2033 All Detroit and Tracy Raps!!

Jerry and Tracy discuss all Detroit topics in this one! the Demon of Detroit, Eloise Mental Hospital and Teena and Brandy from Detroit Paranormal Expeditions, Tracy raps Eminem!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to hear Billy Horror Stories. Once again,
I need to apologize for last week. I was not
able to put out an episode last week due to
my huh crazy work schedule, A lot of long days
twelve fourteen hour days and Friday we ended with sixteen hours.

(00:25):
Started my shift at seven point thirty and got home
right about midnight. So yeah, very long day. Excuse me,
very long day. But I do apologize, so I want
in a maketure I put out an episode today. Just
becus two weeks without an episode. That's not fair for
you guys, So I apologize, and here it is the episode.

(00:51):
But before we get into that, we need to wish
our very own are very sweet, lovely Tracy Paullie a
very happy birthday, and if we see it, go fund

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me for Tracy Paully It's most likely for her bail money,
so be sure to support that if you will, thank you.
In this episode, Jerry and Tracy talk about the Demon
of Detroit the Ilios Mental Hospital, and Tina and Brandy
from Detroit Paranormal Expedition joins them for a interview. Budge.

(01:44):
The most important parts is Tracy raps to em and
m Yes, we have one of the very first Tracy
raps ladies and gentlemen. And remember this is a very
old episode, so the quality is not that good, but
I would try to clean it up the best I can.

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So now y'all go and join the episode.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It have a.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Very very good week, Tracy. Happy birthday. Mine's here in
just a couple of days myself, so we almost share
a birthday, don't we. Y'all have a great week.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Bye bye, you don't fail right down, dad, Brad and

(02:55):
wholesome is questionable time, but you just can't let it.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Goldie through right here, Bull on the Joe with paming
normal over low with Southern hospitality, Haunt and murder may
have him one of gust in immortality lowcases with a
north past, hits to read, It comes to light, Two
billies with a back, poor happy thing to go, come
bat night.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Oh but thank you to be by your dealthy too.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
What hap?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
He turns on to light, mixing in a little comedy
to make sure it all fifty is right?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Hey, we'llclude to a hug billy or story. Now here's
your whole share with your freaks. Paul Tadler's golf Nie
and sometimes they're tad pready, but never the parrots. Tracy.
As usual, we want to thank all of our military

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and civil servants all over the world, no matter which
country you represent, as long as you're one of the
good guys. We just want to say thank you for
what you do for us every single day. To the
men and women and service animals.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Out there, continue prayers for you guys. Thank you for
keeping us safe. Always, always, always praying for you all.
Thank you for all you guys do for us.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Tracy, it's it's been another one of those weeks where
we've talked to a lot of people that are struggling
going through some things. We just we want to make
sure everybody realizes that the group is a safe place.
I've seen a couple of people post because they felt
like there was no other place that they could post
with whatever situation they had going on, and I'm glad

(04:28):
that people feel that way. I just want to make
sure that everybody realizes that it is a safe place. Obviously,
you can contact myself with Tracy, or you can you know,
if you need a professional service, there are professional services
out there obviously, places like Betterhelp who've been sponsors on
the show in the past, and Tracy, what else could
they do?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
You can call nine eight eight the Crisis hotline. You
can also text is seven four one seven four to one.
We love you guys, and just reach out to us, please.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
All right, Tracy, let's get into the meat.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
Of this meat.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's what dinner?

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
All right, everybody, and welcome to the episode thirty eight
of Hill and the Horror Stories. My name is Jerry
and I'm joining with Tracy.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Hey, guys, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
And you will hear Tracy a little bit later, do
some wrapping up some Eminem's kind of like his gay
cousin Skittles.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Oh my god. All I'm gonna say right now is
this is the most horriblest thing I've ever done. It's
so bad.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
It actually if you like American Idol, you will like
this because it sounds like something on American Idol the
first three days when they have all the horrible accents.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, it's beyond horrible. So I just want to apologize
ahead of time, and I hope you still kind of
like me at the end.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, I'm just hoping we don't get sued by Eminem
for the trashing that we did of a song.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Oh, I know, it's so bad. It's so oh, it's
just terrible. I can't even go there.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
And look, I'm going to tell you ahead of time,
as bad as you think it's going to sound. This
actually took us over an hour to do.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Yeah, I couldnot get my beat. I could not get
It was terrible. It was like it was just horrendous.
But anyway, it's the painful painfulness is over for us anyway. Yeah,
all I can say is I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah. Now we'll leave it for the pain for you
to hear.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
And it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
God forbid if you're using earphones or something where it's
tunneling straight into your ear. Well, let's talk a little
bit about the show. This is a unique show because
we are going to be focusing on a city tonight
instead of focusing on a certain subject. And this is
Daniel Williams, who lives in Detroit, Michigan. You heard her intro.

(06:42):
She actually sent me several weeks ago a suggestion on
Elouise Hospital. It's an abandoned hospital in Detroit. She says,
you rise by that all the time and it's creepy,
and I thought, you know, well, let's just make a
night of it. So we've got the Demon of Detroit.
It's an actual haunted house story from the sixties we're
going to talk about. We're going to talk about the

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Eloise Hospital. Of course, we played a little kiss in
the beginning with Detroit Rock City. And on top of that,
we've got Tracy wrapping some eminem who is from Detroit.
To top things off tonight, we've got two psychics from
Detroit Paranormal Expeditions. We've got Brandy and Tina, who we
spent some time with the other night. There are a

(07:24):
couple of fun young ladies, and they're going to tell
us a little bit about some of the stuff they've
experienced on their adventures out there and tell us a
little bit behind the scenes stuff that psychic's deal with,
which we haven't got to hear from the ghost hunters
we've interviewed before.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Exciting. Can't wait to hear what they have to say.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I want to do some shout outs early tonight and
thank you guys for all the fantastic reviews we keep
getting on iTunes. Please please keep those reviews coming because
it really helps us get to new listeners. It's hard
to believe. But just the way iTunes does things, it's
focused more on reviews than it is how many people listen,
how many people download the show?

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah, we'd love them good or bad. We'll take any review.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
That you have that's not true whatsoever. Only good. We
do not love the bad ones.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Just be easy on me after you hear the thing.
But I will say that I rocked out that very
last paragraph on this song, So just be gentle.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, let's do a couple of shout outs real quick.
Jim Tappa from Middletown, Ohio's up, Jim gotta like this one.
He'll Billy Bob Pickering from Alabama.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Oh wow, I love it.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And then we got Ginger Jamison from California. With Ginger,
she's originally from Jamaica.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Oh wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So we got Jerome People from Florida.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Thanks Jerome for listening.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'm sure I'll screw this one up. We hadn't done
one of these in a while. He's from India. Raj
not run great car Narren Gricker, I'm sure that's bad.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Well, we love you, Raj. Sorry if you missed your
name up Honey.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Crystal Harris and Tennessee, FL. Sorry for Crystal. She's actually
from the Lexington area, but she has to live in
Knoxville now she's forced to. Why well, I don't know.
It's just horrible though, anybody has to live in Tennessee. Sorry.
Philip Brian Erling from Seattle, Washington. Brian, your shirt should
be on its way. You may even actually have it
by the time you listen to the show. Thank you

