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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, here's one of the better things about nineteen seventy seven.
That was the number one song for the year the president. However,
that wasn't one of the great things. I've been trying
all morning to think of positive things about Jimmy Carter,
and I'm glad I got Jeffrey Lord to help me
with that, because there's not a whole lot to work
with there.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Jeffrey No, I'll tell you, you know, good Lord, Jimmy Carter
gets a record here, the only president to pass away
at one hundred years old. He was quite the guy.
Although I have to say I remember I was involved
with a young staffer in the Pennsylvania four Dole campaign,
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which of course was running against Jimmy Carter in nineteen
seventy six, and Jimmy Carter was quite the thing. It
really became. It reminded me, believe it or not, of
the Beatles when they arrived in America in nineteen sixty
four and everybody went crazy all of a sudden, everybody.
He was talking about peanuts and how to clean a swamp,
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and you know, he would do all these things that
were incumbent upon his job as a farmer and a
peanut farmer and all this sort of thing. Well, this
became quite the deal in the.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Day of the anti government candidate. That's how the whole
thing took off. Right, We had a really bad feeling
about the federal government. We wanted an outsider to come
in and fix it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, that's right. The deal was. This was the post
Watergate era, and Watergate had been a terrible experience for
the country. People thought that Richard Nixon had lied and
you know, was scandalous and cooked things going on government,
and Jimmy Carter was seen as the virtuous candidate, the
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honest guy, the outsider who would clean up Washington, and
that became a real strength form and on the basis
of that he won. Then that's when the trouble began
because after a while, of course, you've got to execute
your policies, and he had problems. He was a bit
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more conservative than a lot of Democrats, and there were
some Democrats were so upset that they persuaded ted Kennedy
to get a challenge him for renomination. So Teddy announced
in the fall of nineteen seventy nine, and right around
the time that hostages were taken in irandom, the American
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hostages from the US embassy in Tehran were taken. Well,
it was very difficult for Jimmy Carter, impossible, as it
turned out, for him to get the hostages released. Sadly
and tragically, on the day of the Wisconsin primary in
nineteen eighty, he had authorized rescue mission to send in
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the US military to rescue the hostages, and unfortunately they
crashed into the helicopters in the rescue mission crashed in
one another in the desert in Iran killed. I think
I forgot how many Americans. It was a total disaster. Well,
what this did politically is it said the image that
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he was helpless, that he wasn't up to the task.
And so by the time we got to he did
manage to defeat to Kennedy. But by the time we
got to the fall election with Ronald Reagan, Raydon won
with the forty four state landslides.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So comb I remember, remember all the gas lines that
we had during the energy crisis. Now he did, I mean,
he did help come up with the Camp David Peace Accords,
which is I mean there's something there.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That was a big deal deal that still laughed. I
mean peace between Egypt and Israel. Is still firmly in
place all these decades later. So and I remember I
was a young congression only at the time. I remember
walking towards I lived not far from the capital, and
I thought, well, let me see what I can see.
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So I walked over to the Capitol and all of
a sudden, this motor kid comes screaming by, and I
could see and watch it out. The President of Egypt
and MONOCOLM. Bacon, the Prime Minister Richard sitting in the
back seat of the limo as they were whisked into
the capital to I think they were going to give
a talk to Congress or whatever. But it was pretty
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amazing thing that that was solely because of Jimmy Carter.
He had these two guys up at Camp David and
more or less said you're not leaving until you settled it,
and so they did.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It worked. Jeffrey Lord, we have to leave it at
that for now, but it's always fun to reminisce with you.
I do appreciate it. News Mexican Tributor, Jeffrey Lord. It
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