Peering into the Past: The Curious Case of the Chronovisor

In this intriguing discussion, we delve into the mysterious legend of the Chronovisor, a device allegedly capable of viewing past events. Invented by Father Pellegrino Ernetti, this mid-20th century marvel has sparked debates, skepticism, and fascination alike.

Join us as we explore the origins and technology behind the Chronovisor, the key figures involved, including Enrico Fermi and Werner von Braun, and the broader cultural impact of this enigmatic device. We also address the ethical and scientific questions it raises, and speculate on its potential connections to modern scientific theories.

Tune in for an episode filled with historical intrigue, conspiracy theories, and the timeless human quest to uncover the secrets of the past. Whether you believe in its existence or not, the story of the Chronovisor is sure to captivate your imagination.

Episode Transcript

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Music.

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Welcome to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.
You always start with a sigh. I know.
And your shoulders go womp womp. I know, it's because I need to physically,
audibly prepare myself for you two.

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Sure, if that makes you breathe. That's all you gotta do.
One sigh, one exacerbated sigh.
Yeah people you don't want to know what we have to do to prep to put up with
you i'm assuming masturbate no god no definitely not no that's not what you
guys are no and there goes you know,

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we have to blare death metal as we drive over here like.
Am i the apex of that then no that's the the come down part well i mean as long
as you're coming that's really all that matters.
No, the wah-wah down. Wah-wah. Wah-wah.
Am I like the cigarette after the fact?

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The one that leaves you sounding like Thelma and... And Louise?
No, it's the Simpsons sister twins. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking
about. I don't know. Marge's sisters. Wah.
Wah-wah-wah. That's your Donald Duck. That is my Donald Duck.
Did you just come because Donald Duck makes you? I did.
I did. I did. There's a huge oyster in my pants right now.

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Well, we're starting this off with a bang. We're two for two so far. Jesus.
Lordy. All right, so how was everybody's week? It was good.
Yeah? Pretty? Yeah. It was good. Saw a concert with you, apparently.
You know, saw you too much this week.
That's a lot of prank time. It really is.

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Well, I hope you enjoyed yourself. I did. All right, good. With me.
No. Yeah. No, she said it.
You said the with part after. No, it doesn't matter. So, all right. Nope, nope.
Well, yeah. How's you? You know, I'm me. How is you? I am me.
When are you going to change the hair color? You know, I'm going to soon.

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I need to, I think I'm going to go blonde again.
Blonde isn't a fall color. Yeah, I know, but I kind of missed it.
I haven't done it in a couple years. I haven't been blonde in a couple of years.
Just straight up platinum.
Yeah. You know, the scary guy fairy look.
Yeah so you can do the frosted tips you could bring those back
well yeah as it grows out that's what it turns into yeah yeah

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so that's what that's what i like i like to do is just
whenever every dye job gives me multiple hair styles
and dues do you just have boxes
of clairol under the cabinet okay listen i am
i'm a fancy bitch i'm not one of your basic bitches i go
to my wife's hair lady oh look at you yes i i have
her number i call or text her i'm like hey karen her

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name's karen and it's like i need an appointment
at that time you know and then usually
if i do a color outside the blonde she'll be
like what color i'm gonna have to pre-order it no i'm like i have
no idea i i go come up with a couple of ideas and then i really don't know what
color i'm doing until i get there and make a decision i still think you need

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to do rainbow uh just i would but it's just too much work for her and me to
sit there you got like one inch of length it's not like you have I have full girl-length hair.
Except for the mullet part in the back. I mean, that's kind of long.
Yeah, well, I mean, that covers up my tail.
But no, it does, because each color needs its own separate dye job.

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Yeah. Oh, she doesn't like put foils down or something to separate it?
I don't know. Maybe she would. She's never done foils with me. No.
But maybe. Have you done every color?
I haven't done green yet. and the reason i haven't done
green i really want to because i would love like the joker
look especially for like halloween yeah is i did orange orange is my favorite

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color as we know and it washed out in like six weeks it was blonde so afraid
of doing those light colors because i'm afraid they will just wash out and then
go to the green definitely fades to like sewer kind of green Does it?
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm very hesitant. Unless you do like a foresty hunter green,

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emerald-y like dark green versus like a highlighter green.
Maybe. That's an idea.
I haven't asked Karen. I'll ask Karen. All right.
Yeah. So, yeah, so that's coming up. I'm just going to make that appointment
now that because you can't re-bleach bleach hair because it destroys it and

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makes it brittle and disintegrates it.
So whenever I do a dye job, they have to bleach my hair and then put color on top of that.
So i have to wait for it to grow out to be able to do a new color or a new dye
job does that make sense it does
yeah it doesn't stop me from putting highlights in my hair all the time.
No no but you're also women and men's hair are different i think maybe you guys are more robust,

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than men's i that's the
only irish side of me is my hair it's not
robust by any means you know well i'm
100 italian and mine's not
that robust robust so anyway
what do we uh what do we do we do things to keep you up at night do we have

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anything for you guys this week i do and this one drives me nuts oh i love nuts
my neighbor who doesn't listen to this podcast installed a motion
detector light because their dogs have been skunked umpteen thousand times,
but their motion detector light is not facing their backyard.

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It is facing into my windows.
So it wakes me up sometimes in
the middle of the night when critters are running around in the backyard.
And then it takes me forever to fall back asleep. Do you think they're just trying to sneak a peek?
No. Well, I don't know. They're like voyeuristic type of neighbors.
Well, I mean, that makes sense. maybe not in windows not in windows but

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like they're always commenting like got a
really interesting text message one day just me and
the wife were saying we really like your flowers like your flowers in
the backyard this year great job and it's like no prompt
no like where did that come from or little
things like i think you're planting that tree a little too close to your fire
pit or just weird things like stop watching my deck stop watching my backyard

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stop watching in my front yard you can only watch it when i'm out of town but
not while i'm home i have an idea oh lord when you're out of town next i will sunbathe naked.
In your backyard and i'm pretty sure they won't look back there anymore,

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They got two big dogs like you have two big dogs. Yeah. A black lab shepherd
mix and orangey rusty shepherd lab mix, whatever.
Oh, I should bring them over and then they can run up and down the fence and do that.
How was your week? My week was fine. Did you smell that cat?
I think that's what dogs do when they run up and down the fence.
Is that what's in your head? I love that description.
How was your day? How was your day? My day was great.

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Did you catch that rabbit? I caught that rabbit. You smell bad.
So do you. You know, that kind of thing.
That's awesome. them and then they walk away like
nice dog i'll get you next week and in
five minutes later oh hi how are you doing yeah that's awesome
your dogs do the run up and down the fence with the shepherd next door rizzo
does sheldon does not sheldon is interested in dogs but not he's a people dog

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he's a people dog yeah yeah so people he will lick and jump and cuddle with
all day long dogs Dogs, take it or leave it. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Well, that was a good one. That really does keep you up at night.
Legit. Literally. Yeah. All right.
Bree? Yeah. So what if life is just like a hallucination, but that's caused by breathing oxygen?

