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November 7, 2025 • 45 mins
Hour 2 of the Friday Football Feast begins with the weekly IHoP segment, then the Feast transistions to Viks Bits where PA, Nordo, and Alec Lewis talk about Jalen Redmond's journey to the NFL.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
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(01:24):
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ELPs this weekend, everybody else involved, and thank you very
much for coming out to Buffalo Wild Wings Elk River

(01:46):
for the Friday Football Feast. This portion of the show,
this segment we we call ihop. We dedicated to the
decade and a half a co host of the Friday
Football Feast, Paul Charchi him in honor of Paul, I
hop in honor of Paul and Paul.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Listening for Paul, Saint George Way. Paul was always a
big Elk River guy, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, because they're they're close to rest stops for those
for those who are traveling abroad.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You you you started to talk there.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I'm like, I don't know what, rest stops all
over the place, A lot of rest stops in Utah. Yeah,
he is a rest stops. Never forgive me for some
of those rats. All right, Okay, Hey, it's either raining
incredibly hard or hailing on the roof of Buffalo wild
wings up river, or we got some audio problem that
you know what j Dubb Jared wells. He's extraordinary when

(02:43):
it comes to engineering. You'll either fix it or you
won't be able to hear. So we'll have to yell
one of the two things. But in honor of Paul,
what we do is, uh, we take offensive positions and
we we we rotate them weekly and and it's basically
just a touchdown only bit designed to pay homage to

(03:05):
the fantasy football focus of nine to noon and nine
to noon and a lot of people who have followed
him all of his career. So we are to running backs.
We've gone quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, tight ends, again,
back to wide receivers, and you're winning. And now we're
at running backs six healthy lead, six points not really

(03:26):
six points for rushing or receiving touchdown, four points for
a passing touchdown. And now with running backs into this week,
I have thirty six points after t Higgins last time
we got together at a couple of touchdowns. Nordo has
twenty eight, only eight behind. I mean, shoot, we've still
got a lot of weeks to go. It's a two
score lead, and young Alex has twenty two. He got

(03:48):
blank with Jamar Chase last week. I'm getting smoked thirty
six twenty two. Alex goes first. Which running back you
would you like to use this week? In I hop
like fashion? And why yeah, I'm taking James Cook. Uh,
Dalvin Cook's brother of the Buffalo Bills. This guy is

(04:09):
is really really good, and I don't think that anybody
thought that James was a was gonna be able to
be as explosive as his brother. And there are times
watching him where it's like this guy really has it.
They do a great job with heavy personnel, and they're
playing the Miami Dolphins, which are a an abject disaster

(04:30):
like that, and it's not just on the field.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You hear some stuff about that building and how things
are going on in that building, and uh, you start
to be real thankful that you're not covering the Miami
Dolphins on a day to day basis James Cook like
Buffalo Bills. That's that's my pick, and I'm sure you'll
extend your lead.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know what. I'm gonna go second because I want
to go third because I think this may require five
minutes of explanation or maybe just a couple of minutes.
And I gotcha, shut up and up and we move forward.
You guys think I'm crazy, Well, we're going to figure
out exactly what's up the method of the madness here
with your pick for me? Uh, I'm gonna take Jonathan

(05:10):
Taylor running back for the Indianapolis Colts games in Berlin.
That's the Berlin clip I think with the Falcons. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Can you imagine next year the Vikings I'm sure will
play in Madrid in Australia.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, I think they're gonna go Madrid, Australia back to
back and then a short week short no, no, the
short week is the third one and the commissioner as
an announcement. Yet they're having a game in Manila, Thursday
night game. Yeah, you're gonna go Berlin, Brisbane, Manila.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'll do a profile in many pack you out to
try to get get the budget into the athletic now
all right.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
How long will it take O'Connell to start looking to
the media going thirteen slaves.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Kevin O'Connell's hairline and minor will be equally equally moving back.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So, I mean, I got you guys gonna leave me
Jonathan Dally, Jonathan Taylor got to take him. He's on
the table. We're leaving Jamiir Gibbs on the tap. I mean,
we're leaving some unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
John Robinson in that same Derek by the way, Yeah right,
but it's it's bad for the image of the show.
If we were gonna pick Derrick Henry, well, yeah, in
particular week. You know what is good for the image
of the show the player you're taking.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
All right, So here's here's my mindset behind it.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, all right, well I'm I'm taking Vikings running back
Jordan Mason.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hey, Jordan Mason for two touchdowns. Mason, let's call it,
all right. Let let's let me let me offer, let
me offer a feena fairness and Nordo act. Okay, you
are now hoping Aaron Jones does not play. And here's
why no, Because when Jones plays, Mason snaps way down.

