2056 Highgate Vampire

Jerry and Tracy talk about the Highgate Vampire, Read a listeners story and chat with Sean Smith with Bout Time podcast about his paranormal experience!

Episode Transcript

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Had a low hell Billy Nation to how the heck
are you? Wow? If you can see we are back
in business. We have obtained a new PC in the
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dig thank you. I very humbled and very thankful for
your help. Hey, Hugh, very much. On this week's episode,
Jerry and Tracy to about the high Gate Bar Empire,

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and then I turn around and I weed a listeners story,
and then they chat with Sharon Smith with about time
PODCAF the doc's pay around normal experience. So y'all go
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All right. Welcome everyone to episode sixty one of Hillbilly
Horror Stories. My name is Jerry and I'm joined by
my mostly lovely wife Tracy because she got her hair

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did today.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Thank you, honey, Bunny.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Thank you guys for everything you do. It's been an
amazing couple of weeks for us. We went on vacation
last week and ended up at Scarefest, where so many
of you fantastic people came back to see us. And
it was very humbling for us to have people drive
four and a half hours in some instances strictly to

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see us. And I can remember thinking, you know, Robert
England's here, right, Why would you drive four and a
half hours to see you?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh my gosh. It was like, I'm like, what's happening?
What is happening here? It was the sweetest thing, though,
and we met some awesome listeners and just awesome people.
It was so much fun at Scarefest.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, And I mean it's the people that stopped by
specifically to say that we love the show and got
pictures and stuff with us. I can't thank you enough.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
No, I can't either, because it meant the world to us, especially.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Me, Yeah, especially her, especially me. So let's start off
the show by thinking all of our military and civil service, thank.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
You so much. Especially I tell you what, this world
is just keeping you gass hopping. And you know, all
prayers are out to Las Vegas. I feel like every
dag on episode we're saying our prayers. I mean, we
pray for the world anyway, but it seems like we've
happen to say extra things and extra prayers for something
that's happening every single week, and it's just ridiculous. But

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you know, we can't thank the first responders and all
those people, all the fans that were in the crowd
that you know, did everything they could to help the wounded.
I mean, it's just amazing how they all came together.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Did you hear the story about the marine.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
That stole the truck?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Good for him that took the truck. That was pretty odd.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, it was very awesome.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
So those of you didn't hear, he actually found a
truck that had keys in.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
It and why would you leave your keys in the car.
But it's like it's almost was meant to be you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
But he was taking wounded and shuttling them back and
forth to the hospital and then coming back and getting more.
And then when the guy whose truck, whose truck it
was that he took, when he found out and found
out what the purpose, he just said, Hey, I just
I just want the keys back, no harm, no foul.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Oh heck yeah, I mean, it was just it was
totally amazing. And he found that truck on the first
try too. It's like the first truck he went to.
How crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's awesome. I love it when you know, we have
a lot of respect for our military and civil servants,
first responders, and that's why we put that at the
beginning of every show. But we love it when you
guys actually write us and tell us that you enjoy
that we do that. Madison from up in Denver, Colorado,

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she actually sent a message this morning saying that, you know,
she had joined the police Academy and she loves that
we do that. We hear from a lot of our
military over in Germany. Victoria Reagan, who listens on a
regular basis over there and has a big part of
the troops over there listening. Yes, we love it that
you guys appreciate what we do. It's the least we

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could do for what compared to what you guys do.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
I wish I could hug every single.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
One of you, and there's no doubt about that. All right,
let's jump in this this. We got two weeks worth
of stuff to do, so I want to make sure
we breeze through this because I don't want to take
away from the show New Patreons last week. We actually
our patreons are so awesome they let us use one
of our prior shows, which there were some technical difficulties
on for some reason, the last six minutes cut off.

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I did put that extra six minutes up, so only
about half of you have listened to that one, so
half of you got the full story and some of
you missed a little tail end of it. But that's
up if you guys want to listen to it. But
I want to say thank you because the Patreon users
let us put that episode up, and since we put
that up, we've had like seven or eight new Patreon subscribers.

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So obviously, obviously you guys liked what you heard and
what you get for the extra episode, so we want
to say thank you for that, So let's breeze through.
Who we got new, Amy Ferguson, Dylan McNamara, We've got
Donna Smith, Judith Kramer, Todd Hedges, Jordan Lee, Zachary Gelderman,

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and Amanda Riley. Thank you guys so much for your support.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Not gonna lie to you. We hope eventually to be
able to do this full time, so your support actually
means a lot to us and it helps us get
to that point somewhere down the road. So thank you
so much. iTunes, it just so happens we had a
record number of iTunes reviews in the two weeks that
we didn't get to report them, which is awesome that
I actually want to get through all of these and

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I'm going to breeze through as quick as possible, so
please be patient with us. You guys are awesome. Uh
and for those of you who have screwed up iTunes names,
it's probably gonna get screwed up here, so uh yeah,
first one's I'm gonna say b Mouk and then we've
got Dabist Maine. We've got Maxwell from Relic. Relic is

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a podcast and I'm actually going to be on with
Maxwell later this month on one of his episodes talking
about the Dippic Box, So thanks Maxwell for that. Then
we've got JR JRT Love eighty seven, Kimmy eighty one,
JF nine five to one. I've got sample mm Lauren

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from South Florida, Waldo Green looks like Julie from Fardale.
Just want to reply, that's original name you got there? Uh?
Sam for Dan? I think Sam for something. We got
Jason's Dream, which is my buddy out in Arizona who
can't figure out why it came up Jason's Dream. I

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think she thinks it just picked the name.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Oh.

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Then we got twitch pod the Gone Cold podcast, which
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Speaker 5 (10:13):
Seven Tay Gone. That's a buttload.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that is a but I don't think that's an
actual measurement.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I appreciate each and every one of you. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So let's jump into our show. We have got some
really cool stuff to do. First of all, I want
to start off by saying that we got some exciting
news that as of this coming Wednesday, we have a
featured article that was written by Andrea Whitney. And she
is the editor in chief for the Jasper Newsboy, and

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she approached us about doing an article on us a
while back, and she's spent the last three or four
months gathering information and she wanted to wait till after
Scarefest so she could add some of that in there.
And she is actually putting this article together. It will
be released this coming Wednesday, And much to our surprise,
this thing is going to be in a lot of
other papers that we didn't even realize. So we're thinking Jasper,

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it's going to end up being in a Beaumont's newspaper,
San Antonio and Houston where we have a lot of listeners.
So you guys out there check this out. On Wednesday,
it's going to be in a New Orleans paper as
well as the San Francisco Chronicle. Yeah, and then a
couple of magazines, and then of course it'll be online everywhere.
So if you don't buy papers and you do the

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online thing, it's going to be online everywhere. We couldn't
be happier about this because this shows that there's an
actual interest in what we do to where people actually
want to run this across the country. So we are
very humbled and excited at the same time. Now, with
that being said, Andrea Whitney has been on our show before.

