10-03-25 FULL SHOW - A New History Textbook, A Movie To See, And A Crime Report

Today we've got a new textbook that teaches about the rich history of the United States properly, a new study on the competency crisis in our criminal justice system, and a screening of a documentary you should all see. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connall Show is sponsored by Bill and Pollock
Accident and Injury Lawyers.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Study and a noisy through ray Bandy Connall keeping sad things. Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome to excuse me, I gotta han Welcome well, Welcome
to a Friday edition of the show altogether.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Now all right, my friends, Oh sorry, didn't mean to
step in the arnold.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I knew there was one more George, maybe even a
couple more yet are we.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Is it over? Dang it? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Anyway, that's the Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him a ram.
I'm Mandy Connell. You can call me Mandy Connell.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Ye, that works.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
We've got so much stuff booked on the show today.
It's going to be a very very busy Friday. And
I did that by design because it's been a long
week this week, a lot of stuff going on on
and off.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
The show, and I figured that I'd let you.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Guys do some work by making it at least in
part and ask me anything. But we also have some
very smart guests coming up. So let's jump on over
to the blog and find out what's over there that
you can find at mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's blog
dot com. Or you can just go to Randy Cromwell
dot com look for the latest post section, then look

(01:56):
for that.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Oh dang it. Yes, okay, geez, you know what I mean?
I know, but I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I can't log in over there because it's not under
my stuff, and then my password doesn't come up because
I'm logged in over here and I'm not logged in
over there, like a four or five step process to
make all this stuff happen. So yeah, it's hard once
you once you get older. I heard a stat this
morning computers and the staff. Yeah, yeah, this is so scary.

(02:23):
I don't know what I'm doing, which is true. So
let me just change that to three and then we're
gonna just do that to there, so in a few
minutes it will say ten three twenty five blog.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Well, we don't have to wait for that to update,
do we.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, you know you oh, just waiting for Okay,
Nancy's not gonna like this one, is she. I mean,
I'm pretty sure Nancy is going to disc.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
He already got lost looking for the right date so
he's pissed, Nancy's pissed.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's gonna be that. It's fits okay. Now go to
the latest post section.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Look for the headline that says ten to three twenty
five blog a new history textbook, a movie to see
in a crime report and click on that, and here
are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Tick tech two A loser anyone listing office, half American,
all with ships and clipment. The scene that's going to
press flinch today on the blog.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Go see deb Flora's movie this weekend, Let's talk about
the competency crisis in Colorado. Finally a textbook that shares
the good, the bad, and the wonderful of Western civilization.
It'sn't ask me anything kind of day. Trump cut clean
energy funds destined for Colorado. Denver is even more dangerous
for pedestrians now prop LLL.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And MM need to go down in flames.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Will Colorado's courts affirmed Tabor. Check the lost Money website today.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
What the Deuce avs the broad more.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Got taxpayer butts Xcel's gonna screw over El Paso.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
And albert Counties.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Where are you the most likely to crash into wildlife?
The slang words. We all want to know news important
to my daughter. Community colleges are the way forward for Aurora.
An armed conflict has been declared. The Grena flotilla will
be deported by Israel. It's about time we took over
cheese and bread. They may have found Amelia Earhart's plane.

(04:19):
Barry Weiss takes over CBS News.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Maybe does Bob's Atomic Burger really have.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
The best burgers in Colorado? Colorado's drink more than other states.
Jimmy Fallon is a smart man. The Taco Bell fifty
K race is this weekend. Baby bassinetts on airplanes are
a real thing. A decade of therapy in one minute.
Elon Musk wins again. The NFL continues games out of
the country. Dave Chappelle whiffs in Saudi Arabia toys. R

(04:46):
US is making a comeback, rumor has it?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
This is ay Rod's house. Those are the headlines on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's stop Hicks right now, stop it stop stop. It's
not taking on Joe. Joe's been absent from the public eye.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And by the way, that's the unedited version of that
noise that was made.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
I guarantee you I will be totally transparent in terms
of my health and all aspects of my health.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
All aspects of his health. Okay, I'm just gonna move
on from that. It doesn't ask me anything. Kind of Friday,
we also have my friend deb Flora coming up at
twelve thirty. She and her husband Jonathan had made a movie.
It is extremely good. Whose children are they? And it's
airing or not airing, but it's being shown this Sunday.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
We're going to talk to her at twelve thirty.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Then former DA and Common Sense Institute fellow John Kelder
is joining me at one. He's written well, he and
another author have written a report about the real impact
of the competency change in Colorado. And then I'm very
excited about our two thirty guests. One of the things
I have always, well, not always, but I believed with

(06:06):
great passion is that, you know, people always like to
say things like, you know, if I could get back
in time, I'd go back in time and I'd.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Kill Baby Hitler.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'd kill Baby Hitler and think about what a different
place to where it would be without Baby Hitler. I
would go back and kill Howard's Inn. If I were
the sort to go back and kill someone, I'm not
going to do that. Even if I could time travel,
because I'd like to think if I could time travel,
I would use my powers for good and personal enrichment.
But murder is generally not speaking good. I mean, you

(06:34):
can make a moral argument, we can have that conversation
at another time. But nonetheless, Alan Geltzo is I think
one of the best writers of history that I've ever read.
He has written prolifically on the Civil War, on Abraham Lincoln.
His books on Abraham Lincoln are outstanding, and they're not boring.

(06:58):
That's the thing they're you know, sometimes when historians write books,
they kind of are speaking to other historians. Alan Gelslow
is talking to you and me and everybody who wants
to pick up his stuff. Well, he and another author
have now gotten together and created a two textbook set
about Western civilization. It's called a History of Western Tradition.

(07:22):
And this is the counterbalance to Howard Zen and his horrific,
absolutely horrific book, The People's History of the United States.
That book has done more harm to these subsequent generations
that have been subjected to it. In college campuses, across
the country. It focuses almost exclusively, in my view, on

(07:45):
everything negative about the United States of America. You want
to know why young people don't feel any allegiance or
any patriotism because they naively believe what Howard Zenn presented
that we are oppressors and everything we have in the
world has been pillaged or plundered from people that deserved
it better than we did.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
That's what Howard Zen teaches.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
I was talking to my daughter.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
My daughter's in APUs government this year, and I told
her at the beginning of this class, I was like,
let me tell you something, lady, this is the moment
I was born for. If you don't bring me this
stuff and we don't talk about this stuff, and you
don't have straight a's in this class, I'm going to
be super super mad because this is the moment, as
your mom, I have been waiting for. So she's in
APUs government and we're starting to talk about things, and

(08:31):
we're starting to have conversations and the notion of American
exceptionalism being wait, let me rephrase that, the notion that
American exceptionalism has to be a highly and only idealized
version of the United States is wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
We have to be able to look at the.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
History of the United States and frankly Western civilization and
take very careful note and learn from the place is
where we got it wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
And one of the things I.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Tell my daughter all the time, I believe that the
Constitution of the United States of America is the greatest
political document in the history of the world and political documents.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Have we lived up to its ideals?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Not always, but those ideals still have an incredible amount
of value, an incredible amount of responsibility, right. I mean,
we've gotten to the point in this country where everybody
wants to talk about their right to something else that
they deserve. I have a right to something that you
have to give me. Right to talk about rights nobody

(09:33):
likes to say, But I have a responsibility too, And
the Constitution requires as Ben Franklin's it was either Ben
Franklin or Thomas Jefferson who said that the Constitution requires
a moral people, or maybe one of the other founding fathers.
Now that I'm saying it, I'm not at all certain
about who said that, but it does. And I could
argue we're not expect we're not especially moral as a

(09:56):
general group right now, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
And and for anyone on the right.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Who's thinking about someone on the left and shaking their head, yeah,
they're not moral. Well, you know what, our president is
not the most moral person in the world. It just isn't.
He's part of my party. He's doing things that I
appreciate and like. But we don't have the moral high
road on a lot of stuff anymore. And I think

(10:24):
that a little humility on both sides of the aisle
would go a long way. Just saying okay five six
six nine. Oh is the Common Spirit Health text line.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
By the way, we're going to talk to Alan.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Gelzo about this new textbook at two thirty. Super excited
about that. Okay, ask me anything. Questions can come in
via the Common Spirit Health text line five sixty six
nine Oh.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
This is for Mandy. Ask her anything.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I struggle with regrets and beat myself up constantly.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Does Mandy ever do that? Thanks? The answer is pretty
much no. And here's why.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
After my first divorce, I've been married twice. Chuck is
my second and last husband, and my first husband. I
honestly can't say a bad thing about my first husband,
except I just should not have been the person married
to him. It was not a match that was good
in the long term for me, and it would have
been a very bad match for him in the long

(11:18):
term based on how my life has gone since we
split up, because he would not enjoy the life that
I have led. I just but he's a great guy.
I don't have anything bad to say about him. But
after the divorce, because I instigated divorce and it was
shocking to him and.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I broke his heart and it was horrible.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And I was seeing a therapist after that, trying to
just get my head on straight a little bit, and
my therapist, I was talking, kind of beating myself up.
I should have done this differently. I should have you know,
I should have said this, or I should have just
really second guessing things. And she leaned over and patted
my knee and said, we'll go back in your time
machine and change.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
It, sugar.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And that phrase, that one phrase has stuck in my
head for over twenty years now because and that's one
of the reasons that I've started reading about stoicism, and
stoicism is simply that the stoicism in a nutshell is
only worry about what you can control.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I mean that's if you just get nothing else from stoicism,
you get that. And when you're talking about looking backwards,
looking backwards is going to make you sad because looking backwards,
we do see what we could have done better, we
do see what we should have done instead. But that's
simply a sign of your growth to where you are now.
So instead of looking back with regret and saying, wow,

(12:32):
I wish I had done that differently back then, well,
you can't go back in your time machine.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
You can't change it.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
So give yourself some credit for having the growth that
lets you look back with regret and then close the
door on those thoughts, learn from it, move on. If
you're looking back, you're going to be sad. If you're
looking forward, you're going to have anxiety. There's a fantastic
video on the blog today that a Rod sent me
and it's ten years of therapy in one minute, and
that's one of the things he talks about, like just

(13:00):
you know, if you if you feel like you need
to atone for something, if you need to apologize for something,
then please do that. No one is going to stop you,
even if it has to be a letter you send
in the mail. Right, no one's going to stop you
from making atonement. But if you can't change it in
any way, shape or form, what's the point other than

(13:21):
I don't know what's the point. So there you go, Mandy.
I'm a regular listener, love your show. I somehow missed
the whole Randy Cromwell reference. Can you please highlight that again?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
When I was on the air in Fort Myers, Florida,
we had a contest where people had to write a
limerick to go to dinner with me at the Melting
Pot down there.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
I still love the Melting Pot.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
So one of the guys that won is a guy
named Steve Morbacker who became a good friend of mine
subsequently after this. And at the dinner, he was sitting
at the table and he said, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
I was working with my brother.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Dale, and I kept saying, today, man, I'm so excited
about meeting Mandy Connall.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Tonight be so great. I'm gonna get to meet Mandy Connell.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
This is so good, And he said after a few hours,
Dale turned around, looked at him and said, who the
hell is Randy Cromwell. And so that has been my
fake name ever since. Although I suck at fake names
because I think you're supposed to keep in private. But
now someone bought Randy Cromwell dot com and redirected it
to the blog. So that is absolutely fantastic, absolutely fantastic.

