November 19, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, final hour Nord win for Pa. It's vocal maintenance.
He'll be back tomorrow. Lieber in the mix charchise some
fantasy footballsation doesn't brow maintenance. I think that was wax recently,
actually really eyebrow. Yeah yeah, now he technically he has two.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, no, he's you know, he just he went from
looking to like a poor man's George Clooney to a
poor man's Mark Boulger to a poor man's Albert Einstein.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And that is Lavelle Neil.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The third columnists start Tribune, coming in hot your bears.
I do want to get to your bears, of course
you do. You guys have all emerged from fifteen years
of hibernating and now are out in public. You're wearing
your big you know, the orange and blue jerseys and
a sea on your calf, warging a little bit NFC North,
just just making knowing I contact with other Bears faithful
(01:02):
is now. You know, I used to worry about Packers
fans painting and toxifying my my communities, and it might
be Bears fans, but.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We're not coming out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're not arrogant, conceited painting or drinking miscreants like the
packer fan nation is.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I think that's perfectly worded. I think I couldn't agree
with you more.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You h O, B I got Brett Blakeboart's here. Now
I'll just show myself out. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh, I think I think you nailed it. That's weird
seeing him at the sink in the in the bathroom.
But any rate, you were in Sioux Falls covering the
curling trials. Yeah, and you hit me with first the
end of an era and then suddenly in Shaska where
I live, we might have world class Olympic curlers in
(01:47):
my midst Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, first of all, you know, I met John Schuster
at twenty fourteen, two weeks before he was headed to
the Olympics. I can't rememberhere the twenty fourteen the Olympics
were at. I was in the Loom Cafe downtown Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Was that in North Korea? Pyongyang? That's twenty eighteen? Oh,
my bed so sooci I think.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It was Socia. So I met him. I met Tyler, George,
John lands Segner, Matt Hamilton. Uh, they're in town, they're
they're getting ready to shove off to Olympics. The second
time I'm at John Schuster was twenty eighteen before he
went to Pio Yang and at Moose Country in Lily though,
which is now closed, and it was a week before
they were aheaded to the Olympics, and of course we
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all know what happened there, a fantastic match against Sweden
when he put up the five spot in the in
the eighth end or maybe the ninth end to win gold,
and then just kept running into him after that every
now and then. So I've known John for over ten
years and cool the fact that he has gone to
five consecutive Olympics is just mind boggling to this. So
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it was really a weird moment in Sioux Falls when
they lost to Danny Casper's team in the in the
finals of the US Trials. Danny Casper's team curls out
of the Tasca Curling Club, and I know the curly
Some curling people get mad at me about this because
apparently that center in Chaska's badass.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I haven't been there, I hear a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, so it's right next to this place, Crooked Pint, Okay,
so you can actually while you're in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is a crooked there's a crooked pint and sux falls.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, there there's one I think down in down in
Savage at thirteen and forty two. There's crooked pints all
over the place. Well, and you can sit and you
can get you can get your tall beer and your
burger and you can apparently watch.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I did not know this.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Danny Casper in an Olympic high end curling squad in there.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
All right, well local coming.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
People don't jump on me in this because I know
the team Peterson, the sisters. Tabatha is the skip in
taris one of I think she's the second on the team.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Man, you know a lot about curling.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They came out of the Saint Paul Curling Club. But
now on the curling website there Listen is coming out
of Taska now, so I think maybe he go there
to train. I don't know, maybe I get straight down
in that. But Minnesota is the capitol of curling the
United States. John Schuster was out of Chisholm, Minnesota. Chris
(04:11):
Plies his second was out, No, his third, he's out
of Duluth. Lansnight Lansteiner was up there too. Yeah, he
just retired. He got replaced by Colin Huffman. Colin Huffman
was born in Fairbanks, Alaska, but apparently it's in Minnesota
and now listened to Twin Cities. But people have moved
to the state of Minnesota because I.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Get the curling game mine.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I met Schuster up. We did nine and Noon did
a show up in Duluth and I got to meet
then initials here a few weeks ago. You may have
I think it is. Yeah, So anyway, Dar started every
Friday morning. I think at eight fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Danny Casper's like the young bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Schuster's forty three and Casper is twenty four and his
family is in the Green Bay area, but he grew
up on the East coast of New York and then
came moved year to get his curling game on.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's people who have.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Moved to Minnesota because of the curling uh infrastructure here
to take advantage of it. So so right now, both
Team Peterson and Team Casper have to go to British
Columbia to qualify for the Olympics. There's two spots left
in each field and they have to face eight or
seven other nations. We already to go to the twenty
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twenty six Olympics in Italy. So so it was it
was it was a great run. And the thing is
these people are all friends. Like I got a story
that's either going online today or maybe maybe tomorrow about
like they all they like ringing, they do the airbnb bit,
all right, and so they both all these teams did
every B to B and shoe falls. Well, Casper ended
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up in the house next to Shuster all week.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, So like there's by play going on during the
week their friends, so Casper come over and hang out
with them, you know. But the night Sunday night, when
Casper's team knocked off, Shuster emost of them moment, you know,
Colin Huffman, you know, was kind of composing himself while
he's trying to talk, you know, to NBC.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But Team Shuster walked.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Over to Casher's place at like eleven thirty at night
with pizza and they set to two am shooting the breeze, talking, curling,
hanging out, playing flues ball. You know, that's the Kernel
community for you. It's it's it's friendships built through competition,
which is very it strikes me very I find very
fascinating with this group.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So that's super cool. I'm I'm glad you were down there.
We didn't get to have you in studio into the
Bears week, but it's cool that you got to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I had the pleasure of covering the Beijing Olympics in
twenty twenty two, and it's got me activated about until
you got COVID the winner. Well, the guy in front
of me had COVID, not me. I was in close quarantine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This just activating me because there are thirty Minnesotas on
the Olympic team, starting with the curlers, with the hockey players.
You know, that's what I met. Brock Favor, Yeah, you know,
the women's team. Half the Frost was on it, Jesse Diggins,
you know, in all the skiers and everything.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It was just it was something right every day.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And so thirty seven Minnesotans, thirty thirty excuse.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Me, we're not going. We're not going to Italy this year.
It's just it's not cost effective anymore. And I get you,
I'm bummed out about it, but I still feel we
need to make sure we get these stories out about
our local athletes. And so yeah, I asked to go
to Sioux Falls so I could cover this and because
I know a lot of people care about curling.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
In the state. Oh that's awesome, man, I'm glad you did.
And can we hit the Covenant cleanup sounder? I know
you just beg to hit this every single time that
I feel like coven and clean up say stupid things
all of the time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
We just come from I'm covening and.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Clean up according to you, and I forgive up at
coven and clean Up sponsored by nobody. So the Olympics,
and it didn't sound right as soon as I said it.
The Olympics, I believe in twenty eighteen were in peong
Chang in South Korea.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
We corrected it said North Korea, because you did because
I say stupid things all of the time. So I
apologize for that grave error. You're not holding the Olympics
and just a communist wasteland.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But an hour and a half ago, my story dropped
on start tribune dot com about Danny Casper's brink being
a step close.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's on the website. Yeah, it's on the website right Noway,
so start tribune dot com. Levell, you came in you
started screaming Bear down like it was kind of an
ugly scene, and it was. It was off air and
hopefully the webcams weren't working at the time. Your team
seven and three, they beat my favorite team, very frustrating
big kick return and Kyro Santos found this is.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Into the studio here because I remember last last week
when we were talking, I was we're going through the standards.
I was again the Bears in this place, and then
there's a team in fourth place and Pa throws in
air not for long? Well how long at a bike
is gonna be the last place?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Now? Forty start claiming out of the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Cellar, Well, it's it's potentially going to be. It's going
to be the rest of the season, Lavelle. And then
you know what we're gonna do is we're gonna do
what your team did. We're gonna get a fourth place schedule.
We're gonna win thirteen games again with the kid QB,
and everything's gonna be fine. With that said, your team
seven and three, you have beaten now the seven opponents
a collective. I think it's like, let's call it nineteen
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forty seven and one in that record. But as I've
been kind of saying, just framing it up. It's like,
but there's belief there, Like you, what are you thinking
about your Bears at seven and three? And just kind
of I mean, first of all, all respect Ben Johnson's
done a bang up job with this thing, and he
deserves a ton of respect for that. Dennis Allen finding
his way through injury with that defense, Like, what are
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you loving about your Bears in the North right now?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I just like the fact that there's improvement and it
looks like, yeah, I believe, I've actually I'm on the
bearest texturing here in town. And of course I was like,
you know, belief is permeating throughout Hellas Hall right now
because they feel, like Slash Allery, they've got a game,
They've got a chance to win every game they play in. Now,
do they have like a Marquis singature victory. No, don't
you play the schedule that you've been handed to.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But listen, the.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Bears have been in the last place in the division
of how many years they haven't playing on the stream
of last play schedules, all right, and they still stuck.