(09:09):
for your shirt order, yeah, which you can also get
by going to Hibbly horstores dot com and get your
own shirt. And that's a way of helping the show.
Last one, Shelby Bors from Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Thank you Shelby.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
He's probably up there in Jackie area up there.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Oh yeah, yeah. But I still I still don't get
what you got against Tennessee. Is it an inside joke?
I don't know about.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I just don't like Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
What we've talked about moving to Tennessee before, maw that
would have been a mistake on my part.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Anyway. We also have Jesse she Elo actually wrote us
a story that we're gonna talk about here.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Oh good, great, Sorry, Tennessee. I love y'all. I don't
know what his problem is.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I like Tennessee. I like the people in Tennessee. I
just don't like their football or their basketball team.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Oh seriously, that's why you would not move There's.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I wouldn't move there.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Well that's dumb.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
In fact, anyways, let's talk about the story. So the
first one we're going to talk about is actually a
really cool story that and I really want to think Danielle,
because I wouldn't have known anything about this story had
I not started researching the Eloise hospital that she wanted
me to look at, and it turned out to be
a pretty cool story. But this is on the Cole
Adams House. Now, this is going to take place, like

(10:24):
I said, Detroit, Michigan. This is on Market Street. So
this is a private residence that's still in use today.
So is try to respect people's privacies. If you live
in that area, I want to go check it out.
Just try to, you know, keep in mind it is
somebody's home. But this started back in the nineteen sixties,
early nineteen sixties. So Bill and Lilian Adams moves into

(10:46):
this house. Now, first of all, that struck me as
odd because Lillian Adams isn't Lilian a monster. She's done
part of the Adams family. Right, it was lister.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Was she a nice one, the blonde?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, that was the wife. She was a monster, right,
not in atoms, but then this story she's in atoms. Oh, well, yeah,
you're anyway. They had five small children and a dog,
and they move it in. Almost as soon as they
move into this house, they since kind of something was wrong,
not in the whole house. Mainly there was a back bedroom,

(11:18):
this little bedroom back there. It was really small room.
It was just big enough to have a bed in
a like a little closet.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
That was it.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Wow, it is small.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
So but all the children kind of avoided it, and
the dog refused to go into the bedroom.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like I said, it was a pretty small room. And
there really wouldn't anything you could do other than just
go in and sleep, which worked out good because Billy
Adams worked third ships at the Catillac assembly plant, and
he figured, Hey, when I come in, it's far enough
away from the rest of the house where I can
go back there. I can sleep in the mornings when
the rest of the house is up and getting breakfast
and getting school and all that. They wouldn't interfere with

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his sleeping. So that's what he decided he was going
to do well.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
That sounds like a place we lived at in Saint Thomas.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Unfortunately, but the problem is he started to get these strange,
kind of unusual feelings. And almost immediately as soon as
he started sleeping in that bedroom, he started having these nightmares.
One dream which was it's kind of scary when you
think about it, but one of his dreams, he opened
the closet door, a woman mutilated, soaked in blood, just

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fell out of the closet.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
Oh lord.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It got so bad that he lost so much sleep
that he moved back into the master bedroom. And then
once he moved into the master bedroom, the dreams just stopped.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Wow, no kidding.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
So in nineteen sixty two, his mother came to visit.
They let her sleep in the back bedroom. You know,
just what you want to do with your mother in law. Hey,
I got a personal room for you, but don't come back.
So she goes in there, and she comes down to
breakfast the very next morning, and she's like so pale.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
That everybody notices, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
And she's like, I didn't get any sleep. I heard
horrible noises all night long. It was almost like somebody
was trying to break in, and she said, not only
but she's not going to sleep in that bedroom anymore.
She cut her visit short and just left.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Oh my gosh, I would too. So did the wife
and the kids not know about that bedroom like he
was having those nightmares?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean they all knew. They all knew that something
weird was going on because nobody wanted to go into
the bedroom.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
But he never said to the other people what he
saw or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'm sure he said it to his wife. Now, soon after,
they had a friend whose name was Dick. Now he's
been a long time friend of the family. He spent
the night and they put him in the bedroom, in
the back bedroom. So mean, these aren't the most courteous.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Of people, not at all.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
They slept on the porch, they put him in the
back bedroom. They didn't mention anything about any experiences they'd had,
even though they'd all had problems with his bedroom, nobody
mentioned anything about it. And uh, he was awoken in
the middle of the night. Is it awoken or awaken?

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think awaken? You sure he was awoken? Oh, he
was awaken. It sounds he was awoken.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
He woke up around midnight by something kind of turning
him over, and when he did look, he saw a
woman standing in a doorway. Now she had her back
to him, so he couldn't see what her face looked like.
She had long hair and was wearing a kind of
a short fur coat coat and a blue dress. Okay,
so she was a well dressed ghost.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Whatever she was, well, maybe she got ate by the
wolves for eating or for her wearing her coat, and
he caught her face. I know, I'm just grasping nice for.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You to contribute to.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
So he got up and he started walking towards you know,
the spirit that he saw, and then all the lights
just went out in the whole house. I don't know
why the lights were on at midnight to begin with.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Well, oh, so man, that would have been ten thousand
times scarier.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So all the lights go out, and he just kept walking.
He was kind of stumbling into some stuff, and then
he gets to the kitchen and there was miss Adams
and they're washing her hair in the kitchen sink. I
don't know why she's what Why why would you wash
your hair at midnight?

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So anyway, they started hearing hearing this terrible wailing sound.
I don't know if it's like the whales or your face,
but they started hearing these whaling sounds and they said

(15:33):
it it sounded didn't sound like anything from this earth
so much to the point it just left them speechless.
So they didn't They were just like looking at each
other like we are right now, what the hell? Yeah,
so they were scared to literally they were scared of
speechless from fright.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I mean I would be too.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Then they started getting this sickening smell, yeah, filling the room,
probably like much of your cooking, but it was filling
the room. There's a big heavy trap door in the
kitchen that led down to the basement, and that started
opening and closing, like slamming, opening up and slamming, and
opened up and slamming. So they called the police, because

(16:08):
you know, that's what you do when you've got a
ghost in the house and you got mysterious things, you call.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
The police because you know that's better nothing you would think.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I would think the police just look like an idiot.
So yeah, so police come in. They looked the whole
house over and they didn't find anything. Surprise surprise. The
next morning, mister Adams comes in from Beobod third shift
to the Cadillac place. So he comes in, they tell
him what went on, and of course he doesn't believe them.
I don't know why he doesn't believe him, because he's
already had his own experiences. Yeah, So that night he decided,

(16:39):
because he's, you know, mister smarty pants, that he's going
to go sleep in the back bedroom again. Well, just
as he started to drift off, he heard someone moaning
in the room. Now, first, but my first thought would
be like, damn, I got my friend whose name is Dick,
and my wife's in the other room and I hear moaning.
But that's probably not what it was. I can almost

(16:59):
guarantee it was. But he did think it was his wife,
just you know, in the room, moving, moving around and stuff.
He called her name and she didn't answer. He rode
over and there was the most hideous face. I'm picturing
rose o'dnald well.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
It was not very nice for him to call her hideous.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
He said it was the most hideous face he had
ever seen. It was just inches from his face. He said,
she just stared like she was staring past him. Her
eyes were just like invisible. They were there, but it's
just like you can see through them. Her mouth was moving,
but only thing that was coming out of it was

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kind of like a hissing sound and a gurgle and
a horrible stench.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Oh god, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
No, she obviously doesn't.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Floss her teeth. Lost people, So.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Mister Adams he runs into the kitchen in a panic.
His eyes were all wide. He's kind of screaming. He's
pulling his hair out, literally, he's pulling his hair out.
His wife and his friend Dick, I just like saying Dick.
His wife and his friend Dick. Apparently they threw a
blanket over top of him to try to wrangle him in.