(14:24):
Let me see here, what are we looking at. Let's
see this is for Mandy ask for anything? Oh wait,
I just did that. There was another one. Hey, Mandy,
ask you anything besides broadcasting? Have you ever been fired
from a job? I have never been fired from a
broadcast job. Knock on wood. I have bucked the trend.

(14:45):
I have always left on my own volition, and I
plan to continue that throughout my career. I believe there's
some sort of plaque or certificate if you make it
through a career in radio and never get fired. I
think I heard that. Maybe I might have said it.
Maybe I'll make my I don't know. You don't know.
I've been fired from one job in my entire life,
and it's because I waited on this table. In Tallahassee, Florida,

(15:10):
I worked in this really cool, funky bar restaurant that
was frequented by both college students and all the people
who worked at the capitol because Tallahassee is a capital
of Florida. So I had waited on the guy who
was the supervisor of elections for Leon County.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
We all knew who he was, and like six of
his friends.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And they ran up a huge tab and I worked
my tail off for them, and they were complete pain.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
The whole time.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
And they left me like a dollar and thirty five cents,
and I walked out into the parking lot and hurled
it at their cars as they drove away. And my
aim was good that night. So they came back in
demanded I be fired. I got fired in front of them.
My manager called me the next morning and said, you're
coming In't I right?

Speaker 5 (15:53):
I was like, okay, so not real.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's the only time I got well for me, it
felt real for the twenty four hours.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
So you didn't have been fired. No, I have one time?
Or is it a laser tag place for three weeks?
Didn't break up a fight, got fired for not breaking
up the fight?

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Shut up? Yep? Wow, yep. They didn't like that I
didn't break up the fight.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I got fired for it. You know what I am?

Speaker 9 (16:19):
I am.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
You don't get paid enough as a laser tag guy.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
No, I don't know what you call those. A laser
tag ranger. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean I think
it's act Is laser ranger.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Wonder if they're still around. I'm gonna look it up anyway,
all right, you guys, let me see here.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Hang on, people are making fun of me for not
having knowing whose song. And you're right, people, you're right.
I'm off my game. I'm not gonna lie, Mandy, how embarrassing.
The Bob's Atomic Burger's website has expired. Yes, I need
to know. I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Text her.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
So Bob's Atomic Burgers in gold was named by some
website doing something the best burger in Colorado? Right, so
I clicked on is it even still open? So you
Golden folks, I want to know if it's even still open.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
I have never had it. I'll be the judge.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, now that I've discovered the Miners Alley Playhouse, which
is just so so so good, it says open, okay,
but the website says expired.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Let's see, yeah, website expired.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Somebody just texted, we need temporary removal of free speech.
What are you kidding? I'm not even answering that. Oh,
it's all from the same Oh a multi text. Okay,
if Anthony can be a rod, you shall now be
called m CON. I kind of like that m CON.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
That sounds a little like a superhero robot.

Speaker 10 (17:53):
M CON.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
That sounds m CON. Yeah, I was gonna say it
sounds pretty evil.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
But a villain.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
It's like CON's villain Con. I am m CON, my
operation m CON when they just kill people.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Yeah, Mandy, ask you anything. If you ever been drunk
or hungover on the air?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yes to both? Oh not not in the recent history.
I worked for a hot talk station in Orlando.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I have seen some things, y'all. Where is Orlando's iHeart Station?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Our iHeart Cluster used to sponsor and a host a
Saint Patrick's Day parade? Holy Merry Mother of Joseph, you guys,
I mean, yeah, yeah, I have. And that's all I'm
going to say about that. Well, no, we have such
tiny SIPs with the wine, yogi, that's not like a thing.

(18:45):
That's kind of fortunately. Now, I will tell you being
hungover on the ear is actually better than being drunk
on the air.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
It will be fun.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh wow, and I just remembered, Yes, the other time
that I can legitimately say that way too much alcohol
was consumed. We did a live show from a Cypress
Hill concert at House of Blues and Orlando, like backstage
hanging out with Cypress Hill boy. Yeah, just so it
was okayed, Like well, I knew the concert was okayed.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Oh I'm not sure all that went on was okay.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let me just say that, but I think the Statute
of Limitations as well passed on that. And I'm not
sure what the punishment for being drunk on the airs
if it's this far away and just not not recently,
well not even remotely.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
I'm just saying, Kaoe's boards his life from the Great
American Beer Fest next week, so.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I think I think a Rod's like threatened me with
a good time. Why don't you all right? When we
get back, my good friend and show partner Deborah Flora
is gonna join me. She is talking about her film
that she made with her her wonderful husband Jonathan whose
children are they? And it's gonna be screened this weekend
by Brief for Angels. We're going to talk about that
and tell you how you can see the movie. Right

(20:03):
after this, someone who's a very familiar voice to you
if you listen to the show when I'm off, and
you should, because Deborah Flora often fills in for me.
And now we're on to talk about Deborah is you
have more jobs than you know, your average hustler out there,
and one of your jobs is filmmaker. Let's put on

(20:23):
your filmmaker hat today. Take off your Douglas County Citizen Marie,
your other hats, just take those off, and then we'll
put on your filmmaker hat. Because your movie that you
did with your wonderful husband Jonathan is going to be
screened this weekend. And I know that this was such
a passion project. Tell everybody about whose children are they.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
Thank you so much, Mandy. Absolutely, Yes, I have multiple
hats and I try not to stack them on top of.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Each other because that just looks weird. It would make
it anyway, it would make you taller. You could use that.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Yes, I need to be as tall as you. That's
the difference between us, one of the only differences.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
But anyway, Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
It's great to be here and share with your audience.
This coming Sunday, they are going to be screening Braver Angels,
which is an amazing organization perfectly time for this period
in our history. It's an organization that is trying to
bridge this divide and bring people together so we can
reason together. And they are going to be hosting a
screening of our documentary Whose Children Are They? It premiered

(21:23):
in theaters nationwide. People can find out about it at
whose Children They dot com and Mandy. This is important
because it's a school board election year and so people
are just looking for answers and this film is not political,
it's informational and so it's going to be screened this Sunday,
October fifth, I believe that is, and it's going to

(21:45):
be at the Parker Task Force. People can go to
my Facebook page Deborah Flora on Facebook, and I've got
the information there. They do ask that you it's free,
but they do ask that you sign in so that
people know who's there. But we invite you. I mean,
it really is time to come and reason together, and
that's why we made the documentary.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, Deborah, you and I have spoken about this
at a different time, but yesterday I had a big
thought right before the show started, and I've expressed to
you that I have concerns that this new talking point
in the school board races and it's in the Doug
Co races and it's now in the.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Jeff Co races. Is it's all about.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Mental health, mental health, mental health, mental health. And I'm
not opposed to making sure that there's supports in schools,
but this feels like another area where the school is
trying to insert themselves into the parent child relationship because ultimately,
parents need to be responsible for checking on their kids'
mental health. And yes, some parents are going to fail
at it, right, but that doesn't mean we assume all

(22:44):
parents will.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
So this movie, even though that's not what this is about.
This is kind of.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Like, I feel like the sort of slow drum beat
that you talk about that it's just getting louder and
louder and louder.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
So how do you describe the film people that have
not seen it?

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Yeah, the film is really by the way, first of all,
want to say it comes from the standpoint that we
are pro teacher, pro parent, pro student. In fact, out
of eighty interviews, the majority, the largest group that we
interview are teachers, and it's really about letting teachers teach,
not be social engineering or pushing political or ideological agendas,

(23:23):
parents being equal partners.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
With the teachers or the good of.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Students, and what you're saying, Mandy about mental health is
one of the key elements. Granted, we all know there's
a mental health crisis amongst our youth. We can have
a longer documentary debate about all the causes for it,
but the reality is you cannot have these mental health
you know, just upsurges of people practicing mental health in

(23:47):
the schools if the parents are not included and involved.
What unfortunately is happening too often in any one of
these issues is parents.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Are shut out.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
And study after study after study has shown children prosper
the more involved and engage the parents are in their
education and their well being. And that's what we want
to get back to. So the documentary covers, you know,
almost everything. It's like chapters academic plummeting that's happening, what
the real cause of safety and security concerns that are

(24:19):
going on, which by the way, hurt teachers of you know,
situation such as a sex education which when you read it,
by the way, Mandy, that is the part of our
documentary that would be our rated or NC seventeen if
it had a rating in the theaters, and we put
a disclaimer upfront saying not appropriate for children. However, this
is what is shown to your children, right, so right,

(24:41):
we copy everything in there. And the reason why is
because different people may have different concerns. But at the
heart of it is what you said, Teachers, parents partnering
together for the good of students is the original golden
triangle of education when we were the best in the world,
and that is being really pushed apart by the teachers

(25:01):
units predominantly that have a different agenda and are not
really finding for things such as teachers pay. I mean,
it exposes this whole situation, and that's what it's about,
and I think there's something for everyone to talk about,
particularly at this point in time with the school board
elections coming up.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Well, I put a link on the blog today at
mandy'sblog dot com where people can go ahead and get
the details and go ahead, and I.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Believe do they have it as a yeah, you can
sign up? I guess.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
So it's kind of like an RSVP, so they know
how many people are coming because that space is not tiny,
but it's not huge, right, correct, Yeah?

Speaker 7 (25:39):
And it's going to be afterwards something that you really
needs to be practiced, braver angels. Afterwards is going to
have people that are attending that would consider themselves to
be left of center or right of center, and we're
going to have a conversation afterwards and practice the very
thing we need so much in this society day, which
is civil discourse. Questions you know, are welcomed afterwards, you know,

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and that's one of the things.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
That we look forward to. So yeah, they do ask
it to register.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, so Debrah like about that conversation. My perspective on this,
and I've thought about this so much, is how do
we how do we go Because because as a mom
who volunteered in her daughter's school and my husband was
in the schools all the time, we had a great
experience with our schools. We had a wonderful experience with
the teachers, wonderful experience, just really positive experience because we

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were involved parents. But it seems to me that teachers
have enough bad experiences with bad parents that they then
paint all parents with that broad brush, and parents have
that one bad experience with that bad teacher, and then
they paint all teachers with that broad brush, and it's

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like we have to start to recognize that we're looking
at outliers, right, We're looking at the extremes, and they're
now being used to justify any sort of animosity on
both sides, and I think that's unfortunate. But ultimately, both
of those motives are how can I protect my kids?

