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December 5, 2024 • 14 mins
The release of the latest College Football Playoff rankings has raised many questions regarding teams that are being left out of the 12-team field ahead of conference championship weekend. Iowa State, Arizona State, South Carolina, and Ole Miss are pleading their case as they are currently on the outside looking in, while Alabama (9-3) sits at No. 11. How important is strength of schedule and will the College Football Playoff committee reconsider their selections following conference championships?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lunchtimers, lunchtimes. This is the Matt Thomas Show, eleven eighteen
on Sports Talk seven ninety It is the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. We have I just don't get it
coming up at the bottom of the hour. Your phone
calls are welcome at seven one three two one two

(00:22):
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven ninety We're supposed to have a special guest joining
us here at this point, but yeah, he's here.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Stop to show, all right, I'm here to save the show.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, Ross, we gotta bet, we gotta step out
because Gordy is here to save the show again.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I mean you invited me. I didn't create that sounder.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think it's a great one of my favorite one sounder.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Ie.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
That's part of the reason why we bring it. Brought
you in is the half of the sounder play.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Why do you hate it?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I just do.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's it's classic.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Come on, we we we we value as a member
of our seven year team we have.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, yeah, we're gonna get you on her somewhere now.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's good to see Ross back wearing is Texas gear
in here?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hook him horns?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
All right? Now, everybody has seen the top twelve or whatever,
then the thirteen forty list. Yeah, Gordy, when you first
saw it, what is your thought and how are you
thinking about it now? And what are you thinking about
what's going to happen this weekend? However, I guess the
easy question for you is who is going to bet?
Who's me really super pissed off this weekend?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I think my Miami fans. I think SMU fans. I
think if SMU loses, they are out. And so you
know this is on Clemson. Who you know, Clemson has
been pretty steady most of the year. They lost to
George and the opener. They had a hiccup along the way,
but you know, should have beaten South Carolina last week.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
They didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
But I think I think this, this committee's defiance for
or insistence that Alabama belongs in, I think it's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
But uh, and look, I'm an SEC guy. I you know,
I'm through and through.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm cool with the SEC getting four teams in, but
I don't think Bama deserves to be in. I mean,
they're getting the respect factor, the brand is getting the
love just simply because of what they've done over the years.
But nobody wants to acknowledge Mak Saban's not the coach
there anymore. This isn't the Bama teams of years past.
And I'm sorry, but two weeks ago I just watched
them get their ass beat up in Norman twenty four