So this is an improvement. And I will say this too.
We also forget this that uh, coaching malpractice has ruined
ruined this team. Last year Caleb Williams brought the Bears
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back multiple times. They score fifteen points, like forty seconds
against the Vikers at home.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Lost that game.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They drove down the field, got within field gun range
of tying the Packers at home that got blocked. There
was a Washington fiasco. Oh yeah, and then there's a
Thanksgiving Day fiasco. All right, So it's four gan is
right there, Matt Evenflus just kicked just from coaching in aptitude.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh the Turkey Day. Yeah, could have called a time out,
but didn't exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So now these now these lates, these last second things
are being converted. Now they getting plays either a block
field goal, a timely passed to Colston Lovelin against the
worst tackling team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know, so it's working out.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Even you know, I was mad about I thought they
should have went four on fourth and five in the
fourth quarter, but it worked out.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
The pack the Vikers came down and took the lead.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And then is that when they kicked that last field goal,
there was that the one they did they punt, the
one they punted on okay, okay, and maybe a fourth
to seven.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know, but it was like at the forty
it was right and a weird I understand spot there.
And you know, uh, Carol Santos, who you know, he's
a source of constant debate among the bearest fans in
town about whether he's good or not. You know, he
missed that one field though, which would have made things easier.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think we hit the game winner. Doesn't he hold
a record though, like Robbie Gold? I mean, I just
picture is would Robbie Gold be considered maybe your longest
tenured or best kicker?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And then there was frustration because he ended up going
to the Niners and had some success there too.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, John Fox, he had one bad year and John
Fox punted him after that year, which was a mistake,
and he went to San Francisco and thrived again.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But I think Cairo holds your Bears record now in
like fifty yard plus field goals.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He might.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's up there in terms of like accuracy too, So
he's been functioning.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He doesn't have the big lake and you know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's we're in a We're in an era now where
damn near every kicker get hit a sixty yard except
Carol Santos, you know, except I don't think. I think
the during warm ups I was reading something that the
Bears of Porters group we're tweeting that he was hitting
fifty eight yards in warm ups before the Vikings game,
which was, Okay, that's good, that's that's outstanding for him.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's not bad.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But I mean it worked out. The Bears had a
huge kick return that. You know, it's a combination of
you know, them taking advantage of what they saw from
the Vikings plus as we saw Matt Daniels talking yesterday
about how everybody tried to be trying to play hero
ball on that h and got out of their space
outs Marina the gaps, Yeah, exactly, man.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And du Vernet's kind of I mean, you understated. I
can't necessarily say underrated. He had time to make Hay
in Baltimore and was just kind of a ham and eggs.
But the return game he's been nice man him and
what is it Blackwell the other guy, Yeah, Josh Blackwell.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, but you have two nice, nice players guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And you know, on our side of things, I'm thinking
all the penalties, I'm thinking all the miscues. Miles Price
has a kick return TD taken away because of a
holding penalty at Detroit, So we're loving on Miles, and
Miles fumbles it twice the next week against the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Now we're hating Miles.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Then he has the kick return this last week that
put the Vikings in a spot where it was two
plays Jordan Mason.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Into the end zone. So we're loving Miles again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Outside of the kicker man, just the inconsistency with our
special teams in a year where we needed everything to
be solid, rock solid and reliable around the kid QB,
it's been anything but that, and your Bears are just
steamrolling ahead. You know, you don't even need NF caliber corners.
It appears as like your entire secondary is hurt. You
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haven't had Gordon or Johnson a pro bowler. Yeah, did
he come back and then got hurt again or what
he did?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay? So did Kyler Gordon too? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Actually, Jalen Johnson's practice went opened last week, so he's
in line to get back on the field here shortly.
Cali Gorton should be here playing in the next two
or three weeks. T J Edwards, who is huge for
our run defense, is close to returning to So the
Bears defense has not been one hundred percent healthy all year.
The Vikers know about that because they had to wait
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out Van Ginko and and like Cashman, you know so.
But to continue Bears fan line here, the Bears don't
have the signature wins like New Englands eight and three,
but they can say we won at Buffalo and we
beat who's New England.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's fine. Nine, But they won it
flooding one in Tampa Bay. Those are two nice victories.
The Bears don't have that. And you know what's crazy too, though,
the nine and two Patriots they lost to those Raiders
that we saw the week on. How about that in
New England, by the way, like just kind of crazy
how seasons go. The Patriots might be the story of
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the year. But in the North right now, it's your Bears.
You think they stay atop the North. I got my concerns.
I think it's still the kiddies. I got my concerns.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's because the defense hasn't been whole, and you like
to see everybody healthy. Our past rush is lacking still.
But once you have Edwards and Johnson and Kyla Gordon
in the mix.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That makes a difference, and we believe that that's going
to take place at some point in the next month.
That would have matched. Okay, so okay, but our schedule
now gets harder. Mason Rudolph at home, Well, they just
said he's not gonna have surgery.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Does that mean he's not gonna play I mean, I
don't know. I would imagine Rogers. This could be his
last time playing Rogers. He loves beating the Bears, and
he actually says nice things about Chicago, the city and
it's fans. He just likes the city. Yeah, you know,
but he enjoys beating the Bears.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He still says that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So he can walk the streets in the off season.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, I know, he's talked about walking the streets and
people engaged him in conversations and enjoying those back and forth,
you know.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, so he stays, he stays on Michigan Avenue or
inside the Loop and he just, you know, he loves engaging,
but he says nice things so he doesn't get harassed.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So after Pittsburgh, the Pennsylvania Swing continues with the Bears
at Philadelphia on Black Fat Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Now is Philly at there? Are they playing at their
best right now? Absolutely not. They've got offensive issues with
Jalen Hurts and but the defense is badass. They still
win that game, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Then after that we've got Packers. I can't remember if
that first games at home or or away at at Lamboy.
Then we have Cleveland Browns and then Packers again. Yeah,
then forty nine Ers then and then the season against Lions
at the crib. Oh that is that is a yeah,
it is my goodness. I don't know how many wins
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we're getting the rest of the way here. We got
to win.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You gotta get the Steelers. We got the Steelers game
after they at the Browns.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Give them eight wins, and then they have to cough
up two. You get to two, I gotta managed you
can be a wild card team. They beat the Steelers,
they go eight and three, they have six games left.
They if they go two and four they need to,
they'll be ten. They'll be ten and seven and they
that should be enough to get into postseason.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Right. Well, I was just I think it is. I
was trying to play this game like the Panthers are
kind of cool. You know, it's cool, cool story. They're
six and five. I think it's canal is down there.
He's done a pretty good job. And you see Bryce
Young throwing for four hundred plus yards.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But grand scheme. They he's a little better. He's better.
They've won with running and a good defense.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, And I wrote I wrote about this before the
Vikers game and said, you know, the JJ's looking at
Caleb over there on the other side of the field.
Caleb's a better quarterback and he was a year ago.
So J's gonna be better a year from now that
he is right now, and two years from now he's
gonna better, and he will be a year from now.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It just he's just gotta get out of the path.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Bryce Young, who I I don't like to He looks
like he weighs one hundred and seventy five pounds, so
I got concerns about him.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
He looks fragile, Yeah, but our is our quarterback. Fragile though,
I mean, whether in the knee. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Everyone gets the knee.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It feels like, I mean, that's not you know, an
impossible thing to suffer. The meniscous injury but then it's
the ankle. He's got a pad on his freaking hand.