Speaker 7 (27:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Teachers looking at their kids going how can I protect
these kids? But they're looking at every parent as a problem.
And same on the other side. I just I don't
know how to bridge that gap necessarily.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yeah, I think we need to get back to mutual respect.
I mean, first of all, we asked the question whose
children are they? In Western civilization, the very building block,
cornerstone of Western civilization is the idea that parents have
the unique right and responsibility to guide their child's upbringing.
The kids do not belong to the government or the

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state or the society as a whole. That is a
key element respect for the parents' role. Then parents have
respect for teachers who have spent their lives getting a
degree to learn how to teach. But the magic happens
when there's mutual respect between both. The problem that it's
occurred is groups like the teachers' unions that have their

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own agendas getting in the middle of that golden triangle
and kind of exploding it. Or the fact that when
there's been a increase in students and in children of
a certain amount students and excuse me, and of teachers
of a certain amount sins twenty seventeen eighteen percent, administrators
have skyrocketed eighty five percent. It's one of the reasons

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why you know there's less money going into the classroom.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I think every.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Parent wants the teacher of their students to have everything
they need, a good income, resources for the classroom. But
we've got to come together and see why isn't working.
Because everyone knows that it isn't working. We're plummeting in academics.
Violence is up, all kinds of division is up. This
is about identifying it. But it's also, by the way, Mandy,

(28:49):
a really positive outlook towards the end of how this
is changing, with parents waking up, getting re engaged, and
then wanting to let teachers know, Look, we're not the
ones to fear, We're to support you, but we need
to come together and understand that used to be the
teachers and the parents coordinating not all these external groups
with ideologicals agendas that don't work in the classroom.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Debraah Flor is my guest.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
Deb.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Before I let you go, I heard that you had
another side project that is amazing.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Oh you know what.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
I'm so glad you asked, Mandy. Absolutely, I want to
invite everyone to go to another page on Facebook, which
is Mandy ampersand Deb. We're fancy Mandy and Deb. Yes,
I have this online streaming television show with an amazing woman,
Mandy Connell.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I heard she was amazing.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
She's amazing, and you know, with a lot of focus groups,
we decided to mean the group the show Mandy and Deb.
Follow it at Mandy and Deb on Facebook.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
That's an ampersand and.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
We really have so much fun talking about things that
we all care about, but having a good time at
the same time. And it is for brave men. It
is the den of estrogen, but we do really connect
with in a way that.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
They talk about issues. So I invite everybody. It's a
fabulous one. I'm so glad well that you asked. Well
a Rod just called it an estra den, so we've
not now and you could.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I heard that you can also see it on the
Independence Institute's YouTube channel.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
Yes, that's a court. Absolutely, that's where you watch it.
Go to Independence Institute's IV on YouTube and click I subscribe.
It's so much fun and we have a lava lamp.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
That's really other people need to.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I mean everyone should check it out. I appreciate you
so much, my friend. I will see you soon.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
That sounds great.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Thanks so much, man, you have a great day.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Bye. That's step Flora. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
We are now in m CON five. Yes, we are
m CON five. Let me go back to the older
text messages. Uh, Mandy's your former boss, the one who
owns wink TV. Yes, my dad's brother was good friends
with the former owner of Wavy one oh one in
Naples before he died and his wife sold to the
same people who are TV and other radio stations. That

(31:02):
is them. Let's see, this guy's been spamming the text
line and I have to skip over all of them.
Every last one of them didn't get fired. We went
over that. Mandy is Barry Weiss, the guy on Storage Wars. No,
Barry Wise. I am a huge Berry Wise fan. She

(31:24):
is a former journalist for the New York Times. She
left there when she found alternative viewpoints were being censored
her own. She started the Free Press at the Freepress
dot com. I subscribe to it. It's excellent. And now
it appears that she is going to be made editor
in chief of CBS News as paramount. The parent company

(31:44):
of CBS is also buying the Free Press as well,
So this actually gives me hope for CBS News. It
remains to be seen whether or not she will be
empowered to fire anyone who doesn't want to go along
with a culture change.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
One thing the Free Press showed.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Very very clearly is that there are a lot of
quality journalists who just want to be able to do
good journalism. Given the opportunity to do good journalism, there
are a lot of people who want to fill that role.
So it you know, will Berry be able to sort
of get out the rabble rousers. Here's a little fun

(32:23):
fact about your favorite talk show host, if that's me.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
So, when I was in college.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
At the same time I was in college, I worked
for a restaurant called the Mill Bakery, Eatery, and Brewery,
and I was a manager at the Mill. When I
was in college, I was like, you know, not like
the general manager, but the next level manager. And I
was going to a different store and they were having
a lot of problems with theft. And I told the
owner of that story, I said, just put me on
the schedule as a team worker, you know, a crew

(32:50):
worker for a week, and let me find out where
all the bodies are buried. Like day one, one of
the guys at work there was showing me like, you
can take a whole roast meief and just walk out
the back door and they don't even pay attention. So
within four days I knew exactly who was stealing and
who the problems you know, there's the troublemakers were. And
so the first day we had a big staff meeting

(33:10):
and the guy said, and now we've got a new manager,
and go ahead and stand up. And I stood up
and those three guys were like, oh, and we purp
walked him out of the store. And it immediately changed
the entire tenor of the store because you get the
trouble makers out. So Barry Weiss has to be able
to get the troublemakers out, and so that has to
be a thing that happens. But will Paramount truly empower

(33:33):
her Mandy, I'm pro life. Also, Mandy, I would murder
Howard's in sometimes murderer is morally okay?

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Interesting, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Actually, But then I went on after that to say,
but I wouldn't use my time machine for you know,
evil things like murdering people. I would use it to
go back and make bets on future sporting events.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Get really rich, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
After the jerks who texted you yesterday, I got up
this morning and asked mister Google, who was the best
radio host in Colorado? It's at you and there's like
ten exclamation points at the end of that far. We
never did get clarification on that about whether the you
suck with two exclamation points was endearing or they really
do think that I suck. Uh, Mandy, You're gonna completely

(34:18):
ruin CRU's qu'es grade with that class ap government.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Yes, yes, indeedy, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You're Tom Selick fan. Is there a movie where he
plays the villain? What's your favorite Tom movie?

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Hmm?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I actually love Quickly down Under for Tom movies. It's
because he's rugging and kind of dirty. The whole way
through it. He just looks, Oh ah, Tom, I'm gonna
go mul that over for a few minutes. When we
get back, John Kellner with the Common Sense Institute has
co authored a paper about the competency crisis that we

(34:52):
were talking about earlier this week with Barb Kirkmeyer. We're
gonna go through that. This paper's fascinating all that coming
up next.

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Speaker 5 (35:33):
We'll take you right up until three p m. Today. So,
earlier this.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Week we chatted with Barb Kirkmeyer about the passage of
a bill, a House bill last year I believe, yes,
last year that changed the competency of rules around whether
or not someone could be held when found incompetent to
stand trial or unable to participate in their defense.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
And joining me.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Now to talk about the latest study from the great
folks at the Common Sense Institute Colorado is former DA
and now common sense fellow John Kellner, John, welcome back
to the show.

Speaker 8 (36:07):
First of all, hey Mandy, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
So tell me a little bit about this report. And
first of all, why did you guys dig into this?
I mean, obviously it's been a topic, but what was
the thing that made common sense go, you know, we
probably need to check this out.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Yeah, great question. So you know, as District Attorney of
the eighteenth Judicial District, I had begun to see the cracks,
of course in our competency system, and we of course
had issues with many defendants who were either actually incompetent
or claiming to be incompetent and going through this incredibly
long process. I mean that would often take hundreds of

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days in order to get a decision on whether or
not they could go forward with the case. And so
I was already interested in it. But then you start
to see a lot of media attention on some high
profile cases, one of them being Solomon Gallaghan, that's the
man who was alleged too was going to kidnap a gate.

Speaker 12 (37:02):
At a middle school.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
The DA had to dismiss his case after he was
found to be incompetent and not restorable, and then most recently,
you've heard it from your Sheriff Reims and the district
attorney in will County. This man named Visa Ephraim who
was on charges being held in jail for very violent crimes,
including attempted murder, and he was ultimately released and then

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made headlines again when he was just re arrested. So
you know, there's a lot of emphasis, I think in
the media right now, but there's so much more to
this story that we wanted to dive into at the
Common Sense Institute.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
So let's talk about what you found.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Because we've talked about this extensively on the show, and
obviously it's a significant issue that does not necessarily have
one simple answer, as we learned after talking to Barb Kirkmeyer,
just from the way that the.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Law is written. But what did you guys discover.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Give me the kind of nuts and bolts of the
paper for the for the audience, please, yeah, you.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
Bet, And I mean, I'm sure Barb mentioned this. This
is a longstanding problem, right that has grown. I think
it was exacerbated or law. But really what we have
in the state of Colorado is most people don't know
that the state's actually under a consent decree as of
twenty nineteen, where they agreed in federal court that, look,

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we must reduce our wighttimes to get people out of
jail into these incompetency restoration in patient beds. They're supposed
to keep it under twenty eight days of waittime. Instead,
those folks end up staying in jail for on average,
we found one hundred and ten days. That costs our

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state every single year twelve million dollars in fines that
we have to pay because we're not living up to
the consent decree. Now, it would be a whole lot
more if we didn't actually have a cap on that
consent crew. The fines would actually be up to about
sixty five million dollars every year. So if you have
the audience an idea of just how out of step

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the state really is in dealing with the competency issue. Now,
what we also found is, on average, it costs the
state about three hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to
have one additional bed for somebody who is pending or
going through that incompetency restoration process. So to bring the

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state in compliance with that twenty nine team consent, the Creek.
It would cost the state about sixty million dollars every
single year, you know, to just get into the baseline.
And then when you look at some of the latest
information about our state, where we're falling in at usually
the second worst in the country, including Washington DC, when

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it comes to mental health outcomes and treatment, and you know,
issues with diagnoses in our state eight the second worst
in the country. It gives you a sense that, look,
this is not just a today problem, it's future problem.
And the other thing we found, Mandy was.

Speaker 11 (40:10):
That, you know, with the change in the law of
the state is really pushing a lot of the public
safety concerns with people who are incompetent they may be
a danger to themselves or others, and making an emphasis
to put them out of custody basically into a program
called bridges.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
It's a state program that's intended to help get these
people to navigate through getting back to competency. And we've
seen some terrible outcomes from that, including the allegations of
the man who killed two people on the sixteenth Street
Mall in twenty twenty four. He was a person who
was reliefed for outpatient you know, competency treatment and obviously

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didn't follow through on it and the results are catastrophe.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
So I've got former da in Common Sense Institute fellow
John Kelener with me.

