October 31, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Friday Football Feast began with Jason Hatch joining the show to talk about how the Lions will defend Justin Jefferson, as well as how the Lions have built there team through the draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, Buffalo wild Wings. Jan Assenim, it's up to you
to do what you want to do. Here, I would say,
out of kindness, maybe a witness or two and or
a quasi raucous round of applause, or you can boo
him because we're three and four in his teams has
beating us five times in a row. This is a
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friend of mine, has been a friend of mine for years.
He is not Johnny or Jason come lately when it
comes to Lions fandom. When he was a baby Jason
or a younger Jason, he cried after almost every loss
in two thousand and eight, and there were sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of them, and he was dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Ladies and gentlemen from the fighting city of Victoria, Farmington, Farmington,
Detroitons fan and a car carrying member of the Love
Covenant with the Great NFC North Debate that takes place
at the Great Minnesota Clomp together Jason Hatch. Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, Payson, Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That there's a there's a Lions fan back there. It's cheering.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, it's better than the first go around the At
one point there were six Lions fans in here, and
I wanted to say, where in the hell were all.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of you and O eight when you were rowing sixteen?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But then I remembered we didn't start the show to
alone nine, so I wouldn't have known the feast anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, it's a great seeing you. I do find it
to be Jason, and it is good to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, happy to be the Great NFC North Debate when
everything was kind of neutral. We didn't know anything and
there was so much new and we were thinking about
the potential regression of the lions. You weren't available for
the Great Debate.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hey, runner, now fast forward killed by Jaden Daniels Camp
find you with a freaking searchlight?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Can't we Teams five and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Two gibbs us out the gate for seventy eight Defense
is looking good with.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Healthy eight and here I am. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I think you skipped your own children's birthday party to
be here this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, you're now that your squad's five had to be
here today. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, nine and a half point favorites eight and a
half point fit whatever it is?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, why you got making nine and a half?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Nine good enough?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I mean eight and a half is probably fine right
up the number a little bit?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, I saw a stat that the Vikings haven't won
a game where that they're this big of an underdog
since twenty ten against the Eagles or something.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh, that was a very Tuesday night game. Yeah, wow,
was that Joe? That wasn't Joe Webb? Joe what? No, Yes,
it was Far.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They actually were sweating Far for like a finale up
to that thing, and it was supposed to be on
Christmas on like Sunday and the snow and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So Joe Webb, yeah, I mean he had that rushing
touchdown near sign.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
On Winfield almost and it might have ended Mike Vick's
career with the Blitz.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But anyway, we're here to talk about.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
The You keep bringing up Yeah, you keep bringing up
eight MotorCity kidding, you keep bringing up eight. And I
know that feeling of going into a game knowing my
team's gonna lose. I can't help but think that's a
little bit what you got going on right now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
You sucker.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, can you give me that twenty back that
I gave you for your for your nachos and your
wings and everything. I mean, got Nick Madden over here,
part of the straight team helping you get a table
and you're just coming here with daggers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, we want you to have daggers.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know why because our favorite football team and US
two we were dagger worthy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We're daggerworthy a little bit. We can handle ourselves.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, thick skin, covenant for the most part. And we're
we're ready. So your team's off of buy. So I'm
gonna ask you this to start, and then we will
just let uh, we'll let the journalist and or the
producer take it away from there, and I'll just kind
of rap their coattails.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh, Terry and Arnold? What do you think of him?
Great athlete, super handy. All right, that's cool. So anyway,
I'm just kidding, glad.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, I mean, well, and with the game, yeah, I
mean and you guys are already whining about penalties. I
saw JJ's press conference. He's already he's already whining and
the game hasn't even started yet, Like I.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Can't punch come on, come on, we've lost five in
a rower. But you see Brisker yesterday saying he Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cry what Yeah, I think kicking us well, I think
a meek follows JJ. Uh yeah, similar to what he
did in week eighteen last year, I think he's gonnall
him around quite a bit. I think Terry, maybe this
time we actually have a quarterback who can hit him.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
You're right, Sam Darnold was terrible. How many games they
win last urga season?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All of them? But the right?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
How is Sam doing this year? I've guys opened in
the end zone? How Sam doing this year? Sam doing
pretty well? Have we played Week eighteen yet? But anyway,
now everybody's in the world is catching strays right now.
Because you're bringing that out of me and Nordos, Let's
just have you going a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Let me say this.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
You said, how is to Arnold? He's a great athlete.
That's like when you're like, how is it? He's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
If I'm being honest, yeah, he's he's Uh, if he
was a.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Good player, he would have said he was a good player.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I'd much rather have DJ Reid back this week than
Terry on Arnold, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Is he coming back at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah? Right, it'll it'll be. It'll be either next week.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Of the following. Dj'll be back. Awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Kirby Joseph isn't gonna play in this game. Court that
Dan Campbell, Okay, yeah, for sure. Brian branch is in
the mix though is.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, Branches back, probably move Rocky Scene to safety, and
I think he'll be Harpernett.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think it'll be Harper. Thomas Harper third year. I mean,
who knew he hasn't had an interception in his career.
Tackles Edge Legion had him going a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I think I got him going. Yeah, the Legion
of whom? Uh from the Tampa game? Uh wait a second,
is that a thing? Yeah, that's a thing they called.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They called the ambonymity of the secondary because of the injuries.
The Legion of Whom? That's right, that's fantastic. Holy cow,
that was actually great. But this generation well done.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think you'll see Thomas Harper playing safety opposite Brian Branch.
Avante Maddox should be back. That will be primarily their
slock guy. I don't know what Rocky scenes damage was
in the Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He should be back.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But yeah, it'll be a meek And and tarry On
at the outside corner position.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So on on your boy, Addison. Did they ever?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Why does Brian Branch wear the green mouth guard in
his helmet.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They ever, they ever, It's.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
A it's like a it's something to do with like
a mental health thing that it's got some symbolic thing
with that. I don't know the exact details, but it's yeah,
it's it's a mental health thing that he wears in
his helmet, not obviously in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean even wish I knew the exact thing, but
even that much, that's late. Well done. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah,
he's a real Lions fan. Really, wasn't there. I thought
there used to be a rule you had to actually
wear the mouth guard.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, he wears one, he does, He wears one, and
then he's got the green one in his helmet. George
Furry never could play in the NFL because he just
wants to chew on his mouth guard, never used.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Its pickens has like two mouth guards dangling from his helmet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, so what has been the evolution for you all jokes?
Aside from a season in which it's potential regression and
all the new and then you watch you watch that
Packers game and it was a disaster, right yep, And
then some reporter, Hey, can't you just mimic Ben Johnson's offense.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What an awful question. That was terrible. You won five
or six cents.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What's that evolution been like as a kiddies fan seeing that,
Oh wait, we still have the head coach, we still
have the attitude. We got a bunch of high enders
that have played together for a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's that been like? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So, I think honestly, in Week one they just completely
got away from their identity. Really early on in that game,
they abandoned the run. And I was telling Alec this before,
but you know, the the run game has really evolved
with the new interior offensive line. They've gone away from
the outside zone almost completely, and they run duo now
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almost almost exclusively with you know, Tate Ratleige who you
mentioned earlier, and Pine Sewel on the right side. So
they've gotten back to like, really their identity. And I
think week one is very often a liar, right. You see,
weird anomalies happen in week one, and that's kind of
what I mounted week one two in Lambeau. You know,
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we got hit in the mouth early and never really
recovered and ever since then we've just gotten back to
who we are.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But if you won that game week one. Like I've
said for years, it's a harbinger.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I probably that's probably what I would have said. Yeah, yeah,
you're right, you're right. Was it a harbinger for the anyway? Three? Two?
