The Portal Phenomenon: Bridging Worlds

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Music.

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Welcome back to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.
How are you guys doing?
Peachy and tired. Oh, yeah. All in one.
Peachy and tired. And I feel like I'm getting really high on this caffeine right now.
Ooh. Have you ever been high before? I have. Really? Yeah. When was the last? Allegedly.

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Allegedly? You were high? What were you high on?
Simple weed, allegedly. Like simple? What does simple weed mean?
Just regular marijuana. I don't know what kind of marijuana it was.
You don't know? Was it oregano?
Hey, that's a thing. I know it's a thing. It could be dandelion.
You smoked oregano? Yeah. Okay.

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Did you get high? No, but my... So I had a friend, we were spending the night,
and I heard this theory that oregano, because actually it's not even a theory.
The ancient Romans actually used to trade oregano as something to get you high.
But anyway, we didn't have rolling papers.
So I had notebook paper.
I was in like middle school, okay? And my friend and I were spending the night.

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And my sister, we had the window open.
Screens popped out so you could throw the ash out the window.
My sister's like, are you burning pizza in there?
It didn't get as high, but it made us hungry. And we wanted pizza.
I did not expect you to bring that up but that totally brought a whole story

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in memory back i did not bring that up well you said you brought an oregano
oh somebody else has heard of this yeah no i i've heard of people selling oregano instead of weed,
to well yeah if you're not paying attention almost looks
similar i guess i don't know I don't drink I don't do drugs I don't even swear

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allegedly no that's all real is that your alter ego that's that's bullshit see I did that offends me.
I'm very offended i can't even take you seriously i know
i know so all right so
how's uh how's everyone's week i got
a new mattress you got a new mattress yes it's little

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things it's when you're a grown-up i became a grown-up today or actually it
was yesterday i did that so yesterday you were a grown-up for the first time
yeah because i bought a mattress all right not getting married or buying a house
that doesn't count no any old schmoke can do that all right so So find a mattress
takes a lot of like, you have to make sure the bed is good.
It's you have to find one just right. It takes a lot of thinking and strategy. And yeah.

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So the image that just popped into my head is you guys are at the mattress store
and Brianne is being normal, right?
She's, you know, laying on them. Oh, you know, how does this feel?
And, you know, she'll flip on her side.
She'll flip on her other side. She'll lay on her back, you know,
and just goes down the row of mattresses.
Like Goldilocks. right i picture brian in the middle of the mattress just dry

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humping the shit out of each one to see how it feels and then he'll flip over
on his back and like dig his ass into it to see.
How it feels being ridden do they ever sell those mattresses the demo mattresses
because if they do that's a good question i'd be kind of scared i would like
it does that i don't know i think they do like they probably do have like like

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on floor sales sometimes with these now what what i I would like to know is
when you guys go buying a new couch,
does Brian check out each couch by burying his face in the cushions?
I was going to say, we actually are been looking for a couch too.
Is that the way he does it? Because he likes to be ass up, face down.
Pretty much. Yeah. I keep trying to figure out. He's been doing like the whole

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like ostrich thing when the ostrich puts their head in the hole.
I'm sorry. Say that word again.
Ostrich. Okay. You didn't say that like the first time. Did you? I don't know.
I was probably blending my words like I normally do.
Yeah. it was like ostrich blending your words
you were saying one word you blended one you looked at all the
letters together there's too many vowels listen now it sounded like you said

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wash my sister sauce what never used wash my sister sauce no really wash your
sauce it's wash my sister oh my god that's what you were trying to say no that's
not what's exactly what i was saying.
Never heard that before? I've never heard it called that before.
Oh, I call it that all the time. Well. Yeah. Sounds gross.

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Wash my sister's sauce? Wash my sister's sauce. That's great.
It's good for you. All right.
So I'm happy that we were off the rails already. I love it.
So yeah. So things that keep you up at night. All right. We're going to continue this trend.
Yes, sir. I love it. I love it. So who would like to go first this week with
their little. I'll get it out of the way since you're going to make fun of me.

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You know, you always say that and you're only right half the time.
But you'll make fun of me for this one. Okay. But it's real.
Oh, like instead of like the fake ones we talk about? No, it's just...
Well, hey, those aren't fake. Those are legit.
Okay. So if you've ever tried like meditating and they say, concentrate on your
breath, you know, whatever.
When I think about breathing, it's hard to fall asleep because I'm thinking

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so hard about breathing that I either stop breathing or I'm breathing, breathing, breathing.
Same. So wait a minute. So when you concentrate on your breathing, you stop breathing?
Well, because I'm so hyper aware of it. It's like, do I breathe now?
Am I breathing too much? Like, it's weird. Yeah, same thing.
Am I going too slow? Am I going too fast?
It's like all I can think about is my breathing and I don't know what else to think about.

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So it stops all the other chatter, but then you're like turning purple because
you're holding your breath or something.
Well, with me, I go down a rabbit hole and I start thinking about other stuff
to do with breathing and I think about other stuff with that and meditating
doesn't work for me. I think you guys have issues that need help immediately.
Been there, tried that, didn't work. You should keep trying.
But when you talk about, when you bring hyper-focus to breathing,

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it doesn't just automatically happen.
You're thinking about it and you're controlling it whether you want to or not.
Well, I'm thinking about it right now.
Thinking about choking you. I know. Well, please do because I like that.
I've always noticed too when I start doing that, like think about my breathing,
I also start getting dizzy.
You'll get dizzy from thinking about your breathing. Yeah, because I'm like
trying to make sure I'm doing it correctly and I think I do it too much or something

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to where I start getting lightheaded and dizzy and I can't do anything else.
So I'm like, okay, my back has to be against the wall now because I feel like I'm going to fall over.
I think any time you think you fall over, I don't think it has anything to do with like the topic.
Just the mere fact of thinking. Yeah. Pretty much. I think all the blood rushes out of your brain.

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And you get dizzy and fall over. Yeah, it's a problem. All right. That's fantastic.
Who's next? Yeah, I'm going to go with Brianna because I can't wait to hear.
I actually have a good one this time. Sure you do. Just did you fall over from thinking about it?
No. So this is something that I've been thinking about the last two weeks.
And then I thought of like, so my dreams. I've been realizing all of my dreams

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that I have, even the ones I had in the past, never take place in a place I recognize.
It's always a make-believe place or who knows if it's make-believe,
but it's never a place that I know. Well, that's interesting.
Yeah. And then I start thinking about what about those, there's like that theory
that people have that when you dream, you're getting a glimpse of yourself in
a different dimension or a different world or whatever.

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Or from a different perspective. Yeah. Right. But it's just so weird because
like every single time I'm thinking about it now, every single time I've been
waking up the last two weeks, all the dreams I had that night,
none of them in the place I recognize.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense because, you know, depending on what your
beliefs are and dreams, like, you're either someplace else that is similar because

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your brain is trying to make it comfortable for you.
Or it's just so different because what happens when you dream is your brain
goes, oh, let's fuck with them.
And it just opens all the doors to all the fucked up shit that, you know, is in there.
So, I mean, that makes sense. Like, like, like with me, when I dream,

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if I'm in a familiar place, like I will think I'm like, oh, this is the house
I grew up in, but it's not the exact same.
Like there'll be a different room
and different feeling, different environment, you know, what have you.
But like, to me, it's, it's the house I grew up in. Right.
So, yes, I mean, yeah, I mean, dreams aren't 100% true unless you have prophetic

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dreams, which I'm sure that's a topic for a different day. I don't know if I
agree with that statement.
Oh, you don't have to. That's my opinion. Well, you said it is fact.
Well, I say everything is fact. It doesn't mean it's fact.
That's why I sound so believable. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. No.
Negative. Okay, so what do you not agree with it? But if dreams aren't real,

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then they're just to fuck with you.
Some of them are. I don't think every single dream is real.
But what's your definition of real? See, we can go down a weird rabbit hole
with that. Yeah, no. I mean, real would be the reality that we currently live in.
I have a feeling when I know what our future topic one day is going to be. Dreams.
Dreams and... I'll just bust out my dream book. Yeah, yeah. And I'll just read you stories.

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That's story time with Lynette. I think that's... Dreamy time corner.
Yeah, I think there should be a new, like a weekly...
Spin-off this episode. Are there going to be unicorns and fairies?
I've never had dreams about unicorns and fairies.
Oh, in case my mom is listening. Yes.
Dreams of all the unicorns and all the fairies. So if you don't want her to

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listen, you just start off with saying unicorn and then you can go on with what
you really want to talk about.
I think it would be a dream of your mother as a fairy riding a unicorn. Oh.
I think you'd get her nightmares with that one. Things that keep me up at night.
Unicorns and fairies now when you say fairies you

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mean like the mythical creature fairies or do you mean like yes
that would be awesome all right
so so i actually do have a real one
as well because this one actually kept me up one night this week so i was laying
in bed touching myself as i as you do like your nose your ear yeah yeah but

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whole yeah so i was thinking about like paranormal investigating and how most of pictures,
visuals of ghost spirits are taken in the infrared light spectrum.
So I started thinking about how we perceive light and how we only see 1% of the light spectrum.

