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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mean Merril Reese.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
He's boxing immortality, but I mean anybody who's able to
hold the same job and let alone whether you think
it's a cool job or not, hold the same job
for forty nine years. Yeah, be revered within the market
the way Merrill Reeese is. And I think my man
just turned eighty four, eighty five years of age, and
he's still the play by play voice for the Philadelphia Eagles.

(00:22):
He was on yesterday and we mixed in some bird seed.
We chatted about some good, some bad, some ugly with
the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles have had problems beating the
Minnesota Vikings in this state. The Minnesota Vikings have had
problems beating the Philadelphia Eagles in that state. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna start here, although I do
want to jump back. I think did you catch Meryl
Reese in a mood yesterday? Pa?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
He was in the car so when we were negotiating times, Yes,
I would prefer to start at this time. Paul, the
offensive line coach was just put into the radio show. Yes, well,
perhaps we can do eleven o'clock your time, Paul, it
would be noon Philly Freedom time.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Because that in that interview he mentioned on in step
parts of the conversation that he's still able to get
up and down a golf course.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
He still walks eighteen and that.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
By the way, I've been doing it for forty nine years,
just signed another long term deal.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I know.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
He just wanted to let Everyboddy you know, it ain't
over for Meryl Reese and those mink coats quite yet.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Crazy He went common on it.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I always loved that one, but nobody was suggesting that
he A has lost a verbal step or B was
close close to the end. That's why I'm thinking we
caught I was setting something up. I asked him, do
you still go to all the road games?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Because I know, well, I didn't think he went to
Brazil last year when they debuted against Green Bay. So
we didn't talk about last year, so he probably kept
it to this year. I don't go to FedEx Field.
It's just too difficult to get in and out in
the stadium as a dump. Okay, Well, so he eventually

(02:56):
understood what I was saying, but it was far from
from an affront on somebody's age or or quality of
a boxing style.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
No, that's why I'm thinking you triggered something yep, that
somebody else had triggered in him regarding doing a preseason
game on the big screen instead of at the awful pit.
He made it sound like it was the destitute wasteland,
this Northwest stadium.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Bit it's awful.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, but yet right, I'm glad you brought that up
because I texted him like I do most if not
all of our guests when we're done, Thank you very much,
greatly appreciate it, have a good day.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Left me on Red. I always love that one, Mayor.
And of course he's got read receipts.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
No. But here's the thing is that I looked back
at the ones when we were negotiating the time and delivered, delivered,
delivered the thank you, appreciate the time, see you this weekend.
He had to have switched to red to leave me
on it. He's gonna leave me up, leave me on Red,
and I see him this weekend. He's aft of the earth.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know, I want to start here. We have been
obsessed with health on the Minnesota Vikings. Yes, and it's
because this is our universe, our sphere. You would call
it a fish bowl and a certain rock that we
rest and reside underneath the vikings.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Think Jalen Carter plays this weekend, Well, but that's the key.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
So I was reading some NBC Sports reporting and right
now Jalen Carter is one of their biggest disappointments so
far in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
PA and NBC Sports the bit that works with the Eagles,
NBC Sports Philadelphia. Yeah, they're and I'm doing a zoom
with them. Tomorrow. Okay, one o'clock Cornfields. Do you see
an Ashland Sullivan. Let me Asklyn Sullivan and something spedaro.
I think, well, Doug's Fedarro for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
He works.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
He works with the Eagles, I believe, so it must
be TV reporter. Plus he does the NBC sports bit.
But here's what they say about Jalen Carter. So after
the All Pro season a year ago, we remember him,
I mean top ten pit and he was an absolute
badass all year. Astronomical expectations this season that have not
played out. He misses the opener. We know that after

(05:08):
the spitting bit with Dak Prescott. He had ten and
a half sacks a year ago. And he has no sacks,
no pass knockdowns, no force fumbles, just three solo tackles. Jeez,
one TfL in his four games that he's played this year.
And then he missed this last game against the Giants
with the heel. And I've been hearing so you're saying

(05:30):
on the it sounds like Vikings are planning, which makes sense,
you'd plan on if the big time are plays.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm reading coin flip and maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
You know that's the week of injury subterfusion stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So you watch for the injury reports, that's a questionable.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
But for Fangio's group, man, that guy means a ton
and he's been an absolute disaster this year. So disappointments
with the defense, and we'll run through various aspects, but
Quinyon Mitchell has been hurt and he's iffy into this
game as well. They're starting that Makuba the second year,
the rookie, second round rookie at safety, ni Kobe Dean.