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And then all of a sudden, that door that's in
the kitchen, the cellar door, it started opening and closing again,
and this horrible stench started coming from down there. They
said that it smelt like rotting, rotting and stinking of
decomposing flesh.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Oh gosh, bless Fabrieze ain't gonna fix that.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
No, that ain't gonna happen. No, No, it would make
one of those good Fabrize commercials, though, could you imagine
the one. It's like they're all just sitting in a
normal living room. The next time Michell's coffins open and
bodies ain'ting out. This is what your friend smelled. This
is what you smell, and this is what your friend smelled.
It took an hour for him to calm down enough

(18:54):
to explain what he actually experienced.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Oh my gosh, that's awful.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
They they just said, hey, we're getting hell out of here.
They grabbed all their shit, they grabbed their kids, and
they left. They went and moved in with her mom.
And that's where they stayed in the house. Like I said,
it's currently lived in, but the owner won't tell if
there's been any kind of occurrences since they've lived there.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
I mean apparently there must not be, or why would
they still stay in there?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
For it was Some people just deal with crazy shit.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, but that's like, what do you wanted to deal with?
Smelly stuff? I don't know, good man, that's so creepy.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Ain't that messed up?

Speaker 6 (19:32):
That is messed up? So I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I think you. Like I said, I don't know a
whole lot about the story other than what's there. I
try to do a bunch of research. There's really not
much more on it than that.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, that's the mate. That's kind of that's kind of so.
I mean, I guess the police never said anything about it.
They just didn't find anything anything on their way.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That was the end of it.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I thought now would be a good time to kind
of break up the show a little bit to do
the uh, the reader's story. So let's jump into that
real quick. All right, Okay, I'm sure I'll butcher this
name too, but you know, hey, you're just one of
a lot of many. So it's I believe it's Jesse Shello.
It could be Clo, but I think the ch is
an shown, So Jesse she Elo. And if I'm wrong,

(20:17):
you can email me and tell me and then I'll
correct it on the next episode.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yeah, but I like it either way. It sounds nice.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's kind of cool, that kind of a foreign sound.
The name I had a cousin used to play the cello. Anyways,
So I want to start off there because she actually
tells us a story. But she also started off with
a very interesting fact that I kind of led into
on last week's show. It says, Hey, there, Jerry and Tracy.

(20:44):
First off, I want to say that I really enjoy
your show, and I think you guys are great and
each show is even better than the last.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I have to agree completely with her on that until
she hears the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Today, she said, I wanted to say that I really
enjoy the personal stories and the music episodes. To be honest,
I didn't think I was going to like the music ones,
but after the first one, I was really hooked. So
please keep them up.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
The reason I'm bringing that up is because the people
who listen to the music episodes absolutely leve them. I mean,
that's their favorite episodes. I get more compliments on the
music episodes than any of the episodes we do. But
at the same time, overall, we get the least amount
of listens for the music episodes, and I think what

(21:29):
happens is I think some people say, oh, it's a
music episode, I won't care about it, and they don't listen.
But the reality of it is, I think if you
guys actually went back and listened to them, that's way
more interesting than what you're probably thinking. It's going to
be sort of like the Elvis and the Occult, which
is why I threw that in on a regular show
that wouldn't just a music show.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
I'm still pissed about that.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, well, we're not going to dwell on Elvis. He's
a gold herter.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
He's got great limbs.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, that's how great those lips of do him in
hell as he's sacrificing goats. But when it comes to
the music episodes, just like Jesse here, she didn't think
she'd like it. She listened to it, and she actually
is hooked on it now. So I would just say,
if you're listening to the show and you've not listened
to the music episodes, go back and listen to them.

(22:15):
At least give them a shot. I think you'll really
be surprised. And then another one was she liked the
personal stories, and I know episode sixteen was just my
personal stories. We've had more people talk about that show
and some of the early episodes where we talked about
personal situations with me and Ricky about how that actually
helped them in their real life. So you know, go

(22:36):
back and listen to those. There might be something in
that you can use for your own personal life.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
But anyway, so let's go on to her story. She says,
when I was a kid, I want to say I
was around eight years old, I saw a ghost. I
was sitting in the living room watching TV with my sister,
watching a kid show. You know, nothing scary anything like that.
I had to use the bathroom, so I got up
and walked to the bathroom. How my childhood house was
like out. As you walk into the front door, into

(23:03):
a porch, and then into the living room, and then
it splits off to the kitchen, there's a tiny hallway
that leads to my parents' room, bathroom, and my childhood room.
There's a fun note that the childhood room then has
a door that leads to the attic where I eventually
moved when I became a teenager. But if you're in
the dining room going towards the hallway, you can look

(23:23):
right into the bathroom. So you have to cross the
hallway to get in. Now, to the left side is
my parents' room and to the right was my room.
So let's set this up. Basically, what's going to come
into playing this story is you have a hallway with
her room on one side and the parents room straight
across from it. Okay, So, like I was saying, I

(23:45):
got up to use the bathroom, and as I walked
to the bathroom, and before I could enter the hallway,
a ghost came from right out of my parents room,
crossed my path and into my room. It was an
elderly woman, dark blue and hunched over, taken aback, and
I froze. Never in my life did I experienced anything paranormal,
so I had no reason to be looking for anything

(24:07):
or even have my guard up. I was so spooked,
and I ran into the bathroom because I really had
to peek. Let that be a lesson for you. Your
urinary tract does not heed to ghost. If you gotta go,
you gotta go. And we won't even talk about the
diarrhea tract. I don't even know. I don't think that's
a technical term.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
I don't think it is either, But but you do.
You gotta go, you gotta go now.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Afterwards, I went into the kitchen to where my mom
was making dinner and my dog was hanging out, and
I told her what happened. She told me for the
first time that my great grandmother died in my parents'
room and her name was Jesse, my namesake. So in
the end, I saw, hopefully Jesse leeve from one room
that she died in into my room that I slept

(24:53):
in and for the rest of my time I slept
in that room. I always kept an ear open for
sounds that could have could happen, or even now as
an adult in my own house, I will always listen
for sounds and keep my eyes open. It's a fun story.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Oh that's nice though. That was her grandma.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
But just like the infomercials, but Waite does more. Oh
that's a horrible attempted. I wish the guys from Don't
Break the Oath were on here so they could.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
I know they have awesome voices.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
This is cool, she said. I grew up on Long Island,
and so did my parents, but my mom actually grew
up in Amityville and was around when the murders took place.
For the to feel family, Oh jeez. She told me
that she was home alone when it happened, and my
grandmother actually came home to tell her what happened. It
really freaked her out. And today Jesse actually lives in