Like I know, people, you know, it's like he's only
started five games. I get it, Well, he's been in
the league for a year and a half. Injuries have
to be part of the conversation with JJ.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's a hockey player. You forgured he'd be tough enough
that to not have to worry about these things, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I couldn't. I couldn't believe. Two weeks ago they did the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Trick pass back to McCarthy and then they wanted to
set up a couple of blockers on like a third
and eleven and get JJ out running, and then he
dives head first and took just a nasty hit.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I don't need the kid taking those kinds of Yeah,
I wonder if one off koc called Ben Johnson for
that play. That was kind of not kocs sire.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, and then he didn't run at all in the
Bears game, staying in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Clearly, I think they got they got to move the
pocket with four him with a couple of times get
cut the field in half, lim roll out and cut
the field half a little bit FORMI say he can
make plays that way and.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Part of the adjustion in the game. Though, Dennis Allen
knows what he's doing, right. I mean, he was down
on the Bayou making memories for many years right at
corner and winning games.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And that he's been another point because I'm not a fan.
He's been around the ball so many times. But he
gets beat.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, he gets beat.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
But but he's got I think he's got four picks.
He's got fubber recoveries. You know, he's got the flashy
status you want from a defensive back.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But he's got to pick six against guy.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But people go at him. People go at Tarik Stevenson,
who's a little bit better. He's kind of moved on
from the whole Washington fiasco. But and we got some guy.
Dae McCleod is a third corner, I mean, and somehow
this has been without a strong pass rush, and Dennis
Allen's been able to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it was smart though, because they played the can
contain game a lot with McCarthy and you know, I'm
still trying to figure out what I think of Will
Fries at the guard spot. There were on one where
he nearly threw a third interception and Addison had to
come back and play defensive back. And I think it
was Stevenson and Brisker maybe that were they collided and
one of them was kind of hurt, like hurt his
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own Remember that play yet, But Fries got knocked back
seven bleeping yards into McCarthy's lap, and if you look
at the situation, that wasn't a spot where he really
had any I think it had to be part of
the game plan with Dennis Allen where he's like, I'm
not letting you get out because there was not a
lot of room for him to get nimble and negotiate
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if the interior.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of the pocket was collapsing. I don't think the Bears
blitzed a lot. I know, I know they didn't. Flores
was Flores.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Someone said that they clear he flit seventy percent of
the time against Caleb.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh. Eric Wilson was trying to live in the backfield
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, I was like, because he did not blitz Caleb
in week one, all of a sudden, he brought the
funk last week and it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, it's what Caleb wasn't great either.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
He he he over he overcooked some throws and missed
some guys who were open. JJ's just throwing fastball at
the fastball. He reminds me of Joseph Ayah, the guy
with the Tigers at a one hundred and three mile
hours passball. Didn't know what's going and they didn't have
a secondary pitch. No need to show it every time.
He needs a secondary pitch. Man.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the you know. With Caleb.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'll say this, I'm not impressed by Caleb Williams in
the respect that I think that he's a high end
QB at this stage.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I'm just not He's out there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
However, he's not making those mistakes. He's nearly impossible to
be sacked, and he does have the ability athletically and.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Just kind of into it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like when JJ turned the brain off and you get
that final drive they take the lead. JJ shows those
glimpses of greatness and ability. Caleb has that too, so
he's not giving it to the other team. He's not
getting sacked sixty eight times, and he's making smart plays
in moments, even if in the end, I mean he's
bailing out on some of those deep throws and he's
not hitting them, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean the Doomsay was gone on a play.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
If he doesn't overthrow him, DJ Moore got loose and
he couldn't connect. I mean, that thing could have looked
way uglier than it did. I just he's not he's
not ruining games for you?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is that there is taker that Jay that McCarthy is.
McCarthy's been a risk taker man, he has. And I'm
just going on what last week's game against who you
guys lose to last week?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Not the Bears, Graves, the Ravens. Yeah, start if you
were counting what.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The TV folks claim that six of his picks were
on passes of trying to hit JJ Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Makes him make a seven now, So he's got seven of.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
His picks got to Bayern, Yeah, or on throws to
Justin Jefferson. So, which is weird because he's there's something
he's not doing right there? Because Jay, the other JJ
eighteen has caught passes from every freaking quarterback that KOC has.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Trotted out there, six or seven of them. Yes, he has,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Not working out with with with with McCarthy. So why
do you think that he's putting the ball. He's either
overcooking the fastball again. He's not putting it a pie
where only Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Can get it to. It's all the above.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, that's the frustrating thing is like from game
one through game five, you're not saying there's nothing tangible
to say that he's obviously regressed. There's nothing tangible to
say that he is obviously progressed because it might be
a pace issue or lack of touch, it might be
just blatant inaccuracy. You see bits, and then you see
the drive, like manufacturing three touchdowns fourth quarter Week one.
(23:21):
You see what he did in the Lions game, you
open up, I mean scoring on those first two drives
meant everything in that game at Ford Field. And then
you see the drive that he executed when you had
to have it to take the lead for about fifty seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So you see those bits, I think it's all of it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like on that throw that he made that was picked
off by Byered, I think he needs to throw it
a second earlier. He needs to throw it before Jefferson
gets outside the hashes, where Byered can then come and
kind of bail on his guy near side and actually
affect that play.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And what does he do he picks it off.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
He's throwing it late, he's not processing it quickly, and
maybe you know, some of those.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Decisions that are being made are the wrong ones.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So game six, we just got to be patient with
the kid, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
A process, man, Trust me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I've watched this with Mitch Trubisky justin fields and now
call Williams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right, that's Lavelli new the third. We're gonna pause.
When we come back. We are going to talk maybe
more border Battle specific because we have a diseased Packers
fan on the other side of the glass, and we're
just gonna get Lavell's thoughts on how these two teams
stack up.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Are we gonna talk USA Paraguay?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, we're not talking about it. It's a big win.
Nordo World Cup twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was a butt. It was an ass kicking. Oh
a five to one, I think five one and you're gray.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Did not have this full team, but they still had
some high quality players. The defensive midfield was an unholy
alliance of Manchester United playing m Suarez and is he
he's not No, he wasn't playing. He's like thirty eight
years old.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Just check him.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They didn't have swore us. Maybe that was the issue.
I don't even know if he is from Uruguay. That
sounds right, but I could be very very wrong. But
I'm going to roll with it at any rate. Uh No,
we're not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You asked me if Diego four long play for them?
He's like forty two now.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh but he was good off the set pieces. Are
you kidding me? I love that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
When we return, we'll hit up some border battle and
continue the conversation with the Star Tribune columnist Extraordinary Levelly
Neil the Third as we continue nine to noon. All right,
(25:39):
kind of a dumb quick segment here, Leavelli Neil the
Third in studio, The Star Tribune, Thestartribune dot Com. It's
not dumb that Lavell's here, it's just dumb what I
planned for this particular segment. Lavell, Here's what's gonna happen.
Oh no, yeah, plan, Well, it's the border battle this weekend.
Brett is a diseased Packers fan. So just an almost
like baby game the way PA would frame it up style. Uh,
(26:02):
you are just going to arbitray various position groups and
who's got the better mix oh really, and it's it's
nice to sit on the throne.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When you're team seven and three.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It must be nice to be able to peek your
head out and publicly proclaim to everybody that you are
indeed a Bears fan and you don't get laughed at.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, there's probably points of reverence.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I stopped at the clears on the way over here,
and I was in the clears and the guy was
in there with a Bears had on and I said,
bear down. He said, yes, sir, So they're they're it's
safe to come out now. If you're a Bears fan
in town and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
There's a movement happening, allary iss got to be packed.
And maybe some will even try to steal some of
the love and try to become Bears Bears bars of
their own.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's possible. I think there's I think there's one until.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
They only win two down the stretch and find their
way out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I believe it is a West Metro Bears bar somewhere.
I know East Metro's Calleries is of course the epicenter
of Bears fandom and excitement and great barbecue as well.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yes, seven and three with a negative point differential, there's
a lot to be as happy about it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That's from that's from one game and one game only. Yeah,
this is just from one game.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
They all count, all right, So so simply enough here,
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep it tally here,
quick run through it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Quarterback's pretty obvious, right, love.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Is I mean, that's okay, that's hackers.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, it just happens to be, you know, Jacob McCarthy
think of it. If at Lilliams have to think about it?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
All right, Okay, how about this? How about this? Uh Brett,
you're running?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You have the best individual running back of the group
is Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Is he healthy? Causes knee?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think he's iffy to play, no permanent damage. It
sounds like as of.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now questionable for this week. They say it's either this
week or next week.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So do we go on basein what's on the roster? Now?