(06:05):
They could only get him into special teams work a
week ago. How much defense can he play? And they
might need him given the fact that Jalx Hunt has
been a problem for them in terms of productivity this year.
Zadariusz Zadarius, he.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Just retired and he had a sack and a half
which was which was like twenty five thirty percent of
their team total sacks.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, and that's the thing is they're not getting to
the QB. They're not affecting things the way that we
had known them to do just even a year ago.
And their first rounder, by the way, joh Campbell, the linebacker,
I think he's out of Bama. He can't crack the
starting lineup. Okay, so that's just on the defensive side
of the ball, and I'll hit you with this as well. Yeah,

(06:48):
that's the big key, the defense before we miss, before
we jump to the other side. Well, it is a
massive key. And the way that we've kind of talked
about it right in the Vikings two losses, you've seen
John Robinson get loose, which he has a right to do.
He's an absolute superstar running back. But we need we
expect better out of Flores and that group, I should

(07:08):
say in no doubt about that. But then gain well
in the Steelers game. I do think that this run
conversation is going to be going to be a bigger
part of this on Sunday. But respectively, a year ago,
PA they were top ten on third down offense. A
year ago top ten, they are bottom six this year

(07:29):
just over thirty percent. Last year defense on third down
they were third in the NFL last year. This year
they're twenty sixth. So what you're having right now is
a lack of efficiency. And we know about the tush push.
They're still very good at it, but their inability to
move the chains on third down, their inability to keep

(07:49):
other teams from moving the chains on third down. Something
is happening, specifically in the trenches that is causing problems.
So from a bird seed stamp point, I'm already full.
My belly is full wondering what is going on with
Fangio's defense, A defense I think tops in scoring a
year ago, second in yards scoring on the Eagles was

(08:11):
a massive freaking problem a year ago.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Now not so much, not as much. I should say, Well,
they James brad Berry has seen his better days. Darius
Lay still can play. So he's not big play slay
like he used to be, but as we saw in
the Steelers game, to a certain extent, he still can play. Yeah,
I think they had Josh Sweat on their team last year.
They did okay, Well, that's a for a team that

(08:35):
is lacking edge pass rushing. That's an edge pass rusher
they had to let go, right, Why did they have
to let him go? Because of paying Saquon yep and
aj Brown and eventually or Jalen Hurts and stuff like that.
Their left guard land and Dickerson is one of the
better in the game. He missed the last game. But

(08:56):
this from a secondary standpoint, I mean, it's it's it's
kind of like a Vikings offseason conversation that we've had
the last couple of years. You trust Byron Murphy Junior.
They believe heavily in Isaiah Rodgers, and they absolutely look
prescient with that first day of free agency decision.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Then you got Jeff Okuda Nudy behind him.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Makai Blackman was on the team at that time, and
Mackay is making some memories for Indianapolis. So the point
being here is if you're able to rush it with Grenard,
Van Ginkel, Hargrave, Alan and Dallas Turner like they felt
they would, they can protect the secondary.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
The Eagles, I don't really know what what their expectations
were with their edge guys. Jahad Campbell the rookie. He
is absolutely supposed to be a starting and b having
more sacks than he does. Carter's been in and out.
Like you said, that's crazy. Jordan Davis has been a stalwart.
I think they use Ojalari as one of their edge

(10:00):
you guys, I think he's beaten Campbell out of the job. Yeah,
Ziz Ojalai. Zach Bond good but has come back to
the pack. Cooper Degene very good but has come back
to the pack a little bit. Read blank and Ship
gets a little too hot headish from what I understand.
And when he gets that way, you put him on
a double move, you put it you. So just keep

(10:20):
that as the first nugget of bird seed information we're
going to share up to the game. We'll share a
lot more on Friday as the steam begins to assimilate.
Read Blankenship. If you see him get upset about something
with a referee, a play or something like that, next play,
double move over the top on the hot head and

