November 19, 2025 • 24 mins
Jerry & Amanda discuss this crazy, but true, story from Australia. Some people have no patience!
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hey guys, and welcome to episode two of Wickedly Weird
with Jerry and Amanda. Amanda, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm okay. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm good? So are you excited to be doing episode two?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I know, right? Episode two? Technically it's like episode ninety though,
right if we were going off a like warning you'll
be offended.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think we I think we had a total of
seventy two episodes up there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh so episode two, baby.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, So Amanda, we're going to Australia. As a
matter of fact, if we're gonna get a little more specific,
it's Australia's Alpine National Park all the way back in
two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh god, I was already graduated from high school and like,
what were you? What were you doing two thousand and eight?
Who were you seeing in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know what? How long ago was that? That was
two thousand and eight, twenty and eighteen, you know, I
think I think I was already with Tracy. Yeah, that's
about about a year or so after I got got
with Tracy. So that's back when the SEC and everything
was still you know, happening.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Erase, erase, race, Those of you that don't know. I
hit my head and that's how I erase things, the
reset button, the backspace delite.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
All right, so we're going to talk about a couple here,
seventeen year old Carolyn Watson. Now she had a fiance
that was slightly older than her, twenty two year old
Julian Buckwald.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
HM.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
At this point, they have gone missing. They went on
a picnic at a waterfall on Julian's parents' property. They
had a lot of property.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's like their property had a waterfall.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A waterfall, Yeah, I mean, I guess they had like
a creeks and everything else there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I bet you they also had Have you ever seen
those flowers that eat people? No, No, they don't eat people.
They have like poison in the middle and it can
kill you in the matter of seconds. It's like one
of the deadliest deadliest plants on the face of the planet.
In fact, I think it's in the museum and it's
like an upside down lady plant. Have you seen it?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think you're thinking of that TV show, that movie
what was it?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The car?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, it's a real plan. I'm going to send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I know there are some deadly plants out there. But
that's not what this was.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's I'm glad that five seconds into the story you've
already come to a conclusion they were killed by deadly plants.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But no, we're an alligator or crocodile.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's Australia, so that all that would have I don't know.
So anyway, they go out, they go out to this waterfall,
and when they failed to return, there was a four
day search of this huge property. Like I said, and
we're talking several officers, people who are volunteers, and helicopter.
(03:49):
So they were searching by land and by air. There
was no sign of the couple or their car.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So they just disappeared. I bet you UFO took them
and did butt stuff with them, don't.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think that's exactly what happened, since I know what happened,
But I can tell you I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Don't know this one. I don't even know this one.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, this couple were extremely religious. They attended more well
apolistic church and they were gonna get married. All Carolyn
finished school at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But she's seventeen. Why are you getting married at seventeen?
Your life is still going.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, that's not for us to debate. I'm just
telling you the facts.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but like you're seventeen, I get that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And a lot of times when you're seventeen, you're definitely
not thinking, Like, you know, thirty eight year old Amanda is.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Now thirty eight, am Amanda whatever my name is, is
still like, what is happening? I'm not not thirty eight?
Oh I drooled on that one. I'm not thirty eight.
First of all, I'm thirty five, So fuck you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All right, So the couple had no access to money,
they didn't pack any clothes, so it was unlikely that
they just ran off. Now, as it turns out, the
two were kidnapped and driven six hours away to Alpine
National Park by a Satanic cult.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Isn't that nutty? Because they were not Satanic cult people.
They were blessing in doing Jesus right right.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Wow, Now this couple was celibate for both legal and religious. Yeah,
she's seventeen. Julian's intention was to propose to Carolyn for
the second time out at that picnic, and instead they
end up in the back of a strange van and
(05:54):
being thrown out six hours later.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Can you imagine, honey, will you marry me. This is
a gag. That's not funny, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So at the time they were thrown out of the van,
both had had their clothes cut off with a knife
and they were just let out in this grassy field
with their hands tied. Julian eventually managed to get up,
walk over to Carolyn and untie her hands. Now both
were able to get up and wander around this field.
