Unraveling the Apocalypse: Decoding "Leave the World Behind

In this episode of Fringe Beyond Limits , our hosts delve into the gripping 2023 Netflix film, Leave the World Behind. Join us as we explore the chilling psychologically thrilling scenario of a mysterious blackout that plunges two families into a state of isolation and uncertainty. Both the film and the FBL crew explore the themes of parenthood, race, class, and the breakdown of social order during an apocalyptic event.

Is America (or the world) doomed to for a cyber-attack that has the ability to cause economic collapse, civil war, physical and social isolation, or WWIII if/when this cataclysmic event comes to pass or will we come together and help our neighbor?

Join Frank, Bre, and Lynette as they discuss the film's intricate plot, hidden easter eggs, and the broader messages it may convey about our society. They'll discuss the film's exploration of technology addiction and its impact on our modern lives. How does our reliance on technology make us vulnerable in the face of a crisis? They also examine the historical fissures within American society that are laid bare during the blackout.

What are the potential consequences of such an event in our interconnected world? And how does the film serve as a wake-up call for us to reconsider our relationship with technology?

Discover the underlying symbolism, color theory, the mysterious QR code that links to a real abandoned amusement park, and even the date this may all come to pass!!! 

Whether you're a fan of thought-provoking cinema or just curious about the film's deeper meanings, this episode will leave you pondering long after it's over. Tune in for an intriguing analysis that blends humor, insight, and a touch of conspiracy theory.

"Deep down we all knew this day was coming. There’s no going back to normal." Are you ready?

Episode Transcript

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Music.

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Welcome to another episode of Fringe Beyond Limits.
Welcome back, everyone. Hey. Howdy ho. How are you guys doing?
It's been a week. It's always been a week. It's always been a week.
But yesterday I went for a walk in the woods and I feel much better. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

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Were you Little Red Riding Hood or The Wolf?
I was Snow White.
Because a deer walked within feet of me and it just stood there and it looked
at me and then I had a squirrel following me and I had chipmunks and birds following
me and I was having my little Snow White moment. Snow White moment. Yeah. All right.

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Is there a wicked witch to poison you?
Life. Life? Life is poison. All right. It's like a good metaphor.
Yeah. Do you at least have a Prince Charming to kiss you back alive?
I do. Okay, good. You just have to find me in the woods, though.
Gotta find her first. I'm not sure that's where Prince Charming will be looking.

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Well, it was in the house. No way. She was in a coffin in the woods under glass like a cheese board.
Yes. Yes. Like on display. Yeah. She's presenting.
All right. Yeah. So, Brie, you?
I got my mattress. Oh. Oh. How is it? It's comfy. You break it in?

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Just slept sleeping in the normal right now okay that's disappointing,
that was lynette that asked that not me it was that time of the month so no
no like what do you mean it was the time of the month,
For sleeping. Time for sleeping? Yeah, duh. What else would it be? I have no idea.

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I've never heard anybody say it's that time of the month.
Yeah. You know, my period. Yeah.
Like an exclamation point? Like a dot. Like boom.
Okay. I don't know what that is. I don't. I got nothing for you,
sir. Yeah, I got nothing. I have no idea how to comment on that.
What's the other name? Aunt Flo. Aunt Flo.

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Like Florence? Is that so short
for Florence? Yeah. I didn't know you and Missy had an Aunt Florence.
Yeah. Oh. Things that you don't know. She's also on those progressive commercials.
Oh. And also the video games, Diner Dash. Mm-hmm.
Main characters, Flo. Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember that game. I don't know an Aunt Flo.

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I've actually always wondered if they modeled the progressive lady after her
because they look almost similar.
Oh, interesting. If you think about it. I can't think about it because I don't
know what the Diner Dash lady looks like.
Look it up. You have the computer in front of you. Google it.
Yeah, I'm not going to Google that.
Probably something like a bleeding vagina I might pull off or something.

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I don't know what the guys are talking about. Yeah, maybe. All right.
How was your week? Yeah, it was great. It was nice. It sucked. I need more alcohol.
Just all of the above. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. You got enough wine to last
your year here, so I think you have enough.
Yeah. Yeah, I do. So I'm going to just start chugging wine.

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So we'll have that competition later. Instead of a beer bong,
it's wine bong. Wine bong. Yeah. Bong wine.
Bong wine. Bong wine. I think that flows better.
It ant flows better. Bong wine. Yeah, pretty much. Ant flow flows better with
the bong of wine. Yeah, something like that.
Yeah. Red, right? Red wine? Red, red wine.

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All right, so we got, what, things that keep you up at night?
Yeah, are we still doing that? Yeah. Okay, great, I'm all for it.
Do you guys want to start off with one?
Yeah, sure. Okay. If you think about it, the voice in your head can scream louder,
whisper, and speak in a normal voice, but it's always the same volume.

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Never noticed that? No.
Yeah, technically it's always the same volume, even though it's yelling at you.
I have more than one voice in my head Dude that's what I was actually going
to bring up For my what keeps me up at night With voices in my head.
Great minds think alike This is interesting Actually great voices in your head think alike,

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Maybe it's just a collective voice. I just think it's different people in my
head. But it's always the same volume.
No, it's not. Not in my head.
You don't know what goes on in my head. I don't think anyone wants to know what
goes on in your head. No, nobody does.
It's not like aliens will come down to research on your head and then they'll
actually drop you back off because they're too scared.

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If they try doing that, I will guarantee that they will have seizures nonstop
for the rest of their being.
Well, at least we know that aliens won't ever come to our planet anymore after
that happens. Yeah, no. No, my mind will scare them away.
So I'm pretty, that's why I'm not scared of aliens. Bring them on.
Yeah. Yeah. So, what was yours, Madeline? Mine was just that the voices sometimes are different.

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Sometimes it sounds female. Sometimes it sounds male. Sometimes it sounds like
me. Sometimes it doesn't.
And i didn't know if that was if anybody else
experienced anything like that i actually read somewhere when i was thinking
like reading about being intuitive that if you have voices in your head like
that it means that you are clever and not clever you talk to dead people basically

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it's like a sign great so you talk to dead people well they don't tell me anything fun,
why not i don't know i try asking questions like who is this and i get nothing thing.
Do you ever hear different tones or voices or accents or like?
Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. I just thought it was my own little internal monologue.

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Just today I'm going to have a British accent. And tomorrow I'm going to sound
like I'm from Kentucky or something, you know?
Yeah. I mean, that sounds par for the course.
I just. Please don't lock me
away. Please. That's not the reason I'm going to lock you away. Oh. Yeah.

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What is oh just we have
18 past episodes we can go back and listen to
you there's there's plenty there's plenty so so i think what keeps me awake
at night is caffeine yeah yeah caffeine will keep me awake and not let me sleep
physically and mentally or one or the other mentally okay yeah Yeah,

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I'm always physically tired.
My body's tired, but brain is. Yeah, at this age, your body is always tired.
It's just ready to pack it in, pack it up, pack it in. Let me begin. Sorry.
Yeah, it's ready just to call it a day and say goodbye. And my mind is like, no, not yet.

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No, yeah. Let's do this now. It happens to me all the time when I stop drinking
caffeine and I'm still doing it. Yeah.
So it's not the caffeine for me. No, it's the caffeine for me.
That's what keeps me up at night.
You should switch to herbal tea. Herbal tea? Herbal tea. Chamomile.
Chamomile? Chamomile.
I want to tell you something. We're hitting some great stuff on this episode already.