(10:42):
you score about eight out of ten times. Yeah, and
you mentioned you mentioned sacks in general. They have nine
sacks as a team through through six games and only
two four six teams have fewer at this stage.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So they're not getting to the QB. They're not getting
they're not affecting the pass game. Yeah, which leads you
down the road. You mention those corners man Keeley Ringo.
They're trying to get a ton out of him. I
think he's one of like the fifty Georgia Cats that
play on the Eagles team.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, it ain't working.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And Adri Jackson, who's just a retread originally maybe a
first round pick, with the Titans, eventually found his way
to the Giants and is now with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
He's been absolutely dreadful.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And then I did mention, of course, quinyon camp play,
So I don't know if that's if that's a Perry
Nickerson side.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
And how about they have Perry Nickers say we love
Perry go Perry Marcus EPs.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, I think he was here for like a training
camp or something like that, maybe seventh round Vikings draft pick.
But that brings us, that brings us to the offense.
So drilling it down and I can certainly I can
be indicted for making things too simplistic. Maybe in some respects,
I think the running game means everything as far as

(11:51):
his team goes. So just kind of laying it out here,
three and a half yards a clip with Saquon versus
four point nine a year ago, middle of the attempts
this year versus tops in the league. So in the
way that you might ask, hey, Kevin O'Connell three and
two team, how do you sum up the identity of
the Minnesota Vikings at this point? And I think Kevin O'Connell,

(12:12):
being fully honest, would kind of struggle to really pinpoint
the identity of what this team does on a weekly basis.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, we can just go star power and just
go justin.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Jefferson just can't be stopped right now, and he's willing
this team to victories. But at a broad global level,
what's the identity of this team? Still trying to find
it because health is an issue. But I'm looking at
the O line man reading through at Cam Jurgens and
this is from just reading. You mentioned Doug Spedarro of
the Eagles reading some of their stuff hasn't been very good,

(12:42):
not consistent enough this year? Is that because you mentioned it?
Landon Dickerson. I think he got hurt in the opener
and he was grinding it out. Didn't play in the
Giants game. So that's some bird.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Seed for you.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
With the left guard situation, another person to watch on
the offense, they downgraded because they had Makai. But Beckton,
remember him, former Jet Lazy Huge finally finds his way
to Philly and suddenly he's the Cats. Me out right
at the right guard spot, part of a two thousand
yard rushing season. Well, they go to Tyler Steen hasn't
been very good. They traded for former first round pick

(13:15):
Kenyon Green in the offseason, hoping he would compete. He
was terrible. I don't think he's on the team anymore.
Lane Johnson looks old. Their on line isn't dominating games.
I mean, it's kind of drilling down to you want
to speak to identity, the identity of we're going to
run it. You know we're gonna run it. It's like
Adrian's MVP season, right. We know we're gonna put eight

(13:36):
guys in the box if we can. We know you're
handing it to number twenty eight. You just have no shot.
Now we have a shot, and it's becoming an issue
because of their offensive line. Hertz is on pace for
more sacks than thirty eight that he had in fifteen
games last year. He's got eighteen eighteen sacks already through
six games. The run game means everything to this team, man,

(13:58):
and the hurts in the passing it because a big
part of our conversation has been you know AJ Brown,
you know, not Stefan Digg's style cryptic in his press
conference related quips and quotes, but still kind of lending you.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
To the kid.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Ain't happy, right, AJ Brown ain't happy with how it's going. Statistically,
they're kind of in this similar boat to where they
were a year ago. But when you drop from having
the most prolific rushing attack nearly to a historic standard,
to a team that I believe, let me find it
here right in front of me. They are twenty fifth

(14:32):
in yards, fourteen in attempts. They still have all those
rushing touchdowns fourth worst in the NFL, and yards per attempt.
They are an absolute mess pa, and it starts in
the same way. Upgrade Javon Hargrave. Love that Jonathan Allen,
Welcome to the Covenant. And then on the offensive side
of the ball, going to Ryan Kelly, going to Fries

(14:53):
doing what you did to find Donovan Jackson, who looks
like a stud. Can't wait for him to be back.
All that investment into the trenches that has been their
identity and their culture for a decade and it ain't working.
It ain't good, and their health issues are impacting them
in massive ways where I mean just flippantly, like on
a Monday out of the bye weeks, I'm feeling good,

(15:15):
I'm filling in for you, and I'm thinking to myself, man,
it was kind of nice to spend the weekend, not
talking about Carson Wentzer, JJ McCarthy, excited to see who plays,
want the kid to be healthy.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
It was kind of fun not having that on my mind.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
It was also nice not having to jump right into
Eagles week and here we are, it's Monday.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Man. Teams lost too in a row.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You got Jackson Dart and freaking cam Scataboo clowning on
these guys in prime time. How pissed are the Eagles
gonna be after winning two in a row?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Are they capable of getting to that emotions? That's what
I'm worried about. Well, not worried about a Vikings fan, but.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's what You've made as much money as the most
key players on that team have made. Okay, they're not
the first team to have a bevy of superstars to
make stacks on top of stacks of cash. But when
you make that kind of life changing money and you
get a super Bowl ring, yeah yeah, I mean human
nature gets to win too. Eventually something seeps inside you

