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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Where are we headed to?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We may as well head to KC because that is
the a topic in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes acl tear.
It was an ugly, ugly moment they lose to the
Chargers and their playoff hopes are done. They're eliminated. It's
the first time I saw this on Twitter, so it
must be true. It's the first time that there has
been a playoff without a Mahomes, Brady or Manning since
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nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I did see that twenty seven years. I was two
years old at that point.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They're done, and it seems I mean that the injury
and the excuses there, well, I got injured, That's why
we didn't make the playoffs. A lot of other things
happened to put the Chiefs in this position. I had
a lot more injuries as well, but just a fat
l for the NFL, for the Chiefs, for Chris collins Worth.
Everybody upset about Mahomes Terrens ACL, well, I mean, I'm
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just as a fan of the game. I'm upset with
about him tearing his ACL. I mean, that's hideous and
you can never really predict when these things happen. And
I know the Achilles is different, but you think about
how this potentially creeps into his offseason, how it creeps
into potentially the preseason based on the timeline and everything
associated with him getting back to good again.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He I mean, he's given us a decade of brilliance.
What drafted twenty seventeen, I think, and then really from
twenty eighteen on, they've been in AFC title games and.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Multiple Super Bowls along the way.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Dynastic, brady esque when you're thinking about the way they
took this league by storm and just haven't given it back.
But to your point, other injuries, just inadequacy, aging in
some spots, lack of reliability. I think their run game,
you know, the Pacheco bit can be good at times,
not good enough. I mean they keep dusting off Kareem
(02:48):
Hunt and trying to make that a thing. And the
issues that they had this year went far beyond what
even a guy like Patrick Mahomes could handle. So they're
on their way out of the playoffs. Don't tear your
acl like that's just awful. Yeah, they were already gonna
I mean, they were gonna miss the playoffs. Sands a
miracle of some sorts, and and for this to happen,
(03:10):
I mean that's brutal. And you know it's not like
I have immense I'm not emotionally compelled by the Chiefs,
but you don't want to see the best go down,
not this way. So but but their season, Yeah, they're
season's done and I think it's Gardner Minshew handling things now.
And that'll be a team to watch in the off season, Like,
how do you come back from this, not just from
Mahomes's injury, but really from a team that was that
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was descending quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, they're gonna be drafting probably as high as they
ever have been a long long time.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The other game that really caught me attention.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And they'll nail it. They'll nail it draft of course
it will.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Of course, in the noon kicks, the Bills were down
twenty one zip to the Patriots in Foxbro And this
is what if you want to be an MVP, this
is where you go because Josh Allen is the third
time this season coming back from double digit that sits
the Bills, brings them all the way back when's thirty five,
thirty one, they're alive in the AFC East Race. That's
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just an MVP superstar caliber performance that we're used to
seeing from Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, and it's yeah, I mean he's he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Speaking of the MVP race, by the way, the Rams
beating the kiddies yesterday like they did Matthew Stafford. It
it's really been super close between Stafford and Drake May.
Drake May losing. I wonder how much this impact. I
didn't see it. I didn't see these odds prior to
the game, and what's different now. But Matthew Stafford far
and away at minus two fifty your favorite to be
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the league MVP this year.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
People fawning over him.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
At his age and what he's gone through and just
battling through everything. Now DeVante Adams hurt yesterday. That's something
to watch for any fans, maybe from a fantasy perspective,
at least locally. Drake May second at plus four, so
he's four to one and then Josh Allen is five
to one in terms of the odds right now for MVP,
Josh Allen is consonant MVB quality. The problem with them
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though is as their defense. So as Josh Allen over
the last five years has slowly grown, not even slowly
really year three on, he just woke up one day
and it's like, yep, accuracy issues fixed. I'm going to
probably turn it over a fair amount, but I'm gonna
make plays that will make your jaw drop on a
weekly basis. As he has ascended, the defense has slowly
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gone from dominant to mid lane to now. Good freaking
luck that Traveon Henderson run two of them, I think
two fifty plus runs yesterday, the sixty five yarder with
Drake May as the lead blocker.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Are you kidding me? As a matter of fact, I
think I found a highlight.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Now, New England goes to work from the I formation
to receivers to the left with May under center pass.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is it right for Trey Pion Henderson? The Bills haven't
depended well? He turns to pund to pack left.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
To stretch.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
For rat twenty five fifty ten to down pig three cuts.
Kidding me?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
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handling the call now that gives them the lead. Josh
Allen and the Bills drove right back down. I think
it was James Cook for a ten or eleven yard run.
They retook the lead thirty five thirty One's the final
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The fact that Josh Allen has had to come back.
Leads me to why I don't believe that the Bills
in the end will find themselves in a super Bowl.
And I'll stick to I mean, it's playing out and
it's not like I'm some kind of soothsayer. I'm wrong,
probably in regard to prognosticating way more than I'm right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But the way that Peyton has.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Bo Nicks rolling with this defense, if they hold on
to the one seed, I don't believe you can go
to Denver and win. So whether it's the Bills and
you look at all the potential, I mean, what a
cool season that the new head coach down in Jacksonville
is having.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They're a ten win team.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It did just a weird, weird AFC in terms of
some of the teams you're looking rising to prominence here.
The AFC North is just awful and that's just a
battle of teams that don't want to go to the playoffs.
It feels like with the way they're playing, even though
the Ravens won yesterday, but I just the Broncos for me,
it's not just like the Chiefs finding their way out.
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Chargers are game looking like a postseason team as well.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Ten win team.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But I just think that the Broncos if they get
that one seed, man, I.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Don't think you're winning at Mile High.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And we're all going to have to come to terms
with Sean Payton taking a second team to the Super.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Bowl as head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That that's gonna be a tough one. And I hope
that doesn't happen. I hope I'm wrong. What's just root
for me to be wrong. I think we can do that.
