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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I don't know if this makes you unstoppable, but this
gives you a better shot than any other being successful,
especially if you are growing up in poverty and you're
looking for a way out of poverty. The Mississippi state
legislature has a bill that required schools to teach the
success sequence. So what is the success sequence? You sit down. Okay,
(00:22):
here's how brilliant this is. This is new information. You've
never heard this before.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
First of all, number one, young person finish high school.
Number two work full time, Number three, don't have children
before marriage. Do that, and you're far more likely to
be a success. Andrew Brown joins us VP of Policy
at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. I hate to make
it sound dumb, because it's obviously not dumb, and obviously
(00:50):
there are a lot of people in poverty who don't
follow that rule. But it just makes common sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It absolutely does, And thank you so much for having
me this morning. The success sequence is not only common sense,
it's backed up by data. What's really interesting about this
sequence is sociologists have studied it for years. They've done
academic research, proven tests, and they've found across generations those
(01:22):
three steps finish school, get a job, get married before
you have kids, proven to give you virtually zero percent
chance of living in poverty.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So why does it take the public schools to send
that message along? Is that no longer being taught in
the home? If if we have, have we gotten to
the point with generational poverty where we aren't even attempting
to teach that in the home.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, unfortunately, it's not being modeled in the home. If
you look.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
At marriage rates and birth rates over the last several
years and decades, right now, about fifty four percent of
Texas children are being raised by married biological parents. Right
we're doing actually better than the national average by.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
A few percentage points.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But more and more kids are being raised in non
intact families, and what they're seeing in their own homes,
what they're seeing in the homes of their friends, in
their peers at school, is not the success sequence. They're
seeing the opposite of it. And so, unfortunately, we're at
a place in our culture where we've got to figure
(02:32):
out how do we reach the rising generations and let
them know about this time tested, proven way of life
that will set them up and their children up for
success long term?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Do you think if you were to bring young people
into the classroom, perhaps those who did not follow the
success method and are still loving in poverty versus those
who have practiced it in our being sick successful and
they could the students could ask them questions about, you know,
what was different in their lives and why their lives
have turned out the way they did. Would that be helpful?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Absolutely, And essentially what you're talking about is mentorship. You know,
we don't think that just teaching this in school, making
it part of the curriculum is a silver bullet that's
going to solve all these problems, but it at least
gets the information out there. What's more important, though, is
that our community step up that you know, I'm a husband,
(03:31):
I'm a father, you know, men like me, get involved
more actively with our communities and start showing the rising
generation who may be living in broken homes like this
is not your pre determined destiny, right, You can make
(03:52):
different choices. In the different choices that you make will
allow you to achieve the American dream and a chief prosperity.
So it's kind of a combination of teaching but also modeling.
In our communities in our neighborhoods that are going to really,
I think, turn the culture around.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, there's nothing more powerful than a good mentorship program.
I hope we go with something like this. I think
it's a great idea. Andrew will have to get you
back on the Afternoon Show where we have more time
and find out more about this. Andrew Brown, VP of
Policy of the Texas Public Policy Foundation,
I don't know if this makes you unstoppable, but this
gives you a better shot than any other being successful,
especially if you are growing up in poverty and you're
looking for a way out of poverty. The Mississippi state
legislature has a bill that required schools to teach the
success sequence. So what is the success sequence? You sit down. Okay,
(00:22):
here's how brilliant this is. This is new information. You've
never heard this before.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
First of all, number one, young person finish high school.
Number two work full time, Number three, don't have children
before marriage. Do that, and you're far more likely to
be a success. Andrew Brown joins us VP of Policy
at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. I hate to make
it sound dumb, because it's obviously not dumb, and obviously
(00:50):
there are a lot of people in poverty who don't
follow that rule. But it just makes common sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It absolutely does, And thank you so much for having
me this morning. The success sequence is not only common sense,
it's backed up by data. What's really interesting about this
sequence is sociologists have studied it for years. They've done
academic research, proven tests, and they've found across generations those
(01:22):
three steps finish school, get a job, get married before
you have kids, proven to give you virtually zero percent
chance of living in poverty.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So why does it take the public schools to send
that message along? Is that no longer being taught in
the home? If if we have, have we gotten to
the point with generational poverty where we aren't even attempting
to teach that in the home.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, unfortunately, it's not being modeled in the home. If
you look.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
At marriage rates and birth rates over the last several
years and decades, right now, about fifty four percent of
Texas children are being raised by married biological parents. Right
we're doing actually better than the national average by.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
A few percentage points.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But more and more kids are being raised in non
intact families, and what they're seeing in their own homes,
what they're seeing in the homes of their friends, in
their peers at school, is not the success sequence. They're
seeing the opposite of it. And so, unfortunately, we're at
a place in our culture where we've got to figure
(02:32):
out how do we reach the rising generations and let
them know about this time tested, proven way of life
that will set them up and their children up for
success long term?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Do you think if you were to bring young people
into the classroom, perhaps those who did not follow the
success method and are still loving in poverty versus those
who have practiced it in our being sick successful and
they could the students could ask them questions about, you know,
what was different in their lives and why their lives
have turned out the way they did. Would that be helpful?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Absolutely, And essentially what you're talking about is mentorship. You know,
we don't think that just teaching this in school, making
it part of the curriculum is a silver bullet that's
going to solve all these problems, but it at least
gets the information out there. What's more important, though, is
that our community step up that you know, I'm a husband,
(03:31):
I'm a father, you know, men like me, get involved
more actively with our communities and start showing the rising
generation who may be living in broken homes like this
is not your pre determined destiny, right, You can make
(03:52):
different choices. In the different choices that you make will
allow you to achieve the American dream and a chief prosperity.
So it's kind of a combination of teaching but also modeling.
In our communities in our neighborhoods that are going to really,
I think, turn the culture around.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, there's nothing more powerful than a good mentorship program.
I hope we go with something like this. I think
it's a great idea. Andrew will have to get you
back on the Afternoon Show where we have more time
and find out more about this. Andrew Brown, VP of
Policy of the Texas Public Policy Foundation,
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