Speaker 12 (41:00):
John.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
This is one of those things where I feel like,
is this going to be if the state of Colorado
really wants to address this, because this is part of
a bigger mental health issue that I don't think we
have enough in patient facilities, long term in patient facilities
to deal with some of the issues that we're seeing,
issues that I believe have been significantly exacerbated by the

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sort of open drug use that we have here in Colorado.
Just from personal experience, I know that when you are
a person with any kind of predisposition to schizophrenia and
you start using drugs, that's going to kick that mental
illness into high drive. Not all the time, but it
can happen, and it is happening. So what kind of
investment And I don't even know if you guys looked
at this, what kind of investment would it take on

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the front end, And is it sixty million dollars every
year or are we looking at we need to invest
in facilities in institutionalized care for people that cannot be
in the public and then we have sixty million dollars here.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Do you what I'm asking?

Speaker 12 (42:00):
Yea.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
And first of all, I agree with you wholeheartedly that
the permissive nature around drugs in our state really set
us apart even from states like Utah and their outcomes
with mental health treatment where they don't have this sort
of permissive environment around drugs. And a lot of this
has been brought on, frankly by ourselves, by the voters

(42:21):
and passing laws that have increased access to things like
incredibly high potency marijuana, right and those sorts of things.
I do think contributes significantly to our mental health crisis
in this state. But to answer your question directly, yeah,
sixty million dollars a year is just the starting point

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to meet the baseline of to consent to the reality
is we don't have the physical infrastructure either to deal
with the number of people that actually need to go
through the competency process. So historically we use the Cardo
Mental Health Hospital in Low and the people there are fantastic.

(43:02):
They do incredibly good work. It is very hard though,
for them to recruit and retain top nine right down there.
It's just a difficult spot to have your state's primary
mental health hospital. And one of our recommendations in the
common senses to report is that I really do need
to explore expanding the state hospital capacity with new infrastructure,

(43:25):
right and frankly with the Denver area facility, and we
could leverage a lot of the output of tremendous you know,
healthcare practitioners coming out of Anshoot's medical campus.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, I agree, I mean that in that sense. I
really agree when you think about how much has just
been spent by the City of Denver building or buying
these this housing, and I realized that if we're talking
about secure housing, and you can't just buy a double
tree and switch it into you know, secure housing for
people suffering with severe mental illness. But that investment in

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space is one of those things that in my it
just we have to buckle up, find the money and
make it happen, because we're releasing people who are not
just a danger to themselves, they're a danger to other people.
And I hate to say it, I think we've already
seen it. To your point, you referenced the guy on
the sixteenth Street mall that had been released to outpatient

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care and never followed up and nothing happened. People are
going to get killed, and I don't want to see
that happen. So is there the political will? And this
is just you don't have to answer this question if
you don't want to wait into the politics of it.
But it seems to me that now, because of the
high profile nature of debisa Ephraim and the other gentleman
that you referenced as well, this might be the best

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moment for a big swing on this.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
But is there any sort of bills that you guys
are aware of that would be that big swing.

Speaker 8 (44:49):
I've heard legislators are obviously talking about it. I mean,
you know, to their credit, they're hearing the outcry there
seeing the issue, and I think there's a lot of
at least some interception going on with their self to
the twenty twenty four law, which kind of poured gasoline
on a fire by mandating the automatic dismissal of these
cases rather than potentially re evaluating them. And it also

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didn't provide for when there's an automatic dismissal, a handoff
to the civil competency system where you're talking about civil commitment.
You know, they don't have a cerle case going on,
but they still need treatment because they're a danger to
themselves or others, and instead the result was well in
case dismissed. I guess you're out the door of the jail,

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and you know, best of luck to you. That is
not a way of course that you know, Colorado should
take care of r some of it, the most vulnerable people,
and then putting that public safety risk out on the
community is absolutely unacceptable.

Speaker 12 (45:49):
Is there a political will?

Speaker 8 (45:50):
I mean we're already talking about you know, folks saying
we are underwater with our budget. I think the budget
is significantly increased the year over year to be a
focus on public safety primary responsibility of government in my opinion,
and hopefully we'll see some legislators talk about bold solutions

(46:11):
instead sort of nabbling around the edges of well, let's
add ten twenty more beds. No, we need to have
a bold action plan.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Well, I would say, John, I would think that there's
something in it for both sides here in that Republicans
can sell it to their caucuses because it is a
law and order issue, and Democrats should be able to
sell it to their off you know, their caucuses based
on the humanity issue. They don't want I don't think
democrats want to see these people that we see on
the streets of Denver and other places obviously out of

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their minds with either mental illness or drugs or both.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Like people don't want to see people live that way.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
So I would hope that this would be one issue
where we could get the two sides to really say,
we've to your point, We've got to address this in
a bold way, and hopefully that will happen. We shall see, John,
you guys are doing such great work at the Common
Sense Institute. I put a link to this paper on
my blog today so people can find it there, and
you really should read it because this is a serious,
serious issue, and again, as John just mentioned, I don't

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want Tom nibbling around the edges either.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
Well, thank you, Mandy. I appreciate you bringing attention to
this issue and appreciate you having me on all right, John.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Thanks so much. We'll talk again in the future. I
hope this is a big deal, and it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
That we have hollowed out institutional care for people that
are not going to be able to take care of themselves,
and that's just a reality of our population. Take drug
addiction out of it. You have people on the streets,
and this is not going to encompass every person on
the streets. I had a wonderful common conversation recently. Well

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we'll get into that later. But we have to be
able to have a place for people that are never
going to be attached enough to reality to live safely
and responsibly on their own. That's just always going to
be a thing always. And back when the pharmaceutical industry

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was really getting up the use of antipsychotic drugs and
other mental health drugs that they believed were the answer,
nobody asked the question what if they stopped taking their meds?
And that happens more often than you could imagine, because
someone who's severely mentally ill takes medicine, and the medicine
sort of clarifies things in their mind, brings them back

(48:30):
to reality. They get grounded again, and they start to
think of them as those you know what, I think,
I'm cured. I don't need that medication anymore.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Of course, I'm not talking about every mentally ill person,
but this is the voice of experience talking.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
I talk pretty.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Openly about the fact that I have a pretty significant
strain of severe mental illness. In my family, and no,
not me smarty pants, so I kind of know what
it looks like up close. I'm not going to pretend
to have all the answers, but there's a level of
knowledge in me that maybe other.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
People don't have.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Okay, back to ask me anything going past all of that, Mandy,
how about I tell you anything kind of day all start.
I moved to Colorado in fifteen, shortly thereafter I found
your show. You've kept me informed in laughing pretty much
every day since then. Thank you, Rocky Mountain Bronx Bill.
Thanks Rocky Mountain Brown spil Bronc. Anyway, Mandy asked me anything.

(49:22):
Do you dress your dog up for Halloween? I tried,
but none of the costumes they make are big enough
for jinkies. Jinks went to the vet today. She's in
perfect health except her little teeth. She's got a little
gum infection. Hasn't stopped her from eating anything anyway, But no,

(49:42):
none of the costumes are big enough for jinkies. Mandy,
is there anything that you constantly buy but don't need?
For me, it's wine, whiskey, art and cute things. You know,
I'm not a big shopper at this stage in the
game because I'd rather spend my money on travel. I've
never seen a I didn't want to go on, Well,
maybe one, I'm not I don't want.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
To go to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Did you hear a rod about the Saudi Arabian Comedy
Festival going on right now? I heard about this yesterday.
I was listening a couple days ago. I was listening
to Rick and Kathy Lee on our sister station, The
Fox in the morning, and they were talking about this,
And then today you sent me something about this, And
I've lost a lot of respect for Dave Chappelle over this.

(50:27):
I'm one of those people that Dave Chappelle's comedy sometimes
can feel a little too harsh, like I kind of
feel like I'm.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Going to hell for laughing.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
But I've always admired his ability to just say whatever
he wanted to say and do whatever he wanted to say. Well,
apparently he was very willing to go over to Saudi
Arabia for a giant paycheck and participate in their first
comedy festival. Why I'm mad at him. I'm not mad
at him for taking the paycheck. I'm not mad at

(50:59):
him for to Saudi Arabia. What I'm mad at him
about is that he sat on stage at this comedy
festival in Saudi Arabia and said that it is easier
to talk in Saudi Arabia than it is in America.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Now, why is that so offensive?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Let me give you a little section of the contract
that Dave Chappelle and the other comedians who appeared in
Saudi Arabia signed in order to appear there. This contract
says content restrictions. Artists shall not prepare or perform any
material that may be considered to degrade to fame or

(51:38):
bring into public disrespute, disrepute, contempt, scandal, embarrassment, or ridicule
a the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, including its leadership, public figures,
culture or people, me the Saudi Royal family, legal system,
or government. And see any religion, religious tradition, religious figure,

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or religious practice.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
Sounds free, And Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Is gonna sit on stage in Saudi Arabia and talk
about how it's easier to talk, Well, of course it is.
You know exactly what you can't say or they're gonna
come drag you off the stage and take you to
some weird prison. What I mean, am I wrong to
be mad at the comedians who signed Louis C. K Well,

(52:26):
Luisk's career got sidelined. Maybe he's broke, you know, I
don't know. By the way, a lot of comedians were
offered this deal and they turned it down over the
free speech violations, like as well they should. I wonder
how many of these fools that appeared in re odd
also signed the letter about Jimmy Fall or wait, which one, Kimmel?

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That is how little I care about late night TV.
I genuinely can't remember who's who. I am elderly though,
just passkey run well, you know, yeah, I'm salty about this.
I'm not gonna. I'm not kidding a little bit irritated
about this situation.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Bill Burr Louis C. Game.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Bill Burr's like supposed to be the big freedom of
speech guy, right, Ah.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Gross, just gross.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
I'm gonna I'll get my assistant chat GPT on this
right away to find out who else performed there that
signed any sort of letter. Mandy Connell from the text
line is the OG undercover boss. That's right, That's right, Mandy.
How excited are you for the FSU Miami game? Okay,
I am always excited for Florida State Miami, and I
am always anxious and my stomach hurts a little bit

(53:41):
before it as well. And this year Florida State has
gone great, gangbusters.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
But then that game with Virginia. Oh, the game with Virginia.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
But that game with Virginia could be a good thing
because there was a zero percent chance that they were
gonna kind of go into this week coasting, right.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
So I'm excited I did, but yet also nervous.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Hey, Rod, question for you, have you ever made a
call on a rotary dial phone?

