Episode 355 w/ The Isley Brothers

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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when I tell you, man, when we started this show,
we wanted to give people their flowers. You know that's
been in this game, and that's been season, that's been
you know, loyal to this game. And and when we
talk about these two brothers, uh, we're talking beyond legendary,
we talk them beyond iconic. We're talking Tycoon, we're talking

(01:20):
global galaxy. We're talking new plan type of thing. These brothers,
I can't I can't you when you go through their catalog,
they take you three days thirty two albums, countless hits.
You can't name without them. They've been here, they are

(01:45):
doing it, They're still looking good. They pull them up
as printers, came late as hell as they important. We
had to wear presidential time, and we didn't keep playing
that one time. It's more even legendary. And man, I
just want to thank them because me listening to the

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music and me going through it and me, you know,
knowing the struggles of how they started and where they
are now and they continue to be. And like mister
Lee was trying to say, a lot of our parents
was making baby music, I'm thinking millions if if I
could say it, there's a lot as millions of babies.

(02:28):
Generation was definitely more than one generation because these brothers,
and I'm not gonna lie, it's probably everyone in this
every man man. I'll be honest. Man, Um, you know,
being fans of y'all and being in the presence of y'all,

(02:52):
it's like it's like, yeah, everything that I expect y'all
to be. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, y'all,
you smooth smooths walk head the drench col on when
you got the leavel just y'all just walk in and
y'all a definitely, I'll be ane something. You are the
iconic figure that I thought you was gonna be. Let's
make that. So I usually wait, it usually wait for

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the for the to get into the drinks. But I'm
gonna get into the drink. Yeah, let's give me a
flower and the flowers. Let's listen. Our show is about
giving people um like again, I hate I hate our
people when it comes to this. When what I mean
by that is they put a time limit on on
you and they say, yo, man, if you got ten

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twenty years and it's over and you should I don't.
We don't believe in that. Here and here we believe
that that season. We believe that that is what time
with wine. Wine get better with time. So why why
wouldn't music, Why wouldn't people? Why wouldn't us don't sell
them in on an artistry? So where this show is
about giving people their flowers. We want to off top,

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give you all y'all flowers of top off top right
now top yes, yes, yeah, and we can't tell my
drake I want my yes, yes, this is yes, yes, yeah,
it's fantastic. Yeah, so let's I got so much notes, man,

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I went so hard for this, you want to start,
Let's just take it back. Let's as far as we
can go. Where's the inspiration for you guys? Actually thinking
about it, you guys, there weren't many family groups and bands.
You know, everybody thinks of the Jackson five, but you
predate them, right right. So was there any other inspirations

(04:46):
as as a family unit to make music? Well, we
you know what, we followed people like Clarde make Fatter,
you know, and the day and uh, actually our my
mother and fathers was in the in the business, and
they were raised us to do what we do. And uh,

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they wanted us to be a group that knew knew
all the songs, Warren By, gospel, country, Western, everything. They
taught us all that and they said for the group
to last as long as the meals of brothers. You know.

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I think we accomplished, you know. And so our first
hit record was in eighteen fifty nine. You know, you
make me want to shout to this day. Of course.
Of course we've been charted all the way up to

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right now, in eight decades our album right now, we
uh just been on the charts for five weeks it
was number one, and for thirty weeks has been in
the top ten. It was number six. Nowns with Beyonce,
goddamn us. And that's a record that Beyonce record. That's

(06:13):
a record that had already been sampled from y'all already too.
That is UM I believe it's cross Roads from um
Bones and I believe that Street James Remix were not like,
so yeah, that's crazy. The third or fourth time in
Beyonce wants to come and sample. How is that? Her
mother knows UM contact. She's one of our favorite fans.
You know, we had more samples than James Brown. Wow,

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and James Brown had a lot last last encounter, we
were over a thousand samples. Yes, with the rappers and
you know and which is which? Which is like we
were the flag right? So how was that? Getting a
call saying that Beyonce wanted to work with y'all and
especially well, like I called her mother and then said,

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you know, we getting ready to do this album. Wanted
her to do little you know, the record with us.
Her mother called her and she in five minutes she
called back, yes, yes, yes, I want to do and
she had record at the record with the her group people,
but it was, you know, a different recording, and so

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we decided on that record. Man. You know, she's so talented, man,
I mean, she's so talented. I think the people know that.
They don't know that, but but she's so she worked
so hard man, and we just were blown away with

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the record. Her mother cried about it. Her favorite song
is uh A little love of You, you know. And
we did songs with Rick Cross recently, Yeah, don't you.
We did songs with Quevo, take Off, Wow, We did

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songs with Shane by uh Snoop Dogg. You know, and
if you ain't did song with them, they sampled you
for sure. Yeah. I couldn't believe how sampled you. Guys
were like I knew it, but didn't when you know,
I'm doing the research. But let me ask you one

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thing because at this time, you know, um hip hop
used to be considered a fad, right. It was like,
you know, that's something that people are doing in the hood.
Did you was you Was it ever concerned of you saying,
you know what, someone taking my classic record of minds
is doing it over or um? Was it ever concerned
like them messing up the legacy of it. My brother
Ernie called me when the Biggie did uh, and we

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celebrated when the flipped out you know when you call me.
We put a part of them in that show. Now
ice Cube, ice Cube is one of my best friends,
you know, wow, and where you're going too fast on

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you can't be coming from ice Cube. The biggest smalls
we got at it is he was just saying it
like it's a regular note. This is not regular people.
Hold on, okay, and he's not regular records too. These
records are huge. That's what's the crazy. We had George
Clinton on recently, right, and the difference that we noticed
was George have a lot of samples as well, but

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it seems like the samples that sample, y'all, it's the
huge records. Yeah, like like huge, Like, um, so where
are you at? Because ice Cube coming comes way before Biggie?
So when is you you at? Where what is the record? Label?
Call you and say ice Cube just did your record over? Yeah? Okay,
and what did they say? They say? Let's say, you know,
we wanted to listen, you know, so we listen to say, man,

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just this is incredible, right, because you guys haven't clear, right,
So when the sign I want, I want to do
one of your songs and every picture that I made.
That's what he's so, which is a blessing. Yeah, but uh,
everybody is. I don't know how many samples in between

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the sheets, right earned you keeps something with a lot
of that, you know, but that's that's that's the same
one biggie sample and I'm Drake also draking. Little Wayne
did a freestyle over it as well. Jay Z and
Whitney Houston. To Jesus, Jesus, I'll just be honest because

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you know this, This is when I think of black excellence.
When I think of excellence period, I think of you brothers, man,
I really do. Because like to stand the test of
time and to still be who you are, that's that's
a hard that's a hard thing to do. Wow, that's

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a hard thing to do, man, to still have the respect.
And let me tell you something. I can ask any
Jimmy generation about the Odsley's brothers and they all they're
all going to answer with the same amount of respect.
Do you understand how much you would love to reved
in in the community. Wow? Wow, that's that's amazing, man. Okay,
it's really amazing. We came at what people are like

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Sam Cook, Jackie Wilson, you you name it, you know
they were. We learned things from Sam Cook, I learned
things from Jackie Wilson, clad Nick Fatter. I mean, you
can go all the way back and I can tell
you stories about all those guys. Man, right, you know,
Jimmy Henri lifted jersey right in Jersey. That's crazy. I

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was trying to get to that in my notes. You
made this first record with us, you know, testify, and
we never thought I mean, we thought he was the
greatest guitar player in the world, but we never thought
that he would you know, become before he went, you
know to acid yeo. And my brother was like playing baseball.

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Then when you started playing with us, our players drums,
and he talked to Jimmy Hendricks every day, and all
of a sudden, Hey, he's the next Americs, you know, man,
you know, all that's been wonderful. God blessed us. Man.

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Our father mother was concerned with us. She said, never
do drugs. No one in the family had did any drugs,
you know, And I think that's a big part of
us with asking this long, you know, but God had
his hands on us all the way. This is a

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rumor that you was singing in church at two years old. Yes,
I was, Well, you know about it all because I
remember reading this story, hearing this story, and I'm sitting
back and I had to think about my grandmother in church,
and my grandmother told me up there and be like, well,

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I couldn't sing ship, so I ain't win l twenty
five dollars right, yeah, twenty five one one. I was
standing on a chair. So yeah, wow, that's great. Did
your your mom ain't do that? You ain't? You ain't? Yeah,
you sonny, Sonny, your mom wasn't proud of you like that.
I'm just being honest. I'm sorry I took a shot
at my friend. It's just come all over the place. Man. Okay,

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mmm see that he already took my Jimmy jury questions.
Talk about fight the power that that Chuck d was
inspired by You're power? Oh yeah, Ernie wrote that. Yeah.
We uh had our family uh after we finished the
Living Up album literally seventy four Uh, our mother, nieces

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and nephews and the wives came out and I was
in a good mood and I jumped in the shower
and for some reason I started half singing or reciting.
Time is truly wasting. There's no guarantee smiles in the making.
Fight the powers that beat and so point this way,

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shower curtain went that way. Water is everywhere, And I
jumped out the shower and grabbed a pencil, piece of paper,
scribble that down and put that in my hip pocket.
Of when we went to Disneyland that day. I didn't
say anything about that song for another two or three months,
but telling me you wrote a hit record and then
went to Disneyland, Yeah, like the commercial. Yeah, okay, but

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at the time Hernie started writing song I got Harvest
for the World and you at your best, um, and
make me say it again, the song I'm Not Now,
and on and on and on. You know, I wrote
a lot of songs at the beginning before he got
into the group, the ter thing and shout and all
that type, you know, work to do. Yeah, now this

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is something that um that I got. I got explained
to the other day. Um. People said that, you know,
people looked at the Beatles in a more of respect
way than they looked at Elvis, because they said Elvis
would like you know, like I don't want to say still,
but he would take from people that wouldn't give it
the credit as opposed to the Beatles, but the Beatles
would your situation with the Beatles with shout was, how

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was that experience? Well, when we went to England, they
were imitating us. They were like doing about the Beatles
or everybody was and they you know, Paul McCartney will
tell you today you know what to say if it
don't be for the Eyes brothers, and we would still

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be in Liverpool, you know. Yeah, I'm assuming Liverpool is
the hood and ye and England. Yes, that's when he
started off clubs and stuff. They're in Liverpool, yell. But yeah,
that so all right? So they want to cover your song, right, yeah,

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so at the time, I'm assuming there's not a lot
of videos. There's not so, but do you know the
Beatles as white people when they when it comes to
you when we were over there every day, the Rolling Stones,
Beetles and us was together at night. They were talking
about staying at the house when they come to to

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New York City. They were asking questions like does James
Brown had to have a hundred pair of shoes and
do we shine those shoes before we go on stage,
because you guys were the rock starts to them. Yeah, yeah,
and uh, we said all those questions. You know, there
were plenty questions and game. We got a hunder passion.