You got one or two more. I can do one
more here.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The other big NFC North matchup Bears and Browns, Shador
did not look good three innerce. His QBR was an eight,
an eight QBR, his passer rating thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The fan has learned.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, that's not very good against a Bears defense which
is good and takes the ball away a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They do, leading in takeaways as far as I know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So it's an all time bad performance, an all time
bad beat, and not even Miles Scarrett could bail him out.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Thirty one to three is the final.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ugly ugly, Well, it was ugly, and I think the
Bear not the Bears. The Browns had four or five
penalties in like their first six or seven snaps and
they were backed up at the doorstep, we got false starts,
we got delay at games. We just it was an
unprofessional operation at times, and Shudor was bad. I got
to give more credit to the Brown to the Bears, though,
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because I truly feel and this isn't even that, this
isn't a shot at Ben Johnson, who I think has
really taken this team by storm. It's not a shot
even at the team or the roster themselves. They've been
battling through injuries, specifically defensively all year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You know, we're hoping that that our quarterback in his
second year playing, as he gets to ten to fifteen
to twenty starts, can can find his way forward the
way that we're seeing from Caleb Williams. But they do
feel like the twenty twenty two Vikings, man, I mean,
just from the turnovers and the opportunism with the takeaways
on defense, despite being riddled with injury and putting the
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offense in terrific spots.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
With short fields.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
To this touchdown that Caleb threw the second one to
DJ Moore, I think it made a twenty one to three.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That is a freaking interception.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is an awful throw it is you getting browbeaten
in the meeting room on a Monday morning every single time,
and just the sky opened up and some sort of
weird thing. This was a mastery of physics combined with magic.
It just finds its way through the mud, through the mud,
right into the arms of DJ Moore. It was a
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terrible decision, but it worked out. And I just feel
like in some ways what we saw in twenty twenty two,
where you know, justin Jefferson making that one handed catch
of Buffalo, the defensive TD, the huge mistake at the
doorstep by Josh Allen, and just some of the way
the thing bounced our way, like everything is coming up.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bears.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The Bears are going to win the division, Brett, the
Bears are gonna win the North.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Maybe that is awful. Maybe Okay, maybe not. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We'll see, we'll see. Thank you for a little NFL
NORD brought to you. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong about
that too. I hope I'm wrong about the Broncos and
Sean Payton, I hope I'm wrong. I mean, the kiddies
are basically out of the mix. They got to win
out and get a little bit of help. I think
you're currently out of the playoffs. You're squad's in the
seventh spot, right, that is true.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But next week Green Bay goes to Chicago, so it's
all to play for Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's right.
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I got some text messages lined up in a couple
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Speaker 5 (12:08):
What would be considered a good rest of the last
three games or maybe the total of the last five
games As far as stats for JJ McCarthy, I think
around eight to ten touchdowns, a thousand yards and maybe
under three interceptions for the for the last five games
would be a good jumping off start for next year.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
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Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know what are we looking at here?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
From the most let me see the most recent game,
so bucks sixty three and three. People were looking at
that saying I needed more yardage out of it, but
you got all that help on the ground and the
shutout over the Commanders last week, and then last night
you get two fifty and two.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I mean, just a hideous They just pull that thing down.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
The first pass of the game, it gets batted, and
I think it's Quinn Williams who picks it off.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Just that that can't happen. So that has to stop, please.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh But but I like, okay, so over if we're
doing over the final five, I mean, if he's if
he's manufacturing two touchdowns a game and you are seeing
potentially if we can get that average to somewhere around
I'd say two to zero five ish, and and that
might be that might be a little bit lofty. Uh,
(13:24):
just if if Packers week eighteen have if you guys
have everything on the line, that's going to be a
tough one to get it around the gym potentially even
without you know this, this news with Parsons clearly changes
a lot of conversations with the with Halfley's defense in
Green Bay. Uh. But but still a formidable front as
it is. I don't think no, I don't think that's
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too lofty. I think if you walk into the season
saying that, so that would be a total of six
touchdowns over the final three. That would give him eleven
passing touchdowns. He does have the rushing TD from last night,
so that puts him eleven twelve. You get another one
on the ground, maybe we're talking eleven twelve, thirteen touchdowns.
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I do believe you're gonna probably see at least two
more interceptions over the final three, just as we've seen
part of part of the conversation. Again, whether it's it's
it's forcing it to Jefferson, just tough circumstances and again
some ill fated decisions, maybe specifically when it comes to
trying to force to throw around and an oncoming defender,
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or we're throwing the fastball into a spot it shouldn't go.
Whether it's the Giants, the Lions, or the or the Packers,
all of those teams have a right to disguise something
and make a play. So yeah, if you're seeing somewhere
in the over the final five games in totality two
to zero five a game, so roughly a thousand yards,
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like you said, Scotty, ten eleven twelve touchdowns to maybe
a three or a four ratio. I'm looking at that
and I'm saying that we we overall saw some pretty
good things over the final five. That that doesn't also
tell you, well, here we go there it is he'll
be in Drake May's conversation a year from now. But
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it tells you that there's a pulse and, as I've
stated a couple times, again, creating a new standard and
a new floor of expectations for what we should be
seeing out of the kid.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, I like this talkback. Why wouldn't we do this?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Hey Nordle, this is Deanna from zeraan Hi. I don't
like to project a comparison to Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Please.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Seeing JJ McCarthy make throws without perfect form and footwork
and scrambling to extend plays, it makes me think of
mahomes play style. Obviously, we've seen where Mahomes has taken
his team with Andy Reid's play calling. It is exciting
to imagine where the vikings could ascend to if we
have a balance between JJ's free balling and Kaos's play calling.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
What was that, Deanna? Now he's uh, thanks for the talkback.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In all that this is, this will probably be something
that has discussed uh freeballing jokes and parodies aside, thank
you for the talkback, not projecting a comparison to Mahomes,
But but the what where where I would go with
this is how much dialing in of the mechanics? Again
going back to all right, we're molding the player to
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meet the scheme, but we got to meet the scheme
to mold it to the player.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So is there a middle ground there where?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Now he's going to have the offseason, He's going to
be fully healthy, hopefully into this offseason, which will give
him some time maybe to work on some of those
mechanics and and some of the form that you see
from them. I mean that throw, that throw that he
made moving to his left last night. I think he's
coming down near side. They're going right to left on
the TV screen, and he he makes that fastball throw
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moving to his left to find Jalen Naylor, who for
the most part had pretty pretty good coverage on him,
but defenders turned around. Naylor makes a play on the ball,
gets a touchdown. That is an incredible throw. It looked
kind of wild. It looked kind of wild. And how
about form as it pertains to that deep throw on Addison? Now,
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I know he didn't get hit as he threw it,
but he had to get rid of it. Somebody the
cowboy was coming, and he underthrows Addison just a little
more arc on it than it needed to be. You
guys asked for touch, you guys asked for layering, and
now there's too much arc on it. When will you
be happy? But if he throws that with a bet in,
maybe with better form, then that's a walk in touchdown
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for Jordan Addison. But as part of this now we're
you know, I guess nitpicking in some ways, but these
are these are part of that conversation to form. So
I wonder what that middle ground is between the hyper
analysis of how he gets rid of the ball versus
knowing that that's how he gets rid of the ball.
And so now we're going to construct things to help
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him do his thing and free balls as we've.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Seen the last couple of games.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I'm excited for a time when we don't have
to talk about form or platform or base or any
of those things. So not ready to come in. We're
not comparing him to to Patrick, We're not doing that, Deanna.