(16:17):
that you can't get around absolutely, because you're like, I'm
looking at this account, these investments, got all these family
members tapping on me and everything. I can deal with that.
Oh and I got this ring. Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I'm good. I'm taking chill for a little bit. I'm good.
You know just what they're getting now, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, and they've now seen the top. But kind of
flipping ly on a Monday, I'm thinking to myself, of course,
of course this is a get right game for Saquon.
Of course, angry infighting. They are their own worst enemy.
I don't believe that. That is, if we were talking
hyperbolic or hyper accurate. I think I'm hyper accurate with that.

(16:51):
I think the Eagles are their own worst enemy. And
this has to be the roll in the US Bank
Stadium stop on the purple quarterback situation, everything involved, and
Saquan's going to run like the wind right out those
open pivoting doors on a beautiful Sunday in Minneapolis, and
it's a lopside of victory for the Birds.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You get a lead on these birds, the way they're
acting right now, they ain't coming back on you.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I don't think they can run. I don't think they
can come into US Bank Stadium. This is a Wednesday
before a Sunday, and the game's got to play out
as it looks. I don't think they can come in
here and run for two hundred yards on the Vikings, right,
and if they cannot do that, I think they're in
significant trouble on Sunday against the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
What do you think of this? All right?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So with the bird seed of negativity? Yeah, very well
laid out. I just wonder what has changed from September fourteenth,
winning a narrowhead by three. Next game down three plus
touchdowns at home to the Rams. Yeah, come back and
win it by seven? What is that the kickblock TD

(17:59):
something like that?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
The next week September twenty eighth at Tampa Bay. Well,
the Buccaneers have one loss. Or did they lose to
the Niners? No, they're they're five and one. Yeah, they
have one loss. It was this game, right, thirty one
to twenty five. Tough pick by Baker in the end zone. Well,
they were getting killed in that game too. Then they
came back valiantly. Okay, So through all of that, those

(18:22):
teams are quality stock and Philly found a way to win.
So from September twenty eighth through October fifth, the way
they blew that Broncos game, because the Broncos offense leaves
a lot to be desired and they allowed twenty one
points and they lost at home to Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Then they got the short week at Skataboo and Dart
and they get killed. So what do you think of this?
I mean, if Eagles fans are looking for get right week,
they got the Vikings this weekend noon US Bank Stadium.
A week after that they host the Giants.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Look ahead to the dark game.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I think anybody ever would have said that, So look
ahead to the dark Scataboo game. I think the in
the week after that that's a slumpbuster right there. Then
the week after that they're on the bye. When you
have that type of life change, inequity. Yeah, and now
you got the ring to go with it, you start
looking at the bye.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
You do when's the bye? I'm good, I'm cool man,
I got my ring, I got my money out.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know the thing that you've hit on a couple
of times with Branding Graham And you were talking with
Meryl yesterday bringing up Reeze, bringing up bho F Box
and Box, the love and adoration that he that he
kind of poured out. Meryl did yesterday about Jalen Hurts.
Sounds like Jalen Hurts might be that calm in presence

(19:49):
and just being outside. I mean, you look at him.
Dude has no pulse. So sounds right. I'm gonna I'm
just gonna lend to Ta Meryl's expertise.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
On that one.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
But branding Graham, who was really i mean Lane Johnson
certainly in the mix, but Brandon Graham kind of the og.
He's been there for all of it, right, he was
there through twenty seventeen, and he was there certainly last
year getting to the top of the mountain. And he
was that guy you mentioned it late season, just things
were getting weird. Super talented team, almost bored with their

(20:19):
prosperity that they just have all this extra time to
fight and wine with each other.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Brandon Graham walked into the locker room.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
He's like the bleep enz, it's over, well, shut up
and play and we're going to handle business.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And then they would move forward from that.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Brandon Graham first went public and did like a podcast
or an interview, got after it there when he was
on IR he was on he was on the the
IR bit that like cost him almost the entire season.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So picture the leader and the presence, So who is
that guy.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Now is that cliche? Is that overblown?