(25:42):
a house in Buffalo that's one hundred years old. And
she said to my boyfriend, says, he hears voices a
lot in the house when I'm not home, but I
haven't heard anything yet, probably because I'm listening to your
podcast a little too loud.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Well, that's cool. That's a very cool story.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It was a very cool story.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
I was wondering if she had any app you know,
in her house.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Being so old, we don't get any action in this house.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Oh my god. Uh, that ain'tal probe is still coming up,
you know, and you least expect it. Well, thank you
for sharing that story with us. That was really cool.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
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be the time where we say, if you want to
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Speaker 6 (26:33):
And we want to say thank you for Oh my gosh,
thank you guys so much. It's really like I say,
time and time again, it means so much to us,
and we just appreciate you guys that listen and everything.
We just look forward to doing the next show and
getting some feedback on it.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
So yeah, people don't realize it's nice to see something
a little return on the efforts. We're not doing this
to get rich by any great shape or form. But
you know, I work seventy hours a week on my
regular job, Tracy puts in forty some hours a week
on her job, and we probably put about twenty hours
into a forty five minute to an hour podcast, so
you know, and then I know some people spend a

(27:07):
lot more time editing that we do. If we edited,
like we should edit to get a really professional show,
I'd hate to think of how much time it would
actually spend.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
I screw up so much and say things sessionn't and probably.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
But I think that's what people like, they'd like to
hear that we're real people and we're just two people
doing a podcast. So yeah, So without further ado, let's
do the story that Danielle actually turned us on to,
which is the Eloy Mental Hospital. Now I personally had
never heard of this. The more I researched it, the
more I realize that it's really similar to Waverley in Louisville,

(27:41):
which we're very familiar with. But there's a lot of
these institutions and prisons and things like that to where
one prison the stories are kind of the same as
the other prison, the same thing with the hospitals. So
as I like to do, let's tell you some background
on the Eloy Mental Hospital and let me touch on
this real quick because out something before when we did

(28:01):
the Aradell Mental Hospital in Australia, and some people were
offended that actually I put mental hospital on the flyer
that we pass around on social media. But guys, you
got to realize something. You know, back in the day,
when the think these things came out, that's what they
were called. And we're only calling these things what they're name.
I mean, some of these places were called a lunatic asylum.

(28:24):
It's not politically correct to call somebody a lunatic these days,
or but you know, when we put something down here,
that's because that's what it was called. I mean, we're
not trying to just take it upon ourselves to say, oh,
we're just being ignorant that that's what it's. That's what
it is. It was Eloyd Mental Hospital. That's what it
was called when it came out, and you know, that's
what we're gonna call it, just like aardelle, it is

(28:44):
what it is. So don't get your panties on a
bunch's all I'm saying. I'm done preaching now. Okay, okay,
So let's talk about Eloy started as Wayne County poorhouse
in eighteen thirty nine. You know, it's funny because we
don't think about those things, but you always hear people thalk, oh,
they're gonna put us in the poorhouse. They're gonna put
us in a poorhouse. There really were poorhouses back in

(29:07):
the day to where there were no welfare or government assistance.
It was if you're poor, you went to a house.
It was basically like an orphanage for adults and that's
where you lived.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Oh so you lived there and they fed you and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Basically, yeah, you didn't get your own Section eight or yeah,
whatever it's called. Across the world, it was. You know,
this is what it wasn't nice. These places were horrible.
These places were horrible. But so they started off as
a poorhouse in eighteen thirty nine. The complex had its
own police, fire department, bakery, railroad slaughterhouse. It was its
own little city, and it was one of the first

(29:44):
hospitals to use X rays for diagnosis. Pretty cool. It
was also home to the first kidney dialysis unit.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well it was the first one in Michigan, and it
was like the third or fourth in the United States.
So when they also had they were a pioneer of
music therapy to trying to use music to calm people
down and to try to, you know, help them get
on with certain problemss on products. So the complex eventually

(30:12):
expanded to cover over nine hundred and two acres and
had seventy buildings at one point.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yep. The faculty, or I said, the faculty, the facility,
it's like gym solid with the facility had radium treatment
for cancer. They were one of the first ones to
have cancer patients go through that kind of therapy. And
the sanitarium was one of the first to have an

(30:40):
open air TV setup, which once again Waverley that's what
they were known for, was having an open air TV setup,
which for the for you that are unfamiliar TV obviously.
As tuberculosis, that was huge back in the late eighteen
hundreds of early nineteen hundreds. They basically didn't have a
cure and they felt like that if you could be
out in the wide open that that actually would help

(31:02):
your lungs and that was the only treatment they really
knew a lot of people would go out west, like Colorado,
which is how the whole Stanley Hotel thing got started.
As mister Stanley had tinculosis, he went out for the
Colorado Air. So that's what they were doing here, and
that's what they did in Waverley at the height in
the nineteen twenties, at this thing, they had as many

(31:23):
as ten thousand patients and two thousand people on staff
all living there. Wow. The problem was, and this is
kind of a big problem, they only had the setup
for eighty three hundred people. So if there's ten thousand people,
there's eighty three hundred people, that means people were sleeping
on the floors.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
I was going to say, Yeah, where were they what
were they doing?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later, but
that's definitely an issue. Psychiatric patients they went underwent electric
shock therapy and insulin shock therapy, and they were the
first in the Midwest and the third hospital in the
country to do those kind of treatments some people that
had psychiatric problems. They also did lobotomies on a regular basis,

(32:08):
which if you're unfamiliar with to lobotomies, it's where they
basically stick that. There's a couple of ways they can
do it. They can take like some people would take
ice picks, and they would stick it through your eye socket,
not through the eyeball, but kind of like with the
corner of your eyes by your nose. They would stick
it down there and just kind of go up and
just kind of mush around a little bit, and they
would screw up that part of your brain because that

(32:29):
would make you extremely docile. Or they would actually drill
a hole up in your forehead and by your temples
and going that way.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Oh do it.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Or they could go up through your nose. But there
was tons of different ways that they would do these,
and unfortunately a lot of these things they were unsuccessful
and it would actually end up killing or doing a
lot more worse damage to the patient than what the
intended was.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
A sorry, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
So the farm operations, because they had their own farm
and everything, they ceased in nineteen fifty. The psychiatric division
closed in nineteen seventy seven when the state took over,
and then the main hospital closed its doors in nineteen
eighty four. Today it's made up basically have eight buildings
on the campus out of the seventy, there's only eight left.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Were they just demolished them arow, Yeah, over.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
A period of time, and there's only two of them
that are actually even being used. One of them's got
the Wayne County Senior Care the head start classes are
in there, and then they're using one building as a
homeless shelter. But there's only a couple dozen employees even

(33:43):
working in a place now now, Eloise, Like I said,
in it's height, it's had ten thousand patients, two thousand
employees and room for eighty three hundred. Well, the overcrowded
of the patients, it's horrible because you had people sleeping
on the floor. Many of them were left out of tended,
and many of them are just ignored.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You got several different inmates that spent their entire life
at this place, their adult life. You know, when we'll
get into some of those a little bit later. The
really severe inmates, they were chained upstairs of the barn,
so they had pigs and stuff underneath them, and they
were in the top floor and you could actually hear