But but yes, the the off platform, the ugliness of it,
you know, conversations about you know Josh Allen when he
was coming out into the NFL. We just watched him
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mean Philip rivers one of the all time weird throws.
But his release time was quick, so that's kind of
that's where you start playing. That's like man that looks ugly,
he gets it out of there fast and he made
a career out of it. Of course, so we've just
seen eight games from our guy, but when he's free balling,
at least recently, it's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thank you for the text and talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
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Speaker 2 (19:38):
Two in the backfield, Mason and ham Morton hold for you.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
One McCarty under center, snap, Mason handoff, Oh no, McCarthy
keeps it beautifully and doctors into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Burl Vikings touchdown. J. J.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
McCarthy with this third rushing touchdown, and that baked out
everybody at AT and T Stadium, including the.
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And Humphrey ballin.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh we all are right now, including the QB as
he gritties his way into the end zone after that
fake of all fakes.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That was a partial gritty.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Don't you think it was like a half gritty because
he didn't he it was a half gritty, but he
didn't like do the stop and look off to the
side and then like put three fingers in the air
with each hand in the circles and go bang.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, he didn't do the full one. Have you ever
seen Mike get SICKI attempt the gritty?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes for the dolphins. When he tried it, it was the best.
It's one of the most hideous things you'll ever see
in your life.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You know what was adorable about JJ yesterday on that
is that you know now that it's known that they
worked on that during practice and it worked every single time,
and he grittied at least once, and O'Connell was like
finger wagging coach, no, no, no, he started to do it,
but like a like a child thinking about thinking about
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dad or the superior to the half gritty.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Please everybody in the neighborhood saying, see, I did it,
but I ain't going to go full throttle here with
the gritty because I don't want to get yelled at.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well real quick on that, though, you know, it was
kind of painted a little bit based on the coaches
comments about it and then JJ McCarthy himself talking about
it that it was kind of contentious.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Did you feel that at all? Like it almost kind
of it almost.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Felt like, yeah, we kind of would have preferred he
didn't do the do the gritty into the end zone.
And then even JJ from his presser's side was, you know,
next time, I'll just roll in there, you know Emmett
Smith's style.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm in the building that Emmett built.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'm just gonna put the I'll just hand the ball
to the referee and call it good.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Right, Yeah, Now it would have been like showing up immortality.
Had McCarthy jumped in that Salvation army with kennl style
Zeke style and like popped up, then I'm the new
ze Well, that would have been different.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Or what if he sprinted out to midfield and knelt
on the star Holy Cow like t O back.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Wasn't that t O back in the day? Mane?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yes, Now, I don't know how closely you can hear it.
Excuse me with the drive bys, and I know we're
going to play him back. But when I walked up
to Jalen Naylor and I was chatting with him about
you know, when he went down, I thought I got
the wind knocked out of him. He's like nine, get
my head hard. And you see the at AT and
T Stadium where we're located. You know, at one point
(22:29):
during the broadcast, I said we might as well be
in Odessa. I mean, I got no problem with heights
because of binoculars. But it was it was so far
away where where Naylor caught that touchdown and you know
with the nail.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You were far left. If I'm watching on TV, yes,
oh my goodness, yes. And and it was it was
in tight quarters. So it was either Addison or nail Or,
and it was one of the two.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
But then Jalen goes down and and I thought I
saw Justin Jefferson run up next to him and like
get to a knee. Turns out it was Addison. So
I'm talking to Nailor and I'm like, you know, Justin
here man, let me.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
He just loves you.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
And it runs Jalen's like, I's like I didn't run
out to me, Like what wasn't you? And then hey,
how about that Addison fifty eight?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Holy cow? So that was that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It wasn't contentious, but it was a weird little moment
being between Justin and Jalen. I have not heard McCarthy's
postgame press conference, but that's something that did pop up,
that gritty situation.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But I mean, you know, us.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Man here at nine to noon, they all won the Vikings,
the Timberwolves, the Wild Christmas Colors made the biggest splash
since Parisian suit Her around the fourth of July twenty twelve.
The Alabama kid out kicked the supposedly out kickable and
Wilson and Cashman hit with full throttle speed. And that's
(23:50):
all I mean, it's that's all Wilson and Cashman know.
And Wilson's playing for maybe the biggest deal of his career.
And I put this together last night just simply because
I'm just so impressed with Eric Wilson and how he plays.
So permit me to fascinate you if possible with this,
Please do and praise fifty five a little bit for
what he's doing. His first deal twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen,
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undrafted from the University of Cincinnati, Eric Wilson three years,
five hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars a year, and
he got a ten thousand dollars signing bonus, so welcome
to the NFL. Then he goes on a series I
think it's six five, one year, one million and change deals.
(24:36):
But then the Quasy train pounced. Quacy train came rolling in,
and I'd forgotten this, and I guess I didn't look
at it closely enough. So, like Eric Wilson was getting
one point three million dollars from the Green Bay Packers
right around there on average, Quacy Train said we want you,
so he doubled it and they were right. So Wilson's
on a one year, two point six million dollar deal,
(24:58):
so they doubled his deal. Doesn't seem like that much,
but that's what it took to get him here. And
he leads the team and tackles for loss, He plays
all the defensive plays. Almost ran down Devin Douvername in
that Bears game. So the special team stuff is important
to Eric. And he's a freak man. I'm not kidding.