Who's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Available Sunday can go and we can go in totality
if Jacobs doesn't play, that's clearly the Vikings. Yes, I'm
thinking Jacob's is the best singular back. I agree, but
I think that the stable in Minnesota is better. If
properly utilized.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, I actually guess k properly utilized.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I didn't say it. I'm just I'm just I'm just
shooting from the lip here. Offensive line all things considered,
from Dari Saw through O'Neill book and tackles versus Rashid Walker,
who's actually acquitted himself quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Jakins is out now right.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Elkton's out of the mix is Elton. I've never pronounced
that correctly, elg ten. I've Elton, el a gun el
Elton's fine Elton. Yeah, you can just call it e J.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's a big loss because he's he's so versatile for them.
I have to go Vikings have a better offensive line.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I would say that seed similar to your uh running back,
where you think Jacobs is the best individually, I think
CD is the best individual O lineman the two units. Really,
I don't think either O line is much to write
home about. I don't think the Packers A line is
playing particularly well, but I don't think the Vikings A
line has helped anybody, whether it be Wentz or Aaron
(28:59):
Jones or A J.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So I really think you just have to go with
who is the least bad o line.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I think I would go Green Bay. Well, but
see he is the best individual blocker for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Since I'm arbitrating this, I'm gonna go on recency bias here.
The Bears were unable to stag J. J.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I watched Jordan Love get chased around the field by the.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
New York Giants. Yeah, all right, just say it. So
I'm leaning Vikings.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Right there we go.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Okay, it's two to one in favor of mine all
the team.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I will say the Giants have a badass defenseve line
with Brian Burns and Thibodeau and uh.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
On a crap team.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
By the way, you forget about Brian Burns having an
unbelievable season, like there's cool bright spots there even though
the coach was bad and had to go. And now
I think it's Northwestern's finest Kafka running the not the
philosopher Kafka, Mike Kafka, former Wildcats QB. All right, so
it's two to one Vikings. I like this.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Let's just get wide receivers. We all agree.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I mean, the best bit would be for me to go, oh,
we've got a bunch of depth, and we've got four
number ones and it's great.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, the that's tight.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Jordan Andison to be in a will receiver for the
Packers in a heartbeat, absolutely, although Golden Golden still has
a chance Christian Watch. No one knew he was on
the team and then he just emerges from the mist
and gets two against the ratty Giants.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Come on, gets injured. He gets very injured every week
he does. He never he can't stay on the field
for entire game.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
He's more fragile than my quarterback right now. Okay, don't
say things you don't mean. Eric, My goodness, tight ends,
what do we think Fitzpatrick Musgrave see, I like I
like my group better. I need eighty seven to h
to catch more passes. Wouldn't mind him breaking a tackle
once in a while, but he was also wide open
(30:43):
for an easy catch and run of thirty and the
kick QB overthrew him. I like I like my tight
ends with Oliver and company better.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I think two weeks ago, Yeah, we would have had
a really good conversation had been different with Tucker. Tucker
Craft is really good. Fucker's sweet and I think he
is as good as any tight end in the league
isn't bad Musgrave. I'm a musk Grave believer, but he's
he can't be used like a regular tight end. He's
got to be used like a receiver in a tight
end's body.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's his style.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
In fairness, I will concede Tucker should be part of
this maybe grand scheme conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I'd give it to them. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I like?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I said, That's why I want to ask who's that
healthy versus that's the roster Again, this is arbitr. It's
based on just the roster regardss to who's healthy. Then
I'll take the package.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think that's probably right. Okay, we got a better kicker.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Okay, sweet waymen, your kicker McMahon is injured.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Right, he's questionable.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So who kicked for general's question?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, well playing them even though he had a quad
injury and he kept telling him he's okay, and then
he keeps pulling kicks.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Go figure.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So have r sick as the record for the longest
field going Packer's history at sixty one yards.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So it's not bad to the defense defensive front. You
got Rashaan Parsons, I got Grenard and Van Ginkle.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
What do we think, well, Brett, which argument? I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I think Micah Parsons has paid the way that he
is for a reason. His pressure rates are unreal, and
he comes in clutch when the team needs him. He's
been their closer. And then Rashaun Gary's pretty good as well.
The fan learned, I gotta give it.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This is this is this defensive line of front seven.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let's let's just go front because we're gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was very side edged to the Packers on this. Ye.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It was already they always it was already a good
front that got really good because of Parsons.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I love our guys tons of respect with Van Ginkle,
Cashman and In Grenard.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, that that's the thing though, I think the conversation changes.
Not even j Parsons, Jalen Redman has been fantastic. I'm
over all, I hate to say it, I've been disappointed
with Alan and Hargrave. Yeah, and I think you know,
and I'm not trying to pretend like Kolby Wooden is
a future all pro here, but it is kind of
impressive to move on from Kenny Clark. You're starting to
see the fruits of Devonte wat like Drake car we got.
(33:03):
I know it's tough that this is, this is is
very difficult. Now to the corners, I I actually I
think that the Packers corners benefit from that defensive front.
I actually like Isaiah Rodgers and Bira Murphy. Although Murphy
hasn't splashed like he did. I like our corners better
than Nixon. And I think it's Bullard.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Uh yeah, Bullard's there.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Valentine as well, Valentine the other two so Nate Hobbs
can't stay on the field. I like. I like my group.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Nate Hobbs getting out the field addition by subtraction probably
not be good acquisition. I think they're assaulid. Nixon and
Valentine are a solid pair. But Rogers when he makes plays,
I mean he impacts the field. I don't think Bert
Murphy has been as good as advertised. I would give
a slight lean, but I would also say the same
thing with I said at the O line. It's kind
(33:51):
of who is least bad out of these two cornerback group.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean give that the vikings here, I think we're
talking about two position groups that are not e laite
by any to the imagination. Okay, but I will give
the edge to the Vikings, and this.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Should the Bears particulous.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And then finally the safeties, and this is gonna pay
me because one of my favorite players in Purple, it's
just played his two hundredth games.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Is not gonna be good. I don't have this conversation, honestly.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean Xavier McKinney is damn good. And I think
Evan Williams he's not perfect. Dude tackles, dude, hits, dude
plays well.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Big pick. Last week, I got Theo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm still trying to figure out Mattelis and coverage.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I have to.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Give the I have to give the pack the safeties.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Mattelis man, it's hard to put a position on him.
He's kind of just like an Amiba that he kind
of like fills in whatever space that b flow wants
on that particular particular defense. You know, he could be
a line he could be like a linebacker. You'd be
like a safety, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So that's that's four to four. Give the kicker to
the Vikings. The Vikings win the border battle, we tie breaker, tiebreaker, tiebreaker.
Coaching staff oh KL one hundred percent. Of the time
and b flow. Yeah, so you don't even have to
watch on Sunday and noon. You can listen on the radio,
(35:11):
of course. But but it's a foregone conclusion. It is
written the Vikings will win the border battle. Now, well
you're saying that.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But the one thing that affects this conversation more than
anything in sports is the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, I know, and when your quarterback is in the
loves wonkie. But we have a whole different situation over
here right now. If JJ was a baby, he's still
learning how to walk now. Or you can go the
Caleb Williams comparison with he was tricking out of a
fire holes this first year. There you go.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Thanks for hanging out with me. Lavelle, Oh, always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's Lavelle Neil, the third columnist Star Tribune. Whether it's
the pieces you heard him reporting, and I think within
the last hour piece on on the curling trials and
what's going on in the massive curling community with the
Olympics on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He covers all sports.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's like a blanket and we love Lavelle for it,
even though he hat is in love with the seven
and three Bears, which is just stupid, but weekly guest
and we love him. Final segment is next full show today.
Thanks so much to Brett Blakemore for producing and whether
it was Lavell, it was guestling, it was Florio Parker
Foxen Studio and of course wild Head coach John Hines
(36:23):
kicking off the festivities. Just appreciate all the guests today.
Wild on these airwaves eight thirty pm pre game eight
fifty five puck drop hoping for two points there against
the visiting Canes. Valstad in net. It sounds like from
the coach himself. Wolves tonight at seven beat on the
awful Wizards and we move on, and that's really how
it should BEPA back here tomorrow opening the show with
(36:45):
the dagger. Wayne Lairvie voice of the Packers, will have
Ben Lieber charts in some fantasy bits lot going on
tomorrow on a Thursday. Thanks so much for listening to
the fan the grum Is Next, have a great afternoon
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Podcast Today's Allen Show, or listen back to previous show
and interview site going to the iHeartRadio app or kfan
dot com
Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, final hour Nord win for Pa. It's vocal maintenance.