(06:29):
It seems odd, but they stumble across a bag. Inside
the bag was a sleeping bag, a toothbrush, a coconut,
a knife, a shovel, and a jar of peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What is this like? Like, what is that guy that
that has like he pays people pay hammer and people
do whatever. The grills no, no, and he like torches
people like they pay like I don't know if they
or they donate dog food.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Mcamie Manner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, that guy that That's what this sounds like,
except way more fucked up in like a weird way.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know. I had him on the show on Macamei Manner. Yeah,
I'm just saying he was a fast, fascinating individual.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm sure he was. He's bananas.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Go ahead, Okay, now there's all this stuff into the bank. Now,
first of all, I got questions. Do I a toothbrush,
a coconut, a knife, a shovel, and a jar of
peanut butter? No bread? No? I mean, I guess you
used the shovel.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
To space your hands. Get in there.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Coconut, coconut and peanut butter. That's I don't know, It's
like a weird dessert. They were scared to death that
the kidnappers were going to come back and track them down,
so they jump into a freezing river to make a getaway.
They moved around barefoot and naked for a week around
the field to avoid being caught. Again, this sounds a
(08:11):
lot like naked and afraid.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, it just sounds really
it just doesn't sound real sounds.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
At nighttime it was freezing, they would huddle together to
stay warm inside of the sleep together that they were
inside the sleeping bag. Even in the pouring rain. They
were still out in the bout. They had no shelter.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why wouldn't you make sulag was the.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Only shelter that they had. Yeah, naked and afraid they
would have made some shelter.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, well, she's seventeen, So.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean, one night, Julian suggests that they get married
under the quote unquote eyes of God before they died,
wing their celibacy, but Carolyn refused. In fact, she was
(09:08):
pretty offended by it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And yeah, imagine, could you imagine if this was just
one big like haha to get her to sleep with them,
that's fucked up. But people do strange things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
People do do strange things. So she was determined that
they were going to make it through this, and she
was a little irritated that he didn't have the same attitude. So,
like I said, she was offended by the whole thing. Well,
eventually the couple found another bag. In this bag, it
contained their cut off clothes. Why would I do that?
(09:49):
I would never yank your chain. So they're able to
make it now to a road where they were picked
up by a farmer. The farmer took the young couple
back to his house. He immediately called the police, and
he filed a report. The police did not find a
satanic cult. Unfortunately, interestingly enough, they immediately came and arrested Julian.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The boyfriend did I call it?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Am? I right pretty close? After being pressed by police Julian. Actually,
he actually confessed to staging the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What I say.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
The police said that Julian's initial explanation was very amateurist
to the extreme, which is why they knew something was up,
in particular the failure to have a plausible reason for
anyone wanting to kidnap the couple, especially from his parents'
private property. This ultimately led to the unraveling of his
(10:57):
ridiculous story. Now, Julian had one to pressure his fiance
into marrying him so they could have sex.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Weirdo.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He was very impatient and he didn't want to wait
for her to finish school, so he decided to kidnap
her instead of, you know, laying a guilt trip on
her like most guys would do.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well. That is way worse, my god.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean, he literally did everything except the just a
tip move. That's what I would have tried. Julian was
tried and found guilty in kidnapping and torturing the victim
for six days. His grand prize eight years of prison free. Now, yeah,
(11:47):
I'm sure he will get all the sex he can possibly.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Handle tormenting somebody, And of.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Course, Caroline said that she would have married him as
soon as they graduated.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
If he had just been patient, that's really. She didn't see.
She didn't she didn't think. She didn't think to herself,
this is just really I would have questioned him. I
would have said she might.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She might have been very naive. We don't know, now, Amanda,
you guessed that part of the story.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I did, because I did. But more.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
End of the story, get out of town. It gets
more weird, I think. So wait a minute, what's it
gain wicked weird? It's and by the way, the name
of the show is wicked lye weird. There is a
lee at the end. All right, So the day before
he was actually supposed to be sentenced, This was on
(12:44):
September sixteenth. Buck Waald, who is a light skinned German.
His family actually moved to Australia.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
When he was a teen. So he's from Germany.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Wait, yes, buck Wall, that's his real name. Are you
is this real?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's his last name, buck Wall.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It sounds like a cartoon. It's not sounds like a cartoon,
it does. Okay, all right, let's go Buckwall. What did
he do?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Buckwold, a light skinned German, disguised himself as an Indian.