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And why is it then when you stop breathing, your life ends?
Say that again. Oh, that's interesting. So what if life is just like a hallucination
caused by breathing oxygen, and that is why when you stop breathing it, your life ends?
Which is why last time when we were talking about thinking about breathing. Yeah, there we go.

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See? It's all connected. That's an interesting thought. Yeah.
I don't get it. I actually stumped him. The very act of breathing oxygen causes
the hallucination of life.
So when you stop breathing, aka you're dead, the hallucination of life is...
Yeah, the hallucination ends, so your life ends.

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Because hallucination is your life. So where do those start?
Huh? Where does life start? That's a good question, but not in my question I asked.
Right, but in order for breathing oxygen to be a hallucination,
it would have to start somewhere.
So where does life start? When your mom pops you out of her vagina?

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I think I should have called her more.
Okay, I don't have anything to add to that. It's an interesting thought.
Okay. Yeah, I mean, for some, I'm sure it is very an interesting thought.
Is it not an interesting thought for you? I'm just trying to wrap my head around
not understanding it. I'm not trying to be mean or pick, but by any means,

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I'm just not understanding.
So basically, like... Like, I understand the words that you used to say.
Yeah. I'm just, the concept I'm not getting.
Just because i feel as though for life to exist there needs to be a beginning
and if if i can't wrap my head around the beginning of it you know what i mean

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i think you're thinking too much according to quantum tunneling there is no beginning,
i think that's what my penis is used for was quantum tunneling i picked her
whoa i can't wait for this like one of those old school hand pie cake mixers,

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that's your penis my penis is tunneling through batter is that pudding baby
batter is done you can't say baby better on the internet why can't.
That's how crotch goblins are created i don't like that phrase what crotch goblin

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it just sounds i don't know how that that doesn't sounds icky i mean that's
what it kind of looks like when they're expelled from a vagina.
I thought you said babies are pooped out i mean you said you guys said no i
said yes so that and so i went back and revisited maybe they're just crotch goblins,

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so well you yeah so i actually have two things that are they're kind of like,
would you rathers that kept me up at night so i would like to pose these to you too.
So would you rather always know the right thing to say or always do the right thing,

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say that again would you rather always know the right thing to say or always do the right thing,
the former for me always knowing the right thing to say oh you guys are in opposite
ends okay no well yeah you said always do the right thing no that was the second
one yeah you said the former the first yeah if you did lathers you wanted the

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lather yeah yeah the lather,
not the ladder no no ladder the latter yeah yeah you said it's not like you
said ladder like l-a-d-d no latter same difference no it's not it's two very
different things same difference no because
lather is what I did a few hours ago when I showered. I lathered myself.

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You did not shower two hours ago, or a few hours ago. That's a lie.
Let's see, it would have been six hours ago.
Six hours, five days.
Yeah, I mean, I wasn't done talking. I would rather always do the right thing.
Because, you know, it doesn't matter what I say, it's what I do.

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Actions speak louder than words.
Yeah, I just always mess up on what I say. Obviously. Not the right thing to say.
We have about 18 episodes that proves that so far. Yeah.
And then I have another one. would you rather lose the ability to feel love
or lose the ability to feel pain pain pain,

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lose the ability to feel love or lose the ability to feel pain yeah yeah i mean
pain would be dangerous the reason you have pain receptors is to keep you alive
but i can be a bubble boy and also pain brings a lot of negativity and more
like to your life your lifespans tends to decrease,
so I'd rather have more positivity. So I would rather feel love.

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So since I don't feel love and I always feel pain, I would like to get the,
what it feels like the other way around.
I will lose the ability to feel pain.
So, wow, all three of us agree. I know, that's scary. That is scary. First.
I think that's the third seal of the apocalypse.

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Apocalypse probably yeah along with the gray horse or
the white horse what was whichever one whichever one which
is the last one the third one i i know the one that symbolizes death is is a
woman yes i know all right well that was definitely interesting i love those

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if then thoughts yeah no No, me too. Give me more of those later.
Give me, give me more. Oh, I'm so going to isolate that.
I'm so going to isolate. Give me more of that later.
That was fantastic. I hate your face.

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Again. So I have a question. Like when you, when you lay down to go to sleep and you close your eyes,
how many times does my
face flash in the darkness of
your eyes being closed let's see let me count none you can't count that high
can you no i can count to g to g to g i can count backwards from purple wow

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that's that's a lot yeah all right well i have a question yeah would you rather,
have the ability to see into the future or see into the past i would rather
have the ability to see into the past,
Just because if I could see into the future, there'd be so many things I'd want
to change. I would drive myself crazy.

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Good point. Obsessed with the now and seeing how I can change things.
I would probably just end up making things worse or then realize it's all futile
because it's going to happen anyway and I'm just wasting my time.
Like Donnie Dargo. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
So yeah, I think I'd rather have the ability to see into the past.
Interesting. Might have asked you that before, but I don't remember.

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I don't remember if you have or haven't. What about you, Brie? Hmm?
Hi, we're recording. Oh, yeah. Would you rather have the ability to see into
the past or see into the future?
Future. Why? Because I like to know what's coming. Would you try to do anything
to change any? If it was good or bad?

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I think it depends on what it is. There are some things that may be bad,
but I'm like, it is what it is. But if it's something that can prevent someone
from dying or something evil from happening, I'll try to.
But who knows? The fact that I tried to could actually lead to that result. Yeah.
I can't believe that Lynette and I had this whole conversation and she didn't listen at all.

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It's okay. No, it's not. Because she's wearing headphones. We were talking directly into her ear.
No, I only have the ability to mute. That you know of. No, no,
no, no, no. She just unplugged the wire. She can't.
Okay. I ran out of excuses for you, Bree. It's okay.

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That's all right. Where were you there for three minutes? I had a brain fart.
That's a pretty long fart.
All right. That was a good one, though. You're known for farts.
Oh, 100%. He can judge a long fart better than most. I am a horribly gassy individual.
Half the time, they don't smell. Half the time, they do.
Half the time, they don't. but they always sound like they're they always

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sound like chewbacca that or like they're shitting your pants and everything's
going everywhere yeah i'm literally shitting my pants right now you guys just
can't tell oh okay grab my pants oops and i just did i love that snl skit it's
so great all right so what are we talking about today chrono visor.