He'll be back tomorrow. Lieber in the mix charchise some
fantasy footballsation doesn't brow maintenance. I think that was wax recently,
actually really eyebrow. Yeah yeah, now he technically he has two.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, no, he's you know, he just he went from
looking to like a poor man's George Clooney to a
poor man's Mark Boulger to a poor man's Albert Einstein.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And that is Lavelle Neil.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
The third columnists start Tribune, coming in hot your bears.
I do want to get to your bears, of course
you do. You guys have all emerged from fifteen years
of hibernating and now are out in public. You're wearing
your big you know, the orange and blue jerseys and
a sea on your calf, warging a little bit NFC North,
just just making knowing I contact with other Bears faithful
(01:02):
is now. You know, I used to worry about Packers
fans painting and toxifying my my communities, and it might
be Bears fans, but.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We're not coming out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're not arrogant, conceited painting or drinking miscreants like the
packer fan nation is.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I think that's perfectly worded. I think I couldn't agree
with you more.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You h O, B I got Brett Blakeboart's here. Now
I'll just show myself out. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh, I think I think you nailed it. That's weird
seeing him at the sink in the in the bathroom.
But any rate, you were in Sioux Falls covering the
curling trials. Yeah, and you hit me with first the
end of an era and then suddenly in Shaska where
I live, we might have world class Olympic curlers in
(01:47):
my midst Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, first of all, you know, I met John Schuster
at twenty fourteen, two weeks before he was headed to
the Olympics. I can't rememberhere the twenty fourteen the Olympics
were at. I was in the Loom Cafe downtown Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Was that in North Korea? Pyongyang? That's twenty eighteen? Oh,
my bed so sooci I think.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It was Socia. So I met him. I met Tyler, George,
John lands Segner, Matt Hamilton. Uh, they're in town, they're
they're getting ready to shove off to Olympics. The second
time I'm at John Schuster was twenty eighteen before he
went to Pio Yang and at Moose Country in Lily though,
which is now closed, and it was a week before
they were aheaded to the Olympics, and of course we
(02:29):
all know what happened there, a fantastic match against Sweden
when he put up the five spot in the in
the eighth end or maybe the ninth end to win gold,
and then just kept running into him after that every
now and then. So I've known John for over ten
years and cool the fact that he has gone to
five consecutive Olympics is just mind boggling to this. So
(02:49):
it was really a weird moment in Sioux Falls when
they lost to Danny Casper's team in the in the
finals of the US Trials. Danny Casper's team curls out
of the Tasca Curling Club, and I know the curly
Some curling people get mad at me about this because
apparently that center in Chaska's badass.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I haven't been there, I hear a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, so it's right next to this place, Crooked Pint, Okay,
so you can actually while you're in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is a crooked there's a crooked pint and sux falls.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, there there's one I think down in down in
Savage at thirteen and forty two. There's crooked pints all
over the place. Well, and you can sit and you
can get you can get your tall beer and your
burger and you can apparently watch.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I did not know this.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Danny Casper in an Olympic high end curling squad in there.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
All right, well local coming.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
People don't jump on me in this because I know
the team Peterson, the sisters. Tabatha is the skip in
taris one of I think she's the second on the team.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Man, you know a lot about curling.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They came out of the Saint Paul Curling Club. But
now on the curling website there Listen is coming out
of Taska now, so I think maybe he go there
to train. I don't know, maybe I get straight down
in that. But Minnesota is the capitol of curling the
United States. John Schuster was out of Chisholm, Minnesota. Chris
(04:11):
Plies his second was out, No, his third, he's out
of Duluth. Lansnight Lansteiner was up there too. Yeah, he
just retired. He got replaced by Colin Huffman. Colin Huffman
was born in Fairbanks, Alaska, but apparently it's in Minnesota
and now listened to Twin Cities. But people have moved
to the state of Minnesota because I.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Get the curling game mine.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I met Schuster up. We did nine and Noon did
a show up in Duluth and I got to meet
then initials here a few weeks ago. You may have
I think it is. Yeah, So anyway, Dar started every
Friday morning. I think at eight fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Danny Casper's like the young bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Schuster's forty three and Casper is twenty four and his
family is in the Green Bay area, but he grew
up on the East coast of New York and then
came moved year to get his curling game on.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's people who have.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Moved to Minnesota because of the curling uh infrastructure here
to take advantage of it. So so right now, both
Team Peterson and Team Casper have to go to British
Columbia to qualify for the Olympics. There's two spots left
in each field and they have to face eight or
seven other nations. We already to go to the twenty
(05:25):
twenty six Olympics in Italy. So so it was it
was it was a great run. And the thing is
these people are all friends. Like I got a story
that's either going online today or maybe maybe tomorrow about
like they all they like ringing, they do the airbnb bit,
all right, and so they both all these teams did
every B to B and shoe falls. Well, Casper ended
(05:47):
up in the house next to Shuster all week.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, So like there's by play going on during the
week their friends, so Casper come over and hang out
with them, you know. But the night Sunday night, when
Casper's team knocked off, Shuster emost of them moment, you know,
Colin Huffman, you know, was kind of composing himself while
he's trying to talk, you know, to NBC.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But Team Shuster walked.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Over to Casher's place at like eleven thirty at night
with pizza and they set to two am shooting the breeze, talking, curling,
hanging out, playing flues ball. You know, that's the Kernel
community for you. It's it's it's friendships built through competition,
which is very it strikes me very I find very
fascinating with this group.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So that's super cool. I'm I'm glad you were down there.
We didn't get to have you in studio into the
Bears week, but it's cool that you got to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I had the pleasure of covering the Beijing Olympics in
twenty twenty two, and it's got me activated about until
you got COVID the winner. Well, the guy in front
of me had COVID, not me. I was in close quarantine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This just activating me because there are thirty Minnesotas on
the Olympic team, starting with the curlers, with the hockey players.
You know, that's what I met. Brock Favor, Yeah, you know,
the women's team. Half the Frost was on it, Jesse Diggins,
you know, in all the skiers and everything.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It was just it was something right every day.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And so thirty seven Minnesotans, thirty thirty excuse.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Me, we're not going. We're not going to Italy this year.
It's just it's not cost effective anymore. And I get you,
I'm bummed out about it, but I still feel we
need to make sure we get these stories out about
our local athletes. And so yeah, I asked to go
to Sioux Falls so I could cover this and because
I know a lot of people care about curling.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
In the state. Oh that's awesome, man, I'm glad you did.
And can we hit the Covenant cleanup sounder? I know
you just beg to hit this every single time that
I feel like coven and clean up say stupid things
all of the time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
We just come from I'm covening and.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Clean up according to you, and I forgive up at
coven and clean Up sponsored by nobody. So the Olympics,
and it didn't sound right as soon as I said it.
The Olympics, I believe in twenty eighteen were in peong
Chang in South Korea.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, well you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
We corrected it said North Korea, because you did because
I say stupid things all of the time. So I
apologize for that grave error. You're not holding the Olympics
and just a communist wasteland.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But an hour and a half ago, my story dropped
on start tribune dot com about Danny Casper's brink being
a step close.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's on the website. Yeah, it's on the website right Noway,
so start tribune dot com. Levell, you came in you
started screaming Bear down like it was kind of an
ugly scene, and it was. It was off air and
hopefully the webcams weren't working at the time. Your team
seven and three, they beat my favorite team, very frustrating
big kick return and Kyro Santos found this is.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Into the studio here because I remember last last week
when we were talking, I was we're going through the standards.
I was again the Bears in this place, and then
there's a team in fourth place and Pa throws in
air not for long? Well how long at a bike
is gonna be the last place?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Now? Forty start claiming out of the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Cellar, Well, it's it's potentially going to be. It's going
to be the rest of the season, Lavelle. And then
you know what we're gonna do is we're gonna do
what your team did. We're gonna get a fourth place schedule.
We're gonna win thirteen games again with the kid QB,
and everything's gonna be fine. With that said, your team
seven and three, you have beaten now the seven opponents
a collective. I think it's like, let's call it nineteen
(09:18):
forty seven and one in that record. But as I've
been kind of saying, just framing it up. It's like,
but there's belief there, Like you, what are you thinking
about your Bears at seven and three? And just kind
of I mean, first of all, all respect Ben Johnson's
done a bang up job with this thing, and he
deserves a ton of respect for that. Dennis Allen finding
his way through injury with that defense, Like, what are
(09:39):
you loving about your Bears in the North right now?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I just like the fact that there's improvement and it
looks like, yeah, I believe, I've actually I'm on the
bearest texturing here in town. And of course I was like,
you know, belief is permeating throughout Hellas Hall right now
because they feel, like Slash Allery, they've got a game,
They've got a chance to win every game they play in. Now,
do they have like a Marquis singature victory. No, don't
you play the schedule that you've been handed to.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But listen, the.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Bears have been in the last place in the division
of how many years they haven't playing on the stream
of last play schedules, all right, and they still stuck.