Why are you doing that? Alex? I got him on
my side over here trying. I feel bad. He just
got booed by a whole restaurant. Oh I'm used to that. Yeah, no,
it's fine, it's fine. No.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
But and then with that, you set up the play
action pass. I think that's what you're going to see
a lot this weekend. You're going to see the intermediate
passing game to Saint Brown the Porta. I also think sneaky.
I told Alec this too, but I think this is
a sneaky.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jamison Williams game.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Okay, well I would have put him third on your
little hierarchy before.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And that's and that's what I was going to ask you.
So we were talking through that eye.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
As an outsider, as a Vikings fan, I see a
fair amount of the Lions. I kind of look at
him as being a one trick guy. Yeah, one trick guy.
That's very good at it. Because of to Alex's point,
how different these tools are in the toolbox.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why do you think Jamison Williams might have a day?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
So A couple of reasons, I think. I mean, first
of all, you're not wrong. I mean Jamison Williams, I
just read this had twenty seven percent of his routes
are essentially for love of the game routes where he's
running a go deep, you know, trying to work to
get the middle of the field open. But I think
that especially this week, you're going to see a little
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bit more zone coverage. You're going to see Jamison Williams
work middle of the field, and they're going to take
I think you can you heard it here. First, they're
going to take multiple deep shots to Jamison Williams in
this game out.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the vide Yeah, that that that would make sense. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
His first touchdown, the first touchdown of his career, yeah,
was a deep shot against the Vikings YEP at Ford Field.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Jason is with the Minnesota Vikings operation from three to
four under the assumption Christian Darisow, Bryan O'Neill, Jonathan Bernard
not returning, but plane Andrew Van Ginkhole playing hopefully markedly
more healthy than he was week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Obviously you know the Batman. You're an elite football mind, McCarthy, Jones,
Mason ole thing, what what, if anything do the Vikings
do that as an elite football mind has your attention.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I think the biggest thing, and you guys mentioned
Flores against Ben Johnson earlier and the ability that Floraes
has to show multiple looks.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think the and shout out to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Frank rag now by the way, local local guy here
from Chanassen.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, shut out Frank Raig now I miss him. Got
the restaurant on your side? Yeah, yeah, I worked the
crowd oftle Bit.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
But Graham glasnow Glasgow now playing center and having to
communicate with Golf with all of these exotic looks that
Forest is going to show them. If the Vikings can
put pressure on Golf and and get in his grill
and force a turnover too, that's how they win this game.
If they can't do that, yeah, they won't win, right.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So, and in the game, Kitties plus six Minnesota minus four.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And the turnover, I mean, the turnovers last year were
so much of the identity of this team, Like forcing turnovers.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Was a flora staple, yep.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And they haven't been able to do it at a
level that that they need to. So you're I'm with
you completely. Like I also, the red zone feels like
a huge area in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean obviously last year Week eight team, we saw
how that played out. But I think for the Vikings
offense to respond in the red zone because I expect
them to get there in this game, that for me,
it's huge.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well you can get them in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Part of my concern would be getting too just because
whether it's Aiden Hutchinson, he leaves the team with six sacks,
and I was talking with Pa off Air about it
because I have no idea who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Al Claudine, he's.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Been a terror on the field with five sacks. That
defensive front now healthy. We didn't have the opportunity to
face Aiden a year ago. Now we're going to get
a look at him and the whole crew.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's that's a nasty front.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And Week eighteen, by the way, just as you know,
for it from a memory standpoint, I mean it, you know,
forget the Darnald misses inside the ten. Yeah, that's part
of it. Flores defense brought it kept it close. If
they you could tell what they were doing, keep the
sucker closed for a while, and the elasticity with all
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of these twos and threes and legion of whom they've
been using for like two and a half months, it's
gonna pop.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well it did two weeks later.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It didn't pop in that game, but the Lions were
there for the taking. The Vikings just wouldn't take it
for myriad reasons. Yeah, wouldn't you agree with that? To Okay, now,
off that though in fairness, uh fighter fairness in Detroy
Lyons act. Hutchinson didn't play in that game. David Montgomery
didn't play in that game. Mcne me also anyway, well
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now they're all playing in this game, okay. So I'm
telling you it's just it's different, this thing that we're
getting off a bye this weekend. I mean, you got
to throw some haymakers early. Man, if you're a Minnesota
Vikings underdog in this game, you gotta throw haymakers early
and get their attention.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Because it's with goff.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's pitching, catch broup and then pitch and catch play action.
There's there's Jamison over the top. I mean they'll try
or maybe they'll.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And then you got to hear that song? Yeah, what
is the song? You you mentioned that I'm not singing
you know that? What is it? They play it after
every score?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And if the Packers and then the Bear's Ball down
Chicago be a supercharge?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They haven't actual written they do personal fights. You're not
getting me to sing, you know it? Though? Well just hey,
I'm not talking? Then what is it? All right, I'm
gonna find it. I'm finding a joke. Do you have the.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Copyright or do we have to like clear that up?
How does it work on the area?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And by the way, so did they come up with
this fight song like three years ago when they got good?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anyway, I do think Alee McNeil playing in this game
is I mean, obviously having Hutch is huge, but having
pressure interior, especially with Red Iron heroes, with the Minnesota
Vikings interior.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Just such a good song. It's actually not a good song.
I'm with you on Alee McNeil.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
He came back last week and I mean I kind
of forgot where he's where he is as like a
three technique Garussa passers.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The whole song has nine lines. He turned a charging
team that will not yield and when the blue and
silver wave. Stand and cheer the brave raw raw rob
go hard, win the game with honor. You will keep
your fame down the field. You gain a lion. That's
the worst worst fight song. That's an awful fight I've
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ever seen.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Every time they every time they score, they play it
and you'll be sitting in there and then they'll show
eminem and then they'll it's like.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
How did they not? It is miserable.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean, maybe they do do this when they're doing well,
stand and cheer the braid, but then it goes rah
rah rah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
How is it not amen? Ra amen ra amen roh.
Maybe it should be.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well, this is the problem though, because fans were wearing
bags over their heads and you never had to sing
it for so long. That's maybe when it's Brad Holmes
and all these draft picks, all these reups, new look lions.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You guys need a new fight song.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So I did the I did the rhyme for the
NFC North round table for you. Maybe maybe I maybe
I come up with something.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, you were a poet, and then at this stage
of the season, I regret having to read it, but
it was it was a nice thought, and uh, frankly,
is the first seven eight weeks have played out?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You were?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You were accurate?
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
From the songs called forward down the Field, Forward down
the I mean just think about that name, forward down
the Field?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Who wrote it? Hampton?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The other sis? This is why I did not want
to get into this, Like I was, I got.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Free wings and nachos. How has it got a free
table from Nick Madden for you and your dog?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So does the Is the punter raffle or something a
special to no problem?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What are you and kitties fans like?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Actually it's this Jack Fox playing about fourteen inside the
twenty zero touchbacks.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And by the way, Jack Fox, your punter.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I know Jack Fox well, he never had He has
not had a punt blocked in three hundred and sixteen
in his career, including the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He trying to do it right now, Okay, I mean
I think we have Johnny Hecker reincarnate here.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Four of five passing sixty one yards, all four completions
have led to first downs. But if that's not enough
for Jack Fox, he this season he has seven punts
inside the ten, first in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
He's a Pro Bowl guy. He's and then the kicker
is unbelievable as well.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
And then the special has been a little shape from
distance this year fifty and beyond a little little shaky.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But we we don't we don't kick, we don't believe
in field goals and Detroit, So what's that way to
hit him?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I do have a question. Was well done? This is
a serious question, Sure it does.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Why do you why do you think Brad Holmes and
the Lions have been so good in the draft?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, uh, I think a dedication to taking their guy.
