Texans, Rockets BOTH Get Big Wins, Brawls In CFB Rivalry Week, Which H-Town Sports Figure Would You Pardon?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, lunchtimers, this is the Matt Thomas.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Show, ten oh one in Age Town. Good morning, what
a day. Two Houston victories. It's the Matt Thomas Show.
And Ross. This is Sports Talk seven ninety. Thank you.
I'll fresh set of downs.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
They go to the ground, Joe Mixon trying to get
to the edge. Now some running room for mixing inside
the ten. It'll be first in goal Houston, first down
in ten for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's mixing, good cutback in a big way. Mix it.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Kick it on to the speed now and mix it
out of bounds inside the ten. Nine carries twenty two
yards before that thirty yard run and now mixing again.
Sweeps the left side into the in zone for a
Houston touchdown.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
One on the playclock.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Just gets the snap off the hand to mixing a
hole on the outside, mix it with room to road
in a first down.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Texans just four for twelve on third down.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Today, toss play mix it, looking for it opening. He's
got the first down and the Texans are gonna get
out of here with a big road win before the bye.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
First of all, I love Michael McDonald. Second of all,
out of the movie Brothers. Third, I went out apologize
for takes one and two and I love this song,
nor should you. Michael McDonald's awesome. This song is such
a jam and I know nine ape.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Of you never heard of it.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Greg Cook looked more like Michael McDonald or Bob Seeker
see all the above. Oh this song and it fits.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Joe makes it was so freaking awesome yesterday one hundred
yard game. That was the only storyline from the game.
That's it. That's it. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
He was fantastic And what's his face? The Dalton Schultz
caught a couple of passes.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, no, that was good. It was nice to see him.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Finally, factor want to touchdown the second half too, Yes,
so we're running two for the price of one.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Singing mister McDonald and the Deubies in the backup. Just
keep running, Joe. That offensive line appreciates you running. Finally.
It's not our fault. Yeah all right. I just there
are songs. There's not enough good crooning anymore. Like there's
not that's a croon right there, that's a crude that

(02:25):
just saw him. It puts me in a good mood.
I don't know why it does.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
And here we are, Oh yeah, no, you're you're fully
in like with the yacht rock right now. Oh my god,
seeing the documentary, I'm gonna watch it tonight in Sacramento, okay,
because there's money night football on and really nothing else,
and Sacramento's out of town.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You do a bunch of stuff in so that's what
it sounds like.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
You go eat dinner and you call it to day,
but it's not gonna be in the morning, eight o'clock
Pacific time tomorrow with you.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So that's Dan Matthews. Uh Ross is still in Angola
and we look forward to getting him back as soon
as possible. Yeah, he's got clear customs.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
And then is there like a quarantine period or something
like that, you gotta get tested for fruit flies something
like that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Sure, sir, he is leaving either tonight.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Or in the morning and flying all the way and
he's back with us on Wednesday. I'll be in San Francisco,
so I want him to see him.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
But he's going to be all wonk.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
He's the first of all wonky as it is second
of all the whole time change in the I always
thought you'd buy and take an extra day off just
to recuperate, but he's trying to save the rest of
his vacation time for later this month when he turns forty.
But that's his own deal about Wednesday's show might be
a little weird because I'll be busting from Sacramento to
San Francisco doing the show at eight o'clock in the morning.

(03:34):
He'll be fresh off of serious jet legs. So Wednesday
might be a no, all crazy, you never know what
we're gonna say kind of show like most days are.
Well sure, I mean that's the fun of this show
from ten to two every single day. Right here Sports
Talk seven ninety, they're fourteen hours ahead over where he
is right now, so this would be.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And it's a fifteen hour flight, sixteen hour flight, something.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Like that, something like that. Now that's I can't do it.
I can't sleep on planes. But that one would be
pretty tough as well. All right, So we have a
we have for a Monday. We have a lot to
get to.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
We have the college football weekend, which was very interesting,
uh fighting Texas Aggies did.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Not fight well, there were one of the few that didn't. Yeah,
everything else was very intriguing. We'll get to that. Texans
will a win against Jacksonville another one score game, another
road AFC South victory. Alsi's ashare we got to get
to a lot on that. And man, there is some
serious sanctimonious conversation out the world on this.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'm frankly both sides.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Some people saying Trevor Lawrence didn't do much, didn't do
anything to help himself out. Then you hear about al
Shariir is the dirtiest player on I mean there is
a I mean both ends of the wax spectrum on this.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, and we're just gonna pile on right.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
I mean, that's what the Matt Thomas shit with Ross
is exactly sanctimonious for four hours every single day.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Far hot takes.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I want to run to Twitter and try to engage
with as many people as possible able to anger you
sports MT Whenever you do that too, you know you
need to be able to do that. So we got
to get that to get to we have the Rockets
with a huge win.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Huge Freddie van vliet D three call, say your prayers,
eat your vitamins, jack up long three pointers and make them. Well,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I like that whole comania right there that you just
went to a lot of kids might not still understand that.
But they're a hateable team too. I read last night
the Rockets. Who hates That's what I read last night,
some bozo up and over. Yeah, but I you know
it's because Dylan Brooks has hated and that's fine. But
if he you know, if if you if Dylan ain't
with you, you hate him. If he's with you, you know
what I say, Though good Good gives a little personality.

(05:43):
It does, absolutely it does, because I like it when
other people are like, I can't stand that team, Like
for the longest time, you know, people, I think we're
looking at the astro situation wrong. It's like, hey, look
it's good. It's good to be the villain sometimes. Yep,
it is.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So we got that to get to just so much.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
We have all the rivalries of college football this weekend
and the putting in the flag at the fifty yard
line and people fighting. Oh you know what, I'm gonna
painy with the broad brush here in segment one, but
just give me more of that. Give me Michigan Ohio State.
It is the nastiest, meanest, ugliest rivalry in football. And

(06:21):
if Ohio State goes to Michigan next year and wins.
Put that damn Ohio State flag right on the end
at the fifty yard line. I have zero problems with
Michigan trying to put the flag at the Ohio State fifty.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Good.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Good for them. Two unbelievably unlikable football programs holier than
now cocky, think they're better than everybody else. If they
want to throw hands, I'm here to watch it.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
And we literally saw a tried end that somebody tried
to plant at the fifty yard line of the Arizona
State Arizona game. Oh so, yet again, a tried ent
was part of a massive brawl.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You want to throw some helmets around, you want to
kick somebody in the nets, let's go.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's rivalry where you could be like the Notre Dame
player who full helmet, full everything decided.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hey, here comes a close fist punch right at you. Yeah,
if you want to take a whiz of the twenty
five yard line, I'm all for right there. I think
we're gonna want to see it happen.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Okay, yeah, all right, so yeah, let's let's keep clothes
on if possible.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, you don't want to drop trout? No? No?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
So uh yeah, so much to get to the Texans Rockets.
We mentioned college football. The polls will be out tomorrow
for everybody to complain about. Gordy's gonna be here at
one o'clock because I got to run the Sacramento with
the Rockets, so he'll You ever notice when Gordy is like, like,
we're just sitting here talking and then all of a
sudden something sec related comes up.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
He charged his voice up really loud, and he's like,
it was like, Cordy, man, it's so down.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's okay, he's mister sec he is, but I.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Mean he is zero to sixty on just a normal
conversation goes up tenfold. Well, I mean, look, it's hard
to kind of blame him for that because I fired
up Aggie fans this week, and boy, they let you know,
oh yeah, they call you names.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Short of name calling.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Although somebody was just like, man, some of these comments,
I was like, yeah, that's cute, and I read some
of them and I was like, I'll remember that A
when you asked me for tickets again, or B when
you still think I'm your friend.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
You neet tickets every once in a while. That's nice,
all right? Seven one undred people, Yeah, I'm sure you do.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seventy let's come back
and talk about, uh, the Trevor Lawrence play. How's he's
ash ear getting ejected from the game, and rightfully so.
But beyond that, we'll get to what should the NFL do,
Whether it's a fine, whether it's a suspension, whether it's

(08:41):
all of the above. We'll get to that at seven
one three two one two five seven ninety seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Also today we
are not doing to tell the truth. I thought of
this literally when I got to the radio station today
when I heard that President Biden.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Pardoned his son.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Where we're gonna do something we've never done in the
history of the Matt Thomas Show. Whether it's here, whether
it's over on under stations, whether it's in other markets.
You get to pardon somebody in Houston sports. Interesting, think
about your entire life being a Houston sports fan. At

(09:20):
eleven thirty, you get to pardon them for some past transgression.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll leave it open and like that.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
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Speaker 2 (09:48):
I have to make sure I stand out someway.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Why you go back, get your lower case letters going in.
You're not that damn important. No, I'm pod committed at
this point. I really stuck with it absolutely, all right,
very good. You know you got to have some to
differentiate you.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Certainly did. You certainly did now seven three chamber by myself,
You're fine. We met.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It just was like it goes to all the All
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Speaker 7 (10:23):
Oh, there's no doubt that Trevor represents them. Oh my,
that'll be al Shire who's flagged for the big hit
on the slide and that's going to start a little
bit of a scrum afterwards as the Jaguars coming to
protect their QB. Oh my goodness, I this deserves an
injection in my opinion, another flag has come down with

(10:46):
the activities on the bench.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
But the bigger concern right now is what's going on
with Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
He was taking off the game out of the game
on a golf cart. Apparently he is okay, but concussed.
To no surprise, ejection came for him and a member
of the Jacksonville Jaguars who got involved in a fight
and absolutely should have done so. I don't document every

(11:13):
time Elsie aushar Ear does something. There has been a
few people that have said that he has had some
questionable plays in the past. I think there was a
fight that he threw a punch and during the Chicago
Bears game.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
But again, I.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Wouldn't have a long memory of Alsie's aushar Ear's history
of overly physical play. I saw his tweet this morning
when I woke up, and he obviously apologized and said
that he had been harassed on Twitter, which is what
Twitter does, is harassed people. So without trying to get

(11:48):
too over the top one way or the other, it
was a dirty hit. It could have been avoided. I
know the game is fast, I know the game is physical.
I know that slotting for quarterbacks is tough. I know
there have been some people this smat saying that maybe
quarterbacks shouldn't slide, because again it's you're asking to get
hit more than you are not getting hit, and that's
something I think for Competition Committee and probably just for
the Phillis for coaches to philosophily discuss. He probably should

(12:13):
be suspended for the Miami game. But and I'm saying
this not because I live in Houston, Texas or I'm
a Texans fanners observer.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm just telling you that one game suspension for this,
plus being kicked out of the game yesterday, to me,
Dan feels like an appropriate punishment for set offense.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Well it's also too, I mean, you're taking the rational
approach to this, because what a lot of people do
in our industry is they want to rush to social
media and show you just how mortified they are that
somebody would actually do that on the field and how
angry they are. And you know, I mean I saw
a couple of different ones. Like one of them was

(12:51):
that he should be suspended for as long as Trevor
Lawrence is still out, all right, why don't you go
ahead and save that one for another time or maybe
even just not even use it all.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And another one too.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Is kind of like I was talking about with the
Rockets and thunder earlier. I actually saw somebody say, well
that's what Houston does. What, like, what are the Texans
have to do with your jones against the Astros? Like
that's what you're allowing for it? And then again, it's
social media. People just have a license to be stupid,
kind of like going through airports. I mean, people just
feel like it's a license to be rude and be

(13:24):
dumb because there's no accountability for it. But no, I
mean everything you said is one hundred percent true. It
was not a good football play. It was a play
that he knows better and probably hindsight, being twenty twenty,
he wouldn't try to make the hit. But it's also
though too, it's football, like that happens, that is going

(13:44):
to happen despite your best efforts to protect everybody.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
The forearm was not beyond football. That was i've got
a quarterback or I've got a runner heading my way.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I want to I want to make sure he's down.
What's his job, what's his to tackle? But you don't
tackle with forearms typically. I mean I don't want to.
I don't want to slow this down. I don't want
to slow it down to a microsecond to say in
the heat of the moment, or whatever the case would be.
What I want to say was it was if you
look at it one hundred times at regular speed, at
fast speed, at slow speed, it was a dirty hit.

(14:18):
I'm not I'm not disagreeing with the way that it
ended up. Yes, But at the same time, though too.
His job's to tackle the defense or the offensive player.
That's his job. So I mean, if you want to
talk about anymore, fine, But Dan, you can't say by
any means necessary it is necessary, which which is I
think what you're trying to say, bring him down by

(14:39):
any means necessary. That's not that's the NFL has said,
you don't do that. If that's the case, you everybody
will be spearing people. You have to find you have
to do it a proper way, and if you don't
do it a proper way, you're going to face a
fifteen yard penalty, or you're gonna face ejection, or you're
gonna face I mean whatever fines or whatever the case
may be. There are certain ramifications. His job is to tackle.
His job is to legally tackle, and that was an

(15:02):
illegal tackle that forced a significant injury, that forced an
injection from the ball game. Well, it's also though too,
I mean for everybody, and I'm going to keep it
on point, but also to at the same time, you know.
Use A different example is where was all of this
hand ringing last year when c J. Stroud's you know,
head bounced off the turf at met Life. Nobody was
coming after Quentin Williams. No nobody was saying that he

(15:25):
needed to be suspended as long as c J. Stroud
is out any of those different types of things. So
it's like all our selective outrage that people will throw
out during situations like this. More often than not, it's
just about the benefit of the situation because as he
is al Shaier, most people have no idea who he is,
so of course to them, he's faceless, he's nameless, he's

(15:45):
all of these different types of things that they're going
to say, Oh yeah, no, there's no place for that
in the game.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Give me a break.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
There was no There wasn't a place in the game.
There's no place in the game for what he did yesterday.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
There isn't. I'm sorry, there isn't. I mean, but I'm not.
I'm not ready to and died him for the rest
of his NFL career like some other That's what I'm saying.
But there there isn't a there is no oops into
that yesterday, there was no oops to it. That was
a ejectionable, ejectionable offense.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
We'll go with it, Yeah, that that's what it was,
and and eject them, find them, suspend. I mean, finding's
not going to do anything. You know, you're gonna you're
gonna have to suspend because I mean, this has been
yet another offense. And I saw people posting videos today
of I guess what was it last year a couple
of years ago, he he kind of like choked Tom

(16:34):
Brady as he was going at him on a play.
And then of course you talked about the Bears game
he had the hard hit of Caleb Williams on the sidelines,
then throwing a punch at a player.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I mean, I get that.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know, it's one of those things that people are
going to look at look for examples of, oh man,
this guy's a dirty player. Here's an example of how
he is a dirty player. But it's also though too.
Let the league suspend them and let them handle it
and let it be done. I mean all of this.
I mean I even saw somebody try to say that
he should be banished from the game, like that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
It is, but I'm not letting one. I'm not letting one.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars given a national tone to this.
The tone of this should been nasty hit, illegal hit, ejected,
probably suspended for a game, and hopefully he learned from this.
And I don't know if you have to go much
beyond that. And that's where I think the problem is.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Again.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
When you have television and radio and newspapers and fans
that all have platforms to whatever level degree, you're gonna
get a variance of answers. There's nothing universal said. I mean,
there are some people that are defending that's saying that
Trevor Lan Like, I was watching ESPN to day and
they were talking about how you know that maybe NFL
quarterback should not slide anymore because you're basically asking for

(17:52):
those for two high octane athletes to collude at the
same time. Well, we're seeing another off of these slide
plays in college football. We're not seeing we're seeing some collisions,
but we're seeing a lot fewer than we did, say
twenty or twenty favorites ago when there wasn't a slide rule.
The slide is supposed to be the I'm giving myself

(18:13):
up for the play. That's what the slide is supposed
to be. So then to tell an offensive guy, because
you know we talk about this all the time, well,
the rules they are built for the offensive side of
the football. Maybe so, but also to at the same time,
I mean, if you're going to try to, you know,
have them limit themselves in the way that they play,
then I'm not going to do that on the offensive

(18:34):
side either. Again, you're the slide is to say, hey,
I'm sliding, I'm giving myself up on this play. I
am no longer a threat to you. Yeah, I again,
I don't. The sport is very, very physical. You and
I will definitely agree on that. There's no right way
to do it except running out of bounds. But that's
just not how wark. There's a football field and Trevor's

(18:54):
trying to get his yards, but he also realizes, hey,
I got to give myself up. I don't want to
be in a situation where I potentially get hit and hurt.
And an unfortunately happened because of any illegal play that
forced an ejection of a ball game, and I thought
the whole on field situation was on handled properly. I
thought the Texans probably should have sent him to the
sideline as fast as possible. The Jaguars ran. I mean,
it was a hot mess about ten minutes. No, it was,

(19:17):
And I mean it's an emotional play and football is
an emotional game, and that's going to happen if you
don't take the guy out of the game, which eventually
they did, but it was after there was the full
on brawl in the field. But two at the same time,
I mean, Trevor Lawrence knows the risks of playing this
game as much as anybody. I don't think there's a
single player that goes on to an NFL field and

(19:39):
feels like, Hey, I'm going to absolutely come off this
field and not be injured today. Now I'm not saying
that it makes everything okay, but also to at the
same time he realizes it's a mean, nasty game. It
can be a physical game, and this is one of
the things that can happen from playing this game.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
All right.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
So again, my take on this is not trying to
get into too much of he never should play again,
or he's an awful human being, or he's the worst
person on earth. Is he did something that was highly
illegal and very very dangerous and it has to be
a punishment that goes with it.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
That's my take. What is yours?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
one three two one two five seven ninety. If you
want to jump into the conversation, we are with you
today up until two o'clock. Uh, Gordy's gonna jump in
with Dan for the final hour of the show. We
look forward to hearing from you and at eleven thirty today,
you have an opportunity to pardon a Houston sports athlete
if you so want to.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Does it have to be an actual athlete on the field?
Can they be an athlete?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It could be a coach, It can be an owner,
It can be anybody Houston related. I got mine. I
got a few, sadly, because I've lived here most of
my life. Well, I mean so have I except for
the last few. But no, I mean.