Eric Wilson's just a freak. God doesn't make many unique
(25:20):
like him, and I've seen a lot of them. So
I'm super happy for Eric Wilson and just the way
he's playing right now. But his first deal, man, he
got a ten thousand dollars signing bonus, and now at
this stage of his career, like a decade into it,
he's sitting on a pretty sweet deal.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, he's sitting on a deal, and that goes into
you know, I was talking. I was kind of just
at this stage of the game, playing out the string.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And you mentioned Blake Cashman. I think he led the team.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
He had ten or eleven tackles last night, and he
needs the machine that he's been this year when he's
on the field, and Lever is just kind of like,
you know, what is this like kind of implying the
fact that you guys aren't in.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The postseason, right?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And I think even it was kind of paraphrase like
playing for fun at point and just kind of realizing
how much is on the line for these guys. And
so while we focus on it and it's just like
it's a bad year, it's tough, you know, just forget
about the whole thing to see in a game in
prime time, by the way, where the Cowboys need this
(26:17):
for everything in their season. They needed that win last
night and now it's about over. They a fair number
of that team knew they weren't going to the postseason, right,
They knew it was over. And you can look at
the stats and you can see, okay, four hundred plus
yards of offense, but whether it's the force that you
saw Wilson and Cashman playing with Grenard, who's clearly working
(26:38):
through an ongoing shoulder issue that got the best of
them late in that game. Van Ginkel to see the
effort and to see the heart that these guys play
with and then flip that to the offense with the
guys surrounding and protecting McCarthy. There is a beauty to
that in terms of getting this type of play at
this time of year, albeit in a disappointing season, the
(27:01):
positive things that still continue to emanate from it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And I'm really glad you said what you said about
Will Fryes when I was driving him, because you know,
like analyzing guard play can be quite tough when you
don't know what double they're supposed to hit, how quickly
they're supposed to get off of it to get a
linebacker or a safety or like you know, back in
the Dakota Dozer days, when he was getting pushed straight backwards,
(27:26):
Well that was easy for everybody to figure out that
that's happening repeatedly and it's probably not preferred and Dakota
catching strays right, But well, Kenny Clark's about to catch
one too, but it's not his fault, actually, Scott Novak,
because Kelly Ryan, Kelly, Oh he jumped, he jumped the route. Yeah,
first play of the game, right, well it was it
was early. Yeah it wasn't. Maybe it was for it
was first play. Then we got your guy Donovan Wilson
(27:50):
tip in the pass and quinnin Williams picks it off
and here we are. But like so, Kelly looked like
he got trucked there. But I mean Clark jumped off
side and caught him off guard.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, well that just doesn't happen to Will.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And you know I'm not, you know, like I said
in those drive bys, I think maybe to Ryan Kelly.
You know, I ain't trying to make Will Fries sound
like a cross between Steve Hutchinson, Randall McDaniel and Marshall Yonda.
But to start every single game in a season where
they've had twenty two to twenty three, twenty four offensive
line combinations, you got Brandal. Oh, by the way, as
a Brandle evergot to tell you that from Seattle. Wife
(28:22):
approached me in the lobby saying, Blake's never going to
approach you on this. But it's not Brandella, it's Brandle Brandle.
So Brandle's over a right tackle and you got school
at left tackle. Playing his best game wearing the colors. Meanwhile,
through all of it, Will just starts every single game. Yeah,
Will's there every single game. After the Friday practice when
I go over for Kevin O'Connell's press conference and watch
(28:45):
the final part of practice. Like this last week, Will
Fries was off to the side. I mean, you've got
players walking out of the indoor practice facility heading into
a Friday before leaving to Dallas on a Saturday, and
Will Fries is there for at least a half hour
work with Walter Rausse and they're going over like guard
related technique. So that's who Will is. I heard him
(29:06):
on a Vikings country with Max Fuller a couple of
tuesdays ago and I think it was Tuesday and just
so happy, go lucky, but really good at what he does.
And so that that's a testament to what you said
about that desire and the infatigable nature. But I understand
you have a very interesting segment coming up around the corner.
So yeah, I'm gonna stop talking. Because injuries to high
(29:32):
high enders was the common thread this weekend. I heard
you talk about Mahomes, you got Parsons and Puka de Coo.
I'm not exactly sure what happened to Puka. Well, Puka
was just cramps. I believe it was cramp.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But DeVante okay, hurt and I don't know exactly what
happened to Devonte. Late stages of that went over Detroit.
But yes, DeVante is the one that's imperiled, and my
feelings got hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
In Second Harvest, Heartland got stuck because Finch can't pick
wide receivers. Yeah, we learned that puts us on George Pickens.
I mean seriously, it's like he's like Michael Beasley, not available.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He needs to focus on the pick and roll, not
George Pickens. Well, not the Pickens', Roll, chris it's the
pick and.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
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one hundred and eighty yards, yesterday he goes down with the.
Cramps as you, Mentioned i'm, angry Like i'm actually watching
the game with. Anger get into the every six, Points
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this nobody's had any. POINTS i think that is the.
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boom boom boom zero zero.
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Zero, well how About Alec Trevor lawrence through touchdowns to
basically every person on the team yesterday except For Jacoby.
Myers so, yeah we're we're we're in it right, now
but we care as In Fantasy.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Cares i'm curious to hear What sinny has to say
about That Packers broncos, game BECAUSE i didn't get to
see any of.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It bus rides and getting ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
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looked to be it looked to be a. Humdinger, yeah but,
man you, KNOW i want to, Say denver just has
a horseshoe esconced so far up its collective.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Booties in some, ways part of that may be. Right
what is?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
It eleven in a? ROW i mean eleven in a
row for quarterback. Bow eleven in a row for quarterback.
Bow it's, unbelievable and they're putting themselves in the.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Spot AS i was talking about, earlier they're in a
spot now where if they get the one seed and
everything goes Through Mile, high it is really difficult to
envision The broncos not finding their way to the Super.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Bowl, yeah it's AND i know you picked that team
to go to THE Afc Title game and that and
that was a really really good prognostication with the second
year quarterback and empower At Mile high is a very
very difficult place to play when those fans jump on
top of. You, YEAH i mean it's the stands are
super close to the sideline and the benches and it's
(31:56):
just an amazingly, cool rocky mountain get high atmosphere with
the white horse rolling around the, field it's super.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Cool they might get that. One, yeah that's, So but
we got to do. This we gotta. Pause we're going
to open. Up you will Hear PA's drive bys from
yesterday in the locker room during the final hour as.
Well but we will spend a short segment around the,
corner as we do every, week The border battle.
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With Dave sinek in the head.
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Cheese tough loss for his team on the, field but
potentially moving, forward the loss Of Michael parsons and what
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right now. I'm not going to spoil all right, I
don't want to.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Where are we headed to?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We may as well head to KC because that is
the a topic in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes acl tear.
It was an ugly, ugly moment they lose to the
Chargers and their playoff hopes are done. They're eliminated. It's
the first time I saw this on Twitter, so it
must be true. It's the first time that there has
been a playoff without a Mahomes, Brady or Manning since
(01:24):
nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I did see that twenty seven years. I was two
years old at that point.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They're done, and it seems I mean that the injury
and the excuses there, well, I got injured, That's why
we didn't make the playoffs. A lot of other things
happened to put the Chiefs in this position. I had
a lot more injuries as well, but just a fat
l for the NFL, for the Chiefs, for Chris collins Worth.
Everybody upset about Mahomes Terrens ACL, well, I mean, I'm
(01:53):
just as a fan of the game. I'm upset with
about him tearing his ACL. I mean, that's hideous and
you can never really predict when these things happen. And
I know the Achilles is different, but you think about
how this potentially creeps into his offseason, how it creeps
into potentially the preseason based on the timeline and everything
associated with him getting back to good again.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He I mean, he's given us a decade of brilliance.