They're obviously they've got a great, great room with scouting.
They they're just they're not afraid to go get their guy,
regardless of and because they've been hammered by position groups
like when they've when they got Gibbs at twelve and
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when they got Campbell at eighteen, and they were hammered
for it at the time, and they just they have
a process, they have their board and they're gonna go
get their guy. And you know, and to be honest,
I think, yeah, a lot of it's drafting, but you
got to give a lot of credit to the coaching
staff as well with developing these guys and freely with
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these young offensive linemen, and you know they're just they're
dedicated to getting their guy once they've gone through their
process and figured.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Out who their guys are.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And you know that obviously to the scouts, but they
have a very specific identity and they'll go get them.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
See.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And what I like about Alex's question and your response
is it's okay people, it's too low hanging of fruit
for people to be like, when you're that bad for
that long, this undoubtedly will happen. No, it won't, because
you can be in the Panay Soul spot, you can
be in the Mahogany spot, you can be in the
alman Ross Same Brown spot, which everybody skipped on for
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four rounds.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But you got you gotta be right, okay. So Gibbs, yes,
I mean Gibbs was the.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
First round pick, period, but they were like, no, he's
the No, we're not gonna jack around with this thing.
We're just gonna go up and get whatever you need
to get him.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yep, okay. So that that's kind of an outlier.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But what's not see with alman Ross Saint Brown in
twenty twenty one and Panasoul in twenty twenty one, uh
Alman Ross Saint Brown goes in the fourth round. Pinasoul
was the seventh overall pick in the draft. Right, Okay, well,
there there have been offensive linemen throughout the annals of
time that have been like, Wow, this guy, you can't
you can't lose with him, absolute stone cold cinch and
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then he's good. But he's Pinaysoul is the best offensive
lineman in the NFL in my opinion, So you got
to you gotta be in that spot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But you got to hit on him too. Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So now you you fast forward a little bit where
you get Mahogany in the sixth round of twenty twenty four,
rat Ledge a second rounder from this year, and uh
then like Dan Skipper fifth year, oh McNeil, third round.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Ground pick, there we go, hearby Joseph third round pick. Yeah,
some of these third and fourth round picks.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah, just turned into cornerstone extended players.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And brought Derek Barnes fifth round right fourth rounder in
twenty twenty one. Okay, but to land the plane here,
the point is, yes, you can be bad, have a
lot of picks and hit on most of them, and
that affords you the opportunity when you get good and
you start rolling a little bit. Well, now all of
a sudden, you can mix and match and you can amplify.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's like Mahogany maybe laid second, early third, but you
know what, three fifths of his skill set fits exactly
what we want to do.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You get him and it works, and you're not spending
your money on free agents who have been let go
by other teams. You are spending money on players you
know really well and who are really talented, which is
the best way to spend your money. And if you're
just buying in free agency at all times, you're literally
you're spending on guys with been hurt, who are older,
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who are not extended.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
By other teams.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That's why the draft and spending from the players you've
drafted is so sustainable. That's why I asked you the question,
because the success they've had in the draft is if
they continue it, they are outliers completely. But you can't
like argue against what they've done there. It's been unbelievably
impressive and it's built their team.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, and now the challenge, if you want to call
it that, it's it's it's almost an embarrassment of riches.
But now you've got to pay them all right, So
they're they're facing that right now, they're and they're doing
and they're doing a good job of if they're paying
them early, right, And that's the other thing that you
got to do when you when you land the plane.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now you got to reward those guys. Well, how about that?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yawn?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It early just like just random Friday news dump. It
almost felt like.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Earlier this week, like oh, no big deal, Aiden Hutchinson
forty five million a year, Yeah, buck eighty and I
think one forty something of it is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The way that I mean it's just maybe the most
remarkable thing about your team that I hope loses this
weekend is is it's like twenty four of the last
twenty eight draft picks.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean, that's astonishing.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I don't crazy, and I couldn't fathom how that'd be
even remotely sustainable that all the right names are locked
up for the next.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Three So since we've been talking this thing out, I mean,
I'm just gonna say this, and if somebody proved me wrong,
if they want, I need to find a draft that
was better than the Lions twenty twenty one draft. I
mean period. I'm talking the history of the NFL here.
I mean that that was unbelievable Gibbs and so twenty
twenty one would have been the Gibbs Draft with Laporta.
(22:30):
Laporta was saying down twenty twenty one is Sewell, yeah,
Pil Seul and Ross, Saint Brown, Ali McNeil, Derek Barnes,
Oh goodness, he was part of that. Kirby was twenty
twenty two, Branch was twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That gives Laporta. Drafts pretty good too, ye oh yeah,
with Campbell and everything. Yeah, gives laport all right, I.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Can't take any more of this. Okay, crazy hopefully a
best of LUCKI your squad this weekend. May God bless
you and your family. God bless Pah, God bless you.
And thank you very much for the Friday, and have
a good weekend. All right, Yeah, you too appreciate it.
Thank Guy's conclusion. That's alt of the earth right there.
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(23:14):
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Speaker 1 (24:21):
Hastein at FM one hundred point three k A m
into the pen ultimate It is the Friday foot try.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah you think they still yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think they're still listening, Jason. I mean great, I'm
getting a fair amount eye contact. It's the Friday Football
I love you, thanks really much.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That's not bad. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You See, Alex said when we do these Friday football fees,
I'm from Elk River to Monticello to Blaine, to chan
Hassen to Plymouth.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He says, funny how when you get to towns where
the median income is rather high, they're awfully quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And I'm like, come on, man, that was never so no, no, no, no,
that that's not the case. The team's putting forth.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
What I really said, the Friday football feast give me
the energy I need I need during a season like this.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's it's it's been essential.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, and it's and it's like the fact that people
care as much as they do to show up here
to be at Buffalo wil Wings to listen to the
stuff about this team.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
People.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
It's people should be proud about it, all right. Yeah,
I'm trying to get get.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Slowing the jumbo game.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Uh, Sunday with Dan Skipper, old Dan Skipper, maybe even
tight end Ross Dwelly. You know what they they used
to have a fullback from Nebraska named Corey Schlessinger. He's
long retired. Watch him bring him out of retirement, just
have him roll around with a cane. Why wouldn't you?
I mean Flores talked about it yesterday. I wasn't at
(25:53):
the press conference, young Allen was, but I mean Flores
was pressed on the jumbo stuff. Nine the noon started
pressing on that three week to go. We can talk
about that later. Uh, slowing the jumbo game? What what
do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I mean so much of it for me is just
physicality at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like I just you just I compared, or I said.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
The Chargers went big with two fullbacks Scott Matt Locke
and Tucker Fist, guys who I would trust to like
bring a furnit a couch up to my apartment.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And set it up. But I don't really, They're not
two men in a truck.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And and I just feel like for the Vikings to
stop this, they.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Need to be physical at the point, again I mentioned
Taki tom MANI but I really wouldn't mind seeing him.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You sacrifice some pass rush if you're.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Doing that, but at this point, I'm okay sacrificing a
little pass rush. And then, I mean, the problem that
the Vikings have run into is they've gotten big. Opponents
have gotten big. They run the football and then they
run play action off of it, and the Vikings are
so committed to stopping to run that you can get
them in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Seagulls game is a huge example, it is.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
And so I just I mean, I don't know, like
they have to prove that they can stop it, and
I want to And then after the fact, I'd like
to go through the film and watch how.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They tried to do that, because until they do.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It, you're gonna see it, especially with teams like the Lions,
who it's.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Part of their bread and butter.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, but I mean, you gang up on it, man,
And that's the play action to uh. To the other
Alabama gid to Williams over the top.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, it is now on our side where I tried
to get sneaky, and I'm thinking to myself, I wonder
how big of a loss C. J.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Ham was when he was on IR It is.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
He comes back, but still it's classic during during Ko's tenure,
he's elite on special teams, but he plays like twenty
percent of the snatch. Now pass protection plays into that.
