April 30, 2025 • 8 mins
Rockets Legend Vernon Maxwell Joins The Show Before Game 5 of NBA Playoffs
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is exactly ten thirty here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross the front of the show. Rockets Legend
University of Florida Championship team nineteen ninety four. Still the
best lockdown too, Guard, I've ever seen my play, especially
against Michael Jeffrey Jordan is Vernon Maxwell. He's on the show,
Mad Max. You're gonna bet the arena tonight early, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Definitely? Yeah, we're gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I need everybody just show up early unless show out.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Everybody's gonna wear their Vernon Maxwell jerseys for tonight's game?
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I hope so. I don't know how many jerseys they
have on and but yeah, that's the port old Mad Max.
But we definitely need we need to win. That's the
most important thing.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's great to get a win. I know, it's one
of those I hate that term, must win. We got
to go to it at this point, Hey, what would
you do if you were able to pull Jayalen Green
aside for tonight's game? What would you what would you
What kind of a great guidance would you give the
young man?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just go out there and play and do what you've
been doing all year? You know, because it works, you know,
and you know, I don't think you just play the
game when you think the game so much, you know,
tends to you tend.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To play like a robot.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Just go out and play the game free, like he
always been playing every since he been a kid and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
To take care of himself. Just play free.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It is incredible how a little bit of difference in
this series. A few intangibles we were talking about. There's
a nine point discrepancy between the Rockets and the Warriors
in these four games, and that can be free throws,
and that certainly has been a huge part of that.
I was telling the audience and maybe you can back
me up on this as as a former player. You
can go to a practice facility, you can go to
game day and shoot around and shoot five hundred free
(01:45):
throws and make four or ninety eight of them. It's
a different animal. When you got eighteen thousand people screaming
at you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Is not.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Absolutely that's yeah, that's just what I was.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, but no, that's fue That's a lot of pressure,
you know, in the playoffs especially, you know what I mean,
every point counts, and I mean, like you say that,
it's a little detailed things that matters, matters the most
in the playoffs, and of turnovers and making free throws
and things that I mean right now, you know, we
(02:15):
just need to go out and play, man, get us
a win, man, and just and just play free and
uh and and down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Just make some shots.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man, We got to make shots down the stretch and
get stopped down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So what have your emotions been during this series with
all these games being as close they have. I mean,
I don't know if you're if you're a guy that
can sit still, if you're jumping around, if you're swearing
people on, what's been going through your miam these days?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
A lot of swearing and up and down. Man, it's
been up and down for me because you know, I mean,
one minute we're playing well and playing like we you know,
like uh Udoka got to like them to play, and
then the next minute we play like we tight, like
we're trying to like play just to preserve the just
to hold on to the wind.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But not you got to keep doing what you did
to get the lead. Just keep playing, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What I mean, if that means blowing somebody out in
the playoffs, just keep playing, don't stop playing, Just keep
playing the way you played to get the lead.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
There's a happy hour going on. Do you know what
the specials are? Don't even find out for myself.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Uh man, we got hot dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We got half of it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now we got we got everything. You know what a
happy hour. Let's come out and John, O'matt, Max and
O Stepiend franchise is gonna be a good Show's gonna
be a good thing. Tonight were signing autographs. Wenna, have
a little party.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Get everybody ready for the Why don't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Y'all play a one on one game right now? We'll
set up a makeshift court on the on the promenade somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't think that will work for me because I'm sixty.
You know I'm sixty. So I think Stephen Franchise can
have that. I would let him have that. I hadn't
played ball and probably about it. I shoot around, but
as far as I ain't like competitively, no, I.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, now out of work. Now I'll do that. Now
that's a good show. That'll be something I would love
to do, but I've not playing. I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I can't play anymore. I'm just I'm just a shooter
catching shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Back, all right, Max Wanta FCC Family Radio Stations. I
gotta be careful on this. I'm gonna give you a question.
Give me some thoughts about Dreamond Green.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And he just he just does whatever it takes for
his team to win, you know what I mean. And
I love that about it, you know what I mean.
I wish he was on our side, you know, in
this series, but unfortunately he's not.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But we got to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Like I keep saying, it comes down to, we have
to do whatever we got to do tonight to get
this victory. But one thing I need though, for real,
I'm just saying this now. I need all our fans.
I need him to show up earlier. Man, I need
to Last time I was here, I'm so coming.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They came in late.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need to come in early. I need to fancy
be in the seats early tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what we should do. We should get everybody
that's going to the game. Then I get their phone numbers,
and then you get it to them and then you
call them in like A four forty five said, where
you are ass at?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Now, let's go get inside of this building. That'd be
a way'd be easy to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And we're gonna make it happen. Don't You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Make eighteen thousand folk calls. You're not that busy these days.
You're sixty. Remember you told us that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I'm just jelling. I'm just telling you you're absolutely right. Yeah,
absolutely right, I'm just chelling. And that's how I got
the podcast going.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm free yay man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Your podcast is spicy, my man? What's going on with that?