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She came on three or four months ago and she
told us an awesome story. This is what she does.
She writes paranormal stories for these papers. And she is
going to come on next week. She's not gonna be
in the show, but she's gonna come on the next
week's show and tell us about the Black Hope horror
that happened in Texas, right outside of Houston. And I'm

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not gonna spoil it for you, but basically it's the
story that they based the movie Poltergeist off of Oh Wow,
just a tad bit about it. It's a suburb that
was built. They built it over top of an African
American cemetery that just kind of gota went back. That
was back in the thirties, and it just kind of
gota went.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
A ry.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I guess you could say. It got bought by some
construction companies. They started building it, and it just kind
of got lost in the shuffle. And the people were
getting ready to build a pool. If that sounds familiar, you're.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Telling you much.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, I'm not. Can I do this? Are young?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I guess?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Go ahead, and they're going to build a pool. And
this African American gentleman, older guy knocks on her door
and says, hey, you don't want to do that, because
you're gonna dig up some bodies. And he knew this
because he's the one that actually buried him there, because
he the caretaker I guess at the cemetery. And they
actually did dig and they came up with some bodies. Thus,
the whole concept of Poltergeist and the whole pool scene

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and all that was all based on this ten times
more than I'm ever getting into. But Andrea actually interviewed
the owners of the house. She interviewed so many people
and did actually like a college thesis or something on this,
So she's got tons of information. She's gonna come on
with us next week and tell that story, and she's
an awesome storyteller and I can't wait. It's exciting. So

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that's what we got. Let's get into what we've got
for tonight. I'm gonna do something a little different. Our
main story tonight is going to be the Highgate Vampire,
which I think is a fascinating story. But you guys
have sent us a listener stories and sometimes we read
them on the air. And it's no secret that when
I read a story on the air and try to
read a word for word, it definitely comes across like

(13:54):
I'm reading a story word for word and doesn't usually
come out as well because I probably screw up a
bunch of times. We know I'm not going to edit
that out. So there you go. What I decided to do.
We got a cool story, and I thought, what if
I took your stories and did it like I do
the regular stories, just kind of put it in my
own words and tell it kind of a dramatic way,

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and that's what we're going to do tonight. I got
a story from Brian in Ohio, and I want to
tell his story like we would one of our stories.
And I got a feeling that you probably, if I
hadn't told you it's a listener story, you probably wouldn't
know any difference between that one of our regular stories.
So the other thing we've got is I was on
a podcast comedy podcast from some friends of mine in

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Louisville called About Time Shawn Smith, Patrick Passifume, and during
the midst of doing that show, I told the story
that I've told several times about my mom and Sean,
the host, had a story that was pretty awesome, and
I thought it would be awesome to have him come
on and tell us that story. So he's going to

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be on a little later in the show to tell
us his paranormal story, which I think you guys will
also find fascinating.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
All right, so let's jump into this. We're going to
start with the Highgate Vampire. I'm assuming you know nothing
about this. I don't, okay, I said we should just
start every show. I'm assuming you know.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
You don't even need to say it, because I think
our listeners know, I don't know us or have a clue.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
So the Highgate Vampire, the Highgate Cemetery is where all
this takes place. The Highgate Cemetery was actually started in
London in eighteen thirty nine. They had a lot of
famous people buried there. Karl Marx, most of you know,
he kind of the gout started Communism. He wrote the
book in Communism. He was buried there. Uh, there's a
guy named Jerry Elliott who is an author. He was

(15:39):
buried there. Christina Rosette, she's a poet. She was buried there.
Now they're not really famous to me, but at the
time they were famous over there. Right, This place was
known because it's got beautiful greenery everywhere, it's got winding
pass that kind of go around through the cemetery, and
these just the looks of it alone brought a lot
of visitors in there through the eighteen hundreds, so it

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was the place to be as far as cemeteries. I mean,
obviously you didn't want to be there, well, no, not
for real visiting. You didn't mind me in there, But
by the early nineteen hundreds it was over full with bodies.
I don't know, I don't know how this happens. I mean,
at some point in time, do you not have a
game plan in a graveyard that says.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
They stack them on top of each other. I mean,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So when Germany actually bombed London during World War Two,
several of the vaults were destroyed, cracked open, that type
of thing. By the nineteen sixties, the cemetery was in
such bad shape that it was pretty much viewed as
an ice sore. So now this beautiful relict, basically at
one time now is an iceore. The surrounding neighborhoods also

(16:44):
kind of took a turn for the worst. They were
kind of became poor, kind of in disarray, and that
didn't definitely didn't help the cemetery any because nobody's going
to put the money to upkeep a cemetery in the
neighborhoods that are bad too. Oh the neighborhood was bad, yeah,
going they started kind of I guess on a part
and that stuff, you know, And so what happens is

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soon it became a hangout. Obviously, she would think for runaways, vandals,
drug addicts, that type of thing, people who just really
wouldn't just people who were just looking for a place
to hang out do whatever illegal they wanted without being caught. Now,
about the nineteen seventies, trespassers were regularly sneaking into the
cemetery at nighttime. And obviously when you start having a

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bunch of people sneaking in at nighttime and the cemeteries,
it doesn't take long before rumors of satanism and occult
activity kind of started spreading around.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, I was gonna say, who the heck wants to
sneak into a cemetery.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
There was one elderly woman she was visiting back in
the seventies, and she was visiting a relative there and
she said that she was followed on five separate occasions
by what she called quote unquote odd people. She said
they never said a word, but she believed they were
conducting some kind of strange ceremonies, were talk tod They

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just follow her and it was five different times.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I wouldn't like, yeah, somebody's behind us, don't say a word.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
So they started having all this destruction in the cemetery,
and uh, it kind of became an interest to the
local authorities who wanted to crack down on the vandals
and stuff. So now that now they're starting to pay attention.
Vandals had been breaking open coffins. They just kind of
smashed them apart.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
That is sick. That is sick.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
One vault was wide open and you could see the
skeleton that had been pulled from the coffin. Another vault
that was on the main pathway pathway, the main pathway
that was like it is in England, so along the
main pathway.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
And that where you came from.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, they don't coffin out that where I came from
came from. But this this vault long the main pathway,
they had a coffin that had even been set on fire.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Right, oh, people get on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So authorities tried their best to kind of crack down
on vandals and the trespassing, but the residents around the
cemetery they weren't one hundred percent sure that this damage
was being done by people or vandals. What well, they
said that there had been sightings of a shadow type
figure in Highgate Cemetery and these reports actually started getting

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called into places. And this was even before this went
back a couple of years before the crackdown of trying
to find out what was going on the British Occult
Society received two calls from separate people that said that
they saw a tall shadow figure that briefly paralyzed them,
like it just like looked at them, and when it
looked at them, they were paralyzed. Now, before we move on,

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we're going to discuss two very important people that are
going to hold a very big part in the rest
of our story. And these two people were going to
kind of be forever linked to Highgate Cemetery in the
Highgate Vampire. First we got David Farrant and then we've
got Sean Manchester. These men are the chief voices for

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the rest of our story. That's where most of what
we're going to talk about comes from them guys. Right now,
both of these guys had definite interest in the occult,
no way of fans or butts. The first was David Farrant,
and David Farrant was a Wiccan and a mystic, but
he also founded the British Psychic and Occult Society. And

(20:35):
it's going to sound a lot like the next group
we talk about because Shawn Manchester, he was actually a
vampire hunter who was president of the before mentioned British
Occult society. So you got the British psychic and occult
society and then just a British occult society. And that
might seem like very similar, but as you're going to

(20:56):
find going forward, these guys did a lot of stuff
that was very similar. So December twenty first, nineteen sixty nine,
David frant decided that he was going to spend the
night at Highgate. He wanted to either confirm or debunk
the whole sightings of this tall, shadowy figure. And he said,
when he got to the gates, he saw a very
tall person wandering around inside the cemetery. Now, as he

(21:17):
got closer, he said, this person was at least seven
foot tall. It had two eyes on top of an
inhuman shape.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Oh, was he transparent?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, he didn't say he was transparent. You know, turning
your head and coughing, doesn't I know?