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Speaker 8 (21:52):
Yeah, it's not unfortunate with the hit with diseases hit
us now when we're coaching, SS want to be smart
and everything we do and not hurt the team. Get
a penalty there. We just have to be smarter when
the quarterback is going down.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Just unfortunate play. Not representative of who Asease is like.
He's a smart player, really great leader for us, and
you know, we hurt he. We felt his presence not
being there and that he's lost. It really affected us
on the defensive side. Just not what we're coaching. I
didn't want to see the melee and all of the

(22:29):
the aftermath.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's not what we're about. This Uh, not representative of us.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
So we know, I'll talk to Azas addressing him personally,
and we'll.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
Move forward from it.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
As it answered. I'm you know, I trusted he go
to get this figured out. Dimico wasn't a dirty player.
He certainly didn't doesn't coach dirty dirty play.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
And if it happens again, then no Alzis is going
to find himself in a severe amount of trouble with
the league now in just the team with the league
hurts his team by being ejected. But again, I don't
know Alsi's at all, But my guess is he's not
a vicious human being. He probably feels very bad for
what he did, but there has to be a punishment
for sometimes for even when you feel bad about something

(23:10):
and you can run to social media apologize. But the
nfl'sill be like your actions speak louder than your tweets. Well,
I don't think you said that anymore, but you can't.
And that's the thing I mean. He he did deliver
the apology, you mentioned that earlier, But I mean in
terms of acting like this is the only time this
has ever happened in the league, or that this will
never happen again if you severely punish as he's alshayer.

(23:32):
I'm sorry, you're not going to get that conclusion. And
the's crazy thing about sports is we celebrate late hits.
And in sports, what a quarterback gets a late hit
and the flag comes down, what does the crown do?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Cheers?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Well, I mean immediately we used to even more. I mean,
you know, God, you mentioned the Four Letter Network earlier.
They used to have a segment called Jacked Up. Now, obviously,
with you know, all of the issues they've had with
the head trauma and everything else in the league gets
kind of now a hey, we've got to get away
from that. Well, you know the types of posts we
saw yesterday, Uh, they're not happening as often because there

(24:05):
are there are coaches in the league and there are
players in the league that have prepared themselves for situations
like this.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's done uneasy, but it has to be done.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
But I mean, that's the thing though, too is I mean,
even veteran people who have covered the NFL for a
long time and are saying that that's the dirtiest and
worst hit they've ever seen in their entire life.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I'm sorry, I just don't believe you.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Like that's this has been a violent game ever since,
ever since its inception, and I mean, you're going to
have plays like this again. That's that's just the way
that the NFL and just football is in general. Well
hopefully not, because as soon as it happened yesterday, it
was very scary. It was it was just really really scary,
and I don't ever want to watch a football game,

(24:47):
thinking to myself, that's the last time I saw it,
particularly athlete walk or talk and chew gum any food, And.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, it's just it was.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
It was really ugly the aftermath of it and all
by the way, I thought, I don't know who was
said it was. It might have been Darryl Johnson had
said this, I'm all for all that was offsetting penalties.
You can't offset all that because if the Texans player,
if that was CJ. Stroud, having that happen to them
by a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you're telling me,

(25:16):
through all that, through all the fights, through the vicious
illegal forearm hit, that the play just never happened.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's absurd. There should be.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
A change in the NFL to say, all right, we
can offset the personal foul calls, but there should have
been a penalty on the play for Jacksonville that would
have advanced the fifteen yards. So I mean, in terms
of like actual real time accountability, like that's that you've
got to make it count for something that hey, this
is what got it started. I understand the emotions afterwards,

(25:49):
but that's what I mean. I think, if nothing else,
I do agree with you on that. I mean, just
go ahead and have that penalty be upheld and tell
the officials, hey, look, we understand what happened after words,
but we've ejected them. We've given them fifteen yards intact,
the other guys, don't throw extra flags. Just get rid
of them out of the game. And again if the
Texans had c J. Stroud had that happen to them,

(26:10):
and you get nothing out of that except just the
redo of the play, football fans would have been would
have been really mad.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And if I was Jacksonville have been mad too. No,
I mean, and now Jacksonville to get.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
The first down ultimately on the play, I believe, But
that was just it was absurd, offsetting penalties, offsetting of
what you had. A Jacksonville player came over one to
kick Alsie's ausher's ass because he you know, he was
trying to, you know, not trying to, but he almost
decapitated his quarterback. No, I mean, that's the thing, is
I mean, I would expect that, Like you said, if
something like that happened to c J. Shroud, then yeah,

(26:44):
you need to have everybody on the field at the time.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You don't think, well Larimie on there and said let's go,
I'm want to throw hands right now, I would expect
larry Wan Tutsler go I want to go throw hands.
I think that CJ.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Stroud would probably, in a roundabout way, expect them to
as well.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
David Missouri, citing at ten thirty eight on seven, David
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Boy, you said it beautiful.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Good morning. Listen. I see these guys. I'm old man,
I'll be up to the La fitness. I see these guys,
you know, working out stuff, throwing fourteen thousand pounds and stuff,
you know, and consecutive workouts.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
If he had to hit that.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Guy underneath that chin, I wouldn't watch football yet. That
could have killed him. If you have to take this
is not a joke. Football is thumb. When I see
nice clean hits, oh wow, everybody you know they gluten
See did you see that? And the guy gets up.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Everybody gets up and continue to play.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Say, football don't have to be uh what you called
MMA wrestling.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Come on, stop stop.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
You don't punch nobody in the face with these out
of bounds and stuff. You gotta stop. You don't twist
quarterbacks legs, ankles. You gotta stop that stuff. NFL has
to get smart and stop that stuff because somebody gonna
get hurt real bad. You're gonna lose a lot of fans,
and this gonna get a bad or washer reputation.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Reputation. You got me all right? Thanks, thank you very
much for the phone call. Appreciate First of all, You're
not gonna lose any fans. Short of every game being
point shaped, You're not losing fans. Everybody loves the NFL,
not going that's.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Not nobody's nobody's watching a game yesterday going I'm done
with football. I mean, maybe they're one person, but I'm
generally speaking, we all still finish the game, we still
watch the game. And again, the NFL players generally speaking,
have done a better job of making sure plays like
this don't happen on a regular basis. But that's and
that's probably the part of the reason why there's gonna
be a suspension, because there has been a trend where

(28:40):
defensive players have been able to manipulate their body somehow,
some way to get away from the quarterback who's sliding. Well,
it's also too I mean, you know, one of the
roles that was implemented this year was the hip drop tackle.
But the problem is you have to call it if
indeed you're going to say, hey, we're putting an emphasis
on this this year and you haven't done that. They've
done They've they've done well enough in terms of you know,

(29:01):
the helmet to helmet hits, take your head out of
the play, all those different types of things. That's fine,
but you've got to be able to do this all
across the board. Then if you're really focused on player safety,
because if that's the case, then it needs to be
emphasized week in and week out with officiating crews. Hey,
we're calling that penalty like it's going to happen. You
have to call it as soon as you see it.

(29:23):
And this is where I mean the increase of instant replay.
We see it in the college game, and I know
that people hate it, but it's also too as well.
I mean, if we're going to say that we're going
to try to get this right, then then get it right.
They did get it right last night, though. That was
exactly that was the appropriate call to be made. I mean,
I know you can go and go to hundreds of
examples of other problems out there, but what we're talking

(29:43):
about yesterday wasn't debatable. There was no way in the
world he should have been able to get away with
that hit and stay in the football game. Call was
made right now, the hip drop things, it's been a
sensitive issue. Joe Mixon would back you up on that situation.
By the way, Adam Schefter just a few seconds ago.
It is anticipated that Alshaier will be suspended. It's just

(30:03):
the question is how long will the suspension be. Yeah,
I mean I can't argue that. I just can't.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It was.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
It was as nasty as it gets. Again, I'm not
condemning him for the rest of his career. I believe
Alsi's Alshaire will hopefully never have that happened again. I
hope this is a huge warning sign for all other
players in his position in the situations that end. And
some of it can be inevitable, but that to me,
at speed, at regular game speed, look like that could

(30:31):
have been avoided. And that's the reason why he's going
to be suspended. Ten forty three Sports Talk seven ninety
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Speaker 2 (32:17):
Going for that basketball tip is up and it is
won by the Rockets. Jalen Green right away behind the
frig and I'll launch it with.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
One to shoot three pointers god thirty five feet as
the shock rock goes off and.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
The Rockets went it, what thirteen to one ten.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
That was a lot of fun last night, and we're
gonna look, we have the Texans. Obviously it's a Monday
after a long weekend of college and pro football, but
we're gonna give him a little run here in this
segment because it was a great game, good atmosphere in
the arena last night. Rockets beat the number one team
in the Western Conference with Oklahoma City, and the Rockets
are now game out of the top spot in the West,

(32:57):
started a road trip that begins tomorrow and Sacker Metal
against the Kings, they'll played the final group play game
in the n season tournament. If they win the game,
they will be at no worse a number two seed.
I think they're gonna be in the number one or
two for the group play tournament anyway, but for the
knockout round. But this is the best basketball we've seen
in five years in this town.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Five years.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
No, it's it's fun to see it again. And it's
also to last night that was a good building. I mean,
I think that you're getting people who are believing in
this team again, which is nice to see. I mean,
because you know, every single city goes through this where
you have the rebuild, you have the tough times, and
then it's you know, maybe you're starting to show me
that there are some signs of life, and then you

(33:39):
miss the playoffs. Okay, I don't know quite yet. And
this is the team that's at least better off than
they were last year at this time where they're putting
themselves in a really good position to stay out of
the play in round and maybe even be one of
the top teams in the Western Conference. You know what
is so crazy about this year? And I'm painting with
the broad brush on this, so I apologize. But one

(34:00):
guy will be terrible one night and amazing the next.
Jalen Green scored forty one points against Philadelphia and Wednesday.
I think you had what nine last night. Albie will
go a game and a half, two games without being
a difference maker, and then all of a sudden, you
wake up and he's won a sister short of a
triple double. Fred van Vliet one night will go three

(34:22):
for fifteen and then he'll hit six or seven shots,
four of them three pointers. Dylan Brooks went oh for
eleven against Philadelphia and Wednesday, and he was the hot
hand in the first quarter against the Thunder last night.
And I think that's kind of how you have to
do it in today's NBA world. If you're expecting one
guy to carry you the entire way short of being

(34:43):
a top three player in NBA.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Didn't happen that way.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well, And that's what you know people want to see
from this Rockets team is I mean, that's why you
continue to get the Hey trade for Giannis, trade for
you know whoever, and they you know, people still want
to have that guy, but didn't Deal Brooks say it
best last week of one night, it might be me,
one night, it might be you. But one way or another,
it's all of us. And that's the why this team

(35:07):
is played. I mean, it's hard to figure out because
you can't you don't know who is going to be
the hot hand and you're all in. And part of
it is scary because when if you're a thunder fan,
you know that shake Yilders Alexander's gonna wake up and
give you thirty points. You know that johann As, if
he's on the floor for Milwaukee's going to get you
twenty five Dame Dame, Uh who am I thinking of?

(35:28):
H Jalen Brown's going to do what his thing, he's
going to do for him, you know, for the for
the Boston Celtics, but the Rockets, it's literally it's, oh,
is it your turn to night? Okay, it's my turn.
And I don't think they obviously plant it out that way.
It just happens to happen to turn out that way. Well,
and it's also too I mean, I think that's why
of all of the players that wear the brunts of
this the most. It's Jalen just because of where he

(35:49):
was picked, and you know you're thinking to yourself, Hey,
that's supposed to be the guy, Like, that's going to
be the guy that's going to lead this team every
single night. I just think he's a streaky player. I mean,
I said this last week when I was hosting Rockets
rap Is. I think with Jalen on the offensive end,
you're just gonna have to ride the highs and the lows.
I mean, he's gonna go through his stretches where he's
not been good. Jabari was awful in the beginning of

(36:09):
the season offensively ten double double last night for the team,
And I mean, and he's a guy that I think
has started to gain a little bit more confidence in
his shot and you're starting to see that play out
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
So I mean, do you what.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I what I feel better about a team that I
was calling games if you had Jason Tatum scoring twenty
eight points every night and you had Shake Yo just
scoring thirty two every night.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because it's a constant, because you know, you wake up
in the arena, it's gonna go there unless it's just
an Nikoliokich is gonna wake up and gonna get you
almost a triple double every single night. Sure the Rockets
don't have that.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And and at some point will one of the guys
on the floor be that for the Rockets, I don't know.
But they're winning despite not having that absolute go to
guy right now. Well, it's also too, I mean it's
it's even guys off the bench as well. I mean
of a man and Tari Easton. I mean, they've been
able to give you that from times. And don't tell
me this team is not in position the position that

(37:00):
they're in right now. With Tarry Easton back. You saw
how much they missed him last year down the stretch.
Ye And you saw though, with you missing him down
the stretch that a men Thompson finally realized, Hey, I'm
comfortable in this role.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I can do this rule. I think he's going to
have a legitimate shot at six Man of the Year.
I really believe that, because he's doing everything you possibly
could ask for it for a first or second guy
coming off the.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Bench, you're talking about a menu. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely,
I mean but I think Tari's shooting, probably his scoring
is going to probably preclude him from getting in that category.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think a men is.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
And for those who don't watch the Rockets a lot,
I get it outside of mind. I would invite you
to come check him out and listen to them radio here. Obviously,
but a man may be one of the finest twenty
year old players right now in the NBA who shot
still not great, it's a little bit better. And obviously
shooting is the number one thing you have to do
in sporting basketball. But if you took that with other intangibles,

(37:54):
he's about as complete of a rocket of a player
the Rockets have, right, and he doesn't have any fear either.
I mean, that's the that's the part of it as well,
is that you know, you just brought it up. He's
twenty years old. He should probably still feel like, yeah,
do I kind of belong? Do I maybe belong? I
don't know, but no, I mean he's kind of he's
taking that element out of the equation. He's saying, no,
I belong, and I can absolutely play well at this level.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And he's a guy too.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I mean that if you ever do need, you know,
load management, whatever it might be, that can be able
to give you some good minutes off the bench. And
the great thing about him is he can play four
different positions for you anywhere from point guard to power
forward if necessary. Second hour of the show. We didn't
really get into much in the game itself, and we
mentioned Mixon was awesome yesterday. The offensive line gave him

(38:36):
so on protection. Secondary, I mean mac Jones came in
and did throws for some passing yards. Jacksonville still has
a difficult time being good because the receivers don't catch everything.
The quarterbacks both of them were overthrown guys yesterday another
one score game. Are you feeling any better? Well, we'll
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Speaker 1 (41:41):
Lunchtimers. This is the Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is eleven oh one.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
On Sports Talk seven ninety. Your Houston Texans are two
games away. I should say magic number of two to
win in the AFC South in the worst kept secret
in the world because the AFC South sucks.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
It just does.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Tennessee got blasted yesterday by Washington, Jacksonville's Jacksonville and Indianapolis.
They beat New England, but even in Texans with New
England won that game. Although the Colts barely held out
of that contest. They had to come from behind to
win that game. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those
that if the Texans don't make the playoffs, then it's
absolutely on them. But the Bills already the first ones

(42:22):
in there. They win that snow Globe game last night,
and they got to put on the hats and the
shirts and everything of saying Hey, we're in the playoffs.
But the Texans now hoping that they're one step closer
to being able to do that, and a combination of
a couple of wins or a win in a lost
by by Indianapolis here.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
In Yeah, so that isn't the issue.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
The issue is the Texans are going to win the
division and win it rather easily, and the question would
then be, can you do it anything the guy that
four spot in the AFC. I highly doubt it because
Pittsburgh is phenomenal. But Buffalo's playing well in Kansas City.
Kansas City, if there is such a thing, is the
luckiest one loss team maybe in NFL history through twelve weeks,

(43:04):
it's definitely them. And the funny thing is is I
was actually thinking about that all My way in today
is you get quite a benefit of the doubt when
you won as much as Kansas City has and of
course back to back Super Bowl champs. Yeah, but I
mean they're pretty much win in the games, the same
way the Texans are brain dead way to end that game,
brain dead, even super more brain dead of a game,

(43:26):
and the way the Chicago trade game that eventually costs
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call when a team loses. But that's you know, it
is what it is. Yeah, because the the easy whipping

(43:48):
boy actually did his job yesterday. The offense actually looks
somewhat the way that we hope that it would look.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
So it is a good balance.

Speaker 11 (43:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
The offensive line held up for the most part. There
was a silly off sides call against Kate Stover that
raced a big play, which is very rarely that you
were did you see in off sides against an offensive player?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
But that happened. Nico Collins got two hundred yards again yesterday.
That was good.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I mean it was I mean to me, the game
was a lot closer than it should have been, but
largely because I thought the Texans defense did not put
much of a pass rush in. I mean, we didn't
hear Will Anderson's name much at all yesterday. I don't
remember how many times Mac Jones and or Trevor Lawrence
got sacked, but I don't think it was very many.