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You call the shoes every day when you say, well,
you care a lot of them. So those are the
kind of questions. They can we stay at your house
when we can with you guys carross to the Pole?
Did wow? We promised to do all that. It was
just the three brothers then. And uh, actually when they

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when they came to New York, there were the hottest
you know, I think they first get it was at
Sullivan you know, on television. Fifty thousand people look reat them,
you know, wow, and so everything just went wild. Then, Yeah,
that's crazy. And when you guys were in London, didn't

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Elton John play with you guys? Yeah, the Elton Johns
and I keep boarding player. That's incredible. Yeah, and and
and we're gonna do that in the in the next
album that we're doing it, we'll do a record together. Yeah.
But he was his name Elton John back then. Elton
John told us, y'all should listen to something you should
vote on a hundred songs. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't listen

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to because he was just a hired hand at the time, right,
but we were just without and uh what a week ago, Yeah,
the Motown thing for Barry Gordian smoking, oh yeah, and
we talked about you know, and he's he's gonna do
a song with us and Mariah Carey and you know

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all that. So Elton Is is just so talented man,
He's just great song writer and his tour has done uh,
just tremendous, tremendous business. Right yeah, right now, now something
I was uh asking, This is something I question. I

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actually don't know. Some people call motown and they when
they say motown, they say that label. But then some
people say motown and they say the style of music.
How do you look when you hit the word motown. Well,
they're actually one of the greatest companies. We learned so
much when we went there. We went there out there,

(19:18):
we had did Twisted, Shout and Shout and some other records,
and we had a pretty big name. And our first
record there was this so Heart of Mine. That's the
first release went out there. A week I called Berry
guarded up saying I'm coming. We're coming to send send
three tickets. We'll be out there and and he said, oh, okay,

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you know I thought that's where it was done. Anyway,
we went out there and we heard, we heard with
the Holland Indulger and uh. One of the songs that
we did and we picked was this art of Mine
and it came out because we we're gonna be out
there playing some club. Anyway, they wanted to release a record,

(20:08):
you know, something new on us, and they put that
out hands a demo. We're not gonna just went about
number one record. Yeah, just so long and right. That
was the record they asked us to do at the
at the show. You know, so being number one at
that time, Um, all the time and travel and traveling

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like was there toll buses? How was it? How? How
did your travel? Stevie wonder what was coming across the
street and then cars was going. We're talking about what
somebody had stories, stories, get crazy crazy. Shock said he

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wanted the elevator with Stevie. He was just him Stevie.
So you're telling me Stevie. One of course the street
by myself, man gonna get America. Did he know he
was crossing the free I didn't know. I don't know.
It was holy shit, I was you know, I was
trying to visit. No, no, no, none of that. No no, no, no,

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no walking stick, none of that. He just wore, Holy man.
Hold we're shining in the cab. We got in the cabin,
pulled up to the company and said, charge it to Motown. Wow,
that's it, we did, say, got on to me. You

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told the cap changed to Motown from Marathon. We pulled
up in front of the company, said ya, I don't
know what the meter said, but he said, charge of
the motown. Wow. What was that? How powerful motile was that?

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I don't know if they knew they were so oh,
let me ask you. Right, one thing is like, what's
happening at this time was segregation? Right? Well, one thing
I won't telling you. When I wrote the song it's
your thing. They very guardin't them sued us. That's the

(22:27):
first time they got sued. He sued us because they
thought that holland indulgence. Some of their writers said, bro,
you know, so we back and forth you know that
with the court, and we wind up winning. You know,
but that that was one of the the things that

(22:48):
really hurt us, you know, your own kind because yeah,
because he didn't believe or that song is super big,
like y'all couldn't have wrote it. Yeah, And from that
time on, you know, I guess we did every song
that you you hear, you know, the majority of songs

(23:09):
that you hear, and it's successful by the highest of brothers. Yeah,
h oh. Yes. We started Tea Neck Records with this
your thing, okay, Yeah, and you know we learned what

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we were doing out there Motown and what they were doing. Uh,
that was it. You know, we figured, uh, that was
the way to go. And it turned out here we
could release what we wanted to release when we wanted
to release it. And then we then we started doing
our own tours. When indy that's a debate we have

(23:53):
here versus being independent. I mean Motown they were at
the time, you know they were, Yeah, it was an
indie that that had major But we talked about the
debate where there's major label versus independent. And I'm always
saying independent owning your stuff, that's the way to go,
right versus the mayne give me the money. I don't
want to work that hard. You got the money, go

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independent from Motown and you took what you learned and
you put it to work. That's correct. And the record
that we have about now on the album we haven't
out now it is independent. Wow. Um, this is just
something I was trying to say earlier because I think
I've seen footage of you guys at Sam Cook one day,

(24:33):
and I think that what they were saying was they
wouldn't let the brothers or the brothers and assistants on
one side of the club. So you and Sam Cook,
I think y'all got on the bus and then left.
Oh I don't know about that. I think that, but
that's happened with someone else, Okay, but Sam Cook, I
think that happened with Jackie Wilson, Okay, okay, on the

(24:56):
two together. Yeah. So so what how how hard was
that back then because like, like you know, there was
a segregation, like how could you perform? You know, it
was very hard, but you know, ruarde young after age,
we didn't really understand it. You know, we didn't understand

(25:17):
that somebody would kill you or somebody you know, you know,
we always start run. You know, how old were you guys?
Exactly around I was abound eighteen, you know, kids yeah, yeah,
damn man, seventeen eighteen on the road. And that had

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to be like a crazy because all the times that
black people were going through, and then people taking political
stances like Muhammad Ali and things like that, and then
and then Sam Cook and then like all these people
like I just always you know, it was crazy back then.
We didn't have television to get out of our message
or Sam Cook, you stopped them. It's like, give me

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your ticket, don't you know? Wow, If you don't gonna
give me a ticket, put the chicken on. You know,
I'm saying Cook I said, was saying, yeah, he cleared,
he cleared. Woman. Oh my god, man, I'm so excited.
Wasn't taking anything off anyone. So that's probably one of

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you know, wow. But after you guys decided to go independent,
you did go with major neighbors later on, Yeah, what
what what was those distributions for distributions so still owning
taking advantage of the machine at that point. That's all right, right, right,
that's all right because there were so many cases of

(26:42):
like people being taking an advantage of and and that time,
was that something you guys ever experienced? Yeah, well, you know,
I think Philadelphia International was was going then and then
later on Curtis Mayfield and this company out of Chicago.
It's going then movetown and our company, you know, and

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Stacks came a little later. Now, let's let's address this.
This is yours, right, Yeah, what is this? Sexy ass bottle?
Kanac thirty five years old? Thirty five year old? Hun yeah,
got them look at that. This is a sexy ass bottle? Old, okay,

(27:28):
baron select, Yeah, we're messing with that for a little
while out sometimes this year. Look, that's a sexy as bottle.
Make sure they focusing on that, the sexy ass bottle.
Look at that. It looked like it looked like a
person like me ain't posed to had this. Because it's
gonna I'm gonna break it. I'm gonna break especially him.
He can't hold nothing. Oh look see damn this that's
a back rock bottle. Yeah, this is class for sidified.

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He's looking coming into the back of rock bottle. You
got two o them? What's that? What's this? This? This?
Uh will be? This is I think this is forty
years old. Okay, Yeah, and that's a that's a Kanyak tool. Yes, okay,
let me let me check that out okay. Oh the

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sexy too. So what's Baron select? It's a company that
uh uh he's a dentist. Uh. His his family died
and left him the whole company in French. Okay, and
uh he knows all of our songs from the beginning
to the end. And we've been talking together for about

(28:39):
over three or four years, and we decided to come
with these, you know. And they named the uh Kanyak
got to me And yeah, that signature right there is
right there, look at that right there. Yeah, and so
uh it will be out sometime sometimes this year, okay.

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And then we're gonna give the van the fans a
chance to be a part of that, the liquor too. Yeah,
have them, have them sit with you me and Greek
shit like that. Yes, my damn holy motion. You said
they're gonna be a part of the liquor house, Like
it's gonna be a stock company. So they're gonna they're
gonna be able to participate in owning it. That's amazing,

(29:24):
like the Green Bay Packers, Okay, something like that. The
only only sports people got that got that, like an
NFT I don't like, what's the other bottle there? Scotch.
Oh you got a Scotch too. Yeah, Oh okay, I'm
a Japanese whiskey guy. That's still close to it. It's

(29:47):
eighteen years ye look at that all three sexy bottles
all and look this is your ship, right, that's what
you You gotta taste that. Yeah, okay, that's the car.
Yeah guy right there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you want
to take that, Kanye, come on. In fact, we're gonna
we're gonna go into quick Time with Slime. We got
a part of that game where we take shots to

(30:08):
the show. You don't have you guys have to take shots.
But he could be your sacrifice shot. Take it right there.
He could be your sacrifice liver liver donor Yes, we
got quick time with Slime. Ready sending it over? Okay, cool? Yeah,
the bottom whichever one. Yeah, Sunny's don't touch that bocka
ron Now he worked. I'm telling y'all that that's my friend.

