Ashley Oliver - Reporter, Washington Examiner Joins Houston's Morning News

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, that's what Doze is doing, cutting like an
IF six twenty three star time here in Houston's Warning News.
Ashley Oliver's with us. She's a reporter at the Washington Examiner.
She covers Doge for you're a Doze reporter. Who would
have ever thought this week big enough? Here we have
a Doze reporter.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, Hey, Jimmy, Actually I'm a DOJ reporter, but it's
turned into a Doge reporter. I love how you say
that because it's pronounced correctly, but it feels like I
am a Doge reporter right now. Because of the number
of lassues that involved dose.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'll bet well they got good news yesterday from a
federal judge refusing the block DOGE from accessing federal employee
data or making personnel changes. That's kind of a big win,
don't you think.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, I would say a big win in that the
states that we're doing DOGE asked for a lot, and
so for a judge to deny them upfront is a
big denial. However, it's a small victory in the grand
scheme of things, because there's a lot more, as you
called it, law fair going on right now. But this

(01:04):
particular lawsuit involves fourteen states, some blue states and some
purple states, but they're all led by Democratic attorneys general,
and they are suing the federal government saying that Elon
Musk and Doge are improperly accessing sensitive information that they
shouldn't be accessing in a number of agencies, and they

(01:26):
wanted to block them from basically doing all of their work.
They said they don't want them. They don't an Elon
Muskin Doge messing with spending, They don't want them hiring
and firing anybody. They don't want them to otherwise improperly
access to confidential information. And to a degree that could
be reasonable. But the judge found that the states were

(01:47):
speaking largely in hypothetical saying, well, this could happen if
they do this, This could happen if Doge does that.
And that doesn't work when you're seeking a temporary restraining
order because that is an extraordinary form of relief in
the courts. And the states simply didn't prove that they
have this they have they would suffer this like irreparable

(02:09):
damage or harm, say if Elon Muskindoja's activities continued. Now,
this judge is Tanya Chutkin, who your listeners might know
her name from presiding over Trump's big criminal case in
DC before that fizzled out when he won his election.
So she is known for being unsympathetic towards Trump. She
often ruled against him during that criminal case. Now she

(02:32):
is being a little more sympathetic upfront to Trump's administration. However,
this lawsuit is still in the early stages, So a
temporary restraining order is the first thing that someone who's
doing is going to look for, and then after that
they're going to look for receiving a temp an injunction
of some sort and that can take weeks. So that's

(02:53):
why the pro as they call it, comes first. So
now we're looking at the states trying to obtain an injunction.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That is probably not a good sign going forward.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Though.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
If you have a judge that is naturally not sympathetic
towards Trump ruling in the Trump administration's favor, then that
probably tells you there's going to be problems with this
all the way down the line. For Democrats.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, you know, the DOJ is going to be aware
of who they're working with and they know their audience.
So the lawyers that come in on behalf of Elon
Musk and Doge are going to probably try to work
with Tanya Chuckkin and speak to her in her language.
She also presided over many January sixth cases and was

(03:35):
known as a harsh sentencer in those cases, so she's
definitely not the ideal judge for Trump. I would say
she's also an Obama of Pointz, but we've seen some
other judges rule against Trump in similar DOSEE cases in
New York. We know the judge up there is also
an Obama Pointz, and he granted the tro in that

(03:56):
case that's the restraining order. But that said, Chuckkin knows
that that was different because it was more tailored directly
to the Treasury Department and identified specific ways that harm
could happen to the plaintiffs. So in that case, that
tierro was granted. But we still don't know if that
lotu's going to pan out in favor of the Trump

(04:18):
administration Elon Muskindoze or not. And we know many of
these are on their way into the appellate court system
and potentially the Supreme.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Court system, so it'll all ultimately end up and from
the Supreme Court, I'm fairly sure about that, Ashley, thank
you so much. Reported with the Washington Examiner, that's Ashley
Oliver