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Talking about herbal tea and chamomile. I mean, people listening are enthralled.
Well, we're going to break their brain with today's episode. Yeah, what is that?
That we want to talk about or i want to talk about because i won't stop talking
about the leave the world behind uh netflix so the netflix movie yeah leave

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the world behind yeah okay yeah,
what do you want to talk about there are 10 000 easter eggs in this film and
i've i don't think i'll ever watch a film the same ever again in my life okay
just there's so many things that it It feels intentional,
so I just want to talk about some of them because they're kind of mindfucky.

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Okay. Yeah. All right. I like mindfucky.
That's going to be... See, from chamomile tea to mindfucky. Yeah.
There's no places we won't go here.
So all right so you guys watch it i i i watched it the one time i know i said
i was going to re-watch it i
just the weekend got away from me that's fine but i did watch it one time,

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i'm watching it and this is actually one of those things that's keeping
me up at night because i am my mind doesn't understand one thing in that movie
and i am frustrated sexually that too oh well i mean you have a brand new mattress
that you could have broken in but you chose not to so So I put that on you.

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My husband's too busy with this new PlayStation 5.
I just meant by jumping on the bed. What were you talking about?
Oh, just jumping on it? Yeah, like a kid jumping on the bed.
No, I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant.
Oh, we also got an adjustable base.
Is the entire thing adjustable or each side is singularly separately adjustable?

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You can adjust the head part, the feet part. Right and left? Yeah.
Well, no, it's one main bed, so we can't have... Gotcha. We didn't do two separate tiny beds.
Gotcha. Yeah. Tiny beds. So it's not like two hospital beds put together. Correct.
Okay. It's one big bed. See, you should have done two hospital beds put together,

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because then when you're not wanting to, you can just pull your bed away from
it, and Brian can't reach you.
You can sleep like you can sleep like you like like from the 1950s.
They have two separate heads in the bedroom.
Got an invention. They need to make when you want separation like those first

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class seats that have the windows with the partition. Yeah, the partition. Oh, that'd be awesome.
Get your feet off my side of the bed. Cut them toenails.
So a little dive into the male mind.
Males will not share a bed with each
other with each other okay yeah so which is weird my

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husband shared a bed with his friends listen i have no problem sharing a bed
you know and friends of mine are like no we're not sharing a bed i go why not
they're like because that's just gay i go that's not gay no that's sleeping
no that's that's far from it yeah and he's like well let's put
pillows in between us i go you think a fort a pillow fort is going to stop me

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if i wanted to fuck you no that's not going to stop yeah i mean that's not going
to stop a little pillow bridge
guess what my rock hard penis you won't see it but will not be stopped by pillows
you know my husband grabbed his friend's butt once thinking that he was sleeping with a girl.
And that's why men don't share bed and that's why none of them will share a

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bed with my husband anymore hey where's your hand in between two pillows those
aren't pillows what movie don't i thought you just made it up planes trains
and automobiles never seen it steve martin and nope,
really never seen it wow i think i've seen it but i don't remember anything
of it okay i mean i heard the title yeah i've seen it all right so anyway yeah

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i mean so that's just a little little It'll venture into me and my friends.
I'm like, yeah, a pillow won't stop me from fucking you.
Oh, that's why no one wants to share a bed with you. Right. No,
absolutely. Because I'll fuck anything. Yeah. Yeah.
Poor Missy. She can like dig a little hole into the pillow for you.
Oh, 100%. I always have a knife with me.
I didn't mean with the knife. Oh, well, with your micro penis.

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With Stanley? Yeah. Do you know why it's called Stanley?
Because it's a steamer? No. It's like the power drill.
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's Stanley. There's a lot of Stanleys out there.
I know. but I mean, come on, geez.
All right. So I don't know how we got off, uh, off on this topic, but that was great.
All right. So unraveling the apocalypse, decoding, leave the world behind.

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Done, done, done. All right. So, um,
In the intriguing world of Leave the World Behind, the movie that has sparked
some interesting conversations and disturbing theories.
So what kind of theories has it sparked? Why not?
Why, you're just going to come
right at me. I have 18 pieces of paper in here. I know, I know, I see.

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It's going to take a while to get to page 10. That's where everything's at.
All right, so what some may not know is the 2023 Netflix movie Leave the World
Behind was based on the 2020 novel by author Ruman Alam.
Both book and film explore a number of theories about what might be happening to the world.
Alam's book was a finalist for the 2020 National Book Award in the category

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of fiction, was on the 23 bestsellers, and one of Barack Obama's summer favorites.
Now what's interesting is that it came out in 2020 and something else happened in 2020. Yep.
The pandemic. Boom, boom, boom.
I think you just blew out the speakers. Well, I mean, at least I'm blowing something.

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Netflix's adaptation retains the book's premise, but makes some notable changes
to the plot and characters.
Director Sam Esmail, who also directed series like Mr.
Robot and Homecoming, stated that he aimed to create a standalone piece,
a separate interpretation of the story rather than a carbon copy of the book.
Seeing as this film was co-produced by the Obamas who are going to focus on

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the creative liberties they took when making this film with some interspersed details of the novel.
Spoiler alert, if you have not read this book or seen this film,
we are going to discuss the details and conclusion in the podcast episode. Mm-hmm.
Please do, because I'm still confused.

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You're still confused as to why the chicken crossed the road. oh
because i wanted to get to the other side ding so
that was just ridiculous you
started it this suspenseful and provocative novel is keenly attuned to the complexities
of parenthood race and class the apocalyptic psychological thriller film takes

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it a step further to illustrate rapid the breakdown of social.
Leave the world behind also explores how our even closest bonds are reshaped
and unexpected new ones are forged during times of crisis.
All right, so the... I was just going to say, let's just run through a breakdown

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of the film and... Okay, yeah, so we'll go... Then we can kind of pull out some of the fun... Love it.
Tidbits. All right, so yeah, we'll run through the synopsis here.
All right, so with Leave the World Behind,
characters Clay and Amanda Sanford, played by Julie Roberts and Ethan Hawke,

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arranged an impromptu weekend getaway vacation to a remote corner of Long Island
with their kids Archie and Rose,
played by Charlie Evans and Farrah McKenzie.
Looking for a quiet reprieve from a busy life in New York City and some quality
family time, Amanda rents a luxurious home for the week.

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After arriving at the rental, Amanda goes to the store. While shopping for groceries,
Amanda sees a man, who later learn is Danny, played by Kevin Bacon,
stocking up on large quantities of canned food and water.
Clay and the kids stay back at the house. The kids are swimming in the pool,
and Clay is prepping a meal, watching a baseball game, relaxing.

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After Amanda returns, they decide to make it a beach day.
Later, while the family is relaxing at a nearby beach, they nearly evade an
oil tanker that runs aground and crashes onto the shore merely yards away from where they sat.
On their drive home from the beach, they act as if nothing ever happened.
When they return to the house, they notice the TV and Wi-Fi are not working

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and a pair of deer stare at them.
After the kids had gone to bed, Amanda and Clay are enjoying a nightcap and
a game of Jenga, but are interrupted by a late-night knock at the door.
The knock comes from a homeowner, George H.
G. H. Scott, with his daughter Ruth, played by Marishala Ali and Mia Hala.