What drafted twenty seventeen, I think, and then really from
twenty eighteen on, they've been in AFC title games and.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Multiple Super Bowls along the way.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Dynastic, brady esque when you're thinking about the way they
took this league by storm and just haven't given it back.
But to your point, other injuries, just inadequacy, aging in
some spots, lack of reliability. I think their run game,
you know, the Pacheco bit can be good at times,
not good enough. I mean they keep dusting off Kareem
(02:48):
Hunt and trying to make that a thing. And the
issues that they had this year went far beyond what
even a guy like Patrick Mahomes could handle. So they're
on their way out of the playoffs. Don't tear your
acl like that's just awful. Yeah, they were already gonna
I mean, they were gonna miss the playoffs. Sands a
miracle of some sorts, and and for this to happen,
(03:10):
I mean that's brutal. And you know it's not like
I have immense I'm not emotionally compelled by the Chiefs,
but you don't want to see the best go down,
not this way. So but but their season, Yeah, they're
season's done and I think it's Gardner Minshew handling things now.
And that'll be a team to watch in the off season, Like,
how do you come back from this, not just from
Mahomes's injury, but really from a team that was that
(03:32):
was descending quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, they're gonna be drafting probably as high as they
ever have been a long long time.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The other game that really caught me attention.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And they'll nail it. They'll nail it draft of course
it will.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Of course, in the noon kicks, the Bills were down
twenty one zip to the Patriots in Foxbro And this
is what if you want to be an MVP, this
is where you go because Josh Allen is the third
time this season coming back from double digit that sits
the Bills, brings them all the way back when's thirty five,
thirty one, they're alive in the AFC East Race. That's
(04:07):
just an MVP superstar caliber performance that we're used to
seeing from Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, and it's yeah, I mean he's he's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Speaking of the MVP race, by the way, the Rams
beating the kiddies yesterday like they did Matthew Stafford. It
it's really been super close between Stafford and Drake May.
Drake May losing. I wonder how much this impact. I
didn't see it. I didn't see these odds prior to
the game, and what's different now. But Matthew Stafford far
and away at minus two fifty your favorite to be
(04:36):
the league MVP this year.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
People fawning over him.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
At his age and what he's gone through and just
battling through everything. Now DeVante Adams hurt yesterday. That's something
to watch for any fans, maybe from a fantasy perspective,
at least locally. Drake May second at plus four, so
he's four to one and then Josh Allen is five
to one in terms of the odds right now for MVP,
Josh Allen is consonant MVB quality. The problem with them
(05:01):
though is as their defense. So as Josh Allen over
the last five years has slowly grown, not even slowly
really year three on, he just woke up one day
and it's like, yep, accuracy issues fixed. I'm going to
probably turn it over a fair amount, but I'm gonna
make plays that will make your jaw drop on a
weekly basis. As he has ascended, the defense has slowly
(05:21):
gone from dominant to mid lane to now. Good freaking
luck that Traveon Henderson run two of them, I think
two fifty plus runs yesterday, the sixty five yarder with
Drake May as the lead blocker.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Are you kidding me? As a matter of fact, I
think I found a highlight.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Now, New England goes to work from the I formation
to receivers to the left with May under center pass.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is it right for Trey Pion Henderson? The Bills haven't
depended well? He turns to pund to pack left.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
To stretch.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
For rat twenty five fifty ten to down pig three cuts.
Kidding me?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
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handling the call now that gives them the lead. Josh
Allen and the Bills drove right back down. I think
it was James Cook for a ten or eleven yard run.
They retook the lead thirty five thirty One's the final
(06:21):
The fact that Josh Allen has had to come back.
Leads me to why I don't believe that the Bills
in the end will find themselves in a super Bowl.
And I'll stick to I mean, it's playing out and
it's not like I'm some kind of soothsayer. I'm wrong,
probably in regard to prognosticating way more than I'm right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But the way that Peyton has.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Bo Nicks rolling with this defense, if they hold on
to the one seed, I don't believe you can go
to Denver and win. So whether it's the Bills and
you look at all the potential, I mean, what a
cool season that the new head coach down in Jacksonville
is having.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They're a ten win team.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It did just a weird, weird AFC in terms of
some of the teams you're looking rising to prominence here.
The AFC North is just awful and that's just a
battle of teams that don't want to go to the playoffs.
It feels like with the way they're playing, even though
the Ravens won yesterday, but I just the Broncos for me,
it's not just like the Chiefs finding their way out.
(07:22):
Chargers are game looking like a postseason team as well.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Ten win team.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But I just think that the Broncos if they get
that one seed, man, I.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Don't think you're winning at Mile High.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And we're all going to have to come to terms
with Sean Payton taking a second team to the Super.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Bowl as head coach.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That that's gonna be a tough one. And I hope
that doesn't happen. I hope I'm wrong. What's just root
for me to be wrong. I think we can do that.
You got one or two more. I can do one
more here.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
The other big NFC North matchup Bears and Browns, Shador
did not look good three innerce. His QBR was an eight,
an eight QBR, his passer rating thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The fan has learned.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, that's not very good against a Bears defense which
is good and takes the ball away a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They do, leading in takeaways as far as I know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So it's an all time bad performance, an all time
bad beat, and not even Miles Scarrett could bail him out.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Thirty one to three is the final.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ugly ugly, Well, it was ugly, and I think the
Bear not the Bears. The Browns had four or five
penalties in like their first six or seven snaps and
they were backed up at the doorstep, we got false starts,
we got delay at games. We just it was an
unprofessional operation at times, and Shudor was bad. I got
to give more credit to the Brown to the Bears, though,
(08:46):
because I truly feel and this isn't even that, this
isn't a shot at Ben Johnson, who I think has
really taken this team by storm. It's not a shot
even at the team or the roster themselves. They've been
battling through injuries, specifically defensively all year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You know, we're hoping that that our quarterback in his
second year playing, as he gets to ten to fifteen
to twenty starts, can can find his way forward the
way that we're seeing from Caleb Williams. But they do
feel like the twenty twenty two Vikings, man, I mean,
just from the turnovers and the opportunism with the takeaways
on defense, despite being riddled with injury and putting the
(09:24):
offense in terrific spots.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
With short fields.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
To this touchdown that Caleb threw the second one to
DJ Moore, I think it made a twenty one to three.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That is a freaking interception.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It is an awful throw it is you getting browbeaten
in the meeting room on a Monday morning every single time,
and just the sky opened up and some sort of
weird thing. This was a mastery of physics combined with magic.