(06:51):
Mason never scores when Aaron Jones plays.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
But he's he's still going to get in and you've
seen from a run standpoint, you have seen that Jordan
May still gets the Lieon's share of run attempts when
both are healthy and both are playing. Now we love
what Aaron joneson and maybe in the end, I'm picking
the wrong guy and I'll be happy a week from
now where I had the right idea, but it was
Jones instead of Mason.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
The game.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
The Ravens have allowed ten rushing touchdowns in ten games,
and this is a feast where it's ripe with opportunity
for the running backs. Their defense, I know, is dictated
things with takeaway specifically the last few games talked about
a healthier secondary, that defensive front can be had, and
the issue that plays into this game.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
This is all my tout of Jordan Mason or my
tout of a Vike. It's Jordan.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
It's gonna be Mason into the end zone this weekend,
and you can write that down now.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I did.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
But it's gonna be dictated by game flow as whether
it was Greenway you and I talking about it yesterday.
This is not a team that at any point you're
chasing in a ten point deficit. If they're running downhill
and Lamar makes a couple of plays, don't freak out.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
We're not gonna beat them forty to six.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
But you can't sit at home and allow Lamar and
that offense to dictate things.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So running the ball.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Just as important as it was a week ago against
the Kiddies, is almost as vital, if not more so.
This hand at home against the Ravens, and the Ravens
defensive front can absolutely be had. I don't care if
Hamilton's in the box. I know we've talked about a
speed advantage for the Vikings, and that ain't Mason. That's
certainly Aaron Jones. So I like to catch a run
game and some similar aspects of how we attack Detroit.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But I truly believe, and a little bit.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Of a bit as part of this too, the Vikings
are gonna be on the doorstep in this game, and
it's gonna be second in goal, and head coach Kevin
O'Connell is a guy that learns from moments, and he's
gonna learn from a chance when he could have ran
Jordan Mason potentially into the end zone to kill some
clock or score a touchdown, I should say, or.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Kill some clock. He chose to pass it, who was incomplete?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
The Vikings will be at the doorstep on Sunday and
he will have learned from that mistake, and in an
attempt to kill the clock, Jordan Mason will find his
way into the end zone one or two touchdowns from
the running backs on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I love it. I absolutely love it because Jordan Mason.
John Robinson on the table did that. Jordan Mason, what
you're doing needs a good game, all right, Jordan Mason
needs a good game. Okay. The whole world saw him
get trucked in the last game on the pass protection
right into the quarterback. Yep. The whole world saw two

(09:23):
broken plays where McCarthy turns around, he's like, what happened? Happened? Hello?
And Mason tapped himself once like my bad might have
been Mason twice. I think it was Mason.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
The way that Wes Phillips off the coordinator, talked about it,
it did sound like that was a running back up responsibility.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, So that means, with all due respect, we're not
in our playbook. We're not in our playbook. Okay. And
you know what if that is the case, my man,
with all due respect, you're not Adrian Peterson. Adrian Adrian
was always accused or it always would be pointed out
that he wouldn't get into his playbomk, that studying the

(10:05):
whole thing didn't really matter that much. Daydream. That's why
they never threw to him. That's why his first year
here in two thousand and seven, he came off the
field every third down and they put Chester Taylor in.
Why pass protection, that's right, what goes into third down?
So when you're botching two plays where the quarterback turns

(10:27):
around in the newest, biggest game of the season, it's like, Lapp,
where is he okay? And that happens twice. You're you're
not set the right way in pass protection. They can't
throw to you in the first place because you ain't
great at that. Jordan Mason needs a big game this weekend.
From monitoring the injury report with the Jones not practicing

(10:49):
then going limited, we'll see what happens today and off
what to Aaron either said via to you guys or
my drive buys or O'Connell with the post game at
Ford Field, you know he we've heard it before, alec Oh, yeah,
I feel great, You'll be fine. I'll be fine, y'all.
And then they don't play, So like, what's your what's
your vibe with Aaron Jones this weekend?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, I'll be curious if today he's a
full participant, and if so, I would expect him to
give it a go. I do regardless, I would expect
him to be a little hampered. The fact he didn't
return in that game was telling to me, considering how
much Juicy gave in that game. Yeah, I I mean,
I I will fully admit that after what I saw