He dyed his hair black, he put on a fake
tan stop and then he got a fake Indian passport
and we're talking India.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
How do you get one? How do you even thinke that.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He gets a German He gets a fake Indian passport
and he slipped through customs and immigration check out.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh that's really bad before.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Taking a flight from a Singapore Airline from Sydney to
Chennai in India. Yeah. Fifteen hours later he touches down
in India where Buckwald was detained by Chennai airport officials
(14:00):
because they were a little suspicious of his passport and
knew that he looked a little quote unquote off.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You don't say it was he like ten feet tall?
And come on, I mean the blue wives didn't give
it away. Come on.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So he was sent back to Singapore where he was
promptly arrested. Now Victoria Police in Australia, they wanted to
know how Buckwall, who didn't speak a word of Hindi,
oh my god, manage to get a passport with a
fake photo and to dupe Australian customs and immigration officers.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You know how scary that is? How scary is that
they could even recognize that something was a little weird hit.
They couldn't say, oh, something doesn't look right.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's probably people just don't care about being another job.
They're just like whatever, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh my god. That is they're kind.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Of like the cat the people who run the self
checkouts at Walmart. Oh, there's people all around them snagging
free stuff. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Listen. But I mean that that's a significant that's that's
a big difference. But how do you not how do
you know what? You know what? I'm not even gonna
because people I don't know, I would question everything. That
whole story is a question.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I've seen prisoners that have escaped from jail like three times.
It's like, how do you do it once? Let alone
three times?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And but like how have they not caught on that?
You're a genius apparently, like you got to put them
in five different cells and put them in concrete. Like
and also, I told you it was a setup. I
told you he just wanted to get one out. He
didn't care about anything else. And that's also gross.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's that's very extreme though, Like that that's very it's
very extreme to literally go out naked in freezing water
and in the woods for six days.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He he it was it was do or die for him,
like he was gonna do her or he was gonna die,
and they were both going to die. Like there was
no infans butt or coconuts for that matter. Like, and
who agreed to that? Who agrees to something like that?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I've never heard about the people who dropped them off,
if they got in any trouble or not.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He probably wasn't gonna snitch. Maybe he didn't even know them.
Maybe he was just like a good he did, good day, mate,
And you helped me because I'm in search of the
I'm in search of the pusse. That's terrible that he
was a straight Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
All I can tell you is I've been horny before
in my life, really horny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I've never done like that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Not horny to the extent that I'm willing to be
out in weather for six days, running around barefoot in
the woods and in freezing weather just to try to
get it once. I mean, I don't know what this
girl look like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
She's all strange. It's probably smoking. Most girls from down
there down into very very good looking.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'm just saying, did you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Hear the theory about that Australia isn't real. Did you
hear that whole thing?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, God, yeah, they're real. They're just you know, it's different.
I I'm sorry, but I would have got there. That's
crazy to me, a sitianic cult. I'm never getting over
this story. I'm going to think about it now for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's actually a very cool story when you think about it,
and you know, I've got one that I almost did
and I saved it for Hillbilly's war stories. But it's
it might be even a crazier story than that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like wait, can you, like low key tell me what
the story is.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's probably a story that you know of, the story
about Blair Adams. It's crazy. It's a crazy story. Yeah,
it's It's like the kid was in Canada. He was
a kid. He was thirty one years old, but he
was in Canada. He kept trying to get across the
border to the United States and he kept getting kicked back.
(18:21):
But he just took all of his money out of
the bank, which was literally thousands of dollars put in
the backpack, was going to fly to Germany and then
changed his mind and instead bought a got across to
the US to Seattle, bought a plane ticket, a uh
ticket into what you call it Washington, d C. And
then he drove basically five hundred miles to Knoxville, Tennessee.
(18:44):
Said somebody was chasing him and he ended up dead.
But there was all kinds of stuff that happened in between.