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Because he here it once in a while, Like, what
does a leader in the locker room look like? Well,
they come in many forms. They can be the loud
guy that's pounding his chest. It can be the quiet
assassin that just does everything at the most elite of
elite levels. Leads, by example, leaders come in many forms,
but without who is that guy? Because the coach, you know,
in the way that if we're looking at leadership with

(21:15):
the vikings, you appreciate those postgame speeches and the way
that Kevin O'Connell from a culture standpoint, has has built
this organization. I want to win playoff games, but from
a cultural standpoint, we're loving where we're at. The the
Sirianni bit, if he doesn't have a branding Graham to
go in there and galvanize.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Or a Jason Kelcey who used to help a lot
with that or.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
A Jason kelce can Sirianni be a guy that galvanizes.
I don't see him that way. I was impressed with
how he held things together and and has really put
together the team that they have and gets over the top.
But there is still a little bit of petulance. There's
a little bit of front runner that I feel when
when I see Sirianni. Can he be the guy that

(22:00):
cools this group out into the by I don't know, man.
I just again, the Eagles are their own worst enemy.
Most talented team in the league by my estimation, they
can still roll into US Bank Stadium on Sunday and
put forty on Flores. I know they can. However, no
they can't. You don't think so, not forty.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, but you get the they can. They can show
up and play, make it a high scoring game.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
They are a high end team that is fractured, and
it's a fund and it's fundamentally fractured. It goes beyond
even whether or not Jalen Carter plays. There's something else
in the mix that is an issue. And that and
and if they can't again, if they can't run the
ball on Sunday, if they're gonna throw out three and
a half yards per carry, the Vikings are going to

(22:45):
be four and two.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's just how it feels.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
To me again on a Wednesday before a matinee Sunday game.

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go on a Wednesday morning and I am going to
start here. How much time do you think Kevin O'Connell
with the buye. I mean, we're so wrapped up in

(24:27):
health certainly, but from a time standpoint, how much time
do you think Kevin O'Connell's spent during the bye week
the internal conversations in relation to penalties penalties for your
Minnesota Vikings. There's seven flags against Cleveland, by the way,
that was actually the fewest of any game this season,

(24:51):
and it's been something that we've chronicled, whether it be
Vikings fanline and of course just in talkers throughout the year.
But the penalties the issue, and just if anything, the
core the head coach is going to lose sleepover, is
going to lose sleepover what's going on with the quarterback situation.
But these freaking penalties, man, you know, it's seven flags
in the Cleveland game. Otherwise it was eight, eight, eight

(25:13):
and thirteen in the other four respectively. Fourth most pre
snap flags in the NFL. I think that's probably the
most frustrating aspect of this that those pre snap penalties.
I think it's a twenty that's the most among teams
that have played in five games, but fourth most in
the NFL pre snap wise. I just wonder, Pa, you

(25:34):
know how much time among everything that Kevin O'Connell has
to organize out of the bye week and into this
game with Philly, just like the self inflicted bits, the
disciplined bits like quality team, talented team, we're loving break
Blake Brandell and what he did, we're loving justin Jefferson.
But regardless of all of that, the undisciplined aspect in

(25:56):
spots with this team has to be driving the coach.
It's crazy that has to be among the first few
nuggets on his clipboard that he's addressing out of the
buy into Philly.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right above it or right behind it, And you could
kind of tell by the way he shared it with
X's and o's nine to noon yesterday. I think the
Mason and Xavier Scott fumbles really got to him. Oh now,
Mason fumbled in the Steelers game, I mean lucked out
though Vikings were very fortunate there touching that boundary that
Jalen Ramsey didn't get to the house for six. So yes,

(26:29):
those things I think are getting to him. I think
the quarterback situation is working on him. I can't even
explain what way, because Kevin generally has such a hold
on things, which I believe they have and it will
get stronger, yeah, once players come back. But there's just
been a lot and you know it's it's O'Connell. You know,

(26:53):
it's difficult speaking for other people having not talked to
him about it, but I'm going to take that lead
now with Kevin is when when you hear the phrase
to whom much is given, much is expected, Well, not
everybody takes that to a ten of ten level.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think Kevin does.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, so nobody knows exactly what he makes cheerly with
the extension who cares? Nobody exactly knows how many years
with the extension?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Okay, you're you're a fantastic head coach who continues to improve.
But you know, when you do win Coach of the year,
you come off fourteen wins, it not only comes to
a screeching halt, but I mean, you got you know,
you got your You're running into walls and trees with
that symbolic car at the end of it, and it

