December 19, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Nine to noon on your favorite radio station. F N
one hundred point three k f A N is ten nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
UH.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The the UH philanthropic portion of the equation has been
season long for nine to noon on the Friday foot Ballfeast.
A few weeks ago, we fell into a charitable sponsor,
Scott Fish with fantasycares dot Org made it available to
Nordo Alec and yours truly from fantasycares dot Org for
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Paul as in Paul Charchion Fantasy segments during the year,
fantasycares dot org is gonna put up fifty dollars per point,
all right, that thing currently stands at seventy three hundred dollars.
Why do I remember that because it's been a seventy
three hundred dollars for the last two weeks. Ever since
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have taken goose eggs two consecutive weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, what a bunch of loser moves by us
with others suffering. So we're looking to turn that brown
upside down. And by the way, Chris Finch, coach of
the Minnesota Timberwolves, with the charity of my choice, Second
Harvest Heartland. A couple of tuesdays ago, we had finchy
on told him about the bit. He put us on
a zero with George Pickens. That's fine, but he said,
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whatever number I end up with during the year, he's
gonna match.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So we got to start putting up some numbers.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Boys yea in honor of Paul as in Paul chargiim
and thus the fantasy component to it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
We only have three of these left. I feel good
about this week.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We have running backs this week. The only rules are
we can't use the same player twice. Six points for
rushing and receiving touchdowns, four points for passing touchdowns. And
I have fifty four points. Alank has fifty two, Nordo
has forty. Nordo goes first.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Who do you like? Well? This feed my starving children.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I feel like could be there could be a points
related feast this weekend, and it's going to come on
the legs and the catching hands of the Jon Robinson
Bsjon Robinson at the Cardinals. My stats that I looked up,
nobody close to me looked it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Up.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I did fish third most running back scores allowed, that
being the Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon's defense five in just
the last two weeks alone, and it's crazy. He's one
of the most used players in the NFL. Bijon Robinson
only eight total tds I believe this year, but that's
going to change this weekend at Arizona. Bjeon Robinson is
going to get feed my starving children paid in a.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Big way, and the Kyrie Jackson Foundation was the charity
of choice for at ALEC underscore Lewis via the X machine.
Please follow him if you are so inclined. Who is
your running back going to be? And hopefully we make
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Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm so glad Nordo left me. Saquon Barkley, Oh wow.
Saquon Barkley is the Eagles running back. You might know him, Oh,
I've heard of him. They play the Commanders this weekend
and the stats that I brought for you today are
you saw the Commanders two weeks ago and you know
what that defense is, as do I and Saquon against
that defense feels like a very strong mismap. So Saquon
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Barkley Eagles. They're coming off the thirty one zero spot
against the Raiders. You know they're gonna be motivated against
this divisional team. So Saquon, I feel really really good
about this Fantasy Cares. There's gonna be some money involved
with the Kyrie Jackson Foundation after this weekend. I just
I just know you gotta be kidding me with I
mean this is I've done these feasts for a decade
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and a half, all right, so we've had philanthropic ties,
maybe not to this show, but other things. Scott Fish
with Fantasycares dot Org, who comes to the feast, and
he's the one that runs it. He's the one that's
making the fifty dollars a point available. I mean it's
he provides Nordo with Elite v Jon Robinson Intel. He
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helps me come up with James Cook, all right, and
then drops in front of me like some Browns related
run defense sup that Quite honestly, I'm probably not gonna find.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So I'm taking. So it's like it's it's not masochistic, no,
but it's ten or more thousand dollars is going to
come out of Fantasycres dot Org.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And he's actively helping us, and the one delivering.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's the one helping. It's the most beautiful thing ever.
It's a Christmas story. I was just I was just
walking in here. Scott was getting out of his car
at the same time this morning, and we changed pleasantries.
He joined us at the radio the other day. Just
thanking him for that. Yeah, I said, hey, you know,
I'm thinking about going bijon.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It just hits me with stats. Why don't I get stats? Well, well,
because you're the scrit it didn't show up early. Okay,
you send the doc. I mean you you you don't
need it. You're you, You're.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
A self proclaimed to lead football mind. You don't need
this the way I've never self plucked out. Uh So.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Courtesy of mister Scott Fish and fantasycres dot Org The Cleve.
I'm taking James Cook running back Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The Cleveland Browns have allowed lead allowed lead running backs
to score five consecutive games seven total to last week
to the week four, and the Bills are gonna get
up on the Browns and run the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Hey, I like this equation. So I'm taking James Cook.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I got James Cook for for second harvest Heartland. Let's
go Finchy. Let's go Finchy tonight too. By the way,
against Oka, see they need they need one, and Alex
Lewis selects sa Kwan Barkley with his fifty two points.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Who's Philly playing again? The Washington Mans right?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And Nordo goes with Bijon Robinson Fantasycaars dot org. Thank
you very much. Uh, let's up. Let's let's take a
left turn here for a couple of minutes. Since it
just came up. Why do you say, uh, becase off
off the Memphis loss because the the Timberwolves won a
bunch of games before that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, they don't need I mean, look,
they're they're playing the Thunder. The odds are probably very
long that they beat the Thunder because they're the Thunder.
I just a midweek game at home on Friday against
the pretty nine on this tonight is but Tibet like the.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Memphis game the Sun's game. It's like if if the.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Wolves are playing a midweek game against a pretty average
team at home and it's really cold cold outside, they're
somehow going to lose that game. That's just how I
feel when I flip them on. So, yeah, I know
they didn't have ANT the other night.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
The offense shouldn't have mattered. It shouldn't have and the
offense was future. And it's just my expectation for this
team should be that a midweek game at home against
a pretty average team, you gotta win that game.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's why I say that about the Timberwolves, Well, it's worrisome.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, they're seventeen and ten, So for the most part,
you like that record. I believe they were. That's a
better record than they were at this time last year. Yeah,
but other than just kind of fodder like between us,
we can say it kind of seems sometimes like they're
bored that they're bored against. Whether it's bad teams you're
mentioning midweek matchups. Well, when you start hearing that stuff
from guys like Ant and you start getting that implied
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inside the locker room, I mean, we saw even a
year ago how much playoff positioning mattered, where ultimately one
game separated like the sixth seed from the third see
and and so at this time of the year, losing
a midweek game to Memphis potentially matters in what is
set to be another muddy Western Conference fight.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Anthony Edward's best player on the timber Wolves, questionable into
the game like he was early in the week. I'm
telling you right now, according to lista's point spread changes
and ain't playing tonight. Oklahoma City's favored by seven and
a half, okay, And I know that they're better than
the Wolves, and they're the best team in the league.