(44:30):
If any I can go. Look but point bing is it?
Jacksonville hung around? They just did well. It's also too
I mean that was you know what I threw out
on Twitter after the game as well, which, by the way,
at Dan Matthews hou all Caps, you know it's me,
But I mean letting Mac Jones cook on that last drive, like, come.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
On that over the top touchdown the back in the
end zone.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
It's not only the touchdown, it's also to giving up
the two points. And I get it too. Hey, look
for everything we're talking about with a ziz al sh
he means a lot to this team defensive. He is
the extension of Demico Ryans out there. So you don't
have him, it kind of throws things out of balance
a little bit, and that's probably what happened on that
last drive.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
But no Jalen Peatrie yesterday and that's probably not gonna
be anymore this year. It feels like peck injury usually
lasts a long strength of time, so I'd be surprised
if he comes back. I mean, it's it.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, it'll it'll be tough to get him back. But
I mean, Jimmy Ward I thought did fine enough at
Jalen Petrie's kind of star position spot on the field.
I mean I wasn't too displeased with him out there.
But also though too, I mean that's part of it
as well, as you know, we hear about it. Oh,
it's the offense. It's the offense. It's the offense. Well
it's also too, it's the defense. Where how about you

(45:44):
don't need to be able to get a first down
or two to then be able to get to knees
and be able to end the game. How about being
able to say, hey, if we've got to punt this
football back, we feel pretty good that we're going to
be able to keep Mac Jones out of the end zone.
Because that part that for me on that final Texans drive,
as I was like, oh boy, you cannot get stuffed

(46:05):
on a couple of runs. Just get a first down,
have a hapless pass right here, and then you've got
to punt the footop back clock. Yeah, I can't. I
can't live in a world where Mac Jones comes back
and beats me. I cannot do that. And luckily you
were able to avoid that. But again, though, It's kind
of a little bit of the frustration with this team
this year of how many times do you have to
grin and bear it through games? And I get what
we're gonna hear the in the postgame locker room afterwards.

(46:27):
Oh it's hard to win in this league. Oh you know,
you don't. You don't blow everybody out in this league.
But when you're facing a two and nine team, yeah,
beat them by at least too soon.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
You need You needed one of those.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
You needed a game where you could win by fourteen
seventeen points and get a little bit of mojoe instead.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
It is a win.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You have been beset by injuries, but everybody in the
NFL has been through that. You lost your best one
of your best defensive players because of the self induced penalty,
but you still won the game. It doesn't make up
with the Tennessee loss at home. Nothing's going to the
next time I think that Texans fans will really have

(47:05):
something in their belly for in terms of excitement will
be the games against Kansas City and Baltimore. And that's
when the next litmus test comes into play. You win
one or both of those games and you're like, you
know what, through all this quote unquote, and.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I hate to use this term.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I hate it more than life itself, adversity because everybody's
got it. Nobody lives a life, and nobody plays the
season in sports without some sort of adversity. But if
you can win those two games that'll get people fired
up for ready for a deep January run. You lose
both those games with these other lackluster victories you've had
so far, and I think people will think about planning

(47:43):
like winter parties in mid June January because they won't
be watching Texans playoff football. Oh, I think it's gonna
come even sooner than that. I mean, after the bye week,
it's going to be a good Miami team who's trying
to climb themselves back in the postseason contention. So I
mean that's going to be one as well. I mean,
because Tua being back completely changes that team. And it's

(48:05):
a team that last year kind of faltered down the stretch,
but they were still a playoff team and they're still
a good football team.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, you know, they they don't playing in cold weather. Frankly,
nobody does. But it's interesting that, you know, no one
in the world gave him a chance to win at
Green Bay or on Thanksgiving night, and they were right
because if it dips the little forty degrees for some reason,
those warm bodies down in South Florida don't like playing
in it, but they're going to have to. Ultimately, they're
going to need to sneak a win in if they're
gonna get in the playoffs. And the best chance them

(48:31):
to do that is to go to Houston or they
won't to worry about temperatures and when in a couple
of weeks. But yeah, the Texans, by the way, bad
planning by the NFL. How in the world anybody has
an off week after Thanksgiving is patently absurd. They don't
mind it.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
As a matter of fact, I think most players would
probably tell you, I want the buy as late as
possible because then for that final stretch drive right there
of those games that they're going to have, you feel
like that you've got as best an opportunity to be
as close to one hundred percent as you possibly. You know,
I would think everybody's got their own opinion on that.
It just seems like to me from a scheduling standpoint,

(49:09):
now that Thanksgiving is wrapped up, now that college football
is just about done, you would want to I would
think you'd want to have every NFL game on in
every market so you can get as many options out there.
I don't know, I just think I would think by
probably pre Thanksgiving, you'd want to have all of your
off weeks done. That's just me for a scheduling. Well,
and they already kind of have too. I mean, after

(49:30):
the the Sunday nights against Detroit, wasn't that the following
was the Monday against the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Am i am? I remembering this correctly, but I mean
the Texans had it.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
We had a Thursday night game against the Jet was
I'm sorry it was it was the Thursday night against
the Jets, and then you had a week and a
half to get ready for Detroit and that didn't really
work out too well for you. But I mean you've
had prolonged times off at times this season. I mean,
because again of getting that extra day of preparation for
Monday night.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That helped.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
But you know also too, you thought that probably that
Detroit game, and at least the first half it looked
like it where you're like, hey, all right, maybe some
adjustments have been made. Maybe this team is turning in
the corner.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Who knows.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Instead, you allowed Jared Goff to throw five interceptions really four,
but five for the sake of the technical aspect of it,
and they left with a victory. And then you sacked
Will Levis eight times and you still lost that game too.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, it's not been a great second half of the team.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
It just hasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
It's been a lot of uh And I don't touch
down the jaws.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
And I don't think winning yesterday all of a sudden
is going to just reinvigorate a group of people that's
probably been a little sartly. I mean, I can tell
you our buddy Adam Clinton puts out these ridiculous videos.
They're fantastic. Why don't you let's let's try that again,
all right, they are great videos. I can't wait till
he does them after every textans whin, I'm sorry, I
don't have to read the Q cards. Matt's own voice. Well,

(50:55):
it's funny. His comments on his Facebook page have been
that didn't feel great. This team is still not gonna
go anywhere. And that's why. I you know, even if
you beat Miami a week from Sunday, it's gonna be
what you do against the big boys, because Kansas City looks,
I mean, for a one lost team, which the strangers
that made it sound there, it looks to be as
vulnerable as anything. So you're not going up to Kansas

(51:17):
City thinking, oh my god, I got no chance, because hell,
if Las Vegas doesn't have a terrible snap by the
center when no one was ready for it, they're kicking
a field goal maybe winning that football game. So it's
not impossible to go to Arrowhead now, grant it may
be cold as af there for that game. And then
Baltimore yesterday it lost so at home to Philadelphia, and

(51:40):
the Steelers are the class of that division. So it's
not like these are so much better than everybody else.
But the Texan's gonna want to act like they want
to be in that category. And I still think if
you after you take Kansas City and you take Baltimore,
maybe you throw pittsburgha Micks. The next tier down of
elite teams involves the Texans, and it's quite a deep
drop back in that second tier. The beauty also, too,

(52:01):
of the playoffs is you just have to be better
that week.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
That's that's all that matters.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
So I mean for Kansas City everything that they're doing
right now, you have the wrong week in the postseason,
it's over, it's done. It's one mistake and that's it.
And and the Texans also too. I talked about this
earlier on in the season, that them winning close games
I thought would benefit them going forward because when you
do play against Baltimore, when you do play against Kansas City,

(52:27):
those are the type of games you're going to be in.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And I mean then.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
It's about, all right, do you make the play late
in games? And at times that's been the Texans problem.
It's been penalties on special teams, penalties to bring back touchdowns,
like all of these different types of things that you're
just kind of like, we're in week fourteen here, guys,
like what's going on? Like why why? Why do these
problems continue to persist with you guys? But it felt
like yesterday wasn't one of those days that's a big possible.

(52:53):
It was a step in the right direction, but I
mean it still was though, too, where the first half
you were absolutely just you weren't even pedestrian. You were
bad in the first points six points against a hapless
two win team, Like that's not good.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
And then again too.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
I talked about it on that final drive that gets
Jacksonville within one score. Like I keep hearing about, Oh,
this defense steps up, this defense steps up. That's when
you need to step up right there. You can't have
Mac Jones leading that team down the field. Yeah, and
thankfully Joe Mixon said, we're not giving the ball back
and that was the saving grace. Seven one three two
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More. Matt Thomas now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Eleven eighteen on Sports Talk seven Nintie, Matt and Dan
Ross is off today. He is in Australia and look
forward to getting him back.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
He is, he moves fast, he does move around quite
a bit. Good for him.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
I only have ever taken two weeks off from radio
intentionally in my life. I had my gall buttter removed,
I had to miss two weeks mono, I had to
miss two weeks at work.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
But I've been like for a vacation.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
I think the longest was a brother in law's wedding
in Hawaii and we were there for a week and
a half.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
But I think I'm gonna go to London next summer
because my middle son is graduating from the Texas A
and M University and he wants to go to a
Beatles tour with me. We've never done that before. I
might take seven or eight days at that point, but
not that and that many. But you know, it teaches him.
I'm glad he's having a great time and he's taking
lots of pictures and whatnot, so we'll get a full
recap of his two week excursion. The funny thing is,

(56:12):
you know, the food is obviously significantly different over there
than it is here. And he's shown me bags of
chips from like lays that are like rib flavored, and yeah,
it's kind of prime rib or something like that, or
sirloin or whatever it was. I did see that. I've
been keeping tabs. But you know, in terms of talking

(56:32):
with Ross, hadn't talked with him since he loved so
I haven't talked to him either. I mean, we've tried
to go what's app but I don't, you know, he's
busy doing his thing. Plus our time difference is signific,
say fifteen hours, yeah it was fourteen I believe where
he is right now. So that's that's kind of tough,
all right, So hit me back in a couple of days,
look forward to getting him back. Look forward to and
we appreciate you stepping in and Gordon as well for
the last couple of weeks. Seven one three, two, one

(56:54):
two five seven Hontys so fighting texta Zaggi's did not fight.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
At least all offensively defensively hung around. Yeah, the score
frankly wasn't indictive of how not close the game was.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
To be brutally honest and arch Manning. I know he's young.
I know he threw a had a mistake interception.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yet today I think you're in a really good spot
with him at quarterback. I really do.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I know yours is battling ankles and issueries like that,
and he's the guy who's been there, done that, and
he obviously was the one that led one of the drives.
But I'm just telling you, this is a very very
impressive Texas football team. I think they're going to and
you would know this better than I. I think they're
significantly better than Georgia. I think they're going to win

(57:40):
the championship in the SEC. I think they're going to
be a top three seed in the College Football Playoff
and I will not be surprised if the Texas Longhorns
win the national championship.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Is that hurtful for you to say? Or no, I'm fine,
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Yeah, I mean that's the beauty of this year's first
of the twelve team playoff is pretty much everybody's got
a shot. I mean, you know, for as ugly as
it was over the last weekend for Ohio State, well,
the good news is they don't have to play Michigan anymore,
so that mental block could be out of their way,
and maybe it is a little bit of a retooling
for them of get into the playoff, have a home
playoff game, and then be able to kind of go

(58:16):
on from there. But in terms of teams that look
the best right now, it's hard to argue against what
Texas has done, and there's gonna be the revenge factor
two of you know what Georgia did to you in
your building, you want to be able to do that
to them, because even though Texas is the home crowd,
Mercedes been Stadium will be overwhelmingly red and black of

(58:38):
Georgia fans there for that. And it's also too as well.
I think Georgia is probably already in but they also
would like to be able to get one of those
top four spots. So that was the game that probably
lived up to the pregame didn't live up to the
pregame hub. Perhaps more thanything else, Ohio st Michigan way
exceeding what we thought it was going to happen because
Michigan was a terrible football team about five hundred. Ohio

(59:01):
State was going to just run them over and over
and over again. Finally get a victory for Michigan or
for a house date in this series, because this group
of four years of Ohio State athletes and not enjoyed
a victory against Michigan.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
And then Michigan goes there and pulls up the upset.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
No, I mean it's watching that game, I just seriously
I couldn't believe just how conservative Ohio State was offensively,
and I mean it was seriously. Every single time it
looked like what at times a Bobby slow At game
plan had looked like, Hey, we're gonna run the football
whether you like it or not.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Well, are you gonna get much out of running.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
The football, because it doesn't look like you are getting that,
So maybe switch it up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
You've got a mechag Buka, you've got Jeremiah Smith, two
of the best receivers on the field, Like, maybe use
them a little bit more than you are in this game.
Then it was dropped passes, and I mean Michigan did
what they were supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
They kept it close.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
I never once thought that Ohio State was going to
lose that game. But then, of course, you know, they
kicked the field goal late, just a few seconds left.
I mean, you get the what was it illegal substitution
after you come out of a timeout and you're still
not lined up properly? Like it seriously, was every single
bit of frustration for Ohio State fans that I can

(01:00:16):
understand them being pretty miffed with Ryan Day right now.
So that wasn't the game in itself, frankly, was futility
on both sides. It was the alleged planting of the
flag at the Ohio State fifty yard line.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Don't tell Jack Sawyer he didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I'm gonna be brutally honest with you, and I mentioned
this on Twitter as soon as it happened. I'm kind
of pro s talking in college sports. I don't ever
get offended by it when people come at me for
the University of Houston and my thoughts about their football
program or running you know, athletically done, and we lose
a game because a blank talk that other school and

(01:00:55):
they want them blank tought me back, I thought Gus
Johnson and Joel Clyde, who were broadcasters for the game
on Saturday, took it way overboard of this is horrible
for the game, This is so unsportsmen, like, this is
a dirty way to end it. Well, guess what you
didn't do cut away? You didn't cut away because everybody

(01:01:16):
wanted to watch it. Gus, everybody wanted Everybody wanted to
watch it, Joel, everybody likes a little blank talking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Well, and if you want to plant your flag there,
I'm not saying that you should be giving carte blanche,
but if you can get to the fifty yard line
and do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
So what, well, it's also too I mean, it's Bragger's rights.
I mean, the Michigan had zero business winning that football game.
They're they're not a good football team this year, but
they physically beat up Ohio State and they pretty much
knew once the game was closed, Hey, these guys don't
really truly believe they can beat us, and they were
able to get over the top and be able to

(01:01:53):
beat them. And that's that's an Ohio State problem, it's
not Michigan's problem. I mean I kind of understood why
Michigan and did what they did. After the game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah, I don't want to do that. You know, if
you're we completely run you guys, if you're playing you know,
U tap or you're playing Middle Tennessee or something, you
can't jump the field every time you want a game.
But they're just gonna be a handful of times that
I kind of like, you know what, these are two
of the most hated schools towards each other. There are
people that live and breathe and die to make sure

(01:02:22):
the other team loses. Like, for instance, if Texas want
to want to drop a flag of the fifty yard
line of Kyle Field.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
So what they tried. They tried so uh. Bob Aloo,
who does TV in the Austin area, had the video
of Steve Sarkisian, you know players, they're doing the Eyes
of Texas and all that, and then he starts to hear, hey,
let's go to midfield or something like that. Yeah, and
you see Sarkesian himself running over and saying, no, no, no,
We're we're not doing it. We're not gonna jump on

(01:02:48):
the logo, We're not gonna We're just we're not gonna
do it. Let's go to the locker room. There's enough
emotions already. We don't need to feed into them. Let's
enjoy the win.

Speaker 12 (01:02:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
I'm not endorsing doing it, but I'm saying that I
thought the faux outrage of it happening was a little
over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It was ridiculous. And what he is what you don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I don't want to I don't want to come out
and cross and saying, well, I want these guys to
do it. And if they want up throwing helmets at
each other and trying to hurt themselves, that's not good
for the sport I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
I'm just saying that I thought, for a for two
teams that despise each other as much as they do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
And I'm not saying that Michigan, that Michigan would have
been better served. I'm not doing it. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Ohio State, uh, you know, didn't appropriately act the way
that they did. But these are two schools that it's
it's nasty, let's been that way for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
You, You're never going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
We respect them, they respect us. It's a good competitive matchup.
They recruit against each other, they blank talk each other
all the time. Their constant rivals in the Big Ten.
They are two of the most high profile programs in
the country that have to be about an hour flight
away from each other. I just thought for some for
network to get, oh, this is the worst event of

(01:04:09):
sportsmanship in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I was like, get over it. It's two teams that
despise each other.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Well, it's also too, I mean, and you know, there's
the video that surfaced one of the Michigan guys throwing
something that kind of really ignited this thing even more.
I get all of that, but I mean I came
out of it twofold with Ohio State. I came out
of it number one of that's embarrassing for you because
not only did they beat you up on the field,
but now they really let you know, like we.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Run this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
This is this is our house, and we're going to
come in here and show you that it's our house.
The other one, as well, is Ryan Day being frozen stiff,
and it is staring and asking somebody what happened. And
a buddy of mine's a huge Ohio State fan. He
threw out and I agree with him. He goes, that
is a pretty good indicator of what this rivalry has

(01:04:59):
been for some time, and not only this rivalry, but
how Ryan Day has been in huge games. But the
reality is this, we are seeing more of this than
ever before. So I guess I'm gonna have to net
a lot bygowns through eyegions because we're seeing guys punching
each other. We're seeing fights between North Carolina and North
Carolina State. We saw uhb Yu with a little bit

(01:05:20):
of a post of the guy throwing a punch. I mean,
we've we're actually seeing probably too much of it. So
I guess if we can't control it, and it can't
be just good old fashion and sportsman like blank talking
that none of us can be. Here's the unfortunate truth, though,
is that you don't have a central governing body in
college football. The College Football Playoff wants to step up
and be that then by all means, But until then,

(01:05:41):
it's gonna have to come down to the conferences. I mean,
you had a conference that band doing the horns down
that was a penalty if you didn't. They they had
it as a rule, it was in their bylaws that
you just can't do it. If I'm I saw all
the AGI fans doing the horns that. I'm all for it,
but it's also though too. I mean, that's it's going
to litigate this even I don't even know if that's

(01:06:02):
the right word, but follow me on this is the
SEC has to step in and say, hey, you plant flags,
there is going to be punishment. You know, the Big
ten has to do it as well. That's what's going
to come down to is these is these power conferences
are gonna have to be the ones that say, hey,
we're done with the flag planning.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
You do it. There's going to be consequences for you
doing that. So what should be the consequence? I mean,
you can find you can.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Why why does any twenty year old kid care if
he gets fined? You should should we talking about it?
Sus spending him for the next game? That would that
would be the one that would be the way that
would hurt. I mean because there are rules, and I
mean I think all conferences have rules for field storming,
Like for the SEC, the first one, I think it's
like fifty thousand, next one it's one hundred thousand. I
mean they even stepped up too with the fake injuries.