(11:31):
from him earlier in the year and then he goes
out with the injury in him. With him returning, I
was pretty skeptical that he could look like the.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Prime Aaron Jones.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
That he looked like that, you know that I loved
of him in Green Bay, and.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
He looked like that. I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
It was the first run of the game, an eleven
yard run to the right. Then the first third down
of the game, he catches the screen pass that converts
a very big third down, and he gave I mean,
he just gave so much energy, injected so much energy
to the offense that if he cannot give you that
to the conversation, it falls on Jordan Mason to be

(12:08):
the guy that you acquired and paid from the forty
nine ers. They just they absolutely desperately need that to
be the case. So I with Aaron Jones, if I
was a betting person right now, I bet that he
is active and plays, But how much can he give
you like I have, I would I would be I'd

(12:30):
have questions about that.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, my question about him leaving the game and not returning,
I feel like maybe there's a part of that where
he had just returned from ir and it's kind of
the game maybe they played a year ago, which would
necessitate bringing in Jordan Mason. Is the fact that they
did everything they could to keep three to three healthy
a year ago, and they knew and as the as
the tire treads began to wear down, you start to

(12:53):
see you saw points where cam Akers in some ways
was a little bit more explosive towards the end of
the season than Aaron Jones. That should never happen, right,
So I wonder if in some ways, and we've seen
it with other players, just how protective they've been or
conservative when it relates to an injury. It's like, Okay,
you know, I need Aaron Jones in this game, certainly,
but I also need Aaron Jones in December.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So do we chill on Aaron for.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
The rest of the day, but then also give him,
you know, for the sake of a game like this
and again for the for the next nine games of
the regular season.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
The injury thing in all of the conversation, whether it's
social media or whatever, and people you know, talking about
the injuries is somewhat I mean, I don't want to
say like silly, but you have a team here that
is I mean, players are are I mean, the Vikings
have very few season ending injuries.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
A lot of these guys have come back, yep.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And when they've come back, they look sharp, they do,
and and like you know, you look around the league,
there are a lot of places where you know, players
are are done for the year.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Their season is kind of torpedoed as a result. So
while they brought Ault back right and now he's done
for the years, so well, wow, he's out for the year.
I think he's out for the years. Brutal.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So like, while I while I understand a lot of people,
you know, you want guys on the field. You're curious
why aren't they back or whatever? Like I, I, you know,
you have a team right now that besides Josh Oliver,
besides Jeff Okuda, it's and and Ryan Kelly, who everybody
even internally they knew there was injury probability with Ryan Kelly.
It's a team that's that's fairly healthy right now, right

(14:30):
now and right now in week ten.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
The r right, but I mean seriously, the sixteen to
seventeen offensive line combination. Bit, I mean that that's difficult
for Bear Bryant right right. And that's my point.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So like and and obviously it's tough when injuries occur,
but they're going to occur. And if you're just speaking
about the medical staff in particular, like their job is
to think long term duration of the season, maximize odds
that a player can play instead of seven games, fourteen games,
and I I.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Feel like they've gotten a place.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Where you got Andrew van Gigglebeck healthy, Brian O'Neal is
active and healthy, Christian Darisol played full snaps. Blake Cashman, yes,
he was put on IR. It was tough not to
have him, but he comes back and he looks like
the the ultimate Blake Cashman. So I you know, it's
unfortunate in the moment when you don't have a ton
of your guys. But the job at that point of

(15:22):
the medical staff is to think long term, big picture,
and they've done that.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
They have and I think maybe there's a part of
that with Aaron Jones, which leads me back to my
dumb roube homerrific born in Mancato.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Take well, wait McCarthy too, are you going down the
road to JJ But but McCarthy's just another terrific example.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
We're not going to, uh, we're not going to put
a guy in a spot.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Where he can't perform. We're going for go ahead or geez,
holy can, we're.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Going to We're gonna put this route again, whether it's
for this weekend or it's for December, we're gonna make
sure we have our guys. And so this weekend, like
I would actually trend, he he went from did not
practice or did not participate to limited it whether he's
limited or full. Today, I would actually believe that we'll
see Aaron Jones on Sunday. But regardless of what we
see from Aaron Jones, I think this isn't a spot