You gotta be careful with that language occasionally, don't you
don't you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, no, we doncensored.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So that's why, that's why, that's why, that's why I
do so well with that, because you know, I can
pretty much say what I want to and there's nothing
like recommending me, telling me all knowing to back over
their way the while I'm live, telling me, no, you
can't do that, you can't say that. So no, that's
(06:09):
when I'm at my best when I can pretty much
say that word.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I always use a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Are you doing that with? Is that what Matt Barnes
you're doing that podcast with? Who else you working with
on that?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah? Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes on all the smoke.
So yeah, yeah, this is a great I was glad
to be able to adjoin those guys.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
All right, last question for let your roll, Max, Uh,
give me, I want you to close your eyes unless
you're driving, and give me to paint the picture for
the Houston audience right now. How this game is gonna
go down tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
All right, Okay, we know it's gonna be a tough game.
It's gonna be all the way through. It's gonna go
back and.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Forth all the way through.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But just down the stretch, I just got the Rockets
winning by slim margin. But we're gonna win because, like
I said all the time, you know, I think this year,
every game that I came to, we have a loss.
So and so I'm here now so and uh, but
I think going down the stretch, we just got to
make stretch and get some stops, you know, and what
(07:13):
I mean, and and and just keep our composer.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that's hard for me to say.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I know, And we got to keep our composure to
out here, you know, because you know, we got it's
gonna be a real hostile game. And I know the guys,
I'm out there wanting to fight and get that get back,
you know. And but we just gotta keep our composer.
Just go out there and do what we've been doing
all year.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's why work. Yeah, And that's why Max Draymond scares
me because I think he knows they're up three to one.
He's he's gotten all sorts of wiggle rooms so far.
He's gonna do whatever he can to get the rockets
out of their psyche. At this point.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Absolutely, it's gonna be dirty Raymond and night man.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So everybody better get used to get ready for it.
So that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Legal screens and whatever you gotta do, get up on
somebody's skin, get somebody kicked out. So mean. So but
we just got to hold out, composing man, and just
go out and do what we did all year.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Max and you guys, that's right. Max and Steevie Franchise
are gonna be at the arena tonight beforehand doing autographs,
hanging out in the Corona area. I guess you can
be all bumping around the arena. Go find him, go
say hello. You'll take a picture where he's got a
sweet smile, and he's still can hit a mid range
jumper like nobody's business. That's Vernon Maxwell, Max. It's a
pleasure to have you on our show today. Thank you
very much for
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Coming on with us.
It is exactly ten thirty here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross the front of the show. Rockets Legend
University of Florida Championship team nineteen ninety four. Still the
best lockdown too, Guard, I've ever seen my play, especially
against Michael Jeffrey Jordan is Vernon Maxwell. He's on the show,
Mad Max. You're gonna bet the arena tonight early, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Definitely? Yeah, we're gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I need everybody just show up early unless show out.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Everybody's gonna wear their Vernon Maxwell jerseys for tonight's game?
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I hope so. I don't know how many jerseys they
have on and but yeah, that's the port old Mad Max.
But we definitely need we need to win. That's the
most important thing.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's great to get a win. I know, it's one
of those I hate that term, must win. We got
to go to it at this point, Hey, what would
you do if you were able to pull Jayalen Green
aside for tonight's game? What would you what would you
What kind of a great guidance would you give the
young man?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just go out there and play and do what you've
been doing all year? You know, because it works, you know,
and you know, I don't think you just play the
game when you think the game so much, you know,
tends to you tend.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To play like a robot.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Just go out and play the game free, like he
always been playing every since he been a kid and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
To take care of himself. Just play free.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It is incredible how a little bit of difference in
this series. A few intangibles we were talking about. There's
a nine point discrepancy between the Rockets and the Warriors
in these four games, and that can be free throws,
and that certainly has been a huge part of that.
I was telling the audience and maybe you can back
me up on this as as a former player. You
can go to a practice facility, you can go to
game day and shoot around and shoot five hundred free
(01:45):
throws and make four or ninety eight of them. It's
a different animal. When you got eighteen thousand people screaming
at you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Is not.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Absolutely that's yeah, that's just what I was.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, but no, that's fue That's a lot of pressure,
you know, in the playoffs especially, you know what I mean,
every point counts, and I mean, like you say that,
it's a little detailed things that matters, matters the most
in the playoffs, and of turnovers and making free throws
and things that I mean right now, you know, we
(02:15):
just need to go out and play, man, get us
a win, man, and just and just play free and
uh and and down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Just make some shots.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man, We got to make shots down the stretch and
get stopped down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So what have your emotions been during this series with
all these games being as close they have. I mean,
I don't know if you're if you're a guy that
can sit still, if you're jumping around, if you're swearing
people on, what's been going through your miam these days?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
A lot of swearing and up and down. Man, it's
been up and down for me because you know, I mean,
one minute we're playing well and playing like we you know,
like uh Udoka got to like them to play, and
then the next minute we play like we tight, like
we're trying to like play just to preserve the just
to hold on to the wind.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But not you got to keep doing what you did
to get the lead. Just keep playing, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What I mean, if that means blowing somebody out in
the playoffs, just keep playing, don't stop playing, Just keep
playing the way you played to get the lead.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
There's a happy hour going on. Do you know what
the specials are? Don't even find out for myself.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Uh man, we got hot dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We got half of it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now we got we got everything. You know what a
happy hour. Let's come out and John, O'matt, Max and
O Stepiend franchise is gonna be a good Show's gonna
be a good thing. Tonight were signing autographs. Wenna, have
a little party.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Get everybody ready for the Why don't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Y'all play a one on one game right now? We'll
set up a makeshift court on the on the promenade somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't think that will work for me because I'm sixty.