To that end, where I was going with this is
Aaron Jones comes back and we just got to see
none of that last Thursday night. We didn't get see
much of anything against the Bulls. What is Aaron Jones
potentially mean in this game? As we've lauded al Quadine
(28:04):
Muhammad and his five sacks and Aiden Hutchinson and Alee
McNeil and all those guys, what does Aaron Jones mean
to JJ McCarthy showing some.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Of that improvement we're looking forward to seeing. Yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Aaron Jones is from a pass protection standpoint, because they're
gonna blitz Alexanzeloni and you're gonna need, like I wrote
it in the thing, pass protection from a running back.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It is not a passive thing.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I mean, Aaron Jon's gonna have to step up and
give it to Alex Azeloni and Jack Campbell or there's
gonna be interior pressure in JJ McCartney's face, which is
gonna make him flush out of the pocket, which is
what which is going to create mayhem. So it's huge
for Aaron Jones in that regard. It's also potentially huge
with Aaron Jones in the passing game one on one
against some of these linebackers and coverage like that is
(28:47):
another element. But I will say this, I still don't
understand why besides the fumbles, Jordan Mason is not getting
the ball because when he does in the run game,
he has been efficient. Yeah, and and Kevin O'Connell for
four years now, they have talked about we want to
be in second and five, we want to be ahead
of the sticks, we.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Want to run the football and be efficient.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Jordan Mason has done that this year when he hasn't
fumbled the football.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I just just don't go away from it like
that's that, you see.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
My only counter to that, and I'm not trying to
be new Rockney here would be state of offensive line.
Anytime anybody talks about I don't take anybody seriously with
running game commentary unless they layer the context for me.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But you have to.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Okay, but this year, I'm not talking totality of regime.
I'm talking this year. So I'm just spitballing here that
with whatever iteration of the offensive line was being used,
you know, one of those sixteen different offensive line combinations,
it's been a lot and Mason's and we talked about
this man either on or off the mic during training camp.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
His past protection's average a best, it's not it's not
been great.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, so now you got two towels, like, hey, you
got tails, you don't want to have towels.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But it's also when TJ. Hockinson is on the field,
they're likely to throw the football. When Josh Oliver's on the.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Field, they're likely likely to run the football.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
But one of the things that I would come back
with that is so, okay, you don't have starting offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's tough. So the answer, I guess is just a
drop back, which is harder for those guys. Aren't.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No, I'm not saying they're not running because of the
offense defensive lineman. I'm saying if they do run, the
per high percent or the favored percentages, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's gonna make it hard, there's no question. But a
Chargers deep and they were like thirtieth and runs rushing
success rate defensively leading into that game. And in my opinion,
that is where scheme enters the mix. That's where you
gotta get creative. I don't know if it's pulling guys,
I don't know if it's jet sweeps like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's where I can't argue with it.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Just for me, If the answer is, Okay, we don't
have our offensive lineman, so we can't run the football,
so we're just gonna drop back and make it hard
on the offensive lineman we already don't have a ton
of faith, then like that is not a recipe either.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Just it was like average offensive lineman, if I'm gonna
ask him to do two things, yes, hold up against
Aden Hutchinson or push forward in the run game. It
feels like that for the average o' lineman would be better. Now,
I will say, though, the incarnations.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Of this O line make it do make it difficult. Yeah,
you're where Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm going to try and ask Joe Huber to pull
and have connection with Brandell and O'Neil on the right,
I'm going to ask them to have some form of
synchronicity that they would never have the chance to build
over the course of practice.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So it's kind of like a damned if it is.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, but you know what, I'm a little bit on
the other Yeah, I mean with what you're saying, was
what we just said, I believe to be dead right. However,
with all due respect to the Minnesota Vikings, five times
over two games, I don't care if it's Huber, Brandell,
Jurgens with Fries with Ralphs with with Quessenberry or Todd Stucy,
(31:55):
I don't care who it is. How About two or
three times a game we see something where we're in
the running game where we're like, whoa, hey, okay, who
knew Joe Hubert can move?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And then maybe they take it away and you can't
do it again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That I can see that side of the equation, I guess,
or or like you could go six offensive line or
six offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Lineman, can you go a little? I mean, can you
when you're down?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
It's it's I don't know, maybe you put Walton, but
but it is it is like a to Nordo's point.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
This weekend, though, it is kind of a damned if
you do it.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It really is, because if you try to run the
football and it doesn't go well, like I mean, you're
in a tough spot. There's no doubt when you when
the offensive line, and that's really one of the headlines,
if not the headliner of this season. When the offensive
line is as makeshift as it's been, it is not
going to be pretty offensively.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Alex lewis the Athletic Nordo producer of Nine to Noon,
and I'm Paul Allen. Our final segment from Beautiful Buffalo
Wild wins. Jan Asen is next on Kapam. I mean,
(33:14):
they're just coming out of the woodwork right now. I mean,
well now, granted, Paul Charchian, you know that doesn't do
Vikings fanily.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh wow, we got a scold. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Paul Charchian's never done Vikings fan line. Norda has done
Vikings fan line since Corey tapped out. So I've never heard.
I've never heard a fan of an opposing team come
up to a Colosta fan line and not argue but
go back and forth with some trash talking is what
we do. And then right before I go all right,
(33:45):
here we go, and then Devin makes us quote hot
end quote the Lions fan being like, I'm calling.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I'm calling on Sunday, I'm calling on Sunday. I'm I
call twice.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Man, whether it was it was the guest at eleven
or now we got a call twice, the guys rolling
the packs.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Another kiddies fan rolls up and he's gonna call in.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And you make it sound like the biggest trouble the
Lions have right now is that Dan Campbell can't can't
hammer on Copenhagen during the middle of games anymore, that
this is just the most seamless well oiled machine in
the history.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Of the NFL. And but that's where we're at. Man,
We've been kicked, we're down a little bit, we're three
and four. The opposing team's fans, I'm calling fan line.
After we win, I might call twise just well done.
And that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
We got in to play today, We got to show
up this weekend and win or lose. It has to
be a fight that we engage in, that we actually
participate in and and show something that says that there's
still that spark.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's kind of the if not now when game maybe
for the Purple.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, I can't go that far against the Lions, but
I understand what you're saying, they because there still are
plenty of times where they, if not now win, But
this right here, it's a divisional game. So I understand
what you're saying. But we'll see what happens. Your lead
lede after you, I don't know, for a fifteenth consecutive game.
Right it was a dark, cold afternoon in Detroit, Michigan
(35:11):
in a non essential clause a split infinitive, and you
get to the point, sure, what do you think your
lead's going to be this weekend?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I mean this is his time, like,
this is the time to show. I don't know why
you're laughing. He does this show. He's got ten games.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Left and off of this season to prove to everybody,
to the fans of the writers, hey.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That he can stay healthy, He that he can be
accurate after he that he can get the ball out
of his hands. If he does that, then if I
cans have a sneaker chance.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And some people thinking the Buffalo Wild Wings Jan Hassen,
thank you very much for the good time.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Alan Lewis, Eric North Twist for what.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It is worth, yours truly absolutely loves doing the Friday
Football Feast and for nor Knows Govenant a Bustella and
Hannah a blessed and safe Halloween this evening. Jared Wells,
Nick Madden, Street Team, Devin Ward, everybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Y'all have a great weekend. Okay, thank you very much.