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Sorry, y'all, my throat was really sore. I'm not even
sounding like my own self. But I didn't mean to
cough in your ear.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Sorry. So Farrett was scared to death. After he's seen this,
he turned around, and then he said he turned back
and when he did, the figure was gone. Now, Farrant
because he was so caught up in this he wrote
a letter to the local newspaper and he asked anybody
in the paper to come forward with they had any
unusual experiences in the area. Well, much to his surprise,

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several people responded, most of that they had seen a
very tall ghost that had been appearing from several years back.
Others reported a tall man with a hat that walked
across Swain's Lane. That's like a street that kind of
runs right through the middle of the cemetery. And then
but the guy would walk across that path, but then

(22:24):
he would disappear into one of the walls of like
the cemetery. He would just disappear into the wall.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Dang, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And then some people would say that that you could
actually hear a church bell. You could hear a church
bell that's in the little chapel. That was the church
bell would ring during the time that he was walking.
Really so, not long after this letter they found the
remains of some foxes and some other animals near the

(22:54):
entrance of Highgate, and they were all drained of blood,
and the throats had like a slit on it where
the blood had been drained from it.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
The reports of the animals, plus the figures that people
were seen in the cemetery led to the belief that
Highgate had a vampire sewn. Manchester said that it was
a royal vampire. He told the local paper that the
shadow figure was actually the King Vampire of the Undead
from Wallachia. No clue what Lachia is, but that's where

(23:30):
he said it was from. He believed that he was
once a medieval noblesman who practiced black magic, and his
followers actually used a coffin to smuggle him into England
in the eighteenth century. He eventually came to rest right
there in the Highgate cemetery until someone conjured him up
from his sleep with some kind of a black magic spell.
How he knows all this, have no clue, Yeah, but

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that was his belief. But that is how the Highgate
vampire legend began. Now the public obviously they ate all
this up. Farrant and Manchester were both feeding in this
whole frenzy deal going on, but also became very combative
towards each other in the paper. So at one time
they never were like teammates, but they were both kind

(24:14):
of on the same side anyway. Saying the same thing
enjoint interviews. One time with the ITV News, they dared
each other to have a vampire hunt in Highgate Cemetery
on Friday the thirteenth. Journalists, crews, onlookers, and I guess
some would be vampire hunters all lined the cemetery gates.

(24:34):
Police did their best to kind of contain the crowd
of would be vampire hunters. Obviously, you could see that's
not something they really want to have happened. As a
bunch people run around the cemetery looking for vampires.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
How do you know it's a vampire? How do you
know what it's a vampire?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't know. I guess they're just speculating by the
same old things that everybody else does. That you know,
how you know where they're at and what they're you know,
It's just I don't know the rules of a vampire
because they don't exist anyways.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
They don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
The Twilight stuff was just bs. That's not real. It's
not real. But they kind of overpowered the police. They
all jumped the gates and ran into the cemetery. I
know this is gonna be a big shock to people,
but no vampire was actually found that night, but there
were there were some people that said that they saw
shadow figures lurking around. Now how truely that is, who knows,

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but that's what the story is. Farrant and Manchester both
confirmed that they hated each other moretheless, no dang, but
they both continued their paranormal investigations in Highgate throughout the
whole seventies. Farrant was actually arrested one night after police
found him at the cemetery with a crucifix and a

(25:48):
wooden stake.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Oh my gosh, she was so into this.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, you know what's funny about that is he's the
guy that was the wicked and the mystic and Manchester
was actually the vampire hunter. So obviously the relationship between
Farrant and Manchester continue to get worse. Both called the
others fraud. They were times when they dared each other.
This is actually funny because this makes you think about

(26:13):
back like in the wild West days, they actually talked
about doing a duel to the death. And I'll talk
a little bit about that a little later. But Manchester
actually wrote a book on his own account called The
Highgate Vampire. Farrant to not be undone wrote beyond the
Highgate Vampire. Highgate Cemetery actually benefited from all this though,

(26:36):
because in nineteen seventy five the Friends of the Highgate
Cemetery Trust was established and by nineteen eighty one the
trust actually bought both sides of the cemetery because there
was an east side and the West side. Now, as
as far as today, you can only access the West
cemetery by an hour long tour that you had to
pay for, but that also gets you into the east side.

(26:58):
You can get into the East side on your own,
do like a guided tour where you can just walk
around in your own But either way, either tour you take,
you got to buy a ticket to get into. So no,
you can't just go to that cemetery without purchasing a
ticket to get In November second, nineteen sixty eight, there
was an act of vandalism in London's Tottenham Park Cemetery.

(27:19):
Now this is going to kind of tie in, because
remember this was nineteen seventy when most of this was happening.
Now this happened in nineteen sixty eight. Whoever it was
that broke in. They arranged flowers in a circular pattern
that they had taken from other graves. Now they've made
arrows out of the flowers too, pointing to a new grave.

(27:40):
It was freshly, you know, dug it wasn't It was uncovered,
so there's no dirt on top of it. There was
a coffin and it was open, and the body had
been disturbed.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
And why didn't they cover it?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Why didn't they? What do you mean, Well, that's the
whole port of being vandals. They're not gonna come in
there and do good shit.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
No no, no, I mean you said that the hole
was uncovered.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Right, The vandals might have uncovered it.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
I don't know, but there was dirt on there before previously.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I don't know that. I just know there's a casket
there and there's no dirt.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
I just I cannot, for the life of me, figure
out why anybody wants to get in a casket and
remove a body.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, that's it. They didn't remove this one. They had
actually driven an iron steak that was in the shape
of a cross into the chest of the body from
the top of the casket.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Okay, they know this person's dead already.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe if it's a vampirest there come back to life.
What part of vampire do you not understand.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
I get that part, but how do well, I guess
you said it was a fresh I don't know. I
don't know how they determine which grave to open or
which whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's a good question, and I probably should have researched that,
but I didn't know. Well, some of it I do know,
and we'll get into in the world. Farren never claimed
that it's an empire. He kind of thought that this
whole creature was a ghost or respector, which is kind
of funny when you think about it, because he's the
one that actually got caught with the stake and the crucifix.
So if you don't think it was a vampire again, yeah.

(29:05):
The Manchester later wrote in his book that on the
evening of Friday the thirteenth, that he and a few
other people snook into the cemetery from an adjoining churchyard.
Now this was the night that everybody went there, and
it didn't pain didn't find nothing. He said, they tried
to open the door to a catacomb. Which catacomb is
basically like it's like a big vault that would have

(29:28):
several bodies at it, you know what I'm saying. So
it's not just like a one little tomb. It's like, yeah,
you know. So he tried to open up the door
to get in this catacomb that a psychic sleepwalking girl
had previously led him to. So the answer to your
question is how do they know where to go? He says,
this psychic girl earlier, at some other time led him

(29:49):
and said that's where something was anyway, So that's that's
what they were based on.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
I would love to see their face if that really happened,
Like if they went to do that and that person
wow jumped up at him and stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, they couldn't even budge the door. So what they
did was they used a rope to climb down into
the hole of the roof where there was already a
previous hole. Where they climbed down where they found several
empty coffins. They put garlic and each one of them
spriingled holy water around them, and there you go. On
August first, nineteen seventy, they found a burnt person at

(30:25):
the Highgate Cemetery. It was a it was a headless.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Body, oh lord.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And the body had been burnt obviously to the point
where police kind of thought that it was something that
had been used in.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
A black magic well was he was headless?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I think it was a woman, so it was a
she wondered why she was headless. I don't know. I
did a Garthbrook song headless.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Here for all the world to speek.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
But she was actually found right there by that same catacomb.
Oh wow, he was searching in.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
That's sad.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right after this is when Faren was actually arrested for
having the crucifix and all that out there. And by
the way, that actually after being arrested, it kind of
went to court and the charges were dropped, so nothing
actually even came with that.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
I mean, I guess they couldn't. Well, I mean, what
can they do.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I don't know. I mean, you can't. I'm trespassing it
pretty much all it could be.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So a few days after that, Manchester came back to
the Highgate in the daytime when visitors were actually allowed,
so you could come in a daytime. This time he
said that his buddy had succeeded in actually forcing open
a door of a family vault that was actually another
vault that this female told him to go to. He