(30:31):
That's my friend, that type. We don't let him drink
the spade either, so you don't feel bad. Don't feel bad.
I'm killing that. I'm killing that, all right. Cool, drink
for them, Yeah, Sunny, we drink for y'all. So y'all
we can take a shots. You don't have to take
the shots. Okay, you got it, I got it all right.
You want to splay them the game? If so, we're

(30:52):
gonna give you two choices. Um, you pick one, none
of us drink. If you pick both, are neither the
policeically correct answer. We're all drinking. Yeah, we're gonna drink. Yeah,
we drink with him. We didn't leave him out. Okay,
you want to start it off. He let it go. Hell,
you're ready. Yes, the Beatles are the rolling Stones Beatles. Frip.

(31:18):
You got a different answer, you know. I'm just saying, Okay,
I like that biggie or twopop Biggie up. You gotta
drink and disagreed. We got we gotta drink. We gotta
drink too. I got damn any reason why. You can

(31:39):
explain why if you want to, Well, we like him,
like yes, yeah, if he had to said biggie, I
would have said too, that's beautiful, that's beautiful. Would have
kept the peace. Okay, but we gotta take a shot.
You gotta take a shot too. I'm waiting for my shot.
Come on, man, I don't get paid someone here that

(32:01):
they do to get here. Man, come you got your shot?
Oh here, boring your I told you I'm not independent, Yes,
lesson give me my major budget. I am not an
independent guy. I was just playing, all right, Nicholas Good, Yeah,
you go go take that one. Jimmy Hendricks or Santana, Santana.

(32:23):
I gotta say, Jimmy Hendricks, Hey, y'all doing this practice? Jimmy.
You know. I met Jimmie Hendricks after my brothers hired him.
I was eleven years old. And uh, after the Beatles
did that first show on as Sullivan not too long
after that, my brother Kelly brothers had a meeting and uh,

(32:45):
he said, uh, these guys from Britain, it's Beatles things.
There's no hype, this is real. They got two guitar players,
but we got Jimmy. And that was just the way
he said. It looked over Jimmy when he said that,
and Jimmy was grinning ear to eat. So I imagine
if Jimmy had been around when that lady came out,
he would have given me something between a bear hug

(33:07):
and the tackle and say, how did you ever learn
how to do that? And one he was in the
dining room, man he was in the dining room plan,
you was in the living room plan. I was listening that, Jimmy,
it was so great eating Santana. Hold on, what did
you just say? You just said the good say did
you just say they got two good tall players? But

(33:28):
we m Jimmy and that was right? That was right,
h Santana would say, crazy, yeah, but yeah, and I'm
crazy about Carlos too. Yeah, he's fabulous musician. Is there

(33:52):
any truth that Jimmy didn't know how to write the music?
You know? I don't know if Jimmy knew he was
that they're good, because every day he walked around where
they had a guitar or not a stick in his hand,
just stick. I see you still walked in with a
gut tar just now, yeah, well have to do that.

(34:16):
Come on, It's like that's uh, it's another link for you.
Great sense of contentment and emotional security. Uh, crazy about
the instrument. Wow, that's commitment to the crowd. A lie um.
I so enjoy when you walked in with the guitar,

(34:37):
because I was like, yes, it's like it's like you
want to see for the guitar. You want to see Santana.
And then you see you walk into them like he
did it. I'll be I want to see my heroes
with their caps on, you know what I mean. I'm sorry.
I want to ansk one question, Yes, please, How did
you guys come up with this show? Man? It shows

(34:58):
so great? We we were getting drunk about the studio
and he would play poker and I would recall it
records and we would come out the end of the
night and we would just see, um, who would who
would be lasted and we would call them drink champs.
But beyond that, really what the show was about was
us being disgusted when people, you know, have you know,

(35:21):
this longevity in the game. And then in our culture
they have this word called washed up. And I hate
this word because that doesn't exist in no other culture.
No other culture says, well they're washed up and roller
stones and you know these guys what these guys what
they kiss when they face they go on tour forever
and they talus it's don't change and everything. No, nobody

(35:43):
don't even care. Like but you know, and their culture
they can do that, Like why we can't do that
in our culture and not imitate them. We be who
we are and that's what I wanted to do. I
wanted to praise, you know, people such as yourself, because
you guys deserve to be praised and believe it or not,
shit Without y'all guys, music, y'all foundation, this show doesn't exist.

(36:07):
You know what I'm saying him? Oh yeah, if you
don't give me my shot though, right, him as a
DJ doesn't exist, me as an artist and doesn't exist.
And then us forming this platform together. Um, that's total amateurs.
By the way. It was just us wanting to have
conversations with icons and legends and our peers and get

(36:27):
these stories that we might have heard backstage or or
in the studio, but nobody else was hearing them. And
I agree with you being amateursts as far as media
and journalism go. But we were at amateurs right right
as far as fans and knowing the coach and knowing
how important people are and knowing that it takes nothing
away for me to praise you and tell you how
great great you guys are to your face, face to face,

(36:50):
man to man. It takes nothing away from me. In fact,
it get ads on to me because it makes me
a better man, because I know where I came from
I know really yeah, I feel like I feel good
about that to make a shot. Drink that drink that
major label shot. You're gonna make sure I take that, okay,

(37:12):
all right? Cool? Um oh, I like this one ice
cube switch I'm telling jay Z tomorrow, I just playing.
Um oh, I like this one ice cube or Snoop Dog?
Oh man, you answer? Oh uh, I'll say ice cube

(37:37):
footsteps in the Dark song I wrote. That's right, that's right,
he sampled, and uh, I know, uh the there's a
video game GTA that uses Footsteps in the dark. Go ahead,

(37:58):
and I cu today what's a good thing? And then
it's still isile. Some people know it, you know, from
Easley and some people know it from him. So you know,
I Snoop Dog. You know, Snoop Dog is the number one.

(38:19):
Is the number this honestly tell whole the truth. Snoop Dog,
out of all the rappers is the number one rapper.
God dam gonna take a shot for that. Take a shot.
And and you know what's crazy, Shopper Snoop as a

(38:40):
barbecue every year. I love to be as barbecues. And
then I always look at the DJ because they're gonna
play one version. They're gonna play the biggie version version.
Now you know now with the rappers down, people like
jay Z, people like uh, the the guy I wanted

(39:04):
to when the war would those guys are so great, incredible,
it's so great you listening at the lyrics and of
some of the new rappers now you know, just and
the fastness. I mean, my brother in law had to

(39:24):
let me know about how great uh Kendrick, No, what's
the he' he raps faster, bust A ryndust around. I
mean I looked at bust A rynds not let's words

(39:47):
come out that game and you know, so I want
to give them all the credit they deserve. Many I
have to say too, when you guys start talking about
this person of that person, they both have to be
at the table. That's that's why I both deserved trying

(40:07):
to check him and just get drunk. Now, you know,
it's it's really hard to say what you want ye
snoop or you want ice c and be like, oh
now it's a trick. Qust do it to get guests drunk.
But y'all ogs, we we can't try to give you
our shots and things like that unless y'all want it,
but we're gonna get he gonna get um how you

(40:29):
call it, how you call it when you were spoke
a cigarette. Second, he gonna get second hand drunk. For y'all,
you know when we bring up the two names, because
we respect both, yea respect, So we just want to
have these conversations around these names. What if they like me? Man,
they look listen at your show every day I know
they've been listening. Will come out of my mouth because man,

(40:51):
I'll be listening to that everything. But this is one
of my favorite questions and stories. If we can story
with both, if you have if I with either with
both MJ or Prince m J, I like how you
said that. I have no problem with that. Okay, you

(41:12):
got a Michael Jackson's story. Oh man, tons, she's a
Michael Jackson and Prince asked a great talent, great talent,
which said Prince. So I just want to make sure
if this was the way it was going, I kind
of say, Michael Jackson, Okay, Michael Jackson was a king
of all. Yeah right, yeah, to tell us something Michael

(41:35):
Jackson stories tell you. Okay, we were at a CBS
Driking convention in seventy eight, and I came down and
when Robael came down after me, you know, I didn't know,
you know, that we were gonna both go or for
a time or whatever. But when we got when I

(41:56):
came into the room, I noticed that there was this
group of people all in like pale blue took sedos.
It turned out that it was the Jackson's and there
was this a little girl that had a pale Michael
and it was Janet. Janet. She was a little you know.

(42:17):
And I sat down at the table and I wasn't
there too long and somebody tapped me on my arm
and I turned around. It was Michael Hither. I said, hey, Mike,
how you doing? Man? He said, I ready for I

(42:39):
sit down. Come on, he handle thing. And we said
that for a little bit, and uh he said, um,
any d he could introduce me to your brother Ronald.
I said, come on, Michael, he knows you. You know him.
You know he's not gonna buys you in that light tan. Yeah,

(43:01):
but he might be busy you're thinking about. I said, okay,
I'll go over and ask him. So it's like something
out the Godfather. So I'll walk over to my brother
and I say, Michael Jackson wants to come over and
sit at the table with you, isn't all right? Ronald says,

(43:23):
it's all right. So I go back to my table
and I literally take Michael Jackson by his hand, like
he's six years old, and I'm walking him across the street.
And I walked him up to Ronald's table and I
say something like Michael Jackson, Ronald eis Ronald Eisley, Michael Jackson,

(43:44):
and the three of us just bust out laughing, you know,
and then I go away and I leave him, the
two of him, they're sitting at the table, and let
Ronald tell you the rest. Well, he was just such
an a Mira meet and why how did songs and

(44:05):
this Latin? But uh, later as time went on and
on and on. You know, hey, if if I'm in
any town that they have a show or of Michael
Jackson on film, I'll stop to watch that show. And uh,

(44:25):
me and my wife was in New York and and
and and this color that uh the one, uh Grammy
or something. It's Tony Man. This show was one of
the greatest shows I ever you know, I ever watched.
You know, Uh, we went back stage and talked to