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They arrive in a calm state and with somewhat reserved panic look to their demeanor.
They are seeking to shelter in their home. Cell phones are not working.
GH explains that a blackout has swept the city and is the cause for their return.
Should Amanda and Clay trust this couple and vice versa? What happened back in New York?

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Is the vacation home isolated enough from civilization?
Is it a truly safe place for their families?
And are they safe from each other? so lynette
these are the questions that are running through the viewer's
mind right the viewer's mind so what were you thinking
at this moment part of the movie there is

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very clear like racism and profiling and jumping to conclusions on on the characters
that definitely caught my eye kind of just depicting u.s culture as it is today
you know you have the amanda character who is.
Someone who works in relationships for her

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day job but she is very she makes very uh what micro-aggressive kind of comments
and her husband clay is kind of gives the impression that he's kinder but he's
got this kind of aloof demeanor about him like yeah let's just have some people
but we don't know. Stay in the house with us.
And yeah, so that's what, you know.

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But then you kind of ask yourself, well, what would I do if I was at a vacation
house and somebody knocked on the door and says, this is my house?
You know, how would you react? Right.
You're far away from home. You don't know this person from Adam because you
booked it on Airbnb or Vrbo. Right. So how do you know? Right, right.
Bree, what were you thinking during this part? Do you even remember this part

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of the movie? I do, because my first thought was, is this a thriller?
And I thought, at least people are going to get killed.
So you immediately jumped off as to that black people were evil and were going
to get murdered by white people.
No, it has nothing to do with that. It just reminded me of one of those thriller
movies where people stay in
the middle of nowhere and all the people are like, oh, this is our place.

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And now we're going to convince you that this is our place, but we're going
to actually come in and kill you.
See, so what I thought was, this is what I thought. I thought...
That it was really the African-American people's house and the white people
weren't going to believe them and somehow take them hostage.
Oh. And like, you know what I mean? To keep themselves safe.

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So that's where I was kind of wondering, thinking that was the road it was going to go down.
But then I kept remembering that, well, this is like an apocalyptic type of movie.
So i think it's got a broader narrative some maybe not maybe and so it was i
was kind of going back and forth and trying to figure out ahead of time how

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this was going to play out.
So yeah that's where i was oh that's interesting
yeah i actually never thought the whole entire movie was anything
had to do with race no it didn't mean
pop in my head yeah well i
was just trying to figure out if this was a thriller or not yeah i mean no
i mean the julia roberts character definitely had

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i just thought she was a bitch no i i really thought
that there was some major underlying racist tones to
how she acted towards them yeah there were so many gringeworthy comments i just
thought she hated people because at the very beginning she goes i hate people
yeah and then that's why i just thought it's just she just didn't like people
yeah but when you're exposed to racism that's usually a phrase people say when

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they're directing it towards only a certain type of person.
And unfortunately, I've been around a lot of racist people.
You know, not just racist, homophobic, racist, just small-minded, close-minded people.
It's amazing that I turned out so well-balanced. Oh, so balanced. Oh, geez.
So Amanda is suspicious. Oh, look at that. It kind of just picks up right where we talked about.

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Amanda is suspicious and doesn't want them to stay. Clay, however,
decides he trusts them enough and lets them stay the night in the basement.
Later in the night, the television switches to display an emergency warning
from the emergency broadcast system on all channels.
The next morning, Rose is frustrated that the Wi-Fi and TV are still down,

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which has prevented her from watching the series finale of Friends.
Now, Rose is the daughter of Julia Roberts, right? Yes. Okay.
So she couldn't watch the series finale of Friends.
Amanda notices four news alerts on the phone, two of which are about the blackout
affecting the East Coast,
a third alert about a hacker attack being behind the power outage,

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and the final one beginning with the word breaking and containing corrupted or encrypted text.
Attempting to learn more about the disruptions and what's going on,
Clay says he will drive into town to find a newspaper and talk to the locals.
G.H., who is the African American person, right? The homeowner.
The homeowner says he is going to head over to the neighbor,

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Huxley's house, to check on them and see if they know anything.
Amanda, Ruth, and the kids are to stay home. Ruth is very concerned about nearby
power plant as she believes this is the first place cyber attackers would hack
to cause this outage so where do you do you guys have anything,

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interesting thoughts at this point of the movie where it seems as though like
every scary movie the one thing you shouldn't do is break up and go your own
way and this is exactly what they're at least two characters are doing that's
a good point I didn't even well I don't watch enough of movies yeah no you don't
do movies i just obsess over one or two of them.
Well thank you for bringing this into our life but yeah that's that's a really

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good point if you're in a place of emergency let's all scatter right yeah right
i mean you can't get a hold of anybody because there's no right and then on
top of that i mean the two men right who are,
Right. Right. This is not my belief system because I think that Julia Roberts
character is much more productive than her husband in this in this movie.

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But the two men are the ones that
decide to go and leave all the women and children behind, which is weird.
Like you if you would do that, I would think you would kind of do it in groups.
Right. Yeah. Like a buddy system. Right. Right.
So. So. But also it seemed like Clay just wanted to get away.
As much as he's like, I'm just going to go grab a newspaper and see if I can help.

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The perception I had from him was, I can't be around my kids and family right
now. They're stressing me out. Yeah.
He did seem very weak minded. Yes. Yeah. I do agree.
Like not good under pressure, not good in stressful situations.
He needs everything to be copacetic and relaxed. I like that word.

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You do? Yeah. Oh, you're welcome.
I'll say it one more time. Copacetic.
So yeah so he definitely seems like a very weak-minded individual,
privileged almost yes yeah brie any
thoughts any questions well during this part i even got more confused i'm like

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okay maybe gh and his daughter are not bad people and they're because we're
working together now so i'm confused i'm like okay maybe this is not a thriller
anymore but i'm like clay's leaving he's probably gonna be the first one to die
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That was my first thought.
Weak as Link. Yeah. A hundred percent. He should have died. Yeah,
he should have. I would have murdered him if I was there.
All right. So Clay gets lost without his GPS.

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He pulls over and exits his car to look around. Missing a few seconds of clear
reception on the radio broadcasting news of the cyber attack having catastrophic
environmental effects in the South and also impacting animal migration patterns.
A little while later, Clay comes across a frantic and panicked Spanish-speaking
woman on the side of the street.

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Clay, not knowing any Spanish or what to do, drives away and abandons the woman on the road.
After speeding away from the woman, he encounters a drone dropping leaflets written in Arabic.
GH searches the neighbor's home, finds a satellite phone inside,
and determines that there is no signal from the satellites. lights.
On the beach nearby, he discovers the records of a recent plane crash just before

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narrowly escaping another airliner crashing.
Rose sees a massive herd of deer standing motionless in the backyard.
Rose walks with Archie in the woods where they come across an empty shed and
Archie removes a tick from his ankle on the way back.
While the kids are out, G.H. confides confides to Amanda the events he has witnessed.