I'm Paul Allen. Talk to you this Sunday at noon
for the podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. We're listening back
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orgfan dot com,
Hey, Buffalo wild Wings. Jan Assenim, it's up to you
to do what you want to do. Here, I would say,
out of kindness, maybe a witness or two and or
a quasi raucous round of applause, or you can boo
him because we're three and four in his teams has
beating us five times in a row. This is a
(00:32):
friend of mine, has been a friend of mine for years.
He is not Johnny or Jason come lately when it
comes to Lions fandom. When he was a baby Jason
or a younger Jason, he cried after almost every loss
in two thousand and eight, and there were sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of them, and he was dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Ladies and gentlemen from the fighting city of Victoria, Farmington, Farmington,
Detroitons fan and a car carrying member of the Love
Covenant with the Great NFC North Debate that takes place
at the Great Minnesota Clomp together Jason Hatch. Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, Payson, Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That there's a there's a Lions fan back there. It's cheering.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, it's better than the first go around the At
one point there were six Lions fans in here, and
I wanted to say, where in the hell were all.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Of you and O eight when you were rowing sixteen?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But then I remembered we didn't start the show to
alone nine, so I wouldn't have known the feast anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, it's a great seeing you. I do find it
to be Jason, and it is good to have you here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, happy to be the Great NFC North Debate when
everything was kind of neutral. We didn't know anything and
there was so much new and we were thinking about
the potential regression of the lions. You weren't available for
the Great Debate.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hey, runner, now fast forward killed by Jaden Daniels Camp
find you with a freaking searchlight?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Can't we Teams five and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Two gibbs us out the gate for seventy eight Defense
is looking good with.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Healthy eight and here I am. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I think you skipped your own children's birthday party to
be here this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, you're now that your squad's five had to be
here today. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, nine and a half point favorites eight and a
half point fit whatever it is?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, why you got making nine and a half?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Nine good enough?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I mean eight and a half is probably fine right
up the number a little bit?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, I saw a stat that the Vikings haven't won
a game where that they're this big of an underdog
since twenty ten against the Eagles or something.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh, that was a very Tuesday night game. Yeah, wow,
was that Joe? That wasn't Joe Webb? Joe what? No, Yes,
it was Far.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They actually were sweating Far for like a finale up
to that thing, and it was supposed to be on
Christmas on like Sunday and the snow and everything.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So Joe Webb, yeah, I mean he had that rushing
touchdown near sign.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
On Winfield almost and it might have ended Mike Vick's
career with the Blitz.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But anyway, we're here to talk about.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
The You keep bringing up Yeah, you keep bringing up
eight MotorCity kidding, you keep bringing up eight. And I
know that feeling of going into a game knowing my
team's gonna lose. I can't help but think that's a
little bit what you got going on right now.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
You sucker.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, can you give me that twenty back that
I gave you for your for your nachos and your
wings and everything. I mean, got Nick Madden over here,
part of the straight team helping you get a table
and you're just coming here with daggers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
No, we want you to have daggers.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know why because our favorite football team and US
two we were dagger worthy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We're daggerworthy a little bit. We can handle ourselves.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, thick skin, covenant for the most part. And we're
we're ready. So your team's off of buy. So I'm
gonna ask you this to start, and then we will
just let uh, we'll let the journalist and or the
producer take it away from there, and I'll just kind
of rap their coattails.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Uh, Terry and Arnold? What do you think of him?
Great athlete, super handy. All right, that's cool. So anyway,
I'm just kidding, glad.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, I mean, well, and with the game, yeah, I
mean and you guys are already whining about penalties. I
saw JJ's press conference. He's already he's already whining and
the game hasn't even started yet, Like I.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Can't punch come on, come on, we've lost five in
a rower. But you see Brisker yesterday saying he Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cry what Yeah, I think kicking us well, I think
a meek follows JJ. Uh yeah, similar to what he
did in week eighteen last year, I think he's gonnall
him around quite a bit. I think Terry, maybe this
time we actually have a quarterback who can hit him.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
You're right, Sam Darnold was terrible. How many games they
win last urga season?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All of them? But the right?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
How is Sam doing this year? I've guys opened in
the end zone? How Sam doing this year? Sam doing
pretty well? Have we played Week eighteen yet? But anyway,
now everybody's in the world is catching strays right now.
Because you're bringing that out of me and Nordos, Let's
just have you going a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Let me say this.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
You said, how is to Arnold? He's a great athlete.
That's like when you're like, how is it? He's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
If I'm being honest, yeah, he's he's Uh, if he
was a.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Good player, he would have said he was a good player.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I'd much rather have DJ Reid back this week than
Terry on Arnold, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Is he coming back at some point?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah? Right, it'll it'll be. It'll be either next week.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Of the following. Dj'll be back. Awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Kirby Joseph isn't gonna play in this game. Court that
Dan Campbell, Okay, yeah, for sure. Brian branch is in
the mix though is.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, Branches back, probably move Rocky Scene to safety, and
I think he'll be Harpernett.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think it'll be Harper. Thomas Harper third year. I mean,
who knew he hasn't had an interception in his career.
Tackles Edge Legion had him going a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I think I got him going. Yeah, the Legion
of whom? Uh from the Tampa game? Uh wait a second,
is that a thing? Yeah, that's a thing they called.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They called the ambonymity of the secondary because of the injuries.
The Legion of Whom? That's right, that's fantastic. Holy cow,
that was actually great. But this generation well done.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think you'll see Thomas Harper playing safety opposite Brian Branch.
Avante Maddox should be back. That will be primarily their
slock guy. I don't know what Rocky scenes damage was
in the Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He should be back.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But yeah, it'll be a meek And and tarry On
at the outside corner position.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So on on your boy, Addison. Did they ever?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Why does Brian Branch wear the green mouth guard in
his helmet.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They ever, they ever, It's.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
A it's like a it's something to do with like
a mental health thing that it's got some symbolic thing
with that. I don't know the exact details, but it's yeah,
it's it's a mental health thing that he wears in
his helmet, not obviously in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean even wish I knew the exact thing, but
even that much, that's late. Well done. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah,
he's a real Lions fan. Really, wasn't there. I thought
there used to be a rule you had to actually
wear the mouth guard.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, he wears one, he does, He wears one, and
then he's got the green one in his helmet. George
Furry never could play in the NFL because he just
wants to chew on his mouth guard, never used.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Its pickens has like two mouth guards dangling from his helmet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay, so what has been the evolution for you all jokes?
Aside from a season in which it's potential regression and
all the new and then you watch you watch that
Packers game and it was a disaster, right yep, And
then some reporter, Hey, can't you just mimic Ben Johnson's offense.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What an awful question. That was terrible. You won five
or six cents.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What's that evolution been like as a kiddies fan seeing that,
Oh wait, we still have the head coach, we still
have the attitude. We got a bunch of high enders
that have played together for a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's that been like? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So, I think honestly, in Week one they just completely
got away from their identity. Really early on in that game,
they abandoned the run. And I was telling Alec this before,
but you know, the the run game has really evolved
with the new interior offensive line. They've gone away from
the outside zone almost completely, and they run duo now
(08:00):
almost almost exclusively with you know, Tate Ratleige who you
mentioned earlier, and Pine Sewel on the right side. So
they've gotten back to like, really their identity. And I
think week one is very often a liar, right. You see,
weird anomalies happen in week one, and that's kind of
what I mounted week one two in Lambeau. You know,
(08:20):
we got hit in the mouth early and never really
recovered and ever since then we've just gotten back to
who we are.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But if you won that game week one. Like I've
said for years, it's a harbinger.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I probably that's probably what I would have said. Yeah, yeah,
you're right, you're right. Was it a harbinger for the anyway? Three? Two?