(01:06:49):
I mean, you got Greg Sankie send down a memo
and say, hey, look, if this gets too far out
of hand, I'm going to start to spend out if
you want, if you want flag planying to be elimined,
you're going to start videotaping these postgames, celebrate and if
you catch anybody doing it are involved in you to
spend them for the next game. And most of these
these flag planning situations are usually the last games of
the year against the hated rivals. Imagine telling a handful

(01:07:09):
of Ohio State players that can't play in a bowl
game or a college football playoff game because of a
flag plan then they'll stop doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
All right.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
How dare you? How dare you? Why y'all both shaking
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Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Well, I mean, because I do understand that most of
your musical taste don't go past nineteen eighty. But that's
This's rude but fair. This is this is my heyday
of music. This is a band called Incubus that was
really huge when I was in high school. And I've
had subsequent albums ever since. Like one of their best
was Morning View and they just remastered it last year

(01:09:31):
and re released it and it was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Turn up you you you legitimately jammed this song backside here,
all of it. Okay, that's fair. And every time I
have a chance to go see them live, I go
see them live. What the same of the group again? Incubus?

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Incubus and the lead singer's name is Brandon Boyd. Nice guy,
great guy. All right, you hear the pipes, you can
belt it? I mean he sounds very nineties to me. Well,
I mean it's fantastic music. Well, what do you want
me to appologist?

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lost to North cal Estate for all the miss free
throws and foul trouble they got in and allow that
dumbass North cal st eighteen to win the national championship
by that miracle slam dunker put back. I mean, I'll

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never get over it, but I'm gonna pardon it. So
no love, I love I love you Dream, I love
you Clyde, I love you Read Guettis, Alvin Franklin, Benny Anders.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
You gotta hit your free throws.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
I pardon you for missing those free throws and allowing
North Caliestate to hang around the basketball game. And I
pardon Youed Clyde. Drugs are getting into foul trouble s
early in the game too. I pardoned aj Hinch you
do for nineteen for no point Will Harris not going
to Garrett Cole and having Will Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I'd held it against him for the longest time. That's fair,
And I understand.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
You know, he made the quip about it's nice to
be on this side of the foul poll this time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
That hurt a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
But also though too, I want to remember the good
times that Aj Hench gave this organization and also to
how he treated us even though I wasn't here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yep, great guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I mean so I think we we should remember Aj
for the great things that he did here during his
Astros tenure. I pardon Oilers defensive coordinator Jim Eddie for
allowing all those touchdowns to Frank Reich in the second
half of the game between the Bills and the Texan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
That's a tough one. I have to do it. Some
these partons are not going to be easy. They're not.
I mean, no, never forget about them. But you got
to do it. But hey, you think it was easy
for President Biden to pardon his son.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Actually as a example, sorry, sir, I pardon you Jim
Eddie for making no defensive adjustments.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I just do I parton Dave Smith for blowing the
lead against the Mets in eighty six games six of
the Astronom told you my parents were at that game.
They had to leave early. Yeah, me as you're a
bad bratt. You're a spoiled bratt kid, and I was
not even one years old, so you're definitely spoiled at least. Sure. Yes,

(01:12:23):
I pardon Chandler Parsons and James Harden for not defending
Damian Allard on that play in the Western Conference playoff
round against the Blazers way back in the day. Yeah,
I pardon Jeffrey Bagwell for giving Jim Crane terrible advice
about signing jose A Brad to a three year contract.
And now hold it, you're abusing your executive power. What

(01:12:44):
do you mean? This is endless. I gotta get this
off my chest. There's no minimum or maximium or pardons.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Yeah, I mean, I get where you're going with this,
because you're ready to move on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
But it's also though too.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
I mean, part of the Astros being in the role
of predicament that they may or may not be in
right now is because you've got over thirty million dollars
players that you're probably not gonna use. Maybe Montero, but
one of my favorite players of all time grind it
out through soulder injuries a back third of his career,
and jeff is just trying to live his best life,

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trying to live a straight and narrow after having some
off the field issues after his playing creve was done
and Jim Kran asked for his advice, and Jeff gave
it to him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
It was incredibly bad advice. I still pardon him, But
don't break what's not broken.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Like that's the that that to me was when he
gave the whole press scrum. If there's one thing I know,
it's baseball and all the analytics stuff. Well, the analytics
stuff's been working out. You're not parting, Jeff Bagwell, it's
your pardon. You have the executive I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I can't let it live on. I just can't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
I pardon Yao, mean go ahead, because I think that
Yao is remembered pretty unfairly in this town. Yao brought
this organization back to respect.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
What do we do wrong? That the injuries, Well, you
cannot parton a man because of engine injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Well, I mean also too. I think in many people's eyes,
he didn't live up to the potential what they thought
he would have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
But he didn't do anything wrong. I'm hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Some people will get pardoned that didn't necessarily do anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
No, you're if you're if a president's parting is because
you did something crime written, right, Yeah, not necessarily, Like
they give me an example who got pardoned for not
doing something illegal? You can't. That's fine, We're not a
political show. But I am going to be on the spot.
You have to do something illegal and crime to get pardoned. Well,
what's illegal to some is maybe not so illegal to others.

(01:14:37):
Look Yao, Ming to me was was underwhelming, but I
wouldn't if he didn't do anything criminally wrong or wrong,
right or right? Yeah, yeah, it's all it's all relative.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
But I mean, I think people thought that championships were
gonna happen under Yo, and that didn't happen outside of
two thousand and nine. Really during his tenure, he didn't
necessarily believe that this team had an opportunity to be
able to reach that point. I pardoned Dana Holgerson for
stop recruiting last year because I think we're in a
better spot with Willie Fritz. Okay, so Dana, you've been pardoned.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I just I pardoned Jake O'Donnell for throwing Clyde Drexer
out of a playoff game in the nineteen ninety five playoffs.
So Scott Foster is probably not going to get a
pardon in this Yeah and no, no, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
But Jake o'donald through Clyde Drex are out in a
playoff game against Phoenix and never referee to game again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I pardon you. I accept your mistake. Move on.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
I pardon Matt Job for what those pick sixes, well
pick sixes, but also I think that he liked many quarterbacks.
He wasn't a superstar. I get all of that, but
he also was a huge reason why this team was
in the position they were in to be able to
win in the beginning parts of the two thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
I don't think you're getting the gist of this conversation. Well,
I think I very much him. You're partning.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
If you're gonna parton Matchjob, you're gonna because he through
consecutive pick six over it's against the match Job sucks crowd.
There was always the loud Matt Job sucks crowd. And
I mean there was a time in Texans history where
having the early part of the twenty tens version, but
pre pick six Matt Job would have absolutely been yearned for.

(01:16:22):
Let me give you Tom Savage years, dude, the Brandon
Whedon years. I do not pardon Cal McNair for hiring
Jack easterb. I do not pardon that under any circumstance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
No, no, so seven one three two one two five seven.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
I know if somebody else didn't get a pardon either.
He used to wear number four, played for the Texans.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no pardon no no,
no pardons no, Felipe, you're in charge of partning a
Houston sports figure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Who do you give a pardon to? Well, Dan took
one for mine. It was the uh agent A J.
Hinch and not bringing in Garrett Cole. I party new
advans for that decision. Uh And two.

Speaker 11 (01:17:05):
The rocket is I pardon you for missing twenty seventh Street?

Speaker 9 (01:17:09):
Oh breaking, Oh oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
It was a painful memory. Yeah. I don't know if
I can do that. See ya, that hurts so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I was at I was at Braves game that night.
I was hosting the suite for the station I was
working for, and towards the end of the game, I
was back in like the little kind of living room
area of their just watching that game, angrily watching that
game and might have forgotten that I was entertaining clients.
But that's another story, because it was We're so damn

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close to making it to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
And this is how it happens, and against those guys.
That was tough. Trevor Reza. All right, anybody else you
want to pardon, We're here for you now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Connor, is there any Missouri Tiger quarterback you would like
to parten for past discretion?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Sorry? No, no, I'm just thinking about that out loud.

Speaker 12 (01:18:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Why is Maddie Mark catching strays? Yeah? All right, you
want to parton somebody? Let's go seven one three two,
one two five seven ninety A song is kind of
a banger in it. It's amazing seven one three two
My favorite, though, what is your favorite? Wish you were here?
Really it's a great song. Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Seven one three two one two five seven nine zero.
I will give you no pardons if you do not
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(01:18:58):
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twenty five dollars you buy from Big City Wings, you'll
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Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
What more Matt Thomas now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Connor, who are you partning?

Speaker 13 (01:19:41):
I was kind of having a hard time thinking of one,
but maybe less Alexander for charging up the racking up
the rents at the Toda Center and so force the
Houstonnaros out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Wow, you went deep in the weeds on that one.

Speaker 13 (01:19:54):
Yeah, the hous Scenarios had to the highest rent of
any Ahl franchise, and they had to leave and go
to Iowa, and I missed them a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Well, we'll get you an NHL team eventually, maybe a while,
but you know we're gonna wait for it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Okay, but yeah, that's Alexander.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
You have the power to pardon. Who are you pardoning?

Speaker 11 (01:20:12):
I've got two pardons. One I'm going to, officially for
the City Houston, pardon Vernon Maxwell for leaving the second
team during the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Got you.

Speaker 11 (01:20:24):
The second one is I'm going to pardon former U
of H head coach Tom Herman for running up the
score against my Texas State by having an on side
kick and a reverse half back option pass in the
first half when already up by four touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Hmm, okay, teach his own.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Are you not pardon Kevin Someone for not caring about
my Cougars against Southern Miss to lose the Conference USA
championship game in a trip to go to the Sugar Bowl.
No pardon, Sorry, was a rough one. I don't pardon
Bucky Richards for trying to take Kevin Someone either. Sorry, Bucks,
I actually know what I do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
You know what Bucky? You do? Get a pardon? You
inherited Kevin Summon and what did your program do after that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Bubkis I'm the guy won a Heisman Trophy. He didn't
win it, he did not. It was the guy that
we're number two on the same lines with Les Alexander.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
I pardon him for.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Uh condoning the overuse of money money and I love
rock and roll And.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Who's the is it? The is the four Tops?

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
Who?

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Who was the the Jersey Boys? They would always play
uh that not Oh what a night.

Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
That was?

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
That was part of a bunch of music that was
way overplayed where it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Not really the crowd. You want to play it to
here at an NBA game. Okay, let's see, um, Brian, Brian,
who are you partning?

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:21:57):
Man, I got to well, somebody took by Vernon Maxwell
and I was gonna give I'm a pardon, you know what,
And as a long time Houston sports fan and Dan
I Fewstonian, I'm ready to finally pardon Brad Leach for
the shot heard around the world, which is still ascending.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
It worked out okay.

Speaker 10 (01:22:12):
Because we clinched the next night, but we didn't get
to join.

Speaker 14 (01:22:16):
At home in front of.

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
The home fans, and Matt I am finally ready after
thirty one years to pardon Jim Eddie for his god aful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I did the same thing. I pardon Jim Eddie. I'm
finally ready to pardon Jim Eddie. And the players get.

Speaker 10 (01:22:32):
No grace because you stopped to perform and perform. But
Jim Eddie, you have my full fledged pardon on your
prevent defense and the second.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Half prevented a victory. Thank you very much. Tell you
we a lot of us had to part in this
ninety three order team. It's just what it is. Well,
I mean, so much promise, and you felt like, all right, hey,
we're gonna get back to the love you Blue days
and we're actually gonna be able to maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Play for one of those things one day. Brian Lolaredo,
you have the power to pardon. What are you getting
rid of? Who? You who? You're saying it's all pardoned?

Speaker 12 (01:23:05):
Hey, I want to pardon Love Smith for winning that
last game in the bout?

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Yeah, because we crushed him. The entire city had crushed him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
How you gave up the chance of the number one
picking Bryce Young? How there could you do that? Great? Pardon?

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Love He's sacrificed so C J. Shroud could fly otherwise
we have Bryce Young here in Houston right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Mmm. I pardon n Assario for not going to an
offensive lineman at the trade deadline. I've given you my
thoughts on that, just throwing that out there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Um, that's a good ones coming in on Twitter too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
D What do you got? What are you reading? Joan?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
I pardon Gary Kubiak for not getting Peyton Manning because
remember Peyton Manning had the story on the Manning Cast
a couple of weeks ago that he wanted to to Houston,
but that Gary wanted to stick with Matt Shop.

Speaker 9 (01:24:03):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
I parton Charlie Cashley for having and and uh and
Dom Caper's having extra faith in Derek Carr, not David
car excuse me, David Carry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Gary gave it a shot and then Gary said, yeah,
not this scar, and I got one for you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
This is the do we part in twenty seventeen asters?

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Easily? Yeah easy, because everybody was doing it. This got caught.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
We We've been doing this for the longest time. Guess what,
I'm not part of the damn rat and that for
damn sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
No, no, he gets nothing and he'll like it. Roger,
who are you Partning?

Speaker 14 (01:24:36):
I've got a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I'm gonna partner Lewis Lord at Mitchell eighty six. Oh
bless it for blessed for cocaine of use.

Speaker 15 (01:24:43):
And I've got parton Uh Daddy Age for smashing in
the face with a basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
I pardon, thank you very much. That's good, that's really good.
I pardon the Utah Jazz for beating my rockets on
John Stockton's three point shot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
I can't do you. Still lost to the Chicago Bulls.
Suck it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I can't do that. They cheap shot artists, floppers, jersey tuggers,
all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
You're right. Forget that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
I've said that Jerry Sloan, that smug looked that he'd
ever loved Jerry Sloan. See, I was there during the
last years of his coaching career in Utah. Still I
love the guy. I'll say that him. George carl I
like to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Girl like George Crompton. I will not.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
I will not pardon Amy Crunk's drunk No, not gonna happen,
or the entire Adam's family. I will pardon Texans Darlene
for not appearing on national television yesterday and not knowing
who at least five of the Texans players are. No,
I think you've got that wrong. They know who the
Texans players are. And it's also where it's kind of like,

(01:25:51):
why do you know all of that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yeah, you know Anthony and Derek Park. Who do you pardon?

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
Hey, guys, I have a couple of them. First, I
want to parton Cole McCoy for leaving us with freshman
Garrett Gilbert in the National Championship.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
You should pardon his dad from treating him with kid
gloves too.

Speaker 12 (01:26:13):
I mean, I get looking out for yourself, man, but
it's the National Championship, and I think Texas wins that
game if Cole McCoy stays in the game. And secondly,
I'd like to parton the entire two thousand and five
Astros Bullpen for single handedly costing US a World Series
championship in two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
How that hurts. I pardon Jeff Bagwell and Craig Vigil's octobers.
They were rough still great, two of my favorite players
of all time. I pardon them all. I do.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
I pardon Orlando Paul Merrow for grounding in the Dead
ground out to in the World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
I pardon Kevin Bass for taking swinging and miss it
on strike three against Jesse Rosco eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Six games six of the Nationally Championship Series. Man Jesse
Roscoe throwing his glove up in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
I don't know, pardon that I to that for now? Sure, No,
none of that Mets team Seth on seven ninety Seth,
who are you partning?

Speaker 14 (01:27:12):
Okay, so let's stick with two thousand and four Astros.
I want to part in Carlos Delton for leaving Houston
going to the Nets. You know, I really want to
matter because then he came back in twenty seventeen, not
about the scandal, but his World Series Ringlets all stay
for his World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Ring does have the ass what go on?

Speaker 14 (01:27:32):
So for me, Carlos Beltron, you here by our pardon?

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
All right, thank you very much. Last one, Brad, Brad's
got a list.

Speaker 16 (01:27:40):
Hello, Brad, I want to pardon mcnare for hiring Bill
O'Brien is the GM and trading DeAndre options.

Speaker 15 (01:27:53):
I think Bill O'Brien was a horrible GM, but he
was a fair coach. And then the second one, it's
only if Ross pardons me is quit standing me from
the postgame cos man, that's not right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
All right, thank you, Brett. Well, it's Dan.

Speaker 12 (01:28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
I was gonna say, if you're gonna you're gonna give
almost there, and I was about to invite you, but uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Really fast, uh, Beard bearded something. I pardon Kelvin Cato
for stealing money from the Rockets. That's true. Why is
it for accepting it? Brennan says, I pardon Chris Paul's hamstring. Yeah,
that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
Uh oh, here's one from Dave h Jim McMullen family
for allowing Nolan Ryan to go to Arlington.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Sorry, I cannot do that. I do not pardon Jim
McMullen for that is Jim m multins on. Jim mcmullens.

Speaker 11 (01:28:48):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Let's mc mullen's first name, John, John mcmallon. Wasn't Jim, Yes, John?