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And then I was wondering, how does our vision really work with light?
So I had to google this and i
found out that when we're seeing
something and we're we're not
really seeing the actual object
we're looking at right so i'm not exactly seeing the walls you guys this microphone

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i'm seeing how light reflects off of it which then led me down a rabbit hole
of If we only see 1% of reflective light,
what the fuck are we not seeing that's around us? Right.
That's interesting. So, like, I go back, and then I went back to the movie Predator.

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Lynette, have you done that movie? Nope. Bree, have you done that movie?
I love Predator. It's one of my favorite sci-fis.
So, you know, when he cloaks himself, basically, that technology,
all it's doing is just letting the visual light that we see pass through and
not reflect off of him right so which there's technology being built or probably already out there.

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That works like that so what the
fuck are we not seeing it also reminds me
i mean you know the tv series grim yeah like i
remember at one point it explained why he sees it because it's like there's something
in his eyes that's i forgot like some i don't
want to say dna but like something that like he has
but no one else has in their eyes that's why he can see the true

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faces of everybody were you gonna say dnable no
oh i thought you were gonna say dnable and that's gonna be a new word
no no okay yeah but it kind
of reminds me of that even though you're talking about like colors and reflection
and stuff like that it's like almost the same concept like he has something
that he can see but other normal humans cannot see because of that one thing

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that's in his dna in his dna in his eyes do you know what dna is i'm trying
to think of a good thing but i can't think of anything so okay that's a little
skip that but yeah so like what the.
Letters stand for is that what you're i was trying to think
of something funny for each letter but it didn't happen my mind
wasn't working that fast does it ever no okay

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so so yeah so i just kind of
like wonder like what is around us like
like we really don't know the concept
of reality because we cannot
see what's really around us right so
i want so curious is there any
type of a device that picks up all the spectrum of

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light at once do we know i don't know there's just
do we know what the whole spectrum of light is or is
it but do we know or is it just what our measurable devices i think i think
we do know just because since we only see one percent of it we'd have to know
the other 99 you know i mean like we couldn't put a number on it i don't know

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i don't know but But I was just curious if.
Or maybe we just know 1% of what we do know. We see 1% of what we do know.
Maybe, maybe, but I wonder if there's a device that picks up all 100% of what we do know.
And I would love to put that into a haunted spot and just have it run for 24
hours, seven days a week, and just have, pay somebody to review it because I'll fall asleep.

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Yeah, that's what got me up at night this week. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
I mean, what would you do if you could see more things? What if it was scary things?
What if it constantly looked like you're walking into a wall?
Would you be like. I would be at a standstill.
Well, but knowing what you know with what you can see, you can walk through it now.
But like, what if with your extra sensory vision, you feel like you're enclosed

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in a box and it appears solid.
That would then give me claustrophobia.
Claustrophobia? I did that for. From Joy-Z? No, I did that for Brianna.
So she's not the only one. Claustrophobia.
Claustrophobia. Oh, there's an R in it? There's not. There's always has been.
We've talked about this in other episodes.
Astrophobia? Got it. Yeah, there we go. Like a boss. You know I'm going to forget

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this like two days later. Today? No, you just forgot it now. Shh.
So, all right. Well, that was fun. That was a fun little journey into what keeps us up at night.
Listeners, what keeps you guys up at night? We still want to know.
We want to know so it keeps me up at night.
And don't let it be as stupid as what Bree and Lynette think.

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Please. Hey, mine was a good one today. day probably not
i guarantee you there are others out there that that that when you think about
breathing they stop it messes up no not just stops breathing it messes with
your breathing and then it and it messes up your meditation right but that's
not all you said you said that you stopped breathing and no or you breathe too
fast or you're just hyper aware of it either way it,

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disturbing or not disturbing it's distracting from
trying to fall asleep it defeats the purpose i think this
podcast defeats the purpose of any intelligence life
out there looking for us oh that's why we created this podcast for people i
mean some yokels in the backwoods somewhere get picked up by aliens i'm pretty
sure they'll they'd be interested in us what's what state what state do you

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think those yokels are from if you had a where Where? Chon Chon. What?
I just made up a word. Yeah, I know. Because I don't want to call out any one
state. Oh, like what? Chon Chon.
Kansas. Kentucky. I would go deeper. Alabama. There we go.
There we go. Ambalamba. Ambalamba. Mississippi.

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Yeah. Yeah. Listen. Georgia. If you guys. She's like naming the whole.
If you guys are from any of those states. Florida. Can I get the Florida panhandle?
Listen, number one, people from down there don't have electricity.
They don't have, they can't listen to our podcast.
Arkansas? Yeah, that's fine. I might have like Louie's on their phones.
Yeah, well, listen, if you guys are offended from those states,

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you can email Brianna at fringebeyondlimits.com.
You can send her all your hate mail. Wisconsin?
No, Wisconsin is the Alabama of the North. That is 100% true.
They will fuck anything up there. Beer, cheese, and guns, yeah.
Beer, cheese, guns, and sisters.
I love Wisconsin. You don't forget the brats, the big brats.

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Let me introduce you to my cousin's sister.
From Wisconsin? No, no.
Definitely not from Wisconsin. His sister from Wisconsin. Your what?
I said your sister from Wisconsin. I don't have a sister from Wisconsin.
No, you do. I don't know. No. All right. Anyway. Now that we're way off of.
Yeah. Now we've run a bow.

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What are we talking about today, guys? Portals. Portals?
Not portholes. Oh, all right. No, not portholes? Portals. Potholes?
Portals? Portals, yeah. So like, would my brown eye be a porthole?
Maybe to some. Yeah? Yeah. You get E. coli on the other side. This is true.

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Or it could be heaven. For whom? Not me.
I'm very sensitive. No, but like different types of portals. Yeah, right. Like what?
Like naturally forming ones, for example.
Folks, you know, talk about mountains, caves, that sort of thing, or ley lines.
And, you know, there's also the scientific community that talks about like black

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holes and string theory.
And, you know. Do you think a black hole is a portal?
I don't know. Some might think so. Some don't think so. What do you think?
I think it's a distortion of time and matter so and we've never tossed anything
into one that i know of or no one's come back on the what was that i did see a movie,

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when did you do a movie interstellar oh i've seen that yeah i have an okay movie
what okay that's the one with um what's his face all right all right all right
yeah right mississippi Matthew McConaughey.
Matthew McConaughey, yeah. Oh, I thought we were talking about Wisconsin again.

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Anyway, Interstellar, so what did you think of it? I thought the theory and
the concept was interesting about how time is either sped up or slowed down
and all of that, depending on the other side. So I don't know.
Well, yeah, I mean, that is scientifically proven depending on how fast you're moving.
Time either speeds up or slows down for you. I think the closer you reach the
speed of light, the slower it goes, right? Do you believe they exist?

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Yeah, I do. I'm not sure we have the technology to be able to interact with
them yet, you know, but yeah, I do think there's something to them.
I do think that there, there is something going on there, whether it be something
like a black hole, something to do with naturally recurring ones,

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like where's the Sedona,
They say there's a lot in Sedona, Arizona, and I'm sure other places in the
world, like the Himalayas, I think, where Buddhist monks kind of hang out.
So some natural portals are caves, mountains, and water springs.
Am I reading that correctly? Yeah, it's just a couple that some indigenous tribes

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believe to be portals, yeah.
So in traditional Southeastern indigenous Native American beliefs,
the cosmos is considered as three layers, above world, below world, and middle world.
Which one do you think we're in? The flat world.
I'm going to strangle you. I was just trying to get a reaction.
Yeah. The reaction is being strangled. Yeah. Do you like that? Yeah. No.

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She realized what she said as she was saying it. She's like,
no. Yeah. A little Freudian slip. Yeah. I like that. The coffee hasn't set in
yet. Yeah, sure. Sure is the coffee.
Above world is the sky, associated with creative forces, the abode of perfect
spirit beings, and the souls of ancestors.
Below world is watery and unformed, associated with destructive forces,

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inhabited by imperfect spirit beings and monsters.
Middle world is the earth's surface, floating above the watery below world,
inhabited by human, plant, and animal communities. In Indian mythology,
stories tell of spirits, beings,
or heroes crossing the borders of these realms for various reasons.
Spirits to create something if they are benevolent or to cause destruction if they are not.