It just finds its way through the mud, through the mud,
right into the arms of DJ Moore. It was a
(09:56):
terrible decision, but it worked out. And I just feel
like in some ways what we saw in twenty twenty two,
where you know, justin Jefferson making that one handed catch
of Buffalo, the defensive TD, the huge mistake at the
doorstep by Josh Allen, and just some of the way
the thing bounced our way, like everything is coming up.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bears.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
The Bears are going to win the division, Brett, the
Bears are gonna win the North.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Maybe that is awful. Maybe Okay, maybe not. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We'll see, we'll see. Thank you for a little NFL
NORD brought to you. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong about
that too. I hope I'm wrong about the Broncos and
Sean Payton, I hope I'm wrong. I mean, the kiddies
are basically out of the mix. They got to win
out and get a little bit of help. I think
you're currently out of the playoffs. You're squad's in the
seventh spot, right, that is true.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
But next week Green Bay goes to Chicago, so it's
all to play for Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's gonna be a fun game. Sadly, Well, no, we're
not going to bring that up now. Nope, nope, we're
not going to bring it up. But your team's up
against it. Let's Seattlela Floor's operations. He handles it in
the final three. That's NFL do nord and we're gonna
pause and then when we come back we'll continue chatting.
I got some text messages lined up in a couple
of talkbacks here that will jump into is we're having.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Fun out of Monday. It's NORDO in for PA. For now.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
The host is gonna rejoin the mix. We're gonna have
the border battle with Sinnecon and eleven. If you missed
the drive bys that PA did after last night's victory
over the Dallas Cowboys in the locker room, we will
replay those during the final hour and just have fun
on a Monday, celebrating we got a hockey team's got
a new cat that delivered in his debut the Wolves
winners is seven of eight Vikings win yesterday, first time
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all three of one in a day since two thousand
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Speaker 2 (12:06):
Thanks Scotty, over to andover.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
What would be considered a good rest of the last
three games or maybe the total of the last five
games As far as stats for JJ McCarthy, I think
around eight to ten touchdowns, a thousand yards and maybe
under three interceptions for the for the last five games
would be a good jumping off start for next year.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, thanks for the talkback, talkbacks in play free iHeartRadio app,
hit the microphone, give us up to your best thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know what are we looking at here?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
From the most let me see the most recent game,
so bucks sixty three and three. People were looking at
that saying I needed more yardage out of it, but
you got all that help on the ground and the
shutout over the Commanders last week, and then last night
you get two fifty and two.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I mean, just a hideous They just pull that thing down.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
The first pass of the game, it gets batted, and
I think it's Quinn Williams who picks it off.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Just that that can't happen. So that has to stop, please.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Uh But but I like, okay, so over if we're
doing over the final five, I mean, if he's if
he's manufacturing two touchdowns a game and you are seeing
potentially if we can get that average to somewhere around
I'd say two to zero five ish, and and that
might be that might be a little bit lofty. Uh,
(13:24):
just if if Packers week eighteen have if you guys
have everything on the line, that's going to be a
tough one to get it around the gym potentially even
without you know this, this news with Parsons clearly changes
a lot of conversations with the with Halfley's defense in
Green Bay. Uh. But but still a formidable front as
it is. I don't think no, I don't think that's
(13:47):
too lofty. I think if you walk into the season
saying that, so that would be a total of six
touchdowns over the final three. That would give him eleven
passing touchdowns. He does have the rushing TD from last night,
so that puts him eleven twelve. You get another one
on the ground, maybe we're talking eleven twelve, thirteen touchdowns.
(14:08):
I do believe you're gonna probably see at least two
more interceptions over the final three, just as we've seen
part of part of the conversation. Again, whether it's it's
it's forcing it to Jefferson, just tough circumstances and again
some ill fated decisions, maybe specifically when it comes to
trying to force to throw around and an oncoming defender,
(14:29):
or we're throwing the fastball into a spot it shouldn't go.
Whether it's the Giants, the Lions, or the or the Packers,
all of those teams have a right to disguise something
and make a play. So yeah, if you're seeing somewhere
in the over the final five games in totality two
to zero five a game, so roughly a thousand yards,
(14:51):
like you said, Scotty, ten eleven twelve touchdowns to maybe
a three or a four ratio. I'm looking at that
and I'm saying that we we overall saw some pretty
good things over the final five. That that doesn't also
tell you, well, here we go there it is he'll
be in Drake May's conversation a year from now. But
(15:12):
it tells you that there's a pulse and, as I've
stated a couple times, again, creating a new standard and
a new floor of expectations for what we should be
seeing out of the kid.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, I like this talkback. Why wouldn't we do this?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Hey Nordle, this is Deanna from zeraan Hi. I don't
like to project a comparison to Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Please.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Seeing JJ McCarthy make throws without perfect form and footwork
and scrambling to extend plays, it makes me think of
mahomes play style. Obviously, we've seen where Mahomes has taken
his team with Andy Reid's play calling. It is exciting
to imagine where the vikings could ascend to if we
have a balance between JJ's free balling and Kaos's play calling.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
What was that, Deanna? Now he's uh, thanks for the talkback.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In all that this is, this will probably be something
that has discussed uh freeballing jokes and parodies aside, thank
you for the talkback, not projecting a comparison to Mahomes,
But but the what where where I would go with
this is how much dialing in of the mechanics? Again
going back to all right, we're molding the player to
(16:31):
meet the scheme, but we got to meet the scheme
to mold it to the player.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So is there a middle ground there where?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Now he's going to have the offseason, He's going to
be fully healthy, hopefully into this offseason, which will give
him some time maybe to work on some of those
mechanics and and some of the form that you see
from them. I mean that throw, that throw that he
made moving to his left last night. I think he's
coming down near side. They're going right to left on
the TV screen, and he he makes that fastball throw
(17:03):
moving to his left to find Jalen Naylor, who for
the most part had pretty pretty good coverage on him,
but defenders turned around. Naylor makes a play on the ball,
gets a touchdown. That is an incredible throw. It looked
kind of wild. It looked kind of wild. And how
about form as it pertains to that deep throw on Addison? Now,
(17:26):
I know he didn't get hit as he threw it,
but he had to get rid of it. Somebody the
cowboy was coming, and he underthrows Addison just a little
more arc on it than it needed to be. You
guys asked for touch, you guys asked for layering, and
now there's too much arc on it. When will you
be happy? But if he throws that with a bet in,
maybe with better form, then that's a walk in touchdown
(17:50):
for Jordan Addison. But as part of this now we're
you know, I guess nitpicking in some ways, but these
are these are part of that conversation to form. So
I wonder what that middle ground is between the hyper
analysis of how he gets rid of the ball versus
knowing that that's how he gets rid of the ball.