Seven and a half is a road favorite. That's kind
of a dead indicator that old Anthony ain't gonna play.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The Wolves need a point guard. They need another point guard.
So I don't know how Tim Connelly, I know, I
know he's he's moving and shaking and he's always active
and in the market. Like you hear that all the
time about Tim Connelly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But on TJ McConnell from the Pacer seats watching last night,
he's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, he only plays eleven to fifteen because he's forty
five years old.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But what you're gonna give up to get him, you
know all? And I agree with it. And if you
get twenty.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Five thirty from a regular base, I think he's a
plug and play ten twelve dime guy that is the
the epitome of field general despite being of the of
the elder Bryant twenty pis move him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They wouldn't, They wouldn't part with them with that on.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
The team's a disaster and they need ask plays like
eight minutes a night, maybe seventeen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He'sa don't use him. He's a leader, he's a a guy.
That would TJ McConnell be a good answer.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I was thinking, because everyone's talking about, you know, John
Morant in some of these higher end names. I get
that potential allure is, but you can't afford it. To
your point, you can't afford it. You can afford a TJ.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
McConnell. And he steps in and participates.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Jose Alvarado, the d League can afford TJ McConnell too.
At age at age thirty eight, Jose Alvarado, Wow, what
was that? What what did you put on? Jackson Dart
right out of the gate, the red bull, bit red bull,
mountain bike cliff jumper.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Guy, that's Jose Alvarado.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I don't I put that's just that's fine, wild right,
That's okay as a like point guard, backup ish type.
But I'm sure if you want your quarterback to be
throwing his head in.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
There like a linebacker. Get out of there. If we're
if we're getting in the weeds.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well they got this himy Jaquez himI Miami.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean he's I think the fans would like him.
All right, let's pause.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Hey, when we return, we're going to unfurl some bikes bites.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm gonna get a microphone.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Come out into the crowd and uh we If you
have any Vikings related questions for alec and or Nordou,
prepare them now. The announcers coming out to the crowd
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shirt if you're nice to the street team. But Nordo
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Okay, you've heard warm the cockles of a heart, right,
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Speaker 3 (12:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We got some very very very pertinent questions and or
comments for vikes Bites. First, Lisa for Meeden Prairie. What's
your question?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
My question is for Aleck Aleck. How is the marketing director? Hey,
how's the marketing director? Young? Alec? Great question.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Lisa, the marketing director for the Alex Lewis Show is
doing really really well. It's probably busy at work right now. Oh,
maybe she can buy you a new car?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
All right? What's your name? Where are you from? Austin
Harper from Apple Valian.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh, Austin Harper as in Austin's thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Hey, how about that? All right? You have a Vikes
bike question? What's your question? Can you promise me Justin
Jefferson will get a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh, Austin wants a promised birthday gift. That and he's
wearing an eighteen that Justin Jefferson will score a.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Touchdown this weekend?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Should we at the press conference after the press conference today? Hey, Kevin,
we got Austin Harper. He's thirteen years old. He needs
a Justin touchdown? Can continue to promise that? Well, well,
I'll pass past Kevin the message as best I can.
I can't promise it, but well we'll tell Kevin after
the press converse.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think I think that I can promise you that inside.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That building, they really really want JJ McCarthy to throw
a touchdown pass to Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That would be it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It may not be the biggest issue on the to
do list or the chure list for these cats, it's close,
but they really totem really, I mean really want McCarthy
to find eighteen in the end zone this weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's yeah, that'd be a nice birthday for you. In
that sweet little eighteen. Wait what'd you say, ali Oh,
Austin Alex said, if you give him that eighteen jersey,
he'll bring it to the facility today and get Jefferson
to sign it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
WHOA, I would need some help from spearfish.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But yeah, fairness and negatives act. He's gonna have to
go be in a room a fellow journalists, and I
don't want him to be teased for that. So Alex
never said that, and he never would say that. The
objectivity would be in question. Those obscure dot coms that
Austin never will know about layoff Young Alley. Here's a
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Vikes Bite related question. JJ McCarthy at the New York Giants,
what do you guys expect?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I expect more of what we've seen over the last
two games, and again creating a new standard. So whether
you're leaving it to the kid growing up or you're
leaving it to the defenses, he's faced he's facing another
target rich opportunity this weekend against the Giants who are
awful in just about every defensive category and so limiting sacks,
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making smart decisions that pass rush can get after you
with burns. You were talking about Dexter Lawrence in the
fact that he's been limited via double teams on the
interior and that's allowed a dual carter to grow up
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Big game for him last weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And then Brian Burns, who's really been their best defensive
player for the totality at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But in the end, we saw.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Other than a Kenny Clark jumping it against Ryan Kelly
moment they can get after you or as a Roku
was a pretty good rookie for the Cowboys, mitigating that
pass rush and and then finding the open opportunities. Sometimes
it comes at the sacrifice of Justin Jefferson in the
fact that the Jalen.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Naylors are going to be open, the TJ.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Hawkinson's are going to get more opportunities because of what
defenses are doing against Number eighteen. But but I actually
I think the same blueprint we've seen two weeks ago,
in the growth steps that have become leaps for number nine.
I would be actually very very disappointed if we did
not see something similar to what we've seen the last
two weeks. Okay Vikes bites provided by Thousand Hills Lifetime
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Speaker 2 (15:40):
What's your name where you're from. Ken from the Yellow Bar.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
After watching last night, what's our record with Sam Darnold
if we had him with still?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh? What a good question?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Do you think if the Vikings had Sam Donald this year?
What do you think do you think Alex would be?
What a good question. It was a heck of a
game last night. We're going to ask that at the
presser today.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Hey, Kevin, uh No, Sam Donald, what would the record be?
It would probably be what are they six and eight? Yeah,
I'd say it at least ten and four, probably ten
and four, at least I would say, I mean, I
will I will. One of the aspects of why Sam
Donald has been good this year and was so good
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last year was that the Vikings played with the lead
for so many of the games, and the Seahawks have
played with the lead for a ton of games. So
if you flip the script and Sam is playing trailing
and having to throw all year, then they're probably just
not as effective. But Sam is still I mean against
pretty average defenses. You're Steelers of the World. You're I
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mean a lot of these teams, the Chargers of the World,
like Sam Donald is probably gonna move the football and
he's still really talented.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Vikes bides. What's your name and where you're from? John
Cassi from New Richmond, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hello, John, How are you welcome to US Banks Stadium?
What's your question?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
My question is, so we've got three games left, two
against division opponents. We've got the Lions and we've got
the Packers. What would it mean to this fan base?