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Heroes to avenge some wrong or to gain some benefit for their people.
That's also very closely related to Greek mythology, wouldn't you say?
Mm-hmm. Because I think they're all connected.
Do you? I do. I mean, I see the connection right off the bat.
In these stories, the ability to move between the worlds is a sign of power.

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Sometimes it is shown by special magical possessions of a hero character.
Sometimes a powerful spirit being
has combination features of animals belonging to more than one world.
And sometimes the story uses location to indicate this crossing.
For instance, in an Osage creation story, believe their ancestors descended from the sky.

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The Osages believe that the people of the sky... Isn't it Osage?
Is it Osage? I think it's Osage.
Osage? Osage? You sound French when you say it. Osage or Osage?
I think it's Osage. Okay. The Osages believed that the people of the sky,
Zisho, and the people of the earth, Hunka, came together to form the Children

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of the Middle Waters, Neo-Kanskan.
The sky people were said to disembark from the branches of tall trees.
What are you shaking your head at for? Did I say that wrong?
No, I was impressed that you got through that. Well, I am multilingual,
so I'm actually pretty good at sounding things. That's why I sounded French there for a bit.
That's what happens when you... I did not hear any French in that.

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Listen, I will... Ha ha ha ha you.
Ha ha ha ha. This is so off the rails. In a Caddo story, the ancestors climb
up from below world and emerge on the earth's surface through the mouth of a cave.
In both examples, extremities in middle world act as portals or doorways.
In the first case, it is heights, the upper limbs of tall trees.

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In the second case, caves, earth openings that lead underground.
Is this also where the hollow earth theory came from? Possibly?
I might have a little nod to that later on.
Oh, look at that. Whether you believe it or not, I figured it was worth presenting
different theories. Oh, absolutely, it's worth it. I agree.
That's good. I'm happy that I'm already ahead of the curve.

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It's the only time. Pretty much. Very often in mythology, a sacred place is
a mountaintop or a cave or a well or spring or other water feature.
These are all crossing places between domains.
A high mountain links the earth with the sky.
A cave links the earth with the underground. A well or spring or lake is a place

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where water from below bubbles to the surface.
One fascinating example of rock art in northwest Arkansas indicates an interest
in the theme of portals between the worlds.
This pictograph panel shows a horned figure with a round head and downturned arms.
The horns are filled in with red paint.

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The figure is drawn above a horizontal fissure in the rock wall and looks as
if it is emerging through this fissure from underground.
The arms are shown from the elbows slightly raised and then the forearms bent down.
This gives an energetic appearance as if the figure is lifting itself over the edge of the rock.
Below the fissure are two parallel vertical lines adjusting the figure's lower body.

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A possible interpretation is that the shaman is wearing horned headdresses,
traveling in spirit form through a portal between the world and below world.
Perhaps they are returning from their spirit journey and their bodies shown
so indistinctly by the parallel lines are still in the other world.
It's very unique, very fun to kind of think of how these different.

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I just found it really interesting that many different cultures believe in these
landmarks, if you will, having some sort of connectivity or power or transporting, but certain folks.
So one thing that i thought of while
reading about the whole water part have you guys done the movie
constantine negative yes so one

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of the cool things is that spoiler alert john
wick's character is having the chick see go and like see hell he puts her in
a bath of water and he says that water helps them travel between worlds in celtic
lore it is believed that trees Trees could be home to deities, fairies, and demons.

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Fairies were thought to live in the hollows of trees, referred to as fairy doors.
And it's thought that by touching these, one could experience potent healing
magic or perhaps even discover a portal to another world.
Because the Celts believed that trees could house deities, or that they could
even be deities themselves, the Druids had very strict regulations about trees.

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In the ancient Brennan, Laws of the Druids, it was stated that doing injury
to a tree was akin to doing injury to the gods,
and perpetrators could be brutally punished for felling or harming a tree in
any way, even sentenced to death for it.
So for the Celts, sacred groves were akin to temples and were places of immense

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spiritual power deserving of respect and reverence.
Most of us have seen or are familiar with the Celtic tree of life,
which depicts a tall oak tree with outstretched branches that bend down towards
the earth but do not touch the ground, and a tangle of upward curved roots that
reach toward the surface but again do not touch.
And this tree is encircled in a braided ring that encompasses it all.

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In some versions of this image, the central oak tree are two similar oak trees
flanking either side, one showing the tree in winter and the other in summer.
The Celtic tree of life was a revered symbol, considered a portal to invisible
worlds and a source of sacred knowledge guarded by the most enlightened ones.

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And trees can be portals to the future and to the past. ask
so does the trunk of the central tree
portray a portal between worlds you
guys think that the imagery that's what conjures
up in my mind i think there's almost as a tunnel a
portal a tube a pathway between the heavens
and the underworld between the heavens and the underworld so then

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where would the middle world be wouldn't we be
like the middle world yeah so we're kind of caught lot in
the middle i mean you can take the symbolism of that
tree a couple different ways you can take it from like a religious standpoint it's
like we're in the middle between angels and demons and they're
fighting you know over us that sort of thing but there's also that interconnectivity
between the two and how they're all encircled together i find very fascinating

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i've never really looked at that symbol in this way until kind of working through
this article but it also and again you brought up hollow earth but the image
of it also kind of gives that imagery i I guess. Sure. Yeah.
So then do the other trees then depict realms or dimensions?
That's kind of, I shouldn't.
Share this image with you, but that's what it looks like. It looks like it's a cyclical pattern.

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And that, in a sense of, if it's a portal, the image is almost like a fractal.
The image that I'm at least referring to. So you have the tree in the middle,
and then you have two trees on either side of the main tree.
And if you were to continue to zoom in to each one of those side trees,
you would get the same image over and over and over, which in a weird way drew

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the connection of a fractal type portal of that.
You're moving through wherever you're going in in life through these these portals,
but you don't necessarily know where you're going to go.
And that's all a big picture that unfolds in and of and around itself exactly as itself.
OK, so the Celtic tree of life is a fractal. That's that's what I'm suggesting.
Sure, sure. Sure. So is it never-ending? Is it self-replicating?

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Is it interconnectivity pattern of existence?
Yes, actually, I think all of the above. All of the above. How so?
So you, okay, well, how do I simplify this down so it's easy to make sense? I don't know.
Because it makes sense up here, but sometimes it just doesn't come out of my mouth and make sense.
But, okay, let's assume you are in the trunk of the tree. You're on the earth

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plane or whatever. Okay.
So as you ascend up and reach higher, or as you descend, whichever,
based on your path, your vibration, your choices, when you get to the top of
that tree as a fractal, you're almost at the bottom of the next tree. Okay.
But that's also not just a vertical type of transition.

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It's horizontal length width. Okay. So do you think this is a physical transition?
Or a spiritual moving up and down? Well, I guess I think it'd be more a spiritual
representation, but obviously Celtic tradition believed in actual tree groves
or trees themselves as portals.

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So a different example is I went hiking in the woods and there was a grouping
of like six to ten trees all within smaller than this table.
But they were big trees. And when you stood in the middle of it,
there was this weird vibration.
There was this weird energy that like all the hairs on your arms like prickled up and stood up.

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Was that a portal? I don't know. But it was something that was very different
from when you took one step away from standing outside this cluster.
Okay. That's interesting.
So some cultures believe that fairy rings are portals to another world.
Most well-known type of fairy rings are circles of mushrooms that are commonly
found in forests and open grassy areas. The name fairy ring comes to an old

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folk tale that suggests the mushrooms follow the path of fairies dancing in a circle.
Folklore has made many attempts to explain their enchanting growth pattern.
English and Celtic folklore believe fairies or elves create these rings by dancing
in a circle, causing supernatural changes in the geography.
German folklore calls fairy rings hexenringes, literally witches' rings,

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and meaning the circles that witches form while dancing. In France,
they are called ronde de socres, also witches' rings.
In Switzerland and Russia, the concealed hidden treasure which fairies or witches could help reveal.
For thousands of years, the sudden appearance of rings of mushrooms was a sure

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sign of otherworldly presences.
These rings would seemingly appear overnight or travel from one location to
another with no clear rhyme or reason. Not all fairy rings are formed by mushrooms.
A lesser-known type of fairy ring has been observed in the spirals of Iceland's mossy lava fields.
The difference here is not where the grasses and mosses grow, but where they don't.

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These sprawling lava flows have presented places where more than one ring of
missing vegetation in the area overlaps with another, creating strange,
winding patterns in the grass and moss.
Often the grass inside the ring is dead and withered, and has a clearly different
coloring than the grass outside.
Not only are the appearance and disappearance of these rings odd,

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but one need also remember that when lava flows are formed, large pockets of
air create deep chasms, caverns, lava tubes, and holes one might fall into, never to be seen again.
You think that's real? I've never heard of these lava fields,
which if you look at photos of those, they're just eerie because it's flat and moss.

