Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
Music.
(00:37):
Welcome back to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.
I am Frank. I am Brie. And this is Lynette.
Hi, guys. Hello. How's everybody out there today? I'm out there.
(00:58):
That's about it for me. What about you guys?
I am ready for vacation. Oh, yeah. Where are you going? I'm going to Key West. Nice.
That's where the weird comes out after the sun sets. Pretty much.
That's where Robert the Doll's at. Oh.
Yeah, are you going to go see it? No, Brian's being a weenie. Just leave him behind.
(01:20):
So wait a minute. So you're going to go to Key West.
We made the reservations to do the tour with Robert the Doll and everything.
We have an experience with him and stuff like that.
Brian was like, oh, I want to watch a documentary about it so I know what I'm
going to be experiencing. And I'm like, all right, we watched a documentary.
(01:40):
First thing he says to me, he's like, do not take pictures. I'm like,
that's fine. I won't take a picture.
Why? What do the pictures do? If you don't ask permission to take a picture,
then he basically comes and... You should take a picture.
But you have to ask permission. I can still take pictures. You just got to make
sure you're like, hey, Robert, can I take a picture of you?
And I take a picture. If you don't say that, then bad things happen. Don't ask permission.
(02:01):
You need to test this theory. three take brian's phone and
just take a picture you need
to try the social experience but i guess there's like five rules
to see in robert like you do the rule number one greet
introduce yourself rule number two be
respectful for number three ask for permission to
take a picture rule number four say goodbye what's the
(02:23):
fifth one i said four i thought you said five i
might four if i said five minutes before did brian create these
rules or did no this was on the documentary about it and i
guess like a lot of people that don't follow these rules whether it's one rule all
of them they end up like bad things happen coincidentally after and they've
been i guess they get like over a thousand letters a year apologize since robert
(02:44):
wow yeah i still think you need to try it out the funny part about it's like
after a week the more brian thought about it he comes up to me he's He's like,
I don't want to go anymore.
I'm too paranoid. He's such a weenie.
Like, seriously. Like, how did you marry such a bitch?
I don't know. I always joke around and say that I'm the man in the relationship,
(03:06):
so I don't know. I think you are.
Well, that's because you use a strap on. No, but I guess. That's besides the
marriage. You need to go in there.
You know? I mean, obviously. Obviously.
Can you just surprise, like, hey, we're going to go to this restaurant,
and then just pop over and visit Brian?
I still think you should ambush him. I agree. Yeah.
(03:26):
I'll try my best. That's a lie. That's a lie. He won't know we're planning this
until when he hears it, which it won't be until who knows.
You're not even going to try to do this. You're just doing this to appease us
so we stop making fun of you.
No. Mm-hmm. I'll think about it. It's just, if I have the guts, do it.
(03:47):
Do it. Do it. Peer pressure is a bitch.
Peer pressure is a bitch. Hey, to all of our ones of listeners,
send Brianna, that's B-R-E-A-N-N-A, at fringebeyondlimbs.com,
emails saying that she should ambush her husband into going seeing Robert Adol.
Flood her email box like he floods her box. Oh my God. Go there anyways.
(04:14):
So, Lynette, you're off to somewhere soon as well, right? Yeah,
I got a European trip coming up.
No, European. No, European.
Who's peeing? We all are. You are. All right, so you have a European trip?
Yep, with my husband, my mother, and my mother-in-law.
(04:34):
That's unique. Yeah. So both mothers.
Are you going to go see fairies and unicorns? I should. mom
we're gonna go visit some fairy circles
yeah are you going to
ireland i am going to scotland for a
quick quick turnaround trip there all right flying up to scotland to catch the
(04:57):
taylor swift concert i swear to god dude it was cheaper to get on a plane fly
across the pond get on another plane to fly up to Scotland, get a hotel,
rent a car, go to her show, than to watch her here in Chicago.
Ridiculous. That's sad. Yeah. Listen, I am terrified. Taylor.
(05:24):
Of the cult she has created. Oh, she has. The Swifties.
Listen, if they ever got their shit together and then finally turn 18,
they will take over this country. Mm-hmm.
And I will have to listen to Taylor Swift.
Or National Anthem will be a Taylor Swift song. I won't complain I will,
(05:48):
I have nothing against I think she's a great human being I mean she does There's
nothing but great stories about her Which is so Not heard of Right,
I have no animosity Towards her whatsoever And her music is fine It's the fans
(06:09):
That I have the issues with Because they're all crazy Yeah.
Well, you asked a crazy fan to join your cast. I didn't know that.
You keep learning new things about me today. I know. Yeah. I'm going to.
You're off. You're out. Sorry. Okay. Sorry. Peace out.
All right. Well, that's great. So I don't have anything planned.
(06:31):
I will be twiddling my thumbs at home with my dogs.
That sounds fun. Yeah. Well, me and my dog will have thumb wars. Do you think, Eileen?
Probably not. Yeah. Yeah, my vote's on the dogs. Yeah.
Opposable thumbs or no. I really hate you guys.
You're welcome. All right. So we do have an article again this week.
(06:55):
So let me jump in. I'm going to read you guys the headline.
Residents left horrified after quote unquote diaper spa where adults can role
play as babies opens in their town.
What do you think this is about, guys?
It's got to be somewhere down in the south. Do you think they have onesies? I hope so.