(34:24):
their screams and echoes all over the entire ground. Like
I said, they had pigs and stuff underneath them. It
was really a cruel way to deal with people.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
That breaks my heart.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Now we talked about the open air thing for people
that were reflected with TB. Unfortunately, the way that they
handled this, it sounded good on the surface, but the
way they handled this, they had hastily erected tents set
up on a property really far away from the hospital
because they didn't want they didn't want these TV patients
anywhere around the rest of the patients, so they basically

(34:57):
lived in tents that they just kind of threw up
out there in the middle of the grounds. So they
were kind of out in the weather and everything else,
no matter what the temperatures were, no matter if it
was you know, rain and cold, that's where they were.
And it took seven years for them to actually build
a facility for the TV patients.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Life takes so long.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I have no idea. Some of the inmates, like I said,
spent their entire adult life there. A few of them
are sick, some of them because they were poor, and
some just because, you know, the initial treatment went terribly wrong,
like we talked about with the little botomies and stuff.
Bridget Hughes, she was the first listed insane patient. She

(35:41):
spent fifty three years there.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sarah Dorn she spent almost nineteen years, and Colon spent
thirty two years there. That's just a few of them.
And Anne was one of the lucky ones because they
also had an on site cemetery. And you're going to
find out as we get a little deeper into it
that the cemetery it was a horrible place to be,

(36:08):
not only because you're dead, it goes without saying, but
you didn't get grave markers there. They Like I said,
Anne had won, but everybody else just basically had a
block that had a number in it. And you know,
there's really no records or anything, which we'll get into
in a little bit. But visitors, the haunted part is

(36:29):
what everybody cares about on this and what we're having
as visitors have reported odd occurrences for years, even after
the hospital was closed. There's reports of people finding medical
waste and other strange items. And this is an interesting
one because some people have reported that there's some tunnels
and stuff underneath that they used to you know, walk

(36:50):
around in and transport patients and stuff like that from
building to building. But there's some people that say that
when they went in there, even after this was closed down,
they found jars that had bought parts in them.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Oh my lord.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
And they're saying not only that, but they also found
like a books that had medical procedures and stuff in
there that were like really strange medical just kind of
outlining how they treat you know, what they did to
these patients to try to find things out.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Yeah, that's messed up.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
A bunch of other people who claimed to hear moaning
and screams and roars throughout the whole ground, which similar
to the people that were chained up in the in
the barn area. Some believe it's definitely the souls of
the tormented patients, because, I mean, you're going to find
out that there's over seven thousand people in that cemetery.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
I mean, did they feed them when they were Yeah,
I mean, I mean they were fed and everything, but
they were treated like animals more or less.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I mean, tell that just by being kept in a barn.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
I wish I could hug every one of them. This
is terrible.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
There have been a bunch of paranormal investigators have done
investigations there. A group recently claimed that they saw a
spirit of a woman were in a white gown, kind
of like a white gown, white white dress, which she's
usually seen in the upper floors or on the roof
of the of the main building where they where they
still have the people working. Now, let's talk about the

(38:13):
old Eloy graveyard because it's supposed to be really haunted,
as you can imagine.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
So, but I wonder if anybody that works there now
have experienced anything, I mean heavy, do they? I mean,
has anybody said anything about that?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Well, it's funny that you do say that, because right
on que there's a well, so we'll hold off on
the hospital so I can tell you this part. There's
a building employee that said she had an experience. A
couple of kids ran up the staircase. They kind of stopped,
and I turned around and came right back and said,
there was a there was a guy out there sitting
on the steps. He was in Bermuda shortz and was

(38:48):
just sitting there. Well, the kids were the only ones
that saw anything, because nobody else saw anything. And there's
no nobody there that looked like fit the description or
yeah or anything like that. So they said, you know,
nobody saw that guy, but they've seen shadows and stuff
like that.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Oh man, that'd be a scary place to work. I
don't think I want to for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, it's actually up for sale, like, well, it's probably
not up for so now, but in twenty fifteen they
actually put it up for sale.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
They did.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, some of the property is like a golf course,
and I think there's some retail and stuff like that
on it, but there's a big part of it it's
actually a golf course.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
Now, so would they move the elderly people then somewhere
else or they would still stay there if somebody bought it.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
No, there's nobody there now. Oh, it's strictly it's strictly
just it's a senior center, right. But I don't think
they're living there. I think it's like, I don't think
it's a nursing home. I think it's like where they
just comesinda hang out with people.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Now the cemetery, let's go back to that. The last
burial there was in nineteen forty eight. Seven thousand patients
are buried there, but it wasn't until August twenty fifteen
that this place was even discovered. What, well, it's kind
of like across the street, and the graves were all
grown over there was so much like it's almost like

(40:08):
hay and stuff like that. The grass was so tall.
And then when people went over there, I guess when
I ever get ready for this cell, people went over
there and they started realizing that there was a whole
cemetery over there. It's just been forgotten over time. And
the problem is most of the people buried there were
either poor, or they had no relators, or they had

(40:28):
nobody that would take care of their funeral arrangements. And
you know, I mean somebody. You got to realize some
of these people were just dropped off and by family
members and committed them, because back then it only took
one or two signatures to get somebody committed. And once
they were committed, I mean they never came back and
got them.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Don't do that to me from I'm not going to
do that to you.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So from nineteen ten to nineteen forty eight, it became
a graveyard by necessity. I mean, it's just they had
to do something with the bodies, and they just they
were coming more and more of them, yeah, and nothing
to do with them. So they had to just use
part of the land as a cemetery.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
And I mean, and the problem is, like I said,
if you go over and look at some pictures, it's
nothing but just little blocks about the size of a brick, yeah,
a little bit bigger, and it's just got like two
seventeen on it. And the problem is that all the
records and everything from this place have been lost over
the years, so nobody even knows who any of those
people are. There's seven thousand people there and very few

(41:31):
of them have gravestones.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Very sad, very very sad.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
So with that being said, that is a horrible situation.
I'm glad that we do not live in a society
to where that's the way people with disabilities and mental
handicaps or any of that are actually treated. It's it's
sad to think that that's the world that we lived
in at one point in time to where that was acceptable.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
I mean, I mean, how much more would it it
took for somebody to just put their name on it?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I mean, come on now, Yeah, I don't understand the
point of just not putting a name on a grave marker.
It makes no sense. It's kind of really, some of
these people just their their life meant nothing apparently to anybody,
and it's sad that there's nothing to remember them by.
I guess on the right side of it is there's
nobody that's going to be coming to visit them anyway,

(42:23):
So what's it matter.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
It does matter because they're humans, true, and I'm really
sorry that that happened to them. It's just a shame.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So now what we want to do is we got
to talk to these very funny young ladies. And they're
actually both psychics. They both do things a little bit different,
but they're going to talk to you a little bit
about being psychics, how it's affected their life, how long
they've been psychics, or at least knew they had a gift.