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He thinks the satellite connectivity has been disrupted, but he is cut off by
a loud bang followed by a massive ear-piecing shrill noise that causes everyone
to fall to their knees screaming and covering their ears.
I hated this part of the movie. That noise, like I muted it just because it

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was so uncomfortable to hear.
I don't know. Maybe I had my speakers up too loud, but maybe probably probably
it was it was brutal can you hear me now what yeah so.
Amanda is julia roberts right yep yeah
so i didn't like the fact that gh

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kept ruth as his daughter out of
the conversation because she
is an adult right so i think they should
have definitely not let the kids know anything like going on
at this point which i agree but all
the adults should have been on the same page i just think he
didn't really want her to know about the airplane thing because they're

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expecting their her mom his wife to come back
on a plane so he didn't want to freak her out with
that that was the main issue i it was more of
a father protecting his child yeah even though
it doesn't matter how old they are i understand but at the
the same time well the daughter knew
something yeah she was semi on the inside yeah

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and you really need to let your children especially
adults make their own decisions you can't make it for them and i feel by by
withholding all that's going to do is drive a wedge into their relationship
during this period where everyone needs to be together and trust everyone wholeheartedly

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and And without, you know, without question.
So by doing this, all he's doing is making her, giving her a reason to distrust
him again in the future by not telling her everything.
That's perfectly valid. Yeah. But as mentioned before, like the, the.
Portion of this book and movie was to talk about like

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parenting yeah and how different folks raise
their kids in a would you know everyone's
might have a strict household might have a lax household might have an abandoned
type of household right or you know or what is it what is the phrase like helicopter
helicopter mom or parent or whatever yeah so yeah yeah but you bring up a good

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point Like by making that decision,
how does that potentially impact future relationship moving forward?
Right, right. Especially, you know, during cyber attack, right?
So, yeah, that's the only, I mean, I could understand a teenager and younger,
but as an adult, you know, you know that you raised your child to be X.

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So GH seemed like a very strong-willed, had his head on straight.
And so if he and and ruth seemed
like a very confident strong woman
yeah but there was one moment where ruth and
amanda were sitting at the kitchen counter or whatever
and they were talking about what they do for a living

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or something like that and there was one part where ruth says you know i'm kind
of in between things i'm trying to like figure myself out i don't want to commit
to anything so because the whole time i'm wondering like how old is she is she
late 20s early 20s but But I think that kind of gave it away that she's maybe
just recently graduated.
And while she's got some pieces figured out, she also still has a little bit

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of that undeveloped brainchild type of personality or perspective, I should say.
Yeah. But I mean, I agree.
But she still comes off as a very strong and independent woman,
which was awesome to see in a movie.
So i think her father sees that
as well and should have you know i mean i

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get trying to protect your kids but you know it comes a point to
where we all need to band together and work
through this together so i don't know i mean it's nice that we all have different
opinions yeah we know you're not clay you're not just gonna run away no i'm
not yeah i would do something stupid and probably get us all killed yeah yeah
probably so back of the house amanda recalls a man stockpiling supplies whom

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G.H. assumes to be Danny, his contractor.
Clay returns shaken with the leaflet, which Archie partially translates as death to America.
The Sanfords decide to drive to Amanda's sister and sisters in New Jersey,
but find the expressway jammed with collided brand new self-driving Teslas.

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They narrowly avoid more incoming Tesla cars, continue to drive into the pile
and are forced to return to GH's house.
Did this seem like fuck with your head?
You know to tell you the truth when i saw that i
kind of thought that the cars
had a mind of their own like almost like terminator machines came

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back came to life but then
as i started thinking like oh well
it makes sense if it's a cyber attack these are just going haywire
yeah they got well then the screen only showed
it for a few moments when she's looking at the window sticker it says
summon my car to the parking lot auto
driving self-driving blah blah so if it was a cyber attack and hackers just

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summoned all the cars to drive to a certain point whether it's off a cliff or
to a bridge or to whatever right can you imagine being in one of those oh i
cannot i was more when i watched that but the first thought it was like why are they all white.
Because there's like only like there's only white cars like there's
no black there's no red there's well elon said

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you can get the car he just recently did this but you
can only get his cars in i think black or white and if you want a different
color or maybe you can only get it in white but if you want a different color
you have to pay for it now and a lot of auto manufacturers are doing that really
yeah that's so weird because it's cheaper for cars it's cheaper for them how
is it cheaper i mean you don't you just buy a bucket you don't have to custom

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blend colors you just buy
buckets and buckets of white paint yeah but i mean even if it's a color you're
still paying the same amount for red paint than you are for white paint well
no you as the consumer pays an upcharge i understand that but what i'm saying
as a manufacturer even if i go to,
but if i go to benjamin more there's not a different price for each color paint

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that i buy it's all the same price if i want a gallon of paint of x y or z it's
the same Yeah, but by streamlining your process, you save money.
You don't have to buy blue and red and green and orange and blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah for one car.
You know what I'm saying? You can mass produce everything in one color.
It's just manufacturers being cheap.
Yeah. It's just corporate greed. It's also corporate greed. That too.

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Yeah. And that's what it boils down to. Uh-huh.
All right. So throughout the night, Ruth asks Clay provocative questions,
and they later discover flamingos in the pool.
Amanda and GH establish a friendly bond, but they are cut off by a second shrill
noise and the power fails.
Later, when all four family members are huddled together in the same bed,

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Rose tells Amanda a version of the parable of the drowning man from an episode of The West Wing.
Archie falls asleep, burning up with a fever.
What was the slight twist?
So when I actually researched the West Wing parable, it was actually entitled
Two Boats and a Helicopter.

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Whereas the example that Rose gives as she's falling asleep was a radio transmission
as a warning, a boat to save you, and a ladder from a helicopter.
So the difference is there was a radio heads up instead of two boats trying
to come save you. Gotcha.
My eyes are burning. I'm not crying. The next morning, Archie's teeth inexplicably fall out.

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Believing it is related to the tick bite, G.H. suggests visiting Danny for medicine.
Rose is now missing, and G.H. and Clay take Archie to visit Danny.
While Amanda and Ruth search for Rose.
At the shed, the two are confronted by an even larger herd of deer, which they scare away.
Way gh and clay attempt to convince
danny to help archie which results in an armed standoff

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between gh and danny clay intervenes convincing
danny to help archie danny informs them
that another neighbor may be equipped with an underground bunker
and suggests that the shrill noises which have
most likely led to archie's teeth falling out result from the
use of microwave away of weapons so it
was cool to see at the shed when

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what the herd of deer that amanda basically
saved ruth because ruth froze
yeah also when you said the shed my brain immediately went to the shed aquarium
and i thought you're gonna tell an anecdote so it took me a second to reel that
back in i'm just gonna put this in your mind i am not that clever to go to the

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shed yeah no there there There was a lot to unpack with this part,
but I don't even know which place to start.
But when I was watching the film and his teeth were falling out,
and obviously also with that sound thing was that actually did happen in Cuba.