So this is an improvement. And I will say this too.
We also forget this that uh, coaching malpractice has ruined
ruined this team. Last year Caleb Williams brought the Bears
(10:25):
back multiple times. They score fifteen points, like forty seconds
against the Vikers at home.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Lost that game.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They drove down the field, got within field gun range
of tying the Packers at home that got blocked. There
was a Washington fiasco. Oh yeah, and then there's a
Thanksgiving Day fiasco. All right, So it's four gan is
right there, Matt Evenflus just kicked just from coaching in aptitude.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh the Turkey Day. Yeah, could have called a time out,
but didn't exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So now these now these lates, these last second things
are being converted. Now they getting plays either a block
field goal, a timely passed to Colston Lovelin against the
worst tackling team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know, so it's working out.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Even you know, I was mad about I thought they
should have went four on fourth and five in the
fourth quarter, but it worked out.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
The pack the Vikers came down and took the lead.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And then is that when they kicked that last field goal,
there was that the one they did they punt, the
one they punted on okay, okay, and maybe a fourth
to seven.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know, but it was like at the forty
it was right and a weird I understand spot there.
And you know, uh, Carol Santos, who you know, he's
a source of constant debate among the bearest fans in
town about whether he's good or not. You know, he
missed that one field though, which would have made things easier.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think we hit the game winner. Doesn't he hold
a record though, like Robbie Gold? I mean, I just
picture is would Robbie Gold be considered maybe your longest
tenured or best kicker?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And then there was frustration because he ended up going
to the Niners and had some success there too.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, John Fox, he had one bad year and John
Fox punted him after that year, which was a mistake,
and he went to San Francisco and thrived again.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But I think Cairo holds your Bears record now in
like fifty yard plus field goals.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He might.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's up there in terms of like accuracy too, So
he's been functioning.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He doesn't have the big lake and you know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's we're in a We're in an era now where
damn near every kicker get hit a sixty yard except
Carol Santos, you know, except I don't think. I think
the during warm ups I was reading something that the
Bears of Porters group we're tweeting that he was hitting
fifty eight yards in warm ups before the Vikings game,
which was, Okay, that's good, that's that's outstanding for him.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's not bad.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But I mean it worked out. The Bears had a
huge kick return that. You know, it's a combination of
you know, them taking advantage of what they saw from
the Vikings plus as we saw Matt Daniels talking yesterday
about how everybody tried to be trying to play hero
ball on that h and got out of their space
outs Marina the gaps, Yeah, exactly, man.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And du Vernet's kind of I mean, you understated. I
can't necessarily say underrated. He had time to make Hay
in Baltimore and was just kind of a ham and eggs.
But the return game he's been nice man him and
what is it Blackwell the other guy, Yeah, Josh Blackwell.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, but you have two nice, nice players guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And you know, on our side of things, I'm thinking
all the penalties, I'm thinking all the miscues. Miles Price
has a kick return TD taken away because of a
holding penalty at Detroit, So we're loving on Miles, and
Miles fumbles it twice the next week against the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Now we're hating Miles.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Then he has the kick return this last week that
put the Vikings in a spot where it was two
plays Jordan Mason.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Into the end zone. So we're loving Miles again.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Outside of the kicker man, just the inconsistency with our
special teams in a year where we needed everything to
be solid, rock solid and reliable around the kid QB,
it's been anything but that, and your Bears are just
steamrolling ahead. You know, you don't even need NF caliber corners.
It appears as like your entire secondary is hurt. You
(14:05):
haven't had Gordon or Johnson a pro bowler. Yeah, did
he come back and then got hurt again or what
he did?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay? So did Kyler Gordon too? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Actually, Jalen Johnson's practice went opened last week, so he's
in line to get back on the field here shortly.
Cali Gorton should be here playing in the next two
or three weeks. T J Edwards, who is huge for
our run defense, is close to returning to So the
Bears defense has not been one hundred percent healthy all year.
The Vikers know about that because they had to wait
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out Van Ginko and and like Cashman, you know so.
But to continue Bears fan line here, the Bears don't
have the signature wins like New Englands eight and three,
but they can say we won at Buffalo and we
beat who's New England.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's fine. Nine, But they won it
flooding one in Tampa Bay. Those are two nice victories.
The Bears don't have that. And you know what's crazy too, though,
the nine and two Patriots they lost to those Raiders
that we saw the week on. How about that in
New England, by the way, like just kind of crazy
how seasons go. The Patriots might be the story of
(15:18):
the year. But in the North right now, it's your Bears.
You think they stay atop the North. I got my concerns.
I think it's still the kiddies. I got my concerns.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's because the defense hasn't been whole, and you like
to see everybody healthy. Our past rush is lacking still.
But once you have Edwards and Johnson and Kyla Gordon
in the mix.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That makes a difference, and we believe that that's going
to take place at some point in the next month.
That would have matched. Okay, so okay, but our schedule
now gets harder. Mason Rudolph at home, Well, they just
said he's not gonna have surgery.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Does that mean he's not gonna play I mean, I
don't know. I would imagine Rogers. This could be his
last time playing Rogers. He loves beating the Bears, and
he actually says nice things about Chicago, the city and
it's fans. He just likes the city. Yeah, you know,
but he enjoys beating the Bears.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
He still says that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So he can walk the streets in the off season.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, I know, he's talked about walking the streets and
people engaged him in conversations and enjoying those back and forth,
you know.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, so he stays, he stays on Michigan Avenue or
inside the Loop and he just, you know, he loves engaging,
but he says nice things so he doesn't get harassed.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So after Pittsburgh, the Pennsylvania Swing continues with the Bears
at Philadelphia on Black Fat Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Now is Philly at there? Are they playing at their
best right now? Absolutely not. They've got offensive issues with
Jalen Hurts and but the defense is badass. They still
win that game, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Then after that we've got Packers. I can't remember if
that first games at home or or away at at Lamboy.
Then we have Cleveland Browns and then Packers again. Yeah,
then forty nine Ers then and then the season against Lions
at the crib. Oh that is that is a yeah,
it is my goodness. I don't know how many wins
(17:02):
we're getting the rest of the way here. We got
to win.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You gotta get the Steelers. We got the Steelers game
after they at the Browns.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Give them eight wins, and then they have to cough
up two. You get to two, I gotta managed you
can be a wild card team. They beat the Steelers,
they go eight and three, they have six games left.
They if they go two and four they need to,
they'll be ten. They'll be ten and seven and they
that should be enough to get into postseason.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Right. Well, I was just I think it is. I
was trying to play this game like the Panthers are
kind of cool. You know, it's cool, cool story. They're
six and five. I think it's canal is down there.
He's done a pretty good job. And you see Bryce
Young throwing for four hundred plus yards.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But grand scheme. They he's a little better. He's better.
They've won with running and a good defense.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, And I wrote I wrote about this before the
Vikers game and said, you know, the JJ's looking at
Caleb over there on the other side of the field.
Caleb's a better quarterback and he was a year ago.
So J's gonna be better a year from now that
he is right now, and two years from now he's
gonna better, and he will be a year from now.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It just he's just gotta get out of the path.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Bryce Young, who I I don't like to He looks
like he weighs one hundred and seventy five pounds, so
I got concerns about him.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
He looks fragile, Yeah, but our is our quarterback. Fragile though,
I mean, whether in the knee. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Everyone gets the knee.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It feels like, I mean, that's not you know, an
impossible thing to suffer. The meniscous injury but then it's
the ankle. He's got a pad on his freaking hand.