You know I'm sixty. So I think Stephen Franchise can
have that. I would let him have that. I hadn't
played ball and probably about it. I shoot around, but
as far as I ain't like competitively, no, I.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, now out of work. Now I'll do that. Now
that's a good show. That'll be something I would love
to do, but I've not playing. I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I can't play anymore. I'm just I'm just a shooter
catching shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Back, all right, Max Wanta FCC Family Radio Stations. I
gotta be careful on this. I'm gonna give you a question.
Give me some thoughts about Dreamond Green.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And he just he just does whatever it takes for
his team to win, you know what I mean. And
I love that about it, you know what I mean.
I wish he was on our side, you know, in
this series, but unfortunately he's not.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But we got to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Like I keep saying, it comes down to, we have
to do whatever we got to do tonight to get
this victory. But one thing I need though, for real,
I'm just saying this now. I need all our fans.
I need him to show up earlier. Man, I need
to Last time I was here, I'm so coming.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They came in late.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need to come in early. I need to fancy
be in the seats early tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what we should do. We should get everybody
that's going to the game. Then I get their phone numbers,
and then you get it to them and then you
call them in like A four forty five said, where
you are ass at?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Now, let's go get inside of this building. That'd be
a way'd be easy to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And we're gonna make it happen. Don't You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Make eighteen thousand folk calls. You're not that busy these days.
You're sixty. Remember you told us that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I'm just jelling. I'm just telling you you're absolutely right. Yeah,
absolutely right, I'm just chelling. And that's how I got
the podcast going.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm free yay man.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Your podcast is spicy, my man? What's going on with that?
You gotta be careful with that language occasionally, don't you
don't you.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, no, we doncensored.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So that's why, that's why, that's why, that's why I
do so well with that, because you know, I can
pretty much say what I want to and there's nothing
like recommending me, telling me all knowing to back over
their way the while I'm live, telling me, no, you
can't do that, you can't say that. So no, that's
(06:09):
when I'm at my best when I can pretty much
say that word.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I always use a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Are you doing that with? Is that what Matt Barnes
you're doing that podcast with? Who else you working with
on that?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah? Steven Jackson and Matt Barnes on all the smoke.
So yeah, yeah, this is a great I was glad
to be able to adjoin those guys.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
All right, last question for let your roll, Max, Uh,
give me, I want you to close your eyes unless
you're driving, and give me to paint the picture for
the Houston audience right now. How this game is gonna
go down tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
All right, Okay, we know it's gonna be a tough game.
It's gonna be all the way through. It's gonna go
back and.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Forth all the way through.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But just down the stretch, I just got the Rockets
winning by slim margin. But we're gonna win because, like
I said all the time, you know, I think this year,
every game that I came to, we have a loss.
So and so I'm here now so and uh, but
I think going down the stretch, we just got to
make stretch and get some stops, you know, and what
(07:13):
I mean, and and and just keep our composer.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that's hard for me to say.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I know, And we got to keep our composure to
out here, you know, because you know, we got it's
gonna be a real hostile game. And I know the guys,
I'm out there wanting to fight and get that get back,
you know. And but we just gotta keep our composer.
Just go out there and do what we've been doing
all year.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's why work. Yeah, And that's why Max Draymond scares
me because I think he knows they're up three to one.
He's he's gotten all sorts of wiggle rooms so far.
He's gonna do whatever he can to get the rockets
out of their psyche. At this point.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Absolutely, it's gonna be dirty Raymond and night man.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So everybody better get used to get ready for it.
So that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Legal screens and whatever you gotta do, get up on
somebody's skin, get somebody kicked out. So mean. So but
we just got to hold out, composing man, and just
go out and do what we did all year.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Max and you guys, that's right. Max and Steevie Franchise
are gonna be at the arena tonight beforehand doing autographs,
hanging out in the Corona area. I guess you can
be all bumping around the arena. Go find him, go
say hello. You'll take a picture where he's got a
sweet smile, and he's still can hit a mid range
jumper like nobody's business. That's Vernon Maxwell, Max. It's a
pleasure to have you on our show today. Thank you
very much for
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Coming on with us.
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