Why are you doing that? Alex? I got him on
my side over here trying. I feel bad. He just
got booed by a whole restaurant. Oh I'm used to that. Yeah, no,
it's fine, it's fine. No.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
But and then with that, you set up the play
action pass. I think that's what you're going to see
a lot this weekend. You're going to see the intermediate
passing game to Saint Brown the Porta. I also think sneaky.
I told Alec this too, but I think this is
a sneaky.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jamison Williams game.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Okay, well I would have put him third on your
little hierarchy before.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And that's and that's what I was going to ask you.
So we were talking through that eye.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
As an outsider, as a Vikings fan, I see a
fair amount of the Lions. I kind of look at
him as being a one trick guy. Yeah, one trick guy.
That's very good at it. Because of to Alex's point,
how different these tools are in the toolbox.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Why do you think Jamison Williams might have a day?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
So A couple of reasons, I think. I mean, first
of all, you're not wrong. I mean Jamison Williams, I
just read this had twenty seven percent of his routes
are essentially for love of the game routes where he's
running a go deep, you know, trying to work to
get the middle of the field open. But I think
that especially this week, you're going to see a little
(09:44):
bit more zone coverage. You're going to see Jamison Williams
work middle of the field, and they're going to take
I think you can you heard it here. First, they're
going to take multiple deep shots to Jamison Williams in
this game out.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the vide Yeah, that that that would make sense. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
His first touchdown, the first touchdown of his career, yeah,
was a deep shot against the Vikings YEP at Ford Field.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Jason is with the Minnesota Vikings operation from three to
four under the assumption Christian Darisow, Bryan O'Neill, Jonathan Bernard
not returning, but plane Andrew Van Ginkhole playing hopefully markedly
more healthy than he was week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Obviously you know the Batman. You're an elite football mind, McCarthy, Jones,
Mason ole thing, what what, if anything do the Vikings
do that as an elite football mind has your attention.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I think the biggest thing, and you guys mentioned
Flores against Ben Johnson earlier and the ability that Floraes
has to show multiple looks.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think the and shout out to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Frank rag now by the way, local local guy here
from Chanassen.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, shut out Frank Raig now I miss him. Got
the restaurant on your side? Yeah, yeah, I worked the
crowd oftle Bit.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
But Graham glasnow Glasgow now playing center and having to
communicate with Golf with all of these exotic looks that
Forest is going to show them. If the Vikings can
put pressure on Golf and and get in his grill
and force a turnover too, that's how they win this game.
If they can't do that, yeah, they won't win, right.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So, and in the game, Kitties plus six Minnesota minus four.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And the turnover, I mean, the turnovers last year were
so much of the identity of this team, Like forcing turnovers.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Was a flora staple, yep.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And they haven't been able to do it at a
level that that they need to. So you're I'm with
you completely. Like I also, the red zone feels like
a huge area in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean obviously last year Week eight team, we saw
how that played out. But I think for the Vikings
offense to respond in the red zone because I expect
them to get there in this game, that for me,
it's huge.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well you can get them in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Part of my concern would be getting too just because
whether it's Aiden Hutchinson, he leaves the team with six sacks,
and I was talking with Pa off Air about it
because I have no idea who this guy is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Al Claudine, he's.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Been a terror on the field with five sacks. That
defensive front now healthy. We didn't have the opportunity to
face Aiden a year ago. Now we're going to get
a look at him and the whole crew.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's that's a nasty front.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And Week eighteen, by the way, just as you know,
for it from a memory standpoint, I mean it, you know,
forget the Darnald misses inside the ten. Yeah, that's part
of it. Flores defense brought it kept it close. If
they you could tell what they were doing, keep the
sucker closed for a while, and the elasticity with all
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of these twos and threes and legion of whom they've
been using for like two and a half months, it's
gonna pop.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well it did two weeks later.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It didn't pop in that game, but the Lions were
there for the taking. The Vikings just wouldn't take it
for myriad reasons. Yeah, wouldn't you agree with that? To Okay, now,
off that though in fairness, uh fighter fairness in Detroy
Lyons act. Hutchinson didn't play in that game. David Montgomery
didn't play in that game. Mcne me also anyway, well
(13:16):
now they're all playing in this game, okay. So I'm
telling you it's just it's different, this thing that we're
getting off a bye this weekend. I mean, you got
to throw some haymakers early. Man, if you're a Minnesota
Vikings underdog in this game, you gotta throw haymakers early
and get their attention.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Because it's with goff.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's pitching, catch broup and then pitch and catch play action.
There's there's Jamison over the top. I mean they'll try
or maybe they'll.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And then you got to hear that song? Yeah, what
is the song? You you mentioned that I'm not singing
you know that? What is it? They play it after
every score?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And if the Packers and then the Bear's Ball down
Chicago be a supercharge?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
They haven't actual written they do personal fights. You're not
getting me to sing, you know it? Though? Well just hey,
I'm not talking? Then what is it? All right, I'm
gonna find it. I'm finding a joke. Do you have the.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Copyright or do we have to like clear that up?
How does it work on the area?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And by the way, so did they come up with
this fight song like three years ago when they got good?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anyway, I do think Alee McNeil playing in this game
is I mean, obviously having Hutch is huge, but having
pressure interior, especially with Red Iron heroes, with the Minnesota
Vikings interior.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Just such a good song. It's actually not a good song.
I'm with you on Alee McNeil.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
He came back last week and I mean I kind
of forgot where he's where he is as like a
three technique Garussa passers.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The whole song has nine lines. He turned a charging
team that will not yield and when the blue and
silver wave. Stand and cheer the brave raw raw rob
go hard, win the game with honor. You will keep
your fame down the field. You gain a lion. That's
the worst worst fight song. That's an awful fight I've
(15:10):
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Every time they every time they score, they play it
and you'll be sitting in there and then they'll show
eminem and then they'll it's like.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
How did they not? It is miserable.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean, maybe they do do this when they're doing well,
stand and cheer the braid, but then it goes rah
rah rah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
How is it not amen? Ra amen ra amen roh.
Maybe it should be.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well, this is the problem though, because fans were wearing
bags over their heads and you never had to sing
it for so long. That's maybe when it's Brad Holmes
and all these draft picks, all these reups, new look lions.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You guys need a new fight song.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
So I did the I did the rhyme for the
NFC North round table for you. Maybe maybe I maybe
I come up with something.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, you were a poet, and then at this stage
of the season, I regret having to read it, but
it was it was a nice thought, and uh, frankly,
is the first seven eight weeks have played out?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You were?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You were accurate?
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
From the songs called forward down the Field, Forward down
the I mean just think about that name, forward down
the Field?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Who wrote it? Hampton?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The other sis? This is why I did not want
to get into this, Like I was, I got.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Free wings and nachos. How has it got a free
table from Nick Madden for you and your dog?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So does the Is the punter raffle or something a
special to no problem?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What are you and kitties fans like?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Actually it's this Jack Fox playing about fourteen inside the
twenty zero touchbacks.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And by the way, Jack Fox, your punter.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I know Jack Fox well, he never had He has
not had a punt blocked in three hundred and sixteen
in his career, including the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He trying to do it right now, Okay, I mean
I think we have Johnny Hecker reincarnate here.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Four of five passing sixty one yards, all four completions
have led to first downs. But if that's not enough
for Jack Fox, he this season he has seven punts
inside the ten, first in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
He's a Pro Bowl guy. He's and then the kicker
is unbelievable as well.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
And then the special has been a little shape from
distance this year fifty and beyond a little little shaky.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But we we don't we don't kick, we don't believe
in field goals and Detroit, So what's that way to
hit him?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I do have a question. Was well done? This is
a serious question, Sure it does.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Why do you why do you think Brad Holmes and
the Lions have been so good in the draft?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, uh, I think a dedication to taking their guy.