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Coronavirus chrono visor it did sound like coronavirus like no we can't talk about that
either what is up with you big brother
big brother he touched
not the good kind of big brother oh you mean stepbrother i
don't get it all right do you not watch porn no oh my god what is wrong with

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you i have imagination myself i don't need oh it's terrible acting and ron jeremy
mustaches no thank you i'm sorry
you can look at like new stuff you don't have to get stuck in the 80s.
That's not free there is oh there is
there's a whole genre of step-siblings porn

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sick oh it's fantastic no yeah why not you don't like it because i don't want
to make fun of those in the south again but oh no that's gonna make me there's
that there's step-siblings there's steps it doesn't matter there's no bloodline
still no still in the family not really,
yeah it's one of those things that like i think about like i can freak

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out because like you said in the family but i don't freak out because it's not
blood related so it's like it's yeah but it's a lose lose win situation like
listen i'm gonna say if i'm 17 all right and my one of my parents married somebody
else and they had another 17 year old hot broad living in the same house as me,

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i know i i i said that on purpose because i don't like it another 17 year old
girl and all of a and she's hot and living in the same house and she wants to
blow me, I am letting her.
Wasn't there like an episode in the Brady Bunch where the two oldest kissed?
That was like a lost episode. I feel like they would have to take that down.

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I feel as though that's a porn. You weren't really watching the Brady Bunch. You were watching porn.
No, it wasn't porn. It was porn. It was not porn. It was the Brady Bunch parody porn.
No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Instead of Greg, it was Gavin.

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What was the oldest daughter's name? Marsha. Marsha. It looks like Marsha and Greg.
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. Oh, that's a, that's a. Told you it was an episode.
Was it really? It was like the whole neck grab.
Oh, Jesus. Yeah, I think, I think there was like a controversy with it.
So they ended up taking it out, but it did exist. Wow.
Yeah. You know what? I think we should do a review on Brady Bunch Porn Charity next time.

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I thought you were going to do your cryptid stuff. Oh. Cryptid porn. Erotica. Yeah.
Cryptorotica. Yeah. That could be a little bonus episodes here and there.
Boner boner boner episodes mothman's boner
such like little bitty no it's huge his wingspan's like 10 feet yeah but so

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are moths but they're and it's got a name in search of the p penis not a penis
but they're itty bitty and instead of like semen coming out it's ectoplasm ecto what Plasm. Okay.
She got it right the second time. The second time, yeah.
I just said it, but the L-I said it very silently. Do you think Bigfoot's dick

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would smell bad or normal?
Bad. Well, he's supposed to smell according to those who have smelled him.
Well, that's just the ape skunk.
That's down in Florida, but there's other different Bigfoot- Skunk ape. Or skunk ape.
Yeah. I don't know. I thought they said Bigfoot was funky too.
I don't know. Do you think he has athlete's foot?

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Maybe. Why don't they call him Bigfoot? Why don't they call him Big Hairy Man
or something? Or like, do you think he gets psoriasis?
Do you think he has jock itch? For sure.
Unless he knows how to like create his own aloe vera.
Probably. Maybe. He's been walking around in the woods for... Yeah, and just...
All right. Yeah. Would you suck Bigfoot's dick? Probably not.

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No. Nope. Would you? Nope.
Would you? I would eat out Mrs. Bigfoot.
Ew. We didn't ask about Mrs. Bigfoot Well yeah but I mean we're all gonna have
to like Do what we What if you get like tics Like where In your head cause you're
eating out In your goatee My goatee well I mean you know.

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Tics in your eyebrows yeah i mean i mean there there's challenges to everything
you know how big do you think the crabs are there alaskan king crab.
All right so wow we went off the rails there all right yeah today we're going
to be talking about the chronovisor so the chronovisor is one of the most intriguing

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and mystifying devices in the chronicles of modern myth and conspiracy theory,
Allegedly invented by Father Pellegrino Ernetti,
an Italian priest in the mid-20th century, the chronovisor is said to be a device
that can view past events by capturing residual electromagnetic waves and acoustic signals.

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So we're going to dive into the origins, technology, key figures,
and the broader impact of the chronovisor while examining the skepticism and
cultural fascination it has inspired.
Do you think his family owned Pellegrino Water? I'm going to say no,
since that was his first name.
Yeah, but people use first and last names. Maybe he was named after. Sir Mix-a-Lot, yeah.

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I mean, I like big butts.
No, maybe he was named after Pellegrino Water. Maybe. It's one of my favorites.
Is it? Yeah. All right. What makes it your favorite?
The bubbles. All right.
So Father Pellegrino Ernetti was born in 1925 and joined the Benedictine Abbey

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as a monk of San Giorgio Magorio in Venice, Italy at the age of 16 on October 28th, 1941.
With a background in musicology and physics and a keen interest in theology
and science, he showcased a diverse intellect that was rare among his peers.
Ernetti's foray into the world of science was driven by a profound curiosity

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about the mysteries of existence.
His work in musicology involved studying the history and development of Gregorian
chants, a task that required a deep understanding of acoustics and sound waves.
This scientific background likely influences later claims.
Despite his scientific interest, Ernetti remained a deeply committed to his religious duties.

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His intellectual pursuits and scientific curiosity led him to explore unconventional ideas.
The dual identity as man of faith and science made him a unique figure,
capable of bridging the gap between two seemingly disparate worlds.
Worlds what do you guys think do you think science and religion
can coexist together yeah but

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i don't think the two worlds like i
think they sometimes they're saying the same thing but they don't want to be
referenced in the same sentence or in the same like it's it's almost the religious
choice or the science choice to say keep me out of the same conversation do you have an example.

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If not that's fine I was just curious if you had one off the top of your head
I can think on that one nothing off the top right now what about you Brie I
would say no to me when I think science I think facts when I think religion I think stories I think.
Not made up, but like fables and fairy tales, like explaining situations.

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There is really no facts.
So that's my difference for the two. So I would say that I can't see them coexisting. Okay.
What about you? Yeah, no, I think they can coexist.
Exist i think i think belief and facts are we just haven't reached the technological,

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pinnacle that can blend the two i think when you talk about religion i refer
to it to a more spirituality so our ghosts and spirits and all that can't be
scientifically proven at all doesn't It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
There's a lot of things that science can't duplicate that believe that exist and are real.

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So just because we haven't gotten there technologically yet,
I don't think they're mutually exclusive.
And I also kind of think science is the new modern religion.
Maybe. I mean, it has protocols, it has criteria, it has beliefs,
it has things that it doesn't believe in.
And people look to it as a god yeah i mean that's very plausible but i think the difference is is,

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when science was excuse me first the thing like
religion filled in the y gap and the
how gap and they had a very easy answer it
was god whereas science was looking
for the y and in some cases
they just keep well i
don't know maybe science is kind of shifting a little bit where the scientific

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theory isn't as upheld it's
all it's i've seen and read a few theories that just get squashed for no apparent
reason just because this is the way it's always been right kind of thing so
yeah i mean there is a saying out there that science advances as as older scientists die.