Like I know, people, you know, it's like he's only
started five games. I get it, Well, he's been in
the league for a year and a half. Injuries have
to be part of the conversation with JJ.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He's a hockey player. You forgured he'd be tough enough
that to not have to worry about these things, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I couldn't. I couldn't believe. Two weeks ago they did the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Trick pass back to McCarthy and then they wanted to
set up a couple of blockers on like a third
and eleven and get JJ out running, and then he
dives head first and took just a nasty hit.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I don't need the kid taking those kinds of Yeah,
I wonder if one off koc called Ben Johnson for
that play. That was kind of not kocs sire.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, and then he didn't run at all in the
Bears game, staying in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Clearly, I think they got they got to move the
pocket with four him with a couple of times get
cut the field in half, lim roll out and cut
the field half a little bit FORMI say he can
make plays that way and.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Part of the adjustion in the game. Though, Dennis Allen
knows what he's doing, right. I mean, he was down
on the Bayou making memories for many years right at
corner and winning games.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And that he's been another point because I'm not a fan.
He's been around the ball so many times. But he
gets beat.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, he gets beat.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
But but he's got I think he's got four picks.
He's got fubber recoveries. You know, he's got the flashy
status you want from a defensive back.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But he's got to pick six against guy.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But people go at him. People go at Tarik Stevenson,
who's a little bit better. He's kind of moved on
from the whole Washington fiasco. But and we got some guy.
Dae McCleod is a third corner, I mean, and somehow
this has been without a strong pass rush, and Dennis
Allen's been able to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it was smart though, because they played the can
contain game a lot with McCarthy and you know, I'm
still trying to figure out what I think of Will
Fries at the guard spot. There were on one where
he nearly threw a third interception and Addison had to
come back and play defensive back. And I think it
was Stevenson and Brisker maybe that were they collided and
one of them was kind of hurt, like hurt his
(20:09):
own Remember that play yet, But Fries got knocked back
seven bleeping yards into McCarthy's lap, and if you look
at the situation, that wasn't a spot where he really
had any I think it had to be part of
the game plan with Dennis Allen where he's like, I'm
not letting you get out because there was not a
lot of room for him to get nimble and negotiate
(20:30):
if the interior.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of the pocket was collapsing. I don't think the Bears
blitzed a lot. I know, I know they didn't. Flores
was Flores.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Someone said that they clear he flit seventy percent of
the time against Caleb.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh. Eric Wilson was trying to live in the backfield
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, I was like, because he did not blitz Caleb
in week one, all of a sudden, he brought the
funk last week and it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, it's what Caleb wasn't great either.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
He he he over he overcooked some throws and missed
some guys who were open. JJ's just throwing fastball at
the fastball. He reminds me of Joseph Ayah, the guy
with the Tigers at a one hundred and three mile
hours passball. Didn't know what's going and they didn't have
a secondary pitch. No need to show it every time.
He needs a secondary pitch. Man.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's the you know. With Caleb.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'll say this, I'm not impressed by Caleb Williams in
the respect that I think that he's a high end
QB at this stage.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I'm just not He's out there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
However, he's not making those mistakes. He's nearly impossible to
be sacked, and he does have the ability athletically and.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Just kind of into it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like when JJ turned the brain off and you get
that final drive they take the lead. JJ shows those
glimpses of greatness and ability. Caleb has that too, so
he's not giving it to the other team. He's not
getting sacked sixty eight times, and he's making smart plays
in moments, even if in the end, I mean he's
bailing out on some of those deep throws and he's
not hitting them, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean the Doomsay was gone on a play.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
If he doesn't overthrow him, DJ Moore got loose and
he couldn't connect. I mean, that thing could have looked
way uglier than it did. I just he's not he's
not ruining games for you?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is that there is taker that Jay that McCarthy is.
McCarthy's been a risk taker man, he has. And I'm
just going on what last week's game against who you
guys lose to last week?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Not the Bears, Graves, the Ravens. Yeah, start if you
were counting what.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The TV folks claim that six of his picks were
on passes of trying to hit JJ Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Makes him make a seven now, So he's got seven of.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
His picks got to Bayern, Yeah, or on throws to
Justin Jefferson. So, which is weird because he's there's something
he's not doing right there? Because Jay, the other JJ
eighteen has caught passes from every freaking quarterback that KOC has.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Trotted out there, six or seven of them. Yes, he has,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Not working out with with with with McCarthy. So why
do you think that he's putting the ball. He's either
overcooking the fastball again. He's not putting it a pie
where only Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Can get it to. It's all the above.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, that's the frustrating thing is like from game
one through game five, you're not saying there's nothing tangible
to say that he's obviously regressed. There's nothing tangible to
say that he is obviously progressed because it might be
a pace issue or lack of touch, it might be
just blatant inaccuracy. You see bits, and then you see
the drive, like manufacturing three touchdowns fourth quarter Week one.
(23:21):
You see what he did in the Lions game, you
open up, I mean scoring on those first two drives
meant everything in that game at Ford Field. And then
you see the drive that he executed when you had
to have it to take the lead for about fifty seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So you see those bits, I think it's all of it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Like on that throw that he made that was picked
off by Byered, I think he needs to throw it
a second earlier. He needs to throw it before Jefferson
gets outside the hashes, where Byered can then come and
kind of bail on his guy near side and actually
affect that play.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And what does he do he picks it off.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
He's throwing it late, he's not processing it quickly, and
maybe you know, some of those.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Decisions that are being made are the wrong ones.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So game six, we just got to be patient with
the kid, right, It's.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
A process, man, Trust me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I've watched this with Mitch Trubisky justin fields and now
call Williams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
All right, that's Lavelli new the third. We're gonna pause.
When we come back. We are going to talk maybe
more border Battle specific because we have a diseased Packers
fan on the other side of the glass, and we're
just gonna get Lavell's thoughts on how these two teams
stack up.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Are we gonna talk USA Paraguay?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I mean, we're not talking about it. It's a big win.
Nordo World Cup twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was a butt. It was an ass kicking. Oh
a five to one, I think five one and you're gray.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Did not have this full team, but they still had
some high quality players. The defensive midfield was an unholy
alliance of Manchester United playing m Suarez and is he
he's not No, he wasn't playing. He's like thirty eight
years old.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Just check him.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They didn't have swore us. Maybe that was the issue.
I don't even know if he is from Uruguay. That
sounds right, but I could be very very wrong. But
I'm going to roll with it at any rate. Uh No,
we're not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You asked me if Diego four long play for them?
He's like forty two now.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh but he was good off the set pieces. Are
you kidding me? I love that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
When we return, we'll hit up some border battle and
continue the conversation with the Star Tribune columnist Extraordinary Levelly
Neil the Third as we continue nine to noon. All right,
(25:39):
kind of a dumb quick segment here, Leavelli Neil the
Third in studio, The Star Tribune, Thestartribune dot Com. It's
not dumb that Lavell's here, it's just dumb what I
planned for this particular segment. Lavell, Here's what's gonna happen.
Oh no, yeah, plan, Well, it's the border battle this weekend.
Brett is a diseased Packers fan. So just an almost
like baby game the way PA would frame it up style. Uh,
(26:02):
you are just going to arbitray various position groups and
who's got the better mix oh really, and it's it's
nice to sit on the throne.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
When you're team seven and three.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It must be nice to be able to peek your
head out and publicly proclaim to everybody that you are
indeed a Bears fan and you don't get laughed at.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, there's probably points of reverence.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I stopped at the clears on the way over here,
and I was in the clears and the guy was
in there with a Bears had on and I said,
bear down. He said, yes, sir, So they're they're it's
safe to come out now. If you're a Bears fan
in town and.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
There's a movement happening, allary iss got to be packed.
And maybe some will even try to steal some of
the love and try to become Bears Bears bars of
their own.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's possible. I think there's I think there's one until.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
They only win two down the stretch and find their
way out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I believe it is a West Metro Bears bar somewhere.
I know East Metro's Calleries is of course the epicenter
of Bears fandom and excitement and great barbecue as well.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yes, seven and three with a negative point differential, there's
a lot to be as happy about it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That's from that's from one game and one game only. Yeah,
this is just from one game.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
They all count, all right, So so simply enough here,
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep it tally here,
quick run through it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Quarterback's pretty obvious, right, love.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Is I mean, that's okay, that's hackers.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, it just happens to be, you know, Jacob McCarthy
think of it. If at Lilliams have to think about it?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
All right, Okay, how about this? How about this? Uh Brett,
you're running?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You have the best individual running back of the group
is Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Is he healthy? Causes knee?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think he's iffy to play, no permanent damage. It
sounds like as of.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Now questionable for this week. They say it's either this
week or next week.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So do we go on basein what's on the roster? Now?