Oh my god, it's still an unsolved case.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But how died.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, he didn't know anybody in Knoxville. Nobody knows why
he was going there.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He probably place, he probably did, he probably did something
with it stupid and just someone had enough said goodbye.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We had to follow him all over the place and
not know where the hell he was going. They wanted
it pretty bad well, you know, and they didn't even robbing.
When he was found. There was like thousand dollars of
money laying all around.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh my god, he was just that annoying. They didn't
care about anything. He was just that fucking annoying. Oh
my god, that's horrible, Just like goodbye, I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, let's end on this. I found some incredibly
creepy things that kids have said. I thought we'd do
a couple of these things.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I got one one.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We might do a couple of them to end. Uh, Okay,
you do one and I'll do one, and we'll end
every show.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a personal story, okay, and it's horrible. So we
have a I have a two story house or whatever,
and my daughter is in across the way from me,
and she's like, she comes in to my bedroom. Nat
doesn't just like open the door. She like kick, makes
(20:05):
that bitch down and she's like mama, and I'm like,
Jesus ChRI. I'm like, what's going on. She goes the
man in the trees won't let me sleep. He's knocking
at my window. And I was like, girl, I said
what she said? Yep? I said no, I said, just
come into my bed. She's like I need lion, lions
(20:26):
or stuffed animal. And I was like, fuck lying man.
I'm like all right. So I go in there and
the door was already open, and she came out of it.
I flicked the light on and I closed my eyes
and I ripped back the curtain and there was nobody there.
And I was so wigged out. I thought I heard
tapping on the window and that was it for the
rest of the evening.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
For me.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It was like two o'clock in the morning and that
was it. I'm like the man in the trees, like
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I am
in the Bridgewater Triangle stranger things. And then my son
used to be in that room and he hated sleeping
in there, and I'm like, okay. He was another one.
He was like, oh, Mom, he came into my room.
(21:08):
He's like, Mom, this girl crawled out of my closet
and into the hallway and I was like, oh, that's
a no. I'm like where she always like, I don't know,
probably in your room. And I was like, excellent, love
that for me. So this particular room though, like even
when the kids aren't home, like you can like you'll
(21:28):
hear walking around and stuff, and so I just often
wonder if it's just a ghost or a goblin or
a ghoul just taking up residence somewhere and they occasionally
see them, you know what I mean. Right, So that's
I'm like great, And like, granted, kids have imaginations, so
you kind of have to figure out what is what,
(21:49):
but those are that stuff gets me, especially when I'm
home by myself. I hate that I have a husky
he'll come upstairs in my bedroom. I'm like, you're coming
up here with me, buddy, m M.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So here's one for you. The day my grandmother went
into a coma, my youngest sister, who was four at
the time and completely unaware that Grandma was in the hospital,
she got home from school and said Grandma came to
school with her and sat on a desk near the window.
For the next two weeks, every day my grandmother would
come visit for varian amounts of times, and she would
(22:26):
always walk out the door. One Wednesday, my sister came
home from school upset and told my mother that Grandma
had stood up and waved and then disappeared completely. My
sister knew that she wasn't coming back. A few hours later,
my mother got the call that my grandmother had in
fact passed away.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, that's a.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, yeah, crazy I We'll do some of those every
every week. That'd be a good way to end the show.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, Like, man, you have never had any creepy instances?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Not.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What kids saying something weird.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Like You've never had Like you yourself haven't even had
like a weird like Ooh, like what was that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh? I have stuff like that all time, but just
not with kids. Creepy stuff. And that's what the subject was.
If I will remind you to stay on subject.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, I was just thinking. I was just thinking out loud,
my guy.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Next well, next time we have show and tell and
it's about you know, I creepy stuff that happened to us.
I will probably have a story.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, how come you just can't give us a story
right now? I don't see what the big deal.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Is because the show's over. You always say people want more, Amanda.