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Uh, let's see here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
I pardon Jared Culver for collapsing off the drive of
the lanes to guarding the three in the twenty nineteen
National Championship game. That's interesting, little Texa tech run there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Yeah, it's I mean, there's there's many that are endless.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
I mean, you know this partning of Carlos Gomez yikes.
I mean, look, he didn't he didn't want to perform poorly,
and you gave up a ton and you gave up
probably the young but not probably the younger version of
Josh Hater. What could have been a Josh Haider, possibly
in an Astros uniform.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Let's go. That was pardoning. That was excellent. What are
that ones? Next time? It was a big garden? We
have to do it again.

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Launch Timers. This is the Matt Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Show, twelve oh six, Sports Talk seven ninety. We go
back to your phones. We go back to all things Texans,
all things Rockets, all things of the busy college football weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
After we check in with Dan and the News at noon.
All right, you talked about the Texans. They beat the
Jags yesterday twenty three, twenty eight and five on the season,
Joe Mixon twenty carries one hundred and one yards touchdown
C J. Stroud twenty two to thirty four for two
hundred and forty two yards and atd and of course,

(01:31:26):
as he is al Shaer ejected for his hit on
Trevor Lawrence, suspension strong possibility. My comment is he should
be suspended. I don't think it should be multiple games.
I think he will be suspended for the Miami game.
I think the video of that is going to be
as damning once everybody sees it. Frankly, yesterday Jacksonville and

(01:31:46):
Houston was on a radar. Is a big game today,
the day after, the day after that, when people are
trying to generate news headlines, that HiT's going to be
shown by everybody around circles. And if he doesn't get suspended,
there can be a lot of people are saying, what
are you do in NFL?

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Well, it's not protecting your players.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
That's the curse of social media though, because it's already
but it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Right decision though. That's I don't care if it's a
curse social media or not. Elsis I'll share here. I again,
I'm not ready to condemn him for the rest of
his NFL career, he should come back. He obviously apologized
all the right things, but just saying you're sorry sometimes
isn't enough. If that was the case, that never would
be punished by my mother, I said, I started to
her a bunch of times in my life. Oh I
still grounded. Yeah, he's still be grounded on one game grounding.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
I'm gonna ask him not to miss, not to play
a game again this season. But if the NFL is
serious about protecting it's quarterbacks, which it clearly has a
protection link of its quarterbacks, I don't care if people
are arguing, did he slide too late or what was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
You're supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Guess what, there are still plenty of players in the
NFL that know how to avoid such collisions. Elsie's was
not one of them and should face the punishment for it.
But I'm not ready to condemn. I'm not saying he's
the dirtiest player in the world. I'm just saying the
punishment needs to fit the crime, and the crime was
you took a guy out. Well, I mean it's also
too in situations like this, it's who's saying things the loudest,

(01:33:07):
and who am I willing to listen to a lot
of former players come in to al Shayer's defense, as
you would expect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I mean, I saw one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
I believe it was Manuelacho of course, who played on
the defensive side of the ball, said it was an
illegal hit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
It was not a dirty hit.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
That there is a difference in terms of a dirty
hit obviously is with intent to injure. I don't think
that it was necessarily as these Alshayer's intent to injure.
I don't and I'm watching a play, and I watched
it several times after the game yesterday. I don't think
as the US is going, I'm going ready to go
destroy this guy. But it was illegal and illegal activity.

(01:33:46):
I don't mean to go twenty five miles an hour.
I didn't do it with intention to go eighty seven
miles an hour on the freeway. You still hit me
with your car, Yeah, you still hit me, or I
still cause an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
It is what it is. You got it, you know.
And this is just being real. I mean I could
be ooh college geeshokes, I'm Houston home radio hosts. Oh,
that was nothing wrong. I'm not gonna do that. Well,
I'm gonna say I'm not gonna crush him for the
rest of his life. I'm not gonna say he's a
bad dude. I'm not gonna be Darryl Johnson going this
is the most a horrible thing, and all the NFL analysts,

(01:34:17):
I'm gonna tell you, for what one Houston football person thinks,
me sports guy, nothing more than that, nothing less.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
There's much opinion you Shore's value. I don't have any
more saying it is anything else. I say, you gotta
punish the incident, just like if CJ. Stride would have
been hit terribly by somebody else. Yeah, but again that's
a mistake on their part.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
The NFL is gonna let this thing's gonna show up.
It's gonna show up all over the place. They're gonna say,
you just can't give him a thirteen thousand dollars. Fine, well,
I mean you've got to be able to prove a
point of saying, hey, look we've got to take this
out of the game in a way we're gonna do
that is not only are you gonna be missing game time,
you're gonna be missing game time pay as well. And

(01:35:00):
that usually gets people's attention. So that's probably what they'll
end up doing rockets. Beat the Thunder one nineteen one sixteen.
Fred van Vliet thirty eight points at him off Tonight
Kings Tomorrow night in Sacramento. You excited about going to
the Golden State's capital city.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
It's fine. How's that new arena is beautiful? Yeah? They
have a hotel right next to it, which is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Some have to worry about getting on a bus and
just get there as late as humanly possible.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
I'm mister lake gig late getting their guy. Okay, you're
gonna get there in plenty of time too. I mean, like,
what's the the Monday night dining scene?

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Probably staying in my hotel? Oh wow? Okay. See that's
one thing is people always don't comprehend is that we
don't treat these largely as vacation trips. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Like that's the thing too, is like it cracks me up.
You know, hey, you know, are you gonna be able
to go do this? You can be able to go
do that? My response is always I can maybe do
a dinner or like coffee or breakfast or something.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
But aside from that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Plus ave been of these cities. I mean I'm in
a Sacramento fifteen times in the last eight years. It's
not there's nothing new for me to go. Look, I
guess I can go check out with the Ace play,
but why would I want to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Point being, is this good dinner, good arena. I'm happy. Okay,
that's fair, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
And it's also good basketball team that makes me most happy.
I mean, blackout curtains too. So you can sleep incredibly well. Yeah,
I can't sleep on the road really new. I I
sometimes get better sleep on the road than I do
at home. Oh I wish I could, because I know
the dog's looking me up at five forty five in
the morning. That's true, man, it is what it is. Yeah,
what else you got called? Still love you, Pixie? Still
love you Chaco? All right, Chocko Chaco. It's our other dog. Yeah,

(01:36:37):
like Choco Taco. So basically you're equating your dog to
a frozen treat.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Yeah, okay, you sweep up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Texas beats Texas A and M seventeen to seven. They're
going to the SEC championship game rematch against Georgia, and
Texas is going to win the SEC in their first year,
and it took A and M. Thirteen years. Oh you
still haven't gotten there yet. Oh listen, how rude you are.
Don't be Those facts are facts. Don't get mad at
me because the truth is the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
So what did A and M finish with the record
of eight and four? Eight and four? If Jimbo would
have gone eight and four again, so would have gotten fired.
He wasn't brought there to go eight and four.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
He was brought there at the very least to have
a bad season bu going nine to three.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
So what has Mike Calco have been brought there to do?

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
To be able to at least give stability to the
program and hopefully do what Jimbo never did. Okay, So
waiting for that SEC championship appearance? Yes, thirteen years in County?

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Are the Texans the aggies of pro football?

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
They haven't been around long enough to have expectations like
it hasn't been long enough the Texans. They've been around
twenty two years are you talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:37:46):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
But A and M hasn't won a national title since
we had young men fighting overseas in Europe in World
War two lead so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
They have to not go to the Super Bowl for
another sixty years. For this to happen. Okay, I see,
I see.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
I'll leave that. What you think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
I'm already in Dutch with Aggie fans. Real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
Here Syracuse football reporter accusing Miami mascot Sebastian the Ibis
of hitting on her during the game.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Now, don't we know? Hold on? I think I love
this story.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Yes, go ahead, So Ashley Waskowski wins Skowski is her name.
She's a reporter for C and Y Central there in
New York. And she called out Sebastian during the Oranges
forty two thirty eight upset win over Miami and the
Carrier Dome, and she threw.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
It out there on X.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
Sebastian the Ibis just kneeled down and asked for my
number mid drive. Feels like he has bigger things to
worry about, like his team on the ropes in the
fourth quarter here at the Dome.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Did she get them? She didn't say.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
If she did, I hadn't the rule of I mean
you were a mascot. Yes, I was the rule of
the mascot speak. There you go, there you go. I'm
gonna give you a I can't be doing this. I
can get your break. Male mascots can pull.

Speaker 12 (01:39:11):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Is it like the shroud of mystery?

Speaker 15 (01:39:13):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Is that what it is? You don't know what he
looks like underneath.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
I've known a handful of male mascots in my life,
and they've all been able to pull.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Interesting. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I think when you put the girt, when you put
the uniform on it and change you who you are now. Meanwhile,
I in high school could not pull because I was
not the most attractive man in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
I'm much now. I'm much textier today than I was
in high school. Good for you. So if you want
to put a mascot at uniform on me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Now, I could pull. I don't know if i'd want
to be in there. Like, I'm very sensitive to smells,
and I feel like those things can really smell.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
That's true. Yeah, I don't want that, all right, But
you could pull if you wear a mascot in uniform.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
I'm just saying, but I don't need to pull anymore.
I'm goods throwing it out there, and that's the news.
At noon, we go to the phones. Next twelve fifteen,
How about that first segue. I like that I liked
your story.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
That was good. I knew, I knew that it would
be right in your wheel house, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
Matt Thomas, now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Triand to the show, cannot mention his name to protect
his anonymity, says that he pardons Charlie Casseley for listening
to somebody to think David car will be a better
pro prospect than Julius Peppers. Mmmmm, pardon Matt shob for
not changing the play after Owen Daniels begged him in

(01:41:56):
the huddle right before we threw the pick six of
Richard Sherman in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Hmmm. He's got deep rooted ties over there in Texanville,
knowing some of the minutia that is Texans football. Back
in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
So we're here for so next time we anybody gets pardoned,
if we if we if if if President Trump starts
parting people, then we can bring back to part We
can only parton win a president pardons somebody that fair.
That's the Yeah, that's absolutely mean, because you know, if
you abuse the power.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Yeah, you do it too much, it ruins the bit.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Yeah, then then you start getting you know, it becomes
watered down, and nobody wants anything watered down. I'm gonna
think about this. I got a four hour flight to
Sacramento this afternoon. I'm gonna think about ten more partner.
I feel like I got a bunch that I'm leaving
on the table. There's quite a few that that absolutely
could have could have been thrown out there because all
you gotta do is thing about every bad moment in

(01:42:51):
your Houston sports fandom and think about that and go, Okay,
I forgive that person, although I don't forgive I don't
forgive anything that the mcnaire's did in hiring Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Ass. I don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
I don't pardon them for hiring Cash Easter b No,
I don't, I don't. I don't condone I don't pardon
the David cully Hire Nope. What about you know Dome
Days Astros playoff villains. I mean you brought it up
with some of the Mets, but like Kevin Brown, Greg Vaughan,

(01:43:24):
Jim Lairetz, Sterling Hitchcock for ninety eight, they were all
better Walt Weiss. They all performed up the middle. John Rocker.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Not good.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Gary in Palestine until twenty four on seven on eight?
Is it Palestine or Palestine? I always mix it.

Speaker 9 (01:43:41):
Up Palestine Texas. My name's Gary, and I used to
be in radio many years ago. I'm seventy years old.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
What did you do in radio? Mask?

Speaker 9 (01:43:50):
High school college football for Steven at Boston back in
the late eighties, and I did the SFI Lady Jacks
back when they were nationally ranked Division one. They hosted
the Midwest Region ninety three and ninety six. I did
those games, and a lot of small colleges like East
Texas Baptist and Marshall Eturno in Longview. So I'm seventy

(01:44:11):
years old but still a big sports fan.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Well, good, what's on your mind? Thank you for calling?
What's up? Well?

Speaker 9 (01:44:16):
I love Texas, but I just want to show a
little love for an underdog. They asked a few Monthstangs.
I've been following them this year. They're a great team.
I just wanted to hang up get your thoughts about
their chances. They're playing Clemson their first year in the
conference this weekend, and I don't want to take any
thing away from any of the Texas teams, but I
just really love this team. They scored sixty six points

(01:44:40):
earlier this year on TCU. What are your thoughts about
the Mustangs, their chances? What do you think they'll do
this weekend? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Thanks Scary for the phone call, appreciate it. I don't
really I'm not watched a lot of them, Honestly. I
kind of keep it to the local super local teams,
although a SMU has had a fantastic gear. But from
what I can tell, they're going to have to beat
Clemson in order to win the ACC and get a
spot in the playoffs. They lose to Clemson, they're going
to be on the outside looking in. Yeah, there's only
one ACC team coming out, but RTT Lashley has done

(01:45:11):
a great job there and they've been able to supplement
through the transfers. They're spending money up there at SMU
as well, And here's show up. I don't know enough
about them, so I don't want to speak to about them,
but I know about the program and what the rumor
mail is. There are going to be a handful of
schools gary in the state of Texas that are going

(01:45:32):
to be able to go mono a mano with you
when it comes to the collective meaning paying players. Texas
A and M Texas Tech and SMU TCU probably could
throw some money around him. They probably could. But I
have been the I don't want to say rumors. I

(01:45:54):
don't think the rumors. I bet you SMU is ready
to stay with the big boys and ready to for
whatever it takes to get players to come play in Dallas. Well,
that's the whole reason they went to the ACC, I mean,
was to be able to have that chance. And that's
a good story right now. I mean, this is a
program that literally died, I mean that was completely disbanded
and had to rebuild, and they were awful afterwards. So

(01:46:18):
if you're an SMU fan, you're enjoying this right now.
This is kind of like when you of h went
to the Peach Bowl back in fourteen fifteen fifteen, But
it's so different now because if you don't have money,
like for instance, I'll be brutally honest. If the Cougars
need a quarterback change. Xeon Cris is a nice young man,

(01:46:38):
is a good athlete, good runner, but he's not a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
You just can't.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
The accuracy's not there. He doesn't have the deep, big arm.
The Cougars need a brand new quarterback. If the Houston
Cougars don't and their collective cannot have I don't know,
seven hundred and fifty million dollars to throw a quarterback,
we're not gonna get somebody that's gonna be better at
this point.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
I mean, I've given you who I think will end
up there. I know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
But you do have the money, and you're mentioning Connor
Reagman's name. Connor's gonna be able to go where he wants.
He's probably my get leave if you leave Texas a now.
And my guess is he's going to open up for
the highest bidder, as he should, I mean, because he
pretty much has only one more year at it. So
you want to be able to give yourself the best opportunity.

(01:47:24):
And I mean, you have h showed some good things
this year, but are they necessarily in position to compete
next year? Maybe regardless of whoever the quarterback is at Houston.
And this is every school that needs a quarterback, I
mean you have to you know how we have the
strange thing in the NFL with all the salary that
is salary cap that has spent on the quarterback. You're
kind of doing that in college now for the quarterback position.

(01:47:47):
You may have three or four million dollars to spend
on your collective for a particular football team for next
For that next year, you're probably giving a high rated
offensive lineman two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, maybe a
receiver five hundred. But this is crazy mean talking about this,
but you better have five hundred and seven to fifty
a million dollars if you want to go get a quarterback,
if you want a legitimate quarterback that can step on

(01:48:07):
the campus and play right away.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
But no guarante's gonna be in a.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
Good and this is gonna, you know, obviously sound ridiculous,
especially with the way the weekend went. But wasn't Ryan
Day that said if you want to be in position
to win a national title, you have to spend like
twelve thirteen million dollars a season. But it was Matt Rule,
that was the coach at Nebraska that said, it's going
to cost you a million and a half two million
dollars to get a quarterback. I mean, if you know what,
if you know what's expected, then I mean you can't

(01:48:33):
really be upset if you don't meet that point. I mean, look,
you know I was talking about Arizona State. You had
their coach after they beat BYU putting his shirt up
of saying donate to the collective, let's keep this thame going.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Yeah, Like, that's that's why the game you have to play.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Now, that's why you are seeing general managers, the term
general managers being used in college athletics now, because the
coach is handling the x's and o's, the coach is
handled practices and the strength and conditioning apartment, and the
food and the training facilities and when they work out
and how they travel. You got people handling all of

(01:49:10):
that now. But your points valid though. I mean, you
have to have a personnel department.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
But you have to have a personal apartment, and you
also have to have an apartment that's going to be
able to distribute the funds properly. Do you know who
the new general manager is of the Stanford Cardinal football program. Yeah,
Andrew freaking Luck, Colonel Andrew Luck with the neck beard.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
Yes, he is going there to handle everything except the
coaching position, which again to me means either this is
the new trend in college athletics where you need a
general manager to manage a salary cap, which is good
what it is, or they don't trust who is at
Stanford right now, who is a former Sacramento State coach

(01:49:49):
to run things. I would not want to have a
general manager be over me as a football coach, unless
unless I knew that person and all that person was
doing just making sure to enough money to be spent
on the players. It's also for Luck. I mean this
might be kind of a foray in two. Does he
want to get into that at the next level as well?
I mean, that's that's what I think is kind of

(01:50:10):
a true proving ground for him. And I think you're
going to start to see that too of NFL teams
who say, do I want to hire this GM who's
been at two different stops, or do I want to
give somebody who has maybe been a little bit more
open minded and more kind of I mean the amount
of information that is out there on the college level,
because it's not just the transfer portal, it's also the

(01:50:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
You're buying any buzz into this at all? To you?

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
I mean, you know I will if think it to Vegas,
me too. I'll be happy for you if that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
Means a lot, But generally speaking, any extra buzz for
you or just a typical NBA November game, no, because
it's not the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal is to
make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Okay, it seems fair.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
I mean, if you win it okay, cool. But aside
from that, it's not gonnay, it's not gonna make me
watch any more any less. I'm gonna watch regardless. Listen
to me very carefully. If any of you go to
Vegas and the Rockets are there, we should all hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
So when did you do? What was the party that
you did when you are thirty thousand?

