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April 11, 2025 4 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is fighting back against the Trump administration. You know
that they are. So it's the advice of our next guest,
Ryan Jundaf, who writes all kinds of things for American thinker,
that we don't go wobbly. MAGGA needs to not go
wobbly on the deep state. Welcome back to the program, Sir,
doctor Brian June Death is with us. Can you give
us an example. I noticedjenior article you talked about market Thatcher,

(00:22):
the very prime Minister and President George Herbert Walker Bush
and the invasion of Iraq is a good example of
how we almost went wobbly.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Exactly that that was a phrase that she told him
not to go wobbly because he was dithering about his
response to Saddam Husane invading Kuwait. And this is when
he built a coalition and we pushed Shaddam out of Kuwait,
and he was dithering on that and whether he was
going to do anything or not. And Margaret said, George,
this is not the time to go wobbly. So I

(00:57):
paraphrase that, and I'm telling that to Trump's supporters in
the MAGA base not to go wobbly about Trump's plans, rights,
economic plans, is social plans, the tariffs, everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, certainly he is not going wobbly on the tariffs,
has he? No, he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
He's doubling down, and I encourage his supporters to stick
with him. I think this is all well planned out.
He's been working on this for years of what he
was going to do, and let it play out. Trump
always comes up with the winning hand if you watch,
most of his things worka very well, and if you

(01:36):
bet against him, you're going to lose. And for somebody
to have a winning hand like that over and over
and over again, either knows what he's doing or he
has divine providence. It seem either way.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, either way it works for him. Yeah, I think he.
I think it's more that he knows. He may have
divine providence, but it's more about he knows exactly what
he's doing. And I think he's thinking two or three
steps ahead of almost everybody, which is why they can't
figure out exactly what it is that he's up to.
He's got seventy five countries. Doctor June Deeff, who who
can't wait to sit down in bargain, free trade and

(02:08):
free tariffs for everybody? And I wouldn't be surprised if
he doesn't talk some of these countries into increasing their
tariffs like he has on China. He might look at
this as a great, great time to do a power
move on China. I'm sure he does.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And we've got seventy five countries and now want to
sit down and talk. And I think it's going to
be a lot more than just tariffs. You're going to
talk about mineral rights, natural resources, military, other things where
we have common interests and disagreements. And this is a
great realignment our relationship with so many other countries, and
China is going to be on the outside, look them in,

(02:45):
and nobody's going to want to deal with China. Australia
already said no, we're not going to stand with China
against America.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
You're on your own. Do you think that eventually China.
I thought it was very interesting that President Trump said
yesterday that maybe it was the day before that, you know,
he doesn't think it's not because China isn't willing or
doesn't want to negotiate. They don't know how to. They
never have had to. They don't know how to.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'm sure they don't. They've always gotten their way. They've
been bullies on the world stage. And I'm sure China
has its own deep state, and that's an interesting proposition.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is she really in charge.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Or is there a Chinese deep state that's pulling the
strings over there?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But yes, this is new territory for them. And American
presidents and other politicians have always rolled over, and Trump's
the first one that's standing up to them in a
serious way. And they don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah. Well, like you say, they're not used to people
rolling over. I mean they they had their way with
the Biden administration for four years. The Biden administration didn't
do anything other than cooperating whatever it was they wanted
to do.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Absolutely, the Biden administration had their hand out and they
were getting paid by China. Hunter was the Biden family.
China got their way, they bought their way, and all
of a sudden that strategy is not working anymore and
they don't like it.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Nope, they don't always. Good to talk to you, sir,
Thank you so much for your time today. Appreciate it.
Thank you. That's Brian. Doctor Brian Jundep with The American Thinker
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