(31:43):
lifted the lid off of one of these caskets. He
believed that that was the coffin that had somehow been
transferred from the vault they were at before to this vault,
so somehow know that he thinks it went from one
to the other. And he said that he was about
to drive a steak through the body that was in

(32:04):
the coffin when one of his colleagues kind of talked
him out of it, and instead he put garlic an
incense in the in the tomb and they pretty much.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Left, Oh my gosh, what a creepster come walking around
creeping up on people. When the caskets in Manchester.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He also claims that three years later he found a
vampire corpse, as was his term of doing it, that's
he was. He kind of implied that it was the
same one that he was looking for out there, and
he was actually in the basement of an empty house
in the Highgate area. He did he said, he did
drive a stake through it and then he burnt the body.

(32:42):
So I mean, first of all, he could be a
crackpot in just lying, which a lot of people assume
that's all he's doing. Yeah, but that's what he says
he does. So these guys were definitely unique, without a doubt,
him and Manchester and UH and F were definitely unique
of the duel I was telling you about that was
supposed to happen Parliament Hill on Friday the thirteenth, nineteen
seventy three. It never happened.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
It didn't nobody showed.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, it didn't happen. This will be some kind of
a magician's duel. I don't know what that would have consisted. Now.
Farran was actually put in jail in nineteen seventy four
for damaging memorials and interfering with dead remains in the
Highgate Cemetery. These guys just couldn't stay away from that cemetery. Now,
he pretty much insisted that it was vandals that did that,
and a Satanists had done it, that created the vandalism,

(33:27):
and it had nothing to do with him. It was
all Satanists. Manchester and Farran still hate each other to
this day. They're both still alive and both claim to
be exorcists, both research paranormal and both try to discredit
each other and saying what they talked about each one,
like Farren says that whatever Manchester is saying about the

(33:49):
Highgate is bullshit and vice versa.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
We should get him on the show.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, we should do that, and they probably would both
come on the show and.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Just yell at each other sort of like had Phil McCoy.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Right, So that is the story of the Highgate Vampire.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Dang, that's crazy, and all that time he never found one.
Dang vampire.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
No, But you know there's still people now, there's some
recent sightings that if you go on Google you can look.
I didn't about to give them any credit, but there's
people now in the last year and a half two
years saying that there's more sightings of the Highgate Vampire.
But my guess is just trying to drum.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Up some more some more business, some more businessmen. Wow.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So I thought what we would do is I wanted
to kind of get into our creepy fact of the day.
This is actually really disturbing. I don't know, this is
actually more disturbing to most of these I look up.
Did you know that if a bear attacks you, unlike
other animals, it won't kill you. It just starts eating,

(34:50):
where most of the other animals like that they kill
their prey and then they eat a bear dust.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
That is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
But you know that goes back to a story I
think we talked about I can't remember we talked about
on the show or if it was something I posted
on the page, but it talked about the woman that
was being eating, eating alive by the bear, and she
actually was able to call her mom two or three
times while her uh that, while the mom and the
cubs were actually feeding on her.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Oh my gosh, that is awful, mommy, or eating me mom?
Oh my god, they just say my eyeball.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Mom, would you like to give her a bear hug?

Speaker 5 (35:28):
That's see.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
She actually was calling talking about her last phone call,
said something about it. Doesn't you know it's gonna be okay,
it doesn't hurt anymore. Something, shut up. It's very disgusting.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Oh that poor thing. Why didn't she videotape it?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
She obviously had, well, they had cell phones back then.
We know that she caught her mom.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
She gotta shared it with the world. That is gross.
I would not want to say that. That is really
that's really, really really sad.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Okay, So what I want to do now is I
said it was sad.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I know one. I agreed, and there's nothing I could
do about it. Oh my god, it's not going to
bring her. She was barely clinging to life.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
You're so mean. Oh my god. So she just, I guess,
stayed on the phone with her mom until she just
wasn't there no more.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I think she caught a couple of times. I think
she actually hung up and called back.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
So that makes me like gross out, I'm sure it does.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Anyways, pay So let's go on to Uh, I want
to tell Brian's story. What is what I want to
tell Brian's story. Brian's story is the one that I
told you that he's the listener that wrote in, and
I decided to do this like a regular story. Oh,
we've never done this before, so let's give this a shot.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
All, don't mess up.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, and and Brian actually has uh he never told
the story to anybody, That's what he said, or he's
rarely told this story. And I thought it would be
pretty cool. So here we go. Nineteen eighties. This is
when this goes back to. This was back when AOL
obviously and chat rooms were huge. Oh yeah, that's that
was the start of all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Best years ever.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
And then kids, I think that was the nineties. Yeah no, no,
internet wasn't around an eighties, but I know I'm.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Just saying that eighties were the best years ever.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
What does that have to do with this story? Not like, oh, okay,
I did say nineteen eighties, okay, okay, all right. So
this is late late nineteen eighties, and so Brian's on
AOL chat rooms, right, and he meets this girl and
they kind of hit it off, and they kind of
start dating for a couple of weeks, right, And during
this time of them dating, he finds out that she's

(37:36):
really into wicca and ghosts, And none of this came
up before during the.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yeah, well you know, you don't want to put that
out there.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
At first, right, understandable, And he still didn't really know
how all this would come into play until they had
a really strange occurrence one night at her house. So
they're at her house, they have dinner, and her kids
and I'm not sure if it's his kids are and
her kids are just her kids, but her kids were
gonna go spend some time with their friends. So they

(38:03):
went upstairs, I guess get ready, they come down, they leave. Well,
shortly after that, he hears a noise upstairs like something
had fallen, right, and he goes upstairs to check it out.
Just to see, you know, what the hell's going on
up here. So he checked the bathroom first, nothing. Then
he goes to the bedroom and he didn't see anything

(38:24):
back there. They were the back bedrooms. As he's coming
back down stairs, he's got to walk past back to
the bathroom again. Well, now the bathroom he just walked past,
they've got the sink is blasting hot water, so much
so that the whole room is steamed up. And obviously
he's confused by all this stuff, so he says, hey,
I'm gonna still turn it off. He reaches over, he

(38:45):
turns the water off, and in the midst of this,
somehow know that he burns his hand.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I don't know if it was from the water from
the faucet and hot, but he burns his hand. He
goes downstairs to get his girlfriend to kind of doctor
his hand up a little bit. I don't know if
they're using a halo or butter or whatever, because I'm
sure you'll ask me, what did he use gaus or
I don't know. I don't know ointment I don't know
if it was boring.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I have no detail.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay, she could have had an alloy planter there. I
have no idea. So he goes downstairs. She's doctor in
his hand up and he says, you know, hey, I'm upstairs,
and then he tells her the whole the details of
hot water and it's steaming, and she's not face. Oh,
she's just a matter of fact that He says, oh, yeah,
that happened night. Oh dang, every night, right, And she says, well,

(39:32):
not only that.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Well he could have she could have warned him.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Well he didn't. She didn't know, I guess, so he said.
She says, not only that, but I wake up every
single night and find this person or a thing sitting
near the foot of my.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Bed, the same the same thing.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
This whatever. I guess it's whatever, it's in it and uh,
she said, it's sitting at the edge of her bed
and Brian just kind of laughs, sit off a little bit,
and she says no seriously. So Brian does the ever
popular thing of challenge the entity. That's always a fun
game to play, oh geez, and he, you know, he