Now people are worry about this for the next week.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well they should because there is some joozies because I
got myself a spirit board. No, I got myself a
spirit board. We'll talk about that nice.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's the way we'll start off next week.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Maybe, I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thank you so much for listening, and we hope you
enjoy it and spread the word. We need people to
know that this podcast is out.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There and it's still around. It's just got a different name,
but we're here. We're here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's a completely different podcast, Amanda. This is nothing like
we used to do.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, but it's still us.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
See some truth in that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Bye bye,
Hey guys, and welcome to episode two of Wickedly Weird
with Jerry and Amanda. Amanda, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm okay. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm good? So are you excited to be doing episode two?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I know, right? Episode two? Technically it's like episode ninety though,
right if we were going off a like warning you'll
be offended.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think we I think we had a total of
seventy two episodes up there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh so episode two, baby.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, So Amanda, we're going to Australia. As a
matter of fact, if we're gonna get a little more specific,
it's Australia's Alpine National Park all the way back in
two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh god, I was already graduated from high school and like,
what were you? What were you doing two thousand and eight?
Who were you seeing in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know what? How long ago was that? That was
two thousand and eight, twenty and eighteen, you know, I
think I think I was already with Tracy. Yeah, that's
about about a year or so after I got got
with Tracy. So that's back when the SEC and everything
was still you know, happening.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Erase, erase, race, Those of you that don't know. I
hit my head and that's how I erase things, the
reset button, the backspace delite.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
All right, so we're going to talk about a couple here,
seventeen year old Carolyn Watson. Now she had a fiance
that was slightly older than her, twenty two year old
Julian Buckwald.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
HM.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
At this point, they have gone missing. They went on
a picnic at a waterfall on Julian's parents' property. They
had a lot of property.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's like their property had a waterfall.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A waterfall, Yeah, I mean, I guess they had like
a creeks and everything else there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I bet you they also had Have you ever seen
those flowers that eat people? No, No, they don't eat people.
They have like poison in the middle and it can
kill you in the matter of seconds. It's like one
of the deadliest deadliest plants on the face of the planet.
In fact, I think it's in the museum and it's
like an upside down lady plant. Have you seen it?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think you're thinking of that TV show, that movie
what was it?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The car?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, it's a real plan. I'm going to send it
to you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I know there are some deadly plants out there. But
that's not what this was.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's I'm glad that five seconds into the story you've
already come to a conclusion they were killed by deadly plants.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But no, we're an alligator or crocodile.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's Australia, so that all that would have I don't know.
So anyway, they go out, they go out to this waterfall,
and when they failed to return, there was a four
day search of this huge property. Like I said, and
we're talking several officers, people who are volunteers, and helicopter.
(03:49):
So they were searching by land and by air. There
was no sign of the couple or their car.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So they just disappeared. I bet you UFO took them
and did butt stuff with them, don't.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think that's exactly what happened, since I know what happened,
But I can tell you I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Don't know this one. I don't even know this one.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, this couple were extremely religious. They attended more well
apolistic church and they were gonna get married. All Carolyn
finished school at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But she's seventeen. Why are you getting married at seventeen?
Your life is still going.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, that's not for us to debate. I'm just
telling you the facts.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, but like you're seventeen, I get that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And a lot of times when you're seventeen, you're definitely
not thinking, Like, you know, thirty eight year old Amanda is.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Now thirty eight, am Amanda whatever my name is, is
still like, what is happening? I'm not not thirty eight?
Oh I drooled on that one. I'm not thirty eight.
First of all, I'm thirty five, So fuck you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
All right, So the couple had no access to money,
they didn't pack any clothes, so it was unlikely that
they just ran off. Now, as it turns out, the
two were kidnapped and driven six hours away to Alpine
National Park by a Satanic cult.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Isn't that nutty? Because they were not Satanic cult people.
They were blessing in doing Jesus right right.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Wow, Now this couple was celibate for both legal and religious. Yeah,
she's seventeen. Julian's intention was to propose to Carolyn for
the second time out at that picnic, and instead they
end up in the back of a strange van and
(05:54):
being thrown out six hours later.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Can you imagine, honey, will you marry me. This is
a gag. That's not funny, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So at the time they were thrown out of the van,
both had had their clothes cut off with a knife
and they were just let out in this grassy field
with their hands tied. Julian eventually managed to get up,
walk over to Carolyn and untie her hands. Now both
were able to get up and wander around this field.