(07:17):
If they have onesies, I am definitely going wherever this is,
and I am going to be a baby for a day. Gross.
I'm getting the visual of that Rugrats episode where Tommy's dad,
doesn't he like dress up?
Okay. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Tommy's dad. I am Rugrats. He was after my time.
That's okay. You're old. But yeah, like his dad dressed up in a diaper.
(07:39):
I think, like, his dad, like, fell or something hit his head and he thought he was a baby. Yeah.
All right. Well, I mean, you know, that's great.
Weird, but. You're the one who's volunteering to go visit a diaper spa.
Only if they have onesies. Oh, okay. No. With the butt flap? Butt flap.
Yeah. How else am I going to deuce? I don't know. Do they make onesies with
(08:02):
butt flaps these days? I have no idea. I. I thought you had a closet full.
It's not what I have a closet full of. Yeah.
What, do you have a closet, Paul? Well, if it was in my closet, then you would know.
I don't want people to know what's in my closet. Aren't you in your closet?
Yeah, most of the time I am.
I'm in there hanging out and watching Dave Matthews. Okay. He's sexy.
(08:26):
He's definitely not going to call you back now that you told him that. Yep.
You know, you don't know. He might put a restraining order on you now.
For what? I have not done anything.
Yet. Well, you can't. Or that we know of. You can't get a restraining order
on what may happen. It's not how it works.
Sounds like our system's broken. A little bit.
Anyway. The controversial establishment has been opened up in Atkinson,
(08:50):
New Hampshire, and local residents aren't happy.
That's because it isn't your usual spa, but one that aims to pamper all diaper
lovers. See what they did there?
Pamper. Pamper, you get it? Yep. By that, they don't mean babies,
but those over the age of 21 who are evidently into that kind of thing.
(09:12):
Its website reads, the Diaper Spa is here to serve all diaper-wearing individuals
who seek acceptance, respite, and care.
We embrace 21-plus-year-old individuals from all races, genders,
sexual persuasions, and preferences.
We celebrate the genuine you. we are
(09:33):
lgbtqia plus plus
friendly and affirming we are trauma informed
only guests over 21 years old can consent and receive our very elite one-on-one
care set up by physician dr colin murphy she says the spa was created to serve
all diaper wearing individuals who seek acceptance acceptance, respite, and care.
(09:58):
Yeah, go ahead. So is this for people who wear diapers because of incontinence?
Or is this people who wear diapers because they like to role play or something?
Maybe they just aren't incontinent and they're just comfy with...
Right. But I'm curious when they say one-on-one care.
(10:20):
Yeah, that caught my ears too. Yeah, that kind of leads me down a role-playing for sexy time.
So I'm wondering if someone actually changes your diaper for you.
If it's one-on-one care.
Right. Agreed. I don't know if I want someone changing my own diaper.
And what else is on the agenda besides just wiping my ass?
(10:41):
You know what I mean? Like, this sounds really weird. So I'll continue.
The spa office services, such as ABDL, which stands for Adult Baby Diaper Lugging.
There's an acronym for everything these days. 100%.
So ABDL, nursery spa care. Virtual playdates with a doctor, as well as therapeutic
(11:04):
support and life coaching.
I am intrigued.
That doctor thing sounds... very sexual
very across the line virtual play dates right okay
so service price starts at a
hundred dollars with the diaper spa charging and
eye watering fifteen hundred dollars for a 24-hour stay at its b&b atkinson
(11:29):
residents aren't happy about the new facility and have set up a petition calling
for the town to reject any business and zoning licenses and applications for this business,
Created by Kayla Gallagher on 28th of January, part of the petition's description reads,
We, a concerned residents of Atkinson, are writing this petition to urgently
(11:50):
bring to your attention serious issues surrounding the operation of the diaper
spa located at 23 Pope Road,
Atkinson, New Hampshire, 03811.
As residents and patrons of this community, we feel compelled to voice our collective
concern and dissatisfaction regarding potential incidents that pose a threat
(12:11):
to the safety and well-being of our community members,
particularly our children.
So question, I understand why they threw children in there because you have
to save the children and that just tugs.
But if this place is a 21 and over facility, what difference would it make than
the bar being there in terms of its effect on children?
(12:36):
It must be very conservative, but it's New Hampshire. Yeah. I mean,
isn't that where Bernie's from?
I thought he's, I don't know. I think so, yeah. Yeah, isn't Bernie the independent
from New Hampshire? Yeah, probably. Yeah.
So the, I could understand if they thought this was like a brothel or something
like that, that they would be concerned in not letting them open.
(12:58):
But I just think it's so silly that, uh,
That they would be upset about this. I mean, how much business can this place really make?
There's obviously a need for it. Or a calling for it. I mean,
is there a hub of diaper-wearing adults in New Hampshire that we don't know about?
(13:19):
If you know about diaper-wearing adults, please reach out to Frank at FrenchVianLimits.com.
Or if you are a diaper-wearing adult.
Yeah, reach out to me. I would like pictures, videos, whatever you got. Send them on over.
I don't know. I'm still hung up on this New Hampshire thing,
though. I know you're asking a question, but I'm still on this New Hampshire thing.
Only because I have a side story about New Hampshire.
I was driving through New Hampshire once and there was a mattress on the side
(13:43):
of the road. Was it really just a big diaper?
With a sign that said, free mattress, kind of clean. So it was a used diaper.