They're obviously they've got a great, great room with scouting.
They they're just they're not afraid to go get their guy,
regardless of and because they've been hammered by position groups
like when they've when they got Gibbs at twelve and
(17:57):
when they got Campbell at eighteen, and they were hammered
for it at the time, and they just they have
a process, they have their board and they're gonna go
get their guy. And you know, and to be honest,
I think, yeah, a lot of it's drafting, but you
got to give a lot of credit to the coaching
staff as well with developing these guys and freely with
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these young offensive linemen, and you know they're just they're
dedicated to getting their guy once they've gone through their
process and figured.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Out who their guys are.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And you know that obviously to the scouts, but they
have a very specific identity and they'll go get them.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
See.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And what I like about Alex's question and your response
is it's okay people, it's too low hanging of fruit
for people to be like, when you're that bad for
that long, this undoubtedly will happen. No, it won't, because
you can be in the Panay Soul spot, you can
be in the Mahogany spot, you can be in the
alman Ross Same Brown spot, which everybody skipped on for
(18:56):
four rounds.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But you got you gotta be right, okay. So Gibbs, yes,
I mean Gibbs was the.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
First round pick, period, but they were like, no, he's
the No, we're not gonna jack around with this thing.
We're just gonna go up and get whatever you need
to get him.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yep, okay. So that that's kind of an outlier.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But what's not see with alman Ross Saint Brown in
twenty twenty one and Panasoul in twenty twenty one, uh
Alman Ross Saint Brown goes in the fourth round. Pinasoul
was the seventh overall pick in the draft. Right, Okay, well,
there there have been offensive linemen throughout the annals of
time that have been like, Wow, this guy, you can't
you can't lose with him, absolute stone cold cinch and
(19:34):
then he's good. But he's Pinaysoul is the best offensive
lineman in the NFL in my opinion, So you got
to you gotta be in that spot.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But you got to hit on him too. Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So now you you fast forward a little bit where
you get Mahogany in the sixth round of twenty twenty four,
rat Ledge a second rounder from this year, and uh
then like Dan Skipper fifth year, oh McNeil, third round.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Ground pick, there we go, hearby Joseph third round pick. Yeah,
some of these third and fourth round picks.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah, just turned into cornerstone extended players.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And brought Derek Barnes fifth round right fourth rounder in
twenty twenty one. Okay, but to land the plane here,
the point is, yes, you can be bad, have a
lot of picks and hit on most of them, and
that affords you the opportunity when you get good and
you start rolling a little bit. Well, now all of
a sudden, you can mix and match and you can amplify.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's like Mahogany maybe laid second, early third, but you
know what, three fifths of his skill set fits exactly
what we want to do.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You get him and it works, and you're not spending
your money on free agents who have been let go
by other teams. You are spending money on players you
know really well and who are really talented, which is
the best way to spend your money. And if you're
just buying in free agency at all times, you're literally
you're spending on guys with been hurt, who are older,
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who are not extended.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
By other teams.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That's why the draft and spending from the players you've
drafted is so sustainable. That's why I asked you the question,
because the success they've had in the draft is if
they continue it, they are outliers completely. But you can't
like argue against what they've done there. It's been unbelievably
impressive and it's built their team.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, and now the challenge, if you want to call
it that, it's it's it's almost an embarrassment of riches.
But now you've got to pay them all right, So
they're they're facing that right now, they're and they're doing
and they're doing a good job of if they're paying
them early, right, And that's the other thing that you
got to do when you when you land the plane.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now you got to reward those guys. Well, how about that?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yawn?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It early just like just random Friday news dump. It
almost felt like.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Earlier this week, like oh, no big deal, Aiden Hutchinson
forty five million a year, Yeah, buck eighty and I
think one forty something of it is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The way that I mean it's just maybe the most
remarkable thing about your team that I hope loses this
weekend is is it's like twenty four of the last
twenty eight draft picks.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I mean, that's astonishing.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I don't crazy, and I couldn't fathom how that'd be
even remotely sustainable that all the right names are locked
up for the next.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Three So since we've been talking this thing out, I mean,
I'm just gonna say this, and if somebody proved me wrong,
if they want, I need to find a draft that
was better than the Lions twenty twenty one draft. I
mean period. I'm talking the history of the NFL here.
I mean that that was unbelievable Gibbs and so twenty
twenty one would have been the Gibbs Draft with Laporta.
(22:30):
Laporta was saying down twenty twenty one is Sewell, yeah,
Pil Seul and Ross, Saint Brown, Ali McNeil, Derek Barnes,
Oh goodness, he was part of that. Kirby was twenty
twenty two, Branch was twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That gives Laporta. Drafts pretty good too, ye oh yeah,
with Campbell and everything. Yeah, gives laport all right, I.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Can't take any more of this. Okay, crazy hopefully a
best of LUCKI your squad this weekend. May God bless
you and your family. God bless Pah, God bless you.
And thank you very much for the Friday, and have
a good weekend. All right, Yeah, you too appreciate it.
Thank Guy's conclusion. That's alt of the earth right there.
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Speaker 1 (24:21):
Hastein at FM one hundred point three k A m
into the pen ultimate It is the Friday foot try.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah you think they still yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think they're still listening, Jason. I mean great, I'm
getting a fair amount eye contact. It's the Friday Football
I love you, thanks really much.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That's not bad. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You See, Alex said when we do these Friday football fees,
I'm from Elk River to Monticello to Blaine, to chan
Hassen to Plymouth.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He says, funny how when you get to towns where
the median income is rather high, they're awfully quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And I'm like, come on, man, that was never so no, no, no, no,
that that's not the case. The team's putting forth.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
What I really said, the Friday football feast give me
the energy I need I need during a season like this.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's it's it's been essential.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, and it's and it's like the fact that people
care as much as they do to show up here
to be at Buffalo wil Wings to listen to the
stuff about this team.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
People.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
It's people should be proud about it, all right. Yeah,
I'm trying to get get.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Slowing the jumbo game.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Uh, Sunday with Dan Skipper, old Dan Skipper, maybe even
tight end Ross Dwelly. You know what they they used
to have a fullback from Nebraska named Corey Schlessinger. He's
long retired. Watch him bring him out of retirement, just
have him roll around with a cane. Why wouldn't you?
I mean Flores talked about it yesterday. I wasn't at
(25:53):
the press conference, young Allen was, but I mean Flores
was pressed on the jumbo stuff. Nine the noon started
pressing on that three week to go. We can talk
about that later. Uh, slowing the jumbo game? What what
do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I mean so much of it for me is just
physicality at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like I just you just I compared, or I said.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
The Chargers went big with two fullbacks Scott Matt Locke
and Tucker Fist, guys who I would trust to like
bring a furnit a couch up to my apartment.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And set it up. But I don't really, They're not
two men in a truck.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And and I just feel like for the Vikings to
stop this, they.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Need to be physical at the point, again I mentioned
Taki tom MANI but I really wouldn't mind seeing him.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You sacrifice some pass rush if you're.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Doing that, but at this point, I'm okay sacrificing a
little pass rush. And then, I mean, the problem that
the Vikings have run into is they've gotten big. Opponents
have gotten big. They run the football and then they
run play action off of it, and the Vikings are
so committed to stopping to run that you can get
them in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Seagulls game is a huge example, it is.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
And so I just I mean, I don't know, like
they have to prove that they can stop it, and
I want to And then after the fact, I'd like
to go through the film and watch how.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They tried to do that, because until they do.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It, you're gonna see it, especially with teams like the Lions,
who it's.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Part of their bread and butter.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, but I mean, you gang up on it, man,
And that's the play action to uh. To the other
Alabama gid to Williams over the top.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, it is now on our side where I tried
to get sneaky, and I'm thinking to myself, I wonder
how big of a loss C. J.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Ham was when he was on IR It is.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
He comes back, but still it's classic during during Ko's tenure,
he's elite on special teams, but he plays like twenty
percent of the snatch. Now pass protection plays into that.