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Museum?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Let me just okay, let me have it back in
the day, right now, Rod, Back when we were kids
at the radio stations used to have a contest.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
You'd have to dial in the number on your rotary
phone and it would go like this, really seven five,
I know they are. It was horrible and you would
pull it back and you push it down trying to
I know twelve. Oh you've never made an actual phone.
I don't have. I think of my grandparents ever had one.

Speaker 12 (54:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Maybe is it required to be a producer before coming
becoming a talk show host? No, but I think every
single person should be a producer.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Oh and us producers love the host the most that
are former producers because we know and they treat you right.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
We know.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
What is the least amount of money you made or
worked for? My first job, I made two fifty an hour? Oh,
teaching gymnastics. I was fourteen years old. I mean I
babysat before that. I don't remember what my babysitting wages were.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Seven something. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
My next job, where I was like sixteen and driving
myself to work, was like three point thirty five because
that's what minimum wage was.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
But media though twenty six thousand year.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
My lowest actual professional job. When I first became a
flight attendant, I made fourteen thousand, eight hundred and sixty
three dollars a year, and they sent me to Los
Angeles in nineteen ninety one making fourteen thousand, eight hundred
and sixty three dollars a year.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
I just did the math. Yeah, did you do it?
Yearly salary? I think divide by nineteen twenty right for
your hourly?

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (55:47):
Yeah, reporter anchor on camera thirteen dollars an hours when
I made my first.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Job out of college. That is true, bro? Yeah, God yeah,
woof yeah. Lord see.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Uh, Mandy, is a Rod? Glad that his last name
isn't Holcombe?

Speaker 6 (56:08):
It was? It was?

Speaker 5 (56:09):
It was, no clue.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
No, I don't know, Mandy, your brown brother from another mother.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Here?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Does a Rod speak Spaniol?

Speaker 5 (56:16):
Or understand? Are you getting better?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah, I mean I'm trying. I read it perfectly.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
I sound perfect when I read Spanish, and I know
what I'm saying a good chunk of the time.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Yeah, but you know it's hard to speak it. I try,
I do try.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I do get by hobbleay spanol ceavoo play, Mandy, let's
see here. The voice of the biome commercial on iHeart
sounds like your husband's voice.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Is it, Schuck? No, it is not, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Do you listen to iHeart media radio stations exclusively? No,
I do listen to The Mountain on occasion. I switch
between the Fox and the Mountain because I'm a classic
rock person. So, but I think that's the only non
iHeart station I listened to with any regularity. Mandy, let
me see here, a Rod, here's one for you. This

(57:15):
one says, my daughter's always cold. I stood her in
the corner. It's always ninety degrees.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Oh boy, Yeah, good. Yeah, good, Yeah. I got a
good one today. Oh yeah yeah, looking forward to it.
Tune in at two.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Uh, Mandy, could you ask a Rod to turn down
his mic at the Colorado Speedway? Ah feels like he's
screaming at us the whole time. Tremendous job though, otherwise.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Thank you? And uh no, Hi Mandy.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
A Jinx Halloween costume suggestion Nana from Peter Pan Nana
cap and apron all human size. That's a good idea,
Hi Mandy, it's Noah A right bearback in Rodeo, I
didn't make the cut for the national Finals Rodeo in Vegas,
and I'm so disappoint it and angry with myself. Has
Mandy or a Rod ever been angry for not achieving
a goal? I drank in excess last night and drunk

(58:08):
shop the Amazon and Wrangler dot com and realize today
that was stupid. Okay, be mad at your such a ride,
Yeah exactly what did you buy? But be mad at
yourself for a little bit, But then look back and
figure out where your weaknesses were, what you need to
improve on, and use that anger as a fire in
your belly to go back and do it better. You know,
every failure is an opportunity to grow and become better.

(58:31):
Failure only matters if you let it beat you. Everybody
fails at something, I mean other than me.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Just kidding.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I mean, I haven't failed in a while. I'm just
saying I have failed. That's where you get the most
growth in life. Failure is an opportunity. Failure is a
chance to be a better person on the other side
of it.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
So be mad at yourself.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I always give myself twenty four hours to pout, you
know what I mean. It's like, oh, be mad at myself,
and usually I wear out. I get tired of being
mad at myself. After that, I'm just like.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Eh, you know, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
And then I go back and I evaluate what I
did wrong, what I did right, what I should have
done better next time, and you move on.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
And that's how life is. You got this, But what
did you drunk shop for last night? Mandy?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
What's the over under on combined murders assaults that occurred
during the next four days of the sixteenth Street Mall
Festival and they spelled Mall maul. I'm guessing very very
small because there's going to be a massive police pre
presence out there. Mandy ever have a disastrous experience in
a hurricane while living in Florida, like in the actual hurricane. No,

(59:36):
because I'm smart enough to stay inside after the hurricane.
I mean, my power was out for seven days in
August in Fort Myers. So that was awesome, made even
more awesome by the fact that the neighbors across.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
The street for me, their power went on after three days.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
You just look across the dark street from your side
at all their shiny lighting and showers with heat and dah. Anyway, Yeah,
I'm not gonna ask that question for a rod about
the beehive, I'm gonna skip that. Mandy, is the Rhyin

(01:00:19):
River trip completely filled? Oh contra, my friend. The next
Mandy Connell Adventure, which you can find at Mandy Coonnell
trip dot com, we just have them add more cabins
see question.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, We're not gonna ask that question on
the air though, txture. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
So we have actually not done the on sale for
the next Mandy Connell Adventure that's coming up in the
next few weeks, but we had almost filled it just
with people who had gone on prior trips, which is
great news because the people that I've already signed up
are some of my favorites, and some awesome people are
gonna be on this trip and it is going to
be spectacular. We're starting in Switzerland and we get to

(01:01:04):
we're flying into Zurich, but then we're gonna go to Lucerne,
which is just gorgeous, stay over the night there. Then
we're gonna go to Basil's, Switzerland. There we're gonna hop
on this super fancy riverboat and we're gonna sail right
through to Amsterdam. And I cannot wait. It's October of
twenty twenty six. Go ahead and go to Mandyconnell trip
dot com, Mandy Connell trip dot com and go ahead,

(01:01:25):
and uh, you know, sign up because it's gonna be amazing, amazing.
The Holcombe con comment was hilarious. Anthony Rodriguez equals a
rod Anthony Holcom. I don't I don't understand any of that.
Who is Anthony Holcomb? No clue, I don't know what

(01:01:47):
that is anyway, Mandy, what's the deepest regret you've ever
had in your voting history? I don't know if I've
had deep regret in my voting.

Speaker 12 (01:01:59):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That would not be something I would give a second
thought to until I was getting ready to vote again.
And if I voted for somebody was an idiot, did
I know they were an idiot? And I had to
vote for them anyway? Was that the right choice? I'm
not big on regrets, I guess, Mandy. Could you do
a shout out to all the farmers in Huma County
As a matter of fact, I can, hey y'all out

(01:02:22):
there in Uma County and your big tractors and trucks
and whatnot.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Keep up the good work. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
What was the worst time in your life and how
did you overcome it? I have two, One of which
was when my father was ill for fourteen months. He
had a major stroke, and the fourteen months between the
stroke and when he died was horrible, and that just
was a matter of getting through it. There was not
any way to overcome that. That was just getting through it.

(01:02:50):
And then the second time was when I had a
job situation turned very very south and I was working
as a producer for a host that got really, really
nasty and made my life absolutely miserable, miserable, and that
deeply affected me for a long time. But again going

(01:03:11):
back to using it as fuel for your fire. I
was determined at that point to prove my worth for
no other reason than just to be able to shove
it down that guy's throat. So I'm big on like vengeance.
I mean, think of me like I respond to adversity,
kind of like John Wick right, Like I'm good, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Chill, leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
But then once you come at me, and once you
make me really mad, I don't get over If I'm
really really mad, I don't get over.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
It very well. But I hardly ever get really really mad.
Hardly ever. I mean you can ask Juck.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
He's married to me, and he's probably seen me really
really mad maybe five times in our entire marriage.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
And one time I crushed his cell phone with my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
That was kind of I'm not gonna lie. I was
mad because I had to pay to replace it, but.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
It still kind of cool. Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Halloween costumes for animals are why they hate us? Yeah, yeah, Mandy.
What's the age range of the group who vacations with you.
I would say they are I'm fifty six for the
most part, they are my age or older. It really
is dependent on the trip the people that I already
know that are going on this trip are probably i'd

(01:04:29):
say sixties in that range, some a little bit older.
But you have to understand the people that go on
this trip usually, even if they're a little bit older,
are very active and they're not like old people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
I'm just trying to be honest. We usually have a
few people that are.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Younger than that and their forties somewhere around there, but
we don't generally have any younger people than that, partly
because of the price point. It's not an inexpensive trip,
but it is so luxurious it is worth every single
but and also like kids, because we're going in October,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Mandy ever considered going brunette even for a little bit,
so weird that you're asking this question. Just today I
was like, should I tie my hair brown? And then
I was like, nope, because I have been and it
just makes me look old, I think, and exactly like
my sister.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Day two federal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Shutdown in the books, and we now found out that
Donald Trump canceled some green energy projects, some of which
were going to be happening here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
So first of all, he hey, nine or Nina.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
But I saw this one section of the Fox thirty
one story that I linked to, and I want to
read you the response by the Democrats, or excuse me,
the Colorado Energy Office.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Same thing. They sent.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Five million dollars were affected in grants, and this is
how they started their response. Colorado is proud to lead
the nation in clean energy, and consumers in our state
continue to choose low cost renewable energy. And I'm gonna
stop there because whatever happens after that, because they're already lying.
I went to actually, I asked my assistant chat GPT.

(01:06:17):
Chat GPT has changed my life in terms of being
able to research something complex so easily it's not even funny.
I asked chat GPT to compare energy prices in dollars
from countries around the world where green energy was a
large port part of their energy production. Okay, just very simple,

(01:06:39):
and they even gave me a handy chart with retail
energy prices for household energy prices or industrial energy prices,
and they have also the cost per kilowatt hour in
the US dollars. Now, green energy in Germany has been
a thing. They lean all in.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
They were all excited. We're going to be all green
all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So let me just tell you first what energy costs
on average in the United States. The household number in
the US is seventeen cents per kilowatt hour.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
Seventeen cents. Remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Now in the UK they've also gone all in on
green energy, not as much as Germany has, but pretty
much all in. So what do you think they're paying
per kilowatt hour in Germany and the UK? In US
dollars per kilowatt hour? Take a guess, Ayrod, do you
want to take a guess?

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
How many cents? As like, I'm out, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
So reminding you we in the United States of America
we pay seventeen cents. In the UK they pay forty
five cents per kilo what hour, so roughly three times
what we pay in the US. And in Germany they
pay forty six cents. So green energy is not cheap energy.