(27:44):
was bad. Yeah, and then you know off that he
wins Coach of the Year. Let's two quarters, two quarterbacks go.
And when I say let two quarterbacks go, they could
have signed they could have given Sam Darnold one hundred
million dollar deal, they could have beaten the Indian Appolis
Colts and what they were offering Daniel Jones and said,

(28:04):
you compete for the job and here's what we're going
to give you.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
And and you know.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Maybe that would have made things different and a little
more calming, But nevertheless, he cares so much about how
things go with this team from a minotia standpoint, specifically
with those things you mentioned, Yeah, that it's something I
just I send something's eating at him and I kind
of sense it in London, and I think it's the

(28:30):
out of control, Like you get everything ready, you get
all these guys squared away, you're going to use the
undrafted Wisconsin guy left guard. You're going to put a
center in there who's never done it in his life
at any level. You're you're without O'Neill. You know, Darisol's
leaving the game. All that's frustrating, but most of it's working.
So you're getting it to work. It's when when you

(28:52):
have ring cred and you care about it the way
that man does, and the pre snap penalties and some
of the foolishness just does not stop. He's gonna take
it personally. Yeah, and out of the vibe. Chance to
turn all out of those rounds upside down bikes Bykees
bikes bites.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Thank you, Thousand Hills. How about this did Jonathan Grenard? So,
Jonathan Grenard, I think this podcast it's called Flag Flag
on the play and it's Trent. I'm going to butcher
the name mcgoffee mcgahey spell it mick mc g a
u g h e y. Yeah, it's either mcgae or mcgoffee.

(29:32):
I think I think it's McGee but but either way,
thank you to Trent. I think this is a Houston
area podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah. I don't even know who the guy is.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
The former Texan probably connected with these guys during his
time in Houston, and he was on the podcast, and
people kind of looking at it was was this a
potential oopsie? Was this a potential lean from Jonathan Grenard?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yesterday?

Speaker 5 (29:56):
We've just like we still got to get everybody bad things.
He'll probably be bad with something like that. I think
I think you will. How about that?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I got to find right there the car, let's let's
hear that one more time. And if you can picture
so there's.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I mean, it's Zapruder film, right, I mean just kind
of digging into combinations, not of the audio plus the
frame by frame, seeing his face as he says it
will listen to it one more time.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Not in Joe, We've just like we still have to
get aybody bad things. He'll probably be back this week
or something like that. I think think you will.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Was there a potential was there a potential.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oopsie by our high end pass rusher as as he said,
you know.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
JJ is gonna be a back up catches himself kind
of hooks his neck a little bit though. McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean it's until proven otherwise the BET's over
for me. I mean that's a that that right there.
Like when did he do the podcast within the last
two days?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Uh? This was yesterday, I believe.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, they practiced on Monday.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Oh I'm so happy he did that, even if he's wrong,
because the nine to noon tandem is getting beaten down
with this.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It hurts.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Here's why it should be McCarthy and there's no other side.
Here's why it should be Carson and there's no other side.
The broze mermania. Froze mermania. That's fun, and eventually he
may get a chance to play some quarterback.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
But that's in a side.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's just like last week when you know, after I've
been out for a little bit and in Europe and
stuff and was kind of in and out. When I
got back, you encouraged me. You said, look, this quarterback
talkback bit is hot. It is like, all right, let's
do it, and nobody's mad at the talkbackers or the
people offering the opinions. I could only hear three, and

(31:50):
I never wanted to hear him again. I know you
said simply because it's not everything has to be a
best or a worst. Ever, not everything has to be
a ten.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's over or zero of ten, and I'm just gonna retreat.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Not everything has to be that in this world, or
certainly in football where you know, like I said earlier, hey,
if they deemed Carson Wentz the right quarterback for this game,
well that doesn't mean the future or the immediate future
for JJ McCarthy is in peril. It doesn't mean they
feel that they invested in bad goods. I don't know

(32:32):
if I use this example yesterday nine to noon, but
on that Sacramento radio station with Grant and Napier last
night at six o'clock when he was asking me about
some of these quarterbacks, I just kind of tripped down
this road and I'm like, Drake May, all right. When
I saw Drake May last year, wait, good to hear
Grant back in the mix. By the way, but Bob
Grant's awesome. You don't think I dropped day. And by