(06:29):
It seems odd, but they stumble across a bag. Inside
the bag was a sleeping bag, a toothbrush, a coconut,
a knife, a shovel, and a jar of peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What is this like? Like, what is that guy that
that has like he pays people pay hammer and people
do whatever. The grills no, no, and he like torches
people like they pay like I don't know if they
or they donate dog food.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Mcamie Manner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, that guy that That's what this sounds like,
except way more fucked up in like a weird way.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You know. I had him on the show on Macamei Manner. Yeah,
I'm just saying he was a fast, fascinating individual.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm sure he was. He's bananas.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Go ahead, Okay, now there's all this stuff into the bank. Now,
first of all, I got questions. Do I a toothbrush,
a coconut, a knife, a shovel, and a jar of
peanut butter? No bread? No? I mean, I guess you
used the shovel.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
To space your hands. Get in there.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Coconut, coconut and peanut butter. That's I don't know, It's
like a weird dessert. They were scared to death that
the kidnappers were going to come back and track them down,
so they jump into a freezing river to make a getaway.
They moved around barefoot and naked for a week around
the field to avoid being caught. Again, this sounds a
(08:11):
lot like naked and afraid.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, it just sounds really
it just doesn't sound real sounds.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
At nighttime it was freezing, they would huddle together to
stay warm inside of the sleep together that they were
inside the sleeping bag. Even in the pouring rain. They
were still out in the bout. They had no shelter.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why wouldn't you make sulag was the.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Only shelter that they had. Yeah, naked and afraid they
would have made some shelter.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, well, she's seventeen, So.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I mean, one night, Julian suggests that they get married
under the quote unquote eyes of God before they died,
wing their celibacy, but Carolyn refused. In fact, she was
(09:08):
pretty offended by it.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And yeah, imagine, could you imagine if this was just
one big like haha to get her to sleep with them,
that's fucked up. But people do strange things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
People do do strange things. So she was determined that
they were going to make it through this, and she
was a little irritated that he didn't have the same attitude. So,
like I said, she was offended by the whole thing. Well,
eventually the couple found another bag. In this bag, it
contained their cut off clothes. Why would I do that?
(09:49):
I would never yank your chain. So they're able to
make it now to a road where they were picked
up by a farmer. The farmer took the young couple
back to his house. He immediately called the police, and
he filed a report. The police did not find a
satanic cult. Unfortunately, interestingly enough, they immediately came and arrested Julian.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The boyfriend did I call it?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Am? I right pretty close? After being pressed by police Julian. Actually,
he actually confessed to staging the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What I say.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
The police said that Julian's initial explanation was very amateurist
to the extreme, which is why they knew something was up,
in particular the failure to have a plausible reason for
anyone wanting to kidnap the couple, especially from his parents'
private property. This ultimately led to the unraveling of his
(10:57):
ridiculous story. Now, Julian had one to pressure his fiance
into marrying him so they could have sex.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Weirdo.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He was very impatient and he didn't want to wait
for her to finish school, so he decided to kidnap
her instead of, you know, laying a guilt trip on
her like most guys would do.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well. That is way worse, my god.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean, he literally did everything except the just a
tip move. That's what I would have tried. Julian was
tried and found guilty in kidnapping and torturing the victim
for six days. His grand prize eight years of prison free. Now, yeah,
(11:47):
I'm sure he will get all the sex he can possibly.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Handle tormenting somebody, And of.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Course, Caroline said that she would have married him as
soon as they graduated.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
If he had just been patient, that's really. She didn't see.
She didn't she didn't think. She didn't think to herself,
this is just really I would have questioned him. I
would have said she might.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She might have been very naive. We don't know, now, Amanda,
you guessed that part of the story.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I did, because I did. But more.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
End of the story, get out of town. It gets
more weird, I think. So wait a minute, what's it
gain wicked weird? It's and by the way, the name
of the show is wicked lye weird. There is a
lee at the end. All right, So the day before
he was actually supposed to be sentenced, This was on
(12:44):
September sixteenth. Buck Waald, who is a light skinned German.
His family actually moved to Australia.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
When he was a teen. So he's from Germany.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Wait, yes, buck Wall, that's his real name. Are you
is this real?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's his last name, buck Wall.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It sounds like a cartoon. It's not sounds like a cartoon,
it does. Okay, all right, let's go Buckwall. What did
he do?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Buckwold, a light skinned German, disguised himself as an Indian.