And so now we're going to construct things to help
(18:10):
him do his thing and free balls as we've.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Seen the last couple of games.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I'm excited for a time when we don't have
to talk about form or platform or base or any
of those things. So not ready to come in. We're
not comparing him to to Patrick, We're not doing that, Deanna.
But but yes, the the off platform, the ugliness of it,
you know, conversations about you know Josh Allen when he
was coming out into the NFL. We just watched him
(18:37):
mean Philip rivers one of the all time weird throws.
But his release time was quick, so that's kind of
that's where you start playing. That's like man that looks ugly,
he gets it out of there fast and he made
a career out of it. Of course, so we've just
seen eight games from our guy, but when he's free balling,
at least recently, it's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thank you for the text and talkbacks.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We're going to continue down this trend here because I
believe I believe the host of nine to Noon Pa
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with him up to the top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
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Speaker 2 (19:38):
Two in the backfield, Mason and ham Morton hold for you.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
One McCarty under center, snap, Mason handoff, Oh no, McCarthy
keeps it beautifully and doctors into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Burl Vikings touchdown. J. J.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
McCarthy with this third rushing touchdown, and that baked out
everybody at AT and T Stadium, including the.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Announcer that's the host to Night to Noon as part
of the call last night down in Dallas, thirty four
to twenty six the final, the Vikings win and the
host is back.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The host came back the very next day. How you doing, brother?
And Humphrey ballin.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh we all are right now, including the QB as
he gritties his way into the end zone after that
fake of all fakes.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That was a partial gritty.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Don't you think it was like a half gritty because
he didn't he it was a half gritty, but he
didn't like do the stop and look off to the
side and then like put three fingers in the air
with each hand in the circles and go bang.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, he didn't do the full one. Have you ever
seen Mike get SICKI attempt the gritty?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes for the dolphins. When he tried it, it was the best.
It's one of the most hideous things you'll ever see
in your life.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You know what was adorable about JJ yesterday on that
is that you know now that it's known that they
worked on that during practice and it worked every single time,
and he grittied at least once, and O'Connell was like
finger wagging coach, no, no, no, he started to do it,
but like a like a child thinking about thinking about
(21:07):
dad or the superior to the half gritty.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Please everybody in the neighborhood saying, see, I did it,
but I ain't going to go full throttle here with
the gritty because I don't want to get yelled at.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well real quick on that, though, you know, it was
kind of painted a little bit based on the coaches
comments about it and then JJ McCarthy himself talking about
it that it was kind of contentious.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Did you feel that at all? Like it almost kind
of it almost.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Felt like, yeah, we kind of would have preferred he
didn't do the do the gritty into the end zone.
And then even JJ from his presser's side was, you know,
next time, I'll just roll in there, you know Emmett
Smith's style.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm in the building that Emmett built.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'm just gonna put the I'll just hand the ball
to the referee and call it good.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Right, Yeah, Now it would have been like showing up immortality.
Had McCarthy jumped in that Salvation army with kennl style
Zeke style and like popped up, then I'm the new
ze Well, that would have been different.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Or what if he sprinted out to midfield and knelt
on the star Holy Cow like t O back.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Wasn't that t O back in the day? Mane?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yes, Now, I don't know how closely you can hear it.
Excuse me with the drive bys, and I know we're
going to play him back. But when I walked up
to Jalen Naylor and I was chatting with him about
you know, when he went down, I thought I got
the wind knocked out of him. He's like nine, get
my head hard. And you see the at AT and
T Stadium where we're located. You know, at one point
(22:29):
during the broadcast, I said we might as well be
in Odessa. I mean, I got no problem with heights
because of binoculars. But it was it was so far
away where where Naylor caught that touchdown and you know
with the nail.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You were far left. If I'm watching on TV, yes,
oh my goodness, yes. And and it was it was
in tight quarters. So it was either Addison or nail Or,
and it was one of the two.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
But then Jalen goes down and and I thought I
saw Justin Jefferson run up next to him and like
get to a knee. Turns out it was Addison. So
I'm talking to Nailor and I'm like, you know, Justin
here man, let me.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
He just loves you.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
And it runs Jalen's like, I's like I didn't run
out to me, Like what wasn't you? And then hey,
how about that Addison fifty eight?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Holy cow? So that was that.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
It wasn't contentious, but it was a weird little moment
being between Justin and Jalen. I have not heard McCarthy's
postgame press conference, but that's something that did pop up,
that gritty situation.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But I mean, you know, us.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Man here at nine to noon, they all won the Vikings,
the Timberwolves, the Wild Christmas Colors made the biggest splash
since Parisian suit Her around the fourth of July twenty twelve.
The Alabama kid out kicked the supposedly out kickable and
Wilson and Cashman hit with full throttle speed. And that's
(23:50):
all I mean, it's that's all Wilson and Cashman know.
And Wilson's playing for maybe the biggest deal of his career.
And I put this together last night just simply because
I'm just so impressed with Eric Wilson and how he plays.
So permit me to fascinate you if possible with this,
Please do and praise fifty five a little bit for
what he's doing. His first deal twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen,
(24:15):
undrafted from the University of Cincinnati, Eric Wilson three years,
five hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars a year, and
he got a ten thousand dollars signing bonus, so welcome
to the NFL. Then he goes on a series I
think it's six five, one year, one million and change deals.
(24:36):
But then the Quasy train pounced. Quacy train came rolling in,
and I'd forgotten this, and I guess I didn't look
at it closely enough. So, like Eric Wilson was getting
one point three million dollars from the Green Bay Packers
right around there on average, Quacy Train said we want you,
so he doubled it and they were right. So Wilson's
on a one year, two point six million dollar deal,
(24:58):
so they doubled his deal. Doesn't seem like that much,
but that's what it took to get him here. And
he leads the team and tackles for loss, He plays
all the defensive plays. Almost ran down Devin Douvername in
that Bears game. So the special team stuff is important
to Eric. And he's a freak man. I'm not kidding.