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But there's these rings that are forming in them.
And then, you know, I never thought of the concept of you're just walking along
the ground one day and oops, you fell down a hole.
And maybe that's why there's legends of those being portals there. Yeah.
So many legends involve mortals entering fairy rings and the consequences.

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If you dare enter a ring, many myths warn you will die young.
You also become invisible to the mortal world, unable to escape the ring,
or you are transported instantly to the fairy realm.
Either way, you will be forced to dance around the ring until you die of exhaustion or madness.
And for those who are lucky enough
to escape, you might also experience a distortion of time and space.

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Go in and come back years later, unaged, or to the opposite,
enter for only a minute and exit a few months later to find you have aged rapidly
on an entirely new location.
Another tradition from Somerset in the 20th century says that a murderer or
thief who enters a fairy ring will be hanged.
So, do you think these are just fairy tales?

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Or do you think those are real? I don't know.
The thing that really stood out to me is, you know, these legends of saying
that you'll become invisible, you're unable to escape, you know,
descend into madness or justices serve.
Like, could that not be a link to another dimension, another reality?
Or could it just be another tale

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to scare people yeah scare
people or that's what i was thinking yeah or
even respecting the environment let's
not ruin the environment well it's like fairy tales are other words like fables
because fables kind of teach you a lesson or like it's just something that comes
from the truth but they made it to where it sounds either way worse than what

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it is or they just put a lot of
like miss or untrue things in there to get people to think a certain way.
So again, going back to the... Would you stand in a mushroom very certain?
Yeah, I would stand there and pee in it.
Yeah would you stand in a
fairy ring re a little part of me probably would

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like one foot in one foot out yes i would
literally just be like toe in you're gonna just straddle it
but what if your toe die oh your toe
dies listen my toe fucking died is that is
that a no you meant that just because
i'm missing a toe on my foot bye-bye toe i'm being toeist you you are you're

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being just because i can't stand toe-to-toe with you it backfired on me that
joke yeah guess what else all backfired your butt my butt.
Yes no but i would totally stand in the fairway yeah yeah like if if fairies

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looked like tinkerbell i would totally bang one tinkerbell with a b tinkerbell
was julia roberts what oh Oh, yeah, that's right. And Hook. And Hook.
Did you ever do that movie? With Robin Williams? Robin Williams.
Yeah, but I don't remember her in that movie.
Yeah, she was Tinkerbell. She was younger, obviously, in that. So, yeah, vaguely.
Thanks, genius. She was younger 30 years ago.

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Like, she has super, super short hair because of Tinkerbell.
So, again, it doesn't look familiar. Super short.
Super, super, super, super, super short. Yeah, she was Tinkerbell in that movie.
So, that's the only Tinkerbell is Julia Roberts' Tinkerbell fairy.
Yes. Told you my mom wouldn't listen to this episode.
Has she listened to any of them?
No. No, all right. I can also picture Lynette, instead of going into the circle

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mushrooms, she'll be picking the mushrooms. Probably be like, no. Oh, mushrooms.
Yeah. Let me get rid of this fairy ring real quick. Nom, nom,
nom, nom, nom. Oh, Jesus. All right.
Well, we won't spend too much time on this topic today as we discuss the stone
ape theory, which we're talking about hallucinogenics here.
Yep. Now, Salisay may have played a role in the environment of human consciousness,

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according to last week's episode.
But it's worth mentioning that there are some belief the effect of hallucinogenics
have on the brain and how it opens up neural pathways is a form of portal opening.
Users' experiences can vary, but nearly all claims experience the world in a
different and abstract way. Everything from both visual and physical encounters

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with God, the devil, human or nature spirits, color, taste, sensations, and sound.
So, allegedly, if you guys have allegedly taken any of these alleged hallucinogenics,
have you allegedly encountered any of these alleged visual and physical encounters
with these alleged beings or sensations? No.

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Allegedly i allegedly experience different colors
yes okay allegedly allegedly
i have allegedly still not done any of
these well one thing that's like kind of interesting with that is while the
symptoms not symptoms but users experience may be classified and lumped into

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a similar category people have reported like different so what is it is it dmt
where they see the little gray people's It's like almost everybody.
The worker elves, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So like, what if DMT is the key to that
dimension, that portal?
Whereas, what's the other one? There was another one, I think,
with Salvia that people experienced, dozens, hundreds of people experienced

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a very similar reality that you didn't necessarily have if you were smoking weed.
Right. Or doing ayahuasca. Do you do ayahuasca?
Drinking ayahuasca? I mean, you could do an ayahuasca.
What's ayahuasca? We talked about it last week.
It's like the root from this tree and the vine from thank you yeah it's one
of those things that one in one ear and out the other ear it's hard for me to

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retain that knowledge i'm happy that you are a contributing member of society
member of this podcast you're welcome.
Hey i do some research on my own with some of this stuff and
i still don't remember the next time so yeah yeah no you should get that
just checked out yeah it's probably i don't know
just like how i had to study for tests i had to do it like multiple

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times before it stuck in my ahead yeah there's probably a growth happening somewhere
that you should get an antibiotic for maybe so and
also with ayahuasca they also
encounter they call they call this being
mother ayahuasca where it's just this motherly loving embracing accepting figure
and multiple people have experienced this yeah this this thing so no i'm i'm

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game for ayahuasca whenever you You guys want to do it? You guys just let me know. We'll purge.
Together. If we can hold hands while we shit, that would bring joy to my heart.
I'll pass. And then we can experience Miss Ayahuasca together.
All right. So a ley line is a straight line that connects significant locations
on earth, such as prehistoric sites, ancient structures, and landmarks.

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The idea originated in the 1920s when Alfred Watkins, an amateur archaeologist
and photographer, noticed straight lines connecting ancient sites in the United Kingdom. them.
Watkins believed the ancient societies intentionally built structures along
these lines for navigational purposes.
Some people believe that ley lines have special powers such as carrying supernatural

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energy or influence human health.
For example, some theories suggest that ley lines can enhance the energy flow
in a person's body when they are nearby.
Others believe that ley lines are invisible power lines that conduct magical
energy, that the places where ley lines intersect have pockets of concentrated energy.
People have often found special significance in the unusual landmarks and geological

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features surrounding them.
High mountain peaks and majestic valleys may be viewed as sacred,
for example, while deep dark caves have often been considered the domain of the underworld.
The same is true for roads. In the 1800s, on the British Isles,
many people believed in mysterious ferry paths,
trails connecting certain hilltops in the the countryside, it is considered

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dangerous or at the very least unwise to walk on those paths during certain
days because the wayward traveler might come upon a parade of fairies who would
not take kindly to the human interpretation.
Do you think Sawney Bean lived on one of these fairy trails?
No, but I was going to say that these parade of fairies turned into Pride Month
in June. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So...

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If lines are pathways of
magnetic energy flowing from node to node some nodes
absorb and some push out magnetic energy lines can
be used to send energy to and from remote nodes also so they could be used for
communication between nodes they are also sources of power that can be tapped
anywhere along the route but it's more difficult to do than at a node it's easier

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to tap them where they cross each other.
All right. I hate saying that word. No, I feel so weird.
Like, no, no, no, I can't even say it. Nope. Yeah. I was like saying with an
accent. I don't know why.
Now, does that sound like workings of a portal? Node? I said it.

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There you go. I don't know. Energy amplification.
You got messing with magnetic fields of the earth going on in there.
One thing I want to know is, did those ley lines exist prior to the construction
of buildings, temples, pyramids?
Or did the building of pyramids, temples, buildings create a ley line?

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Chicken or egg on that one.
Yeah, I would tend to lean towards if they are real.
The ley lines existed before the creation and these ancient people were able
to tap into them somehow. and that's why they built these sacred sites on them.
Now, it is very, just because that's more feasible to me than thinking that

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these ancient people built these structures and sites and they so happen to be on the same.
No, what if they caused the ley lines? Like you can draw a straight line between
anything, right? I guess you could.
So if you have higher concentration of quartz crystal, which we know has energy

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and it's in your watches and it powers things like that. Right.
Are they, did they create the ley lines?
Well, I would say that these quartz or these caverns, wherever these quartz
crystals are, these different types of quartz, wherever there's an abundance
of them, created the ley lines,
but they were able to be detected by ancient peoples somehow.

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Either through their own religious practices or if they just had technology
that was lost to time, and that's why they built said sites there.
But I think these ley lines were there before any kind of construction were built,
just because I think that is more feasible than just these ancient sites being

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built and the energy that was
created at worship there then created these lines that wouldn't line up.
I think the reason that these structures were built was because of the ley lines
instead of the other way around.
Does that make sense? That makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Brie? Mm-hmm.
All right. Thanks for chiming in there. Geographical and paranormal triangles.