(42:56):
And like I said, these young ladies are with Detroit
Paranormal Expeditions, and Todd, who actually started the group, put
me in touch with these young ladies. And I'm glad
he did because I've never had the opportunity to actually
talk to anybody who's an actual psychic. Yeah, not from
that level to where they were telling us about, you know,
how they got into it and how it's affected their

(43:18):
life and that type of thing. So please take a
second here to Welcome Tina and Brandy from Detroit Paranormal Expeditions.
All right, welcome back to Hillbilly Horror Stories. We've got
some special guests on the line with us. This is
something that's actually been into works for almost two months now,
since I met Todd with Detroit Paranormal Expeditions and I

(43:40):
told him we were going to be doing some stories
on Michigan and it would be cool if he could
get us hooked up with some people from the from group.
And he hooked us up tonight, which I think is
really cool. We've got Brandy and we've got Tina, and
the cool thing about them is they were both psychics
with Detroit Paranormal and you ladies are the first psychics

(44:03):
that we've actually ever had on our show. So welcome aboard, Welcome, awesome,
Thank you all. So what I wanted to do was
give you a chance to talk a little bit about yourselves,
what you do with the group, and tell a little
bit about the group. It's so because my understanding is, Brandy,
you're one of the founders of the group. Am I
correcting that?

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Okay, So why don't we start with you, Brandy.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
Well, I'm the psychic medium. Of course, I mainly go in.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Anything about the building. Before we go to a location,
they keep the history of the place, so you know,
I'll pretty much guard it away from me until afterwards.
I go in and well, actually they go in before me,
and they'll do their walk through and get to know
the building a little bit better. Why I stay behind,
And then once we're ready, then we go and investigate it,

(44:53):
and I'll tell them what I'm getting and what I'm
picking up on, and then at the end of it,
we join in to go and put everything together to
see what we got and see if everything matched up.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Wow. So how long have you been doing the actual
research and is when you got into the research, were
you already a psychic or is this something that you
realized after you got into it.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
No, I have had my abilities since I was the
age of four. I actually just got with the teams
and stuff and doing the paranormal work for probably about
five six years.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Now, how did that come about? How did you get
involved with the paranormal work? If somebody approach you, did
you start just decided Hey, this is something we need
to start a team up.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Well, me and Todd has been talking for a while
before we started the team up about making his own team,
and it was actually me and him and Job and
we were deciding on it, and we gave it a go,
and then we ended up finding we had actually ended
up adding Lauren and Matt and Margie to the group,

(45:57):
and then after that we just started adding more and
now he just added Tina. Got to have Tina on
the team, and that's basically how it started.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Tina, how long have you been part of the group.

Speaker 7 (46:09):
I actually officially maybe about a month.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Oh, so you're like a real newbie.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
I'm a newbie.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
I actually have been doing investigating for about five years.
I'm from Windsor, Ontario in Canada, and I worked with
several teams over there, and I just kind of hooked
up with Todd on social media and he invited me
to a few investigations and you know, I worked well
with the team, so they invited me to join the

(46:38):
team about a month ago.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Really cool. So tell me a little bit about your
psychic background. When did you first notice that you had
a gift?

Speaker 7 (46:47):
I think the same with Brandy. I always did.

Speaker 9 (46:51):
I remember, like when I was a kid seeing apparitions
and hearing things and stuff like that. I really shut
it down when I was sixteen and reopen anything till
about five years ago. When I started, I thought investigating
was kind of a cool hobby type of thing, and
then as I started investigating, I was able to read

(47:11):
different things in buildings and just kind of developed it
from there.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Now, do you take the same approach that Brandy does
when you go into a building? Do you not want
to know anything about it? And what's your hope procedure
on that?

Speaker 7 (47:24):
It depends on who.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
Like I've always worked with other psychics in the groups
that I've worked with, So it depends on whether they
want me to go in as just an investigator or
whether they.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Want me to go in and do a read.

Speaker 9 (47:38):
So if they want me to go in and be
the psychic consult then I don't do a walkthrough and
I don't do any history. But if they want me
as a just an investigator, then I'll go do the
walkthrough and take notes and then I go with the
psychic and kind of confirm what they're reading.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So now you two the only psychics on the team
or are there others?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (48:01):
Yes, we're the only two?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Are there? Ever? Times? Where you were both used for
psychic console.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Yeah, the last one we did.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
It was really cool. Actually the last we did the
Old the King Jail in.

Speaker 9 (48:15):
Ohio, and it was great because Brandy and I kind
of both stayed together for the night and she would
pick up on certain things.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
And where I couldn't read, she was reading.

Speaker 9 (48:28):
And then the same thing if we went into another area,
I would pick up on someone else and she would
kind of take a background to it.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
So we work really really well together.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
That's pretty cool. So is this do y'all feel like that?
Y'all formed a bond, like almost immediately the first time
y'all did something together.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
For sure, we got close real quick.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Good. And so let's talk about I know you've done
some stuff together, but with only being there a month,
there's not a whole lot you've done together. Brandy obviously
goes back a little bit further. Brandy, tell me about
your most interesting experience on an investigation that you guys
have done as a group. What you know, has there
been any any situations that jump out that stand out

(49:11):
above the others, anything where you felt like you were
threatened or scared in any of these things? Tell me
a little bit about some of the ones that you really.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Liked I personally.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
I mean, i've been on investigations alone, not with the
team that I've had one experience that really freaked me out.
As far as on the team, I've never had anything
really scare me. Besides when Todd locked himself in one
of those cell rooms and jumped out at me.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I was scared. That's about it.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
But what about the situation when you were alone? Tell
me about that one. What part of me tell me
about the situation when you were alone where you had
a scare.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
Mine would have to be at Ohio State Reformatory.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I've heard so much about that place.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
Yeah, I actually go back there quite a bit. I've
been there six times. It's my favorite place. But we
were off in the east wing, I think it was
the fourth floor, and I was staring down the hallway
of the cell blocks and all of a sudden, I
mean it's pitch black, but all of a sudden, I

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could just feel.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
This energy come at me.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
And all I can do is like, I turn around,
and I just jetted and I ran and one of
my girlfriends that was around the corner, I literally grabbed
her arms and picked her up in hurry, even swung
her behind me because it felt like it was right
behind me. Well, she had snapped a picture and caught

(50:44):
almost like a transparent hand and the Yeah, it was insane.
I'm gonna see if I could pull it off, and
I'll let's show you guys. But also we played back
the EVP on it, and the same time, like right
before you hear me scream, you can hear he's coming

(51:04):
in a woman's voice. And then I hurry up and
I turned around and I screamed, and I just took off.
Oh yeah, that was probably my most like worst experience ever.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Are so brave.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I can't even Yeah, Tracy won't walk outside if the
porch light's not on, so yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
It was. It was a I can't even explain the feeling.
I mean, just to have something come at you like that.
I mean, even though we're psychic mediums, we don't always
see what's coming at us or you know what's there.
We just know something's there. So just for me to
feel like something was coming at me like that and
it wasn't a good feeling.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
I just took off.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
You know, It's amazing to me how many prisons, because
you know, you've got Eastern State, you got Ohio, you
know the Ohio Reformatory. I just had a gentleman here
that works at the Kentucky State Reformatory sent me a
book that he wrote. He's been there for like twenty
some years and he actually wrote and published a book
about the ghost down there at the Kentucky State Reformatory. So,

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I mean, it's I guess there's just it goes without
saying there's so much you know, bad people there and
so much dread and so much just you know, despair
that I guess it just goes without saying that that
would be a natural place to find these things.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
So what about Tina, What about your situations? Have you
ever had a situation that you've encountered where maybe it's
not on an investigation, maybe it's just something to do
with your psychic ability. Have you ever had anything just
really freak you out, something you saw that you didn't
want to see, or tell me about any experiences you
might have had.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
Yeah, I think my worst experience was probably.