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People were being bombarded with radio waves causing headaches and their teeth
to fall out and things of that nature. 60 Minutes even did an episode on it
of how politicians are being targeted by.
Radio waves whether you can auditorily hear it or you can't hear it because
it's outside of the threshold of hearing it's called the havana syndrome yes

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thank you welcome yeah i've heard of it so when that happened i was like oh
yeah i was hoping you would bring that up yeah i don't want to step on your
toes when i saw the teeth coming out my first thought was kevin fever,
that movie yeah i don't think when that did that movie yeah i didn't do that that's why i looked
at you and that's why yeah yeah what i first

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thought of was if you dream
i think this is an italian thing if you
dream of your teeth falling out that's a bad omen i've had
a couple of streams in the past yeah did bad things happen afterwards i can't
even tell you well it's supposed to indicate change so that change could be
bad but it yeah well i mean it could mean like you're letting go of something

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too so that might even be cutting people out of your life as well like Like
it could be tumultuous. Yeah.
Or it could just be part of the natural process.
Yeah, maybe. Or technically even both, right? It could be one of a million different
things. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah.
In the movie, G.H. theorizes that an enemy might be trying to destabilize the

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United States through a cyber attack, information blackout, and civil war. G.H.
Tells Clay and Archie that on the basis of his work with military contractors,
the country is in a three-stage campaign leading first to breakdown of social
order and resulting in a coup d'etat or civil war.
He believes that people will be forced to turn against each other and that the

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families need to take shelter in a bunker to survive.
At the same time, Amanda and Ruth watch New York City's skyline being bombed
with gunfire and mushroom clouds.
Rose then finds the neighbor's house with a bunker. Inside, a computer message
warns of attacks by rogue military elements and elevated radiation levels in many U.S. cities.

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She also finds the DVD Friends and watches the series finale.
And that, spoiler alert, is how the movie ends. so and i'm still confused yeah
that doesn't surprise anyone here.
Behind so that was the general synopsis

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lynette where would you like to start
oh boy i guess maybe the first
thing that caught my mind in this film was
the usage of color there was
a very distinct red and
blue and black and white okay so

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if if you know anything about color theory and and
things of that nature that blue is a
serene color it's supposed to bring peace it's supposed to kind of calm you
down and that color was typically used in the film when When the main characters
were living in normal times or status quo or when things were of the usual prediction,

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they could predict, you know, things.
And then the color red was thrown in there when controversy,
when upheaval, when something dramatic or something dangerous happens, potentially.
And then you have a lot of this black and white of, I think,
indicating a dichotomy.

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Of you have, I mean, and you can even take the colors, you can take it political,
you can take it personal, you can take it from an emotional standpoint,
but there was very much, whether it's the lighting or the clothes or the house or the car,
you know, everything had very, what I think is strategic use of color.
And I thought it was actually...

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Creative as well it obviously depicts mood but
and the other thing that
really jumped out at me and i caught it the
first time i don't know if you guys noticed it but the
artwork on the walls changed throughout the film
i did not catch that i did not catch it either yeah so
the one thing i did catch though is to your

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point on the colors is that when just
before gh and ruth right
ruth show up and they're playing
jenga having wine the entire hue
of the movie went dark yeah you
know like it was just there was almost like a filter yeah

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yeah like a dark yeah yeah grayish shadow dark yeah right right when the doorbell
rings i feel so is when it kind of switched over to that dark hue so i did catch
that and from that point forward nothing even Even when they're out in the pool during the day,
it seemed like it was an overcast, even though the sun was shining. Yeah.

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You can clearly see that there was sun on their skin.
It had a very flat or muted type of color to it. Yes.
Yes. So yeah, I did notice that, but, and sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt,
but yeah, I did not notice the artwork changing throughout the movie.
Yeah. So in, in the main living room where the dining room table is,

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there was massive, I mean, you really can't miss it, artwork that showed about
four little triangles or steeples. They're all abstract art.
And in a sense, it kind of depicts the characters in the film.
And at one point, Julia Roberts is standing in front of the tallest triangle.
Clearly, she's the head of the household or whatever. But as the film goes on,

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that image becomes more and more distorted.
And Thank you.
And then towards the end of the film, it's like a complete mess.
It's not even close to what the artwork looked like before. Oh,
wow. That's really interesting.

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There was also waves behind the headboard of the primary bedroom.
And when they first moved to the house, it's pretty calm, serene. The waves are low.
As things start to happen, the wave starts getting higher and higher.
And towards the end of the film, they're fully covered in the waves.
And it's it's also that drama

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of they're kind of in over their head right that's
pretty interesting yeah that was nice catch yeah another
thing is there was a constant representation of 666 oh really film okay it seems
like everywhere you looked right from the very opening scene when clay is in
bed he has a clock next to him a coffee cup and a clock on the other side of

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the bed that said It said 666.
The house had windows that were 6x6, broken down into 6x6 grids.
The chairs at the pool were 6x6, or 666.
So I just, it's interesting. There's just a lot of representation of 666 in
there. So I thought that was kind of crazy. Yeah, that is.
As we all know, 666 is the omen.

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Mm-hmm. Boom, boom, boom. Sign of the devil. Sign of the beast. Dun, dun, dun.
And then even in the opening scene, so again, this is why I spent like 20 minutes
in the first five minutes of the film. This is why she's got 16 pages.
All the books on the shelf that she's standing in front of, I shouldn't say
all because I couldn't read all of them, but the ones that caught my eye I thought

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were really interesting.
There was a book on the nightstand called Blink, The Power of Thinking Without
Thinking by Malcolm Gladwell.
Well there was another book called imperfect by claire claire phrase off the cliff how to,
there was witches the conjure women ruth bader ginsburg there was an ethics
book there was another book about called the like war which is how to weaponize social media,

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and then there was another book called this new noise so there was just a lot
of books that like if you're staging a film if i don't know it's just to somebody
who stages a film just Just go to a thrift store and just pick any books?
Or why were these books so prominent?
And when you start kind of digging into the concept of some of these books,

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it was like, so the Imperfect book was about a girl who lives in an impoverished
city and she's kidnapped by basically the mega powerful corporation who runs
tests on her and try to escape. It's weird.
No, it is. It is very weird. But I'm going to ask a weirder question now.

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Who sings the song Sign of the Beast?
Pee Wee Herman. Close.
Brie, don't Google it. No, there's no Brie. I have no clue.
You're disqualified. I didn't do it. It's Iron Maiden. Oh, yeah. Such a great song.
Iron Maiden. I knew that. Yeah. Yep. All right. Sorry.

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I don't even know where to keep going with this. No, you're doing great.
Just go page by page just say it by page even the opening credits like there's
just a lot of like black again black and white imagery you know showing a lot
of anti-american stuff a lot of nature transportation,
defense financial systems health and technology it was just,

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I guess kind of telling you what the film was going to cover.
But I think one of the things that really kind of bothered me is when that ship
tanker, oil tanker, whatever,
crashed into the shore and they're driving home.
That they're just sitting there in silence.

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And then Amanda's character's like, huh, a Starbucks.
And then they all perk up and they're like, okay, and they go grab Starbucks.
Yeah, but that was kind of weird.
Like they are so numb to or oblivious to everything going around. Yeah.
As if they're watching a video game or they're watching a movie or something like that.
And they didn't just nearly get run over by an oil tanker.

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So speaking like this may be
going off topic, but not really because it's still related to the movie.
The daughter, the whole entire time, she seems like she's the only one that
was actually noticing everything.
Thing which kind of creeped me out in a way the way that
she just like just sat there and just like blurted things
out and noticed things but like no one was paying attention to her yeah her

(46:46):
parents didn't pay attention to her at all so like i'm always makes me wonder
like what it was the meaning behind that like is it's just because like people
don't pay attention to younger generation anymore and we can learn from the
younger generation like what's i think that's very much a part of it and i think
people are so involved in their own lives that like even with But the son, his girlfriend,
Taylor, his dad at one point, like when he's like, hey, dad,

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do you think Taylor's okay? And his dad's like, who?
You know, they're not paying attention to their kids and their lives.
They're just as long as they're happy, healthy and breathing.
There's that emotional disconnect because in that opening scene,
you have a dad listening to the radio.
Mom's on the phone talking to a
friend. Son's in the back seat with his headphones on listening to music.