To that end, where I was going with this is
Aaron Jones comes back and we just got to see
none of that last Thursday night. We didn't get see
much of anything against the Bulls. What is Aaron Jones
potentially mean in this game? As we've lauded al Quadine
(28:04):
Muhammad and his five sacks and Aiden Hutchinson and Alee
McNeil and all those guys, what does Aaron Jones mean
to JJ McCarthy showing some.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Of that improvement we're looking forward to seeing. Yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Aaron Jones is from a pass protection standpoint, because they're
gonna blitz Alexanzeloni and you're gonna need, like I wrote
it in the thing, pass protection from a running back.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It is not a passive thing.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I mean, Aaron Jon's gonna have to step up and
give it to Alex Azeloni and Jack Campbell or there's
gonna be interior pressure in JJ McCartney's face, which is
gonna make him flush out of the pocket, which is
what which is going to create mayhem. So it's huge
for Aaron Jones in that regard. It's also potentially huge
with Aaron Jones in the passing game one on one
against some of these linebackers and coverage like that is
(28:47):
another element. But I will say this, I still don't
understand why besides the fumbles, Jordan Mason is not getting
the ball because when he does in the run game,
he has been efficient. Yeah, and and Kevin O'Connell for
four years now, they have talked about we want to
be in second and five, we want to be ahead
of the sticks, we.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Want to run the football and be efficient.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Jordan Mason has done that this year when he hasn't
fumbled the football.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I just just don't go away from it like
that's that, you see.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
My only counter to that, and I'm not trying to
be new Rockney here would be state of offensive line.
Anytime anybody talks about I don't take anybody seriously with
running game commentary unless they layer the context for me.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But you have to.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Okay, but this year, I'm not talking totality of regime.
I'm talking this year. So I'm just spitballing here that
with whatever iteration of the offensive line was being used,
you know, one of those sixteen different offensive line combinations,
it's been a lot and Mason's and we talked about
this man either on or off the mic during training camp.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
His past protection's average a best, it's not it's not
been great.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, so now you got two towels, like, hey, you
got tails, you don't want to have towels.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But it's also when TJ. Hockinson is on the field,
they're likely to throw the football. When Josh Oliver's on the.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Field, they're likely likely to run the football.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
But one of the things that I would come back
with that is so, okay, you don't have starting offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's tough. So the answer, I guess is just a
drop back, which is harder for those guys. Aren't.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
No, I'm not saying they're not running because of the
offense defensive lineman. I'm saying if they do run, the
per high percent or the favored percentages, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's gonna make it hard, there's no question. But a
Chargers deep and they were like thirtieth and runs rushing
success rate defensively leading into that game. And in my opinion,
that is where scheme enters the mix. That's where you
gotta get creative. I don't know if it's pulling guys,
I don't know if it's jet sweeps like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's where I can't argue with it.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Just for me, If the answer is, Okay, we don't
have our offensive lineman, so we can't run the football,
so we're just gonna drop back and make it hard
on the offensive lineman we already don't have a ton
of faith, then like that is not a recipe either.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Just it was like average offensive lineman, if I'm gonna
ask him to do two things, yes, hold up against
Aden Hutchinson or push forward in the run game. It
feels like that for the average o' lineman would be better. Now,
I will say, though, the incarnations.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Of this O line make it do make it difficult. Yeah,
you're where Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm going to try and ask Joe Huber to pull
and have connection with Brandell and O'Neil on the right,
I'm going to ask them to have some form of
synchronicity that they would never have the chance to build
over the course of practice.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So it's kind of like a damned if it is.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, but you know what, I'm a little bit on
the other Yeah, I mean with what you're saying, was
what we just said, I believe to be dead right. However,
with all due respect to the Minnesota Vikings, five times
over two games, I don't care if it's Huber, Brandell,
Jurgens with Fries with Ralphs with with Quessenberry or Todd Stucy,
(31:55):
I don't care who it is. How About two or
three times a game we see something where we're in
the running game where we're like, whoa, hey, okay, who
knew Joe Hubert can move?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And then maybe they take it away and you can't
do it again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That I can see that side of the equation, I guess,
or or like you could go six offensive line or
six offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Lineman, can you go a little? I mean, can you
when you're down?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
It's it's I don't know, maybe you put Walton, but
but it is it is like a to Nordo's point.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
This weekend, though, it is kind of a damned if
you do it.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It really is, because if you try to run the
football and it doesn't go well, like I mean, you're
in a tough spot. There's no doubt when you when
the offensive line, and that's really one of the headlines,
if not the headliner of this season. When the offensive
line is as makeshift as it's been, it is not
going to be pretty offensively.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Alex lewis the Athletic Nordo producer of Nine to Noon,
and I'm Paul Allen. Our final segment from Beautiful Buffalo
Wild wins. Jan Asen is next on Kapam. I mean,
(33:14):
they're just coming out of the woodwork right now. I mean,
well now, granted, Paul Charchian, you know that doesn't do
Vikings fanily.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh wow, we got a scold. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Paul Charchian's never done Vikings fan line. Norda has done
Vikings fan line since Corey tapped out. So I've never heard.
I've never heard a fan of an opposing team come
up to a Colosta fan line and not argue but
go back and forth with some trash talking is what
we do. And then right before I go all right,
(33:45):
here we go, and then Devin makes us quote hot
end quote the Lions fan being like, I'm calling.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I'm calling on Sunday, I'm calling on Sunday. I'm I
call twice.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Man, whether it was it was the guest at eleven
or now we got a call twice, the guys rolling
the packs.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Another kiddies fan rolls up and he's gonna call in.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And you make it sound like the biggest trouble the
Lions have right now is that Dan Campbell can't can't
hammer on Copenhagen during the middle of games anymore, that
this is just the most seamless well oiled machine in
the history.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Of the NFL. And but that's where we're at. Man,
We've been kicked, we're down a little bit, we're three
and four. The opposing team's fans, I'm calling fan line.
After we win, I might call twise just well done.
And that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
We got in to play today, We got to show
up this weekend and win or lose. It has to
be a fight that we engage in, that we actually
participate in and and show something that says that there's
still that spark.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's kind of the if not now when game maybe
for the Purple.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, I can't go that far against the Lions, but
I understand what you're saying, they because there still are
plenty of times where they, if not now win, But
this right here, it's a divisional game. So I understand
what you're saying. But we'll see what happens. Your lead
lede after you, I don't know, for a fifteenth consecutive game.
Right it was a dark, cold afternoon in Detroit, Michigan
(35:11):
in a non essential clause a split infinitive, and you
get to the point, sure, what do you think your
lead's going to be this weekend?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I mean this is his time, like,
this is the time to show. I don't know why
you're laughing. He does this show. He's got ten games.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Left and off of this season to prove to everybody,
to the fans of the writers, hey.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That he can stay healthy, He that he can be
accurate after he that he can get the ball out
of his hands. If he does that, then if I
cans have a sneaker chance.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
And some people thinking the Buffalo Wild Wings Jan Hassen,
thank you very much for the good time.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Alan Lewis, Eric North Twist for what.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It is worth, yours truly absolutely loves doing the Friday
Football Feast and for nor Knows Govenant a Bustella and
Hannah a blessed and safe Halloween this evening. Jared Wells,
Nick Madden, Street Team, Devin Ward, everybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Y'all have a great weekend. Okay, thank you very much.
I'm Paul Allen. Talk to you this Sunday at noon
for the podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. We're listening back
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