I'm just saying that maybe you need to go to New Hampshire. It sounds weirder than Key West.
Okay. Okay, so despite the way it sounds, Dr. Murphy has insisted that the spa
doesn't cater to people with fetishes, but aims to help those looking to process any trauma.
(14:07):
It helps them process whatever trauma it is, Murphy told WHDH7 News.
A lot of times it's childhood trauma when they were in diapers or just getting
out of diapers, and they want to feel that safety that they had before that.
That's weird. And yeah, that's the end of the article.
Cold uh just kind of an abrupt end with
(14:29):
you know with a lot of
ways just not satisfying at all yeah so what do you guys think they have a screening
process to see if you're just curious and you want to have your diaper changed
or if you actually have trauma find their website yeah that's that's what i'm
going to right now i want i found a website but didn't really give like too
(14:49):
much info that's just crazy yeah so hold on i'm looking it up right now my laptop
loves to move slow today guys so this is going to be great for the podcast so there is no website.
So i wonder if this place just hasn't opened yet oh yeah here the diaper spa
(15:12):
the diaper spa.com Really? Yeah.
Diaper spot. Yeah. The diaper spot. There's really not much on the website.
And I just found another article that says the owner of this place has been reprimanded.
What do you mean reprimanded? I'm trying to get this pulled in.
It just says that there is a cease and desist order against the woman behind
(15:35):
this moment. So it might not...
I'm on the website and here we go. So I'm under services.
They have a services section that says no services are available to residents of or in New Hampshire.
Sure what so they want to protect
(15:56):
their children but they're going to call in out-of-staters to
come use their one well no so right now all the service they have are via phone
call so the so the first one 30 minute free discovery call we would love to
connect with you and discuss your specific needs and questions regarding the
diaper spa and services live telephone call one hour or contact to discuss.
(16:18):
Experience a personalized professional live telephone call.
There's also a texting service and a coaching and support service.
That's so weird. This is very weird.
Yeah, so. Well, next time in your New Hampshire. Yeah, go to diaperspot.com
and you'll be able to go get your diaper changed for free.
Tell them to use code FRINGEBEYONDLIMITS.
(16:44):
All right, so. Diapers. yeah i do
not want to change any fringy diapers that's horrible
oh gosh all right well
that was interesting that was that was a great great way to start
off this episode what do we uh what are we talking about today guys what do
we got going on we got the beast of bray road bray road what is the beast of
(17:09):
bray road is that is that like a cryptid some say a cryptid i mean and some it's just like,
Is it a werewolf? It could be a werewolf or I think the other term is... Dog man? Dog man, yeah.
That some people use as well. Is that like Randy Jackson? Yeah.
(17:31):
Dog man? Yep. Dog man? Yeah. No? All right.
So, yeah. So, today we'll be talking about the Beast of Bray Road.
It's actually not too far from where we live in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.
I would say it's maybe two hours.
I don't think it's that far at all from us. You know, it's funny about people in the Midwest.
(17:52):
We don't use miles as it's always time.
It's like, oh, you know, how far is so-and-so from you? Oh, you know,
he lives about 45 minutes away from me. Yeah, it's not 30 miles.
Why do we do that? It's because it's flat out here and everyone's just straight line.
(18:13):
No i i i actually prefer miles
no i prefer time yeah because i
would rather know how much time i'm gonna have to spend in the car opposed to
how many miles because i don't care how many miles i have to drive yeah because
sometimes like too like there can be like depending on the speed limit or if
there's traffic you can times either going to go lower or higher depending but
(18:37):
the miles still They'll stay the same.
Yeah. And like when you're driving in California, they go by miles because their
traffic is trash and you can go two miles and it might take you two hours.
Really? Yeah. Is it really that bad? On some of those freeways out there,
it's five, six lanes wide and it's bumper to bumper four miles.
(18:58):
You think Chicago traffic is bad. That's worse. Like honestly,
I don't understand how there are more shootings out there with that kind of traffic.
How there aren't? You're right. Oh, well, they're very liberal out there.
Are they? Oh, yeah. Like, how liberal?
How do you quantify it? I don't know. That's why I'm asking you.
(19:21):
They have a whole bunch of propositions to make sure. Well, I mean,
think about it. You can smoke weed out there. They're very LGBTQ friendly.
Well, I mean, all that stuff should be, in my opinion, everywhere.
You know, we should be open to those ideas. Like they're not very,
well, I shouldn't speak for the whole state, but I have family out there and everything.
(19:43):
Thing and they're not terribly religious driven or
what sort i'm looking for conservative as far
as that goes yeah okay oh i just i've never been i haven't experienced too many
california things so uh yeah i just didn't know that stuff california all right
(20:04):
california knows how to party I was thinking,
you know, the theme song to the LC TV show.
California party in the city. Okay, Frank.
City of Chicago. Oh my goodness. All right. Anyway. All right,
(20:24):
back to the Beast of Bray Road. Beast of Bray.
It's a road outside of Elkhorn, Wisconsin, known as Bray Road.
It's home to a dog man cryptid called the Beast of Bray Road.
Residents have been reporting sightings of the beast in Elkhorn area for decades.
The earliest sighting of the beast dates back to the 1930s, but it wasn't until
(20:46):
Linda Godfrey, author of the book, The Beast of Bray Road.