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You know? So, I mean, that does make sense.
I just think that we just haven't gotten there yet.
We haven't been hit that duality to where we can prove one with the other. So, yeah.
So the legend of the chronovisor begins in the 1950s and 1960s.

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A period marked by rapid technological advancements and a fervent fascination
with the possibilities of science.
Ernetti claimed that he, along with a team of prominent and renowned scientists,
including Nobel laureates Enrico Fermi and Werner von Braun,
had developed a device capable of viewing events from the past.

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The invention was the chronovisor.
The initial announcement of the chronovisor was met with a mixture of awe and
skepticism, and his claim quickly captured the public's imagination and sparked
widespread curiosity and controversy.
Ernetti described the device as a sophisticated apparatus that could tune into
the past by detecting and interpreting the electromagnetic waves left behind by historical events.

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According to him, the chronovisor allowed users to witness moments such as the
crucifixion of Jesus Christ and other significant historical occurrences.
His claims about the chronovisor can be seen as an extension of this duality
blending scientific curiosity with a desire to uncover and witness significant religious events.

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However, these claims are difficult to verify, as there is no concrete evidence
linking these figures to the project.
The Vatican's alleged involvement also adds a layer of intrigue and a secrecy
to the story. Some believe that the Vatican either suppressed or safeguarded
the chronovisor, fearing its potential implications.

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So, interesting that a Benedictine monk partnered up with a former Nazi and
a known member of the Nazi party in the SS.
Yeah. I believe, Lynette, you said that. Yeah.
But at the same time, even though during World War II, the Vatican went against

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the Nazis, the Vatican is in the middle of Italy, and Italy was part of the Axis powers.
So, I mean, how much were there differences?
You know what I mean? Like, were they really, or was it just really something
they just said in public?
I don't know if I'm following your question. Like, since they were basically Italian. Yeah. Right.

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Did their thoughts really.
Because that was fascist. Right. Mussolini as well, right? Same thing.
Exactly. Exactly. And the church can be seen and deemed as fascist for 2,000
years, especially during the Dark Ages. Right.
During the Crusades, during the Spanish Inquisition. Right.

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All these horrible events. Mm-hmm. So I'm just wondering if they aligned more
with the German Nazi rhetoric.
Because they came from that sort of rooted background. Right,
but outwardly in public, they said, we're going to speak out against them.
We're going to stand against you in public, but behind closed doors, eh.
Yeah. Let's try to figure some

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shit out. Insert any political or powerful entity in that conversation.
Pretty much, yeah. Pretty much. But no, that's interesting.
But even still, the outward appearance seems just eyebrow-raising. Agreed.
Because aren't Benedictine or is it Franciscan monks that are supposed to be

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the most peaceful? And the Benedictines are very knowledgeable?
Yeah, so the Franciscans are peaceful. Because I think that they derive from Francis of Assisi.
Yeah, so it was no war or anything. The Benedictine come from...
Like knowledge and learning and stuff or something? Knowledge and learning from St.
Benedict, who was also the patron saint of ghost hunters and exorcists.

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Oh, yeah, because all the exorcists... Carry around. Only Benedictine priests are exorcists?
Can any other Catholic order be an exorcist? Yeah, now any Catholic order can,
but it stemmed from the Benedictine order. Yeah. Hmm.
So on March 18th, 1929, Fermi was appointed a member of the Royal Academy of Italy by Mussolini.

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On April 27th, 1929, he joined the fascist party.
He later opposed fascism when the 1938 racial laws were publicized by Mussolini
in order to bring Italian fascism ideologically closer to German Nazism.
I know I said that fucked up. Say that again. For sure, sure,
sure. For sure, sure, sure.
I thought Brie was talking for a second. I'm telling you, she, I would love.

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For her to narrate like some
of some of this shit uh despite his political
affiliations enrico fermi one of
the most renowned physicists of the 20th century an italian and naturalized
american physicist renowned for being the creator of the world's first nuclear
reactor the chicago pile one and a member of the manhattan project he has been

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called the architect of the nuclear age and and the architect of the atomic bomb,
and is often mentioned in connection with the chronovisor.
Known for his work on the development of the first nuclear reactor and his contributions
to quantum theory and particle physics, Fermi's involvement,
if true, would lend significant credibility to the chronovisor claims.

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Fermi's reputation as a meticulous and rigorous scientist makes his alleged
participation in the chronovisor project both intriguing and contentious.
There is no documented evidence of his involvement, and many in the scientific
community view these claims were skepticism.
However, the mere association with Fermi adds a layer of complexity and intrigue

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to the coronavisor legend.
So I live walking distance from Fermi Lab.
What if there's a coronavisor basically under my house? Could be. Could be.
Do you want to start digging and see? I mean, I'll probably get arrested or
trampled by Buffalo, but that's okay.
I have never seen the Buffalo there, and I'm very disappointed. They are there.

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I know. They're just... I never get a chance to see them, though.
They keep them far away from the street.
I've never been to Fermula. I've been to the learning center for college class,
but I've never actually been in. Wait a minute.
You were at a learning center? It was like a learning center,
because I went to school for becoming an elementary teacher,
and they have a learning center for school field trips.

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So we took a trip out there to see and get ideas for when we become teachers.
Were you ever really in school? Yeah.
And I got all A's. Thank you very much.
So many places I can go with this. But I won't. Zip it. I will.
All right. Werner Von Braun. Werner Von Braun.

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Werner. Is that like the most German name ever?
Oh yeah. I mean, you can't... It sounds like a cartoon character. It does.
Like the evil character. Yeah.
Like Skeletor. Like the guy that's always chasing Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Boris Badenoff. Yeah, but it could be... And Natasha. I think of like Cruella

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de Vil. I thought Natasha was so hot. She was hot. Yeah, she was.
You know, I always said at work that I was
the guy with the mustache with the broom at the end of the parade like that's
what i feel like my job is is cleaning up the mess after everybody like
leaves it i don't that guy doesn't have a name but his
little wiggly mustache i liked him is the wiggly mustache so are you saying

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in the past life you were like the mop person at a peep show ew no just mopping
you don't even know what a peep show is you said you want to know what i know
i do i'm but i'm assuming it's like a jerk off it's just peanuts Peanuts on the floor.
Peanuts or peanuts? Like a
Texas roadhouse. That's some pretty gritty sperm you got going on in this.

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Shooting pellets. Shooting pellets.
Okay, Wernher von Braun. Wernher von Braun, a pioneer in rocket technology and
space exploration, is another figure linked to the chronovisor.
Von Braun's work with NASA and his role in the development of the V-2 rocket
during World War II made him a prominent figure in the field of aerospace engineering.