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Now, this is interesting.
We have all undoubtedly heard of the Bermuda Triangle, but what if I told you
there are a dozen triangles around the world dubbed the Vial of Vortices by Ivan T.
Sanderson in 1972? These areas on the Earth's surface have reported numerous
anomalies where the planet's natural electromagnetic fields are stronger here

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than anywhere else in the world.
Vile vortices are supposed to be spread equally in 12 parts across the Tropic
of Cancer, the Tropic of Capricorn, and include the North and South Pole.
The main reason each vortex of these 12 vortices is called vile is because they
cause events which hamper the routine course of one's life
In 1973, three Soviet scientists, Nikolai Goncharov, Vyacheslav Morokov,

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and Valery Makarov, extended Sanderson's theory in the article. I like the accents.
You're very welcome. Is the Earth a large crystal?
Published in a Soviet science magazine, they postulated that a matrix of cosmic
energy made up of 12 pentagonal plates covers the Earth.
The article claimed that the junctions of any three of these plates,

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62 junctions in all, possessed unusual properties such as advanced prehistoric
cultures, unique wildlife, or other mysterious phenomenon.
So where did all these planes, ships, and people disappear to?
For example, like the Bermuda Triangle.

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What do you guys think? Do you think that these are just anomalous things that
are explained naturally?
Or do you think there are some sort of supernatural things that happen to them?
I think it's something naturally, like something that we just haven't discovered yet.
And it's still not known, obviously, because it's still like a disappearance and mystery, whatever.

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But my choice would go to naturally. I think it's just a fluke that ships and
stuff go missing in these areas.
I mean, if you... Wow. Millions of flights, millions of ships over the course
of the centuries, and a couple hundred disappear?
I don't know. Wow, that is a new take for you. Yeah.

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I mean part of me wants to
believe it's something else don't we all right but sure
i think it's weird that they haven't found most of these
but the ocean is pretty pretty big pretty deep yeah most
of the ocean is still not discovered so you don't like if they sunk somewhere
after like they get destroyed or whatever like how do you know you might not

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be able to find them they could dissipate and i know they said that wrong wrong
word for that yeah i don't think you understand what dissipate means trying
to think of the word i was trying to think of like not dissolve but But like
when your body like. Words are hard.
Decompose. Decompose. Thank you. Forest. You're not nice.
Well, that's nice. Well, I don't know what happened to the rest of my notes
here because there were more things on there to talk about.

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Yeah. The different, like some of the bigger known cases of like missing flights and.
Yeah. Like the. The Malaysian. The squadron.
In the 1940s, these five squadron
army planes that went out for a routine exercise
and got disoriented and all disappeared
and they have yet to find them what about um amelia

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ernhart 80 years ago amelia ernhart isn't that
like who amelia ernhart who say that again am i not saying her name right say
it again amelia ernhart it's air heart error i wasn't doing that you're being
mean you're being nitpicky oh i'm not we can talk about how you pronounce those
soviet names yeah let's do that i would like you to correctly pronounce them.

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No but there have been at least like what
84 missing documented missing flights
since 1948 which that's a relatively small number i would like to know the number
of flights that actually fly through these areas though i would like to compare
those numbers true it'd be interesting to see if that yeah but there's also

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and these don't get as reported as often but there are
hundreds of flights that go missing up near the Aleutian Islands and in the Alaska area,
which is one of those vile vortices triangles.
Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, again, it's all about percentage, you know, and I agree with you.
So I would like to look at the other number, you know, yeah.

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I mean, 84 out of a million.
Yeah. But what if it's 84 out of a hundred thousand? Right, then your numbers are shifting. Right.
Well, some theories suggest that black holes could be portals to other universes,
dimensions, or wormholes.
According to NASA's website, black holes don't provide shortcuts between different
points in space or portals to other dimensions or universes.

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Black holes are also not cosmic vacuum cleaners. They don't suck in other matter.
From far enough away, their gravitational effects are just like those of other
objects of the same mass.
However, the same NASA article does say massive objects like black holes can
bend and distort light from more distinct objects.
This effect, called gravitational lensing, can be used to find isolated black

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holes that are otherwise invisible, meaning black holes can bend time so much
they can wrap around itself.
This is because black holes create strong gravitational fields that curve and
stretch the fabric of space-time, which is what we perceive as gravity.
So, if a black hole can bend time so much that it can wrap back on itself,

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would that potentially create a paradigm where dimensions can overlap and impact one another?
I would think so. Yeah? I mean, I'm not an astrophysicist or any of that.
Come on, don't sell yourself so short. I stated, what do you say, a Motel 6?
Yeah, no, you say the Holiday Inn Express. Same.
Aren't they the same? I don't know. I have no idea.
I don't do hotels. Yeah. What's that one symbol?

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I don't remember what culture uses it, but like the snake that's eating its
tail. You know what I'm talking about? Nazis?
Is it? No. I was like, I don't know.
I don't know. But to me, that's representative of time being circular and can
overlap on each other. I want to say it's India, but I could be wrong.
Yeah. I mean, or that could also just be that snake thing could just be time repeating itself.

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Just history repeating over and over again, Because we never learn. Mm-hmm.
But haven't they postulated that if time makes this loop, like what's the analogy?
You take a piece of paper and you fold it on itself so it makes a little donut.
But that if you compress that, that you could travel between the two different times. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah parts where it's narrowest yeah yeah you create
a portal or a hole and that would be the shortest
point from point yeah because that's because they
do say that space is flat like that like the earth i want to choke you're not
in a good way no but that space is flat but not like a piece of paper but like

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you just explained to where you should be able to go from point a to up going
to be through one of those wormholes instead of going all the way around.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, NASA can say it's not true all they want,
but you know they're studying it. You know they're trying to figure it out.
Oh, 100%. They're just going to tell us it ain't true for the next while.
They probably already know. Is that your official statement?

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They know. They know. That's official?
100%. Okay. Yeah. All right, good. Inside source. Okay. Inside source.
All right. The source inside my head.
Not just yet. Not yet. All right, good. Some scientists believe that black holes
could be wormholes to other galaxies and that supermassive black holes could
be entrances to traversable wormholes that allow spacecraft to travel through spacetime.

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However, the lead researcher of a study published in Monthly Notices of the
Royal Astronomical Society says that we know very little about the internal
structure of wormholes and don't know if they exist at all. Now, hyperspace travel.
Some say that rotating black holes could serve as portals for hyperspace travel,
allowing people to visit other star systems or dimensions.

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So I do think that wormholes are a thing. I think I've said this in a prior episode,
that I think that when you pass and you see that light at the end of the tunnel
of light, that is a wormhole to another dimension or a spirit realm or,
you know. The opening of another vagina.
The opening of another vagina. or buttholes or buttholes or buttholes I don't

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know a baby born on a butthole some people are shit out.
That's not a thing. No, yeah. Shitty people are shit out. Oh.
No, they're just shit on when they're born. They're just shit on. Okay.
That makes more sense. Okay. All right. Well, you know, I mean,
even, I mean. I can see where you get confused. Yeah, I do.
Because your poops are the size of babies. Well, that, and I think women pee

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out of your butts, right?
Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Like a bird. Okay. Birds do that?
All right. I'm good with all this. so according
to nasa the earth's poles are not
literally portals in the sense of a doorway the earth's
poles can be considered as points where the earth's magnetic field connects
with the sun's magnetic field creating temporary magnetic portals that allow

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charged particles to travel between two celestial bodies these portals are called
flux transfer events and are
considered a phenomenon where the
Earth's poles act as a conduit for interplanetary magnetic connections.
I don't understand that. Do you want to explain that? Which part? Yes.

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Well, I pulled this from NASA, but they're talking about, so the reason why
I wanted to discuss Earth's poles is because some people think the Earth is
hollow and that you can slide down a tube from the North Pole and end up on
the South Pole and vice versa.
While the term portals are used in the scientific community,
it's not used in the sense that the layman uses the term portal.

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It's just magnetic information that's in particles that they're kind of saying
that transfer between the sun and the earth. Okay.
So still above my pay grade. And people still believe the earth is hollow,
though. Yes. Do you believe the earth is hollow?
You know, I'm going to have to say no. Do you think it's filled with magma?

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I think it's filled with something.
I don't think it's hollow. Your eyebrow twitched like you were going to say something dirty.
No, I was not going to say that. Like he was holding himself back. No, I was not.
Because I would just say it. But yeah, I don't think it's hollow.
I think it is what it is. A planet filled.

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I mean, the plates have to float on something.
The firmament. the firmament is above us
oh i see it that whole concept breaks my
brain i don't understand what they're trying well it's because it's stupid that's probably
why it's firmament i think firm like bottom stand
on not firm above my head anyway keep going

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with the floating plate yeah so yeah i mean i i think that that there's probably
a layer of lava that we float on because where else would lava come from through
a volcano you know i mean that's from your butthole dude i have had had some
lava come out of my butthole that's why i said from her butthole.
That was a rough couple of days. Too spicy of burritos? No. What were the enchiladas?