(44:48):
everybody that on the owner that were on the show.
And you know which if you ever get a chancecle
in in New York, uh to see the show that
they're present, which Michael Jackson, it will explain everything to you.
And then yeah, I just playing Michael Jackson. We just
want to play. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, you wouldn't yeah, yeah, yeah,

(45:11):
someone people talking about that. Yeah, it's so great, man,
it's so great. I'm glad that he wanted a Tony,
but it would it wouldn't be no doubt in your
mind where where the Tony was going to go to? No.
I heard that, that's crazy. I heard. I think I
heard Erica about due to see it, and I was

(45:34):
just like, oh, I was like really yeah wow? And
how old was he when that introduction was made? Michael?
I was twenty six? You were and Michael, uh, he
would have been I said twenty He would have been
about twenty twenty. It's more nineteen fifty eight when you

(45:54):
first made the voice. I picture Jackson five. Michael, that's
the same, like we know when he was talking, that's
how he But he seemed as a kid. He seemed
like he had an old soul. Oh yeah, yeah, but
that was how he was and you know and where
he uh just presented himself, you know, and and that

(46:14):
was him and and the rest of his brothers, you
know when I first came in, hen you know and
all that. And then Ronald told me later on that
he saw them all going to a huddle and then
Michael came out of the huddle and came to my table.
And then that's wow the conversation because the story is
fucking awesome. Back cool, but I'm cooling at all. This

(46:38):
is awesome. Have you ever met Prince Prince? Yes? Good,
and just for the record, you met Michael. There's no
white glove right, not that time, like later on he
put on the white glove. Okay, boom and Prince is
this asked out Prince or the all I'm asking was
somewhere somewhere, um a club that was on Sunset in California,

(47:04):
not the Roxy, not the Roxy. And Prince was like
he was kind of big then, you know, and uh
with with Eddie Murphy and he introduced us. You know,
Prince was kind of you know, you know, you know,
like you was into showing this thing. You know. It

(47:27):
sounds like yo, man, you guys live real dope. Like, man,
I'll just be an honest. You want to take over
the Yeah yeah, James Brown or Rick James James Brown,

(47:48):
James James James would tell you that. I'll tell you.
I tell you. I want you to play this right.
I tell you the one story I met James Brown.
I said this on the stroke before I'm walking the
red carpet and I'm realizing, um, like you know, James
has his nephew or like like I don't know someone,

(48:10):
and he goes, Yo, that's that's that's noriega, that's a rapper.
And James just turns his goals keep sampling my ship
on the red carpet in front of everybody. He just
turned it. I guess lady must have told him I'm
a rapper and he's just like, man, I love rappers, y'all.
Keeping my ship alive and that's just he just pointed
at me in my face, sat keep sampling my ship.

(48:31):
And I was like, we'll do. But who was the
James Brown's Rick James and Rick James. You know James Brown.
We were the first people that he would let come
in this dressing room without you know, going through the changes,
calling him, you know, mister Brown and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(48:57):
that wasn't there. I'm talking about the early earlier days.
You know. Yeah, somebody standing outside, you know, and you
did come to see him. You know, he had come
into dressing room, you know, and when we came up,
came up to the door, was like that, you know,
keep the door open. Of course though it was you guys,

(49:18):
but well, I don't know, you know, James, like he's
really you know, a different type of individual. Yeah, yeah,
he was craze. That's like into the persona of being
James Brown might be, you know, but uh, James, James

(49:43):
knew what he could do. He really knew what he
could do. And uh, he was the first person to
tell us to have have your own band, get your
own make sure you got your own band playing your music,
you know, and that that and and that stuff with us.
You know, you got ahead, got Jimmy Hendricks and all

(50:04):
the band members we had. Yeah, that really stuck with us.
So if you didn't have your own band, what will
happen when you got to the clubs? The clubs will
playing the music for you. Yeah, we walk in and
try to rehearse something with whoever. Yeah, I can see
I can see that. That's like, let's like hire the
DJ when you land. You don't know, man, DJ is

(50:25):
cool with it. The DJ start instrument. Yeah, But do
you have a Rick game story? Rick James? Man, I
liked I liked your face. I can say I saw
Rick James at Madison Square Garden when he had I'll

(50:46):
give It to my brabite and very very dynamic show.
I was surprised he was not playing the bass. He
was more or less singing and it was a great,
great show. And I remember not too long after that,

(51:06):
he was in Philadelphia, I think at the Spectrum and
he had sold out like three consecutive nights, and they
said he had collapsed on stage. And when I heard that,
I said, you know, like Rick, you're having a lot
of fun, but man, you're gonna have to get your
rest because I know it's a party, you know, Yeah,

(51:29):
You're gonna have to you know. Uh. And he was
a big fan, he's a big Minis fan. Were in
California in Vegas, Yeah, Vegas, I mean twout the years.
I'm gonna get back to quick Time of Slime. Throughout

(51:49):
the years, what was some some of the craziest people
that's a fans. I mean, obviously everyone is a fan
of y'all because you know what I mean, But it
was there someone that um that was that was y'all
was shocked off of being a fan. Oh, let me
think Johnny Mathis. Johnny Mathis with my first meetings of

(52:15):
Johnny Mathis was that Alan Freed show and Johnny Mathis
was taking uh Jackie Wilson places because Jackie Wilson he
gotten shot and you know, and uh, Johnny Mathis will
go out there saying, but people were screaming so loud

(52:36):
when he was saying, and you can stopped, you know,
and you told us, yell you they've made an announcement
with you guys stopped with the girls stopped screaming so
they to the audience could hear the song. It's not

(52:57):
then you can hear. I thought that was like, you're
gonna tell all these people have stopped screaming, so you
but man, that's how you know, That's how he was
that you know, got there makes some noise that trick
outside the head where we got Yeah, other good one,

(53:20):
Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Oh, Wow, that's the time, say
all night, I would say, that's a time. Want a
story about him? Anything? Um when uh Marvin and Tammi

(53:45):
Terrella had Alton, Ain't no Mountain High, Ain't no Hello. Uh,
my eldest brother said, I think Marvin Gaye in town
and he's gonna come by the house. And we had
a swimming pool party. This is on a Saturday, noise

(54:07):
of my mother's house. And it turned out that he
did come by and uh, he's just you know, out
of respecting to say hello and all that stuff, and
he was trying to leave, you know. After he got there,
he's like, man, yeah. Kelly was like, man, where are
you trying to go? Let me introduce you. This is

(54:27):
Ernie and this is Marvin. He said, y'all have a
brother named Marvin. Say yeah, this is Marvin Isisley. He'd
liked that, and that was one of the things that
sort of encouraged in the state and say, you know, well,
the only record we were playing in the backyard was
Ain't No Man in Huh of him and Tommy Arrell.
He came back through the gate and that record was blasting.

(54:52):
Everybody froze. Everybody when they saw him, and somebody said
that's more than gay, and a pandemonium broke own. People
coming out the pool. He's signed an autographs your pool
party's preside pictures, you know, and then he uh, Then

(55:17):
he was trying to still leave and Kelly said, fixed
him to play. He ain't going over. Yeah. Yeah, we
had barbecue, you know, all that stuff, tATu sala, and
he wound up staying. That was around uh like eleven
or so in the morning. He wound up staying till
about midnight. Wow. And he sat down at the piano

(55:38):
in the living room voicing piano and played if this
World Were Mine? Incredible. There's grown women in there doing
this tearing up. Yeah, it was that dynamic of a
of a lot of performing is Stevie Wonder? I can

(56:01):
say for myself. When we first came to California to
record what was Gonna be three plus three, we came
down to the studio and Stevie Wonder was in there
singing a song called Don't You Worry About the Thing?
We were hearing it cold incredible and when the engineers
and he couldn't quite find himself, but he was trying

(56:23):
to do and one of the engineers said, Stevie Osley
Brothers are here. He sang it from the middle all
the way out to the end, and you know his
his contribution to music is just incredible, unspeakable, and nobody
can up in front the eye. But then one of

(56:50):
the songs we did out there was something called that
Lady and some of the breeze and listen to the
music and uh, don't let me be lonely tonight under
the that's some really dynamic tracks on three plus three?
Who was that Lady about? Originally as wrong as I did? Wow?

(57:13):
And uh, he told me, because this woman to this
day about no. He told me and told me when
we're gonna go out we're gonna go out there years old.
And I said, man, you know that was done as
a cho Boston Nova. And he said, huh, we're gonna
change the melody, we're gonna change the temple, we're gonna
change the lyric, and you are gonna play a lead

(57:35):
guitar on it. And I was like, okay, you know,
and uh, you know, we went out there and did
what we did, and you know you kind of like say,
like the rest is history, It's three is great and
literally at the end, he was like, what a fortunate

(57:58):
with any of the stories, With any of these stories,
I know whether or not I'm talking about it or
whether Ronald was talking about it. He could go on, yes,
because we're giving you like the microwave version. Yeah, the
quick version. We're good with that. H because you have
no idea how I mean, obviously you do, but yeah,
y'all both do. Everyone does hit because your history is

(58:20):
so rich, like like, oh to me, it's like whatever
they call the people, the Queen and the King of
Elizabeth like that. But the royal royalty, y'all. Royal family, yes,
not just stays version of royal family. You going to
the next quick, let's go public enemy or n wam tie.