What would mean to this team for the Vikings to
squash the hopes of both the Lions and the Factors
and have some momentum going in the next season.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is from a fan perspective,
what six and eight Radio truly sounds?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yes, Dashing dreams. Well, I can tell you I'm not
a reporter. I'm not a member of the media. You
asked a question because I think it matters to you.
It matters the hell to me as well. Momentum in
terms of roster turnover and what changes in the offseasons
tough to capture that momentum. The QB is a real thing.
Momentum of individuals is a real thing. And how good
again six and eight Radio, we're talking about in the
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in the final hour, we're going to talk about like
offensive rookies of the year in NFL at large conversation
because our team's out of the mix. Can you picture
just ruining the Christmas dreams and the kiddies? Can you
picture that final? Whatever the playoff positioning is for the
pack Bears, on the cusp of winning the division, we
send the Packers home sands, Michael Parsons and an opportunity
to play in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Smashing dreams.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Maybe all we have taking others down to make ourselves
feel better might be in vogue, but that's what we have,
and let's just go freaking do it.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
All right, let's go with you more. What's your name?
Where you from? Kyle? From Megan? This is the lie?
This is the lie. Yeah, your question? This is the
Lions guy. Do you know JJ's college record when he
was in college? Was he like twenty nine and one?
It was like twenty seven and one?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, twenty seven to one? Okay, cool? What are you
trying to win? Like Buffalo wild wings trivia up on
the screen? Yeah, right on many Merry Christmas? Yep, God
bless you good to see him? All right? Any other
questions here? All right? Last one that was it? What's
your name?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Where you from? Jason from Plymouth? The Vikings defense is
number one in the NFC against the pass, the pass
yards per game. Just curious, how with the Giants wanting
to run the ball so much, how can the defense
be ready Sunday to defend the run.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
That's a great question. That's a great question. I was
gonna save this for the end, but I'll just say
it now. The two ways that the Vikings lose this game,
the only two ways really for me, are are just
ridiculous turnovers offensively, yeah, or allowing Tracy they're running back
Tyrone Tracy Junior to go off. He's a pretty explosive guy.
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And so to answer the question, I'd expect the Vikings
to kind of load it up five man fronts, two
linebackers on the field and force the Giants to beat
you on the ground. I also, I mean, one of
the ways that you'd mitigate that aspect of the game
would be grabbing a lead early in the game.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Make Jackson Dart have to beat you through the air.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And if you can do that, I really don't see
a path where that the Giants had to win this game.
Even though the line is probably like three points.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Let's and you know what, I couldn't hear you back there,
so if you said this, I apologize. But it does
bear mentioning simply because it's six and a radio.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But this is legitimately good.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The Vikings have not given up a pass touchdown for
five consecutive games. The last time I think the last
time it got to six for a team was twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen the New England Patriots. So five consecutive without
a touch passing touchdown, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Lastly, I do have a vikeby for you, Christian Darosol.
Christian Darosol, left tackle did not practice Wednesday and Thursday.
Personally speaking, I'm not expecting him to practice today. I
got no idea where this thing's heading. But nevertheless, two
consecutive DMPs. You're the journalist, your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, the Christian Darosol situation, it's been a journey all
season to kind of report on this one. Cover it,
follow it, try to get at it from a factual standpoint.
I'm with you that I would not expect him to
play Sunday against the Giants, and you'll.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I didn't go that far. I said, practice today.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, practice today, but obviously that that would be Sunday
if you don't practice all week, and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I wouldn't bet play.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like the thing that you know, people would ask me,
why don't they just shut him down?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I mean, it's it's essentially from what it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Sounds like and the way Kevin O'Connell has talked about it,
like he's dealt with the little nie swelling and you know,
he's he's he's been in spots in recent weeks where
he can play, and he has played, and so wanting
JJ McCarthy and prioritizing his development, you would hope that
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Christian would be in there to be able to protect
him and maximize JJ McCarthy. But this has been an interesting,
I mean, one of the most interesting injury situation I've
covered since I've been on the beat here in twenty
twenty two, since I mean, he's always been kind of
an interesting, uh personality. I've enjoyed getting to cover him,
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for sure, And and just the hope would be that,
you know, more than a year removed from this injury
now into the offseason, that you get to next season
and this thing does not stick around in terms of
just the dynamics.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Of what this has been all season.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Those are Vikes bites from Buffalo Wild Wings Apple Valley
nine to noon continues after this, Hey, Apple Valley, Apple Valley.
Your attention, please, your attention. Please. We know this is
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the Friday football Feast, but it also is the Friday
four checking feast.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
All your Minnesota Wild do are?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Is?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
When in what we're calling Quinnesota and they and they
won again last night and they planned to stay that
way of this week.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And you know last night who Matt Boldy Baldy Baldy
a round six in a row? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Six in a row for the Minnesota Wild. That's sweet
all in regulation too? Are they not even messing around
with the Ots? Just getting her done? And they beat
Epison last night after beating ov and uh they got
Edmonton is here on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Do we get a little heat check?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh wait, a second heat check Sunday night, Sunday at five,
Colorado's back in town looking for some more in that shootout.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Okay, Alan roach box of all boxes over in a box.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That'll be sweet, all right, So congratulations to uh coach
Heines and the Minnesota Wild. Now, uh, before we uh
we get into some players of the Year and stuff
like that. Kirk Cousins had had a part of his
press conference with the Atlanta Falcons that had some viral
to it. We played some of it nine to noon
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yesterday and chatted about Kevin O'Connell, Sean McVay, the Rams offense,
things like like Matthew Stafford never had been considered an
MVP quarterback in his career. Now he's a Super Bowl
winner and he might be the MVP this year. O'Connell
with the offense here Cousins and things he did with
O'Connell and kind of what Kirk was explaining a few
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days ago. It matters and it resonates, and I know
it's resonated with Alex Lewis at ALEC Underscore Lewis via X.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But first, speaking of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
With the college football playoffs beginning this evening, Oklahoma is
hosting Alex Alabama Crimson Tide. Alex is from Aniston, Alabama,
in case people didn't know it, and he loves the Crimson.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Tide, Roll tad Roll Tide.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So that triggers a question off the benching of Tuwatunga
Bai looa, like what was he like A I mean
I know he was good at Alabama. I'm not a
lead college football mind, and he's had mo in the NFL, Like, how,
why and when did this thing just completely fall off?
And by the way, with the Dolphins, if the Vikings
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are looking for a veteran backup quarterback next year.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Absolutely not, thank you. Can I finish this off? Sure?
What was I gonna talk about? I don't know, that's
what I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
He's going with Zach Wilson, right, it's if Zach Wilson plays, Uh,
that's somebody actually to watch if you're looking for context
or layer ring. But clearly I was the only one.