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Neither. It was jardiniere pizza.
Oh, I thought you were telling, anyway, you had jardiniere pizza that turned
into bottle rockets out your bum.
Yeah, so they didn't drain the jardiniere sufficiently enough,
so all the oil mixed with everything else just turned into lava.
In fuego. Like, I understood Johnny Cash's song, Ring of Fire,

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because that's what was happening to me. Do you think that's where the mythology
of fire-breathing dragons came from?
From your butthole? From your butthole? I wouldn't doubt it.
You know, like I consider it sitting on ice because it hurts so much.
My husband can relate to you because I made something really hot once and he
just said his butthole was on fire after eating that stuff. That's amazing.

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Yeah. But your husband is a toolbox.
Toolbox. And it wasn't that hot either. He's just like a weenie when it comes
to food too. Yeah, he also goes to a very nice Greek restaurant and orders a
falafel. He didn't get a falafel.
You're right, because he could. He wanted a gyro. No, he wanted a gyro,
not falafel. No, it's different. Falafel has chickpeas. It's the same thing.

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Falafel's chickpeas. Listen.
Chickpeas, I said chickpeas. Chickpeas. Yeah, yeah. There's a chickpea to enter.
There usually is. It's called dinner and drinks.
All right, so let's go into some astrological events.
Events some say that astrological events
such as solar flares solar and lunar eclipses meteor

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showers might come up temporary might open
up temporary portals on earth on october 28th 2021 a massive solar flare unleashed
a blast of charged particles in earth's direction the geomagnetic storm resulted
in the display of stunning auroras but did this powerful solar event also opened
temporary energetic portals.

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National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, also known as the NOAA,
uses a five-level system called the R-scale to indicate the severity of a X-ray-related
radio blackout ranging from an R1 minor to an R5 extreme.
On October 28th, a Category R3 geomagnetic storm erupted from the sun's surface,

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reaching Earth a few days later.
A level 3 geomagnetic storm is considered strong and can result in minor disturbances
to high frequency radio signals and low frequency radio navigation.
Matthias de stefano come on
you should know how to pronounce that one duh come on i
scroll too far down oh on the thing so i'm totally

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like okay yeah matthias de stefano matthias de stefano host of gaia series initiation
happened to be in oregon during the profound solar event these storms from the
magnetic field the sun affect all the planets around and of course they were
when they hit earth they changed the pattern of the magnetic field of the planet.
De Stefano said, so that opens portals all the time because it moves the energy

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of the planet and makes the geometrical patterns have to restore and readapt to something new.
In 2012, NASA published a paper titled Hidden Portals in Earth's Magnetic Field
in which it explained that a scientist had discovered what the Space Agency
refers to as X-points or portals where the magnetic field of the Earth Earth's connect to the sun.

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According to Jack Scudder, the lead physicist who discovered these portals,
this phenomenon creates an uninterrupted connection to the sun's atmosphere 93 million miles away.
When these solar flares occur, everything is much more sensitive and faster.
The best thing to do is to be perfectly aligned with the positive and negative
in our body so we can be a channel.

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That means to be meditating and discharging all this energy going toward the
Earth or the portal we're working with.
DiStefano said, Earth typically experiences periods of heightened solar activity in 11-year cycles.
And scientists are predicting a ramping up of solar activity in the coming years,
including the next solar maximum, July 2025.

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Is this a cause for concern? If it goes straight to us, of course,
it could create many problems with communications, the Internet,
and technology of the planet.
Satellites could shut down, DeStefano said. I always want to say DeStefano,
and I don't know why. Do you know what DeStefano is?
DeStefano? Yes, I do. That's why. Of course, we could be concerned about that,

(01:01:05):
but I wouldn't be really worried.
I would just get prepared for that in case, like having food,
all the normal things for when something happens, when they should take care of.
But I wouldn't really get worried about something terrible happening because
this happens every 11 years.
What else can we learn from these solar flares and the portals they open on Earth?
These cycles that we are living, that the sun is living, is something that injects energy into the planet.

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The solar flares that will arrive in 2025 will be much stronger for us than the previous ones.
So there will be a lot of new energy that could help us to build new philosophies,
civilizations, technology.
Many things could change if we know how to receive them, DeStefano said.
Said earth has had 82 solar flares
so far in 2024 and more than a

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dozen rated r3 and higher with the
strongest one occurring may 14th 2024 which
we were recording that day were we yeah remember missy came home and she's like
look at the oh yeah look at the northern light yeah we were recording that day
so did you feel a portal opening i was trying to open my wife's portal oh god
and that didn't work no but yeah no what about you guys did you guys feel anything nope.

(01:02:19):
I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know. Other than, well,
work life got really shitty after that.
Maybe that was a sign.
It was a shit portal.
A portal potty. A portal potty.
I can actually sleep portal potty as being a portal potty.

(01:02:41):
I think you have a sense. Just constantly making deposits. Going into portal potty.
For some who practice alternative forms of spirituality,
a total solar or lunar eclipse, like the one that traversed the United States
on August 21, 2017, and the one this year on April 8, 2024, making a giant X
across the country, may be seen as more than just an interesting phenomenon.

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It can be a sacred portal experience rich with meaning.
Eclipses are powerful manifestation portals as they amplify our intentions to
co-create with the universe.
Through meditation, ritual, and mindful reflection, one can harness the energies
of the eclipse to support your journey into self-discovery and evolution.

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While these types of portals may not transport you physically to another dimension,
spiritualists believe the timing of such events can leapfrog you into different
timelines and realities.
There are physical impacts on Earth during the time of an eclipse.
During a solar eclipse, when the moon blocks more of the solar radiation from
reaching the Earth, there are massive changes in the ionosphere's electrical conductivity.

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Those changes ripple out, affecting Earth's own electric and magnetic fields.
Just as an FYI, the next partial lunar eclipse will be on September 17th and
18th, 2024, and will be visible in the Americas, Europe, and Africa.
The eclipse will occur during the early hours of September 18th or late on September
17th, depending on your location.

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The best time to view the eclipse will be between 141 to 547 BST.
What the hell is that?
Big super time. Big super time on September 18th. Oh, and just to add,
the full moon on September 18th will also be a harvest moon and super moon.
Woo! Yeah. So I just think this one's a little different in the sense that,

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you know, we've been talking about portals, but they could come in different
shapes and forms in the sense of physical transportation from one location to
the other versus perhaps a spiritual portal, or it's more of a consciousness.
Consciousness so maybe that's what all these portals are maybe we're looking
at it in a more of a physical thing and not as a our consciousness being transported

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somewhere okay i could buy that,
and so the next part might put some folks asleep all right
so guys hit pause grab some
coffee and we're going to talk about quantum tunneling and some more super string
theory quantum tunneling that's kind of what my penis does i think in physics

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quantum tunneling barrier penetration or simply tunneling.
Did you like, did you guys enjoy the way I said that? Yeah.
Barrier penetration, or simply tunneling, is a quantum mechanical phenomenon
in which an object such as an electron or atom passes through a potential energy

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barrier that, according to classical mechanics.
Should not be passable to the object not having sufficient energy to pass or surmount the barrier.
Kind of like my penis. Tunneling is a consequence of the wave nature of matter,
where the quantum wave function describes the state of a particle or other physical
system, and wave equations, such as the Schrodinger equation,

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describe their behavior.
And if you haven't fallen asleep yet, science is studying and testing the theory
of transporting matter through space-time.
Yes, that's a nutshell of that. in short
extremely small particles my penis are
connected with each other even if very
long distances separate them my penis i feel like i'm in school and like the

(01:06:27):
professor's saying something and then like frank's whispering in my ear my penis
every like two seconds that's what it feels like right now or you open the fortune
cookies and you answer the fortune cookie in my
bed in my bed particles move through dense
barriers effortlessly as if barriers do not
exist at all quantum tunneling is a phenomenon where

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a subatomic particle my penis or atom can be present on the opposite side of
the physical obstacle that is normally impossible for the particles to infiltrate
my penis this is as if a person is walking and reaching a 20 meter tall wall
extending a long way on both sides. Not your penis.
Without a long enough ladder, it is impossible to reach the other side of the obstacle.

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However, in the case of quantum tunneling, the person could easily go through
the obstacle without any physical repercussions.
Walk through walls. I would love to do that.
That'd be awesome. Superstring theory, string theory in simple terms,
reimagine what reality is made of.
Instead of treating subatomic particles as the fundamental building blocks of
matter, string theory says that everything is made of unbelievably tiny strings

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whose vibrations produce effects that we interpret as atoms, electrons, and quarks.
In physics, string theory is a theoretical framework in which the point-like
particles of particle physics are replaced by one-dimensional objects called strings.
String theory describes how these strings propagate through space and interact with each other.