(58:47):
I agree, I Sundy take your shot. We all of
us gonna take. Look. I'm looking running behind over him
man with that club. I get a pass, I get
a bas yo. Listen, we're gonna we're gonna disclaimer right now,

(59:14):
the Oddsy Brothers are not responsible for wherever Sunny drinks
and just not make it home tonight, just not playing
the alcohol. Do not blame the alcohol. The alcohol is
just fine. You It came with a bocket rock, but
it was smart enough to give you the run, and
I respect they shut up, Sunny. He brought me that

(59:34):
that baba, which I'm a drink in one of the
next episodes is Haitian rum is. It's great. I don't
recommend that. No, that's great. No, I drink it in Hey, next,
quick time, my son, let's go um. Well, no any
stories with public m or NWA the four qube left.
Did you enter any interactions with that group? What about

(59:54):
some women? Man? We were scared when the Houston Okay, Franklin, Yeah,
I'll take that. Payla Bill reread the Franklin Franklin, the
Franklin yes, and Patty Houston Patty, it's great too. Still

(01:00:18):
it's my girl. She's well Patty would say that Franklin, Yes,
she would. That's why I would saying that's what I
love the old g accent answer star would he. I
love it. I love it, and our crew putting no
more women on this list. That's that's the that's the

(01:00:40):
Columbia and Dominican over there, that's Columbian domic We all
married men, so we'd be scared to ask con and
name somebody. I'm saying shy males Beatty White, Connor, Winnie Houston,

(01:01:00):
Whendy Houston, even though it's a little different. But yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
You see what Stephanie Mills is going through right now.
She says something about to Be High. They ain't like it.
You cannot say nothing about to be leave it alone.
It's well known fact. And I say nothing about Beyonce.

(01:01:23):
Everybody knows it. It's like the mafia. We don't discuss it.
We just follow the rules. And but Stephanie Mills held
held it down. She went to the riversh clubs. She
held it down. She didn't back down. She just said
that she thought that, you know, Beyonce was excuse me that,
um um, Diana Ross was on a different level than Beyonce.

(01:01:47):
And we all understand what she meant, but for how
it was expressed was like, you can't say nothing about Beyonce,
like and in this day and era, like you know, um,
you know, God bless you guys. You guys didn't have Instagram,
but I'm telling you you luck it Instagram. It's some
crazy like oh my god, I just go on Twitter
just to be negative sometimes, like I just need an

(01:02:08):
ounce of negativity. So I'll just go on there and
be like, hey, how's everyone doing. People like fuck you.
I'm like I said, I I didn't do nothing wrong
to offend you. I mean, it's the wild, wild West.
I swear to God, I literally will go out there
and just say hi, just to just to and never
say I'll come up with one. Okay, I'll come up

(01:02:34):
with just one. Okay, with all due respect. The greatest
male singer in the history of rock and roll. It's
my brother wrong. You look, you look at the resume,
you listen to it. The catalog nobody I'm the Beatles

(01:02:56):
copied the Osley Brothers shout and twisting shown you know,
so John Lynn was copying what my brother wrong. And
they had no problem telling you that, right, they didn't job,
you know, but that that would be one of the things.
I would let me take a shot for that. Damn,
I'll take the best. I'll take the shot the best stop.

(01:03:17):
Michael Jackson copied him. I'm sure listening. Go on, yeah, everybody,
that's that's what's so beautiful about. That's why he was
sitting at the table talking to him right, trying to
get some pointers. You know, you can'tbody can't nobody hang
with this man, no no, and we're brothers. Good god

(01:03:43):
him who him a guitar man. He's gonna be a
good talk yo. But I'm not gonna lie to you.
That's what I don't know. Someone said this earlier. But
that's what's so beautiful about you guys is I've never

(01:04:04):
seen you guys be dated. Like you know, you guys
can fit into any genre and every genre will sit
there and respect you. I said that, right, and I
keep like i' We've been doing this show for like,
you know, seven years, and you know, so every time
I have a person and I'll call other people to

(01:04:25):
see if if you know, people want to participate in
and in the interview, all give me some pointers, give
me something. When I tell you everybody answers for y'all, wow,
Like there's certain people they're like, man, I got some
sus They're like mh, they don't because they don't want
to be a part of the interview. They don't want
to help out or whatever I want. I talking about
everybody that I call sincerely, was like, those brothers deserve

(01:04:48):
their flowers, and those brothers deserve the legendary status that
they have. And we'll be with moors. We'll be remiss
not to tell y'all how much y'all do deserve that,
how much important y'all are to this coach. And not
just hip hop, No, not just hip hop, hip cultural
And I don't want to say anything. It's bigger than
the hip hop or anything's bigger than music. But sometimes

(01:05:10):
it's even bigger than music, because every single movie that
you watched with a little bit of soul got your
soul in it. No, for I'm like, God, I'm watching
bread and Crashes. I'm like, showt my holy shit hoop

(01:05:38):
what's his name? Bitch? Var bitch where he's trying to
put his soul on that said? Bitch? Bard did great?
But no, no, hey, they put twist on it. This
is such beautiful basketball games. The stories you know, that
ship is everywhere. You really made universal. I heard you

(01:06:03):
say something one time, and you said the music will
outlive I forget how how y'all put it. Was pull
for y'all, the music will outlived the legend, right or
something like that. Forget how y'all how y'all put it?
And I got one record that I've ever made that's
bigger than me. Right, and this more than somebody was

(01:06:26):
in the club one day and he was singing my
song after he stepped on my shoe. He didn't know
what I mean, he's singing my ship. This in me,
I was offended, but in the site, but I was
always also like, go ahead, keep singing that. I could imagine.

(01:06:52):
I can imagine y'all catalog. There has to be people
that actually sing y'all shit in this parbaby like, man,
you haven't had that experience. You know. I was watching
the football, not the Super Bowl game, not just any
football game. And now they did the commercial with the

(01:07:13):
kids you know who you made me run and the
commercial kids was getting married, and yeah, I think that's
gonna gonna win something that you too. But but they
do our songs and every every Super Bowl and even
even even the rappers did, uh every every rapper when

(01:07:38):
the doctor dre Ye and all the rapper was up there. Yeah,
when I'm sorry, did you say they play your songs
every Super Bowl? Oh? Yeah, yeah that is you know
when when that was nobody the tower, when back when

(01:08:01):
uh Barack Obama was president elect and was sitting in
front of the Lincoln Memorial, Garth Brooks was out there
with acoustic guitar. He put his guitar down, he took
his hat off, and I'm watching this on CNN and

(01:08:22):
he said where. I was like, oh my god, in
front of the Lincoln Memorial and know your mabement wounded,
came back. Here go my hand back, and the audience
and the president elect was and Joe Biden, who was
vice president, and the wives, and I was like, good god,

(01:08:46):
that song boy, everybody knows you. It's it's gonna live forever. Yeah,
I mean I mean that, you know what's crazy. Some
people are blessed to have one of those records. Some
people are blessed to have two them. Recons said at
beer minim, I mean that maximum people aren't blessed to

(01:09:06):
have three of them. Y'all got like seventeen. I can't go.
I was like, wait a minute. They never not make
it like I'm I don't look at like go and
I'm like, that's that's a blessing, yoll dress a blessing.
Like like for let me ask you, what was your

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first taste of someone doing a cover of your music?
Was it, I mean, as big as it got? Was it?
The Beatles? Uh? The shout? Uh? What's covered by What's
the Girl. Joey d In The Starliners did a whole
a version of Shout back in the around nineteen sixty

(01:09:53):
one or so, and I remember watching the show that
Joy d and the Starlights on the same show A
Star and She Brothers and the Osley Brothers were closing
this show with Shout and enjoy ding. The Starlighters had
Outshout and they were doing it in front of its like,
but the audience was still more so with the isles.

(01:10:14):
When then Kelly Rudolf and did it so well Lulu
had a number version and the number one record of England. Yeah,
that was the first record we ruled that had a
cover we wrote. I wrote another song called Nobody with
Me and it was the number one song went to

(01:10:36):
Human Beings and they played out at the Super Bowl too,
you know. So that was the first cover shout Nobody
with Me. But that was the first songs I wrote,
you know, the first songs. And at the beginning of
the of a legacy that's being covered and covered and

(01:10:58):
it goes on the next I wrote that the guy
wanted to give us half of it. The song was
a twisting shot and we said no, you're going and
you keep that, you know, not knowing that it would
be the monster monster later? You know that was that
considered rock and roll or doop? What was that consider

(01:11:20):
at that time? Well, little Richard was doing a good God,
miss Molly, you know little rock and roll here the
beginning of rock and roll. Yeah, him and Chuck Berry.
Yeah so so so y'all wasn't considered rock and rollers
considered no, I think, and I don't think that was

(01:11:41):
slaying on b. Then. We didn't even have a name
for the Johan. It was just dope. It was just fine.
They called it rock and roll, but you know that good?
But uh, I don't I don't remember them all in
songs R and B R right, ligand and blues but

(01:12:06):
like do you like the term from R and B
or I don't care what term they called as the
baby making as long as they played and music gets
music man, music gets music man. Uh. They kind of
put it put it in categorious, you know, and box it. Yeah,
but yeah, and box you in with it. Right. But

(01:12:32):
the Lord has we know why our blessing come from.
This is Jesus christy you know? So um, because like
when I used to make music. People just come up
to me and be like I did. I went to
jail for your ship. I realized I didn't want me
to say it, but I was like, what would you

(01:12:56):
want me to do? Yeah, exact, because your music is different.
It wasn't right, it wasn't right right, But come up
to y'all gotta be like I had a baby because
of you? How how how how how beautiful is that?
Because it makes you really really feel good, really feel

(01:13:19):
good all the use Oh you did right? Yeah? Sometimes
they I've had guys come up to me and say, hey, man,
I love y'all's music, but I got in trouble because
of y'all. Know what you're talking about? Because I put
that song don't say good night yeah, over and over again.