(01:07:54):
It is not cheaper. It is not going to be
cheaper anytime in the near future. And we need to
put to bed the lie that green energy is in
any way, shape or form less expensive than what we've
got here in the United States of America, because it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
I mean, we can look around. We don't have to guess.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
It's been clearly demonstrated with these numbers, So I guess
I don't know. Maybe the Energy Office doesn't have access
to chat GPT.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
I have no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Idea, Mandy, are there singles on the River Trip. I'm
a widow that would like to travel. We do have some,
and I mean very very few singles, especially on this ship.
River cruises do not have favorable conditions for single people,
and they don't have very many cabins that they would
count as that, so it's a little tougher. But you

(01:08:42):
can go to Mandy connell trip dot com and call
Cruisin Tour and they will answer all of the questions
that you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Might have about that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Mandy, I had a meeting with someone who is very
wealthy and his teeth look terrible. I judge people on teeth,
shoes and boots and fingernails. Am I an a hole?
If you have a private jet, you ought to have
good teeth. People have different priorities. Now, I I so
much believe in good teeth that I, at the age

(01:09:10):
of fifty six, currently have in a liner system that
I'm straightening my teeth with. So I get it, I
really do. I think your smiles kind of your calling card.
But that also, to me says that this is a
man who has spent his time and energy on a
lot of stuff other than taking care of himself, Because
taking care of your teeth is a pretty basic taking

(01:09:30):
care of yourself thing, you know. But I get you,
I hear you. I mean everybody has things that they
they're judging about it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
You say, teeth, just teeth, Okay, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Have a list of no, no, no, no no, he
said he judged people on teeth, shoes and boots, and fingernails.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
Fingernails, Yes, because fingernails.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
You should be looking at your fingernails all the time,
you know what I'm saying, like the just.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
Like the length of them, or just like the niceness
of them both, I think cleanly, probably because dirty fingernails
creep me out too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Oh yeah, let's see here. My brunette wife went red
a few years ago. I willingly gave her my soul,
and she had more fun than any blonde. I have
had my hair every single color that you can possibly
think of. Green, yes, uh, yes, well black blue, like

(01:10:23):
it's so so black that it had.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
A blue que to it. I look like a ninety
year old Italian woman that it was awful. Neon orange, No,
never orange? OK, not every color.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
I have had pink, I've had purple, I've had full pink.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Yes, I've had red. I've had red. Was horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
I look again, just old white, yeah, white, dumb platinum blonde,
platinum blonde, like really really really blonde. I know I
was ignoring it. We old people rise above Mandy. Let's
keep it going. Shout out to all the hard work
in farmers in Morgan County. Absolutely, Hey, yeah, farmers in

(01:11:01):
Morgan County, keep up the good work. Obama withheld fifty
three million from Wyoming and mineral royalties. Don't feel bad. Oh,
I don't feel bad, not at all. Sounds like your
texter wants to find a room meet mail. I don't
know which sext you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Some one who was asking me about your trip. Oh yeah, no,
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I seriously had thought about this, But I also don't
want to be responsible if two people end up hating
themselves on day three of the trip.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
But if anything ever happened to chuck my sole goal,
my main goal would be to find my traveling buddy,
someone that I enjoyed traveling with. My mom had one
in her friend Jenny, and so they traveled a lot together.
I want to find a traveling buddy, because right now
Chuck is my traveling buddy. I can't imagine traveling with
anybody else. But as long as they don't snore as
out as he does, we could talk.

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Three many Connell Key you, sad Base, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome
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Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
And boy, I have a ton of stuff on the
blog today that we're just not going to get to
because I'm having too much fun answering your stupid questions.
As part of Ask Me Anything you can text us
on the Common Spirit Health text line, coming up at
two thirty, we are going to talk to Alan Guelzo.
He is a phenomenal historian who has written so many
books on the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln that are

(01:12:41):
just incredible, and now he and a co writer have
created a new book on Western civilization and I am
super excited about it, super excited about it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
It's called the Golden Thread.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
A history of the Western tradition, and we're going to
talk to Alan Welso at two thirty about that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
So get your questions in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Now here's an interesting question, and I think I'm gonna
answer it on the air because I think it's kind
of funny. And this just gives you an idea of
the questions that I get that I normally don't read
on the air.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Let's see here, Mandy, Oh, hang on, I'm just gonna
go up there and do this to the follow up,
let me do that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
The first question was, uh, Mandy, ever considered going to
a male strip club or a fighter fighters calendar event?
And straight up, you guys, have you seen the way
women act at those things? They are out of control,
like rabbit animals. I don't want to be a part
of that. I mean men, at least men are dignified

(01:13:35):
in a strip club as they sit there and watch,
you know, naked women gesticulate, women act like crazy people.
It's insane, absolutely insane. Shout out to Denver twoh eight
pipe fitters. Shut up, pipefitters, what up?

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Uh, a Rod one for you, my friend Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
What are a Rod's thoughts on the Avs players wearing
Rams jerseys last night? Lots of reactions from Broncos fans. Hey, Rod,
let me feel this question initially, and I'll let you
pick up the ball and run with it after that.
Today I am wearing a Denver Broncos shirt. You know why,
just to demonstrate to the ABS how easy it is
to show team spirit to the team that you share

(01:14:18):
a city with, for God's sake, And we all know
that they were just sucking up to the Cronkys.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
And hey, no hate for the Kronkis. You guys own
a bunch of stuff, But what just a stupid thing
to do? I have to imagine.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
And for those that didn't see, yes, the entire Avalanche
team was at the Rams Niners game at so FI yesterday.
And for those that live under a rock and or
don't know, Kronky owns the Avs, Nuggets, Rams, and Rapids.
I think that's all of them. I believe, I don't know.
And a lot of people are thinking, was this a

(01:14:53):
mandated thing by the Cronkys to like have them do it?
Because they were all customized jerseys, their name on the back,
all of them. All of them were wearing them, not
one odd one out.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
But man, oh man, oh man, what a bad optics.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
Yeah, they literally rely are here in Broncos country.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
It's stupid, stupid ass.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Like the Denver Broncos players after like visiting the Raiders
in Vegas going to a Golden Knights game wearing Golden
Knight's gear.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
If like the owners were the same.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
I just you have to look and go, yeah, we
own both teams, but they aren't in that backyard. It
doesn't make any sense. It's not in the same city.
It's not It's weird. And they had a lot of backlash,
and I get it, I totally get it. Why but man,
why no, No, this is Broncos country. But the Avs

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even allowed to go to Broncos games.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Now, well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
I thought that was rude because the Broncos players on
social media are always supporting the Avs players. The AVS
players are always supporting the Broncos players. This felt like
it was forced on them my ownership. It really made
a bad choice. I'm just gonna say it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
Not good look. Nope, not a good look At all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Does Mandy or a Rod keep a radio at their
house on day and night set to KOA so they
can monitor the KOA signals to ensure that they are
on the air.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
No, that's Dave Tepper's job.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
We are very often on the Google home at home,
though sometimes so sometimes Poppy, I think she's listening to
music today.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Hi Poppy? Anyway, what reason did you do pink? Were
you in a play?

Speaker 12 (01:16:32):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
I was young and bored and so I dyed my
hair pink. I've been blonde for three years? Yeah, did
you do tips?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
The whole thing?

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
Oh god, that was probably a nightmare. Three week sixth grade.
Definitely not a good decision.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
No, no, no, no no, but everybody has to have those,
those bad choices. Blonde? Yeah, not good? Woof, not good
at all? Mandy? Can I request the Chicken Dance song?

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
And a video of a Rod and Mandy doing the
Chicken dance posted to KOA? Socials have a good weekend,
Go Broncos, go pokes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Why why no no no no no no no no no.

Speaker 6 (01:17:07):
No, that's all you get anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Mandy' Sin's fall is finally showing up this weekend. What's
on the menu? Well, I don't know yet. We got
big goings on. My daughter's got homecoming this weekend, so
lots of things happening.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Last races at CE and es tomorrow. If you guys
want to come on down. Okay, Rod will not turn
down his microphone. There you go. I mean that person.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Sometimes I gotta like yell into it because it doesn't
like go out enough and sometimes it cuts out.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
So I was just being smart.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
You know what, Mandy, are you still close to any
of your high school friends?

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Do you still go to reunions?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
As a matter of fact, my high school friends are
planning our fortieth class reunion. Holy crap, Holy crap. I
don't even know how that happened. But that's gonna be
in twenty twenty seven. We're just gonna do a cruise
out of Florida like a little four day and it's
gonna be fun.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
And I'm looking forward to her. What was that one
month until our cruise? I know, aren't you so excited?
Third one? Already so excited? Mandy?

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
I want to use AI to turn a picture of
my wife into a pin up girl? What free AI
do you recommend? I do not know the best AI
chat will do some things. But Chat also has plugins.
When you go to chat GPT on your desktop, when
you use it like on your desktop, they have a
little thing of of chat plugins on the left hand side,

(01:18:30):
and one of those is an image generator. And it's
pretty dang good. I mean it's it's pretty dang good.
So I would start there, and I think you can
get maybe three images, probably for free in per twenty
four hour period. You don't have to do anything else, correct,
So there you go. Hey, Mandy, have you heard about
the divorce Barbie doll? It comes with half of Ken's stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Hamm, I think, uh, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Republican hostage accuser Schumer just made a public statement that
started with unless all demands a met Unless what Chuck?

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
What you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Chuck?

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
We'll see, Chuck.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
I find this kind of funny because ultimately the Democrats
are hurting their own demographic more than anyone else. Coming
up in just a few minutes, we're gonna talk to
Alan Gualtso about a new textbook that will possibly be
the great antidote to the Howard Zen trash that has
hurt our country. More on that in the moment. Let
me get back to Sam ask me any things really quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I'm close to my high school friends, but I never
went to any of the reunions. I love high school
reunions partially because I don't live in my hometown anymore,
and it's nice to see everybody in catch up and
see how everybody turned out, hear about grandkids and all
that good stuff. But you know who doesn't go to
my high school reunions, the people who stayed in the town.
It's all people from out of town. Sucks. That sucks, Mandy.

(01:19:55):
You say, Chuck is big. I'm six seven. How big
is he? And does he enjoy cruises? My wife wants
to go and I don't. I already responded. Check is six',
four but he's pushing three. Hundred he's just a big.
Person he feels a lot bigger THAN i think he actually.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Is and that man loves a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
CRUISE i love. Cruising he loves it five times more
THAN i. Do he loves a, cruise river, cruise ocean.
Cruise he loves being on a.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Boat, CHIP i should, Say, Chip and SO i would
strongly advise sir that you go on a cruise with,
us because river cruising is totally different than ocean, cruising
and it's a whole different experience AND i love.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
IT i love them. Both they should come with. Us
Mandy Connell tripp dot. Com, mandy what are your thoughts
On Candas? OWENS i Think Candice owens lost her way
and everything she does to, me to me now feels
like a. GRIFT i, mean what what is with her
and the First lady Of?