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
Thankful I did that before the changing presidents because I
had a lost a lot of loss of followers because
people dropped off Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
M is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
But yeah, we should go to If anybody's going to Vegas,
it's gonna be cheap. Pre Christmas there's the time you
want to go to Vegas. The next three weeks will
be the time to go. My grandpa used to live
in Vegas, so we would almost yearly go see him
that week before Christmas because the rates were always really nice,
really good, and there's not a lot of people there.
The weather is perfect, it's in the sixties, very comfortable.

(01:53:23):
You can walk outside and I feel like you're gonna
dine in an oven.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Vegas is awesome year round. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
Oh, I'd go any time of the year. I've got
at least one trip planned next year, hopefully more than one.
But you know, get to pass it, get the kitchen passes.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
And then when when the A's get there.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
I mean that, if they ever do that, that needs
to be a yearly trip.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
I think I think it would be our ci responsibility
as a radio station for the home of the Astros
to be in Vegas for that first trip. Absolutely probably is.
Again they're gonna have They're still having lots of problems
getting that thing done financed. I don't understand why why
they're not playing there right now. It's Vegas. You can
you can basically build any venue, just build out a
periary stadium for the time. Well, they've got a triple

(01:54:02):
A stadium. But it's also nobody wants to play one
hundred and fifty degrees at first pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
That's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
Even if you played the games at eight o'clock Pacific
time would be eleven o'clock in the East and ten
o'clock in the Central time zone, they would say, no,
you can't play any day games too damn hot, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Dry heat though you're always at it's a try heat.
That's right. Steve is with us at twelve thirty seven
on seven on High Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
Steve, Oh no, Steve, are you there?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Give it like five more seconds. No, this just sounds good,
like this is a good conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
I'm hearing right now. I said, it's forty seconds ago.
Don't you tell them Connor to turn the radios down
when they call the show?

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Yes, and they don't listen to you ever do that?
That's right. It took fifty seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
Hello, yeah, yeah, okay, hold on, he's talking to us
fifty seconds ago.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Now he's thartly confused. They called the show. Yes, this
is an epic phone call.

Speaker 17 (01:55:27):
You guys, serve me on my cell phone.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Can you hear us? He's answering. He's literally talking to
his radio Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
How is your weekend? What'd you do for this weekend?
How is Thanksgiving? What side did you have.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
With your dinner? We'll find that out at twelve forty
All right, we've had enough for this. It's been a
good run, Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
So he's he's actually answering questions. He's just answering it
forty five seconds after we've asked him I guess we
took his call, but he wanted to talk about Texas v.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
Can't it we didn't really get an answer to his questions,
or is we didn't get a chance to get his thoughts? Well,
I mean, look, the good news is for Steve, if
we want to open the door back up for him,
is Gordy will be here in less than twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
That's true. You can break it down that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
I was going to say, we call it SEC this week.
Oh locked on SEC SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
So yeah, just a little note, if you ever call us,
take the bluetooth off, turn the radio. See he's he's
out on you. He thinks you just turned to tell
him to turn the bluetooth off. Did you tell him
to turn his radio completely off? I don't think it
worked out that way. I'm gonna you know what, Steve,
I'm not gonna blame you for that. I'm gonna blame
Connor for this mistake.

Speaker 6 (01:56:39):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
No, No, I'm gonna I'm gonna blame his car play.
His car play was not hooking up. So usually when
that happens, I mean, you have no choice that you know,
you're listening to the phone regardless which is the real
time I get you, by the way, shout out to
my Apple car play and shout out the series. She
is comprehending about ninety eight percent of what I'm saying, oh,

(01:57:00):
including my massive amounts of swear words to people I've
I don't do the speak to text as much anymore
for that reason. And it's also too that sometimes Siri
will clown you back, like I, well, was it I
spoke something and it was completely off, and I just go,
You're almost not even trying, are you?

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
You talk to your Siri.

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
I mean, not like full conversations, but like, okay, I'll
have like Schneid remarks for stuff like that. You know, well,
I always say what I'm in the cause Siri will
then say, you know that type of language is not
necessarily really oh yeah, and I use I use very
vulgar terms and she gets them every time. I'm very

(01:57:42):
proud of her for that. Oh it's like repeating it
back to you as what you're trying to do. So
I'll say hey, Sirien and she'll go yes, And I'll
say text this person and she goes, what do you
want to say? And I respond and I try to
get away as much as foul language as possible, and
she gets it about ninety eight percent of the time.
I've also had too lately where I'm getting the the
dreaded circle of of please try again later.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
Mmm.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
I hit that one, and I'm just like, what are
you taking a smoke break? Were you on a union job?
I don't know about.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
That's funny, that's funny. What do you get your daily fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:58:14):
Huge serious relationship is a lot more complicate, complicant than
mine is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
It's just not hard to understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Yeah, but maybe it's maybe it's your emotions that you're
Like when Gordy speaks sometimes he gets really high pitch
and anger, like, I'm gonna listen to you guys between
here and Hobby Airport. I'm how many times are gonna
raise his voice in forty minutes? Well, I mean, if
we get to the SEC, I'm sure that will happen.
It will absolutely happen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
No, We're we're definitely gonna talk about the Aggies, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Well seven one three two, one two five seven ninety
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all the espns during the break they're all showing the
hit on Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
As I said, it's only going to gain traction.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
There's gonna be pressure on the NFL to suspend him
for a game, especially when you have Adam Shefter basically
saying all we're waiting forward is the number of games,
which I again honestly just being trying to be as
objective as I can, this is deserving of a one
game suspension, nothing more than that, and maybe a fine.
I mean, I that's the thing is you're missing a

(01:59:11):
significant amount of money just from missing one game.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
So I mean, well, the one.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
Thing I think Dan that the average fan's not going
to care about as how much money a player loses.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
They're just not still money lost.

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
And usually the money that I want to be paid
to me, I want it to be paid to me.

Speaker 9 (01:59:26):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
But when somebody gets fined fifty thousand dollars to then
that's like six seven bucks to us. I mean, I
understand you know the difference in tax bracket here, but
it's also too at the same time, you want your money.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
You want him on the fields. What you want per indus, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
I mean, you see what your defense looks like with
him on the field as opposed to not being on
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
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I brought this up earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
The flag bit to me in college sports doesn't bother
me as much as it did the national pundits. For
you college football fans that are listening, did it? Was
it outrageous, as Gus Johnson and Joe Klatt mentioned on
Saturday that Michigan would try to plant their flag at

(02:00:15):
the Ohio State oh the fifty airline?

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Was it preposterous? Was it super unsportsman like or was
it just.

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
Two schools that despise each other. Now, the problem is
there were five other six other games that were doing
the same thing, and you put all of them in
a big ball and it makes it look like an
ugly situation.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
In college athletics.

Speaker 4 (02:00:37):
But at the time when it happened, Dan I was like,
this is why it's one of the most hated rivalries
in sports, and it's the greatest college football rivalry out there,
Ohio State VW Michigan. And if you want to plan
a flag because you beat them on their home turf,
At that time, I didn't have a huge problem with it,

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Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Craig Ackerman here.

Speaker 18 (02:02:28):
When I'm not calling Rockets basketball, I'm following at sports
RV on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (02:02:33):
You're listening to the Matt Thomas Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
Twelve fifty one Sports Talk seven ninety. Gordon's gonna step
in for the final hour of the show with Dan.
You guys will talk about Rockets. Ecuse excuse me, Dave.
All right, Dave, it's again an alter ego. Apparently you
know mine alter ego is don't you no? I don't
please turn Buckle Tom Turner. When I was a young

(02:03:05):
broadcaster getting into the business, I didn't want to have
my real name out of these wrestling reports I would
used to do on these little telephone things. You'd call
up like the info line at six five five, one thousand,
and you could for pro wrestling news. You hit one
and it'd be hid this to Turnbuckle, Tom Turner with
today's wrestling update. Okay, I've told it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:03:23):
Before eighties and nineties wrestling the creme, the promos cut
just everything, it made it what it was. All right,
let's try Stephen Houston again. Hi, Steve, what's going on?

Speaker 17 (02:03:36):
Hey, guys, how are you much better?

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Much better? What's on your mind in real time? Steve?

Speaker 17 (02:03:40):
Are you to have a face for radio?

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
But what do you guys think we'll go with it?

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:03:47):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Why not? I mean yeah, I'd have to ask your wife.
But that's fine.

Speaker 17 (02:03:51):
Oh she thinks I'm handsome.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
She's right, she really is. There you go.

Speaker 17 (02:03:56):
You know you're asking about the flag planning thing. I mean, yeah,
if you do it, you're gonna get a reaction unless
people get smart enough not to react. It's like the
horns down thing, right, Yeah, I really know about horns
down anymore. But if you looked at like if you
watch the game against A and M, you know they
have their own hand signal in College Station, you wouldn't

(02:04:16):
know it because they all do horns down. Nobody does
gig them anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:04:20):
You know what, it's funny for a Texas fan. For
a Texas fan, Steven probably like, why are you so
worried about us when it's your own program you should
be boasting about? Would be my guest's act. That's how
I think Texas fans would interpret it exactly. And look
at their fight song.

Speaker 17 (02:04:38):
I mean, we have a reference to A and M
in our fight song, but I mean half of their
fight song is about goodbye to Texas University, goodbye to
the Orange and the White saw Varsity's horns off. But anyway,
I'm I'm I'm not an Aggie hater. I lived in
College Station year and a half. It's a great place
and that's some wonderful people there. I am really glad
that Texas won. I think it was critical that you

(02:04:59):
win that last game twelve years ago, and that you
win the first game coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
I can I could stand.

Speaker 17 (02:05:04):
A few losses now, really, but what do you think
about Texas Georgia.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
I think Texas wins a football game. Thanks to you
for the phone call. I got a much better reception
than from me there.

Speaker 4 (02:05:13):
I think the first of fall I was and again
I didn't see all the second half because I was
busy with the U of hbo AIU game. That defensive
line was nothing but a list of grown men out there.
Aggie offense could get nothing going. There was no pass protection,
no running game to speak of. They flattened the Aggie's
offense for four quarters. They're looking like the no offensive

(02:05:35):
touchdown score period. They're looking like the Texas program in
terms of recruiting that was there from two thousand and
four to two thousand and nine, Like where there are
legitimate NFL players, future NFL players on that roster? Now
where after that you struggled to be able to regain
that for some time. And look, I'll give credit where
credits due. You pardoned Daniel Holgerson earlier.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
Holgerson had kind of a similar answer last year when
asked about the loss to TCU in their first Big
twelve game, and he was like, we're in the big
time now, you know, it's going to take time to
build this up. And my response was where have you been, Like,
have you not been recruiting to that? Have you not
been selling Hey, you know, wear it for a year
or two in the American but then you come here

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for an opportunity to be able to play major power
five football, and that's what you try to build up to.
It takes effort to be able to do that. But
I mean, kudos does need to go to Texas for
being able to get into the SEC their first year.
Did they play the toughest schedule, No, they did not,
but they were able to win at least and be
one of the top two teams to get to Atlanta

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for the SEC championship game. And A and M's never
been able to say that really outside of a couple
of years, they never even sniffed the opportunity to get
to Atlanta. And I know the response is going to be, well,
we had we had Alabama in front of us. Teams
got to Atlanta that were not named Alabama. LSU got there.
Why aren't you better than them? Auburn got there? Same deal.

(02:07:01):
So I mean it's been thirteen years, Like what have
you been building up for? What have you been trying
to get to as a program other than perennially being
at best an eight and four program, And I know
that that's not what they want. But when I say
things like that and people get upset with me, I'm like,
you need to be more upset with your program, then
you're not upset with me, because you know, I even

(02:07:24):
had somebody come back at me, well you know, oh
you know LSU.

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
You know we beat LSU. Okay, fine, I get all
of that.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
LSU fired a national championship coach two years after they
got there. You're not in their stratosphere. And selfishly with
an Aggie, I want them to be successful. I've spent
a lot of money there, my son goes there, my
family's all big Aggie fans.

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
They've got everything in place. I think I think Elko
is gonna be a really good football coach to them.

Speaker 4 (02:07:49):
I thought the Jimbo hire many moons ago was a
good higher because he did have sustained success at Florida Stake,
which isn't easy because it was when it was not
with players named Dalvin Cook and Jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (02:07:59):
But I mean that that.

Speaker 4 (02:08:00):
You could say that with anybody. You guy said with anybody.
I mean, he got them there, did he not? They
got to the College Football Playoff and everyone they got
to the BCS and they did win. But it's also though, too,
did you sustain that? And he didn't necessarily do that?
And that's why I think hindsight, obviously you're kind of
looking at it as saying, Wow, you woefully overpaid for

(02:08:22):
a coach that was not worth that money.

Speaker 2 (02:08:24):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (02:08:25):
It was applauded at the time it happened, and it applauded.
It was applauded because he was the number one free
agent coach out there. He obviously did not want to
be at Florida State and he went to an A
and M program where the facilities were good and now great.
There's nothing that's precluding A and M from being ridiculous success,
successful for the long term and firm recruiting base, more
money than god, full stadium, huge support, lots of scholarship,

(02:08:48):
lots of nil money, no more excuses under any circumstance.
How A and M can't be as good as competitive
as Auburn or anybody else in the SEC is flat
out misinformation.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
And people say there's something that's holding them back. There's
nothing holding him back, Matt. It's malfeasance.

Speaker 4 (02:09:02):
I mean there there is zero reason why they should
not be a program that is, at worst a nine
to three program ten and two where you can you
don't even have to go two hours outside of college
station to be able to recruit most of your roster.
Here isn't even a question though, Dan, Ten years ago
it was a question of how long how far a
you into recruit. It's a question of how much cash

(02:09:22):
you have, n A and M's flush with it even
by paying Jimbo out. All right, Dan, thank you Rinch
for hanging in with me today. I'm gonna take off
for the airport. I will see you, talk to you
tomorrow from Sacramento. Yes, we'll have Got Feelings as part
of the show tomorrow plus NFL rewind and up next,
Gordon's gonna have to come in here and really yell
at the top of his lungs about how three SEC
schools should absolutely be in the college football fire.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
I'll fire him up. Well, I'll get him there.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
Texans recap too, right, Oh, Rockets big win against Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
You have fifty eight Sports Talk seven eighty.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
Lunchtimers. This is the Matt Thomas Show, one.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
O'clock yallery here on the Matt Tama Show with Ross.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
Nope, this voice is not Matt.

Speaker 4 (02:10:03):
Matt exiting stage right, heading over to the airport and
then heading out with the team to Sacramento Rockets and
Kings tomorrow night. As the Rockets a huge win last night.
We get into that a little bit here in this hour.
But Chris Gordy gonna be hopping on with us here
in a few minutes. Connor Dy McGovern of course behind

(02:10:24):
the board, making us sound good, stay on the air,
all those different types of things. So appreciate him always.
If you want to jump aboard for anything that we
have covered today, I mean, let's see what have we covered.
We've covered obviously the Texans winning yesterday. That's nice, twenty
three to twenty. Maybe some frustrating parts of the game

(02:10:44):
where I mean, don't you kind of find it funny
that this Texans team this year is mirroring kind of
the way the Astros were across the board, where yesterday
it would be a kin to the Astros hit, but
then the pitching kind of faltered a little bit later
in the game. So that's the Texans defense where I
get it as ez Alscheier gets ejected and you have

(02:11:07):
to kind of retool your defensive captain on the field,
all those different types of things of trying to adjust
to that, and the Texans were able to do it
enough to be able to get the win. But still,
I mean, it's one of those things. I know, I
repeat myself a ton, but that final offensive drive for
the Jags, I'm just like, you cannot let mac Jones

(02:11:27):
get in the end zone. You cannot let it. And
then another completion, another first down, and you're just like,
oh my god, do not let this become a three
point game, which, by the way, Connor de McGovern the
point spread for the game yesterday was Texans three and
a half. So they get into the end zone and
the Texans still up by five. You're like, okay, hey,

(02:11:47):
you know, make sure they don't get this two point here,
run out the time you cover. Then they get the
two point conversion and that hook. You know, Blues Traveler
told us the hook will always get you, and the
hook got you yesterday.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
I took Texans minus three and a half, so there
you go for that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:03):
But I mean, obviously a huge topic of conversation today
and I know some of you have waited on it
if you want to continue to do so. The Alshai
are ejection from the game, I mean, you know, you've
had it go across the board of you know, just
the absolute hand ringing from everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
There's no place for that in the game. And you know,
suspend him.