(01:13:42):
I want to see see what you like liking big
It's like, oh my good you gotta be a saving
can be a stalker, gonna take that song different. Yes,
that's very true. Don't think right now. We our music
has UH. It has a lot of romance in it,
and it was one of the probably our catalogs wanted

(01:14:05):
to go to catalogs when it comes to UH, men
and women being together in the intimate fashion and date whatever,
which is a wonderful thing. It was crazy because I
always used to say this, two genres of music that
you can play loud and no one will ever get offended.
And at first I thought it was just uh, reggae

(01:14:30):
and salsa. But this past a couple of months, me
knowing that I had y'all book, I kept playing y'all
music loud as hell and in front of the white
folks and no one can playing And I said, but
then I said, it's Isley Broughs, the own genre of music.
Do y'all prolong South, because that's that's really he ever

(01:14:56):
been on the Caribbean, the island and they playing at
the Calypso when they playing, no one's offended by the
words no one. And then if you go to like
la I'm gonna half part the weekend and you play
certain and then and then I just realized it was
also your music. You can play it woud. I'm talking
about like, you know, the levels of the people like

(01:15:17):
they don't do that with y'all ship and they're like, oh,
it's really baby making music. It's not offensive. Fact, did
y'all did y'all know that? I know that now you know,
we'd be something. We'd be somewhere on the island I
remember not too long ago, and it's live band hits. Wow. Wow,

(01:15:46):
you know we should where over here and then where
over they hell land something you can hear it like
loud and clear, Like that's wonderful, wonderful to have something
like that happened. What's one thing that that that you
regret not taking advantage of in this game? If anything?
If any say that again, one thing that you regret
not taking advantage of, Like is there an opportunity you

(01:16:12):
let pass by that you should have, like, yeah, we
are to have a core unions like I get back
with you. Oh I remember, uh the House the Um
Blues Brothers they are. They wanted us to perform in
that movie r White Guys Blues brother you know, and

(01:16:36):
and and then we turned it down and they use
another groups. Uh let me take with someone else. I
would kind of regret that. And and they wanted wanted
to use one of our records and uh uh the

(01:16:59):
movie he uh ninety the ninety Oh yeah, the Beach's
Saturday Night Fever. They wanted to use tell Me When
You Need It again from the goal for your guns
job and now but you are hallm um, hallm uh

(01:17:20):
the golf Father, right you You ain't that right now?
Oh yeah? Oh yeah yeah yeah. The Blues Brothers. Yeah
you came back home. Oh man, I'm so excited. Man.
So let me ask you generationally the decade wise, is
there a decade that stands out to you musically that

(01:17:43):
that you feel like it was just for you guys?
This was where you guys were hip hop inspired the
most nineties right hip hop only. I'm saying that, like
any decade out of your whole career, is there any
decade that you feel or time frame that you feel
this was the most inspirational for whatever was happening at
the time or for you guys personally? I would I

(01:18:11):
would say, uh, the decade that all of us was together,
all the brothers that were together, you know, and after
after h my one, my oldest brother passed, it became
very difficult and for me, uh, but the fun, the real, real,

(01:18:32):
real fun was when everyone was together. Everyone's together, we're
all together, and take something else. I thought that the
music that we were doing, um, it might have been
starting from like work to do well actually started from

(01:18:52):
it's your thing. I've from It's your Thing to like
between the Sheets and eighty three sixty nine to eighty three,
I thought, especially when we got three plus three going forward,
those albums were double platinum and that Lady Fighter Power

(01:19:14):
take Me to the next phase whatever, I thought, they
would have been bigger wow. But by way of technology
and when they went into the MTV hip hop rap,
those songs came back to us in a way I

(01:19:35):
would have never imagined, so that I love it when
you're calling me a big pop or today was a
good day. I didn't have to use my AK or
see you went to crossroads and that was to make
me say it again. Those songs came back in a
way that I would have never imagined, so that Okay,

(01:19:57):
we may have done double platinum as the Eyes Brothers,
but if when you put all the other stuff on top,
it was probably like four or five million, you know
sales per album because of those songs, and um, because
they say that that you know albums are you talking
about her? Are now are three million? You know? Three

(01:20:19):
plus three lifted up Heat is on Harvest of the World. Yeah,
go count it all up, go for your guys show down.
But he owns all the way. Yeah, he doesn't had
fight the power for the love of you. Uh, and
make Me Say It Again girl. They had the slow side,
which at that time was you mean, they got a

(01:20:41):
jam side. But you flipped this record over and it's
all slow songs and people were just in the game time.
Just flipped the record over and you for the love
of you, you know, followed by sensuality, followed by make
Me Say the Again. Girls. A great, great record, win
number one, first number one album for us. And listen,

(01:21:02):
this was all motel though. This was no this was eyesless,
this teenack. You know. Remember they went indie quick, don't
get in twisted? You still waiting for your major label
shot check oly shit man, oh hold on. So we're
gonna take a quick breakcause I'm gonna use a bathroom. Girl,

(01:21:23):
I use the bathroom. I'm god, okay, you gotta use
a bath ho finally take a bathroom break. That killer

(01:22:29):
all right, So listen, we're gonna wrap up this quick
time with slime. You got a couple more questions. Um,
analog or digital? M h wow, both of them. I
think in some ways the analog may have a warmer sound. Uh,

(01:22:50):
Digital may have a somewhat clearer cleaner, right, cleaner is
that that's not always good? No, he's so clean, right,
it's not always So you're going analog. If you're going analog,
take a shot for that. It's your thing. But I
love analog. I love the rails when you had to
walk around with the reels and it felt like he

(01:23:12):
was hard human being and like you know what I'm saying,
Like I love because that's the dirty sound came out
like when but digital it's almost like it's clean before
the evening, like you know what I mean, Like you guys,
I love that. We mentioned on Drink Chance but DJ
Quick he had he did an interview, um I think
with Televequali and he mentioned that he felt an analog

(01:23:35):
picked up the energy from the room. Oh yeah, I
agree with that. Keller used to put a nickel on
uh turntable to get that. That's that DJ ship. Let's
all right, soul training or American band standing. So you're

(01:23:57):
saying so strange too, I'm good. I'm with the Mike
Tyson or Ali Ali. We haven't drank, drank that's the
last one you got. We got the last one. This
is the last one. Gotta do the last one, the
last one that everyone thinks this is everyone thinks the

(01:24:20):
whole game is a trick question, but it kind of is,
but it isn't. It's always meant to let let the
artists loosen up. You know. We do this game to
let the artists loosen up so they can start saying things.
But pay homage that we're talking about. But really, this
is the only to me, it's not a trick question.
That that is a trick question. It's the last one.
It's loyalty or respect. Loyalty is gonna have respect in it,

(01:24:48):
and respects you're gonna have loyalty in it. That's what.
We can't really separate the two. They'll be they'll be together.
You know, they're they're intertwined. You know, if you have respect,
you're going to have loyalty. And how can you have loyalty? Whatever?
Was having respect? That's perfect. Wait, there's two people here, Okay,

(01:25:10):
well I don't I don't use that same man. Ok
We gotta drink. Okay, so let me get this, mamma,
So you're ready with it's lined up because we just
want to play, y'all. Some of that hit records that
y'allre responsible for indirectly, and we just want to jam

(01:25:30):
out a little bit with y'all a little bit. Yes,
there's no person on earth. I've never met him, and
I don't think these persons, this person exists that don't
respect to Isasley brothers and don't respect what you guys
have laid down musically, with integrity, with morals. We're having class. Oh,

(01:25:58):
I'm so honored man, to have you guys in our presence,
to have you guys here. Um, it's it's an honor.
Like you know, I'm trying to look for a word
that's better than honor, and I just keep thinking honorable.
But because my vocabulary is not that great, but my
heart is. And I want to really tell y'all, man,

(01:26:20):
you really birth a whole generation of hip hop ers,
people lovers of of great people that's responsible for you
as their parents, you know, because sometimes you musically people parents.
Sometimes you sometimes people don't have their their parents at

(01:26:41):
the household, and you know what they do, They go
put it in that cassette. You know, I'm old enough
to know about the tape of that and the aid
that and you know the CD player like just some
of these kids you put out a CD player like,
wait a minute, and I'm talking about and you know,
you are a lot of people's parents, and we want
to respect that and we want to salute you face

(01:27:04):
to face, man and man out of eye because a
lot of people tell you how great you are when
you're not around, and then when you're around, they want
to be in competition with you. All gave you five
or a hard way or something like that. And we
want to tell y'all, man, that's not what we all
over here, where we over here, it's people. We want
to show you respect. We want to show you love,
and we will show you gratitude, loyalty and everything because you,

(01:27:24):
guys truly deserve it. You are what I think about
when I think about legends, icons and you know, kings,
the epitome of what epitome artists. Let me listen make
some noise for that. Let me let me say something
like I often say, like, if you really into into music,

(01:27:46):
into culture and all this stuff, like it's okay not
to know because people forget, Oh you don't know the history,
you don't know this a younger generation or even ourselves,
it's it's it's okay not to know. But what I
toold it was not okay not to want to know,
you know, not to want to as a DJ digging
the crates. So when I would hear a sample and

(01:28:07):
I realized, oh, this is a sample, My job now
as a lover of music is where is this sample from?
And that's what I would always tell a younger generation, like,
it's not okay not to want to know. Don't be
ignorant to the history of what you're into. Right. But
but when we were talking really quick before and and

(01:28:29):
I think we can't get out of here. We're talking
about we're talking about one particular one was Contagious, because
Contentious had one hundred and nineteen million has the has
excuse me, a has that? You know that means motherfucker's
washing contagious that don't know the language. They are sitting

(01:28:49):
there like, how does it feel to have a record
that's big like that? Well, you know, in our show
we use we bring out furniture, were trying to bring
out a whole set, a whole house. The dude songs
like Busted and Contagious and that's my next question busted yes,

(01:29:13):
and you know, and the audience now if you on
on on your your phone, your your cell phone. They
have so many people doing busted. But you know, TikTok
on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing, and that's

(01:29:36):
a that's a one of the important parts of our
show every night, every night. You know, and uh, download
you know, men R Kelly did. Download video was one
of the first video that we took. We were here

(01:29:57):
four days to do it was right, hi queen okay,
and that was that was one of the great videos
at the time, Mark Kelly. They did I guess the
problems that started, but if you go back and look
at that video, that has to be one of the
great greatest filp hop videos. So I would like to say, yeah, please,