(40:11):
does the hey, come after me and leave her alone,
to which his girlfriend said that was like the least
most brilliant thing you could have done, because she knows
about this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Brian Lee's goes home and he walks into the house
and as soon as he walks in, he said, it's
like he steps into a circle of darkness. He said,
It's just almost like he said, think about like a
police light that would be shining down on you, but
instead of light, it's dark. He said, yeah, he said.
He walks over to the window to kind of see
what could be blocking the light, and he didn't see anything,

(40:43):
nothing that they would have been doing that. He starts
to walk away from the window and a stereo just
starts blasting music. Now that would be bad enough, but
this stereo is unplugged and it was broken to begin with.
Oh oh, so he figures out how to eventually had
to turn this thing off. He decides, I'm going to

(41:05):
the kitchen. I'm going to get a drink. On his
way to the kitchen, he's still pissed off about the
whole thing, and obviously not learning his lesson, he challenged
the entity again and at that time, a fan that
was in the window flew out as if it had
been thrown and just barely missed it.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
I wonder I turned the radio off.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I don't know, I was thinking the same thing, though,
Oh yeah, I probably should have asked These are one
of the questions I actually could have asked him for answer,
because he couldn't have unplugged it, right, you know, So
I don't know anyway, So Brian decides, look, I'm gonna
go to bed. We're just gonna end this horrible night,
and we're gonna get up in the morning and start over. Well,

(41:44):
the next morning, he gets awakened by a phone. I
still is it awaken or awoken? Awoke or awoke? He
got up, Yeah, the phone woke him up. It was
his girlfriend, or as we'll call her now, his ex girlfriend.
She was ranting and raving about how she never wanted

(42:05):
to see him again. Brian eventually got her calm down
to the point where he's like, what is the issue?
What are you so pissed about? And she said that
she found her guard dog. This is a dog that
nobody could go near except for her, hanging from a
tree in her backyard. Oh, Brian tells her, Hey, it

(42:26):
was probably a neighbor, and she explained, oh my gosh,
that's not only was the dog hanging from the limb,
it was hanging from the tallest limb on the tree.
What yep, Oh my gosh. She was able to finally
get him down, and when she did, it had bites
and chunks out of its ear and at its back.

(42:47):
Oh my gosh. And that was the last Brian I
actually heard of her.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Oh that's not a good ending.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Well I can't. Real life stuff doesn't always have good endings.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Well I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I mean what he's supposed to say. She took it
to the pet cemetery and it came back perfect. That
didn't end well either. Did you see the movie?

Speaker 5 (43:07):
I did see the movie. That's really that's really bad,
poor buppy.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
So what do you think that that's come across like
one of the regular stories?

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Yeah, that is that creepy. So after I guess then
after she was gone out of his life, nothing else
happened to him anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh no, that's a good question. Actually he had another
awesome story. But rather than to read that, I'm actually
going to bring you on in a couple weeks and
tell this.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Oh man, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, because it's actually a phenomenal story. It's different than
anything I've ever heard.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
I can't imagine. He must have been freaking out.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Well, I can't think of a better time to jump
into our joke of the day. Oh God, was that?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
What is?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
But that it's a pleasant joke, okay. Anyway, So this
is the joke of the day. You've got a mom
and her daughter. They're sitting in church and a little
girl is feeling really upset at her stomach and she
looks at her mom and says, I need to go
to the bathroom. And her mom's like, no, church is
going on, you need to sit down and be still.

(44:06):
And the little girl's like, no, I think I'm gonna
throw up, And the mom said, Okay, go out back now,
go to the doors, go around the back of the church,
and there's a bush out there. Go out there and
do it. So she gets up, she goes out, and
she comes back and like literally sixty seconds later, and
her mom's like, how in the world did you go

(44:27):
all the way around to the back of the church
and get back in sixty seconds. She said, Oh, I
didn't have to go allway out there. She said, I
went to the front doors and I noticed there was
a box there that said for the sick. All right,
just a little quick reminder that if you want to
support us on Patreon. You can actually go to our

(44:49):
website and the button is right there so you can
click on that. You can also get T shirts there.
We sold a bunch of T shirts at Scarefest. Thank
you guys for a.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Snatching out so great.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Probably soon down the road, we'll probably come up with
a more fuller type store that'll have mugs and different
types of shirts and all that stuff. So I'm working
on that as we speak. As people have a little
more of an interest in some other things from us,
which we greatly appreciate. It's got me looking a little
deeper into it. So give us a little bit of time,
we'll come up with something.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Yeah, we will.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Now what I want to do is go ahead, And
I told you earlier on the show that we had
Sean was going to come on and tell his story
from About Time podcast. So I'm gonna go ahead and
play that for you now, all right, I got a
special guest on the line here. We've got Sean Smith,
and Sean is actually a comedian friend of mine from
back in Louisville. Him and another friend of mine, Patrick Passafum,

(45:42):
do a podcast called About Time. They were nice enough
to have me on the show this past week and
had a great time. It's been a long time since
I've been able to sit in and do any kind
of a comedy podcast. So I want to thank you
guys for having me on. But during the course of
this podcast, Sean, you actually told a story that I

(46:03):
thought was really good and I wanted to bring you
on the show and have you tell that story. But
before we get into that, tell me the audience out
there a little bit about you and what you and
Patrick do on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm telling and I'm a comedian and
I also work in two elementary schools. So that's enough
comedy for me right there. And I've been doing comedy
for it. This is my eleventh year doing comedy, so
kind of do something different and a little different way

(46:37):
to be creative. Me and one of my friends in comedy, Patrick,
we started doing a podcast called About Time and About
Time is It's a comedy podcast. It's got some sketch
and some character stuff. We always ask ten questions and
then after ten questions, we just kind of see where
it goes. We see if something funny hits us, we'll

(46:59):
go into it, and if not, then we'll just keep
it at the ten Questions, but usually we go off
and do our own kind of thing, and every episode
is definitely not the same. So it's fun. And it's
just supposed to be like a light podcast to kind
of be the fun part of everybody's week. So yeah,

(47:20):
it's fun, it's fun to do. We've been doing it.
I guess this is episode seventy eight or seventy nine
that we're about to come up on, so we've been
doing it for a little over a year. And yeah,
that's about it.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, I will say you're one hundred percent correct. And
the fact of having a flow to the show that
kind of you never really know what direction it really
is going to go in. I know when we did
the ten Questions, I mean I think it took like
forty five minutes to do the ten questions, So it's
not a yea fast thing because you know, we went
in several different directions. And you know, that's what actually

(47:54):
made it fun because you guys are both really good
at ad living, so the at least the something that
subject that you wouldn't even think would be funny somehow
turns into a funny topic. So I think that's the
beauty of what y'all do.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, I think the ten questions usually ends up leading
what would be a normal interview kind of standard for
you know, how's your day or how'd you get into
comedy or those questions that everybody asked. We wanted to
do just kind of goofball questions and just kind of
to know a little deeper stuff about the people that
we interview that you don't usually get to do. And

(48:30):
then within that sometimes we strike a nerve or strike
something that's a little bit off kills and we can
kind of stay there and poke at it and we
don't have to. I mean, the time constraints are our own.
We don't want it to be it forever. Episode. The
episodes are usually about an hour and a half, and
you know, we just wanted to be able to go
wherever it takes us and not be a slave to format,