Tailing Wisconsin's werewolf, began investigating the claims that the world
learned about the notorious Wisconsin werewolf.
So see, right off the bat, I'm confused.
So it calls it a dog man cryptid but then
in the title of her book she
(21:08):
calls it wisconsin's werewolf so to
me the difference to me is a cryptid is an actual animal like that's what it
is you know like a bigfoot's a bigfoot you know whatever other cryptids are
there i don't know but like so it's always going to be a dog man when you say
werewolf that means it's a man that that turns into a wolf.
(21:31):
You know what I mean? So. More like a shapeshifter.
Sure. Well. I mean, yeah. I mean. In a way, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, you know.
So, but my point being is that, what is it now? Is it a werewolf or is it a cryptid?
You know, is it always, does it always look like a dog man? Yeah.
(21:54):
That's a good question. I'm just wondering if it was just a catchier title. No, maybe.
Maybe just a way to sell. I'm just wondering if she just put it in for the title,
yeah. Just to sell more books.
Yeah. Because a lot of articles about the Beasts of Braywood goes back to Dogman.
They always mention Dogman more than they do Werewolf.
Yeah. All right. It was published in 2015, so I don't know when the term cryptid got coined.
(22:18):
Pretty sure it's been coined before. Prior to that, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, just because, you know, we always talk about Loch Ness Monster,
talk about there's different Sasquatches out there, so like the ape.
Yeah, Yeti, Skunk Man. Yeah, Skunk Man is what I was looking for.
All right, so witnesses who have allegedly encountered the Beast of Ray Rowe
describe it as tall and hairy, with glowing eyes, long claws,
(22:41):
and the stench of rotting meat.
You know, everything but the hairy part kind of reminds me of me.
You? I was going to say that.
I'm glad you realized that. I'm very self-aware. So we're actually doing an
episode on Frank today. Oh, interesting.
This is Wisconsin's version of Frank. You need to trim your toenails. I do.
Some people believe it is a werewolf, others that it is a Bigfoot,
(23:05):
and others believe it is an unidentified species.
Those who have seen the beast describe him as eating, hunting,
scavenging, though it has never attacked anyone. One witness's claim,
it has acted aggressively running at them and jumping on their vehicles.
I would be freaked out. Yeah. So if you're driving down this country road and
(23:30):
you come upon the beast and he runs at you and jumps on the hood of your car,
what's the first thing you guys do?
Slam on my brakes, scream, and I have no clue what I would do after that.
Probably end up hitting a tree because I get so freaked out.
I'd probably cry.
(23:51):
I'd probably pull over and I'd probably go check on it.
Because I'd probably think it was a deer.
So never riding with Lynette as the driver again.
What would you do? I would assume that it's like most animals out there that he's presenting for me.
(24:16):
And I would have to softly turn him down and be like, I am married.
And I'd show him my ring and give him a handkerchief so he can cry himself to sleep that night.
Burning their hopes and dreams. Pretty much, yeah. Sad wolf.
Sad, yeah, sad wolf face. Beast wolf face. Sad man. Sad, brave beast wolf face.
(24:39):
So the Beast of Bray Road's reputation as a cryptid has drawn comparisons to
other infamous creatures such as Chupacabra or the Dogman.
Cryptozoologist researchers who study hidden or undiscovered animals have taken
a particular interest in this elusive creature.
They investigate reported sightings, gather witness testimonies,
(25:01):
and attempt to uncover evidence that may shed light on the creature's existence.
I have a question.
I may have an answer. so it says
that cryptozoologists i'm sorry
it says that yeah cryptozoological researchers who study hidden or undiscovered
animals how do you study an undiscovered animal by other people's stories and
(25:25):
what they think evidence that they caught and the pictures they think they could
have but what are you studying probably to see like the similarities between each stories.
Okay. That's the only thing I can think of. And they put all the research together
and say these are everything that everyone's saying. It's the same.
Do you ever wonder how these cryptozoologists, researchers get paid? Who pays them?
(25:51):
I don't know if they do get paid. So is this like a hobby for them?
I would think so. I want to just make up my own title and just be like,
you know what, guys? I'm FBI.
I don't think you can just claim that sort of title. No, I can't.
I'm a female body inspector.
Knew you were going there. So that's what I do. So there should be a line.
(26:14):
I have an unlicensed practice out of my house where I can give you my services. Oh, yeah.
What do you guys think? Do you guys want to? I can tell you a lot about yourselves. Oh, no, I'm good.
All right. So there goes my business idea. So here's the. The average cryptozoologist's
salary is about $71K, $72K a year.
(26:38):
I think I want to change jobs. That's a comfortable living for making up a job. Yeah.
I think I found my new job. I'm quitting. Yeah. We should make an organization
and become cryptozoologists.
That's insane. That's the average.
Yeah. Salaries go up to over $100K.
Okay. You guys want to start a new company? No, I want to start. make
(27:02):
up my own occupation now yeah holy shit
that's insane that is insane like
it's a made up title maybe that's where all our tax dollars go
just go into funding these ridiculous programs
maybe oh no i'm speechless this is ridiculous okay you know they even include
total comp like health care paid vacations and 401k matches bonuses and overtime
(27:27):
look for look for and job boards for people looking for a cryptozoologist.
That's what we need. Go to like Indeed. Yeah, there we go.
Like, I want to see what companies are hiring cryptozoologists.