(32:53):
the way, as a Christian, all lives do matter. All right,
let's talk about blah blah blah. Go ahead and research him.
But anyway, three two, oh, yeah, So Drake May when
I saw him last year, I'm like, I mean, huh, okay,
but the coaching staff got fired, so now you got
new bits in there. So now we see him this
year up close and personally at twin Citi's Orthopedics Performance Center,

(33:16):
two days of joint practices. Yeah, getting blow me away.
I'm like, all right, I mean he yeah, he has
a nice arm. Yes he's fast. But still there was
when Flores wanted to shut that kid down on a Thursday.
There's nothing Drake May could do about it, no matter
what play they called.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, well, he's not the first to face that that's true.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But nevertheless, even in the preseason game in which he played.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
He didn't want to play in that game.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, So I'm like, there's nothing that's bowling me over
with Drake May.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So I'm spending a Sunday in Denver, Colorado after purchasing
this aggressive YouTube thing for more money than I wanted
to pay, so I could watch all the games at
my daughter's house and we sat around, made lunch watching
all the games, and everything in New England.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
New Orleans actually was an entertaining game.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
It was I'm watching Drake May after having seen him
play against Buffalo, and I'm like, bam bam, bam bam
oooh five step drop plant fire booty boundary, nice May dinging,
Uh huh seven step drop look left, swing back right
because that's you know, because you know the booty is

(34:28):
going to be there. Yeah, he finds the booty chains move.
Everybody's happy. CON's in his basement slapping that thing the base.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Once the lights go down.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
So I'm like, geez, Drake May in hand and in command,
what are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Nine games?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Ten games maybe for Drake yeah, two off seasons, two
off seasons, and I don't know, twelve games whatever. But
that still is not a voluminous amount of games. No,
it's not with our kid. We're talking about two, talking
about eight quarters.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
He's played in nineteen games.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
As matter of fact, Drake has Okay, he played in them,
that's part he's uh, he.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Started eighteen of them.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I think you that's perfect because the age old adage
with me is with quarterbacks. I need twenty to twenty
five before I can start getting loud about him.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Either way.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, I'm getting loud about Drake May my man's arrived.
I mean he put Hunter Henry on a game three
games ago where I can't remember who they were playing.
They couldn't stop it, you know, and he was selling
stuff to get wait for Henry to get open. So
the old line obviously had to help. But there's the
example with McCarthy. So backtrack. This is your layering late leader.

(35:41):
So let's go to the baseline. Bernard slips nine to noon,
enthralled because McCarthy's the quarterback against the Eagles. Is it
right or is it wrong? We don't care. We just
don't have to think about all three options anymore until
proven wrong. Right, and the head coach Todd nexts layer
head coach nine to noon yesterday.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
This is not going to be some top secret mission
up to the game. I'll let the public know what
the quarterback is when I'm ready. Boom next layer. Drake
May problematic nineteen twenty into it, Drake May not problematic?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Problematic. You can win games with Drake May, Yes you can.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So that's casting the Gays the way of the future
for JJ McCarthy. But it doesn't mean our version of
Jacoby Brissett might need to jump in there every so
often and compete and or win games. And that doesn't
make the GM or the head coach foolish. It doesn't
make the kid a bust. And it also doesn't make
the Brissette slash Wentz the future of the franchise.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
This is perfect. I'm so glad you found that. Let
me ask you this then and then we'll pause.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Though, how do you think Kevin O'Connell will have to
balance the idea of Drake May in twenty twenty four
was three and nine as a starter and a team
ultimately that was able. I think they was a will campb.
They drafted the Fountain left tackle from LSU this year,
so they found their way to a high draft pick.
So it goes back to the conversation we've had before,

(37:09):
the roster built to win, now the team deciding to
go with McCarthy with a roster perceived off of fourteen
wins to be in the playoff mix. I don't think
anybody had delusions of grandeur in New England a year ago.
So how do you balance the mentality of giving McCarthy
those reps Like you're talking that the kid needs seasoning,

(37:30):
the kid needs opportunity like Drek made did Drake May
in some ways had the benefit of getting that seasoning
and getting those reps with a team that did not
expect was not coming off a season with fourteen wins,
and now new coach, some sweet drafting and a new
aura change has them in a good spot, battling in
an AFC East that we thought was a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
And a group that believes in him of one percent, yeah,
a group that openly lets him know we love you, yes,
which I can't say the previous group in New England
didn't do. But the previous group in New England didn't
do enough for mister Kraft to not give somebody a
three year fat deal as the head coach. I think
it was three and then like at the end of one,