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On distant scales larger than the string scale, a string looks just like an
ordinary particle, with its mass, charge, and other properties determined by
the vibrational state of the string.
In string theory, one of the many vibrational states of the string corresponds
to the graviton, a quantum mechanical particle that carries a gravitational force.
String theory is a theory of quantum gravity. And if that doesn't make sense

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to you, just watch season 11, chapter 13 of the Big Bang Theory.
Penny solves string theory.
Penny solves, you know what? That's awesome.
Ever since mankind could count, we would have been fascinated with numbers.
Everything from the patterns of repeating numbers and sequences,
to geometry, to hypothetical math, and infinity.

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But what do all these numbers mean? Many ancient and modern cultures hold math and numbers as sacred.
Some languages such as Hebrew, Hindi, and Devangadi are based mathematical principles
and numerical vibrations, meaning words and texts carry much more powerful than
most others would think.
Anthrologically speaking, many people regard specific dates as portal dates.

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For example, a couple of weeks ago, the spiritual community was all buzzing
with the Lion's Gate portal.
The Lion's Gate portal is a two-week period that occurs annually during Leo
season and runs from late July to mid-August. with August 8th being the pinnacle.
In 2024, the portal was open on July 28th and closed on August 12th.

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Some people refer to August 8th, 8-8, as the Lionsgate portal itself,
and it's also known as the Galactic New Year.
This year was especially strong as 8-8-2024 in terms of numerology was 8-8-8,
adding 2 plus 0 plus 2 plus 4.
For the year. For the year. The Lionsgate portal is a cosmic alignment that

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occurs when the Earth, Sun, Sirius, and Orion align within the Leo constellation.
This alignment is believed to create a powerful energy gateway that's associated
with spiritual healing, manifestation, and transformation.
Some say that the combined energies of Sirius and the Sun create a force field
that opens a gateway to higher realms of awareness and enlightenment.

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Some say that the date is significant because the number 8 is associated with
power, also the infinity symbol.
Did you know that? I did know that. Oh. So the power, change,
transformation, and associated with the symbol for infinity.
I didn't even read that part. I just said that before that.
Oh. Yeah, look at that. Look at you. Wow.
Portal days can be challenging with feelings of nervousness and restlessness

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that can lead people to stretch themselves thin.
However, some say that the portal days can be time to rethink,
develop, and grow, and that people can be rewarded with new insights that help
them become more of who they are. Every year we have 12 repeating portal days,
and they are all said to have their own significance.
With the September 9th portal coming up, those in the spiritual community believe

(01:10:54):
that on this day, the veil between dimensions thins and make it easier to connect
with higher realms and access powerful energies.
This portal act is a gateway propelling humanity towards personal transformation,
manifestation, and spiritual wisdom.
This portal is also known as the energy portal of abundance.
So, yeah. Again, it's more like spiritual type of portal. Yeah,

(01:11:15):
yeah. Yeah, I think there's something to some of those things.
I just, I think, and I know we have a few more sections left,
but I just like how no matter if it's physical or spiritual,
it's, everyone keeps talking about energy.
Yeah. I don't know. I find that interesting. Like, nobody says it's a cartoon
hole in the ground and, whoop, there you go.
Well, I mean, that's what it's looked at. But I think when you really boil it

(01:11:38):
down to what it is, I think it all has to do with energy, you know,
just because energy can't be created or destroyed.
It just changes forms.
So, yeah, I think that.
I think with these different portals, the energy needs to go somewhere else.
What do you think of energy we just build up and just wreak havoc if it didn't move?

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And maybe this is more of a way to balance nature and balance our surroundings. Like a pressure valve?
Yeah. Maybe that's when they're created is when the PSI on my balls get too high.
And instead of the city coming and red tagging my balls, it just a portal opens
up, aka my wife, and it releases the pressure. Maybe.

(01:12:20):
Yeah, you think that works? Yeah. Okay, good. Give it a try.
Oh, she keeps saying no. I've been red-tagged more than once.
Pyramids and Starrcates. Pyramids and the Orion Constellation Theory.
Proposed by the author Robert Bovai in his book, The Orion Mystery.
This theory suggests that the pyramids were created as gateways to the stars.

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The pyramids align with the four cardinal directions and supposedly correlate
with the three stars in Orion's belt.
Some believe this alignment was intentional and symbolized a cosmic connection.
In ancient Egyptian texts and myths often described gods and pharaohs traveling
between realms, sometimes using secret passages or portals.

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There's also much unexplained phenomenon around these pyramids and locations,
including unusual energy fields or magnetic anomalies around the pyramids and
contribute to the portal theory.
The concept of Stargates, popularized by the science fiction TV show Stargate,
involves otherworldly doorways or portals that allow instantaneous travel between
our universe and alternate realms.

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While most theories focus on space-based Stargates, some places on Earth have
also been attributed with special transportive capabilities.
Here are a few interesting points.
Plasma physicist Jack Scudder discovered X-points in the Earth's atmosphere,
where intersecting magnetic fields between the Earth and Sun create portals. These portals release,

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charged particles, and are observable by NASA's SEMIS spacecraft.
These X-points resemble wormholes and may serve as temporary gateways to other
dimensions or universes.
In Absur Egypt, the Pyramid of Abu Ghraib, built in mid-25th century BCE,
contains an ancient alabaster platform that some believe could be Stargate.

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According to legend, it allows communication with gods or other realms.
Realms, not whelms. Whelms? Yeah, whelms. That was me.
Additionally, a wall carving at Abydos depicts what some consider a natural Stargate.
There are claims that the military found a way to open such portals on demand
using a mysterious black box, a black box-like device.

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While scientific evidence remains limited, the allure of Stargates continues
to captivate our imaginations.
What do you guys think of Stargates? I don't know. I was going to ask the same thing.
I think there's something to them. What do you think of these little black boxes?
Do you think it's a thing or do you think it's a rumor?
I don't know. I'd have to give that more thought. But I definitely think that

(01:14:54):
there is, you know, just I have zero evidence for what I'm about to say is more
or less what I want to be real.
I just think that the powers that be just have more stuff, knowledge,
abilities that they tell.
And I don't know how they can hide it from the mass populace other than dumbing

(01:15:15):
us down, which, I mean, if you guys kind of look around, we're all pretty fucking dumb.
So, I mean, it is. Speak for yourself.
Oh, I am. We, I said we. I included me in we. we so yeah i i think i think there's
something there and i want it to be real so much yeah you know you guys

(01:15:36):
Do you think anything in Egypt has... I'm still trying to soak up this information.
It's definitely like this is all like different. The information is new for
me, so I'm like trying to soak it up. But like I can see the Egyptian thing
because there's a lot of like conspiracies with anything with Egypt,
I feel like. And yeah, I'm still mind processing it.

(01:15:56):
Do you think if the pyramids were conductors of energy that...
I feel like we talked about this with Karen and Dave.
But would said...
Stargate portal be within the pyramid or would
it be within the space of the three
i i don't know i envision it like on the tip
of the pyramid like a beacon or a

(01:16:18):
yeah antenna yeah i would say that it was somewhere
within the great pyramid like physically
in it yeah or underground or yes i would think that there would be some sort
of room that wouldn't be i mean i'm going off of science fiction you know it
would be like that portal opening but like taking the three pyramids as.

(01:16:45):
Superconductor factories i don't know generators to
to harness all the energy needed to open
up a doorway a portal and being
able to walk through it so so i think that's where
that doorway would open just you
know my imagination gets the best of me i just
love how a lot of theories go back to the pyramids in

(01:17:06):
egypt yeah there was something in i
don't know dolores cannon put out i don't know 30 books i
don't know how many but in one or two of her books where she was doing
past life regression and hypnosis therapy that there were several patients who
had mentioned that there was some sort of elevated meditational portal like
there was something about the if you you divided the pyramid shape into three

(01:17:30):
slices somewhere in that there was like the
Pinnacle, the apex, strongest point within that pyramid that would harness the
most energy and allow for whatever transcendence, meditation,
portal, whatever type of experience.
That's interesting. Yeah. All right. So wells and tunnels.

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Ever since mankind has been building and abandoning some of their creations
like wells and tunnels, folks have found reasons to dub these locations portals,
often associated with evil and demonic associations.
And how many times have you heard the portal to hell or the devil's portal or
the gates of hell? But are they really?

(01:18:13):
You know, stuff like the Alaskan Hotel, Bobby Mackey's, Eastern State Penitentiary,
Mansfield Reformatory,
Geeman Gate, Darvaza Gas Crater, Seven Gates of Hell, Cape Montepan Caves,
and the list goes on and on and on and on.
And do you think there's any merit to that, or is it just key stories?