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Like Fermi, von Braun's alleged involvement in the chronovisor project is difficult to verify.
However, his inclusion in the narrative adds a fascinating dimension,
suggesting that the project was not only a theological endeavor,
but also a scientific one, with potential implications for our understanding of time and space.

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So, these two, Fermi and von Braun, being heavily involved in military,
wouldn't you think they would want a device to see into the future, not the past?
Like if they were going to create something, like if they want to know where
to shoot the missiles or I don't know.

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Well, yes, I would agree that that would be. But what if that's just not.
Science wasn't there yet. Yeah. I mean, what if that's just not possible to see that?
Like, you know, but the science is there to see the past.
So that's, you know, or maybe to, you know, just like everything else,
we have to understand the past to be able to proceed to the future.

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So they needed to start there.
You know? And another little side note here is you have is about Operation Paperclip,
which I think is an episode and probably a two part episode in itself,
because that is one of the most fascinating operations and controversial. I mean, everything.

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Yeah. And yeah, it's just it's crazy.
But he was part of that. yeah and if people don't know what that is it's basically
after world war ii russia and the u.s divvying up all the science germans nazi
scientists and engineers and technicians and.
You know and that's basically how

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the cold war started and then the race to the moon and yeah very intriguing
stuff so the chronovisor's supposed technology is rooted in the idea that every
event leaves behind an imprint in the form of electromagnetic waves and acoustic signals.
Ernetti claimed that by calibrating the device to these frequencies,

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it is possible to reconstruct and view the past events.
The device was described as having a screen similar to a television through
which these reconstructions could be seen.
This concept, while intriguing, raises numerous scientific questions.
The notion of capturing and reconstructing historical electromagnetic waves

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is not supported by contemporary science.
Electromagnetic waves, particularly those from distant past events,
would be incredibly weak and dispersed.
Additionally, the idea of a machine being able to isolate and display specific
moments in history remains speculative at best. Excuse me.
Well, I just thought it was... So this whole time I was thinking a coronavisor

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was kind of like a VR type of goggle.
I wasn't picturing it like a TV or a screen.
I was kind of thinking of an actual visor. like
you're playing poker yeah or one of those green plastic
visors no i didn't think that but no no
i obviously they didn't have right air goggles but

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that's what i envisioned yeah no i mean that's very you know i could see where
you went with that brie what do you what are you thinking over there i was thinking
it more being like a flat like instrument and then something being projected up.
You mean like in Star Trek? I was just thinking like Star Trek. In a way, yeah.

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Okay. I don't know, it's like that's what, so you're actually like witnessing history.
Yeah. In the beginning, I said this was from the 1950s and 1960s.
Well, I know, but that's.
Not like the 2250s, right? I'm not thinking about back then,
I just, what popped in my head. I'm just teasing.
You know that this technology has been out. We just, we find out about it 30 years later. Exactly.

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Yeah, no. Just like the, The Great Pyramids. My mom in the 80s had a car with touchscreen.
Yeah. Did she? Yeah. It was a Buick. Oh. That's not popular.
But it had a touchscreen and that wasn't popular technology.
Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah. But we didn't get it until the 2000s,

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really. Right. I wonder why they didn't expand on it.
Because my mom was cool. That's true. She is cool. But you can't listen to this podcast.
No. Do you think it's because she'd be that much more attracted to me?
Yes. Yeah. I don't want to start that step-sibling situation.
You don't want him to be your step-daddy? I don't want you to be my step-daddy.

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I would be your step-daddy. That sounds so gross.
Who's your step-daddy? That's what I would say to you every time.
Who's your step-daddy? Ew.
Glows. Despite the lack of scientific backing, the Chronovisor story persists
partially due to its compelling narrative and the human fascination with time

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travel and viewing the past.
The device's description often includes technical details that lend an air of
credibility, such as the involvement of cathode ray tubes, antennas, and complex circuitry.
One of the most sensational claims associated with the chronovisor is the viewing
of Jesus Christ's crucifixion.

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According to Ernetti, the device allowed him to witness this pivotal moment
in history, providing details that he later shared with the public.
He claimed to have seen Jesus on the cross, the surrounding crowd,
and the dramatic events that unfolded.
Ernetti and his associates purportedly took photographs of historical events

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as seen through the chronovisor.
These images, if genuine, would provide extraordinary proof of the device's capabilities.
One such claim was the famous image depicting the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Ernetti also claimed that the chronovisor allowed for the viewing of various
events from ancient Rome. He described scenes from the Roman Senate,

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significant battles, and even everyday life in the ancient city.
These descriptions were often rich in detail, painting a vivid picture of a bygone era.
So, do you guys think that viewing, if this was real, viewing something like
Jesus' crucifixion and then telling about it would be like a form of blasphemy? What's a blasphemy?

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Do you guys want to weigh in on that? you want me to look up the definition
yes because i really don't know what blasphemy is so let's see.
Okay so like how you ask the question you don't know what it is well i mean
i i know what it is i just i'm not very good offensive and sacrilegious about
god profane talk yeah so being a blaspheme,

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being negative towards god basically or
like more than that it's what
would you say borders orders on heresy or yeah i
don't think i don't think we can use these big words with her do you
know what heresy is nope say what i mean okay sacrilegious kind
of it's a word i hear all the time but i never actually know what that it's

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like insulting or showing contempt of okay so so insulting negative towards
being insulted negatively violating the word of god or take you know, false idols.
Okay, okay, I get it now, yeah, yeah. Like three steps further than just negative.
Then why would you think that? I'm just asking a question.

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I don't think, none of what you just like read, I would feel like it's,
was it blasphemy? Right.
Yeah, I just. You said that right the first time. I'm impressed.
I don't feel like it is. No. No. I mean, I mean...
It's real no if he's lying about it

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yes because i feel like he's using if
it's a lie he might be using it for fame or
money or and ultimately it's
going to discredit the catholic church or the religious orders or whatever yeah
i agree with you there so here's some i'm just wondering what the motivation
is if any i think well do you choose the most important event in history as

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as a religious leader and say this?
Well, if you're the Catholic Church and you're a Catholic priest and you claim
you have a device like this, everyone's gonna ask, well, did you see Jesus crucified?
So I think he's going- Okay, I didn't think of it like that.

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Yeah, so I think in order to help with his claim, he needed to go there.
He couldn't just be like, Joe Schmo in the field.
See, what I would have rather, instead of the crucifixion, I would have rather
said, I saw him resurrect.
That's going to prove the faith tenfold. Because, yeah, it's possible that a

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man named Jesus and was followed by people, was crucified for whatever, right?
The real question is, did he resurrect?
Because the entire faith is based on his resurrection. It's not whether he existed
and lived and died. It's did he resurrect.