(01:30:24):
Mark Kelly is one of the greatest, greatest producer writers
that we have. You know. Uh, we didn't keep up
with what he did, right. He was always a gentleman
with us. Right. It was you could only speak on
what you were dealing with your right and um and

(01:30:47):
everybody knew, like you said, you guys are classic sidified. Um.
You know everyone knows that man, You know what I mean.
I'm glad that you addressed that I'm glad you addressed
it direct on because unless people know that there's nothing
the hottest. Everything was straight up and that's a beautiful thing. Um,
you guys are legends. Man. You guys kept y'all, y'all

(01:31:09):
your name so squeaky clean and kept it and kept
it with integrity, and it's something that it's something that like,
like I said, I want to m you know, always
salute and I want to always commend because, um, you
guys do a luxurious career consistency and quality that is
hard to maintain. Do you see how many people have

(01:31:31):
one hit and one one they can't make it hard
to get one is super hard to get. But then
they can't last. They can't last a year and a half.
That's a long time. Already they're back working at Pigny Whiggly.
I went too far career, but it's it's really like

(01:32:00):
it's real when you have a hit, alright, one hit
record to maintain that and you guys got I mean
thirty years more than thirty years more than you got
thirty two albums. I'm some about thirty two albums. Like
I've looked at DJ college the other day. I think
DJ college he's gone harder, he's thirteen. He's not even happen,

(01:32:25):
not even half. And to be clear, you guys are
usually writing the vocals and the music as well, and
that is the most incredible part this because try to
maintain what they're doing doing that, right, You could easily
be a vocalist and have producers. You could easily be
a vocalist and have writers writing your vocals and have producers.

(01:32:47):
They are writing the music and the vocals and performing.
You're right, that is incredible, That's super incredible. What do
you guys like better writing the music or performing the music?
The vote that the thing is is like we bounce, right,

(01:33:17):
a lot of different ideas, always off of each other,
consciously unconsciously, and so like when you come up with
an idea, then you present it and it's bounced off
the vocal part and that bounces back to the writing

(01:33:41):
part of the musical parts. And you know, you you
really we really don't do one without doing the other,
but being conscious of the other. You know, so that um,
as you load the gun, you want to shoot it. Hey,
you know says that say like footsteps in the dark.

(01:34:02):
When it was first recorded drums, bass one keyboard and
one guitar, okay, And the first song that was performed
vocally Footsteps in the Dark. And once the vocal went
on and the other vocals went on, then you can
hear the other musical parts to be added to it.

(01:34:26):
And by the time you finished with it, it's like
glorious technicolor and you have you know, you have the lyric,
you have the harmonies, you know, you have all the
things that make up a record. By the time you finish.
You don't necessarily have that when you begin, you just
at the beginning. So that yeah, so by the time

(01:34:49):
we get to, like the song is finish, it's like, man,
that bad points out of here, you know, for us
to know that before it comes out. So that's sort
of like the way that goes. So let me ask
you one more, right, and this is this is this
is like going for it right because I'm gonna help
you out just now. I help you out with this
one because I go through this and I only got

(01:35:13):
twenty twenty years. Right. But every now and then the
person samples my record, I don't like it, okay, sampling
it or just they're just doing it over the instrumental
doesn't matter. I don't like it. You need to be
like somebody, do you like everybody who covers your record

(01:35:35):
or has no you're right, you're right. We turned down
things all the time. You know. Sometimes the lyrics are really, really,
really bad. We said, I don't fit with you know, right,
you know? Yeah, you know this funny thing that no
one never ever talked about the songs that don't make it,

(01:35:57):
mostly these songs and we're talking about now hits. Yeah,
but how many you know how many hits? Was it
didn't make it? You know, well, for whatever reason, you know,
they didn't get played or the promotion wasn't right or something.
Give me for the ones that you actually clear, Yeah,
they didn't make it. It's we have albums that did.

(01:36:21):
We try to say, now, uh, the album I did
with Burt back right, is one of the best albums
I did. And you know, the record come defolded. Oh
you're talking about your own records, yeah right, but yeah,
the record company folded when we released the record, you know,
and that was one of the reasons the record didn't

(01:36:41):
get the chance to do. Yeah, and you can't take
that record now. And we tried to buy the record
back and they're either they pressed up four hundred thousand,
and they sold the four hundred thousand and then stopped, Well, damn,
you're winning gold and today's to end it. That's pretty good. Well,
they stopped. If I'm gonna go one of old y'all,

(01:37:05):
that's amazing that. You know, we don't know where that
record will wind up, even even after I'm gone, you know, right,
you know that's that's a funny thing about record st
You know, it's gonna be some hits that we didn't
know about. You know, my brother wrote a song, uh,

(01:37:28):
I think one of his first songs, my youngest brother.
Uh and he and he and he wrote the song,
and uh, someone in England did it, and then they
talking about this song is the best friend, the best
record in the world, you know. And that was his
first record as a kid. You know, you walk your way,

(01:37:49):
I walk mine. You know. Yeah, it didn't get a
Whitney Heuston story or no, we didn't get one year
and we're supposed to play the Whitney he used the
record Whitney Houston story. Oh I can tell you, okay,
I was in Las Vegas. We ran in Las Vegas.
I don't know what you're drinking, but you loosening it up.
It's a La Vegas in Las Vegas, right the MGM Hotel.

(01:38:15):
And I was at a bank of elevators and I
came out and this guy grabbed me and gave me
a bear hug. I couldn't see who it was, but
when he pushed back, it's Bobby Brown. You're giving us

(01:38:40):
a two of one. You know it was Bobby. It
was Bobby Brown. And after he pushed back, he said,
oh man, Ernie Man, I love y'all. Man loved the
way he played blah blah blah blah blah, you know,
and he pushed back. And when he did that, Whitney

(01:39:02):
Houston and we embraced. We got different stories night, man,
I just said. I just said to her, Whitney Houston,
with you girl like that, You're a champion. That's all
I can say to her. You're a champion. And she
starts smiling. They got in the elevator and you're a champion, girl.

(01:39:23):
Don't forget that you are a champion. You're a champion.
That's the last thing I said to her. And then
now we have different stories with you know, different different eras.
Whitney Houston with me goes back to England and everything
every with a mother and the whole nod you know, wow,

(01:39:47):
And so the records to get perfect, She's perfect, perfect
where she had done a sample of Between the Sheets. Yeah,
oh really? And row was in the video whether she
flew me in candy from Atlanta, Georgia playing Hold nine,

(01:40:08):
Yeah she did. She recorded for the Love of You also, Bob.
You know, man, guy's got such a beautiful history, a
beautiful family and we're not even touching the surface of
how much history here is here? Yeah. Yeah, to be
honest with you like this is we need days of
a podcast. I'll tell your story, yes, please, and keep
drinking that shit. Sorry? Is that my mother's house? And uh,

(01:40:36):
the door opened and it was Wrongald, and he said,
I got this idea for a song. And it was
me Kelly and Kelly, I she my eldest brother, and Marvin,
the youngest brother. Ronald said, I got this idea for
a song, So yeah, what is it? And he was

(01:40:58):
st stomping his foot. It's your thing. Do what you
want to do, because now I can't tell you who
to sock it to stock it. He stopped. It was

(01:41:19):
the first time I ever heard that any of us
had heard it. And after he stopped, he said something
like what y'all think, and we were all quiet, and
I remember I said, I like that. You said, do
what you want to do. I can't tell you who
to sock it to. You didn't say sock it to me.

(01:41:44):
That's the other thing Soccer told me at the time.
But I never said that. He never said that. The
last tracket Soccer to me. He just said, I can't
tell you who to sock it to. And eventually we
went to the studio and he sang the song on
one take. On the first take, I gotta be asked,

(01:42:05):
I gotta be honest. I did not know what socket too?
What did it mean? What that mean? Here's somebody? Or
it could be hit something or Franken did the record
so oh easy, oh shit, So okay, all right, I'm

(01:42:28):
gonna learn the slang like see like that and see
when you hit you. I'll always remember that the first
time I heard it's your thing, it was like that.
It was that raw. It was that voice came to you,
came to him too, you know. He wrote the song,

(01:42:50):
you know, and sang on the first time. I saying
when he came to you, yea, when he came when
he came back to the house and said, what do
y'all think it was like? And then the next time
was doing the uh you know, it was coming together
with the horn parts and whether else instruments were gonna
be on it. And we got to the studio and
you sang the song on the first take. Yeah, I

(01:43:16):
mean what kind of you know, like, what kind of
rolling of the dice is that first take? Seven? Yeah? No,
you know, either you're gonna roll seven or you're not
seven that song? Good God? Who m so, can you

(01:43:40):
give us the record real quick? We just take a
real quick we will record it. We'll be right back here.
The brothers I really get. I really get goose bumps,
you know, um, you know, just talking the history with
your brothers. Um, I really do. I really understand my
childhood more. H I understand my my adulthood more. I

(01:44:05):
understand who I am in hip hop more because I
was just sitting down with you, brothers, because this ya
are really royalty and royalty, You're a history. You're a
part of everybody's everything here, and I don't see hip

(01:44:26):
hop existing without you. Brothers. You know, I don't want
to see hip hop existing, but that's a good Yeah,
you're just thinking about people old records we've been missing.
If hip hop existed without the records that you guys made,

(01:44:47):
that trickled down the hip hop, I don't think it
would be the same job. Because there was resistance early
on to to the people sampling in hip hop, and
then the people that were saying, hey, these are the samples,
you gotta pay up. The industry didn't have it together
and the young thriving hip hop artists that they didn't
know what they were doing. They were just doing what

(01:45:08):
they were doing. So there was a clash there originally.
Did you guys ever feel that clash with hip hop?
You know, when I went to We're at the Grammys
one time and I, uh, some some people walked up
to me and said, hey, do you know Kendrick Lamar?

(01:45:28):
I never heard of him, right, and he had had
a couple of albums as still he was a star then,
but I had never never heard of And they introduced
him to me and he said, my mother was your
biggest fan, and she wants me to do a song
with you, he said, and she will have a fit.