(02:25):
to three, couldn't find the end zone.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's put their.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Third loss, and yet we're still to believe this is
one of the twelve best teams in the country.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I beg to differ.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so let's let's go in that room for a second.
Tell me on the resume, what makes Alabama a three
loss team in this conversation to begin.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
With Chi Jing Chi Jing Chijing.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's money, that's all this is. This is a to
put a brand in that's gonna get eyeballs. It's gonna
create viewership and ratings. No offense, SMU. Ain't nobody watching
the Ponies. It's Batman watch, It's Bama. It's it's the brand,
that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So SMU has one loss this year to a very
good BYU football team. That's it now, has it? How
has the ACC been week in and week out? How
have the opponent's been for SMU? Have they beaten anybody
of the chess moment.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's the thing you You brought up their loss, How
about their wins?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
What's their best win? Pitt? You know that's that's where
you get into it.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
And then you go, well, Bama b Georgia and BAMA
beat LSU and BAMA beat You know that. You start
you start comparing resumes and you go, well, what's SMU
have to stand on for their best win?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right, so let's go through the list of the
better s ACC teams. Did b YU play Syracuse this year?
Excuse me? Did SMU play Syracuse this year?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
No? Think so? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Did b YU play Clemson this year?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Did b YU play Clemson?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I keep saying, b way, I'm sorry sm getting these
letters on mix. Did SMU play SMU? Did SMU play.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
No, but they're going he'll play them Saturday.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay. Did SMU play Miami this year?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So? Where is SMU's signature victory?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's Pitt and Losville was ranked when they played him.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
But that's how it doesn't do you any favors.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, that's their two best sport.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Doesn't do any favors. Florida State certainly, did you know favors.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I mean, this is what sucks, because, like, I don't
want to discredit them.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
They've had a hell of a year.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, but if we're gonna start comparing, like that's that's
what people people like to jump to, what's your what's
your worst loss? Well, how much did you lose by
the other argument is what's your best wins? And I
think you've got to put something on a resume to
say I deserve to be in because I beat X.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, so if SMU loses to Clemson, they're out, you're thinking.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I me, personally, I would keep them in because I
don't think BAMA watching BAMA just get shellacked by six
and six Oklahoma, who then in turn got their SBA
at LSU.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Like, no, I'm sorry, you didn't earn it Alabama.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
In my p what if SMU said they had playing
problems and they can't get to Charlotte for the game this.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Year, they're gonna play. I think they can beat Clemson.
If they beat Clemson, that's a signature win and obviously
they'll get in.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Well yeah, but that's a fifty to fifty proposition at
this point, right, I mean, yeah, Clemson has been there,
done that, seme, this will be the biggest game they've had.
I mean, look, Indiana had one chance to prove to
the America they were good and they gotta beat badly
by Ohio C who then lost the final week to Mission.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, they're still gonna get in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Why is that? Can tell me why Indiana gets in
over SMU.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Because this committee doesn't value strength to schedule. They just
value wins. They don't care that you beat Florida International
and Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
They just look at you got w's. But that's not
the case. And against Alabama though, I mean with Alabama, right,
they're getting the love just because of the brand. But
he asked, why is Indianian because they're eleven to one.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, mister college football, you this cannot happen Alabama. If
you're telling me if Alabama has three losses, of which
how many of them are really like, the Oklahoma loss
is super.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Bad, right, law? The Georgia win is their best win.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
And then they beat Missouri when they were ranked, and
to beat LSU when they were ranked. Their losses were
at Vandy, at Tennessee and at Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
So I mean two of the three losses aren't terrible.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, Vandy and Oklahoma both finished six and six, so
my opinion, those are both bad losses. It's funny because
Ward Manual the other night that he was comparing Bama
and LSU. He goes, well, Bama's three and one against
teams in the top twenty five currently, and I said, yeah,
but what's their record against six and six teams?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh and two?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Like, why are we not bringing that up? They just
ignore that.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So Alabama's gonna get in once once. So if SMU wins,
is there any scenario of the teams in front of
Alabama that Alabama with three losses doesn't get in.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Here's the problem where they positioned them. They positioned them
at eleven. This is what's so stupid about South Carolina.
That's one six in a row is nine and three.
They just beat number two twelve Clemson on the road,
and they moved up one spot. Bama turned the ball
over four times against a bad Auburn team, beat them
twenty eight fourteen, and moved up two spots.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Bama got rewarded.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
For beating a bad Auburn team, so they're eleventh, and
so you can't move Bama down. I mean, they don't
play a game this week like they're gonna they can't
move out of the top twelve. In other words, nobody
behind them can jump them. Miami doesn't play a game,
they can't jump them.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So here's what you need to do. Why don't we
tell these conferences don't not to play these conference championship games?
And they're going like, well, that sounds great and everything,
but are we're getting paid millions of dollars by these
TV networks to play these games.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And by the way, we're gonna fill up a Bank
of America Stadium in Charlotte because SEMU and Clemson are
gonna play, and all the Clemson fans are gonna come
down and root for my team, this team, and we're
gonna make more money. So it's Frankly, Ross and Gordia,
it's a little bit of hypocrisy, these these conference championship
games of the Antichrist. Well, you're gaining the revenue from it,
and you're gaining the TV ratings and you're getting the
money from the networks for it.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, Lane Kiff, which which way you're gonna have it?
Lane Kiffin was onto something. I mean he made the
case a few weeks ago. Why would you want to
play for a conference championship, play another game where our
risk injury and all this. I'd rather take the bye
week host a playoff game the next way. And that's
what Tennessee is going through right now. Tennessee is like
Josh Pipel just wrapped up siding day. They're going through
a little bit of practice, they get a little weak
to rest, get healthy, Like it's actually a little bit

(08:20):
of a benefit. Who wants to go play? Like, watch
what happens to Texas. Watch if they lose the conference
championship and suffer a significant loss, like when yours gets
hurt or something like, they're screwed.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
They're like, it would be the worst thing if Quinn
got hurt.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, that's true. I'm I'm an arts truth.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
You are endorsing injuries. Amazing, that's I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Endorsing any the running back.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
I'm saying they have a capable backup, so it wouldn't
be the worst thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Matt, I just thought you just texted me. Can Alzis
play for uh suit up for Georgia for Georgia this weekend?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't think he can no, I didn't text you that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
All right, so Monday and that won't be here. But
when Gordy and you argue with Ross about this, if
you work Monday, what's gonna be the biggest complaint? What's
Who's going to be the loudest barker of all of everything?
By the way, do you see brenton your mark? The
Big twelve commissioners said we deserve a bye. We're the
freaking Big twelve. We deserve a bye. We are And