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
France, like stop this rabbit Hole Charlie kirk. Assassination oh,
man it is the deepest rabbit hole's eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
And everything everything feels like a grift that she does
now AND i just cannot.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Nuts, yep, yep it's all over my. TikTok it's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Crazy it, Is it is. CRAZY i just lost, it.
Yep and that's exactly HOW i feel about.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
It, Uh, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
What movie OR tv show cry made you cry the?
Most that is a tie for first. Place the Original
Color purple With Whoopi goldberg and the Movie Steel Magnolia's
Steel magnolia is to this, day the whole scene With
Sally field in the cemetery guts me every single, time

(01:21:39):
every single.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Time so there you, Go, Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
MANDY i went to The adam And eves smut shop
In cheyenne and saw SOMEONE i know as that ever
happened To mandy Or. Amiable wait a, minute no it,
hasn't it has. Not BUT i gotta tell, YOU i,
mean what do you do with? That you may as
well just kind of own, it, RIGHT i had no
idea you were a.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
FREAK i mean you. Can't you, can't really you. CAN'T
i MEAN i guess you could dive down one of
the aisles well to buy each Other's so what are
you guys? INTO i see you got something? There what
you got? There?

Speaker 12 (01:22:20):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Wow oh it's a shopping.

Speaker 8 (01:22:22):
Cart.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Yeah, Anyway, mandy WHEN koa plays the cars for kids
during the day and during your, show does it mean
you need more?

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
Sponsors? Like is it a filler non revenue? Spot? Oh,
no trust, me we make them pay for.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
That that would not air on my. Show it would
not air ever in my show if it was up to,
me and that commercial would never be chosen as pillar ever, ever,
ever ever. MORE i would guarantee you that, nationwide that
is the most complained about commercial in the. COUNTRY i
bet YOU i could back that. UP i bet YOU

(01:22:54):
i could call radio friends and back that, up but
it's talked. About, yep there you, Go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Mandy my last and only cruise thirty one years.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
AGO i have inner ear issues AND i got the
prescription patch BEFORE i. Went worked great on the cruise
until we got back to land AND i took it
off sick for days and didn't even get to Enjoy Epcot.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
Center.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Shere would like to go on another, cruise love your,
show any? Advice go on a river. Cruise those boats
are sailing on flat. Water you do not even feel
the motion at.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
All or, bigger bigger cruise even though even, those if
you if you get into some, weather you get that
still slight.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Rocking and for somebody with bad inner ear, issues any
of that can be and you don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
What's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
To like on a river, cruise it's always flat. Always
you don't ever have any sort of wake at.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
All, yeah the last one we felt it but didn't
bother the rest of.

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah if you have really bad inner ear, issues, though
it can be a. Problem, uh just chuck wear a Seapap,
no he actually doesn't have sleep. APNEA i tease him about.
Story he really doesn't snore a loud at. All he's
sort of like on occasional like, snuffle but he does
not store at all high school. REUNIONS i hated those
people in high. School why DO i want to see them?

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Amen graduated in eighty. Six have never.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Gone you, GUYS i got to tell, you and this
is going to make some of you, go, Oh, MANDY
i had no idea you were that. PERSON i loved high.
SCHOOL i did everything in my high. School everything like
you name, IT i did.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
IT i loved.

Speaker 11 (01:24:19):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
NOW i didn't peak in high, school BUT i have
very fond memories of high, school AND i enjoy going
back and seeing how everyone's. DOING i like to celebrate
other people's sort, of you, know great lives kind of. Thing, Anyway,
mandy earlier in the, show you mentioned it to study
or therapy term for not worrying about the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
Past what was. IT i don't know if it's a therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Term but it's, like if you are feeling if you're looking,
backwards you're feeling, sad if you're living in the, future
you're feeling. Anxious if you want to feel, calm live
in the. Present it's. THAT i, mean it's that. Simple
learn from your mistakes and then move. On that's HOW
i go through. Life Alan gueltso joining us next to
talk about a new textbook that talks About western civilization

(01:25:02):
the way it should. Be i'm now going to take
this last segment to make us all a wee bit
smarter because we are talking to a noted historian and
an author of so many great books About Abraham lincoln
in The Civil.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
War Alan gueltso is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
You're kind of a historical rock star in the sense
THAT i feel like you're probably one of the most
accessible history. Writers when you write your, BOOKS i feel
like you're writing for people like, me not other. Historians
is that? Accurate is that how you approach.

Speaker 10 (01:25:29):
IT i don't know if that's conscious on my, part
BUT i do want to communicate with, people AND i
want people across the board is whether they are professional
history people like, myself or whether they're just ordinary folks
who are interested in certain questions at certain times and certain.
PEOPLE i want to be able to communicate with them
and give them a sense where have we come? From

(01:25:52):
how has our past shaped our?

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Present, well you have just dived right in To western
civilization with a new couple of. TEXTBOOKS a companion textbooks
Called The Golden, thread a history of The western, Tradition
AND i want to start by referencing a man THAT
i don't care for AND i think has done so
much considerable damage to the, country and that Is Howard

(01:26:15):
Zen's The People's history of The United. STATES i think
it's Anti. American it focus on everything. Negative and you
were just sharing with me off the air that it's
been widely spread and widely used because someone's paying to spread.
It but is The Golden thread sort of the counterbalance to,
that because it seems as if from WHAT i read

(01:26:36):
this morning that these textbooks focus on not just the
bad parts but also the brilliant parts Of western, civilization
of WHICH i think there are.

Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
Many, WELL i don't know if these books are in
some way a direct response To Howard. Zen for one,
Thing zen's work was really about strictly About american, history
Whereas The Golden thread That i've gone into writing in
conjunction with my friend of many, Decades Jim, hankins this

(01:27:06):
is a history Of western, civilization which is much. Broader
american history has a role to, play especially in volume,
two but it's not About american history per, Se so
it's doing SOMETHING i think different from.

Speaker 12 (01:27:19):
What The Zen Education project does About american.

Speaker 10 (01:27:22):
History but in, general The Zen Education project can be very,
negative whereas What hankins AND i want to do is to,
say there is, negative but there's also.

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
Positive let's not forget the.

Speaker 10 (01:27:34):
Positive let's take them, both because we're remembering the human
beings are a mixture of what.

Speaker 12 (01:27:40):
Is positive and.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
Negative the Great Alexander Soljian netson once said that good
and evil run through every human. Heart and what we
have tried to do in The Golden thread is to
SHOW i, think in a large, measure the truth of
that in century after century of this thing we Call western, civilization,

(01:28:01):
or as our title, says The western.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Tradition so let's start with the things that Are what
is the? Thread is there a single thread that is
pulled Through western civilization that has kept us on a
relatively not a straight line, path of, course but a
path that has always seemed to lean towards self? DETERMINATION
i guess not until The United. States really what makes?

Speaker 10 (01:28:27):
WELL i think that, yes there is a there is
a golden, thread and a golden thread That hankins AND
i start with The Battled marathon at the very beginning
Of volume, one and which we take through these two
volumes all the way to nineteen ninety.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
One we took nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 10 (01:28:42):
As our cutof, date because, well we're writing, history not current.
Events there may, BE i don't know, What there may
be perhaps ten years down the, line a new edition
of volume two that will take things a little bit
further beyond. That but the golden thread that runs through
both volumes is really built around several elements that we
think are unique to The western. Tradition first of, all

(01:29:05):
there's the centrality of the written. Word The western tradition
has really depended upon. Writing it's not an oral. Tradition
it's not a not a tribal. Collection it is the written,
word and the authority of. Writing the influence of writing
and reading has been extremely important AND i think is

(01:29:26):
unique to what we do in The.

Speaker 12 (01:29:28):
West, also we in.

Speaker 10 (01:29:30):
The west have tremendous respect for the pursuit of truth
in science and knowledge and the accumulation of knowledge in.
Education we have a profound respect for government and the
rule of, law and within that impulse for freedom in,
speaking freedom and, commerce freedom in. Association there's also in

(01:29:53):
This western tradition a beautiful strain of art and, music
because there's a profound belief that beauty is, ennobling that
beauty is kin to.

Speaker 12 (01:30:07):
Truth and along with that.

Speaker 10 (01:30:09):
There's a great pursuit of faith and spirituality based on
monotheism in The western.

Speaker 12 (01:30:16):
Tradition above, all there's.

Speaker 10 (01:30:17):
Resilience The western tradition has a tremendous capacity for self.
Criticism it can be home to what we sometimes like
to call the argument for the sake of. Heaven and
it's that capacity for self criticism that has helped us
at times when The western tradition has involved people doing

(01:30:38):
serious transgressions of what is right and turning things to
what is, wrong we've had the capacity for self criticizing
and turning it. Back and one of the greatest examples
THAT i tried to develop in the second volume is
the turn against.

Speaker 12 (01:30:53):
Slavery to a large.

Speaker 10 (01:30:55):
Degree for, centuries people simply accepted slavery as a normal,
condition and then there comes a point where we examine
ourselves and we, say, no this is. Wrong it is
not right for people to own other, people to own their,
labor to steal the fruit of their. Labor that capacity
for self criticism and renewal is one of the most

(01:31:16):
remarkable examples of resilience that you can, find AND i
think is a remarkable attribute of The western. Tradition so
those are the things that make up what we call
this golden.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Thread where have we lost our way In western? Civilization
what are some of the touch? Points slavery obviously is
a great. One we lost our way by allowing, it
but then we righted the. Ship where are other examples
of where we have lost our way and made our way?
Back AND i asked that for a specific reason That
i'll talk to with my listeners later about current.

Speaker 10 (01:31:49):
Events we've lost our way or almost completely lost our
way to a number of. Points we almost completely lost
the way of The western tradition after the fall Of,
rome when it was overrun by the barbarians and all
the riches Of greek And roman, literature much of it was. Lost,
now some of it was recovered in later, times but some.

Speaker 12 (01:32:12):
Of it never.

Speaker 10 (01:32:13):
Was so there was a moment there when we only got,
by as the Great Kenneth clark once, said by the
skin of our. Teeth another moment like, this when it
appeared like we were going to lose. Everything was in
the wake of The Great plague of the fourteenth, century
when the population Of europe was as much as a

(01:32:38):
third of the entire population Of europe died as a
result of The Bubonic. Plague we could have lost civilization
there as, well and we could have lost it at
the end of The Thirty Years war of the seventeenth.
Century these were all of them great, catastrophes and yet
at each, moment while there were whales of despair over

(01:33:00):
what was going to, happen at each, moment The.

Speaker 9 (01:33:03):
Western tradition learned its lessons and stood up. Again AND
i think we would like to see The Golden thread
as part of a similar moment in our own. Times
and that's what the title.