(16:14):
where Jordan Mason made some mistakes. He needs to have
a good game. Heads not in the playbook. We're going
to limit his snaps. I think out of necessity, they're
going to still require a bunch of work.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
From Aaron Jones on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
And if they're putting a spot in the red zone
where we need to grind one in, uh, maybe it
ends up being a Jones to the boundary and it's
a race to the finish line.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
But I just think two.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Seven will have myriad chances this weekend to put his
stamp on things.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And that's why I'm just I'm feeling the flow.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I'm gonna I want to see two seven with a
touchdown or two this week.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I didn't realize we were still on IHOP. I didn't
realize Mason's at at the time. I was out, what
are you, Michael katz Hey, the producer needs is three percent? Okay?
You love the football team, you love retributions, stories, Yes,
comeback stories, don't call it a comeback. Jordan Mason has
never been gone.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
He needs he needs a good game, and I think
that's how you coined a PA and you're dead accurate.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
He could use a big game.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Lucked out of a fumble one week against the Steelers,
he did not look out of a fumble against Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
We have not seen.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
And then this gets into the weeds of you know,
we saw them establish the run with that drive in
the third quarter in London against the Browns. Loving some
of those boundary runs and Mason can be productive maybe
with reps in rhythm.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, and that needs to happen in games.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Like this where we can get raced out of a
gym pretty quick. When the Chargers hold the ball for
forty minutes, the Ravens very much with that run game
can hold.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
The ball forever.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Let's dictate the pace and I think Jordan Mason needs
to be a part of that story.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Last time we spent this much time on IHOP, I
mean I was eating eggs at real game.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well, it's injuries and it's bits, and the running game
needs to be needs to be a factor, and the
kid needs to have a good game. So it all
kind of weaves together in a marathon segment.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I think McCarthy will lead the team at the end
of the year in rushing touchdowns. I agree with that.
Do you find that to be accurate. Say that one
more time. What in the hell were you just doing?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Someone just showed me something on their phone.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh you're listening. Oh okay, you're listening via the free
iHeart Audio app. All right, Well, here's the deal for
this is complete narrow casting here because we got I
don't know, one fifty whatever one seventy five here overall
Buffalo Wild Wings X amount listening at f M one
hunderd point three kfan and via the free iHeart Audio Appeah,

(18:36):
so we haven't seen Jared Wells. No, he's on the grind.
He's been gone for twenty minutes. Yeah, so a corporate
Gucci with Buffalo Wild Wings might be periscope just arrived.
I saw Jared get an envelope, very thick white envelope.
I think it had a lot of money in it. Yeah,

(18:56):
and you know what he's doing. He's rewiring the entire
sound system here a Buffalo Wildlinks. That's why he's repelling
from the back, well from the ceiling. The funny thing
is I would actually trust Jr. Like if you like
saw him fiddling with fiber wires or something like, I
would actually trust him to do that.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, he's trying to find a radio shack right now
for a quarter inch to an eighth inch after.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, so can they hear us? Like, well, I don't
know right now. That's why Andy Pothan and his group
here pulled up the iHeart Audio app and they're listening
to it in Unison at their sixth person table.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
So Andy's the man he asked me. He's like, are
they going to trade for a corner? I'm like, I
don't know, but Asante is going to be in the
building on Friday.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, you can't trade anymore the deadlines, Well right now,
Well he didn't ask me to, right I can't. I
thought that Andy all the time. I don't know how
deeply rooted your relationship was with my friend Andy Pothan.
When you come to El marv emails me all the time. Andy,
I didn't know you emailed these guys all the time. Mark.
I thought our friendship was solo.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
When you come to Elk River, and yeah, listen, when
you meet somebody in Elk River, that relationship maintains for
a long time.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Generally their names are Lolita and Tangaret.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Many relationships in life are fleeting, but at the feast
they last forever, especially in Oak River.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean, it's completely lost track of what we were
talking about. I know there was a filibuster on Jordan Mason.
There was I know, I said, I happened four times.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So I've been wondering do we need to go to
commercial break or like, how does that work?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, we got time, We're fine, let's let's break it up. Though.
By the way, Odra Martin, Yeah, I don't even know
how to properly describe the channel it has. It's just
I don't know. FanDuel, Yeah, FanDuel Sports Network, Fandel Sports
Network North Yeah. And she also does work for Twins TV.
Oudra informed me the other day, Hey, I'm gonna be

(20:49):
an elk River. So I'm like, we got to come
on the feast. Uh So she'll be joining us at
at about eleven am and when we return. H holy cow.
I mean, this radio show today should be sponsored by
a combination of Bernie Kuchar, Ed Hocu Lee and Trey
Blaine Land Clark Clark. There's so many clipping penalties that

(21:10):
are taking place right now, it's just unbelievable. One of
the Buffalo Wild Wings guys came on. He wanted to
be in the segment. I mean, right in my face.
That's what the microphone for. It is that we use
it to talk on the radio. But I don't blame them. No,
that's good. We're cool, all right. Coming up next, Uh,
coming up next. How about we take a peek at
Philadelphia and Green Bay and to get some quick twitch

(21:32):
opinions there and uh, then we're gonna move into some
bikes bites, bikes bites. Uh. Then Audra will join us
at eleven am.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Then we go real hardcore deep diving into Ravens and
vikings about an hour from now the doc and we
do all that from Buffalo Wild Wings Elk River. It's
the Friday Football. Hey, it's the Friday Football. Be right
back after a.