And B, how do you know he or she is a cryptozoologist?
(27:51):
You get a degree in...
Is it something you get from Hogwarts?
Maybe. There's nothing in the Aurora area. Okay, let's expand our search. All right.
This is so stupid. You can keep going.
I'll let you know if I hit him in the head. All right. So explanations and theories.
There's several theories have emerged to explain the origins and nature of the beast of Bray Road.
(28:14):
Some believe it may be surviving relic of an unknown prehistoric species or
a descendant of a long extinct creature.
Others propose that it could be an undiscovered species or hybrid resulting
from genetic anomalies.
Skeptics, on the other hand, suggest that these sightings may be misidentifications
of known animals, such as wolves, large dogs, or even individuals in elaborate costumes.
(28:37):
They argue about the power of suggestion and the allure of local legends may
contribute to the perpetuation of the creature's existence. Did you find something?
I found a cryptozoology diploma course. Oh, no way.
Yeah, I'm going to send you the link. Yeah, from where? It's only $160.
(28:58):
And according to Indeed, you can use that degree and be like a marine biologist or ecologist.
What the hell is going on? I don't know. You could be whatever you want to be
when you grow up. Oh, my God.
I hunt yetis for a living. Yeah, that's crazy.
All right. I'm leaving the podcast to become a cryptozoologist.
(29:21):
Just letting you guys know.
So some pop culture, the Beast of Ray Road has garnered attention beyond the
realm of cryptozoology, inspiring works of fiction, documentaries, and even a feature film.
Its mysterious nature and allure of unexplained phenomenon continue to captivate
audiences, ensuring its place in the annals of cryptid lore.
(29:44):
The Beast of Ray Road remains an enigmatic figure in the realm of cryptozoology,
captivating the imaginations of those intrigued by tales of mysterious creatures,
whether it is a genuine unknown species or a product of folklore and misidentifications.
(30:10):
That lie within the shadows So, you just sent me...
What'd you send me? Diploma course. This is fascinating.
This is, we made such a left turn on this fucking episode.
I'm also, like, Elkhorn, Wisconsin is a town. It's just this little, it's not a big town.
(30:34):
I got, cryptozoologist duties often include gathering data about potential animal
sightings, interviewing witnesses and assessing their trustworthiness,
this, producing academic reports to explain research methods and outline final results,
securing physical proof of an animal's presence, such as droppings or verifiable video footage,
(30:55):
analyzing supposed physical evidence to determine if it offers proof of an animal's existence,
advocating for their causes in public and at industry events,
and lastly, considering how undiscovered species could affect their natural environment.
So, looking at this class, there's 3,000 users enrolled in Cryptozoology Diploma Course.
(31:22):
What will you learn? Let's learn. What will we learn?
Cryptozoology is the study of creatures whose existence is disputed or unsubstantiated.
However, while the existence of animals like the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti
is not proven, neither has it been categorically disproven.
(31:42):
In this course, you'll explore theories and explanations from scientists and cryptozoologists.
You'll see arguments to support and undermine the evidence for the fantastical creatures.
By the end of the cryptozoology diploma course, you'll be able to decide whether
lake monsters, sea serpents, thunderbirds, and other mythical monsters are a rumor or a reality.
(32:05):
I feel zone. They're just stealing people's money.
I'll charge you 150 bucks put together a powerpoint and be like you have a certification
in cryptozoology I'm going to put out a course on podcasting and be like listen to our podcast,
(32:25):
anybody can do it anybody can do it like.
There's 3000 people what on earth are people doing thinking.
All right. So, all right. So here there's, okay.
So the course syllabus module one, the concept of cryptozoology, um,
(32:51):
introduction there is part one
a definition of cryptozoology part two the
history of crypt cryptozoology and related fields
of study part three famous cryptids
then you get to test your knowledge so they
made over half a million dollars because it's
(33:11):
what like 160 170 dollars yeah and
3 000 people are enrolled they just made a half a mil for four
slides on a powerpoint yeah no there's
a total of 10 modules okay so module two the loch ness monster part one the
beauty of the loch and recorded sightings part two the birth of the loch ness
(33:35):
monster legend theories and explanations and other lake monsters you're gonna love module three.
Module module three is called the kraken and other sea monsters
where they
go talk about okay so part two of
module three is called release the kraken i
(33:57):
mean how can you take this seriously no all right
so module four okay so this is actually better this
is more i feel the rooted and so
module four is giant anacondas of
south america now that is a thing yeah yeah that's
a real animal no no no when they say giant they mean
like bigger than normal anaconda that yeah like the
(34:19):
movie anaconda like it's like you know
and they don't want two miles long you know you
know my my anaconda don't want none yeah yeah unless you got buns on so so so
yeah so and then also here module five the legend of bigfoot i can get behind
that you know we talk about the folklore of it and then module six the yeti which makes
(34:44):
sense because the yeti is an offshoot of it's just a white bigfoot yeah the
actually with the white oh yeah it is the abominable snowman yeah that's right that's right.
Module 7, El Chupacabra, which is fine.
Module 8, Thunderbirds, which is a thing because, I mean, there's even Native
(35:05):
American legends of Thunderbirds.
So far, half of this, I would say, is more credible than that.
Right? Sure. Until we get to Module 9. Okay.
Now, Module 9 is by far my second favorite, I would say. Okay.