Who's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Available Sunday can go and we can go in totality
if Jacobs doesn't play, that's clearly the Vikings. Yes, I'm
thinking Jacob's is the best singular back. I agree, but
I think that the stable in Minnesota is better. If
properly utilized.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, I actually guess k properly utilized.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I didn't say it. I'm just I'm just I'm just
shooting from the lip here. Offensive line all things considered,
from Dari Saw through O'Neill book and tackles versus Rashid Walker,
who's actually acquitted himself quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Jakins is out now right.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Elkton's out of the mix is Elton. I've never pronounced
that correctly, elg ten. I've Elton, el a gun el
Elton's fine Elton. Yeah, you can just call it e J.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's a big loss because he's he's so versatile for them.
I have to go Vikings have a better offensive line.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I would say that seed similar to your uh running back,
where you think Jacobs is the best individually, I think
CD is the best individual O lineman the two units. Really,
I don't think either O line is much to write
home about. I don't think the Packers A line is
playing particularly well, but I don't think the Vikings A
line has helped anybody, whether it be Wentz or Aaron
(28:59):
Jones or A J.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
So I really think you just have to go with
who is the least bad o line.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I think I would go Green Bay. Well, but
see he is the best individual blocker for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Since I'm arbitrating this, I'm gonna go on recency bias here.
The Bears were unable to stag J. J.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I watched Jordan Love get chased around the field by the.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
New York Giants. Yeah, all right, just say it. So
I'm leaning Vikings.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Right there we go.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Okay, it's two to one in favor of mine all
the team.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I will say the Giants have a badass defenseve line
with Brian Burns and Thibodeau and uh.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
On a crap team.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
By the way, you forget about Brian Burns having an
unbelievable season, like there's cool bright spots there even though
the coach was bad and had to go. And now
I think it's Northwestern's finest Kafka running the not the
philosopher Kafka, Mike Kafka, former Wildcats QB. All right, so
it's two to one Vikings. I like this.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Let's just get wide receivers. We all agree.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I mean, the best bit would be for me to go, oh,
we've got a bunch of depth, and we've got four
number ones and it's great.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, the that's tight.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Jordan Andison to be in a will receiver for the
Packers in a heartbeat, absolutely, although Golden Golden still has
a chance Christian Watch. No one knew he was on
the team and then he just emerges from the mist
and gets two against the ratty Giants.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Come on, gets injured. He gets very injured every week
he does. He never he can't stay on the field
for entire game.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
He's more fragile than my quarterback right now. Okay, don't
say things you don't mean. Eric, My goodness, tight ends,
what do we think Fitzpatrick Musgrave see, I like I
like my group better. I need eighty seven to h
to catch more passes. Wouldn't mind him breaking a tackle
once in a while, but he was also wide open
(30:43):
for an easy catch and run of thirty and the
kick QB overthrew him. I like I like my tight
ends with Oliver and company better.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I think two weeks ago, Yeah, we would have had
a really good conversation had been different with Tucker. Tucker
Craft is really good. Fucker's sweet and I think he
is as good as any tight end in the league
isn't bad Musgrave. I'm a musk Grave believer, but he's
he can't be used like a regular tight end. He's
got to be used like a receiver in a tight
end's body.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's his style.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
In fairness, I will concede Tucker should be part of
this maybe grand scheme conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I'd give it to them. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I like?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I said, That's why I want to ask who's that
healthy versus that's the roster Again, this is arbitr. It's
based on just the roster regardss to who's healthy. Then
I'll take the package.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think that's probably right. Okay, we got a better kicker.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Okay, sweet waymen, your kicker McMahon is injured.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Right, he's questionable.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So who kicked for general's question?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, well playing them even though he had a quad
injury and he kept telling him he's okay, and then
he keeps pulling kicks.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Go figure.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So have r sick as the record for the longest
field going Packer's history at sixty one yards.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So it's not bad to the defense defensive front. You
got Rashaan Parsons, I got Grenard and Van Ginkle.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
What do we think, well, Brett, which argument? I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I think Micah Parsons has paid the way that he
is for a reason. His pressure rates are unreal, and
he comes in clutch when the team needs him. He's
been their closer. And then Rashaun Gary's pretty good as well.
The fan learned, I gotta give it.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This is this is this defensive line of front seven.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Let's let's just go front because we're gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was very side edged to the Packers on this. Ye.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It was already they always it was already a good
front that got really good because of Parsons.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I love our guys tons of respect with Van Ginkle,
Cashman and In Grenard.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, that that's the thing though, I think the conversation changes.
Not even j Parsons, Jalen Redman has been fantastic. I'm
over all, I hate to say it, I've been disappointed
with Alan and Hargrave. Yeah, and I think you know,
and I'm not trying to pretend like Kolby Wooden is
a future all pro here, but it is kind of
impressive to move on from Kenny Clark. You're starting to
see the fruits of Devonte wat like Drake car we got.
(33:03):
I know it's tough that this is, this is is
very difficult. Now to the corners, I I actually I
think that the Packers corners benefit from that defensive front.
I actually like Isaiah Rodgers and Bira Murphy. Although Murphy
hasn't splashed like he did. I like our corners better
than Nixon. And I think it's Bullard.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Uh yeah, Bullard's there.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Valentine as well, Valentine the other two so Nate Hobbs
can't stay on the field. I like. I like my group.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Nate Hobbs getting out the field addition by subtraction probably
not be good acquisition. I think they're assaulid. Nixon and
Valentine are a solid pair. But Rogers when he makes plays,
I mean he impacts the field. I don't think Bert
Murphy has been as good as advertised. I would give
a slight lean, but I would also say the same
thing with I said at the O line. It's kind
(33:51):
of who is least bad out of these two cornerback group.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean give that the vikings here, I think we're
talking about two position groups that are not e laite
by any to the imagination. Okay, but I will give
the edge to the Vikings, and this.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Should the Bears particulous.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And then finally the safeties, and this is gonna pay
me because one of my favorite players in Purple, it's
just played his two hundredth games.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Is not gonna be good. I don't have this conversation, honestly.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean Xavier McKinney is damn good. And I think
Evan Williams he's not perfect. Dude tackles, dude, hits, dude
plays well.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Big pick. Last week, I got Theo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm still trying to figure out Mattelis and coverage.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I have to.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Give the I have to give the pack the safeties.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Mattelis man, it's hard to put a position on him.
He's kind of just like an Amiba that he kind
of like fills in whatever space that b flow wants
on that particular particular defense. You know, he could be
a line he could be like a linebacker. You'd be
like a safety, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So that's that's four to four. Give the kicker to
the Vikings. The Vikings win the border battle, we tie breaker, tiebreaker, tiebreaker.
Coaching staff oh KL one hundred percent. Of the time
and b flow. Yeah, so you don't even have to
watch on Sunday and noon. You can listen on the radio,
(35:11):
of course. But but it's a foregone conclusion. It is
written the Vikings will win the border battle. Now, well
you're saying that.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But the one thing that affects this conversation more than
anything in sports is the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, I know, and when your quarterback is in the
loves wonkie. But we have a whole different situation over
here right now. If JJ was a baby, he's still
learning how to walk now. Or you can go the
Caleb Williams comparison with he was tricking out of a
fire holes this first year. There you go.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Thanks for hanging out with me. Lavelle, Oh, always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's Lavelle Neil, the third columnist Star Tribune. Whether it's
the pieces you heard him reporting, and I think within
the last hour piece on on the curling trials and
what's going on in the massive curling community with the
Olympics on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He covers all sports.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's like a blanket and we love Lavelle for it,
even though he hat is in love with the seven
and three Bears, which is just stupid, but weekly guest
and we love him. Final segment is next full show today.
Thanks so much to Brett Blakemore for producing and whether
it was Lavell, it was guestling, it was Florio Parker
Foxen Studio and of course wild Head coach John Hines
(36:23):
kicking off the festivities. Just appreciate all the guests today.
Wild on these airwaves eight thirty pm pre game eight
fifty five puck drop hoping for two points there against
the visiting Canes. Valstad in net. It sounds like from
the coach himself. Wolves tonight at seven beat on the
awful Wizards and we move on, and that's really how
it should BEPA back here tomorrow opening the show with
(36:45):
the dagger. Wayne Lairvie voice of the Packers, will have
Ben Lieber charts in some fantasy bits lot going on
tomorrow on a Thursday. Thanks so much for listening to
the fan the grum Is Next, have a great afternoon
Speaker 4 (36:58):
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