Art Arthur, Center For Immigration Study Joins Houston Morning News

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty four percent. Again according to those script's ipsos pulls

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support mass deportation. Art Arthur's with US Center for Immigration
Study for a lot of people say, well, how are
you going to You're not going to have mass roundups.
How are you going to make this happen? There's a
lot of ways you can encourage people who are here
illegally to go back home, don't you think, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
There really are, Jimmy, and thank you for having me today.
You know. The first thing to do is to frame
as people talk about all their twenty million illegal aliens
in the United States. We've looked at the numbers. We've
broken down the census figures, and the Center for Immigration
Studies is determined there's somewhere between thirteen and fifteen million.
We used to be able to do with a lot
more specificity, but the Biden Harris administration has released five

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point six million illegal border migrants into the United States,
so that's kind of skewed the figures. But here's the
important thing to focus on, Jimmy, when you're talking about
that number, about one point twenty nine million, more than
one point twenty nine million of those people are actually
under final orders removal they've received due process. They're ready
to go. All the what ICE has to do is

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send them a letter or you know, pay a visit
to their house, knock on the door. And I've been
involved in this for thirty years. Most of those people,
when the time comes, they just go. You don't even
have to chase them. They are ready to go. But
the more important thing, and again remember we're not really
clear even how many of the how many people are here,
is that the Immigration and Nationality Act gives every set

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to homeland security, including the current Alejandro maw York is
the ability to create a registry program to require every
alien who doesn't have a green card in the United
States to register within ninety days, and if they fail
the register, they are subject to federal punishment six months

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in jail on one thousand dollars fine, now you know,
the threat of being in a federal correctional institution for
six months as a way of concentrating the mind and
the belief is that if you require people actually you know, register,
give their fingerprints, see where they're living, a lot of
those people will leave. In fact, we saw that happen

(02:07):
in the way of September eleventh, there was a special
registry program called end Seres. It was controversial because it
only focused on aliens from Muslim countries. But when fifteen
hundred Pakistani nationals were deported who registered under end seers,
we know that another fifteen thousand of them actually left.

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So you know, there are mechanisms in place. There are
tools that don't involve you know, cops in body armor
with guns, you know, drawn, And that's for the criminals.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's for the known criminals. I heard Tom Holman speak
here in Houston, and he said, look, you round up
the criminals, you shut down the border. You stop employers
from hiring illegal aliens that they don't have a way
of making a living. They're going to self deport, they're
going to go back home. Stop the remittanness back to
Mexico so they can't come up here and send their
money back home.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Don't issue work for metsin, don't don't give them, don't
give them government benefits.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah. Absolutely. And you know, when you think about the
wage differential between the United States and a lot of
the countries that these folks are coming from, there's a
ten to one wage difference. These folks have been working
here for a year, two years, they've already made about
twenty years worth of wages. And Tom is absolutely correct,
and not that I would ever say that Tom is wrong.

(03:23):
There are going to be some bad people. You're going
to have to show up, you know, wear battoraddle knocking
on the door, ready to knock in the door for
people that you know, have you know, sex offenses, murder,
you know, serious assaults. But for the vast majority of people,
you simply tell them it's time to go, that you're
enforcing the law, you take away their ability to work,

(03:44):
and most of them are probably going to go. But
you know, a lot of people on both the left
are primarily on the left, but some on the right
always you know, talk about how difficult this is. We
just don't have the resources, we don't have the ability.
And the reason that they say that is because they
want amnesty, sure they do. They want us to simply
throw up our hands and say this is impossible. We

(04:04):
can't do it, we can't do it. Yeah, we've done
it in the past. You're right, and we could do
it again.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
All right, Art, We're out of time, but thank you
so much. Art Arthur's Center for Immigration Studies it's five
fifty seven,