So with Tua Tounga by loa, like where did it
fall off? Why did it fall off?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And when? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I mean in college he debuted in the second half
of the National Championship game against Georgia and made an
unbelievable game winning throw to Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And at that point, I mean, it was just electric arm.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It felt like it was like whippy arm action, really athletic,
kind of could move around, dart around in the pocket. Yeah,
And I mean he suffered a hip injury late in
his college career, still became a first round pick after that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But you know, his fatal flaw.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Is just like he struggles to see the field after
the snap. And that really for me, the more I
cover the NFL, the more I watch the NFL, like
that is the separator is when the snap happens. Can
you see the field? Can you see space? Can you
get the ball up and down in the windows? Do
you have a feel with it? Like some guys I
feel like have that and some guys I feel like
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don't have that. Yeah, and Tua has. You know, when
he's in rhythm and on time in two and a
half seconds, he can put the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
In the money.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
But when he has to react second reaction time, you know,
type play, he struggles mightily. And so I just feel
like athletically he's not what he was at Alabama. And
and and you see that their toll to Yeah, the
head injuries definitely, but the you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Know, mentioning the scene the field.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And this is in combination with the audio that we
played yesterday Pa with with with Cousins, Yeah, and just
coverage versus pure progression and just it felt like I
was sitting down in a four hundred level quarterback class.
The last night in the game, Donald at the end
making throws like he made to Cooper Cup and he
finds his way, helps will that offense to a victory
and just incredible moment for Sam Darnold. But earlier in
(27:11):
the game, his two interceptions, both of them seeing the
field post snap where there's a linebacker and I forget
who they were taking, but then they released him and
he just sat in the zone. It was playing pitch
and catch with the defense.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It's a pick.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And then on the second one, he's eyeing Jackson Smith
and Jigba and you have Kobe Turner with the initial
thrust and then he drops back into coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Again pitch and catch.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And just within that game itself, you saw Sam Darnold
struggling to just simply see the field post snap and
make the right decision. And on the flip side, you
have Matthew Stafford seeing it so well that he's manipulating
the defense with his eyes, moving a defender from one
area of the field to another and then no looking
the ball behind them into the void like that's again,
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the most elite guys in the NFL are able to
post snap just see things.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
At an elite level. That's why Philip.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Rivers, even at his age, can make it work because
mentally he is there.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And that's where like even Jalen.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Hurts the Tours of the World Darnald like some other
that you can overcome some of the post snap processing
speed with the way you set things up with you know,
great design, but in you know, when it's third and
long and it's playoff time and you've got to make
a play and see it post snap. Some guys can
(28:31):
do it, some guys can't. And so that's where with
JJ McCarthy, like, that's one of the most interesting facets
of me watching is can he get to the place
at which when the when he catches the snap, he
like he sees things at an elite level. Field wise,
Kevin O'Connell always talks the two things he looks at
in quarterbacks are accuracy and big field vision, like he
(28:55):
always those are the two qualities he covets the most
in quarterbacks. So it is really interesting. And to go
back a little bit to the Kirk Cousins clip, Yeah,
like why that the pure progression stuff For me more
than anything else, it is a window into the evolution
of this game we all love.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And so you know, some people.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Are more nerdy about it than others, and I'm definitely
on the nerd side of it. But Kirk Cousins was
really talking about the evolution of the game, and so
that's why it's fun. That's why as media members we
ask the questions because rarely do you get a window
window into what it looks like behind the scenes. So
Kirk Cousins really talking about like in the old days,
you used to just look at the number of safeties
(29:36):
deep and that would queue you into where you throw
the football. Now, because there's so much disguise, you kind
of have to assess where to throw the football after
the snap, and so coaches have adapted to put the
quarterback in a spot where they make it easier on.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Them to do that, and that's that's kind of where
it is.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
It made me laugh over that that audio clip, though,
because in the end he's explained it as beautifully and
as technically sound as you possibly could. Then at the end,
after talking about the pure progression, he's like, but y'all
still need to know the coverage and everything. So, I mean,
could you make this sound any more difficult and scientific?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's unbelievable. He's trying to solve a math proof in
about two and a half seconds.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So that's why all year you've had so many times
where on either comments on stories or social media, it's like,
they got to make this easier on JJ. And yes,
there are levers coaches can pull to try to make
it easier, but the job of playing quarterback in the
NFL is really, really, really difficult, no.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Matter if you're young, no matter if you're old.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
No matter who you're playing, it is a very hard
job that requires a certain level of aptitude of reactiveness
on the fly.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And so that's what's been great to see.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
As much as yes, the Vikings have leaned into heavy personnel,
yes they're throwing outside.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Of the numbers.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They're trying to do as as much as they possibly
can to put JJ in an advantageous spot and making
you know, putting them on keepers and bootlegs.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's to the sideline. The difference now, more.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Than anything, is that he's just making the throws that
are there to be made, and he's more decisive and
comfortable in the pocket. It's so like, you know, you
can make a lot of certain aspects, but it is
a hard job. And that minute and a half clip
of Kirk Cousins. If you watch it, it'll it'll it's
revelatory of just the challenge that is preparing for and
(31:23):
reacting when you're in that position on a week to
week basis.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
With with the Cousins clip, when he went down the road,
he started with, you know, I'm really glad you asked
that because I lived the transformation. And then he went
down the road of O'Connell McVeigh and the Rams, and
I'm really glad he did because in a roundabout way,
it was actually quite direct.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's he's saying this works. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I mean that's why I said it yesterday, I said
it today or today, whenever, whenever I was last in
is Stafford has always been considered good. He's always been
considered gifted.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, so maybe he didn't have Pooka and or Cooper
Cup when he won, but he had Calvin Johnson, you know,
I mean, he had a good receiver and he played
a long time. But nevertheless, he gets to the Rams,
it all changes and he becomes a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Might be the MVP this year.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Cousins again, forty nine hundred yards one year with Washington.
If you look back at it was hollow. It was
just really personifying a big box score. We know the
cold blooded throws he made here middle of the field
with key players on the run. And so the last
part here that I wanted to ask you of what
Cousin said and where McCarthy is is off Everything you
(32:38):
heard that is right and just from Kirk, and it
ties into the offense here in the maturation of young
and veteran quarterbacks. Kirk went through that transformation middle of
his career. How do you think it will impact McCarthy
next season? But say by the middle of next season.