Speaker 9 (52:48):
It's a place called Mackenzie Hall in Windsor, and it
used to be the old Courthouse for Windsor, Ontario, so
they would have where they would bring the inmates from
the jail next door and house them in the courthouse
before they went on trial. They actually had the gallows

(53:11):
out in the parking lot there, so there was hangings
there as well.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Well.

Speaker 9 (53:16):
I shouldn't say worse, but the scariest thing I ever
went through was I think we investigated there several times.
The first time we went in, We've got EVPs. The
K twos were going crazy whenever you put them near me,
And as they're going through the recordings, one of my
coworkers said, do you like Tina, because every time the

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k twos.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
Were near me, they were going red.

Speaker 9 (53:40):
And we actually got an EVP where you know, we
had someone whisper Yeah, but it was a really drawn
out like yeah, yeah, freaking out. Every time I hear it,
it freaks me out. I think the third time we
went in there, I didn't protect myself properly and I
was kind of taking care of my team spiritually.

Speaker 7 (54:02):
And I left myself open and I had.

Speaker 9 (54:05):
This thing in the basement. I've looked at him like
the from what I was getting, he was the old
guard for the cells downstairs was not a nice person
at the jail as well as in his personal life,
and I got a lot of abuse and abuse towards women, rape,

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stuff like that, a lot of.

Speaker 7 (54:27):
Images in my head.

Speaker 9 (54:30):
I ended up getting an attachment there and I had
to have Reiki masters work on me for three days
to clear it because I was just it was almost
like in a comatose state, like I didn't know what
was going on. I was in and out of consciousness
and I wasn't myself, and it was it was very scary,
very scary.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So you brought up an interesting subject that I think
the listeners would be interested in. You said you didn't
protect yourself properly. Tell me a little bit about you know,
and I'll listen to both of you on your comments
on this, But tell me a little bit about some
things that the average person probably wouldn't even think about
that you guys need to do to protect yourself. And
we'll start with We'll go ahead, start with Tina, since

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you just brought it up.

Speaker 9 (55:12):
Okay, Well, with being a psychic, you pick up so
much more when you're at these locations, right because everything
is energy, So I mean, in order to protect yourself
from the negative energies that are around you, or just
energy in general, because you can bring very nice people
home with you as well. But I did a lot

(55:36):
of teaching with the group. We got together all the
girls and we did how to properly ground and protect
with We did a lot of Rayki techniques, so I
was teaching them how to just basically build yourself in
the bubble to protect yourself from whatever's coming near you.
It's it's more a state of mind. Other things I do,

(55:59):
and I know some of the members of the group
do as well. We have protective stones that.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
We bring with us.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
I sage before an investigation. I sage after an investigation.
I always carry prayer, my medallions. Yep, we do prayer
before we go in. It's kind of it's almost, I
don't want to say a ritual, but it's it's a
it's just kind.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Of a way of life.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
You've got to make sure that spiritually you're connected with
your higher source before you.

Speaker 7 (56:27):
Go into these things, so that you don't take anything
home with you.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
I almost think it would be really fun almost to
kind of be there with you. But then and again,
I'm like, well, look, you know what I'm saying time
you take some home with me. You know, all the
nice people can you know come to this party. But
I believe that is so interesting. I just I feel
like i've I don't know, do you feel like it's
a gift or.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
I believe it's a curse and a gift. I mean
it's a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
All in one.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
I mean a lot of it's not a walk in
the park, to be honest with you, I mean, just
it drains us.

Speaker 7 (57:01):
And I mean if you do get negative stuff, that
stuff in beds in your head, you don't forget about it.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I mean, but a lot of it is a blessing too.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
You connect people with their loved ones, you help them heal,
I resolve cases. I mean, it's just all different kinds
of things.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Yeah, But I don't know if this is a dumb question.
Do you have to like say, like we're talking now,
could you like channel something for me to say? Or
does this have more I mean, does it better in person?
I guess I don't know if that makes sense or not.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
But I'd have to say for me, as far as
I read more of Past love one or like past
love ones or you know, stuff like that, but I
read better off pictures.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Oh I got you.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
That's so interesting. Okay, good.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Yeah, I mean as far as like I can if
I was with you know, person or person with somebody,
I can get vibes and stuff like that. But I
read better at a distance. That's just how I've always
done it. Like buildings and stuff like that. I can
before we have an investigation, Ti'd be like.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Okay, well we're going to this place.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
I'm like, all right, and then all of a sudden,
I'm reading the building before.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I even go there, and he's like, how are you
doing it?

Speaker 7 (58:14):
You've never even been there, how do you It's just
how I read. I pick up things from way, like
I've done readings from England and everywhere else. And it's
just I can't read things when they're close up to me.
It's hard. But I mean, and I'm the opposite.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
I can't read.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
I can't read pictures or long distance very well.

Speaker 9 (58:36):
But the minute I get to a location, or if
I get near a person, if I just get near someone,
I can read a lot on them.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (58:43):
Or I kind of say I'm tapping into the building,
like I'll hang on to the walls or I'll have
to sit down in a.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
Room and just feel the energy, and then I can
pick up so much more.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
Yeah, well that's good. You guys can balance each other
out on that aspect. That's so interesting.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
Yeah, definitely do that. We're good at doing that. Actually,
that's great.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
See I used to be kind of like that with women.
The farther they were away, the more attractive they were
to nothing. I said, used to be.

Speaker 7 (59:15):
Okay, all right, I'll let you sign can cover good cover.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
And you know we were talking. You were talking about
using sage, which I always heard. You know, that's what
you do to Cleant's house. And I remember one time
we thought we had a ghost and I didn't have
any sage, but I did have some stovetop stuffing with
sage in it, so I just cooked out. We still
had the ghost, but I was no longer hungry, so
that problem was solved.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 7 (59:39):
I was a little bit of turkey and good fresh
pieces of bread. That's a good sandwich.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
So let's do this. Then, let's talk about for both
of you, what is the most fun place that you've
been able to do an investigation at as far as
like you know, now, this has really surprised me. It
was I was wouldn't really expecting this to come out
of it, but it was a big surprise. Anything any
places that pop out of you that are better than others.

(01:00:07):
I know you mentioned the how reformatory you and your
favorite place is that. Would that be the place still
here or is there a different place that just really
took you by surprise?

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
Honestly I can have. I have to say, actually a
local place over here where we're from. It's called a
Norse farm and it's just a little farmhouse. It actually
took me by surprise of how active it is, because
I really didn't think that it would be that active.
We've already investigated it twice and both times I have

(01:00:42):
picked up on a small.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Girl and a guy.

Speaker 7 (01:00:47):
And it's weird how it played out because the first
time I went there, I had picked up on the
guy and the girl, but he wasn't that strong. I
was picking more up on the little girl, and I
didn't know any history of it, but the owners they
were little girls at the time when they owned the
home or when their parents own the home. Well, with

(01:01:09):
the little girl that I was picking up, I had
asked her what her name was and she had told
me Emmy. So when we got done with the investigation,
I got with the homeowner and she confirmed to me
that her and her sister had gave that spirit of
a little girl the name of Emmy because they used

(01:01:30):
to see her when they were younger.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I mean so to me, it was just like wow,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
So we went back for the second investigation, and I
would see her like peeking around the corners, playing hide
and seek and you know, run around and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
But the mail was a little bit stronger to me this.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
Time, and he actually, I believe, committed suicide.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
In the burn and we were picking that up.