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So I would have rather, I would have gone with that way if it's real.
I would have rather him gone to his resurrection instead of his crucifixion.
Yeah, I guess that's a really big claim to start with. I feel like start with something small.
Like I saw you eating a bologna sandwich last week, you know?

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I saw my daddy conceive me. Gross.
What? Just another baby batter with the crotch goblin.
What? Baby batter, crotch goblin. I saw that all happen. I thought you were
going to say something more fun like, look who's talking.
No. I saw that movie. we and the second
one you would the opening scene

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is hilarious i agree so like that
would be a chronovisor moment it would be i agree i
mean everything is a chronovisor moment anything that
happened is a chronovisor what did you use the device to
like i don't know they didn't
have google back then so to win
an argument with somebody like so and so was the

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king during this time you know whatever to like win your argument to
be boop be boop on the little well right i
mean that you'd have to have the device with you at all times okay well and
that's fine i don't mind that he does come over to my house i'll prove you wrong
be boop be boop okay yeah i i would do that yeah yes i would is that all we

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got there yep okay so skepticism and criticism.
So debunking the photographs. The photographic evidence presented by Ernetti
has been a focal point of skepticism.
Critics have meticulously analyzed these images, uncovering inconsistencies
and identifying some as doctored versions of existing artwork.

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The famous image of Jesus' crucifixion was later determined to be a reversed
and modified version of a 19th century statue, thus discrediting its authenticity.
Critics argue that such detailed collections could easily be fabricated based
on historical knowledge available at the time.
While Ornetti's accounts were compelling, they lacked the physical evidence

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they needed to convince the scientific community.
The scientific community was largely dismissed the chronovisor as a hoax or
a product of imaginative, I cannot talk today.
I know, but I am having such a, I feel like I'm having a stroke.
Is a hoax or a product of imaginative fiction.

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The primary criticisms revolve around the lack of empirical evidence and the
implausibility of the technology described.
Scientists argue that the concept of capturing and reconstructing past electromagnetic
waves is not feasible given our current understanding of physics.
The primary scientific critique of the chronovisor centers on the feasibility

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of its alleged technology.
The idea of capturing and and reconstructing past electromagnetic waves to view
historical events is not supportive by any known scientific principles.
Electromagnetic waves, especially those from the distant past,
would be incredibly weak and dispersed, making it impossible to isolate and reconstruct them.

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Additionally, the chronovisors' described ability to tune in to specific moments
in history adds another layer of skepticism.
The persistence of, I cannot talk.
Did someone just take over here for a minute?
I don't know where you are. Hold on. Sorry about that, guys. I needed a drink.

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Alright. The precision required to achieve such a feat without any clear explanation
of the underlying mechanics places the device firmly in the realm of speculative
fiction rather than scientific reality.
Such revelations have led many to conclude include that the chronovisor story
relies heavily on fabricated evidence and imaginative storytelling.

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The lack of verifiable proof, combined with the implausible technological claims,
reinforces the view that the chronovisor is more a product of myth than genuine
scientific breakthrough.
Despite these criticisms, the chronovisor's story continues to captivate the public.
It represents a blend of science fiction and historical curiosity,

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appealing to those who are fascinated by the possibilities of time travel and
the mysteries of the past.
So what do you guys think of that so far?
I mean, I would love for it to be real, but right now I'm kind of sitting on the, this is a fake,
but we've been lied to before where people discredit stuff all the time just

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to cover up the truth of other things.
So right now i'm gonna
buy the narrative that it's not real okay
i'm gonna say it's not real
as well it's just it's hard for me to wrap my mind around
everything and fully believe it it just it's hard okay i mean i did find a picture

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of the device and it looks like one of those old timey like tv screen how big
would you say like like three by three three by three like one of those old-timey TVs.
Yeah. It's like weird telephone...
The old time of telephones where you hold one piece up to your ear and you talk
into the mouthpiece. Yeah, like a Tucker telephone. Yeah.

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So, I don't know. It looks fancy. I mean, for the time it probably was. Yeah.
So, Father Pellegrino Ernetti's credibility is another point of contention.
While he was a respected Benedictine monk and a scholar, his extraordinary claims
about the chronovisor have overshadowed his legitimate academic contributions.
Critics argue that Ernetti's background in theology and musicology does not

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provide the scientific expertise required to develop such an advanced device.
Moreover, Ernetti's reluctance to provide concrete evidence or allow independent
verification of the chronovirus capabilities has further damaged his credibility.
His insistence that the device's existence, despite mounting skepticism,
has led some to view him as either a visionary with unverifiable claims or a

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purveyor of an elaborate hoax.
The Vatican's alleged involvement in the chronovisor's story adds an element
of secrecy and conspiracy.
According to some accounts, the Vatican either suppressed or safeguarded the
chronovisor, fearing its potential to disrupt established religious doctrines
and historical narratives.

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The Vatican's stance on the chronovisor remains ambiguous.
While there is no official acknowledgment of the device, the secrecy surrounding
its archives and the organization's historical involvement in scientific research fuels speculation.
The idea that the Vatican possesses hidden knowledge and technologies add to
the allure and mystery of the chronovisor.

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Some believe that the Vatican continues to use the device, keeping its existence
a closely guarded secret to protect religious and historical narratives.
These theories often suggest that the chronovisor has been used to verify biblical
events or uncover hidden aspects of history. Public perception of the chronovisor
is shaped by these conspiracy theories and the broader culture of fascination with hidden knowledge.

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The device represents the alluring of uncovering secrets and the possibility
of transcending the limitations of time, themes that resonate deeply with human curiosity.
Ooh, ooh, ooh. Yes. I had an idea. Okay.
What if the device is real and he went to his superior and whoever that is in

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the church in the Vatican, whatever, and the Vatican said, cool, this works.
Maybe he did show him Joe Schmo plowing a hayfield or whatever they did in Rome,
herding sheep, whatever.
They said, let's go back to the Jesus crucifixion.
And they went back.
It didn't happen which would totally destabilize

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the entire church so since
they saw that it didn't happen what if they
faked it with the statue and they
thought they got away with it until people discredited the
photo and then the church said nope i'm taking this very possible
i'm a believer or no i convinced

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myself i'm a believer okay yeah
and that could also be why he went to the crucifixion
and not the resurrection because he
may have gone to the resurrection and saw that he never
resurrected it didn't happen and so he's
like oh let's not say we went there but we

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went to get the crucifixion instead yeah interesting oh
wee this took a turn boom
boom boom we're back on track the chronovisor
has a has left a lasting imprint on popular
culture it has been referenced in numerous books movies television shows often

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as a symbol of forbidden knowledge or a gateway of uncovering hidden truths
the device's allure lies in its promise of revealing the past a a concept that
resonates with our innate curiosity and desire to understand history.
Conspiracy theories surrounding the chronovisor have also proliferated.
Some believe that the Vatican continues to possess and use this device,

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keeping its existence a closely guarded secret.
These theories are often fueled
by the lack of concrete evidence and the mysterious nature of the claims.
In modern popular culture, the chronovisor has inspired works of fiction and
speculative narratives. It serves as a compelling plot device,
embodying the intersection of science, religion, and the unknown.