Mothman. Like your favorite cryptid? no no
(35:26):
like my favorite module because it's it's ridiculous mothman
i mean we're going to talk about mothman we
have we have a whole module part one is
the legend of it part two is mothman around the
world and then doom deliver or something
else is part three i mean what the
fuck are people give me 150 bucks and i'll
(35:49):
talk to you for a day yeah i'll be your friend for a day
right you will get sick of me and you'll be like
thank god i'm not him i can go live my life certificate when you're
done yes and then module 10 the
future of cryptozoology i feel like
they're missing a whole bunch of cryptids i would say so anyway
sorry keep going yeah what else will i learn in this yeah so in that module
(36:12):
you'll there's part one the obstacles facing cryptozoology one and then part
2 is The Obstacles Facing Cryptozoology 2 and then part 3 is Cryptozoological Tourism. Oh, right.
Just, this is just ways of stealing your money.
Yeah, but people sign up for tours. You go any place of, you always got those
(36:37):
people that are looking to hire to give you a tour and you pay them a hundred
bucks to walk you around and be like, dumbass man. Yeah.
Do you think the Mothman is anatomically correct? Do you think it is a man?
I don't even know about the Mothman. You just said it. You don't?
I don't know anything about it. Really?
I think I've seen a drawing once. Was it a moth that looked like a man?
(36:59):
Or was it a man that looked like a moth?
Isn't that a chicken and egg kind of? Yes, it is. Okay, yeah.
So I also, Bree sent me over a job looking for a cryptozoologist.
Yeah. that's amazing what what
skill set is required is there any x amount of
(37:20):
years experience that's what i'm looking for what soft skills do cryptozoologists
often possess soft soft skills objectivity critical thinking attention to detail
and data analysis okay job options for cryptozoologists,
wildlife specialist.
(37:43):
A naturalist, I don't know what I need to say, an observer.
What the fuck's an observer? I was going to say the same thing.
Like, how, like... All right, right. Primary duties.
Observers monitor animal populations in person over a long period,
recording any changes to their geographical range, predation, or behavior.
If an animal's geographical range declines, observers may also vary,
(38:06):
varied measure may use varied measures to assess the extent of this issue,
such as the number of sightings recorded in a period or roadkill frequency.
Wildlife biologist, Marine biologist. And that's it.
I don't think I want to live in this world anymore.
(38:28):
Wow. All right. So back to the beast of Ray road.
So what is this over here that you guys, set
up is this like a the legend of beast of beast
of prey road so i'll just read
this it's an article it's an article okay yeah so
we'll just go over it mark shackleman arrived at saint coletta school for exceptional
(38:52):
children a little before midnight he carried his flashlight on his belt as the
night watchman for the school he walked these grounds every night the school
The school was located inside a former Franciscan convent outside Jefferson,
and the grounds covered several old buildings, an orchard, and wide open fields,
where several old Native American burial mounds had been preserved.
(39:16):
The year was 1936. Shackleman was in his 30s, a husband and father working the
uneventful job for a paycheck to support his family. In rural Jefferson,
there wasn't much to worry about, save the...
I'm sorry, let me read that again. In rural Jefferson, there wasn't much to worry about, save...
(39:37):
Save the possibility of a burglar or some teenagers playing a prank.
God, that read so weird to me.
That night, Shackleman was crossing the fields when he saw a shadow.
He squinted to see what it was.
A hunched form was on all fours, digging into the mounds from the canine.
From the canine way it dug it, it could have been a dog or maybe a wolf,
(39:57):
but even from afar, Shackleman could see that the thing was far too big for that.
Suddenly, it looked at him, and then it stood up. The sleek,
hairy body unfurled to over six feet tall.
It had a shaggy, canine face, but beneath the thick fur, the muscular body of
a man. A low growl echoed across the field.
(40:17):
He smelled rotting meat. His heart beating fast, trying to control his breath,
Shackleman stepped back.
With sudden violence, the thing turned and ran off into the trees and was gone.
The next night, Shackleman returned to St. Coletta for his usual rounds.
As he walked the fields, he saw the shadow again, digging in the same mound as the night before.
(40:38):
This time he gripped his flashlight tight, ready to run or swing if needed.
Again, it stood up.
But this time it opened its mouth. Shackleman saw fangs hanging down from its
teeth and its lips pulled apart in a snarl.
A growl led him, its speech half human, half beast.
(40:59):
He didn't move, and again the creature turned and left.
He never saw it again, but the horrendous growl, the way it seemed to speak
to him, stuck in his mind for years afterward.
This legend is the first reported sighting of the creature that would eventually
become known as the Beast of Bray Road.
Sightings become prevalent in the 80s and 90s, particularly centralized around Elkhorn.
(41:21):
One woman reported the beast attempting to break into her home and later injuring
one of her horses, leaving a gash across its back.
She claimed the footprints it left behind were over 12 inches long. Overachiever.
A woman spotted it crossing the road in front of the car. Another driver saw
(41:42):
it crouch on the side of the road, eating an animal.
One young girl reported the beast chasing her through the forest.
No, that's just Little Red Riding Hood.
Okay. In 1999, an 18-year-old girl was driving down a railroad near Delavan
when she says her right tire hit something, lifting it up off the ground.
(42:03):
She stopped and got out to see what she had run over, but there was nothing there.
She looked at the side of the car and saw a massive wolfish form standing on two legs.