Eric Wilson's just a freak. God doesn't make many unique
(25:20):
like him, and I've seen a lot of them. So
I'm super happy for Eric Wilson and just the way
he's playing right now. But his first deal, man, he
got a ten thousand dollars signing bonus, and now at
this stage of his career, like a decade into it,
he's sitting on a pretty sweet deal.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, he's sitting on a deal, and that goes into
you know, I was talking. I was kind of just
at this stage of the game, playing out the string.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And you mentioned Blake Cashman. I think he led the team.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
He had ten or eleven tackles last night, and he
needs the machine that he's been this year when he's
on the field, and Lever is just kind of like,
you know, what is this like kind of implying the
fact that you guys aren't in.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The postseason, right?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And I think even it was kind of paraphrase like
playing for fun at point and just kind of realizing
how much is on the line for these guys. And
so while we focus on it and it's just like
it's a bad year, it's tough, you know, just forget
about the whole thing to see in a game in
prime time, by the way, where the Cowboys need this
(26:17):
for everything in their season. They needed that win last
night and now it's about over. They a fair number
of that team knew they weren't going to the postseason, right,
They knew it was over. And you can look at
the stats and you can see, okay, four hundred plus
yards of offense, but whether it's the force that you
saw Wilson and Cashman playing with Grenard, who's clearly working
(26:38):
through an ongoing shoulder issue that got the best of
them late in that game. Van Ginkel to see the
effort and to see the heart that these guys play
with and then flip that to the offense with the
guys surrounding and protecting McCarthy. There is a beauty to
that in terms of getting this type of play at
this time of year, albeit in a disappointing season, the
(27:01):
positive things that still continue to emanate from it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And I'm really glad you said what you said about
Will Fryes when I was driving him, because you know,
like analyzing guard play can be quite tough when you
don't know what double they're supposed to hit, how quickly
they're supposed to get off of it to get a
linebacker or a safety or like you know, back in
the Dakota Dozer days, when he was getting pushed straight backwards,
(27:26):
Well that was easy for everybody to figure out that
that's happening repeatedly and it's probably not preferred and Dakota
catching strays right, But well, Kenny Clark's about to catch
one too, but it's not his fault, actually, Scott Novak,
because Kelly Ryan, Kelly, Oh he jumped, he jumped the route. Yeah,
first play of the game, right, well it was it
was early. Yeah it wasn't. Maybe it was for it
was first play. Then we got your guy Donovan Wilson
(27:50):
tip in the pass and quinnin Williams picks it off
and here we are. But like so, Kelly looked like
he got trucked there. But I mean Clark jumped off
side and caught him off guard.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, well that just doesn't happen to Will.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And you know I'm not, you know, like I said
in those drive bys, I think maybe to Ryan Kelly.
You know, I ain't trying to make Will Fries sound
like a cross between Steve Hutchinson, Randall McDaniel and Marshall Yonda.
But to start every single game in a season where
they've had twenty two to twenty three, twenty four offensive
line combinations, you got Brandal. Oh, by the way, as
a Brandle evergot to tell you that from Seattle. Wife
(28:22):
approached me in the lobby saying, Blake's never going to
approach you on this. But it's not Brandella, it's Brandle Brandle.
So Brandle's over a right tackle and you got school
at left tackle. Playing his best game wearing the colors. Meanwhile,
through all of it, Will just starts every single game. Yeah,
Will's there every single game. After the Friday practice when
I go over for Kevin O'Connell's press conference and watch
(28:45):
the final part of practice. Like this last week, Will
Fries was off to the side. I mean, you've got
players walking out of the indoor practice facility heading into
a Friday before leaving to Dallas on a Saturday, and
Will Fries is there for at least a half hour
work with Walter Rausse and they're going over like guard
related technique. So that's who Will is. I heard him
(29:06):
on a Vikings country with Max Fuller a couple of
tuesdays ago and I think it was Tuesday and just
so happy, go lucky, but really good at what he does.
And so that that's a testament to what you said
about that desire and the infatigable nature. But I understand
you have a very interesting segment coming up around the corner.
So yeah, I'm gonna stop talking. Because injuries to high
(29:32):
high enders was the common thread this weekend. I heard
you talk about Mahomes, you got Parsons and Puka de Coo.
I'm not exactly sure what happened to Puka. Well, Puka
was just cramps. I believe it was cramp.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But DeVante okay, hurt and I don't know exactly what
happened to Devonte. Late stages of that went over Detroit.
But yes, DeVante is the one that's imperiled, and my
feelings got hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
In Second Harvest, Heartland got stuck because Finch can't pick
wide receivers. Yeah, we learned that puts us on George Pickens.
I mean seriously, it's like he's like Michael Beasley, not available.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He needs to focus on the pick and roll, not
George Pickens. Well, not the Pickens', Roll, chris it's the
pick and.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Roll, well And pooka did EVERY i mean that's now
that there's The fantasycares Dot org been to this.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Thing, yeah we've bottomed.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Out i'm finding myself Watching, puka who had an like
one hundred and eighty yards, yesterday he goes down with the.
Cramps as you, Mentioned i'm, angry Like i'm actually watching
the game with. Anger get into the every six, Points
pooka is three hundred bucks for feed my starving. Children
let's freaking.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Go do you know Since fantasycares Dot org got involved in,
this nobody's had any. POINTS i think that is the.
Case two consecutive, weeks, You alec and me have gone
boom boom boom zero zero.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Zero, well how About Alec Trevor lawrence through touchdowns to
basically every person on the team yesterday except For Jacoby.
Myers so, yeah we're we're we're in it right, now
but we care as In Fantasy.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Cares i'm curious to hear What sinny has to say
about That Packers broncos, game BECAUSE i didn't get to
see any of.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It bus rides and getting ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
STUFF i was following it on my phone and it
looked to be it looked to be a. Humdinger, yeah but,
man you, KNOW i want to, Say denver just has
a horseshoe esconced so far up its collective.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Booties in some, ways part of that may be. Right
what is?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
It eleven in a? ROW i mean eleven in a
row for quarterback. Bow eleven in a row for quarterback.
Bow it's, unbelievable and they're putting themselves in the.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Spot AS i was talking about, earlier they're in a
spot now where if they get the one seed and
everything goes Through Mile, high it is really difficult to
envision The broncos not finding their way to the Super.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Bowl, yeah it's AND i know you picked that team
to go to THE Afc Title game and that and
that was a really really good prognostication with the second
year quarterback and empower At Mile high is a very
very difficult place to play when those fans jump on
top of. You, YEAH i mean it's the stands are
super close to the sideline and the benches and it's
(31:56):
just an amazingly, cool rocky mountain get high atmosphere with
the white horse rolling around the, field it's super.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Cool they might get that. One, yeah that's, So but
we got to do. This we gotta. Pause we're going
to open. Up you will Hear PA's drive bys from
yesterday in the locker room during the final hour as.
Well but we will spend a short segment around the,
corner as we do every, week The border battle.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
With Dave sinek in the head.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Cheese tough loss for his team on the, field but
potentially moving, forward the loss Of Michael parsons and what
that means for The green And. Gold final hour, ahead
It's pa now With nordo and With Brett blakemore it's
nine to noon on The.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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