Speaker 4 (02:12:24):
I mean I even saw somebody throw out that he
should be suspended for as long as Trevor Lawrence is out, which,
by the way, Lawrence has gone on Twitter too as
well and has started to react to yesterday's event. I mean,
I know that there was video also to surfacing of
Lawrence leaving the building. But yes, thank you to everyone

(02:12:46):
who reached out and praying for me. I'm home and
feeling better. Means a lot, thank you all. So we'll
see how long Trevor Lawrence is going to be out
from the hit from Alshai Air. But I mean, you know,
it's one of those things that if you just think
that it's the dirtiest of all dirty football plays, then
you have not been watching football long enough, because plays

(02:13:08):
like this will happen time and time again, and it's
gonna have the same reaction every single time is that
you know there's no place for that in the game,
and you know you've tried to legislate hits like this
out of the game and try to make sure that
you know you don't have the potential for things like
this to happen. It's still a fast, physical game. It's
still a game played by some of the most athletic

(02:13:31):
people on the planet, and sometimes in the heat of competition,
things like this will happen.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
Suspension, sure, fine, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
But to act like that this is just an disease
alshaire thing, I just think as being incredibly disingenuous. I
just I don't think that it is a just a
you know, he's a dirty player and that he is
out there with the intent of injuring players.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (02:13:56):
He's out there trying to make a play for his team.
And did he maybe get outside of technique and everything
that you want to have on a play like that,
Sure did. But zact like you know he's going out
there stomping on players and intentionally injuring players. I just
don't see that being the case. And I understand too.
Like I said, there's the video of the hit on

(02:14:17):
Caleb Williams and then a little bit of a dust
up that he had on the Bear sidelines during Sunday
Night Football, talked about to somebody else, shared the video
of him with Tom Brady either last year a couple
of years ago. And I mean, if you want to
search for, you know, examples that are going to be
able to validate your point, then absolutely you will search

(02:14:39):
and you'll share them and try to say so he's
a dirty player. But I don't intentionally believe that Azizy
a'll share is a dirty player. I think he had
a very overly aggressive play that was handled at least
with him the right way of yeah, hey, man, like
we can't have that you on for the day. And

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then you know the rest of what happened. I mean,
did the officials do enough to be able to stop
it from spiraling out of control of a brawl and
everything else of the sort, and you know how they
handled it with offsetting penalties, that's another topic for discussion,
but in terms of you know, just how it was
handled with him, they did it the right way. It
was a play that warranted in an ejection, throw him

(02:15:23):
out of the game, get him out of there, and
of course emotions are going to continue to rise with
this of you know, people again wanting the call for
the most you know, aggressive punishment possible of you know he,
I mean like I even saw somebody else saying that
he should be banished from the game. Well, if that's
the case, then you're not going to have a league
because again, if you think that this is the last

(02:15:44):
time that a play like this is going to happen,
you're going to be sadly mistaken. Because think about it
this way. Anybody that's ever played the game, you know
that the way that you want to play defensive football
is that you want to be as thoughtless as possible.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
You want to be able to read and react.

Speaker 4 (02:16:03):
And if you're out there thinking, oh man, you know,
I you know, how am I going to position myself here,
then you're putting yourself at risk of injury, and you're
putting you know, even the other player at risk of
injury because you tense up. You you're not playing freely,
You're not playing again with you know, just the the
the thought process of hey, you know, how do I

(02:16:24):
see this, How do I react to this?

Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
How you know, how should I go about it?

Speaker 4 (02:16:27):
All of those different things it's paralysis by analysis and
that can lead to more injuries. And it was an
unfortunate play and it was one that you don't coach.
You don't want it to be a part of your team.
But also too as well. I mean, I think the
way that c J. Stroud and Demiko Ryans handled it
after the game was absolutely the correct way to handle it.

(02:16:48):
Of we're going to support our guy, We're going to
back our guy. But it's also too as part of coaching.
You know, I've said the saying before, you're either coaching
it or you're allowing it to happen. I have to
believe that Demiko Ryan's probably even himself sits down with
dizz Al Shayer and just says, hey, like, that's not
the way that we play the game. You know, that's
that's not how we want to play aggressive football. And

(02:17:11):
you know, you hear the swarm and all those different
things that the Texans throw out, but you address it,
you move on, You wait for whatever the punishment is
and it's done.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
It's over and done with.

Speaker 4 (02:17:21):
And in the age of social media, of course, everybody
wants to be the first to be outraged. Everybody wants
to be the first to be on the right side
of history. How many times we heard that all throughout
the years. And it's also too at times where it's
you don't have to have an opinion for every single thing,
all right, You can kind of let some things go.
You can take a pitch every once in a while.

(02:17:42):
Trust me, I think you're gonna be okay. I don't
think that people are gonna look at your timeline and say, oh, well,
you didn't condemn it, you know al Shayer after that play.
If they are, then they've got other things that they
need to worry about in their life. So that's the
other part of all of this too as well. It's
not the worst thing that's ever happened, and Lawrence for
all intents and purposes, sounds like it's going to be fine.

(02:18:04):
But it is also too where you have to let
the league decide whatever punishment is correct. And if you're
the Texans, I think you kind of look at it as, hey,
whatever they hand down, we got to respect, we've got
to go with and we've got to move on from there.
And it sounds like that's what they're going to do.
So Texans get the win yesterday, They've got the bye
week coming up this week, then you get the Miami

(02:18:24):
Dolphins in town at the Sunday after next as well.
Also too at that time, know who's going to be
the twelve teams in the college football Playoff.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
A and M sorry not gonna be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:36):
But Texas probably with that win last weekend, absolutely stamped
their their ticket to be able to be one of
the final twelve teams at the end of the season.
Now at the same time though, too, if you went
on Saturday, then for sure they're one of the four
teams they get to wait and don't have to be

(02:18:56):
part of the five through twelve that's going to be
trying to be to make it on to the next round.
So they're going to try to do that sweek in
against Georgia and Atlanta at the SEC Championship Game. First
year Texas and the SEC first year of being able
to make it there as So we had a caller
earlier to point out that SMU with a chance to
be able to get in. So we'll get into a

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lot of college football too as well, because I mean,
you know, I understand that it's not necessarily the biggest
topic of conversation front of mind from any of you
out there, but also too, I mean, when you got
a program like Texas that is in position to be
able to make it to the College Football Playoff and
have a chance to play for a national title this year,

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it enters into the conversation. But you know, we'll, you know,
kind of get into that as Gordy gets in here
in a few minutes, you know, I mean, Connor, I
think most people know this that Gordy's big boss man
here at Sports Talk seven ninety, so he had to
do big boss man things for a second.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
So we'll get him involved.

Speaker 4 (02:19:59):
If we want to hop aboard with some Rockets conversation
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jump aboard here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross
Dan Matthews in for both at the moment. Gordy would
be in here in a second, but someone three two
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do want to continue the Texans conversation on the other side,
because for all of the things that I've said about
this one member of the Texans organization yesterday, I thought
they stepped up. We'll talk about him on the other side.
And again if you want to jump aboard too, So
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Again it's Dan Matthews in for Matt and Ross. This
is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (02:20:49):
Matt Thomas returns on Sports Talk seven ninety, right, it is.

Speaker 4 (02:20:57):
The Matt Thomas Show. Dan Matthews in for both Matt
and Ross. Ross back on Wednesday. Matt back with me tomorrow,
So we've got four hours of Matt Thomas again on
his way to hop on the airplane to head out
to Sacramento with the Rockets. Rockets back on the floor

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again tomorrow night final NBA Cup Group play game against
the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 2 (02:21:24):
Already know they're into the knockout round.

Speaker 4 (02:21:26):
Guess it's just to see where indeed they are in
the knockout round. So we will find that out tomorrow night.
Flowers to Bobby Slowick for yesterday. I mean, what has
been the biggest issue for Bobby Slowick. It has been
just really inconsistent results all season long, and I mean
inconsistency either through play calls that have just absolutely fallen

(02:21:50):
flat on their face, or also too, you don't have
one of the most important parts of your offense for
a good month and a half of the season, Nico Collins.
But he was able to be out there yesterday. But
I thought, all in all, I mean, if the Texans
had gone on to lose that game yesterday, I know
that you would have still probably had the people with
the pitchforks and the torches out there to fire Bobby Slowick.

(02:22:13):
But I didn't come away from that game yesterday saying, oh,
this one's on Bobby Slowick. Now, there have been times
this year where I absolutely have said that. I mean
the Titans game last week that was on Bobby Slowick,
second half against Detroit, same deal, the Jets game. All
the above, and also two for those games you did
not well. Last week you did have Nico Collins, but

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for the other two you did not have him out there.
But yesterday, you're able to get into the end zone
twice in the second half where you get a third
quarter touchdown from Joe Mixon, you get the touchdown passed
Dalton Schultz, and balance across the board twenty five runs
to thirty four passes in the game last night. So
I think you look at that performance and say, that's

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pretty much what you want this Texans team to be.
You do trust Jill mix but you don't want to
use Joe Mixon overly too much. And able to get
him twenty rushes in the game and also to you
threw the ball to him six times, caught it four times,
so twenty four total touches in the game for Mixing,
so you're able to have him help out in that regard.

(02:23:21):
But I mean, he's somebody that's been kind of a
closer for them this season, and that was on that
final drive where again I get it, it's a trained response.
You go into that after the touchdown and the two
point by Jacksonville to be able to pull it within
three that you're like, all right, we've got a little
over two minutes here, two minute warning. You want them

(02:23:42):
to be able to burn their timeouts, which I think
they had burned. They had one remaining if I'm not mistaken,
but still able to get a crucial first down to
be able to ice it away.

Speaker 2 (02:23:55):
And that's what Texan's able to do. Able to kneel down.

Speaker 4 (02:23:58):
But you know, a talk about the balance that they
had offensively yesterday also too as well. I think if
nothing else, slow It's real issue this season has been
kind of overthinking it, and I think once he got
into crucial parts of the game yesterday, said all right,
how do we simplify this thing right here? Like, like,
how do we how do we you know, make this
thing go the way that we hope Number twelve yep,

(02:24:21):
let's involve him in the game. Let's put the ball
number seven's hands. Well, it goes there every single time
unless you run a wildcat player or something like that,
which I'm glad that they didn't, you know, try to
break out the gimmicks too much in the game, because
that's been another thing too, is kind of that you know,
just real, you know, just overthinking it that Slowik has

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had at times this season of well, you know, let's
have a trick play to get us going. You haven't
even been doing the basic things right, So why are
we trying to get exotic with this thing when you
can't even necessarily have guys lined up properly, Which some
of that's on the players, but though too, I mean,
where you're screwing up the most basic parts of your

(02:25:04):
offense that then you want to try to get exotic
with this thing and confuse this thing even more.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
No, don't do that. So I do applaud him for that.

Speaker 4 (02:25:12):
Of again, whenever you're in a situation where it's you know,
kind of the tension is there, the pressure is there,
what is the you know, normally human response that people have,
they try to do too much. But people who are
rationally minded and people who look for solutions in situations

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like that, they say, Okay, how do I make this
thing even simpler? How do I slow this thing down
for me? How do I give myself an opportunity to
be successful here? And that's what he decided to do,
and that's why they were able to pull off the
win that they did yesterday, and the offense was able
to be what we'd hope they would be. And I
get it too, like I said, on the defensive side,

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where you don't really get a ton of pressure on
the opposed quarterback in the game yesterday, and it wasn't
necessarily as a stronger performance by the defense as you
would like to have, but you're still able to get
an interception Derek Stingly, nice little one from him, nice
little run back to thirty one yards out of him.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
But all in all, though, I mean, you.

Speaker 4 (02:26:17):
Know, third down yesterday, you're five to thirteen, you go
for it on fourth down once and you're able to
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:26:22):
So that was nice.

Speaker 4 (02:26:24):
But you know, Gordy, I mean I came away from
yesterday's game of you know, thinking about the way that
this Texans offense played, and I said.

Speaker 2 (02:26:32):
Hey, you know what, for one week, Bobby Slowick, I'm
not going.

Speaker 4 (02:26:34):
To crush you. You actually put together a pretty decent
game plan. You simplified it when it mattered the most,
and you were able to be the reason why you
won this game.

Speaker 2 (02:26:44):
Were they really the reason they won the game? Though?

Speaker 4 (02:26:47):
Well, I mean yeah, especially when you give up that
touchdown late to mac Jones. It's not the defense. They're
not the ones holding up their endo the bargain at
the end of the game, because if it's them, you
salt that game away. You don't let him get to
the end zone and you don't give up that two
point conversion.

Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
I agree with you at twenty three to six.

Speaker 18 (02:27:06):
Yeah, it's twenty three to six with what the start
of the fourth quarter, And yeah, I mean you should
not give up this plays to make it any bit closer,
But I mean, I just go back to it was
six to three at halftime. This is a terrible Jacksonville team,
Like why were you not able to put up more
points than that first half?

Speaker 2 (02:27:25):
Punt punt, field goal, field goal and a half, I mean,
and then the three and out starts second half.

Speaker 18 (02:27:32):
Yeah, I just you know, I've heard some national people say,
you know, we talked about it for the season, sophomore
slump potentially for c J.

Speaker 2 (02:27:39):
Stroud.

Speaker 18 (02:27:40):
It just does not feel cohesive. And yes that it
has hurt you since you've lost to Fon Diggs. Nico
Collins is still awesome. But I don't know, man, I
just like last year it was like Us against the
world with c J.

Speaker 2 (02:27:54):
Stroud, Like, give me Stroud.

Speaker 18 (02:27:56):
I know he's gonna win this game for us, and
he's one of the best quarter in the NFL as
a rookie. This year, I don't know, like the confidence
level in Stroud. Hey, this guy, he's gonna go win
us every big game. I just it's not there this year.

Speaker 4 (02:28:11):
Well, I think that a lot of that is also
to the sum of the parts around him. I mean,
I think that that has kind of entered in the equation,
but I mean offensively yesterday, the offensive line probably having
one of their better performances that they've had in recent weeks,
where you only allow for a couple of sacks in
the game, they do hit CJ three times in the

(02:28:32):
game yesterday, so able to keep those off of him
as much as possible. Joe Mixon running the way that
he did. But that was also to what I was
talking about with the kudos that I gave Slowik after
a little bit of a slow start in the third quarter,
where you come out of the come out of the half,
you get the ball first, you go three and out,
and you're just kind of like, man, it's going to

(02:28:52):
continue to be one of those days in it. But
he simplified it down to, all right, who can make
plays for us?

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
Number twelve can?

Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
We know number twenty eight can, and we know that
if we allow him to that number seven can as well.
And they were able to do that and that was
the difference. That's how they won the game.

Speaker 18 (02:29:10):
It just feels like those early season games like the
one that gets Jacksonville back in Week four where you
won by four, you know they'll beat in Chicago by six,
being the Colts by two. I mean, it just feels like,
you know, where's this dominant Texans team we're supposed to
see this year?

Speaker 4 (02:29:26):
But it's also too and I get why Kansas City
gets the benefit of the doubt, but I mean, you
look at the Chiefs are winning games the same way.
But again, you win a couple of back to back
Super Bowls, that's going to have people saying, see, they
find a way to win. I mean the Texans eight
times this year, six times this year, they found a

(02:29:46):
way to win. So I do think that credit needs
to be given to them for not finding a way
to lose those games, because otherwise we're not talking about
a team that's in first place.

Speaker 18 (02:29:55):
I agree, But Denver Broncos will get a win tonight.
They'll be eight and five. The Ravens are eight and five.
You're eight and five. The Chargers actually move ahead of
you at eight and four. Pittsburgh is looking like a
legitimate force at nine to three. Bill's ten and two,
Chiefs eleven and one. I mean, this is not where
we thought. I did not expect to see the Texans

(02:30:17):
sitting here with several teams ahead of them, Like I Okay,
the Ravens, you want to say they were underachieving a
little bit, sure, but like to have them in this
collective grouping of the Denver Broncos and the Los Angeles
Chargers and behind the Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
Steelers, like it's not where where they're supposed.

Speaker 4 (02:30:35):
To be, because it's almost kind of a you're stuck
in neutral here, like you were supposed to be past
the getting in as a division winning wild card weekend team.
You wanted to be able to be one of the
top two teams and be able to skip that weekend,
get a home game for the divisional round, which you've
never had, and be able to take it from there,

(02:30:56):
And it just seems like that it's not going to
be the case.

Speaker 2 (02:30:59):
But it's also though too.

Speaker 4 (02:31:01):
I mean, I'm curious to see what this team looks
like coming out of a bye week of actually being
able to probably do enough self scouting to say, all right,
why are we making these mistakes? How can we correct
these mistakes? And the final month of the season is
going to tell you a ton of does this team
have a push to be able to get into the
postseason and be able to get past the divisional round?

Speaker 18 (02:31:21):
This is your toughest stretch of the season, the cop
and again, you better be ready because if you're not,
I mean, you lose to the Dolphins, you lose to
the Chiefs, you lose to the Orioles. I mean you're
literally going into the game against Tennessee. Maybe maybe the
Colts are if snuck up and are fighting for the division.

Speaker 4 (02:31:39):
At that point, magic number now down the two, and
the Colts do have a little bit of an easier
path to finish up their season. They've got I believe
both Tennessee and Jacksonville still left to go, but you've
also got games against the Broncos as well as you
got to go across the country, well actually in their case,

(02:32:00):
across the country. But you take on a Giants team
that's pretty much done. I mean they showed you that
on Thanksgiving Day. But I mean outside of this coming
up game against Denver, I mean, that's an easier path
for them to be able to try to run the
table and maybe try to catch you too as well.

Speaker 18 (02:32:17):
It's just I thought they I thought they'd be sitting
there with nine, maybe even ten wins.

Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
At this point.

Speaker 4 (02:32:24):
There's a couple of games you can go back and
look at and say, yeah that that should have been
the case, but unfortunately you are where you are and
the Texans are eight and five on this season. All right,
coming up next, since Gordy's here, we got we gotta
react to the college football weekend. That was tons of
fun angering people on social media. Well I was, and
I think you were too, So we'll get into that

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too as well. If you want to hop a board,
you can do so. Someone three two one two five
seven ninety. Once again that subone three two one two
five seven nine zero. Dan Matthews, he's Chris Gordy. We're
in for Matt and Ross. This is the Matt Tomas
Show of Ross Sports Talks ninety. It is the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross, both of the key parts of

(02:33:09):
the show. The one constant is Connerdy McGovern. He's still here,
but Matt on his way to Sacramento and Ross back
on Wednesday, so we will have a lot to catch
up with Ross when he comes back on Wednesday. Again,
Dann Matthews here, Chris Gordy, here with you for less

(02:33:30):
than thirty minutes or so for the A team hits
the air at two. Rivalry Weekend Gordy did not disappoint.
It was a ton of fun just from not only
the Texas and Texas A and M perspective, but also
too for you know, Ohio State Michigan that one. I mean,
you got a fan base that's feeling it right now.