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The enduring fascination with the chronovisor underscores our collective yearning
to explore the boundaries of what is possible and to uncover the secrets of the past.
The chronovisor has inspired a wealth of literature, ranging from scholarly
analysis to speculative fiction.
Books that delve into the chronovisor story often explore themes of hidden knowledge,

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forbidden technology, and the ethical implications of time travel.
These works contribute to the device's mystique and keep the legend alive in
the public imagination.
One notable example is the book The Vatican's New Mystery by French writer François
Brun, which explores the chronovisor legend and its implications.

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How was that again? Okay.
H.G. Wells' The Time Machine, for instance, explores the idea of traveling through
time while other works feature devices that allow characters to view past events.

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These narratives often grapple with the ethical and philosophical implications
of time travel and time viewing.
The chronovisor's legend can be seen as a modern iteration of these themes,
merging contemporary scientific ideas with age-old storytelling traditions.
The device serves as a powerful narrative tool enabling explorations of history,

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ethics, and the human condition.
The chronovisor has also made its way into the world of movies and television.
It has been featured in various documentaries and fictional adaptations,
often depicted as a powerful and mysterious device capable of unlocking the secrets of history.
These portrayals tap into the public's fascination with time travel and the

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possibility of uncovering hidden truths.
In fictional narratives, the chronovisor is often portrayed as a coveted object
sought after by various factions for its potential to change the course of history.
These stories highlight the ethical and moral dilemmas associated with such
powerful device, reflecting broader societal concerns about the use of advanced technology.

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Do you think we should, if we could, change the past? Would we? Could we?
It's tough because you see some... I think a lot of people would probably say
yes because they don't like certain things that happen.
But what effect would it be in the future? How would it affect the future?
If you can go back and have baby Hitler die, would you?

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You it's like it's one of those things you would like to but
i'll be afraid of what would be replaced of that what if someone even more ruthless
gets replaced to him so would you or wouldn't you no why not i would not would
you frank there is a thing called shaken baby syndrome,

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and that's how he would die by my hand.
I would have to draw a mustache on him. But then what if like as terrible of
a time as that was like that was a big growing time for the human species.
Right. And if it didn't work I would just go back and stop myself.

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You'd just go back in time again and undo what you did? Yep.
Couldn't you do that i don't know i don't know you you
see those stories where it's like oops you accidentally stepped on a bug when
you walked over there and then now all of a sudden like dinosaurs still rule
the world i don't know like whatever right no i know like i don't know i i see

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your point but at the same time it's just like Like,
how can we not if we can?
I mean, it is a philosophical and, you know, ethical question.
Could you kill a baby?
Well, that wasn't the core of the conversation. I mean, even if you know it's

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Hitler, like, can you look at a baby and kill it?
Maybe it just needed more hugs. Maybe. It's very possible. Or maybe it just
needed to be locked in an asylum. Right. Yeah. That's crazy.
So the chronovisor raises intriguing scientific and philosophical questions.
The concept of viewing past events touches on the broader topic of time travel and its feasibility.

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While current scientific understanding does not support the possibility of time
travel or viewing past events, the idea continues to inspire theoretical exploration.
Philosophically, the chronomizer prompts discussions about the ethics of observing historical moments.
If such a device were possible, what implications would it have for privacy,
historical interpretation, and our understanding of truth?

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The ability to view the past could profoundly impact historical scholarship,
potentially rewriting established narratives and alerting our perception of
history. The ethical considerations are equally significant.
The notion of witnessing personal and private moments from the past raises questions
about consent and the potential for misuse.

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These discussions, while speculative, highlight the complex interplay between
technology, ethics, and human curiosity.
Expand on your mm-hmm. The ethical peeping.
So what if our current historical interpretation of something,
I don't have an actual example,

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but what if just an interpretation that we currently see from our understanding
and whatever's left from history is incorrect,
where we can go back and view it and gain the appropriate interpretation of
it? You don't see that as a benefit?
Just a sticky on the highest level sure i can agree with your theory or concept

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but then when you started getting into application of when is it right when
is it wrong to go peeping out the past.
When is it encroaching on people's personal liberties or rights there's a black
mirror episode of that where somebody looked in the past and they would rewind
on their tv they kind of had I had this whole Corona thing as an episode where you have a dinner party,

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you have your friends over and you have a conversation and it's like,
nope, let's rewind and let's see what you actually did and why you canceled on me last week.
And it created this level of distrust while trying to force people to be truthful,
but also creating tension and animosity and God forbid you F up or something

(01:03:36):
because anybody can rewind your history and put it on display for the world to see.
Yeah, no, I can definitely understand that for current times in our current lives.
But i mean so it's kind of like legal records there's you can't open up the u.s census for,
30 years or 40 years after it's passed so there's a statute of limitation of

(01:04:00):
how far you can look back or how recently you can look back sure okay maybe
yeah i mean after all the players are dead yeah kind of like the gfk files is
there a statute on that i didn't know yeah there i think it's like Like 2040,
they're sealed till then.
Like the Corona stuff that's sealed for 100 years?

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah, same thing. 80 years, whatever it is. Whatever it is.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
What would you go peep out first? You know, honestly, I would peep out Jesus
times. I would peep out Jesus.
Like, was he real? Did he really perform miracles? Did he really resurrect?

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And what if the answer is no? Would you share that information with the world?
I don't know. Because you probably would have hit on you. No, I don't.
I don't want to intervene on other
people's beliefs and what they seem is
right and wrong i think that is wrong to

(01:05:01):
do like i can disagree with them so just
for private knowledge yeah yeah it would
be for my own self like for
so for example i think we've talked about this before i don't
think orbs are anything but something being reflected
with like now saying that being
a paranormal investigator as we are if

(01:05:24):
somebody shows me a picture of an
orb and says that was my wedding
day and or that was the day my son was
born or that was whatever right and my mother
couldn't make an end that orb is is a
sign of my mom being there i would look at
them like i absolutely agree with you i am not here to
take away hope and anything you

(01:05:48):
know like that that's just that's not right so yeah
it'd be more for myself like i would see i
mean that and then number two i'd go check out dinosaurs yeah
i would love to see dinosaurs i would do that yeah so
the idea of time travel has long fascinated scientists and the public alike
while the chronovisor does not claim to enable physical time travel its ability

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to view past events touches on similar themes current scientific understanding
however does not support the feasibility of such a device.
Theoretical physics explores concepts like wormholes and the bending of space-time,
which could theoretically allow for time travel.
However, these ideas remain speculative and face significant challenges.