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And the daughter's got her earbuds in watching her iPad.
Yeah. So four people in a car on a road trip, not talking to each other, not interacting.
There's a clear disconnect in how people connect with each other these days.
Yeah, no, it sounds like it shows the deconstruction of the family unit where,

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yeah, I'm part of this group,
but none of them are an active participant in the group.
They're there to do their own thing, and father, son, mother,
daughter, wife, sister are just titles, and that's it. There's no real meaning behind them. Right.

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It's just, we just shared genetic material and that's it. Or I'd rather hang
out and be with whoever else.
That was weird. Yeah, you're good. No, I think it was the sound coming in from outer space. Oh.
Is it that, that loud shrieking noise that's going to start happening to us
now? No, it was a dun, dun, dun. It was a. Dun, dun. Deep, deep bassy. Yeah, yeah.

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Okay, so when I was doing some research on this, have you guys ever watched Mr. Robot?
I have not. Okay. No. When I was doing research on this, it totally sent me
on a rabbit hole to go start watching Mr.
Robot, which also produced by the same director.
Mm-hmm. Sam Esmail. And that show, definitely a mindfuck.

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That's what the guy that played, what's his name from Queen, right?
Rami Malek. Yeah. Yeah, Rainy Malek, right? Yeah. Okay, okay.
I just wanted to make sure I was thinking of the right show.
But, so I saw somebody's, someone had a theory out there that this Leave the
World Behind film takes place in the same universe as Mr. Robot. Mm.

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And essentially the premise of Mr.
Robot is trying to take down the major corporations of the world called E-Corp,
which he calls Evil Corp.
Okay and i was like okay that's an
interesting theory i watched a few episodes but then
i noticed so when they when amanda saw danny in
the parking lot doomsday prepping

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and putting stuff in his back of his truck some of
the fema food emergency kits or
whatever had the e-corp logo on it
so and there was also trying to
remember oh so amanda was
reading a book while she was at the

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house and on the beach called beach towel by the author otto irving which was
a fictional character from the mr robot series oh so i just like hmm there might
be more easter eggs out there that i haven't connected yet do you think that
the cyber attack was made by Mr. Robot?
Well, that's one of the theories. I haven't gotten to that episode,

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but apparently there is an episode of Mr. Robot where...
On Ten Mile Island, there was a nuclear power plant that was taken out by a
hacker, which connects potentially to what Ruth's character was like,
we're the closest power plants here.
Like, don't you remember what happened in Jersey a few months back or a few
years back when the power plant was hacked by hackers? Oh, that's fun.

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Yeah. That is. That's a lot of fun. That's very interesting.
Another thing to point out that this
movie obviously was made in 2020 right you
said 2020 uh no the book the book was
2020 the movie is 2023 2023 yeah so
i don't know when baseball schedules come out but

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at one point during the film clay was
watching the washington nationals versus the
atlanta braves and they're actually
playing like based on
the timeline of the story we learned that
there was that this attack happened on september 17th into the 18th so across

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that midnight hour well within that time frame in real life the washington nationals
are are playing the Atlanta Braves on September 10th and 11th,
which would be in alignment with the timeline of this film.
Yeah, they come out, I want to say, at least a year before.

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So you would assume they made this movie 2022 and it came out 2023,
depending on how long it took them. They may have had knowledge on it. I'm not 100% certain.
But either way, if they didn't, really, really weird.
But i think they did okay potentially
but i could be wrong yeah so i want

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to go back to the oil tanker so the oil
tanker was named the white lion and i don't
know if you guys know this but the white
lion was an english privateer ship that was
the first ship to bring african slaves to
the colonies in 1619 and it it

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landed in point comfort virginia which
was also interesting so when they were driving to their
vacation home they had the option of well the highway roads one of them said
point comfort and the other one was oh fort mose road and so there was also

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a little bit of history about Fort Mose Road as well.
So Fort, or sorry, Fort Mose was a,
Constructed in 1738, and it was the first free black community close to present-day St.
Augustine, Florida, and actually played a critical role in the Underground Railroad

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and the reverse Underground Railroad for slaves who wanted to escape to the safety of Florida.
So I thought the imagery or the symbolism was interesting that they're driving
down the highway and knowing that there's like these racial tones and undertones in this film,
they could have taken one direction and gone to Fort Mose or they can go to

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Point Comfort and they took the comfortable route.
They took going to where their family is in Point Comfort.
That's interesting. time when clay was in the car and
trying to find signal and losing the gps and all of that the
only radio station that came in for a brief moment was
that 1619 which again was the year that the slave slave shift gotcha huh that's

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fun i love easter eggs yeah do you like coloring them no you don't like coloring
easter eggs i like dying i'm not coloring because you don't color or you tip it into dye.
It's synonymous. I don't know. People like use Sharpies and like markers and
paint them and stuff these days.
I used to take like the white crayon and you draw something on it and then you

(54:36):
put it in the dye and you can see it what you wrote.
Yeah, that's called wax. And it's kind of funny because I don't know what I
wrote because you forget where you left off.
It's wax, right? Yeah. Yeah. Crayons are wax. Well, no, I'm saying like that, clear wax, right?
I could be wrong. I'm asking. I'm genuinely asking. It could be that or it could

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just be a white crayon. Like, I know people just use regular white crayons. Oh, okay.
That's what I used to use. If they don't have the clear wax,
I use white crayons. Same thing.
You know what I want to do now is I want to take one of those and color the
entire egg there and see if it gets dyed at all. Ooh, you should try that.
Then you can see where you missed. Oh, I miss a lot. I'm always outside the lines. So...

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What do you think this movie was trying to tell us or explain to us?
Or is there even, or was it just, is it just something that was fictionally
created for our amusement and to get us thinking in general?
Or is there a foreboding warning coming from this movie?
I think initially when I first saw it, I went down the hyper conspiracy,

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especially knowing that the Obamas helped produce it.
I mean, Former president, you obviously had access to some pretty privy information, right?
And the fact that there were so many details, it seemed like it was time's running out.

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September 17th and 18th is the day that it's going to happen,
which is also the same day that an eclipse is going to happen,
which is also depicted in the movie.
There's an eclipse, but there's real life eclipse happening on that date.
So could those be related? you know
there's FEMA's been practicing what happens
when we have blackouts and stuff like that just like before COVID happened

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they were running practice on what happens if
we have a pandemic so like went down the super this is
a warning type of route but you know kind of
digging into this while I still think it's a warning I think
it's also wake up because we're so connected to our devices we're so not interacting
with each other we still have social issues going on in this world that if let's

(56:49):
just say china russia and iran all one or which one we which one are we.
That we don't like well i thought
we got along with one iran or iraq i was getting mixed up we
invaded iraq okay well i don't know whatever all
of the people all of the people america pissed off in the
past you know north korea and all of that if they all teamed up

(57:10):
together right and said let's fuck america right
it wouldn't be that hard because we are so
we nobody looks up anymore we're always looking down at our phone we're not
looking up at this guy we're not even we're people are crossing the street not
even like looking right and left because they're on their phones you know that
sort of thing like it wouldn't take much to take us out yeah so wake up people

(57:32):
wake up yeah Yeah. Wake up, wake up.
Wake me up before you go, go. No? Okay. No.
Yeah, so, yes, go ahead. No, I want to know what your thoughts are,
but there are some other big things I want to talk about. Yeah,
no, I'm not ending the episode.