(48:53):
but also recognize the strength and having a format. So yeah,
it's a fun time and that's what it's designed to be.
Is we just wanted to be fun. Man. Everything's so
heavy these days, and you know, I will say for
everybody out there, it isn't there is some foul language.
If that is offensive to you or not. But it's
never to the point of being it's not for a
purpose of being offensive. I'll say that it's just two

(49:15):
guys just having fun, two comedians, and we've been doing
comedy both for about eleven years. So it's fun man,
It's all it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
You know what I mentioned on the show. And it's
funny because, like I really do remember Patrick his first
couple of times on stage when he was eighteen years old,
and I'm like, yeah, my goodness, I just it's so
amazing that how time flies to think about this. This
is a guy that's now, you know, he's married, he's
got a kid, he's moving on with his life and

(49:43):
doing this, and I'm like that I remember when he
was barely old enough to even get into the club
to be able.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
To perform, right, Yeah, that is funny. I didn't meet
him that early. I think when I met him he
at maybe at twenty three or something like that, twenty
twenty one. But yeah, it's funny because we've done a
lot of different things together, as far as we've gone
to Second City and taking classes together in Chicago, and

(50:09):
we've done a lot of different comedy shows throughout and
it's kind of been a natural form. I mean, even
just normal shows, we would always get together and kind
of laugh to ourselves in the corner. But now we
get to do that for the world, so it works out.
But yeah, he's a really funny dude. He's a guy
who can take a concept and go like extra to

(50:32):
the extra limit. I won't say too far, but close
to too far a lot of times. But that's my guy. Man. Yeah,
he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You could tell sitting in the studio, and it comes
across through the show, But sitting in the studio, you
can tell you guys really have a good time interacting
with each other, like yeah, Like I mean, obviously if
the microphones wouldn't on, you would still be laughing at
each other doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah we are. I'm trying to think of
like if you remember in like high school, if there
were like two guys that were always laughing. You never
knew what they were laughing about, but they would always
just be in the hallway when class was going on
and just like making each other laugh. That's pretty much
where we are right now, is those two guys that

(51:17):
just we haven't made it to class on time because
we've been too busy making each other laugh. I think
he's one of the funniest people I know, and I
think he might feel the same. It's hard to say.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I think he feels that way. He probably feels like
he's one of the funniest people you know.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Probably. Yeah, man, he's ridiculous. He's ridiculous. But that's one
of my best friends. Man. I really like the guy.
He's very funny.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I wish he could have been on today, but he
had some previous engagement I know.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, he's taking master's classes doing something, so yeah, he
wouldn't be able to come.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
But I mean, I don't understand this. I don't understand
this going to college stuff, trying to build a career
to make you know, eighty ninety one thousand dollars when
you can make hundreds of dollars a week being a comedian.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
It just the way.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Hey, Sean, you know something we don't you guys. You
guys have had some pretty big guests on the show too.
Tell us about a couple of guests you've had on.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, we've had Mike Kaplan, who is an upcoming comedian
who's he's had some comedy specials on Netflix, and he's
been on Comedy Central that was the most recent one.
We've also had Jay Farrow and he just has a
showtime show that I guess just started called White Famous,

(52:40):
which is a pretty funny show. I've watched a couple episodes,
so yeah, we've gotten lucky. It's usually they're in town
or we happen to be on the show with them,
and they're just kind enough to do the show with us.
Patrick actually has a pretty good relationship with Jay, so
that's how we got that one. Yeah, a lot of

(53:01):
times it's just people we know friends, or people that
we admire in comedy or improv sometimes and people we
just think we'll be able to have fun with. And
sometimes people were just curious about and don't know a
lot about and want to get him to be in
our playground, so to speak, so we can get to

(53:22):
know a little bit more about him. But yeah, it's
it's always a guest, and we always find some way
to have fun with our guests.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I'm about try to get Patrick get me hooked up
with Jay because he's actually one of my favorite comedians.
I'm infatuated with anybody that can do impressions and impersonation.
Oh yeah, and he's just so he amazes me at
what he's able to do.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
So that was one of the high parts of that
episode was we actually had an episode with Jay, who,
like you said, amazing phenomenal impressionist, and he and Patrick
did an impression off and Patrick is not good at impressions,
so it was a lot of fun and it was
face to face. I mean, you know, it was right
before a show and we just got to do for

(54:03):
around with him and another talented, commitedee in aj Foster,
and just kind of mess around with them, and it
was a good time. Man, we always have a good time,
but that was a really fun, kind of an important
show for us because it was one of the bigger
names that we've gotten.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I'm gonna bring it down for just a second because
in the last couple of days we actually lost the
comedian Ralphie May And I'm not sure if you have
a connection with Ralphie, but I know Patrick has actually
been on the same bill and opened up for Ralphie
and had nothing but kind things to say about how
much Ralphie actually taught him about the business. Have you

(54:40):
had any experiences with Ralphie I didn't.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I know a lot of people who did, And like
you said, everybody had nothing but really good things to
say about them. It's interesting, and I guess it kind
of speaks to comedy as a community. I mean, most
comedians are kind of different people. I mean, they're a
lot of them aren't nice people. A lot of them
aren't funny. I mean, the things that people would think

(55:04):
of as a comedian, this like class clown kind of
life of the party person is usually not the behavior
and the personalities that you meet. You need some really
unique personalities. And everybody had nothing but good things to
say about Ralphie, which is it stands out in the

(55:26):
comedy community because that's not usually the case for comedians,
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.
You're right, though, people people have a misconception that you
know a comedian, which and I'm one of the rare
breeds that I typically am on all the time. And
I don't mean that in a in a kind of
a pump myself way. I just mean that I laugh
and joke all the time no matter where I'm at. Yeah,

(55:52):
And but there's a lot of comedians that aren't like
that there's a lot of comedians that are really depressed
when they're not on stage. They're only happiness is on stage.
When people hear, you know, Robin Williams and and some
of these other comedians that actually commit suicide, it just
blows their mind that that somebody would do that because
they just picture them as being happy, go lucky clowns

(56:12):
all the time. But the reality is there's a lot
of comedians. I would say most comedians have a very
tragic past, and they use comedy as a kind of
a getaway, a scapegoat, so to speak, just to get
on with life. But when they're not on stage, they
have a very tough time. Now, Ralphie obviously his situation
was a medical condition because of his I don't assume

(56:34):
mainly because of his weight and what have you. But uh,
you know, but there's a lot of comedians out there,
like you said, they don't have the personality that those
people say that. A lot of them are loaners. You'll
see them at the club and they're off in a
corner by themselves.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
And these are some of the biggest names you'll ever see.
I mean, but like you said, the Robin Williams, Richard
Jenny Uh, you know, he committed suicide years ago. And
then you know, you hear you hear about some of
these people just just amazes you how tragic it are.
The Chris Farley's and the John Belushi's and you know, yeah,
they just they just weren't happy people. And that I

(57:07):
don't think they start out and intend on being mean people.
They're just not happy people. And if you're not happy
and you're used to putting on a show for people,
when you're not putting on that show, you don't want
to even be bothered by people, right.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yeah, absolutely. And it's interesting because for me, I mean,
like I said, I work in elementary school and working
in that field, and people find out that I'm a comedian.
A lot of times people are like, well, you don't
even you don't even seem funny, you don't look funny,
you don't I mean, you know, you seem pretty quiet
or whatever. I mean, you know, I think it's the

(57:42):
power of performance, the power of the microphone. It creates
a different persona. It's different. I mean, it's it's one
of those things that unless you've ever done it or
been around it, it's really hard to explain because I
think people can grasp and understand the difference, but it's
just a different experience. And so that expectation of, you know,

