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August 10, 2025 31 mins

In October 2020, a person from Virginia traveled to a remote cabin in LeFlore County, Oklahoma, to meet Bob Lee Allen and Thomas Evans Gates—two individuals they had connected with online. What happened next turned a private arrangement into a full-blown criminal investigation, raising disturbing questions about consent, legality, and the hidden corners of the internet.


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