She rushed back into the car, and as she peeled away, the beast leapt onto her
trunk, but slid off in the slick rain, and she sped home.
Home that is lynette lynette gets out and goes are you okay yeah come here give
(42:27):
me a hug and it just eats your face at least i wouldn't be the guilty party.
Yeah. Don't look at me in that tone of voice. Don't look at me in that tone
of voice. I swear to God, you're turning me into a potato.
Hey, if you hit something, you don't just keep driving unless it's a zombie.
(42:47):
I usually look at my rear view mirror and be like, what was that?
Oh, it was nothing. Keep going. Even if it was a raccoon?
I ran over a skunk once and kept going. And my car smelled for like three months.
I love skunks and the smell.
She likes the smell of skunks. I do. I open up my windows when I smell skunk.
You know you can have a skunk as a pet? It smells tangy. No, you can.
(43:11):
Yeah, you can. You have to have a special exact license, but you can have a
skunk as a pet. I looked into it, and I thought Illinois, it's not allowed.
Well, maybe not in the state, but you can have one. And they also de-skunk them,
like they do with ferrets. That's not fair. Can we de-skunk Frank?
Ooh, can we? If you're an artist out there, go ahead and draw a picture of skunk Frank.
(43:33):
And send it to Frank at FringeBeyondLimits.com. We're going to de-skunk you.
I don't think. I don't think that's possible. Should we make a GoFundMe to get
his procedure done? My transition?
Your procedure, getting it de-skunked. Do you think that would work?
I don't know. I don't think so. I would love to try that. They'll put an exhaust
(43:54):
pipe on the back. Like glass packs?
Shoots out flames you know or they could just put it like a permanent i can
get behind that if i can shoot out flames i can't even talk today if i can shoot
(44:14):
out flames every time i shit myself i would never stop shitting myself and you
would need the onesie with the butt flap,
you could just see it flapping we can just put a permanent air freshener right
by his butt so every single time it's i don't think that works,
it's like far enough flowers i've hung i've
hung one of those pinecone trees from my pinecone trees
(44:36):
yeah you know those things that those uh pinecones not
pinecone trees yeah yeah trees are different yeah no
you know the pine tree it's a pine tree pinecone pine
tree things that you hang on the bed in your rearview mirror
i put that and on the small on my back
kind of like a stamp trap and i've hung it below and it didn't work yeah i think
(44:59):
you need a glade stick up thing the plugins plug it in my ass that might work
do you think they have like like air freshener butt plugs.
Maybe the diapers, maybe they have air freshener diapers.
Oh, here you go. Okay. I mean, maybe they can make butt plugs with lemon scent.
(45:22):
That would be great. If not, that could be your new invention and make a lot
of money. Then you can retire. Wow.
I could retire to Elkhorn and live with the Beast of Bray Road.
Mm-hmm. Go back to your family. All right. All right, so back to this 18-year-old girl.
When she came forward with her story, many of the other sightings were reported
(45:42):
as well, prompting both further investigation and fresh skepticism and mockery.
These sightings prompted The Week, a Walworth County weekly paper,
to send Linda Godfrey to investigate and compile stories.
While initially skeptical, Godfrey says she came to believe the sincerity of
the witnesses who spoke to her. On her website, Godfrey writes.
(46:21):
Or hoaxes. In 2003, Godfrey wrote The Beast of Wraith Road, Tailing Wisconsin
Werewolf, which recounts in depth what she learned speaking to the many residents
in and around Elkhorn who report interactions with the beast.
Sightings of the beast have slowed down considerably since the 90s,
although one or another still crops up on occasion.
(46:43):
The veracity of any of these claims remains a cause for speculation,
but for now we'll leave you with a quote from one of the masters of the strange
and terrifying H.P. Lovecraft.
There are horrors beyond life's edge that we do not suspect.
And once in a while, man's evil prying calls them just within our range. Ba-dum-bum.
(47:08):
Yeah, there was a lot of redundancy looking into The Beast of Bray Road.
Everything was just the same stories over and over. There wasn't too much meat
and potatoes to the story, but it is interesting to me because it is so close.
Like i would love to take a drive
(47:28):
and hang out there for a night
it's just a country road in the middle of a town yeah right yeah right and and
i would love to like just park on the side of the road but why would they stay
there like maybe they moved out of the area and that's why they're not seeing
them often anymore or maybe it is like a real cryptid and it just aged out and
(47:50):
it's old and it's a crypt old instead
of a cryptid yeah it's yeah it's just
got old balls now and just it drags they drag they're very saggy and wrinkly
yeah and they i mean they're always wrinkly you know but they kind of just there's
your dragon now and it kind of hurts when he moves around maybe how you know
(48:10):
it's a guy that's a male one if it's a female well if
he's got old saggy boobs and those are dragging do you want to
know how i know oh because when the man saw him keeping watch it ran away but
when the woman hit him with the car he stood his ground so he's definitely not
(48:32):
afraid of women so which makes him an abuser of some sorts.
You have weird logic. It's a man. Now you figure this out?
I'm still trying to put together what you just said. Me too.
I'm like, how does that still show you that that's a man? So is all six of our listeners.
Pretty much, yeah. So what do you guys think of this beast at Berry Road? Is it real?
(48:57):
And if it's not real, what do you think
they're seeing? Is it just a misidentification? Is it a hallucination?