(58:02):
you have to always be on exhausting, and that that
expectation of oh, you're a comedian, tell me a joke
like no, no, I'm not no, Like I would much
rather not do that, because it's like asking a painter
to paint without a canvas. Like you, the stage and
the microphone are important and in part of being a comedian,

(58:27):
and to remove that is to remove the context. So
it's it's different, man, and it's it's fun, it's a challenge,
and I love doing comedy, but sometimes, you you know,
you also got to do different things, and that's where
the podcast comes in, to try to stretch and do
some different comedic ideas and not just the same old,

(58:49):
same old.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Well I'm gonna I'm gonna take a second to plug
my appearance on your podcast because it was a it
was a big deal to me. I mean, you know,
when you got guests, like some of the guests you've
had on there to ask me to be on there,
I was very much honored and I appreciate it and
it's the first podcast in probably five years that I
actually got to do with somebody face to face and
not over the phone because I just happen happen to

(59:11):
be in town. So that even made it more fun.
But it was a chance for me to cut loose.
You know, you've heard our show. I'm a very kind
of restrained comically. On our show, we throw a couple
of little quips out there, but for the most part,
it's we let the paranormal take the lead. But in
your show, I was able to just cut back and

(59:33):
we talked some paranormal. So if you guys after listening
like that part of we do we talk some paranormal
back and forth. But it was a chance for me
to just say some things that I typically can't say
on this show for a lack of offending people. And
you know, language was a little bit different, you know,
from you on that So for everybody who wants to
hear that side of me, you know, I suggested they

(59:55):
check out that episode about time.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Yeah, absolutely eight. Everybody who doesn't know, I mean, Jerry
did comedy for a very long time, and so you
guys will get a treat if you don't know that
side of them. It's definitely a fun episode and you
get to see it, so check it out now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Sean. During the course of your episode, you asked me
about paranormal personal paranormal experiences, and I told you a story,
which in tune, caused you to tell me a story.
And I thought the story was absolutely fascinating. It kind
of tied in a little bit to my story, which
I had never had anybody have a tie in that

(01:00:36):
was a similar and by tying, I mean it was
just a kind of a similar twist to the story.
And I thought it would be awesome if you came
on and told that story. So I'm just gonna turn
it over to you and let you tell your story.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Sure, okay, So we're gonna go back to when I
was seventeen years old and I am asleep in my bed.
This is three am in the morning, three something am
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
And that's always a bad time, by the way, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I've learned that later on in life that there
is a certain times I guess there are some people
refer to it as the witching hour, and then some
people just say there's a time where there's more spiritual
or ghostly awakenings that happen at certain times and other times.

(01:01:28):
I wasn't aware of that, but I am more aware
of that now. So I know. There was three something
in the morning, and I'm in bed and I wake
up fully awaken, and I'll get into that in a second.
I'm fully awake and at the edge of my bed
there's a figure that is has its back turned to me,

(01:01:52):
facing the wall, and I get scared and I go
to like move or scream, and I can't move. And
I'm sitting paralyzed watching this figure at the edge of
my bed, and then it sits down on my bed.
And as it sits down on my bed, I can
feel the weight of the bed pressed down and my

(01:02:15):
eyes shut tight and I can't open my eyes anymore,
and so I can't scream. I'm I'm paralyzed, can't move.
I've had some other people when I tell the story
that say that this was a sleep paralysis, but I
fully believe that I was awake, and a lot of

(01:02:38):
that being just because of you know, knowing sights, smells, sound,
I mean, being fully aware of what was going on
around me, which I guess could still be sleep paralysis,
but to my knowledge, and to my experience, I felt
like I was fully awake. So I'm awake, sitting down
on my edge of my bed is this figure. My

(01:02:59):
eyes are shut, I can't move. I feel the thing
on the edge of my bed get up. There is
a weight that releases from the bed. I can hear
the thing at the end of my bed move closer
to me. It's a slow move, and it moves over
to the side of me. I'm laying face up, and

(01:03:20):
I can feel this figure move right beside my face,
and at which point you can feel like as if
the heat from somebody else's faces right beside you, Like
if you put your hand beside your face, you can
kind of feel the heat from your hand, similar to that.
So I could feel the heat from this face next

(01:03:42):
to me and feel what felt like a light fan
or fanning, as if there's like a palm tree being
fanned onto me, or a palm from a palm tree
being fanned on me. So I can feel this fanning
on my face, and I start hearing a whisper from

(01:04:04):
the figure, and it was saying something like your birthday,
his birthday, of birthday, something about a birthday. Repeatedly, the
only thing that could stick out was birthday, and it
was whispered over and over and over. I start getting
feeling back into my hands and my arms, and I
ball up my fist with my right hand and I

(01:04:25):
swing left over top of me. My fist catches the
figure's face and then it pushes through the face. So
it would be like if you were to hit an
actual I almost want to say, like a catcher's mit
or something and it gets caught, or maybe a spider

(01:04:48):
web and it gets caught and then it pushes through
and then the figure disappears. So I get up. I'm
in a panic, and I go to my parents room,
knock on the door, and I let them know something
was in my room and I'm scared, and you know,
they talked to me and try to calm me down
and let me know, you know, I'm okay and whatever.

(01:05:09):
So I have to go to work the next morning.
When I go to work the next morning, I'm working
in produce, so I'm put putting up potatoes and tomatoes
and all those kind of things. My boss comes in
and he says, hey, Sean, can you come back here

(01:05:30):
for a second now. My boss normal seventeen year old
to twenty five year old boss relationship, which means there
really isn't any relationship other than how are you doing,
what's going on? You know, very basic kind of stuff.
So I go back there and he goes, hey, I
know this might be kind of weird, but God told

(01:05:52):
me that whatever you experienced last night, it's okay. And
I was like, what, what'd you say? He was like, yeah,
I know, man, it's probably weird, but did you experience
something last night? And I was like yeah, and he's like, well,
the good news is this, God told me that whatever
you experience, it's okay and don't worry about it. I

(01:06:13):
was like, all right, okay, So yeah, that's the the
first part of that story. The next part of it
was is that my parents have the same birthday, and
so we have this big kind of family reunion thing

(01:06:34):
that happens for my parents' birthday where both sides of
the family come that weekend. Is when it happened the
weekend after this event, and my brothers all come down
and oh, I forget, I forgot to mention. I always
forget to mention this part. At the time, Like before

(01:06:58):
the figure showed up, there's this noise that sounds like
silence is getting louder in your ears. It's like a whooooooo,
and it starts really quiet and it just gets louder
and louder and louder. So anyway, at this party, my
parents are like, hey, tell your brothers what happened to
you in the room. And I'm sheepish about it. I
don't want to say it because my brothers are older

(01:07:20):
and they make fun of me about everything, so they
want to share it. So my first brother, I was like, yeah,
so okay, I'm in the room and then I hear
this noise like whoohoohoo. He was like, oh, like yeah,
it starts getting louder and louder in your ear. Then
he's like, what are a second? Did you meet the
guy that's in the room. And I was like, what
are you talking about. He's like, yeah, like you couldn't

(01:07:40):
move in your paralyzed and I was like, oh, that
happened to you too. So then my older brother hears
it and he's like, yeah, like you can't move and
you can't like open your eyes, but you like can
feel the figure in the room and it's like talking
to you. So at that point we found out that
all of us had the same experience in that room,

(01:08:04):
or a similar experience, not the exact same, but a
similar experience where the silence gets louder and louder in
your ears, and then you can't move, and then there's
this figure in the room that interacts with you. So
then we all assumed that it was something specific to
that room until about seven to eight years later when