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That question just popped in my head and I wanted to ask it before I forgot
it. He was sparking conversation.
I definitely don't think it's a, all right, guys, this is what's going to happen. Here's the plan.
Right, because it would be silly, you know.
But the Obamas have a bunker in Hawaii. Yeah, but they're not the only ones, right?

(58:15):
I mean, there's... Right. Yeah. So why do they have them if they don't know something?
Yeah, I'm sure it's, what do you want to call it? It's precautionary.
You know, I mean, if I have unlimited money, I'm going to take every precaution I can as well.
It doesn't mean that I know something will be coming.

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I just know there is a potential of something coming. So, again, that could be wrong.
That's just my thoughts.
But yeah, I think this movie more represented a wake-up call that we all need
to start getting along and start realizing that, especially politically,

(59:02):
that our thoughts are not beliefs.
They are opinions and they should be treated with opinions and when given evidence
to the contrary maybe we should open
our minds up and evaluate something happened at work the other day and.
This lady goes i was talking to one gentleman and this lady goes the thing of

(59:29):
politics and that came up and she goes she looks at the gentleman i was talking
to and goes oh is he on our side,
or is he on the other side and i turn to her and i go what side i go what side
do you think i'm on i go no well i mean you know it's republican democrat right
and i know but i mean right,
that's what that's what i addressed i go what side are you talking about i go we're all americans,

(59:52):
and i think that's the one thing that gets lost is that we are all americans
just because we have a different opinion as to how things should be run doesn't
make one side evil and one side.
Better and vice versa so yeah i think this movie was a big wake-up call to we

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need to start working together we are all americans we are all one big melting
pot of a country and there's there's so
many different opinions that need to be objectively reviewed,
looked at and taken into account with respect and grace.

(01:00:33):
So we can all move forward as a unit and not crumble as a.
People in different fact you know different factions yeah so
yeah so anyway i'm off my little
thing well do you have something to
say yes okay my thoughts

(01:00:55):
on this whole thing is has to
go back with wilderness so with the technology i just
think it's trying to tell us that we technology is
ruling our everyday lives we rely too much on it
that we need to to take a break from
it and realize that like we can't rely
on that one little thing is because it breaks

(01:01:15):
it can be hacked it can ruin everything and
yeah that's it but i
also have a question it has nothing to do with this thought okay so
at the end of the movie rose she
finds the bunker why is it that bunker has
tech has everything working has the tvs working
she's able to watch your show why is it it's turning

(01:01:38):
on the generator but and but not
the generator they're because their house had electricity it's
just they couldn't there's no wi-fi there's no right she didn't have wi-fi or
anything either she put in a dvd of but the tv was working there was a news
broadcast that came on a tv i missed that part then yeah it said like there's

(01:01:59):
a it could It could have just been.
You said it when you were going through your thing. So when she went into the
basement, she had to turn a dial, which essentially turned on the generator
and the power that lit up the whole basement.
But if you noticed the upstairs, it was all dark.
She was eating at the kitchen table in the dark.

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She essentially engaged the power to the basement. And that's when the TV monitors
and everything all lit up. Yeah, and there was like a message and it was like
a news thing saying that there's radiation levels in the cities and all that
stuff. So there was actually something broadcasting on there.
Do you think that maybe they had like an antenna?
And since the antennas doesn't work off of satellites and cable does,

(01:02:44):
maybe it was receiving it from
an antenna instead of... So it was not digital. It was an analog signal.
Yeah. Because that's the one thing I always wondered is like,
why was she able to see that and everything else?
Like when they tried to turn on her TV at the house, like it was just white noise.
That might be why is that the GH's house was all digital and the bunker had

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an analog system as well.
Right. Like you go to. You get like rabbit ears. Remember back in the day,
the rabbit ears. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The girl even like made a joke about the rabbit ears.
How are rabbit ears going to help me get the TV back on? Right. I remember that. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah. So that might be the answer to that.
Yeah. Yeah. So, Lynette, I know you have much more to dive into,

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so please go right ahead.
So the first night when they had the blue screen and saying there's,
this is not a drill or whatever it says. This is not a test. This is not a test. Yeah.
After the family had gone to sleep, there was a flicker of a CNN
broadcast of the United united states of hot spots of where
the most disruption had occurred

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and obviously you can see over major metros where
dark red or whatever but if you looked a
little closer that picture of the country had a qr code on the map that qr code
can be scanned by your phone right now and it's going to take you a it links
you through the sml corp cyber attack which redirects you to,

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Mercer County, which is a real...
Abandoned Amusement Park in West Virginia. Oh, wow. I'm doing that right now. That's interesting.
So. Lake Shawnee Abandoned Amusement Park.
Yeah. So they do tours there. It's still a functioning. It's not functioning,

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but they still do tours there, I guess.
The history of that park was that it used to be owned by Shawnee Native American tribe up until 1783.
Three then the there was an an entrepreneur conley sindow snido something like that,

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wanted to put in this this amusement park and essentially he sold his property
to another family called the clay family which i thought was interesting very
interesting clay was the main one of the main characters so the clay family
owned this park mitchell clay until it was kind of
forced to shut down because two children were killed there.

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There were accidents on the swing and there was a drowning in the water.
So an investor came in 20 years later after this park had closed down.
He tried to dig up the ground and found there was a whole bunch of bones under
there as part of the Native Americans tribe as a burial ground.
So whether the ground is cursed, what else is going on under there but even

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more importantly why the hell is this qr code in this movie what are they trying
to say here that this is where my brain switches of okay maybe it's not just
the details to set the scene why are you why are you sending people or showing people this,
yeah that's that's really really yeah really weird i agree.

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I guess the only other thing, oh, I shouldn't say the only other thing I could
go into details here and there, but I want to dry, dry, drive your brains nuts.
But I did think another thing that was interesting is when GH went to his neighbor's
house, the Huxleys felt like that was a nod to, how do you pronounce his name?
Aldous, Aldous Huxley, who wrote a brave new world. Oh yeah.
Which obviously is about a futuristic dystopian type of world.

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So again, a little Easter egg there.
Yeah. Yeah, that is a little cute little Easter egg. Yeah.
I don't know. Where else do you want me to go with this? I mean,
it's up to you. This is your ship. You're steering it right into the beach.
I feel like I'm just like saying things. I'm not asking you questions.
No, you don't have to. I'm just like, let me tell you this. Yeah, no, please.

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Let me tell you that. Yeah, no, tell us this because this is all very intriguing.
Like, I highly doubt any of us will ever go that deep and hard into this movie.
So you can go as deep and hard especially going
to see a little tiny qr code yeah on
the screen like that yeah no that's that was crazy but just like another like

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other couple things so when rose was at the thorns house that the bunker house
the outside of the bunker said The Camadeus,
Camadeus, C-O-M-M-O-D-U-S.
I looked it up and Camadeus was a Roman empire. Okay. Emperor. Emperor. Emperor.