(02:33:53):
A buddy of mine that was there, I asked him,
I go, were there fire day chants where they're all
of this? He said, yeah, no, there were, but he
did say that a solution was being thrown out by
fans as they were leaving Ohio Stadium, Mike Vrabel, chance
of Vrabel, we're starting there. Of I mean, you lose

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for the fourth straight year, and I mean that was
just torture for Ohio State fans to watch that game,
and you're just kind of like, all right, when do
you guys finally break out here? Like maybe you don't
cover the nineteen and a half, but you're going to
finally score a touchdown. Then you'll score another one and
you'll kind of remind Michigan like, hey, you've gotten us
the last few years, but you're not getting us this year.

Speaker 2 (02:34:35):
It never came.

Speaker 18 (02:34:37):
Yeah, it's uh, it's crazy. I mean, you know, this
was one like Okay, Rie Day's lost the Michigan. The
Michigan game the last handful of years, but that's when
Michigan was at its peak and you had Jim Harbaugh
and all that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:50):
You were, what three touchdown favorites or.

Speaker 18 (02:34:52):
Something something stupid And for you to find yourself in
a game like that, and you spent all this money
at a gill get well, howarding the offseason the transfer
quarterback for Kansas State and your offense can't do anything
guesst Michigan. You're at home. You scored ten points at home,
Like that's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:35:11):
But I'll tell you this. I was Saturday morning.

Speaker 18 (02:35:12):
I was placing my bets and I was like, why
is Michigan such a heavy under like huge underdog. I'm like,
it's a rivalry game. I thought they could probably keep
it close after some chuckles on them, and it paid off.

Speaker 3 (02:35:25):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:35:25):
I mean, it was nineteen and a half and I
think it got that like all the way down to
like twenty two, didn't it. So the sharp money was
coming in on Ohio State. But it was also though too.
I Mean you just kind of like felt like they
were in position to finally take that next step and
be able to get further than CJ. Stroud and those
teams did back when Marvin Harrison Junior was there and

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they got to the you know, college football playoff one
year and should have beaten Georgia in that game but
did not.

Speaker 2 (02:35:52):
But I mean for the fourth straight year.

Speaker 4 (02:35:54):
I mean there's reasons that coaches get fired, and one
of them is if you don't win that game. Like,
I mean, look at it from you know, all the
coaches all the years that got fired for not being
able to beat Alabama, and that was programs who were
trying to say, hey, we have to be able to
mimic what they're able to do with their physicality and
the way they recruit and the way that they just

(02:36:14):
sustained success all throughout. And really there's a reason why
they were the only ones who were able to do
it consistently year in and year out. But I mean
that's something that they've not been able to do now
for A and M and for Texas.

Speaker 18 (02:36:28):
Wait real quick, verbel Like, it's so funny how our
perspective changes on a guy like after Like, it's the
best thing you could do as a failed football coach
is go do TV for a year or just go
sit out for a year, because suddenly you become a
hakamandie just by being out of the game, because we
forget all your flaws and we remember the good times.

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
Well, it's like an.

Speaker 18 (02:36:47):
X You're like when you've been separated for a while,
you start remembering all the good times. You don't remember
the reason why you broke up and all the bad
things about him. Oh, you remember the good times. But
like Rabel, Okay, he had two good years in Tennessee.
The last two years were debacles seven and ten, six
and eleven. It's not like the AFC South with some
juggernaut conference that you couldn't compete in. And I know

(02:37:10):
he was an assistant coach at Ohio State before before
he became the head coach, you know, jumped to the NFL.
But like, I don't know, is that the guy who's
really gonna lead a The problem with becoming a college
coach now is it's not just x's and o's. It's
not just can you be a good leader, it's nil.
It's you know, recruiting, transfer, portal, all this other stuff

(02:37:34):
you got to be really good at.

Speaker 4 (02:37:35):
And then having to re recruit your guys every single season.
I mean, that's the reason why you're seeing coaches who
are leaving the college game instead of getting into the
college game. But I think that it's more or less
that they just they perceive that the program under Ryan
Day lacks physical toughness and defensively what we saw, they

(02:37:55):
were not the reason that they lost that game. It
was the quarterback was terrible. The offensive play calling was
just awful. I mean it was one of those where
it was like, are you trying to intentionally go away
from your best receiving options here or are you just
being so stubborn into thinking, Oh, eventually we're gonna're we're
gonna break down this brick wall, we'll be able to

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run the football, And aside from a couple of runs
in that game, they really couldn't. And it was just like,
how do you continuously just go out there and bash
your head against the wall. But enough on them A
and M Texas Texas getting into the SEC championship game
in their first year of existence. I get it, they
didn't play anybody. All of those different things, soft SEC schedule, fine, whatever,

(02:38:39):
But for the Aggies after the game on Saturday night,
I threw this out on social media. So Aggie's why
is Texas more prepared for the SEC than you have been?

Speaker 2 (02:38:49):
And I got this last part wrong. It's thirteen.

Speaker 4 (02:38:51):
But I said for the last eleven years, where you've
been in the SEC, now since twenty twelve, and you
haven't gotten to the SEC championship game. I followed up,
I twisted the knife a little bit, if you will, Seriously,
I'm done hearing from Aggie's You're an incredibly embarrassing program.
You should be perennially better than programs like LSU, yet
you are not stop talking, bleep, You're an embarrassment.

Speaker 18 (02:39:16):
I think embarrassment is a bit of a stretch. I mean,
you would have say they're not as good as a
program as LSU. They beat LSU this year, so there's that.
But yeah, I mean we thought the Aggies, with all
the resources and all the money that they had, that
they would have at least gotten to Atlanta once at
least won the SEC. What now, Look, they came into

(02:39:37):
the SEC in an awful time when Nick Saban was
dominating and doing his thing. LSU jumped up with the
Joe Burrow year. He had Auburn. You know, he's had
a year or two there, here, there, and then Lane
Kiffin doing what he did at Ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (02:39:50):
So it was a it was.

Speaker 18 (02:39:51):
A tough It's been a tough fourteen years in the
conference for the Aggies. But yeah, you would have thought
once even that COVID year where they were they nine
and one or whatever, still lost to Bama or and.

Speaker 4 (02:40:03):
Then you still have Jimbo Fisher complaining about how we
need to expand the playoff. No, you need to be
able to win the game. You need to be able
to win, get to Atlanta, play in the SEC Championship game,
and be one of the final four teams at the
end of the season.

Speaker 18 (02:40:14):
But you're looking at it as a glass half empty.
I would spin it to a glass half full. Mike Elko.
I mean expectations coming this year were I said, maybe
go seven to five, eight and four at best. Would
they go eight and four? I think that's on the
high end. Now, granted, you know it sucks to loose
to your bitter rival that you been waiting for.

Speaker 2 (02:40:34):
This game.

Speaker 18 (02:40:34):
By the way, the game was awesome, like the atmosphere,
the lead up, everything.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
I think the Aggie faithfull showed up.

Speaker 12 (02:40:40):
Now.

Speaker 18 (02:40:40):
I did hear from two people who said it wasn't
as loud as they thought it would be in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:40:45):
I chucked that up a little bit to cost, Like peep.

Speaker 18 (02:40:47):
The country club. You're gonna put a country club plark
price on it. You're gonna get a country crub club crowd.
You're gonna get the rich people who don't like to yell.
They like to sit on their hands and clap politely,
like the blaue callers who can't afford it. Those are
the ones who would sit there and screen their heads
off the whole time. And all that I did think
it was weird. Every time they cut to the crowd,

(02:41:09):
I saw nothing but core members, Like to the point
where I'm like, if I've watched this game for the
first time, I would go, is A and M just
a military school?

Speaker 2 (02:41:16):
Like?

Speaker 18 (02:41:16):
Is everybody is this like Army, Navy, A and M?
Because everyone was in uniform?

Speaker 2 (02:41:21):
Where are the casuals? Where were the people like us
just wearing maroon and white?

Speaker 4 (02:41:26):
And then if I could give one piece of advice,
and I know this is going to fire up Aggie
fans maybe, like you know, with the comedy scene in
Austin now has started to rise a little bit can
we maybe send next year's crop of yell leaders to
go meet with a couple of comedians and up there
up their material for Midnight Yell.

Speaker 2 (02:41:47):
It's getting worse and worse.

Speaker 18 (02:41:48):
Man Like, I'm all for traditions, but sometimes some traditions
are made to die.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Some people just should not be on the mic or
just just adapt.

Speaker 18 (02:41:57):
You can still do Midnight Yell without chuckles the clown
Comedy Hour.

Speaker 4 (02:42:02):
I mean, And that's the thing like where it's just like,
you know, you can tell me about ol Rock the
Good Agg. I'm good with ol Rock the Good Agg.
But you know it's just also though too, it's like
soon enough, like is there nobody with a real sense
of humor there in college station that can kind of
be like, hey, guys, you know when videos like this
get out, it could possibly hurt us in recruiting because

(02:42:22):
there could be a kid who looks at it.

Speaker 2 (02:42:23):
And says, yeah, that looks weird.

Speaker 4 (02:42:24):
I don't think I want to be any part of
that Austin man that looks awesome. I definitely want to
be a part of that Baton Rige deal in Athens.

Speaker 2 (02:42:32):
Let's go. Why can't they deliver it just like normal?
Like yo, guys.

Speaker 18 (02:42:37):
The other day, I was talking about the Longhorns, you know,
like it said, it's this weird cadence of oh the tougher.

Speaker 2 (02:42:44):
The Longhorns schedule is nothing like you know, it's like a.

Speaker 4 (02:42:48):
Weird it's also too, it's the thermotion, punching up into
the air and kicking the leg up, all of that. Yeah, hey, look,
I mean Tony Hinchcliff is in Austin, Shane Gillis, he's
a Longhorn guy.

Speaker 2 (02:43:01):
Now actually he's a Notre Dame guy.

Speaker 4 (02:43:02):
But regardless, go to the Comedy Mothership and say, hey, look,
you know, everybody here we need help, like like we we.

Speaker 2 (02:43:10):
We need to up our game a little bit. Can
you can you all help us out?

Speaker 4 (02:43:13):
And I'm sure that Joe Rogan and the crew there
will be like, yeah, hey, let's let's get to work
on it. Everyone keeps looking help you with your material.

Speaker 18 (02:43:19):
Everyone keeps looking at your quote unquote traditions and calling
and saying it's weird and laughing at it. I think
it's sometimes it's okay to put some traditions to bed.

Speaker 4 (02:43:28):
Well, I mean, you know, it's also too, As Aggie
fans have reminded me, about you brought it up to
about them beating LSU this year. I said, good. I
can't wait to see the commemorative cup that comes out
for it. It'll be just tremendous next time I met
Kyle Field, so have that to look forward to, all right.
You know I hadn't had a chance to get into
the Aziz. I'll share your hit with Gordy, so we'll

(02:43:48):
do that as well. If you went to weigh in
on the phone lines anything that we've talked about, it's
fair game. Please seb one three two one two five
seven ninety. Once again, that's Sebone three two one two
five seven nine zero. We'll do that to wrap up
this edition of the Matt Thomas Show with Ross right
here Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:44:06):
How about Lance book color.

Speaker 4 (02:44:07):
Hey, Lance mccallers, back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk
seven ninety, your home for Houston Astros baseball Sports Talk
seven ninety. Be nice to see him back on the
mound this season. Lance mccullor is bringing us back. Appreciate that.
Lance some one three two and two five seven ninety

(02:44:30):
is number to get in on the phone lines. You know,
of all things we've talked about, today, Gordy, no Astros
news because there hasn't been any, uh, but league meetings
coming up next week, so I know we're gonna do
gut feelings tomorrow, which, by the way, no believe it
or not today, sorry kids, Uh but Matt will have
double the pleasure for you tomorrow from Sacramento. So you

(02:44:52):
got that to look forward to. But we're gonna do
gut feelings tomorrow, and I already have one gut feeling
for you. We will have finality to Alex Bregman before
Wednesday of next week. Before when Wednesday, okay, because I

(02:45:12):
think that probably Juan Soto will get done. And then
once that happens, I think that probably he and Scott
Boris have had enough conversations with everyone they want to
talk to that they'll go ahead and decide there in Arlington.

Speaker 2 (02:45:24):
All right, let's make the announcement. Let's have the press conference, and.

Speaker 4 (02:45:29):
Hopefully it's a press conference of everybody back here in
Houston and Alex Bregman, and you know, we get a
video message from Jim Crane of saying he's an Astro
for life.

Speaker 2 (02:45:38):
And uh, you really think that's gonna happen? I go
through waves with this.

Speaker 4 (02:45:45):
I initially felt like, not really a chance, but then
once jose Al Tuove said what he said and how
adamant he was, I was like, there is a good chance.

Speaker 2 (02:45:56):
Well let me rewind it. Do you think that's a
wise investment.

Speaker 4 (02:46:01):
Six years? Yes, any more than that probably not. See,
I don't even know if six years is I don't
think that's smart spending. And people make the whole case
for well, it doesn't matter what he is on the
back end. Well no, I mean I'm a GM and
I'm paid to make smart decisions. I do have to
take that into account. Baseball is fully guaranteed contracts. There

(02:46:21):
is no getting out of it. If he breaks down
in year two and he's never the same player, guess what,
I have to pay.

Speaker 18 (02:46:26):
Him all of it fully guaranteed. So yeah, I mean,
it's just that I've been on board with if they
decide not to make it. And this is partly with
somebody wants to give him a king's ransom out there,
but like I'm on board with not doing it. And
it sucks because he's still got some good years left

(02:46:48):
in him. But if it's going to take a massive
contract for six years, what I don't want to happen.
Is he asked us to become a relevant in two three,
four years. I want to keep this sustained success rolling.

Speaker 4 (02:47:01):
And here's the thing, though, too, is you know I've
given the giving tree example numerous times. You've been tempting
fate for the longest time. Losing George Springer didn't necessarily hurt.
Losing Carlos Korea. For the most part, it's not hurt
because Jeremy Peny has been able to give you good
things there at shortstop. But soon enough, like that credit
card bill comes due, Like soon enough, you keep plucking

(02:47:23):
away from this tree.

Speaker 2 (02:47:24):
Will use those two guys, you just use this example.

Speaker 18 (02:47:27):
Ask the Toronto Blue Jays they think they made a
wise investment in George Springer.

Speaker 2 (02:47:30):
Has it paid off for them?

Speaker 4 (02:47:31):
Well, no, because now they're trying to I mean, it's
been a terrible deal for them, but all reports are
they have the highest offer out there.

Speaker 2 (02:47:38):
So ask the Twins if they're happy with what they've
invested in Carl's Korea.

Speaker 4 (02:47:41):
I think now they are. After the last season. He
had a really good year last year. Okay, has he
lifted them at all? Has he elevated them now? A
point carried them to a postseason success. No, So my opinion,
like these were all the right decisions. Now a Garrett
Cole thing, they were never he was always going to
leave for the Yankees anyway, so you couldn't even offer
him what he'd always wanted to be a Yankee.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
So that was that.

Speaker 18 (02:48:02):
But like all these other moves are smart. And the
problem is if let's say Brakes goes and signs with
the Red Sox of the Diamondbacks and they make the
postseason once and they lose, and then the other years
they miss it, you.

Speaker 2 (02:48:15):
Look back and go, we made the right decision there too.

Speaker 4 (02:48:18):
I just I get worried about continuously losing guys that
are so counted on in that clubhouse, and he's obviously
one of those guys that's incredibly counted on. Would you
like for you know, faster starts to a season, Sure,
would you like for more offensively same deal there, But
I mean, I just I feel like Bregman would be
the one that would hurt the most for the reasons
that just throughout real quick. Here, We're gonna wait and

(02:48:40):
see what happens with a zz al Shaier. I mean,
I think I probably know where you come out with this.
I mean, you're one of the more rational ones. You're
not gonna be one of the you know, let me
feign my outrage for everybody out there to be on
the right side of history here. But I mean, what
are we necessarily talking about other than it was a
bad one looking play. The result of it was terrible.

(02:49:02):
But aside from that, like, what are we doing here
with all the hand ringing?

Speaker 2 (02:49:07):
Yeah? I mean again, it was an ugly It was
an ugly hit.

Speaker 18 (02:49:11):
He deserves uh to be suspended and we'll see what
that what that'll be. It's breaking news by the way,
Parker jenkins u of h running back hitting the portal.

Speaker 4 (02:49:20):
Oh okay, well, I'm surprised that Connor didn't have the
breaking news sounder, right.

Speaker 2 (02:49:25):
I think they had thirty four yards this year for them,
so not you.

Speaker 4 (02:49:29):
Know, do you think there's even guys too that you know,
we'll close out on this, But do you think there's
even guys out there too as well that they.

Speaker 2 (02:49:37):
Go into the coach?

Speaker 4 (02:49:37):
Hey, I'm gonna go into the portal and the coach says,
I don't really think that you're thinking this through, like
you're probably going to the FCS level.

Speaker 18 (02:49:46):
If you do this, think some people just want to
get a little bit of money. Okay, I've been told
by multiple people they've entered the portal just simply for
the STATEY don't want to leave the place they're at.
They just want the place they're at to handing up
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:49:59):
So they want for people to start dazzling them with
offers and you know, hey.

Speaker 2 (02:50:04):
Not dazzling, just something. Well, go out there and get yours.

Speaker 4 (02:50:09):
See what you can do, Gordy, I appreciate it, buddy,
Adam and Adam the A team, Adam Clanton, Adam Wexler,
coming your way and next Connor d mcgoverny, you're the man.
Me and Matt back here tomorrow, right here, Sports Talk
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