So what do we got eight starter, ninth star coming
(33:00):
up this weekend, ninth start night, So we're gonna finish
with twelve hopefully. Then let's get him, Let's get him
to the middle. Let's get him twenty starts into it
middle of next season. Off what you heard from Cousins
at that point with McCarthy, what do you think will
be different?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, I mean what I think is interesting is JJ
sees coverage like he after the game on Sunday night,
he was asked about the TJ Hockinson. I think I asked,
what was your favorite throw of the night? And he
said the TJ hockens to throw down the scene. And
then as part of that answer, he's like they were
in a cover for Pseudo Palm Z Cover two. Look,
so he sees coverage and is, you know, pre snap
(33:39):
pretty aware of what's going on, and then it's it's
kind of incumbing upon him.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The question that I.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Have is how good can he get pre snap at
knowing where to go, remaining call him in the pocket,
being accurate with this, being good with this footwork, Like
the questions for JJ for me are not at all
learning the system, not at all all identifying the defense
pre snap. But it's it's just what we talked about
with Sam Darnold in the post snap processing. How good
(34:07):
can JJ McCarthy be at reacting on the fly and
remaining cal him in the pocket post snap?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And if you can become elite at.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
That and then your mechanics can get to a more
consistent level, then you're talking about the level of quarterback
play that's the that sustains that allows this fan base
to get behind a team that's gonna be in the
in the dance every single year. And so to your
initial question of where I expect them to be if
Jada McCarthy can get through the last three games healthy
(34:37):
and and continue on this ascent by the middle of
next season. The comfort and the conviction and what he
sees post snap, you just you would hope that that
that rises to an entirely different level. The other aspect
with jj is he didn't play a ton of college games,
and so just the more time seeing the speed of
the game, you would have to think would get him
(35:00):
to a level where posts that he can't operate the
way similar to some of the best do like that
is the hope, that is the vision. That is a
trajectory that everybody, I think would look for.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I just I want to see the final three.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But if the final three look like the previous two,
then for me it's just.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Knowledge versus application.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Really knowing the coverages, knowing those things, now how do
we apply it? And he's even referenced kind of subtly
and the last couple of pressors talking about you know,
I'm seeing things. But his processing is improving, I think
because it's not going through the mental mental laundry list
of the nine answers to a problem, it's got to
be instinctual. So knowledge versus application, I think is where
that biggest growth step will take beginning to twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
And that's well said, like the application of everything is
is where the evaluation the analysis of JJ should lie,
like the application of can you place the ball consistently?
The application of are you saying yes no quickly when you're.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Processing the field?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So it's I think that conversation is really is really interesting,
fascinating and worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
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you very much. Uh, let's up. Let's let's take a
left turn here for a couple of minutes. Since it
just came up. Why do you say, uh, becase off
off the Memphis loss because the the Timberwolves won a
bunch of games before that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, they don't need I mean, look,
they're they're playing the Thunder. The odds are probably very
long that they beat the Thunder because they're the Thunder.
I just a midweek game at home on Friday against
the pretty nine on this tonight is but Tibet like the.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Memphis game the Sun's game. It's like if if the.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Wolves are playing a midweek game against a pretty average
team at home and it's really cold cold outside, they're
somehow going to lose that game. That's just how I
feel when I flip them on. So, yeah, I know
they didn't have ANT the other night.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
The offense shouldn't have mattered. It shouldn't have and the
offense was future. And it's just my expectation for this
team should be that a midweek game at home against
a pretty average team, you gotta win that game.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's why I say that about the Timberwolves, Well, it's worrisome.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, they're seventeen and ten, So for the most part,
you like that record. I believe they were. That's a
better record than they were at this time last year. Yeah,
but other than just kind of fodder like between us,
we can say it kind of seems sometimes like they're
bored that they're bored against. Whether it's bad teams you're
mentioning midweek matchups. Well, when you start hearing that stuff
from guys like Ant and you start getting that implied
(07:49):
inside the locker room, I mean, we saw even a
year ago how much playoff positioning mattered, where ultimately one
game separated like the sixth seed from the third see
and and so at this time of the year, losing
a midweek game to Memphis potentially matters in what is
set to be another muddy Western Conference fight.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Anthony Edward's best player on the timber Wolves, questionable into
the game like he was early in the week. I'm
telling you right now, according to lista's point spread changes
and ain't playing tonight. Oklahoma City's favored by seven and
a half, okay, And I know that they're better than
the Wolves, and they're the best team in the league.
Seven and a half is a road favorite. That's kind
of a dead indicator that old Anthony ain't gonna play.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The Wolves need a point guard. They need another point guard.
So I don't know how Tim Connelly, I know, I
know he's he's moving and shaking and he's always active
and in the market. Like you hear that all the
time about Tim Connelly.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But on TJ McConnell from the Pacer seats watching last night,
he's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, he only plays eleven to fifteen because he's forty
five years old.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But what you're gonna give up to get him, you
know all? And I agree with it. And if you
get twenty.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Five thirty from a regular base, I think he's a
plug and play ten twelve dime guy that is the
the epitome of field general despite being of the of
the elder Bryant twenty pis move him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
They wouldn't, They wouldn't part with them with that on.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
The team's a disaster and they need ask plays like
eight minutes a night, maybe seventeen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He'sa don't use him. He's a leader, he's a a guy.
That would TJ McConnell be a good answer.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I was thinking, because everyone's talking about, you know, John
Morant in some of these higher end names. I get
that potential allure is, but you can't afford it. To
your point, you can't afford it. You can afford a TJ.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
McConnell. And he steps in and participates.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Jose Alvarado, the d League can afford TJ McConnell too.
At age at age thirty eight, Jose Alvarado, Wow, what
was that? What what did you put on? Jackson Dart
right out of the gate, the red bull, bit red bull,
mountain bike cliff jumper.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Guy, that's Jose Alvarado.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I don't I put that's just that's fine, wild right,
That's okay as a like point guard, backup ish type.
But I'm sure if you want your quarterback to be
throwing his head in.
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There like a linebacker. Get out of there. If we're
if we're getting in the weeds.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well they got this himy Jaquez himI Miami.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean he's I think the fans would like him.
All right, let's pause.
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comments for vikes Bites. First, Lisa for Meeden Prairie. What's
your question?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
My question is for Aleck Aleck. How is the marketing director? Hey,
how's the marketing director? Young? Alec? Great question.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Lisa, the marketing director for the Alex Lewis Show is
doing really really well. It's probably busy at work right now. Oh,
maybe she can buy you a new car?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
All right? What's your name? Where are you from? Austin
Harper from Apple Valian.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh, Austin Harper as in Austin's thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Hey, how about that? All right? You have a Vikes
bike question? What's your question? Can you promise me Justin
Jefferson will get a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh, Austin wants a promised birthday gift. That and he's
wearing an eighteen that Justin Jefferson will score a.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Touchdown this weekend?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Should we at the press conference after the press conference today? Hey, Kevin,
we got Austin Harper. He's thirteen years old. He needs
a Justin touchdown? Can continue to promise that? Well, well,
I'll pass past Kevin the message as best I can.