He dyed his hair black, he put on a fake
tan stop and then he got a fake Indian passport
and we're talking India.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
How do you get one? How do you even thinke that.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He gets a German He gets a fake Indian passport
and he slipped through customs and immigration check out.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh that's really bad before.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Taking a flight from a Singapore Airline from Sydney to
Chennai in India. Yeah. Fifteen hours later he touches down
in India where Buckwald was detained by Chennai airport officials
(14:00):
because they were a little suspicious of his passport and
knew that he looked a little quote unquote off.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You don't say it was he like ten feet tall?
And come on, I mean the blue wives didn't give
it away. Come on.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So he was sent back to Singapore where he was
promptly arrested. Now Victoria Police in Australia, they wanted to
know how Buckwall, who didn't speak a word of Hindi,
oh my god, manage to get a passport with a
fake photo and to dupe Australian customs and immigration officers.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You know how scary that is? How scary is that
they could even recognize that something was a little weird hit.
They couldn't say, oh, something doesn't look right.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's probably people just don't care about being another job.
They're just like whatever, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh my god. That is they're kind.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Of like the cat the people who run the self
checkouts at Walmart. Oh, there's people all around them snagging
free stuff. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Listen. But I mean that that's a significant that's that's
a big difference. But how do you not how do
you know what? You know what? I'm not even gonna
because people I don't know, I would question everything. That
whole story is a question.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I've seen prisoners that have escaped from jail like three times.
It's like, how do you do it once? Let alone
three times?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And but like how have they not caught on that?
You're a genius apparently, like you got to put them
in five different cells and put them in concrete. Like
and also, I told you it was a setup. I
told you he just wanted to get one out. He
didn't care about anything else. And that's also gross.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's that's very extreme though, Like that that's very it's
very extreme to literally go out naked in freezing water
and in the woods for six days.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He he it was it was do or die for him,
like he was gonna do her or he was gonna die,
and they were both going to die. Like there was
no infans butt or coconuts for that matter. Like, and
who agreed to that? Who agrees to something like that?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I've never heard about the people who dropped them off,
if they got in any trouble or not.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He probably wasn't gonna snitch. Maybe he didn't even know them.
Maybe he was just like a good he did, good day, mate,
And you helped me because I'm in search of the
I'm in search of the pusse. That's terrible that he
was a straight Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
All I can tell you is I've been horny before
in my life, really horny.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I've never done like that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Not horny to the extent that I'm willing to be
out in weather for six days, running around barefoot in
the woods and in freezing weather just to try to
get it once. I mean, I don't know what this
girl look like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
She's all strange. It's probably smoking. Most girls from down
there down into very very good looking.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'm just saying, did you.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Hear the theory about that Australia isn't real. Did you
hear that whole thing?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, God, yeah, they're real. They're just you know, it's different.
I I'm sorry, but I would have got there. That's
crazy to me, a sitianic cult. I'm never getting over
this story. I'm going to think about it now for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's actually a very cool story when you think about it,
and you know, I've got one that I almost did
and I saved it for Hillbilly's war stories. But it's
it might be even a crazier story than that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like wait, can you, like low key tell me what
the story is.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's probably a story that you know of, the story
about Blair Adams. It's crazy. It's a crazy story. Yeah,
it's It's like the kid was in Canada. He was
a kid. He was thirty one years old, but he
was in Canada. He kept trying to get across the
border to the United States and he kept getting kicked back.
(18:21):
But he just took all of his money out of
the bank, which was literally thousands of dollars put in
the backpack, was going to fly to Germany and then
changed his mind and instead bought a got across to
the US to Seattle, bought a plane ticket, a uh
ticket into what you call it Washington, d C. And
then he drove basically five hundred miles to Knoxville, Tennessee.
(18:44):
Said somebody was chasing him and he ended up dead.
But there was all kinds of stuff that happened in between.
Oh my god, it's still an unsolved case.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But how died.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, he didn't know anybody in Knoxville. Nobody knows why
he was going there.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He probably place, he probably did, he probably did something
with it stupid and just someone had enough said goodbye.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We had to follow him all over the place and
not know where the hell he was going. They wanted
it pretty bad well, you know, and they didn't even robbing.