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(23:02):
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(23:26):
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(23:52):
before we do a little handicapping, your your servers, servers
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they've been here a long time because they line up
for the feast at like six thirty or seven in
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(24:13):
this table. Wow. And then they open I think at eight,
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If you're of the cheap variety, Now's not a good
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(24:35):
of applause for the way they execute their toil. Eagles
and Packers. For the Green Bay Packers five two and one,
this will be their first game. This is take one
for Green Bay Saans tight end Tucker Craft. Yeah, how
you guys see this one? That is a tough loss
for them.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I mean, I've I felt like Tucker Craft was becoming
a top three tight end in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Is that is that overstated? I like it.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
It really felt like he won his most recent his
most recent action prior to the injury.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, yeah, it was like one hundred career game. Yeah,
let's let's just let's think that out top of the
head quickly. Who else would it be? Kittle? You got
Kittle in there. I don't have Kelsey in there anymore.
Kyle Pitts never was in there. I feel like there's
some of the ones in this game at US Bank Stadium.
I'd putting them to Rock Bowers, Bowers, Towers. How's Warren?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's good. He's not Bowers, but he's good. What about
Kincaid and Buffalo Nope? Receiver only? Yeah, and they benefit
about I like, but he struggles to stay healthy?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Set time, Welcome down for river ladies and gentlemen. That
that's my cousin tang Ray. They had in tanger Ray.
Are we still on the radio? Coming up at noon?

Speaker 4 (25:54):
So?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Anyway, Eagles and.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Packers with the tipping, Yeah, I look, the Packers are
an interesting team, I would say right now, there's a
lot of a lot of kind of noise around Matt
Lafleur's play calling and Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've told you guy that you guys this for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Like there are times where I watch Jordan Love and
it's like, man, that guy's impressive. And then there are
times where I watch Jordan Love and I'm like, man,
this is unsustainable, and it's felt like that for three
years for me, and that that is a very tough
place to be there. It just doesn't feel like they
are complementary to a level that you'd really want. And

(26:36):
I you know, the Eagles are interesting. They they added
Jalen Phillips, the edge rusher, via the trade deadline. Their
defense is gonna give you It's gonna be really difficult
at all times. So that is a really tough bounce
back matchup for Matt Lafleur and that Packers offense.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I feel like you can.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Run the ball on the Eagles a little bit now
that I'm in the same boat as you with Jordan Love,
He's I mean, this is and maybe this is the
identity of the team and the way that we would
talk about the identity of the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
What identifies the Purple, what identifies.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
The Packers is they'll roll out and tie the freaking
Cowboys in primetime where Jordan Love was electric when Jordan
Love made all the throws and the lights were bright
and he did everything, and he puts forty on the
board for the road team, but somehow their defense and
trying to usher Michael Parsons back onto the stage in
his old building. They somehow allowed a dac and George

(27:29):
Pickens and company to do what they do.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
They'll they'll go out and they'll fight you and fistfight
the good teams.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
You see the way they put the game plan together.
It's opening week. A lot has changed the way they
beat the kiddies at home. But then they'll do what
they did to Rico Daudell and the Panthers and Love.
Jordan Love may have thrown two if you just lined
up like all the picks, all the bad throws in
the twenty twenty five season, Jordan Love might have two
of the top five in the same game from how

(27:55):
hideous he was against the Panthers. But then now you
have high in defending champions in town bright lights, where
Jordan Love has kind of started. It feels like to
turn a corner and operate a little more efficiently and
explosively on that stage.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
So it's very difficult to handicap.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I will say this though, it just kind of feels like,
and I hate to look at it this way.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Was the Vikings game for the Eagles feels like their
get right game? Do you know what I mean? In
that regard? And I know Saquon didn't get didn't get loose.
He got loose the.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Following game in a huge way for them, But just
in terms of the get right and the attitude and
the Eagles of their own worst enemy, and they got
all these stars and everybody wants to eat what's up
with the QB's kind of weird and he's quiet, but
then he just makes these unbelievable plays.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So you deal with it, and and maybe ag o line.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
You just think about myriad issues that you could you
could have brought up into that game against the Vikings.
With the Eagles, I don't think you can bring those up.
And it's only been a few weeks, but just fresh
off the buy, they did add some talent, so the
GM is putting all of his investment into the stock.
The players feel that vibe. They're gonna be better on
pass rush. I think the defense with all the young cats,
and they've kind of dealt with a few injuries here