I can't promise it, but well we'll tell Kevin after
the press converse.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think I think that I can promise you that inside.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That building, they really really want JJ McCarthy to throw
a touchdown pass to Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That would be it.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It may not be the biggest issue on the to
do list or the chure list for these cats, it's close,
but they really totem really, I mean really want McCarthy
to find eighteen in the end zone this weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's yeah, that'd be a nice birthday for you. In
that sweet little eighteen. Wait what'd you say, ali Oh,
Austin Alex said, if you give him that eighteen jersey,
he'll bring it to the facility today and get Jefferson
to sign it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
WHOA, I would need some help from spearfish.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But yeah, fairness and negatives act. He's gonna have to
go be in a room a fellow journalists, and I
don't want him to be teased for that. So Alex
never said that, and he never would say that. The
objectivity would be in question. Those obscure dot coms that
Austin never will know about layoff Young Alley. Here's a
(14:10):
Vikes Bite related question. JJ McCarthy at the New York Giants,
what do you guys expect?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I expect more of what we've seen over the last
two games, and again creating a new standard. So whether
you're leaving it to the kid growing up or you're
leaving it to the defenses, he's faced he's facing another
target rich opportunity this weekend against the Giants who are
awful in just about every defensive category and so limiting sacks,
(14:36):
making smart decisions that pass rush can get after you
with burns. You were talking about Dexter Lawrence in the
fact that he's been limited via double teams on the
interior and that's allowed a dual carter to grow up
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Big game for him last weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And then Brian Burns, who's really been their best defensive
player for the totality at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But in the end, we saw.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Other than a Kenny Clark jumping it against Ryan Kelly
moment they can get after you or as a Roku
was a pretty good rookie for the Cowboys, mitigating that
pass rush and and then finding the open opportunities. Sometimes
it comes at the sacrifice of Justin Jefferson in the
fact that the Jalen.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Naylors are going to be open, the TJ.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Hawkinson's are going to get more opportunities because of what
defenses are doing against Number eighteen. But but I actually
I think the same blueprint we've seen two weeks ago,
in the growth steps that have become leaps for number nine.
I would be actually very very disappointed if we did
not see something similar to what we've seen the last
two weeks. Okay Vikes bites provided by Thousand Hills Lifetime
(15:36):
Graves grass Fed.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
What's your name where you're from. Ken from the Yellow Bar.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
After watching last night, what's our record with Sam Darnold
if we had him with still?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh? What a good question?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Do you think if the Vikings had Sam Donald this year?
What do you think do you think Alex would be?
What a good question. It was a heck of a
game last night. We're going to ask that at the
presser today.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Hey, Kevin, uh No, Sam Donald, what would the record be?
It would probably be what are they six and eight? Yeah,
I'd say it at least ten and four, probably ten
and four, at least I would say, I mean, I
will I will. One of the aspects of why Sam
Donald has been good this year and was so good
(16:22):
last year was that the Vikings played with the lead
for so many of the games, and the Seahawks have
played with the lead for a ton of games. So
if you flip the script and Sam is playing trailing
and having to throw all year, then they're probably just
not as effective. But Sam is still I mean against
pretty average defenses. You're Steelers of the World. You're I
(16:43):
mean a lot of these teams, the Chargers of the World,
like Sam Donald is probably gonna move the football and
he's still really talented.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Vikes bides. What's your name and where you're from? John
Cassi from New Richmond, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hello, John, How are you welcome to US Banks Stadium?
What's your question?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
My question is, so we've got three games left, two
against division opponents. We've got the Lions and we've got
the Packers. What would it mean to this fan base?
What would mean to this team for the Vikings to
squash the hopes of both the Lions and the Factors
and have some momentum going in the next season.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is from a fan perspective,
what six and eight Radio truly sounds?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yes, Dashing dreams. Well, I can tell you I'm not
a reporter. I'm not a member of the media. You
asked a question because I think it matters to you.
It matters the hell to me as well. Momentum in
terms of roster turnover and what changes in the offseasons
tough to capture that momentum. The QB is a real thing.
Momentum of individuals is a real thing. And how good
again six and eight Radio, we're talking about in the
(17:52):
in the final hour, we're going to talk about like
offensive rookies of the year in NFL at large conversation
because our team's out of the mix. Can you picture
just ruining the Christmas dreams and the kiddies? Can you
picture that final? Whatever the playoff positioning is for the
pack Bears, on the cusp of winning the division, we
send the Packers home sands, Michael Parsons and an opportunity
to play in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Smashing dreams.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Maybe all we have taking others down to make ourselves
feel better might be in vogue, but that's what we have,
and let's just go freaking do it.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
All right, let's go with you more. What's your name?
Where you from? Kyle? From Megan? This is the lie?
This is the lie. Yeah, your question? This is the
Lions guy. Do you know JJ's college record when he
was in college? Was he like twenty nine and one?
It was like twenty seven and one?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, twenty seven to one? Okay, cool? What are you
trying to win? Like Buffalo wild wings trivia up on
the screen? Yeah, right on many Merry Christmas? Yep, God
bless you good to see him? All right? Any other
questions here? All right? Last one that was it? What's
your name?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Where you from? Jason from Plymouth? The Vikings defense is
number one in the NFC against the pass, the pass
yards per game. Just curious, how with the Giants wanting
to run the ball so much, how can the defense
be ready Sunday to defend the run.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
That's a great question. That's a great question. I was
gonna save this for the end, but I'll just say
it now. The two ways that the Vikings lose this game,
the only two ways really for me, are are just
ridiculous turnovers offensively, yeah, or allowing Tracy they're running back
Tyrone Tracy Junior to go off. He's a pretty explosive guy.
(19:35):
And so to answer the question, I'd expect the Vikings
to kind of load it up five man fronts, two
linebackers on the field and force the Giants to beat
you on the ground. I also, I mean, one of
the ways that you'd mitigate that aspect of the game
would be grabbing a lead early in the game.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Make Jackson Dart have to beat you through the air.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And if you can do that, I really don't see
a path where that the Giants had to win this game.
Even though the line is probably like three points.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Let's and you know what, I couldn't hear you back there,
so if you said this, I apologize. But it does
bear mentioning simply because it's six and a radio.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But this is legitimately good.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The Vikings have not given up a pass touchdown for
five consecutive games. The last time I think the last
time it got to six for a team was twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen the New England Patriots. So five consecutive without
a touch passing touchdown, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Lastly, I do have a vikeby for you, Christian Darosol.
Christian Darosol, left tackle did not practice Wednesday and Thursday.