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
And also, you know with the heaviness in the basement
stuff and just footstops and knocks.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
And just shadows.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
And so it took me by surprise how active this
place was, because I really did not expect it to
be like that. But it seems like every time we
go back, it's almost like they know, oh, here, they're back,
you know, let's give.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Them some action.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
They kind of found each other, I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
Then.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I've heard about investigations before to where especially if
you make multiple trips back, if the spirits really like you.
They tend to just you know, be a lot more
open and visible to you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Yes, I believe that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
So what about any places on your list that you
haven't had a chance to investigate that If you could
go anywhere in the world and investigate, what would be
the tops on both of your lists?

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
I would have to say one of mine is Alcatraz.
Oh gosh, that's probably one of my like the number
one I might list, and then maybe some casts over
in Ireland and stuff, but that's pretty much my like
go tos, those are my my bucket list before you know,

(01:03:09):
I quit or whatever happened.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
You know, that's trull to do it anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I can't even imagine Alcatraz. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Oh, you always said you want to live on an island.
What about your choices?

Speaker 10 (01:03:29):
I would have to say Ireland again for sure, because
you know, I've been talking about that with a couple
of other friends that investigate, and they've been talking about
wanting to go over, and I said, you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Allowed to go without me.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
Something that's a little more realistic.

Speaker 9 (01:03:45):
I really want to go to New Orleans and just
just kind of walk the French Quarter and see what
I pick up because it's just so rich in history.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
It's it's different for you guys than the average person, cause,
like you said, you could just walk around the French
Quarter and pick up stuff where the average person, you know,
we would have to go to a haunted location and
hope we see something. Yeah, you know, so, uh, I
know what about have y'all been to some of the
you're you're right there in Michigan. I know, Michigan is
a big state, so it's not like that everything's right

(01:04:18):
in your backyard. But have you guys ever had a
chance to go up to Macana Island yet and do
like the Grand Hotel or anything up there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
No, we haven't got to do any of that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
I'll passed by it, but we've never done in We
were actually talking about going up there sometime at the
end of the year or something. It's in the works,
you know, to get up there and do some some
work up there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I would love to go up there, just just to
go up there, not even for the for the that aspect.
It's just the idea of having an island where there's
no no cars on it except for you know, emergency
vehicle and everything is horse and carriage, and I mean,
it just seems like the most awesome setting. And then
you throw in the grand hotel that's haunted in a
couple other places. It just it seems like the perfect

(01:04:59):
place to been a couple of weeks. Oh yeah, but ladies,
I greatly appreciate you coming on the show. Can how
can the listeners find you guys? If you y'all got
some websites or some social media that you can plug.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
We have.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
Our website is www dot Detroit paranormal dot com. You
can find us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
That's about it. We're on every social media.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
So how do you ladies as far as the group,
how do y'all usually find your cases or these things
that you just picked and do? Or is there things
that people suggest to you, or do y'all do any
kind of residential stuff or is it strictly the bigger
business type aspects. Give me a little bit of an
idea of what y'all do as a team.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
We've done a little bit of residential.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
The majority of is a lot of people want us
to do it, and we do go out and look
for them ourselves. So I mean it's a little bit
of mixture of all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
To be honest with you, how many investigations would you
say you guys would do over the course of a year.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
Oh god, I think we've done one almost every week,
like every weekend. Yeah, we're really we're really busy. At
least three of then.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Yeah, we're good for all with the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
To be honest with you, Now, when y'all get pictures
and EVPs and stuff, do y'all post that on the website?

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Yes, that is on our website.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Okay, cool, So anybody who wants to see these pictures
and stuff from past investigations, they can. They can check
out the website and see some of the cool stuff
you guys have done.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Yes, please do well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Send my regards to Todd. I wish he could have
been on the show too. He said, you guys relate
really well to each other, and he thought that you
would make a fantastic interview, and he was one hundred
percent correct. So we greatly appreciate him having the insight
to put you two together. And I know I've had
fun with it, and I hope you guys have to. Yeah,

(01:06:49):
thank you, well, thank you guys so much, and we
will talk to y'all probably soon. I'm sure we'll have
some other stuff in Michigan and we can bring you
guys back on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
You See, those young ladies are fun. I'll be glad
to maybe we can get them back on the show
again at some other time, maybe get Todd on the
show to talk about some of the actual investigations they've done,
besides just the ones we've already talked about.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Yeah, I think I kind of wish I was like
a psychic, but I don't know if it's a blessing or.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Not sure psychotic.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Well I'm halfway there. Is that what we're trying to say?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Thinking halfway, we went.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
To the other direction. But that's all right, It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I love you anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
I love you baby.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
So I guess we've put it off long enough. It's time.
Guess who's back. Guess who's back?

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
And I just hope you come back. I hope you
come back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I do want to point out before we end on
this horrible high note and other notes, that next week's
show we got a little taste of the Detroit Demon
this week. Next week's show is a story that all
of you probably know about. It's the Demon House of Gary, Indiana.
That's the one that Zach Began's actually bought and it

(01:08:05):
had torn down. I'm excited about doing that when a
lot of people have asked about it. And the only
reason I held off on this because I heard some
other shows doing doing shows on that particular subject and
I just didn't want to put ours right there at
that same time. So all of them were coming out
at the same time. So I want to give a
little bit of distance between so many other shows. I know,

(01:08:28):
Mysterious Radio, our buddies over there, they actually did had
an interview with a guy wrote a book on its Yeah,
very good, So ours would be different than theirs. But
it's just been done by so many people that I
just wanted to give a little distance. But we're going
to do it right and I'm excited about it. It's hard,
it's gonna be hard to try to find some music
for that one. I'll probably have to do some Michael

(01:08:48):
Jacksons and c he's from Gary, Indiana. What else are
you going to do? Yeah? So and he's yeah, I
don't know what you beat it? Okay, everybody, brace yourself
it's time and we're going to end on this.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
You probably need a puke bucket beside you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Okay, Tracy's rendition and we went all out this time.
We actually have music behind this one. But Tracy raps
eminem and here we go. And please, no matter what
your comments are, email us, send them on Twitter, set
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We got an Instagram page. I know how you feel
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Speaker 11 (01:09:42):
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down the outside. Trailer park girls go round the outside,
round the outside, down the outside.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
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Speaker 9 (01:10:08):
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gets you back, gets you back.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
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no more. They want shady. I choked flippers. If you
want shady, this is what I'll give you. A little
bit of weed mixed with some of our liquors. Some
buck of us stopped my HeartWare than shock when I
get shocked at the hospital by the bock when I'm
not cooperating, when I'm walking the table and it's operating.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Hey, you waited just.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
Song down off the baby because I'm back Dow, I'm
on the rag and i'mulady, and I know that you
got a shock and change, but your husband's heart problems
complicated for the FC Sea won't batman or let me
be me, so betan See try to shut me down
on EMPTV. But it feels so empty. You will at me.

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
They would like to thank you folks for kind of
dropping in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
We're all invited back.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
Next week for this locality to have a heap and
helping on their hospitality.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
You'll really that is I'll come back now here