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He was mostly known for his love of gladiatorial arenas, and he was also known
as a cruel and erotic and treacherous ruler.
A cruel erotic or erotic? Erotic. Okay. I probably said erotic.
No, you did. And I was, I was, I'm like, I was game.
Let's. Strengths like topic change? Yeah. Yeah. Commodus, you and me,

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baby. We're going to go hit the, hit the nightlife in Rome. Yeah.
All right. So he was a cruel prick. Yeah.
All right. So why was that there? Well, probably because maybe in case of the
world turning into a cruel prick, they had a place to go. I don't know. I don't know.

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Or maybe give an insight to the people that own the place, what they were like.
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.
But I also wondered, why weren't they there? Where did they go?
Well, if that's their summer home, they could have been in the city.
But. You know. But wait, I thought there was something that made it think like they were there.

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I don't think so. I don't know. Or maybe they were out of town and got caught
up with all the bullshit.
The roads were clogged and they couldn't get away. Right. Plane crashed. Yeah.
Yeah. I do feel, though,
that for that little town that was kind of bustling in the beginning,
all of a sudden was just completely empty and no one was around like if it's

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a cyber attack like I don't think people would just disappear as well I was
kind of curious and confused as to where all the people were at,
that did seem odd too,
I would think there'd be more people wandering around like that Hispanic lady
in the fields that Clay abandoned.

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Yeah. Well, how big is Long Island? Do they really have farms and fields out
there like Clay ran into? It's long.
I wouldn't have to restrict her from saying anything anymore. Is it even an island?
I'm just joking. It is an island. Yes, it is. That's why they call it Long Island. And it's probably long.

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Is there only one bridge to get back to the mainland? Like, is that like the
film sort of depicts one way in and out? Yeah, probably.
There's probably multiple ways by sea. Oh, yeah. But bridge road. Yeah. Driving wise.
Driving wise. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure, I think there's ferries that you could
drive your car on. Ferries? My mom hates ferries.

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And by ferries, the mythical creature, right? Not the...
Yeah yeah okay i enjoy both
kinds of fairies we know that yeah all right
good we learned that recently recently recently how long have i known you you've
learned a long time i've known it since i know frank yeah let me see all right

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any other tidbits or easter eggs on uh leave the world behind one thing that
i thought was a little bit outside of the film but i thought it was
interesting was Julia Roberts dated Matthew Perry.
Okay. And there was a constant reference to the show Friends on that film.

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It's also kind of weird that if Rose was watching the show, she would see her mom on the show.
In the very beginning. In the very beginning. But after this film came out,
she was also elusive when people were asking her about that.
Because the film came out prior, after his, no. Yeah, it came out after his death.

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Okay. So Matthew Perry died on October 28th, and the film was released December 8th.
And she, I don't know, it seems weird that, sure, celebrities only date for
a few months, and she's been married to her husband for 20 some odd years.
Yeah. But, weird? No.
I don't think so. So, I mean, what's-her-face and Brad Pitt dated and were married?

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Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, they were married.
Yeah, but like, I don't know, you make a film and you reference the time of
like, I guess everybody in celebrity world all dates each other.
It's pretty cesspool-y.
Yeah, and being from New York and the whole show takes place in New York.
It was such a popular show.

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You know, the mom could have shared the show with her daughter and saying, oh, you'll love this.
No, but I just mean in real life. Julia Roberts was weird and elusive about...
Matthew Perry. Well, I mean, maybe she just didn't want to talk about it.
I mean, she has that right.
Everyone has the right to say what they don't want to say and say,
don't, you meant what I knew. I, I, yeah.

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You meant what I knew. You didn't say what you don't want to say.
I heard what you thought. Yeah, thank you. You're welcome.
Yeah, I mean, you know, she could have just, you know, maybe she was just fighting
her own grief and just didn't want to, you know, who knows?
Who knows? I mean, I think we, sometimes we forget that celebrities are just
people as well with the same thoughts and griefs and feelings.

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And sometimes it's hard to process. So, I don't know.
Maybe. Maybe they're all evil. Maybe they are all reptilians.
They probably are. They don't have tear ducts. Right. You know?
I mean, if they are reptilians, I'd like to get my hands on them and hold them.
You're weird. If you're a reptilian, please contact Frank at fringebnlimits.com.

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Please. He would like to talk to you. I would like to hold you.
And do a lot of nasty things.
That was Brianna who said that I didn't. But you're thinking it.
I'm thinking a lot of things. I think that doesn't really count.
Gross. Gross. Gross. Gross.
So i know you said you didn't really get the ending the part and it's like why,

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this we end on the series for watching
the series for nearly friends like how why end like that
that's why i want to know i think at least my interpretation of it is that a
few times throughout the film the daughter rose was like i just need to feel
good right now i just i just i need to feel And I'm so invested in these people.

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And I love these people, even though they're imaginary.
They even say like the show is like nostalgia for a time that never really was.
And I think it kind of illustrates how people live on a screen.
They live their life vicariously through the folks on TV or in movies.

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And they're not really living their own life.
Mm-hmm.
Think the world is potentially falling around
around her and maybe there's a little bit of naivety and innocence about

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that from her but it really shows the
disconnect yeah that's
my interpretation of the ending there no i agree i mean we hold so
much stock in what's on television and
and the lives that are on television even through what
you'll call it like the real house just reality

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reality tv you know just because
it's called reality tv it's still the zero
part of reality and but people live and die i mean you know look at the twilight
movies team jacob and team vampire i forget edward you know i mean oh yeah so

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speaking of that let's let's talk about.
That team edward and team jacob right these were
teenage boys at the time that adult women
were swimming over and and
going oh my god can you imagine if that was reversed if they were teen girls
well hypothetically edward was like 100 years old hypothetically he was a teenage

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boy that's 100 years old because he was a vampire he was a teenage boy what about jacob jacob was a
teenage boy they were both teenagers in real life yeah in real
life yeah in real life too it's not like but in the movie edward
was like hunter yeah it's not like it was like beverly hills
90210 when they're like 25 year old adults playing a 17
year old you know child no these are children playing children and adult women

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were oh because we haven't had a good boy band in a long time is that what it
is there's probably well i mean and sync was i know but they were already The
band was already broken up. What about New Direction?
One Direction? I don't know. I don't know boy bands, as you can tell.
I saw the poster in your room. Oh, all of them. K-pop, right? Is that one of them?

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A genre bts oh bts something like
that yeah bts bts that feels like a naughty acronym b-e-k yeah yeah b-e-k yeah
black eyed kids i always i always think i always think of btk,

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maybe that's what i was thinking of originally and i just for some reason i
thought boy band and I don't know why. Do you know who BTK was?
Yeah, I do. Lynette? That was a killer, wasn't it? Yeah.
Buying, torture, kill. That's what BTK stood for.
Is that a real life one or a TV show one? That's a real life one.
Oh, add them to the list. Yeah, put them on the list.

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So, all right. That was an intriguing episode.
I liked it. So go watch it again. Watch all the things change. Yeah, I'm going to now.
And if you guys have any insights on the movie, go ahead and send us an email.
Let us know your thoughts and your conspiracy theories out there. Yeah.
Well, we can wrap this one up and call it a night.

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Thank you, everyone. We love you. I'm Frank. I'm Brie. This is Lynette.
And you've been listening to Fringe Beyond.
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