Personally speaking, I'm not expecting him to practice today. I
got no idea where this thing's heading. But nevertheless, two
consecutive DMPs. You're the journalist, your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah, the Christian Darosol situation, it's been a journey all
season to kind of report on this one. Cover it,
follow it, try to get at it from a factual standpoint.
I'm with you that I would not expect him to
play Sunday against the Giants, and you'll.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I didn't go that far. I said, practice today.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, practice today, but obviously that that would be Sunday
if you don't practice all week, and.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I wouldn't bet play.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like the thing that you know, people would ask me,
why don't they just shut him down?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I mean, it's it's essentially from what it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Sounds like and the way Kevin O'Connell has talked about it,
like he's dealt with the little nie swelling and you know,
he's he's he's been in spots in recent weeks where
he can play, and he has played, and so wanting
JJ McCarthy and prioritizing his development, you would hope that
(21:45):
Christian would be in there to be able to protect
him and maximize JJ McCarthy. But this has been an interesting,
I mean, one of the most interesting injury situation I've
covered since I've been on the beat here in twenty
twenty two, since I mean, he's always been kind of
an interesting, uh personality. I've enjoyed getting to cover him,
(22:06):
for sure, And and just the hope would be that,
you know, more than a year removed from this injury
now into the offseason, that you get to next season
and this thing does not stick around in terms of
just the dynamics.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Of what this has been all season.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Those are Vikes bites from Buffalo Wild Wings Apple Valley
nine to noon continues after this, Hey, Apple Valley, Apple Valley.
Your attention, please, your attention. Please. We know this is
(22:42):
the Friday football Feast, but it also is the Friday
four checking feast.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
All your Minnesota Wild do are?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Is?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
When in what we're calling Quinnesota and they and they
won again last night and they planned to stay that
way of this week.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And you know last night who Matt Boldy Baldy Baldy
a round six in a row? Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Six in a row for the Minnesota Wild. That's sweet
all in regulation too? Are they not even messing around
with the Ots? Just getting her done? And they beat
Epison last night after beating ov and uh they got
Edmonton is here on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Do we get a little heat check?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh wait, a second heat check Sunday night, Sunday at five,
Colorado's back in town looking for some more in that shootout.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Okay, Alan roach box of all boxes over in a box.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That'll be sweet, all right, So congratulations to uh coach
Heines and the Minnesota Wild. Now, uh, before we uh
we get into some players of the Year and stuff
like that. Kirk Cousins had had a part of his
press conference with the Atlanta Falcons that had some viral
to it. We played some of it nine to noon
(23:58):
yesterday and chatted about Kevin O'Connell, Sean McVay, the Rams offense,
things like like Matthew Stafford never had been considered an
MVP quarterback in his career. Now he's a Super Bowl
winner and he might be the MVP this year. O'Connell
with the offense here Cousins and things he did with
O'Connell and kind of what Kirk was explaining a few
(24:21):
days ago. It matters and it resonates, and I know
it's resonated with Alex Lewis at ALEC Underscore Lewis via X.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But first, speaking of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
With the college football playoffs beginning this evening, Oklahoma is
hosting Alex Alabama Crimson Tide. Alex is from Aniston, Alabama,
in case people didn't know it, and he loves the Crimson.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Tide, Roll tad Roll Tide.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So that triggers a question off the benching of Tuwatunga
Bai looa, like what was he like A I mean
I know he was good at Alabama. I'm not a
lead college football mind, and he's had mo in the NFL, Like, how,
why and when did this thing just completely fall off?
And by the way, with the Dolphins, if the Vikings
(25:09):
are looking for a veteran backup quarterback next year.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Absolutely not, thank you. Can I finish this off? Sure?
What was I gonna talk about? I don't know, that's
what I thought.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
He's going with Zach Wilson, right, it's if Zach Wilson plays, Uh,
that's somebody actually to watch if you're looking for context
or layer ring. But clearly I was the only one.
So with Tua Tounga by loa, like where did it
fall off? Why did it fall off?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And when? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I mean in college he debuted in the second half
of the National Championship game against Georgia and made an
unbelievable game winning throw to Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And at that point, I mean, it was just electric arm.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It felt like it was like whippy arm action, really athletic,
kind of could move around, dart around in the pocket. Yeah,
And I mean he suffered a hip injury late in
his college career, still became a first round pick after that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
But you know, his fatal flaw.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Is just like he struggles to see the field after
the snap. And that really for me, the more I
cover the NFL, the more I watch the NFL, like
that is the separator is when the snap happens. Can
you see the field? Can you see space? Can you
get the ball up and down in the windows? Do
you have a feel with it? Like some guys I
feel like have that and some guys I feel like
(26:24):
don't have that. Yeah, and Tua has. You know, when
he's in rhythm and on time in two and a
half seconds, he can put the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
In the money.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
But when he has to react second reaction time, you know,
type play, he struggles mightily. And so I just feel
like athletically he's not what he was at Alabama. And
and and you see that their toll to Yeah, the
head injuries definitely, but the you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Know, mentioning the scene the field.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And this is in combination with the audio that we
played yesterday Pa with with with Cousins, Yeah, and just
coverage versus pure progression and just it felt like I
was sitting down in a four hundred level quarterback class.