(01:45:52):
All right, we've talked a little bit, and my wife
right right away said, you don't know who can Kenned
Ricks of the Marne, And so he flew to the
same to us at the time, and uh, we talked
about what he was gonna do, and he had the
song like who's that lady? I love myself? Yes, yeah,

(01:46:16):
I love myself. And so we talked about it and
we did it, and he talked about and and I
you know, listening to his album, listen to the album,
and he did. Uh, he wasn't naturally wondered that the
butterfly right, yeah, amazing, you know, it's just and you know,

(01:46:38):
he was amazing. Came back to New York, I came
back to California and the video, did the video. But
he turned out to be like wow, this guy is
he's he just amazing, you know, and they all love you,
they all your sons. Let's just keep be clear. Let's

(01:47:01):
be clear. Let's just came. I know you being humble
about it, but we all under you, you boys coming
into it be and they'd be like, y'all ought to
be like that, y'all We all to y'all, all right,
it's like it's true, but yeah, working on a new
album or no, oh yeah we have this album out now,
make me say it again. That's charting right now and

(01:47:23):
it's like doing fantastically wonderful. You know, yeah, I like it,
Like I said that. Uh, the single has been on
the charts for like thirty weeks in the top five,
you know, it was number one for five weeks and
it's number fiver with the six seven this week. Yeah

(01:47:46):
we went back major too, right, Yeah I took that
major check. No remember, no independent they just using the
major's now or just saying no, no, no. This is
so the album is doing fantastic and amen, let me
thank everybody for that, please, oh man, no man, everyone, Well,

(01:48:11):
I reverse it on both of y'all. Everybody kind of
need to thank y'all because, like I mean, like you know,
our show is about that. But I'm not saying this
to say this because y'all in my face. I'm saying
this to say this because y'all deserve this. I'm saying
to say this because this is real. I'm saying to
say this because this is facts. You guys are icons, legends.

(01:48:33):
I sincerely believe this show wouldn't exist. I believe you know,
his DJ career probly wouldn't exist. My you know rap
career wouldn't is this And like I said earlier, I
wouldn't even want it to exist without you brothers, because
it's a staple of of of of what real music is,
real music is, and everything has soul in it has

(01:48:58):
has has more was as composition and as opposed to
what's going on right now. And I'm not distening to
young brothers because I love them too. I'm just not
where they at. It has no substance, it has nothing.
It just these people are just talking to talk and
I don't want to become that guy. All the young
dudes and young music is a little crazy. But I

(01:49:19):
don't want to do that. But we need substance in music.
We need integrity and music. We need morals in music,
and you guys are the quintessential example of that, and
your brothers as well, all the brothers. Thank you for that,

(01:49:41):
all the brothers. Somebody I want to ask you about
Dion Warwick. Wow, however we were Wow going back to U.
It's a song twisting show. We were supposed to do
a song from uh Burt Backracker make it easy on yourself,

(01:50:06):
and that's what we rehearsed. Uh. The words were changed
to or you lonely by yourself when they were arguing
about that in the studio, and so they stopped our
session and Bert got mad and he walked out, and
guy that was producing us walked out. So we had

(01:50:29):
fifteen minutes left in the studio. So we did the
B side song, which was twisted out, and we didn't
hear it back because we didn't have enough time to
listen to it. And so we we said, man, I
did that the part who felt like that part of

(01:50:49):
our career was over. Oh man, we ain't gonna have
no really, you know. We walked out to the studio.
They made nine or ten demos of that song and
send it to Philadelphia and a disc jockey about the
name of Jerry Blavett start playing it and the song
went to two million keeter with That's when I had

(01:51:15):
met then Wald and I talked about that on a
show that we did UH with with. Bert said, look, man,
I wanted to sing your type of songs, but we
were left with twisted shouts. So we did and and
those days when you had a hit like Shout or

(01:51:36):
twist and shout. They wanted to keep you in that pocket.
So you know, sing them kind of songs that have
the next set as part of one two and things
like that. Yeah, okay, so no one would tell you
to sing hello, listen to me, you know, because they
didn't you. They didn't know that you could perform that
the same way. But it took a couple of years

(01:52:02):
to be able to fall, you know, get into those
type of songs and that then we got there say
now we gotta make we can do that, we can
do this, we can do this, do everything. Yeah, so
you never felt like in a ball like where people
just made you continue to do that because like I
remember me doing um super tuck. I gotta had a

(01:52:23):
song with Pharrell called what What What? What? What What?
And they just making me wanted to do that same record,
and I was like, I made that record angry. I'm
not angry, no, more like funny because the record doesn't
even sound angry. But but you know, but we know,
we just think about it. What what what? What? What
that day happened? So but they would try to was

(01:52:45):
that something when you moved over to these people were saying, man,
do another shower, do another you know what I mean?
You know when we pull them down on company, we
could sell him whatever, do whatever you want? See independent baby,
I told you so that's when I could. You know, hey,
I want to do shout. I want to do what
you do. I want to win you experiment, you go,

(01:53:08):
And obviously some things didn't work, like like some of
the Breeze was one of the songs. I want to
experiment with you know, Oh my gosh, make making just
sound like the rain drops. Yeah, wow, just smooth my
glass yours when you damn man, I just want to know.

(01:53:36):
Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna take a sipping and
continue to do another one because you guys, man really
really the real deal man? And did you watch the
the movie So Man? Yeah, they stole your whole shit?

(01:53:58):
Is that not hilarious? Didn't he watch it was So
Man with Bernie Mack? Yeah, I didn't see that. You're
gonna watched it with Bernie Mack? And um oh it's
his name, man, Oh fuck, I'm Samuel Jackson. Okay, man,
Oh they re enact your whole songs. But it's it's

(01:54:18):
a comedy. Yeah, yeah, it's called So Man. I thought
that's what you see that everybo somebody seen that shit, right, Yeah, yeah,
they got your whole ship. Yeah, they're trying to be
the Ozzy. But it was funny about it. Yea mentioned
the Blues Brothers earlier. They were they were doing Ozzie
Brothers song. Who's with Bruce Brothers outfits on? So it's
it's a comedy, so it's not like to take it

(01:54:40):
too serious. But they still they stole your whole shit.
This is bad. I know because I'm a rapper and
I'm a part of the community, have also stole your
whole ship. Yeah, salute, but the salut in because again, man,
it's called soul man. Yeah, I want to see that

(01:55:02):
so man, Yeah, obviously it's before Bernie Mac passed away. Day.
I sitting there, They're like, you know, they're doing the moves,
they're doing everything. They copying your music. Um, but it's
funny because um it was Okay, okay, you're gonna read
it off your phone. Well, Alice fish Gerald, we'd better

(01:55:23):
ask him. Oh yeah, because they didn't ask about woman. Yeah,
I'm gonna go about the Well I would like a
Diana Roy story. We'll leave me to today today or
this month. Um, I listened a very whole lot Oflop

(01:55:47):
Fish Gerald because to my wife, she's plays it in
the house like it's it's a new record again. He
is one of the great greatest singers. I think, you know,
just yeah did she just had had it all? And

(01:56:10):
my mother and father would play here or the same
as I heard here today in my house. Yeah, that's
that's the truth. My wife is right there. You can
ask it makes a noise up. We respect that. Yeah.

(01:56:31):
And Diana Ross, we got a Diana Ross story. Diana
that was I mean, I feel like we could say
any name. And because of how much you guys are,
you know, everybody influential a part of it. You've been
you've been active. You have a story with these people. Yeah, yeah,

(01:56:53):
excuse me, something worse. See this, This is the reason
why he stays over there. We need to mike him
up though. Yeah, but then but then cover his face.
At some point. We can't hear you, but we can't
see you. We don't want to see you. Listen, Listen,
it is my friend. Listen. I'm gonna be honest, man,

(01:57:14):
I have so much fun. I can keep going all day,
I can keep asking y'all ship all day and we
would it would be and it's and this has been.
I think it's the first time I had goose bumps
the whole time because I just kept like clapping, like
you know, like the little Chucky doll clap clapping because

(01:57:35):
I'm so excited, like to come and encounter with you
brothers and your beautiful family and everyone y'all came with
um for making sure that y'all you know, came here
and and in your presence is known because you know,
in our community we need this. We need to pick
up our legends. We need to tell our legends how

(01:57:58):
important they are, and not on a tweet. We could
say it face to face, man to man. You can
say and and I'm gonna say when when you're here,
I'm gonna say when you're not here, I'm gonna say
when I'm thinking about you, because you fucking deserve it.
You are legends icons the great. I personally want about

(01:58:23):
to you, guys. You know what I mean. In my way, Yes,
in my way I went about because it's one million
percent um. I know, if y'all didn't do what y'all did,
we probably won't be able to do what we're doing
right now. It's foundational. And I ain't saying that to gas.

(01:58:44):
I ain't saying that to Um. I'm says yes or
that was which one? Which one? Yeah, we can't have

(01:59:05):
to call you scared. Let me be the one to say,
I'm just playing. I am just playing. We love them
both both from Chicago to Man. Y'all shout down, play
let's play. Learn a lot from listening watching those shows.

(01:59:26):
Why can't you guys the questions you asked them, you know,
don't know you don't learn a lot from that. Man,
Thank you so much, Thank you much. We're here to
give you your flowers and we so this is, this
is We're gonna take a picture and then we do
a couple of drops and that's it. Man. I'm so happy. Man,
I really I wouldn't even want to say say this. Man.
I thank y'all. Man, I really thank y'all because y'all

(01:59:50):
didn't have to take your time out to do this.
Y'all didn't have to take your time out to continue
to represent the culture. But the fact that y'all do,
I think, Man, I really am. I really am thankful. Um,
Like I said, I had goosebumps this whole time. Thank
you supportive family for being a part of it as well,
because obviously they're the support system in your lives as well.

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Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, is
that bottle almost done? Sunny? We wanted to try it.

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