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The coronavirus user's alleged technology, which relies on capturing and reconstructing
past electromagnetic waves, lacks empirical support and remains the realm of fiction.
If the coronavirus were real, its ethical implications could be profound.
The ability to observe historical events without consent raises questions about
privacy and the potential misuse of such technology.

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Viewing private moments from the past could infringe on the rights of individuals,
even if they lived centuries ago.
Moreover, the power to witness and potentially record historical events could
be misused to manipulate historical narratives.
The possibility of altering our understanding of historical history based on
selective viewing and interpretation could lead to ethical dilemmas and conflict over historical truth.

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A chronovisor's ability to view the past, if genuine, would revolutionize historical scholarship.
Historians rely on primary sources, artifacts, and written records to reconstruct the past.
A device like the chronovisor would provide direct visual evidence,
potentially reshaping our understanding of historical events.
However, this raises questions about the authenticity and interpretation of such evidence.

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Historical scholarship is built on critical analysis and corroboration of sources.
The introduction of visual evidence from a device like a chronovisor would need
to be carefully scrutinized and contextualized to ensure its reliability.
The chronovisor is not the only alleged time-viewing device in history.

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Various myths and legends from different cultures feature similar concepts.
For example, the ancient Greek myth of the mirror of Kronos describes a mirror
that could show past and future events.
Similarly, other time travel tales and devices in literature often explore the
idea of accessing and altering the past.

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Modern scientific concepts such as quantum mechanics occasionally touch on themes
that echo the chronovisor.
The idea of parallel universes and the potential to observe different timelines,
while still theoretical, resonates with the fascination surrounding the chronovisor.
These parallels highlight the enduring human interest in time and the possibility

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of transcending its boundaries.
Now that's interesting. What if you're not looking into the past,
but you're looking into a different timeline?
So then basically your interpretation of that event wouldn't be relevant to
this timeline and you can actually fledge things up even more.
I was actually kind of thinking along those lines as earlier when he was saying he dialed in his...

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Energetic frequency whatever sound vibration coordinates however
one does that like sure no who's
to say that that was the right timeline
that was the right dimension or you go back
and yeah i don't i wondered about it yeah could you totally fub up a totally
different timeline yeah yeah so maybe you know hitler wasn't such a horrible

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person after all like what if he was just some ballet dancer he was misunderstood let's not say that,
let's not say that at all i mean
if you think about it like friends beyond limits does not support the
quote by brianna jones all

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right like what a title like
you're the most hated worst person in the
history of mankind right in a different timeline you were
just like a a famous ballet dancer yeah you're just a dog walker yeah no he's
he was the one that picked up the poop oh yeah the guy with the mustache at
the end of the parade no he's the horse pickup poop person like in the parades

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what if there was like a time slip where ballet dancing hitler.
Was transported into 1941 berlin and
everyone's like oh my god the fewer and they're all like running
and leaping yeah
you know that could be that could be a parody movie i was
gonna say it was making me think of a who's hot tub time machine i think i've

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actually seen oh my god have you really i think so i waste my time on stupid
movies which is why i don't watch them anymore it's you should watch porn we
should do a parody of hitler or in porn.
No. No. Okay. Yeah. Many cultures have myths and legends that involve the ability

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to see into the past or a future. Yeah.
In the ancient Greeks, for instance, I already read that part,
didn't I? No, I'm bad. Whoopsies. Sorry.
While the chronobiser's alleged technology is not supported by current scientific
principles, modern science does explore concepts that resonate with its themes.
Quantum mechanics delves into

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the nature of time, reality, and the possibility of parallel universes.
Some theories suggest that time may not be as linear as it appears,
opening the door to speculative ideas about time, travel, and observation.
While these scientific explorations remain theoretical, they highlight the ongoing
fascination with time and its mysteries.
The chronovisor, though fictional, taps into these deeper questions reflecting

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humanity's enduring quest to understand the nature of time and existence.
The chronovisor remains one of the most captivating and mysterious legends of
the 20th century. Despite the lack of scientific evidence and the skepticism
it faces, the story endures, fueled by our fascination with time travel and
the mysteries of history.

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The chronobiser serves as a reminder of our innate curiosity and the allure of the unknown.
Whether real or fiction, it continues to inspire wonder and speculation.
Dun, dun, dun. So where do you stand?
I'm going to stand on this was all one big fake story.

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I think, yeah, I can't see this being real. Do you still think it's a farce?
I don't believe it. All right, I'm going to pivot.
I think they saw something that messed up the whole paradigm,
the whole story, and they hooped it and they buried it in their archives in the basement.

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Okay. I'm going to go that route because that's more funner.
More funner. More funner. Okay. Now you're speaking like Brianna.
That was intentional. I know. Just like you do.
I'm just teasing you. A movie and a weed and whatever.
You want to do a movie?

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You know, it was interesting at the end there how they bring up the fact that
time isn't linear. year. We just perceive it that way, that it all is happening at the same time.
And I think there can be sometime in the future, a device that would be able to tap into time itself.

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I just don't think it's been done as of yet. What if this device creates Mandela effects?
What if they They actually look back and they're like, nope,
Monopoly guy does not need a monocle. Out.
Maybe. It's a possibility. And Nelson Mandela, nope, didn't die and risen.
Out. Right? I mean, it's all very possible.

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The history on the chronovisor, never happened. No scientific evidence. Out.
Yeah. No, I agree. It's all very possible. More funner.
I think I just crapped myself. You did this to me. Cracked your brain?
Yeah Cracked your back? Yeah,
knuckles and my butt i was about to say your tailbone maybe oh yeah i mean isn't

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all that down there pretty much your joints isn't like your hips and they don't
lie my hips don't lie they only thrust forward and backward they don't shimmy side to side i mean,
my entire body will
shift side to side not my hips like a
wacky wavy inflatable yeah no i cannot not

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just front and back that's it so well
yeah tell us what you guys think is it real is it
not yeah tell us it all big lies and all big conspiracy i don't know it's all
very do you own one if you own a chronovisor please email me frank at fringe
beyond limits.com am i supposed to say my name just say something anything would

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It would be great. Hi, everybody.
Do you believe in this? Because I don't.
All right. All right. Well, thanks for this fun journey. Yeah.
I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good story.
Yeah. It was a good one, man. Yeah, it was. It was a fun story.
I do agree. So thank you for listening, everybody.
My name is Frank. My name is Brie. And this is Lynette. And you've been listening

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to Fringe. Beyond Limits.
Music.