The last night in the game, Donald at the end
making throws like he made to Cooper Cup and he
finds his way, helps will that offense to a victory
and just incredible moment for Sam Darnold. But earlier in
(27:11):
the game, his two interceptions, both of them seeing the
field post snap where there's a linebacker and I forget
who they were taking, but then they released him and
he just sat in the zone. It was playing pitch
and catch with the defense.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It's a pick.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
And then on the second one, he's eyeing Jackson Smith
and Jigba and you have Kobe Turner with the initial
thrust and then he drops back into coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Again pitch and catch.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And just within that game itself, you saw Sam Darnold
struggling to just simply see the field post snap and
make the right decision. And on the flip side, you
have Matthew Stafford seeing it so well that he's manipulating
the defense with his eyes, moving a defender from one
area of the field to another and then no looking
the ball behind them into the void like that's again,
(27:56):
the most elite guys in the NFL are able to
post snap just see things.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
At an elite level. That's why Philip.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Rivers, even at his age, can make it work because
mentally he is there.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And that's where like even Jalen.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Hurts the Tours of the World Darnald like some other
that you can overcome some of the post snap processing
speed with the way you set things up with you know,
great design, but in you know, when it's third and
long and it's playoff time and you've got to make
a play and see it post snap. Some guys can
(28:31):
do it, some guys can't. And so that's where with
JJ McCarthy, like, that's one of the most interesting facets
of me watching is can he get to the place
at which when the when he catches the snap, he
like he sees things at an elite level. Field wise,
Kevin O'Connell always talks the two things he looks at
in quarterbacks are accuracy and big field vision, like he
(28:55):
always those are the two qualities he covets the most
in quarterbacks. So it is really interesting. And to go
back a little bit to the Kirk Cousins clip, Yeah,
like why that the pure progression stuff For me more
than anything else, it is a window into the evolution
of this game we all love.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And so you know, some people.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Are more nerdy about it than others, and I'm definitely
on the nerd side of it. But Kirk Cousins was
really talking about the evolution of the game, and so
that's why it's fun. That's why as media members we
ask the questions because rarely do you get a window
window into what it looks like behind the scenes. So
Kirk Cousins really talking about like in the old days,
you used to just look at the number of safeties
(29:36):
deep and that would queue you into where you throw
the football. Now, because there's so much disguise, you kind
of have to assess where to throw the football after
the snap, and so coaches have adapted to put the
quarterback in a spot where they make it easier on.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Them to do that, and that's that's kind of where
it is.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
It made me laugh over that that audio clip, though,
because in the end he's explained it as beautifully and
as technically sound as you possibly could. Then at the end,
after talking about the pure progression, he's like, but y'all
still need to know the coverage and everything. So, I mean,
could you make this sound any more difficult and scientific?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's unbelievable. He's trying to solve a math proof in
about two and a half seconds.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So that's why all year you've had so many times
where on either comments on stories or social media, it's like,
they got to make this easier on JJ. And yes,
there are levers coaches can pull to try to make
it easier, but the job of playing quarterback in the
NFL is really, really, really difficult, no.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Matter if you're young, no matter if you're old.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
No matter who you're playing, it is a very hard
job that requires a certain level of aptitude of reactiveness
on the fly.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And so that's what's been great to see.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
As much as yes, the Vikings have leaned into heavy personnel,
yes they're throwing outside.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Of the numbers.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They're trying to do as as much as they possibly
can to put JJ in an advantageous spot and making
you know, putting them on keepers and bootlegs.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's to the sideline. The difference now, more.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Than anything, is that he's just making the throws that
are there to be made, and he's more decisive and
comfortable in the pocket. It's so like, you know, you
can make a lot of certain aspects, but it is
a hard job. And that minute and a half clip
of Kirk Cousins. If you watch it, it'll it'll it's
revelatory of just the challenge that is preparing for and
(31:23):
reacting when you're in that position on a week to
week basis.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
With with the Cousins clip, when he went down the road,
he started with, you know, I'm really glad you asked
that because I lived the transformation. And then he went
down the road of O'Connell McVeigh and the Rams, and
I'm really glad he did because in a roundabout way,
it was actually quite direct.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's he's saying this works. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I mean that's why I said it yesterday, I said
it today or today, whenever, whenever I was last in
is Stafford has always been considered good. He's always been
considered gifted.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, so maybe he didn't have Pooka and or Cooper
Cup when he won, but he had Calvin Johnson, you know,
I mean, he had a good receiver and he played
a long time. But nevertheless, he gets to the Rams,
it all changes and he becomes a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Might be the MVP this year.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Cousins again, forty nine hundred yards one year with Washington.
If you look back at it was hollow. It was
just really personifying a big box score. We know the
cold blooded throws he made here middle of the field
with key players on the run. And so the last
part here that I wanted to ask you of what
Cousin said and where McCarthy is is off Everything you
(32:38):
heard that is right and just from Kirk, and it
ties into the offense here in the maturation of young
and veteran quarterbacks. Kirk went through that transformation middle of
his career. How do you think it will impact McCarthy
next season? But say by the middle of next season.
So what do we got eight starter, ninth star coming
(33:00):
up this weekend, ninth start night, So we're gonna finish
with twelve hopefully. Then let's get him, Let's get him
to the middle. Let's get him twenty starts into it
middle of next season. Off what you heard from Cousins
at that point with McCarthy, what do you think will
be different?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, I mean what I think is interesting is JJ
sees coverage like he after the game on Sunday night,
he was asked about the TJ Hockinson. I think I asked,
what was your favorite throw of the night? And he
said the TJ hockens to throw down the scene. And
then as part of that answer, he's like they were
in a cover for Pseudo Palm Z Cover two. Look,
so he sees coverage and is, you know, pre snap
(33:39):
pretty aware of what's going on, and then it's it's
kind of incumbing upon him.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The question that I.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Have is how good can he get pre snap at
knowing where to go, remaining call him in the pocket,
being accurate with this, being good with this footwork, Like
the questions for JJ for me are not at all
learning the system, not at all all identifying the defense
pre snap. But it's it's just what we talked about
with Sam Darnold in the post snap processing. How good
(34:07):
can JJ McCarthy be at reacting on the fly and
remaining cal him in the pocket post snap?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And if you can become elite at.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
That and then your mechanics can get to a more
consistent level, then you're talking about the level of quarterback
play that's the that sustains that allows this fan base
to get behind a team that's gonna be in the
in the dance every single year. And so to your
initial question of where I expect them to be if
Jada McCarthy can get through the last three games healthy
(34:37):
and and continue on this ascent by the middle of
next season. The comfort and the conviction and what he
sees post snap, you just you would hope that that
that rises to an entirely different level. The other aspect
with jj is he didn't play a ton of college games,
and so just the more time seeing the speed of
the game, you would have to think would get him
(35:00):
to a level where posts that he can't operate the
way similar to some of the best do like that
is the hope, that is the vision. That is a
trajectory that everybody, I think would look for.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I just I want to see the final three.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But if the final three look like the previous two,
then for me it's just.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Knowledge versus application.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Really knowing the coverages, knowing those things, now how do
we apply it? And he's even referenced kind of subtly
and the last couple of pressors talking about you know,
I'm seeing things. But his processing is improving, I think
because it's not going through the mental mental laundry list
of the nine answers to a problem, it's got to
be instinctual. So knowledge versus application, I think is where
that biggest growth step will take beginning to twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
And that's well said, like the application of everything is
is where the evaluation the analysis of JJ should lie,
like the application of can you place the ball consistently?
The application of are you saying yes no quickly when you're.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Processing the field?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So it's I think that conversation is really is really interesting,
fascinating and worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's Alex Lewis from The Athletic with Nordo, producer of
nine to Noon, and I'm Paul Allen. We are into
the final hour of the third to last Friday football Feast.
We're at Buffalo Wild Wings, Apple Valley today, Buffalo Wild Wings, Roseville. Wednesday,
we have a Christmas e feast. If you all looking
for something to do, then the Vikings and the Lions
(36:24):
the next day shortly after three o'clock at M one
hundred point three k f AN.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
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