(29:05):
and there, specifically in the secondary, but they're healthier. I
just it's difficult for me to say that the Eagles
off the buy are going to roll into Lambeau and
get trucked by by this Green Bay bunch.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, no, I'm with you, like I and the Eagles,
I mean their defense for me, like I really, you know,
by the end of the season, I will wonder if
they're just an ascending unit because I mean, you get
Brandon Graham, who's obviously old and aging, but I still
think that guy is capable in the.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Interior, made that Jalen Phillips move.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Made the Jalen Phillips Phillips move. Quinjon Mitchell is healthy.
Cooper Dejene like I do. I don't think that doesn't
do it. He doesn't do a ton for me at
this point. But I mean they're linebackers, Zach Campbell and
Jihad Campbell, Zach Bond excuse me, Johodd Campbell. Johodd Campbell
is one of the best defensive rookies in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Really good in coverage. Just Campbell is yeah, yeah, he is.
I like him.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
And then Vic Fangio, the coordinator, I just think is
really really good. So my ascension is really the key
word that you're hitting on, because Campbell had trouble earlier
in the year, even cracking and getting on the field,
and then we saw him and he's making plays like ascension.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's a good word for the Birds.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
It just feels like defensively with that unit, it could
be that way. And then I mean the Packers defense,
like there's a reason they brought in us Sante Samuel
on a visit yesterday, Like there's a reason they are
intrigued with that cornerback, just like Vikings are intriguing in
that cornerback. I mean that the defense, you know, I
like the coordinator Jeff Hafley, Micah Parsons is who he is.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
But it doesn't feel like that defense.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Has been the dominant unit that it was the beginning
of the season, and that that I mean again it's
a complimentary thing and just feels like they've lost the
conviction in the complimentary nature the way they had it earlier.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
That's that's a perfect setup for Vikes by next because
the Sante Samuel Junior will come up in the mix.
And with Alex who writes for the Athletic and the
Athletic dot Com. If you have not subscribed, we would
strongly encourage it. Lordo and I have subscribed to the
Athletics since its inception, and just this week Alec has
a really good breakdown of the game. Vikings or Ravens

(31:19):
with a Johnny athletic. We also have a McCarthy related
story Redmond and next segment, Jalen Redman is going to
get center stage nine to now with some things that
Ali chronicle just this week involving Jalen Redman defensive tackle
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Speaker 2 (32:27):
Love you some Thousand Hills Bikes bites, Thousand Hills grass
Fed Beat. Thank you. A Sante Samuell Junior visiting the
Minnesota Vikings. Maybe even right now maybe he's working out
slash meeting them now, Alec, what do you think is
the purpose behind this and what chance would you give
it that he doesn't leave Minnesota, that he signs with

(32:50):
the team. I'm not sure, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I'd give it a chance that it's possible he has
other visits planned after this, so he could leave and
then ultimately make his decision. So Sante Samuel Junior, twenty
six year old cornerback, son of a legend great ball
skills and can play the zone coverages that Brian Flores
wants to play now. A month now, he's coming back

(33:15):
from spinal fusion surgery, throwing a guy back in coming
directly off that it's probably gonna take some.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Time to work up to it.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
And then his tackling is not spectacular, and you have
a cornerback group right now that has not had the
greatest go of it from a tackling perspective. So I
definitely there's a chance. From what it sounds like, this
is not like something that just surface. I think there's
been some mutual interest for some time now, but we'll

(33:47):
see how the medicals check out. Adding a cornerback for depth,
to me, would make sense just because if Iron Murphy
or Isaiah Rodgers were to go down, it gets pretty dicey.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
So that's what I'd say. And secondly, and finally for
Vikes Bikes, Alck once again wrote a really really good story,
very touching story at the Athletic and the Athletic dot
Com about the Vikings defensive lineman jail In Redmond. Some
of it I slash many of you may have known.
But when you get the vivid detail of like an

(34:21):
X ray and a black circle and then black circles,
and then somebody who has a very best friend who
dies at age twenty three, somebody who's in Norman, Oklahoma,
just ready to take off and like start life anew
with football and or basketball, but football for sure. And

(34:41):
then all of a sudden they're like they can't breathe
on their dormitory room floor and you're thinking that, like
everything is over. This Jalen Redmond story, he wrote, man,
he I didn't realize he had been through as much
as he had. Well, then the calfstrain with the Carolina Panthers,
it's like calf strain, I'm gonna play through it all right, Well,
you ain't playing great, so we're probably just gonna cut you,