When he was found. There was like thousand dollars of
money laying all around.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh my god, he was just that annoying. They didn't
care about anything. He was just that fucking annoying. Oh
my god, that's horrible, Just like goodbye, I don't even care.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, let's end on this. I found some incredibly
creepy things that kids have said. I thought we'd do
a couple of these things.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I got one one.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We might do a couple of them to end. Uh, Okay,
you do one and I'll do one, and we'll end
every show.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a personal story, okay, and it's horrible. So we
have a I have a two story house or whatever,
and my daughter is in across the way from me,
and she's like, she comes in to my bedroom. Nat
doesn't just like open the door. She like kick, makes
(20:05):
that bitch down and she's like mama, and I'm like,
Jesus ChRI. I'm like, what's going on. She goes the
man in the trees won't let me sleep. He's knocking
at my window. And I was like, girl, I said
what she said? Yep? I said no, I said, just
come into my bed. She's like I need lion, lions
(20:26):
or stuffed animal. And I was like, fuck lying man.
I'm like all right. So I go in there and
the door was already open, and she came out of it.
I flicked the light on and I closed my eyes
and I ripped back the curtain and there was nobody there.
And I was so wigged out. I thought I heard
tapping on the window and that was it for the
rest of the evening.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
For me.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It was like two o'clock in the morning and that
was it. I'm like the man in the trees, like
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I am
in the Bridgewater Triangle stranger things. And then my son
used to be in that room and he hated sleeping
in there, and I'm like, okay. He was another one.
He was like, oh, Mom, he came into my room.
(21:08):
He's like, Mom, this girl crawled out of my closet
and into the hallway and I was like, oh, that's
a no. I'm like where she always like, I don't know,
probably in your room. And I was like, excellent, love
that for me. So this particular room though, like even
when the kids aren't home, like you can like you'll
(21:28):
hear walking around and stuff, and so I just often
wonder if it's just a ghost or a goblin or
a ghoul just taking up residence somewhere and they occasionally
see them, you know what I mean. Right, So that's
I'm like great, And like, granted, kids have imaginations, so
you kind of have to figure out what is what,
(21:49):
but those are that stuff gets me, especially when I'm
home by myself. I hate that I have a husky
he'll come upstairs in my bedroom. I'm like, you're coming
up here with me, buddy, m M.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So here's one for you. The day my grandmother went
into a coma, my youngest sister, who was four at
the time and completely unaware that Grandma was in the hospital,
she got home from school and said Grandma came to
school with her and sat on a desk near the window.
For the next two weeks, every day my grandmother would
come visit for varian amounts of times, and she would
(22:26):
always walk out the door. One Wednesday, my sister came
home from school upset and told my mother that Grandma
had stood up and waved and then disappeared completely. My
sister knew that she wasn't coming back. A few hours later,
my mother got the call that my grandmother had in
fact passed away.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, that's a.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, yeah, crazy I We'll do some of those every
every week. That'd be a good way to end the show.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, Like, man, you have never had any creepy instances?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Not.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What kids saying something weird.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Like You've never had Like you yourself haven't even had
like a weird like Ooh, like what was that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh? I have stuff like that all time, but just
not with kids. Creepy stuff. And that's what the subject was.
If I will remind you to stay on subject.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, I was just thinking. I was just thinking out loud,
my guy.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Next well, next time we have show and tell and
it's about you know, I creepy stuff that happened to us.
I will probably have a story.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, how come you just can't give us a story
right now? I don't see what the big deal.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Is because the show's over. You always say people want more, Amanda.
Now people are worry about this for the next week.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well they should because there is some joozies because I
got myself a spirit board. No, I got myself a
spirit board. We'll talk about that nice.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That's the way we'll start off next week.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Maybe, I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Thank you so much for listening, and we hope you
enjoy it and spread the word. We need people to
know that this podcast is out.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There and it's still around. It's just got a different name,
but we're here. We're here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's a completely different podcast, Amanda. This is nothing like
we used to do.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, but it's still us.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
See some truth in that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Bye bye,
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