(01:08:25):
my niece experienced it in her room at my brother's house.
And she came into my brother's room and said that
there was a guy in the room and she couldn't
move or anything. And so she's been the last person
that's had the experience happened in my family.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Now, did you say she was in a different house, though.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Yes, she's in a different house. She was in my
brother's house.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Now, let me ask you this, when this happened to you,
was that brother still living at your house of time,
or had he already moved out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
He'd already moved out. So when it happened to us,
it didn't happen it was like the same day or
anything like that. And it happened, i'd say, maybe seven
years apart from each other. Honestly, when I think about it, well,
not between them. So we were all somewhere in between
fourteen and twenty three when it happened, So all of

(01:09:24):
my brothers were living in that room when it happened.
I was actually in the room with the brother closest
to me in age when it happened to him, but
I was like four, and he told me that after
it happened, he got in bed with me because he
was scared and didn't know what happened. I don't remember
the event, you know, at that age, I don't you know,

(01:09:46):
I have no It wasn't like it happened to me twice.
I just happened to be in the room, I guess
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
So I guess I'm trying to figure out what the
connection could be because at first, like you know, if
if your brother the one where your niece had it
at his house, if that brother had some kind of
an attachment to him and he was living at your
house at the same time you were live in your house,
that would kind of make sense that maybe it's an
attachment to him, which is why it moved from one

(01:10:14):
house to the other. But if he wouldn't live in
at your house, or any time that happened that wouldn't
make a connection either, right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
No, he wasn't living at that He wasn't living there
at that time, and when the brother closest to me
was living there, he might have been there then. So yeah,
I agree. I don't know if there is any kind
of one that is connected to a specific person, if
it's connected to the family, or it's not connected to

(01:10:44):
the room, which is what we all originally thought. So
we have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
That's crazy. Yeah, well, Sean, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna lie to you. I think that story is actually
one of the coolest stories that I've heard, which is uh.
And then, like I said, there was kind of a
time because in the story with my mom, I'm not
going to rehash it because most people have heard this
story already. But with my mom, somebody came to me
after the fact and started, you know, people I didn't know,

(01:11:10):
and just started telling me stuff that they should have known,
which was similar to you with your boss. I mean,
he just happened to cap to you talking about an
event that happened the night before. That's the two things
that are similar. And I had never heard anybody have
a story or part of a story that involved some
a complete well in your case, wasn't a stranger, but
it was somebody that didn't know anything that was going on.

(01:11:31):
It just happened to send a message to you, so
to speak right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Yeah, yeah, and at the right time too, because I
was freaked out. I do have a I guess a
witness for my boss telling me this because I was
working there with my best friend at the time, and
so then I had to come clean to my best
friend what had happened, because I was just going to
keep it to myself the whole day, like I was,

(01:11:55):
had no intent to tell him what was going on
at all. And since then, I've paid attention more to time.
I frequently see the number, the numbers three six together,
but at that time, I would always see the number
ten thirteen, and so people were telling me that like about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
There's like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Spirits or angels oftentimes will speak to people through time,
and that there's something to that. So I for a
while I was kind of looking at that. I wish
I could remember what I had found with that, But
at that time, especially when I was at work, a
lot of times, my friend would be around and every
time I would look at the clock, it would be

(01:12:40):
said at ten thirteen for whatever reason. So that was another,
I guess, potential thing that could have been connected to.
But again, I don't know. It's funny when you said,
it's one of the cooler stories you've ever heard. You've
heard it's so normalized to me at this point because
I'm been telling it for years, and you know, having

(01:13:03):
family who's experienced too, and we we've all just kind
of normalized it. So it's it's funny when you say that,
because it's like, oh, yeah, that, yeah, it is pretty
unique and cool. But it's just it's such a part
of our family at this point that I don't even
think of it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
It's funny that you talk about, you know, the numbers
speaking to you because I got some friends that swear
by that, but usually the numbers four twenty, So I
don't think it's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
But uh, hard to say. Hard to say.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
And Sean, you said, did this did this have an
effect on your spirituality?

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Absolutely? Yeah. At the time I was, I considered myself
to be an atheist and just not not a believer
and not not against others that believe, but I just
there was a time when I believed wholeheartedly, and then
I took it as experiment and said, what would happen

(01:14:01):
if I stopped praying and stop doing everything and the
world didn't explode when I stopped. So I was like, Oh,
God's not real and that was all I needed to
believe that. But then after this happened, it really did
kind of awaken that for me when I felt like
there was a there was an actual connection or there

(01:14:22):
was more going on than just the things that we
could see, and there is another level to life, I guess,
so to speak. And so it made me kind of
get more into church and trying to figure out what's
going on. Uh, if there's more going on, what is it?
What is it that I believe and and all of
those things involved. So it definitely started me back into

(01:14:47):
into finding out more about where I was spiritually and
what I believe spiritually. And now I'm you know, I'm
very involved in in church and and have still my
own my own thing. I mean, I think it's different
because another thing we talked about comedians earlier. There's a
lot of comedians who don't believe in God. I mean,

(01:15:09):
it's just that's just what it is, and that's fine.
But a lot of times I feel like I can
connect to them on that level because I've been there
before and I have that understanding. But I also have
an understanding of having this experience which is so unique
and so otherworldly that I mean, it's hard for me

(01:15:31):
to believe anything else. I guess just because of my
own experience.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Now, did you did you join a cult or anything
like that? Afterwards? No, No, I didn't think so, but
it would have made the story a lot more interesting. Sean,
it's been awesome having you on. Tell everybody how they
can find about Time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Sure About Time is on iTunes, iHeart Radio, and you
can also go on about Time dot libsen l I
B s y N dot com. And yeah, we're on
all of those platforms, some platforms that we don't even know.
Every once in a while, get an update from a
platform that I didn't even know I was on and

(01:16:15):
find out I'm on there. So the main ones iTunes
and lipsen, and you can also send us an email
at bout time podcast at gmail dot com. About Time
podcasts on iTunes, on Twitter, and on Facebook. So yeah,
check us out and let us know what you think,
and thanks Jerry, thanks for letting me come on and
tell me a story.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
There's no problem, man, I think everybody's gonna love your story.
If UH do me a favorite guys, go check out
the podcast, give them, give them a chance, see what
you think, and you know, if you like what you hear,
send them a message on Twitter and on Facebook and
and just let them know that you you heard about
them here and that you like the show.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
All right, Sean, thank you so much, brother, I appreciate it.
I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
I thanks day.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
So how cool was Sean's story?

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
That was really cool?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Very cool? Yeah. I thought that was a very interesting story.
And like I said, I really do think that's actually
one of the cooler stories that I heard when you
tie in all the different aspects from the boss knowing
what go on to find out that his brothers had
all experienced the same thing and his niece in a
totally different house.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
Yes, so wow cool. I don't that's so weird, especially
with the boss now the family. I don't know, and
maybe you could see that, but the boss coming and
saying that to him, Yeah, it was pretty cool that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
You do realize it's not Bruce Springsteen that's at that time.
It's like his boss like him.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
I don't like Bruce Springsteen at all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
We're going to end the show on that note. I
don't thank you guys so much before Tracy gets us
in trouble with the boss. Thank you guys so much
for listening. Thank you for a record number week. We
had a record number of listeners. And Ninja's excited as
hell about it, as you can hear every time we
talk numbers, he gets I know, he just like it
was like, oh my god. But we had a record
number of listeners. We have all kinds of people come

(01:18:06):
to scare Fest, we got the newspaper article. None of
this happens without you, guys. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
We love you guys. Hope you all have a great week.