Speaker 10 (01:33:16):
Means it's about finding that golden thread and finding it
back to the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Light the REASON i asked that specifically is obviously we're
having a period of tremendous turmoil in The United states
Of america right. Now we're very, polarized AND i ALWAYS
i get concerned alan that we've gone too far and
that we can't pull ourselves back from the. Edge what
was it or what is it about the people participating
in The western tradition that they have or believe in

(01:33:44):
or is there one single thing that makes us able
to pull ourselves out when perhaps others have not been
able To if that makes.

Speaker 10 (01:33:53):
Sense, well the crisis that we face right now really
comes from a couple of. Sources one is it's a
kind of, indifference not so much a, hostility but an
indifference because we know, now given the speed of world,
communication we know how big the world, is and we
feel that we should accommodate.

Speaker 12 (01:34:13):
It we should do.

Speaker 10 (01:34:13):
Other parts of the, world other civilizations. Justice, sometimes, though
the indifference to civilization is also because and this is
particularly true of certain political, convictions there's the idea that
civilization is really just, superstructure it's just false. Consciousness all
real movement is about economics or about the acquisition of.

(01:34:36):
Power and then there are some people who really are
openly hostile so The western, tradition because they blame it
for a host of, evils whether it's, genocide whether it's,
colonialism whether it's. Racism and this is not to say that.

Speaker 12 (01:34:52):
These have not been. There they.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Have but on the other, hand it's also not to
say that they're not present in other.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
Places they certainly have.

Speaker 10 (01:35:02):
Been it is in The, west, however that we have
developed this extraordinary degree of consciousness of reflecting on what
we are, doing whether it lines up with the core
elements of This western tradition THAT i described, before and
then correcting.

Speaker 12 (01:35:20):
Them that's self correcting mechanism in The western tradition is
one of its great, strengths.

Speaker 10 (01:35:26):
AND i am confident that it will manifest itself even
in the midst of the crisis and the questions that
we ask ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Today what can a Student AND i Asked alan this
off the, air about what age range we're looking for
the golden Thread these new command two, cookbooks two text
books That alan and his colleague have put. Together what
would a kid? Expect we'll start with the first.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
Volume what would you? Cover what do you cover in
the first?

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Volume and then we'll cover what's covered in the second as.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
Well let me At.

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
Lisa, yes they are in a sense cookbooks because they
are a recipe for. Recovery more than, that they're the recipe.

Speaker 13 (01:36:06):
For a really good meal of ideas of, art because
these books contain tremendous collections of reproductions of great, art of,
music of.

Speaker 12 (01:36:19):
Culture, yes in a sense that was a correct slip.

Speaker 10 (01:36:25):
Up they are, cookbooks but they're cookbooks for a feast
that covers all these great aspects of The western.

Speaker 12 (01:36:33):
Tradition now who can benefit from it?

Speaker 10 (01:36:35):
Most the target that we have in view is very
largely upper division high school advanced placement courses for, instance
and those could be eleventh, grade twelfth, grade.

Speaker 12 (01:36:48):
But also for first year college.

Speaker 10 (01:36:51):
Surveys and these two books can be used in, conjunction for,
instance a two semester survey that you might see for
first year student at the college, level or they can
be adopted for freestanding. Use so if someone wants to,
do let's, say a senior high school of course devoted

(01:37:11):
to ancient, Civilizations volume one will serve that very. Nicely
if someone wants to do a course for high school
seniors about the Modern, West volume two will meet that
need quite adequately as.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Well so the REASON i asked that in and by the,
WAY i got an email from a listener who, Said
i'm so EXCITED i ordered a copy of the books for.
Myself so you've sold two right, there right, There, allan
the book is The Golden, thread a history Of western.
Tradition and it's my hope that you, know, WANT i

(01:37:44):
want kids to learn the good the bad and the,
ugly BECAUSE i think that we need a complete sort
of viewing of of Our western traditions and of the
history that goes along with. That AND i just feel
like we've swung the pendulum to WHEN i was a
child and we learned That George washington could not tell a,
lie he chopped down a cherry, tree and by, gosh

(01:38:05):
we were going to believe it to now we're the
great oppressors and everything that's wrong in the world is our.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Fault SO i feel like this would be.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
A nice way to swing the pendulum back to the
center where we can talk about Why western civilization has
been so. Successful do you guys get into the sort
of creative aspects of The western tradition And western civilization
and how they have pulled the rest of the world
forward with the advancements and things that have come out
Of western.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Civilization all through these, books all through.

Speaker 10 (01:38:36):
Them Jim hankins in volume one is going to introduce
you to how The greeks built a civilization there in
The Eastern mediterranean and the principles of law of democracy
that they used in constructing The Golden age Of.

Speaker 12 (01:38:54):
Athens he'll take.

Speaker 10 (01:38:56):
You through The Roman republic and the empire that succeeded
it Through, christendom all the way up to about the
year fifteen. Hundred the second, volume the VOLUME i am
largely responsible, for we'll pick up all of this discussion
at about the year fifteen, hundred and then we'll move
forward to the present and all through both of these

(01:39:17):
volumes we're going to, examine and we're going to examine
fairly all of these great, developments whether they are developments and,
economics whether they're developments in, art whether the developments in
religion and, philosophy and we will critique some aspects of,
these and at the same time we will also point,
out here are the great, Strengths here are the gifts

(01:39:39):
that we inherit from these, things because in a, way
like our parents when we're, little when we're, small we
think our parents can do no. Wrong then we get
to be teenagers and we think that our parents can
do nothing. Right, ye, well in some, respects we're something
in the adolescence right now in terms of. Culture but

(01:40:01):
what happens when we become adults. Ourselves then we realize
that our parents were actually a lot wiser than we,
thought and that doesn't wipe away the mistakes that they
might have, made but it also makes us appreciate that.
WISDOM i think that is the spirit in which The Golden,
thread both volumes of, it both of them have.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
Been Written alan well so is my.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Guest not only has he written SOME i think some
of the best books On Abraham lincoln and The Civil
war available. PERIOD i just think they're. Outstanding they're not.
Boring that they're history books that are not. Boring and
if you're one of those people's LIKE i don't want
to read, history he makes it. Interesting and the new
textbook is Called The Golden, Thread The history of The Western.
TRADITION i hope that this makes its way into those ap,

(01:40:44):
classes in those college classes as quickly as. Possible alan
has been a joy talking to you. Today thank you
so much for me all, right thank, you thank you so.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
Much thank You.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Allan and guess who's wandered in the.

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
Studio That's Gonner's red.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Everybody, yeah, Uh. Mandy would these books be good for homeschool,
Curriculum it just depends on how ambitious you are with
your kids and how advanced your kids.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Are so there you go, anyway any, way five zero fifty.
Months oh did he? Boom did he did?

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
It?

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Yeah he.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Did and now he's going to. Jail he's going to
be a rock star in, prison or somebody's going to
murder him for street, cred.

Speaker 7 (01:41:24):
One of the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Other but right now it's time for the most exciting
segment on the.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
Radio On it's kid. Now ye know Whoa?

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Connor you're not ready for the inn the world? Yet
you're gonna do the in the world next. Time, okay,
okay all, right what is our dad joke of the.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
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Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
You, anyway thank. You word of the. Day now the.
Cogress what, cacography? Chicographygraphy what does it?

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Mean i'm gonna say it's the science of, noise loud.
Noises that that's What i'm going? Patography yeah you got?

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Anything she is? Wrong dang, it it's stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
Cacography it means bad handwriting or poor.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
Penmanship oh well that actually that kind of works, though
you know WHAT i. MEAN i suffer from. Cacography, yes,
wow look at his.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Chicography, yes that is what is the capital Of. Romania anybody?

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Know anybody? KNOW i, KNOW i, KNOW i.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
KNOW i will tell you THAT i did look at
the answer to make SURE i, knew BUT i do
know the. Answer you're, right Booch arest Book arrest is the.
Capital that, place, yeah Of. Romania that's one Of it's
on my list of places to.

Speaker 5 (01:42:49):
Visit And i'm not even. KIDDING i almost Said. Budapest
oh that's the wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
COUNTRY a, right, People, yes and it's beautiful if you
ever to go go, there it's, beautiful all, Right, connor.

Speaker 5 (01:43:01):
Is this his first time playing off the? DAY i
think it, is, right is?

Speaker 12 (01:43:03):
It?

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
Oh you been here?

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Before, Okay so this is the jeopardy portion where you
have to say your name if you want to answer the. Question,
okay you do not have to wait until the end
of the, question BUT i do because it's your first.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
Time, yes, okay but as soon.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
As the question is, Over i'm going to be saying.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
My, name so no. Pressure hopefully we'll. Say i'm just
letting you. Know the category is sheers to.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
Beers, oh come, On i'm just kidding, ahead all, right
talking about after being honored at the eighteen ninety Three
World's air In. Chicago this brand added blue ribbon to its.

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
Name, mandy what is? Papst it's good you were a little,
early but we'll allow.

Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
IT i guess the four man ingredients in beer are, water, hops,
yeast And connor Mon that is. Correct the name of
this bodybuilding title was inspired by a.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Beer of all. Things this is. COOL i, mean, Oh,
mandy what Is?

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Olympus Mister, Olympus Mister, olympia Mister.

Speaker 5 (01:44:07):
OLYMPIA i mean time? There will you? Know you know?

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
What we won't give you a, minus But i'm not
gonna give you a. Point It's Mount's. Olympia he got there.

Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
Eventually i'm taking my, point all, Right.

Speaker 6 (01:44:16):
Okay pilsner originated in This european republic that some consider
the most beer drinking nation on. Earth connor At, Czechislakia
i'm not see.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
There he did the second.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
One, no, NO i won't take your point, away But
i'm not giving you. One it's one to zero BECAUSE
i took my point.

Speaker 6 (01:44:36):
Away, okay this So, connor if you know it for,
sure go for. It but she has to at least
get you right to. Tie but you can get a. Minus,
okay so you have a one zero. Lead play with that.
Smartly this popular four hundred year Old dutch brand of
beer is known for its distinctive green bottle with a
swing top. Manby that is, correct and we are a,

(01:45:00):
tie which means you got to go to a. Tiebreaker
let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
With around The. Caribbean around The.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
Caribbean The Trench town neighborhood Of kingston is considered the
birthplace of this music, genre.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
Reggae that is.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Correct stocking up red stripe on that last start the, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
Because SOMETIMES i will answer the wrong question BECAUSE i
ring in too. Soon the first time is always the.
Hardest the second time it gets much, easier trust, Me.
Connors so if you need to, calls try it. Again
we've got Ko sports coming up. Next, everybody have a
great weekend and we'll see you On. Monday keep it
right here ON koa