Is it possibly just me out there dressed up like a wolf?
That could be a possibility. I feel like they are seeing something.
They are experiencing some type of animal.
I'm assuming all this stuff is happening at night, so they can't really tell
(49:18):
what this creature looks like. So I think it's some type of animal.
And they just, with it being a dark, they're just over-exaggerating everything
because you don't see it clearly.
That's my opinion. No, that's a good opinion. I think people drink a lot in
Wisconsin, and they're just making stuff up, and they eat a lot of cheese.
(49:42):
I don't know if I believe in this one.
So there is one thing that's true about Wisconsin.
They're full of cheese, beer, porn shops, and serial killers.
Did you say porn shops? Porn.
Okay, I thought you said porn shops. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to clarify. For who, yourself?
(50:05):
Me and everyone out there because
i didn't know if you meant to say pork chops but he said porn chops,
both they have both up there okay for everyone out there that was my audible eye roll.
Of brianna they do have a lot of serial killers up there yeah they
(50:25):
do right i mean so like that's why like i am scared of
wisconsin people like i don't know if
they are legitimately just drunk and bloated from
all the cheese or if they just watched a
bunch of porn and was ready to kill people because they're on this like sex crazed
bender maybe bound up bender bound because of all the cheese so i you know i
(50:51):
would like to think that a lot a lot of these are are are real like Like,
you know, since it's been going on for so many years,
like, yeah, it could be just people just jumping on the bandwagon.
Oh, yeah, I saw the beast, too, you know.
But with this lady, was it Linda Godfrey? Mm-hmm.
(51:12):
With her being skeptical and then going to investigate and finally...
Having these one-on-one conversations with these people and seeing the sincerity
in their eyes and their voice and their mannerism.
I mean, there's something to that.
Maybe, maybe they didn't see, maybe, you know, the beast is fake,
but they definitely saw something that they thought was scary enough to come
(51:37):
out, come forward and say this and have that sincerity, you know?
So I kind of wanted to lean towards yes, but it's just still,
you know, on, you know, within or beyond the limits of the fringe, right?
Kind of like our name for a show. Sure. Yep. Yeah.
Did you guys like that plug or no? That was great. It was a good plug.
You guys are, I hate you all.
(52:00):
So, yeah. Anything else to add to this? So when are you driving up there?
You going in the summer or the winter? I would rather do the summer.
Okay. Or even like the fall.
Yeah, because, you know, in my old age, like I just can't be out in the cold
for as long as I used to be able to, you know?
(52:22):
Yeah, in Wisconsin, they go swimming when it's like 30 degrees outside and stuff.
So it's, you'll stand out like a sore thumb if you're wearing a coat in Wisconsin.
If you're a listener from Wisconsin, I love you. You're my favorite people.
This is for anyone who's not a listener from Wisconsin.
But I really think that they're like the Alabama of the North.
(52:44):
I mean, I kid. I kid our neighbors to the North. You know what they call us? They call us fish.
What does that stand for? Fucking Illinois shitheads. Oh, that's friendly. Or fibs.
Fucking Illinois bastards. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's because they're hoarding all
the new Glarus up there. All the new what? The new Glarus beer.
(53:06):
Oh, is there a new one? No, just in general. We can't get that beer down here.
Oh, I know. Is that Spotted Cow too, right? Yeah, that's the Spotted Cow. Yeah.
Spotted Cow is good. I will say that they do have good taste in beer.
Sure do. Yeah, 100%. That and jerky.
They don't have a lot of vegetarian options in Wisconsin. No,
they do not. They don't. I usually go hungry when I go to Wisconsin.
Do you? Yeah. You just fill up on cheese. I just eat cheese. Cheese and beer.
(53:30):
Cheese, beer, and just watch porn. That's all you do. Porn shops, yeah.
All right. Well, guys, I hope you learned something about our great state of
Wisconsin today. We love them.
We do. We do. My brother-in-law, Brianna's brother, lives in Wisconsin with
three beautiful children.
Dustin if you're listening get out so.
(53:55):
Anyway yeah anything any last words here ladies,
no but I would like to go visit this road camp out oh no I don't camp,
well like camp out in your car you mean like sit there and oh right
is that what you mean or you mean like no I think she means actually yeah she
means like I would I'm like one of those people that would actually go
camping I don't camp I need remember I think we we're
(54:17):
talking about i need a structure i'll i'll drive down the road
to the hotel and i'll sleep in a bed and
i'll have like running water and a snack machine
i can get something out of you could just take a shower the next day you can
poop in the the woods i've pooped in woods i've pooped off a mountain i have
pooped myself i mean i have no problems pooping wherever i poop that's not the
(54:41):
The issue is I need a bed and I need a structure around me.
You can sleep in your car. I could. I'd be really fucking uncomfortable though.
No. No. All right. Well. Well, on that note, visit our website,
fringebeyondlimits.com.
Email us if you are the Beast of Ray Road.
Send us an email at frank at fringebeyondlimits.com. With a non-grainy photo.
(55:04):
I would like a dick pic from the Beast of Ray Road. Yeah.
So send me one of those. If you have had encounters with the Beast of Ray Road
or other cryptids, let us know. We'd love to hear.
And visit our Facebook, FringeBeyondLimits.com, and Instagram.
So on that note, you guys all have a wonderful day. Stay weird. Bye. See you.
(55:30):
Music.