(35:01):
maybe put you on the practice squad. Well that was
blood clot related. Yeah, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, the Jalen Redman, I mean, watching his development since
he arrived.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
You'll remember this, like.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
One of the first practices since that he was here
last year last summer, Kevin O'Connell kicked him out of
practice and you're like, oh, man, you wrote that.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I didn't remember that.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, so there was like a fight in practice and
Kevin has a rule at the time where like there's
no fighting and he gets thrown out. He's number sixty one.
You're thinking, this guy's got no chance.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
What do you think you are? Tier target?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
But but internally they were, they were over the moon
about what they were seeing from him. And then like
you hear about that him being thrown out now and
it's like, well, we kind of like the meanness, the attitude,
the edge that he had even at the time. But yeah,
when this guy has navigated blood clots and then I
you know, people have asked me a lot or over

(35:55):
the last couple like last year and a half, why
has any changed from numbers sixty one? And I thought,
I've thought the same thing, like it's.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
A brutal number.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And so I went up to him in the locker
room a couple of weeks ago, and I was just
messing around, joking around, and I asked him, like, have
you thought about changing for sixty one? And he told
me the story of when he was in high school,
he wore I believe number six, and his best friend
Juwan Walker wore number one and Joan passed away at

(36:24):
twenty three years old, went to take a nap, passed away,
and so he where he has continued to wear sixty
one to honor his best friend who passed away. And
like when he told me that, yeah, just knowing the
extent of his story and how good he's been, it
was a no brainer story. And he I mean, just
watching him grow and the amount of trust that he
has from teammates and coaches, it's been pretty freaking cool.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
And I don't know if if he does And this
is the last paragraph, last sentence in this story The
Athletic Theathletic dot Com. I don't know if he praised
this or if he just says it. I do know
Jalen is a person in a prayer because he will
pray occasionally in the locker room or on the sideline,
but he says, Juan, I wouldn't be here if it

(37:09):
wasn't for you all that that choked me up a
little bit this morning.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well, he was a basketball player and and like the
coaches and teammates had to really convince him to come
play football. Not that he hadn't played, but it just
he was he was a basketball guy. And Juwan who
was I mean, was one of his best friends, and
like was was huge and kind of.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Convincing him that he should play football.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
So it was, yeah, I mean, that was doing the
story on Jalen Redman is the type of story that, like,
you know, it's you don't see it all the time
in football because UDFA guys just don't have this type
of arc.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And you got to give credit.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'll just say this, like Ryan Grigson takes a lot
of shots from people just from what But the reason
Jalen Redman is a Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle playing fifty
snats is because Ryan Gregson identified him on film playing
for the Arlington Renegades.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's not to say the drafting it has.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Been perfect to the front office or any of that
but I just I do want to credit how they
identified him in the first place, and then Brian Flora's
willingness to believe in him once he arrived in the building.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know, it's cool and your opportunity with the Athletic.
You've written a lot of features on specific players, and
this isn't the first one that has led a story
down the road of tough upbringing, troubled circumstances, finding their
way and accomplishing dreams. But it just kind of makes
me think sometimes, and you saw this the late Kyrie Jackson.

(38:37):
Part of his story just kind of leads me down
a road like how humans encounter and use adversity in
their lives and then how maybe they triumph over it.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I mean, Jalen Redman, will he be a Hall of
Fame football player? Maybe maybe not.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
You know, it's good, it's it's it's it's not been
written yet, but to the end of as a human
in covering you know, not only personal health issues, but
the death of a friend and just the emotion and
everything behind that all while in the end we operate
in a world or for avolity with sports, but trying
to achieve that dream.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know, people meet crossroads, right and the resistance, and you.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
See it a lot in sports where a lot of
these players encountered a hell.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Of a lot of issues as kids and it.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Wasn't a perfect home and a picket fence, but they
had this gift and for them to lock in focus,
maximize it, whatever the motivation's personally behind it, for them
to overcome some of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's really cool that you get to write stories like that.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
It's just super captivating to me and fascinating kind of
the melting pot of sports locker rooms. How these guys
get from point A, which starts at different levels, by
the way, but point B finds themselves playing a professional
sport and being very blessed in Douds and I think.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's beautiful the way you laid that out, because without
getting into the weeds, you and I in our lives
both have experienced personal tragedy, yeah, recently or throughout the past,
and if we were to really sit here and like
minister to people or counsel to people or talk to
people like what you went through and what was different,
it's it is. You know, cliches are cliches because they're