(09:18):
there's no way to know how that a Boise State
or anybody else none P. Four should beginning to buy
over us.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, you asked, who's gonna be the biggest complainer in
the room? Yep, Danny Canell. I mean that guy hates
the SEC so much he is going to be bitching
up up a storm about Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, he get four teams in Miami, deserves to be in.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, So Miami's gonna be Mad's gonna be mad? I
think so is big as Are you clear, Dore? They
are they good to go there?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
In Indiana's in? Yeah, the Big the Big ten has
got four in no matter what.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So wait a minute, you're telling me you were talking
about strength of schedule. I use strength schedules terrible. They
had one chance to beat to beat their chest and
they could I.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Agree, but they're ignoring it. They're not looking at strength
to schedule with with the other teams.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
All right.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean Texas played the weakest strength of schedule in
the entire SEC, ranked sixteen of sixteen.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh roushie. I don't think you can get away with.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
That sixteen out of sixteen based on what opponent record
or something?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, okay, yeah, how about you Texas?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
They didn't make the SEC schedule if you want to
go overboard.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
They played really only two true SEC road games all
year at Arkansas at A and.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
M, and they won them. Yeah, congrats. How about you
go to Knoxville.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Or Oxford or.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Kyle Field. So easy to win? And what else you
do it? That's that's so easy, great Fanny, so easy
to win? O. How come Alabama didn't do it?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
You you guys are aaron kick.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Away from bowing that one, but they didn't. Yeah, congrats,
win is a win.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You took.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
You took basic math and got and hey, plus we
all took algebra three and oh we got.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah. They they scheduled who scheduled them. Who's on the
schedules what they didn't make it?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Or medial math two point zero? Next year you get
the same schedule. Congrats.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Okay again, LSU didn't think Kyle Field was so easy.
They got their shipped over there.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Here's you need to think.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Score a point.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Joe Jammel family, the Red McCombs family, call them passing
dollar bills onto the Thanks for giving us the easiest
schedule at Oklahoma the toughest.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Okay, yeah, Florida is so easy.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
That's why, Lis, you got their ass by Florida quarterback
got their ass all right, yours.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
And they're losing bleeding recruits and you're very upset.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I wish you well playing all these backup quarterbacks every week.
It's great.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Thanks for the DBS. We appreciate you. Text Lo, here's
a spoiler.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Carson Beck will not throw a pick this week. He
will not. Georgia wins big.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's why we brought Gordian here. By way, Connor, do
you regulate Gordion's microphone? You know, always gets his microphone
levels way high during this spirited conversation.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, I've been moving it up and down as the
volume is louder Man Gordion.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't know what Rosster you have planning for money,
but you got to bring Gordian for Lisa' second.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
You can just fight for he's busy.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
By the way, Texas next year gets San Jose State,
UTEP and Sam Houston.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No, wait, what happened to Sam Houston?

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Somebody was a backed out on him and you didn't
mention one other one in Houston.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, you open at Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Okay, wait a minute, you're such a fraud. You did
bring that up.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Congrats they went They went to Michigan this year. You
know the team that beat Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Oh guess what next year you got to go to Kentucky.
Look out, Yeah, you gotta go to Mississippi State.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Hold on.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
I was the one that was told the SEC was
the greatest conference in all times.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
If you play eight games against the SE that sounds
like that should be a.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Pretty difficult because the conference in the history of conferences.
So if you play eight games in the greatest league,
that sounds like.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's up the deepest and best conference ever.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Okay, top half of these comforts.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I didn't make the schedule, Okay, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do anything brag about. It's like saying I beat Kansas
and Baylor and I won the Big twelve.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, come on it beat A and m l SU
couldn't get it done.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Okay, great, but you didn't play You didn't play ALBA,
didn't get it done.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
You didn't play Alabama, you didn't play all the Michigan
in Kentucky. You didn't play Miszoo. Connor's Missoo would have
given you all better fight.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, Well they didn't. They weren't on the schedule.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well that's what I'm saying. Thank you, Greg Sanky in
the SEC office, you paid them.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Well, so you're saying, you're saying that money was paid
from the Texas Long Orange Athletic Department to the commissioner
in order to get this scheduled.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Arm and did not. Then who said of OMNI the
Red mccomb's family. The Red McCombs family gave money family.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
You're saying they gave money to Greg Sanki to manipulate
this this SEC schedule.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's what you're deny.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You're an idiot.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Bob Rowling is worth ten point nine billion dollars owns
the OMNI. Where was SEC Media Days this year, and
that they were in Okay to see the proud Longhorn.
Alum paid for that one.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
He paid money for that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, Gordy gotta love this.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I just this is like radio sex.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's how it's that good it is. That is weird.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know what I mean? No, I don't you do.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
God, I'm done talk to you Monday.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Come in, come in and talk, Come in and fight
with Ross for like an hour.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It'll be good whatever it booze.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
So I can't fight with you like that because my
coups we we we we First we scheduled Big twelve
competition tough, and then we got non conference tilts like
you wouldn't believe. At U, we got a game at Rice,
got a home game with s f A, and then
a tough trip to Oregon State. That's what I'm talking about.
We'll mess around.
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