(01:18:37):
Yeah, I think those are just more spooky stories.
You know, I definitely think that places like Eastern Tate Penitentiary and
Mansfield Reformatory are these big,
famous penitentiaries and jails
where all that negative energy could be construed as a portal to hell.

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But I think that's just more of just what went on there and the energy that
was left over afterwards.
Some of these other places, I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, there could be something going on there.
But whether or not they're a portal to hell, a gate to hell,
I just think it's just more the creepy vibe that they put off.
But it's interesting just how obsessed with the idea of portals people are. I agree. I agree.

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So mirrors, open windows and Ouija boards. Have you ever used or been scared
to use a Ouija board or a scrying mirror? What about a regular bathroom mirror?
Do you avoid looking into the mirror at night or without a light on?
Why do people cover mirrors after someone's head died? That's actually in Jewish faith.
Why do some say it is dangerous to sleep with a mirror facing your bed? I do every single night.

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Do you have a mirror that faces your bed? I technically do because our closets are mirrors.
Yeah, I have no problems with that. Do you avoid looking at mirrors in the dark? I do.
It's a paranoia thing. No, I actually... Stare down? Yeah.
Sometimes I get... I look in the corner of the mirror. After I pee and the door

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is closed, I will turn off the light to stare at myself in the dark in the mirror
just to see if anything happens.
And then you just scream at yourself because your reflection says...
No, that's why I can stare at myself for so long because I'm in the dark.
In the spiritual world, one spirit sees an open window as an open invitation,
which makes it easy to float right in.
And the mirror looks like a means to keep moving through.

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Beings use mirrors as doorways and can let themselves in and out.
Mirrors and windows are portals in the sense that spirits can move through different dimensions.
What about black mirrors? A black mirror, also known as a scrying mirror,
is a reflective surface that is used to induce a trance-like state in the practitioner,
allowing them to perceive visions, images, or information from the spiritual or astral realm.

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The black color of the mirror is believed to enhance the mirror's ability to
reflect the practitioner's own subconscious and intuitive insights. sights.
Rather than being distracted by external visual stimuli, the dark surface acts
as a focal point, allowing the practitioner to gaze into it and enter a meditative state more easily.
Practitioners use black mirrors to seek guidance, gain insight into the future,

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communicate with spirits or deities, or simply to explore the realms of the subconscious.
The reflective surface is thought to act as a portal or window into the unseen
world, enabling the practitioner to receive intuitive messages,
symbolic visions, or prophetic information.
Entities have been said to also be able to travel through these devices and

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therefore seen by some to be dangerous if not handled properly.
So I find that interesting in the sense that black mirrors can also absorb your
emotions and reflect them back to you.
But one point that i find interesting is
all of our tvs all of our cell phones are in a sense black mirrors when they're

(01:22:04):
not lit up and glowing yeah you constantly have a black mirror facing you so
if you don't have a mirror mirror facing your bed but you got a tv facing your
bed it's the same thing you also avoid looking at the reflection and uh turned
off in a tv yes to be honest,
that's just so silly but then how can you ever prove that spirits are real like you gotta look I know.

(01:22:26):
Again, I want to see it, but then I freak myself out. I don't know what I'm
doing. You're just a self-fulfilled prophecy that you're creating.
You're never going to be able to see it because you never put yourself in a
position to see it. I feel like next time we all go out, you guys are going to be challenging me.
I'll bring my black mirror. Oh, God. I'm just going to throw you downstairs.

(01:22:47):
No, I already fell down the stairs once. I don't want to do it again.
Then she's going to have an NDE and then she'll be like... When...
When it comes to Ouija boards, Modern Consensus agrees with religious orders.
By performing this conjuring activity, you are opening doors and portals to
places you don't know and can't control.
According to Fr. Basil Cole, a Dominican Catholic priest in Detroit, Michigan.

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Consulting a Ouija board is obviously an act of superstition,
and the Ouija board is in fact a portal and opening to receiving diabolical
distortions, False ideas that somehow this board can tell you what the future
is or tell you something about yourself.
The so-called messages from the board prime participants to being open to receiving

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more dark inspirations from the evil one.
Father Vincent Lampert, an exorcist of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis,
said while many turn to a Ouija board because they think it's kind of harmless,
they don't really understand what they're putting themselves up against. I call poppycock.
You don't think Ouija boards open portals? No, I don't think that only the diabolical

(01:23:52):
and the enemy as these Catholic priests.
They got to say that. I know they got it, but I don't think that that's the
only. Is it possible to have negative things come through or negative?
Yes. Is it solely negative? No, I don't think so. It kind of goes back to like
times of old. If you don't understand it, it's automatically evil.
Right. Right. So modern or majority of people think that they're bad because

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somebody told them it was bad or somebody had a bad experience.
But nobody's been taught how to properly use.
Yeah, I just believe it's more whatever energy you put into it or your intention.
So if you have like a bad intention or negative energy, that's going to come
right out when you use the board.
And if you have a positive or a good intention, good things come out of the

(01:24:36):
board. Would you use one? No.
Even if you had sunshine and lollipop intentions? I probably wouldn't use it.
I would be like observing other people use it, but I don't know if I would personally use it.
Maybe after I observe other people in person doing it, then I will do it, but.
Okay, seriously, you're like the one person, or not one, there's many people like this.

(01:24:57):
They're like, you know what, ghosts aren't real. Well, have you ever been ghost hunting? No.
Okay, well, you don't have a frame of reference to say yes or no.
You haven't put yourself in a position to say yes or no.
But what does that have to do with me not wanting to do it?
Because you're saying, oh, I don't know if it's real or not.
No, no, no, no. Well, if you don't do it. I didn't say I didn't know if it was real.

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I said, I feel like it depends on your intent on this.
So why not use it and see if you're.
It's not like I don't believe in it. It's like I'm afraid of it.
That's what it is. I never said I didn't believe in it. Stop being afraid.
That's why if I watch other people do it, then I feel more comfortable doing
it myself. Stop being afraid.

(01:25:39):
No. I still have teeth. It's just always easier for me to observe somebody first before I do something.
It puts that fear out of it for me. I'm going to kick you off the podcast.
You say that every single time. I know. And you still let me return.
I know. It's because I need your stupidity to make me sound smart.
Do you do that all by yourself? Yeah. Oh, 100%. I make everyone that listens

(01:26:01):
to this show so much smarter.
Yes, pretty much. That's why
people listen to this, because they feel smarter. That's good. S-M-R-T.
He totally misspelled Frank. Yeah. When rituals and seances often feature in
folklore, spiritual practices, and fictional stories,
there is no scientific evidence to suggest that they can open actual portals

(01:26:26):
to other dimensions or realms.
These concepts are more rooted in cultural beliefs, mysticism,
and imagination rather than empirical physics.
All religions practice ritual. The Catholic Church believes that during communion,
or the Eucharist, the bread and wine that a priest blesses become the body,

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blood, and soul and divinity of Jesus Christ.
This is known as transubstantiation and is a central part of the Catholic faith.
Are they opening portals to higher dimensions, do you guys think?
I think so. And I think they know it and they believe it. But they're not going
to use those terms. They're going to say, this is our ritual,

(01:27:07):
this is protocol, this is how you do it.
But it's still a repeatable practice over and over. Okay.
Yeah, I think, again, for me, it all goes back to intent, like using the Ouija
board, whatever your intent is.
So I think on some levels it does change.
There have been some recorded miracles of the wine actually turning into blood.

(01:27:32):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, but there have been many that the Eucharist and the blood
or the wine turned into like...
This is a side note, but like, if the bread turns into the body,
but Catholics condone cannibalism, I'm really confused. Yeah, me too, maybe both.

(01:27:55):
If you're drinking human blood and not flesh. Well, let's take it,
let's go another route now.
That Christianity does not want you to do blood sacrifices, those are evil.
But god made himself into man
to sacrifice to blood sacrifice himself to himself
for the forgiveness of sins of all humans yeah

(01:28:17):
i mean riddle me that batman pretty much yeah well i think that's a great way
to end this episode so i hope you guys enjoy i know it was a long one so if
you guys stuck through it thank you you guys let us know what you think of portals
and and And are they openings from one vagina to another?
One butthole to another? One butthole to another? Or what are some of your favorite

(01:28:40):
portals? You know, and their names.
Portholes. Portholes. So, any parting words here, ladies?
I just wish they were real. I don't know if I believe. Yeah.
But thanks for sticking through it with us. Yeah. Well.
See you on the other side of the porthole. See you on the other side of this portal.
See you. My name is Frank. My name's

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Brie And this is Lynette Thanks for listening to Fringe Beyond Limits.
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