(38:15):
now I'm just gonna go ahead and pay the other two.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
So you leave, you gonna move on. I'm just to lee.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
But but the perception was is Drake May gets to
work as part of a rebuild. JJ McCarthy is walking
into a relow. Yeah, and I think those varying perceptions
have fan bases. Maybe looking at those growth curves that great.
JJ McCarthy through nineteen games could be every bit as
good as Drake May. But if you have to live

(38:42):
through some else you do, there's gonna be some problems. Okay, well,
the fan base perspective.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Guess what I'm you know what again, I'm not speaking
for the team or the coach, and I've never talked
to the coach about this.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Preach that to the head coach.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, let's preach that to Kevin O'Connell, Quasia doofa Menso West, Philip,
Josh McCown, Brian Angelico, everybody associated with the bid. Yes,
this is a reload. Yes, you love him, Yes, you
see good things in him that we have yet to see. Yes,
it's undeniable least twenty two years of age. It's undeniable.

(39:17):
He didn't face anything like this at the collegiate level
for very good teams. So yeah, all of that is factual,
and that's what makes the conversational jambalaya so intriguing for some.
But there are just two things good times bad times here.
The bad times were after you touted me on how

(39:38):
hot this was. You were absolutely right. I could tweet
about this thing all day if I wanted to. But
it's the thing that gets me. Is the thing that
gets me is that people don't leave opening It's not everybody.
People don't leave it open ended. There has to be
the gut shot that is hit. And that's just another

(40:01):
facet of a social media world where people get so
loud and so dumb on social media because in February
and March they start getting loud about who their favorite
team should take and they live it and then they
don't take that and then they get hit and they
can't handle it. So it's it's an open ender here.
If it's McCarthy, well, that doesn't mean Carson's gonna have

(40:22):
to amputate his left shoulder, It's true. If it's Wentce,
that doesn't mean McCarthy's a complete bust if it's Brosemer.
They got two quarterbacks who the establishment does not believe
are healthy enough to play. That those are the facts
that that's just that's the reality of the bit. So
that's the bad time. What are the good times? And
the good times and bad times? Grenard slipped Houston Podcast.

(40:49):
You know we're gonna get all these injuries and uh,
you know JJ's gonna come back time.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Man's at least I think he's gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Man, I'm gonna give him a high five when I
see him today for just taking a tiny bit off
the plate of nine to news. When we start thinking
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(42:17):
Minnesota Wild lose five to two last night in Dallas.
It was a back to back. You get the cool
shootout win. Everyone's loving Volstead. You get the w against
the Kings despite a three nothing lead that you conceded
in the third period and required the shootout in the
first place, but regardless, you get the late one at home.
You head down to Big d a team you struggle

(42:38):
to win anytime you're playing them, the Dallas Stars.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
They stake to three nothing lead.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
The Wild did not crawl their way back from the
other end of that particular scenario.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
They lose five to two.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
But interesting here, through four games now they have a
nearly it's forty seven percent PA. The Wild, howe are
on the power play forty freaking seven percent. Through four games,
they have ten power play goals.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Geez, ten power.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Play goals in particular, I think six of them are
specifically in the number one unit. The Caprice capriceoff did
have a goal, I think in a dime last night
as part of that loss. But we you know, for
years it's like, okay winning face offs. Appreciate that haven't
won a face off since Koebu retired.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
And then hey, how about the special teams? Can we
be better?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know, we need to, you know, can Brodziak come
out of retirement so we're better on the penalty kill?
Can we ever score on the power play with any consistency? Well,
ten goals in four games is pretty freaking nutty. And
they're off to a hot start and lead at least
in special teams. Maybe they can bring that to the
Capital City in a couple of days when they face
said Washington caps.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
A couple of.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Things on that Quickly, the Wild are is on pace
for the greatest power play in NHL history, and you
can argue with the map. And secondly, some of the
most overrated Wild concerns right now include lack of five
on five goals.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
In fact, that might be it.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
They they're scoring goals overall eighth in the NHL and
goals per game, they're getting chances five on five they're creating.
Just like power plays will regress, five on five will
ascend the other way. And their five on five play
is drawing penalties. So that thank you, Tennabe, I appreciate that.

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