(40:14):
age old and true. So people can be like I
talking cliches, right, whatever, No, Well, you say things because
they're true and they've been true for a long time.
So when I or we say speaking for us, because
I think it's going to be accurate. There are certain
tragedies that hit your life that humble you in ways

(40:35):
you can't see coming. And it also helps you recognize
things that maybe would wind you up to an eight,
nine or ten before now wind you up to a two,
three or four, and you handle them differently. I said
something on the radio the other day, just in passing

(40:56):
where it's like, I don't prefer to argue. I can
argue if we need to argue, but I don't prefer it.
In fact, if I'm seventy five, if I think I'm
seventy five percent right, then it's important to me, in
certain facets of my life to be the first to
say I'm sorry, even if I think I'm seventy five
percent right, because it's it's not only the right thing
to do, but it diffuses things, and it causes a

(41:22):
face change, it causes things to settle, so you can
actually accomplish things that but I can't always say that
I was that person you know so so that that
just so many emotions were triggered by the story that
you wrote. To hear Eric speak the way he did,
you know, knowing his life as well as I do
over the last decade and change that was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well, I've thought about It's a way different conversation where
you're talking about like the different upbringings and what guys
have navigated.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Like you look at JJ McCarthy, well with Redman just
to land the plane here, Yeah, the humbling part. Yeah,
I thought for sure I should be drafted. Yeah I was.
I I twenty three year old best friend dies bye
bye bye. Everybody else you could just tell his perspective change.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, I've thought a lot about JAJ McCarthy, not within
this conversation, but like this is a guy who grew
up with a great family, a great home, has been
the star quarterback, played at IMG, went to Michigan. He's
the hero, and so you would think from the outside, man,
this guy, everything's great, everything's easy, everything's perfect, and then

(42:31):
he suffers the injuries he suffered, and I don't he's
gotten into it a little bit, but the mental I guess,
just challenge hurdle, you know, complication of you've always been
the guy, you know, you suffer the injury, you can't
be with your team, Like there is a serious amount
of adversity within that. And I've just thought about JJ

(42:52):
with this from a he's twenty two years old. Imagine
how hard life was as a twenty two year old anyway,
And you've got some microscopic lends on you. Every throw
you make, every step you take, every word you speak.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It is a It is a tough place to be.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
And I I credit him honestly for like, that's what
I was thinking about a lot coming out of that game.
Is you navigate being out again five weeks out and
he comes back, comes back and performs in the spotlight
like that.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It has not been an easy road for him.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Different conversation, just something that's you know, it's it's gone
through my mind.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Tell me and closing here, tell me this alter Ego
nine thing is not gonna have legs. And I and
I'm gonna tell you why. I hope it doesn't have legs.
It's not him, Okay, I don't know why he said
what he said. The the the scal the the unbelievable
video with O'Connell giving him the ball and the meme
mugging and yeah me and all that. Okay that you know,

(43:50):
that's he's a child. Okay, he's a child playing a
man's game, still growing up, Yes, childlike qualities, while being
very gifted and good at what he does. But this
nine alter ego thing, that thing's domo. Hope it doesn't
get legs. Yeah, I don't know. It was kind of
out of nowhere in the Prescotte. It's not him. I'm
just telling you right now, it's not him.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
It was just Betty Feel's moments like I don't think,
I don't think it's false.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
But it's but it's there. Yeah, No, it's gaining traction
in a way that I'm the same. Yeah, I'm just
saying that is not him. I here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I remember, maybe in August I wrote a story about
JJ and in it it was like, he's still a kid.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And I remember there were people.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who replied to the story and they're like, why do
you keep calling him a kid? Yeah, we're really mad
about that. Well, he's twenty two years old, and so
there is a lot of at that time growth learning
development that has to go on, and so what you
know what he says, what he does. He's not going
to be perfect in the games. He's not gonna be perfect.

(44:54):
He's twenty two. There's a lot of growth. It's like
any of us at twenty two years old, if everything
we said and everything we did was documented, you'd probably
be like.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
What in the world. Thank goodness social media.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
So yeah, I don't know whether the nine thing catches on.
I will say this, I like this. Justin Jefferson was
asked about it. They said, you know, our team has
a lot of nice guys, and sometimes we kind of
need the dog to come out within our team.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And I like that, Like, this is football.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I know I'm this nerdy, you know, journalist guy, but
this is football. It requires some absolute kind of you know,
borderline moniacal behavior to perform on Sunday. And so if
that's where he the place JJ has to go to
do that, and that galvanizes the group.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'm kind of for that. Alex lewis the athletic Matt producer.
Alan Nine to Noon is the radio show of Buffalo
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