November 26, 2025 • 28 mins
Jerry & Amanda discuss the last person to have been executed in California, Rattlesnake James.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hey, guys, welcome to episode three of Wickedly Weird with
Jerry and Amanda. Amanda, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm good. I have I have a story. I can't
go into too much detail, but all I need you
guys to do is go on my website and read
a story for me. Once you read it, like it'll
make sense. But it's really good. It's vocal dot Media.
You can find me under a dizzy and the story
(01:02):
is about a broken friendship. It's really super good and
you guys should read it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And where's what's the website again?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Vocal Media? Well, vocal dot Media.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, vocal dot Media.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, it's called huh vocal Media Media. Yeah, and it's
called her.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's really good, all right, so everybody go look it up.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep. So how was your week? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Uh? It was all right, it was right, nothing nothing major,
just getting some work done around the house and getting
ready for a couple of live events that we got
going on. So you know how that goes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't know how that goes, but it sounds busy.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep. All right, Well, Amanda, this is the day that
we're recording this. We actually is the same day that
we released our first episode, very very positive reviews so far.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I know I was digging it. I liked it. I
was like, oh, I even had a couple people message
via reach out via text message. I thought that was nice,
very nice.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, today we're going to cover the story of the
last man to ever be executed by hanging in the
state of California.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He is affectionately known as Rattlesnake. James.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think I know this one. Okay, tell me what.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I'm trying to purposely pick stuff that you don't know.
I don't thought this would be it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I might not know it. I might not know it.
I might be thinking of something similar. Okay. I had
full of conspiracy theories today, but we got to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Talk about one. This is true. Well, his nickname came
basically from one of the reasons that he was executed,
and we're going to cover that in just a bit.
But let's learn a little bit about our man, Rattlesnake.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Was that his real name was that his like birth
given name. Now I know, wish it was makes it
less cool. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He was born on March sixth, eighteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
His woman, I no, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I have no idea what the signs are other than
my own.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay neither did they.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Just change a bunch of them though, I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Don't know, and it makes me like, it makes me
sweaty when I think about it because I am in aries.
I wanted to say, I wanted to say now, but
they don't now, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
His real name his birth name was Raymond Lissenba s
E Nba listens.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's less and that's less cool.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
He would later be known by several aliases such as
Major Lisbie, Robert Sherwood Jones, and Robert S. James. He
apparently had a way with the women though.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He was a native of Alabama and he worked from
an early age in a cotton field. He was a
cotton picker. He would eventually go to barber school, and
this was thanks to his brother in law who actually
had a barber college and he let him attend for free. Now,
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Raymond was not a very intelligent man. He was often
described as less than half wit. He was never successful
in school, as you can pass, but his charm was
a different matter altogether. Like I said before, he had
away with the ladies.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, what year was this.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This was in well, he was born in eighteen ninety six,
so early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I bet you he was krawling with the syphilis.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Probably probably so everybody was back then. Yeah, all right,
So his little way with the ladies, as we said,
led to several marriages. Now, his first marriage was in
nineteen twenty one. He married a lady by the name
of maud duncan now get this. She ended up divorcing
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him on account that he demanded two kinky and sadistic sex.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Ugh ooh what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I mean the sadistic part. Obviously, he liked it
rough and she apparently didn't like it rough. The kinki.
There's no tellings what that could have involved, you know,
for back then, it could have been anything other than
missionary might have been considered kinky back then.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh no, it could have been like he likes banging
her in her weirdo long dress with all of her
stockings and legans and shit, or he like liked it
if she didn't wash them, something really weird, because you
know that was going on back then. They don't care,
they don't discriminate, just called something else.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, after this, somewhere between nineteen twenty four. Nineteen twenty five,
he changed his name to Robert S. James. With his
new identity, he decided to move to Kansas and he
married his second wife, but she left when Raymond was
basically threatened by a man who claimed that Raymond had
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impregnated his daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh no, no, that's terrible.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No news on what happened after that other than his
second wife, Leeman. Raymond then moved to North Dakota. He
was all over the place. He went from Alabama to
Kansas to North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
His mother passed away and left him a pretty large
amount of money from an insurance policy. This could have
been a good thing, but instead it actually fueled his
greed and introduced him to the world of insurance fraud.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
A felony baby.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This would lead him down a path of several murders
and eventually lead to his execution. Oh boy, you know
you're a bad person when you start using your family
members as a part of your life insurance scheme. That's
exactly what he did. Knowing the amount of money that
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he could make off of life insurance, he bought a
policy for his nephew and listed himself as the beneficiary. Now,
this was the sister and brother in law who put
him through barbera school. This was their son. About two
weeks after he purchased a life insurance policy, he tampered
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with his nephew's car, creating a circumstance that would lead
to his nephew's death. Yep, okay, that's exactly what happened
to He felt the plan was so full proof that
he even telegrammed his sister about her son's death before
the actual death took place.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That fucked up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh, he collected four grand out of it. That's a
lot of money. Back in nineteen twenty five.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
He was like a gazillionaire back then.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, I mean yes, because he'd already collected a bunch
of money from his mom. I don't know how much,
but now he gets four grand from this.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But now he's got that taste.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Agreed, Yes, and I went, I'm gonna tell you more
about that greed right after this, quick sponsor break, all right, Amanda.
In nineteen thirty two, he was abble to convince yet
another woman to join him in wedlock. This was his
third wife. Her name was Winona Wallace.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, though, you're gonna say, what a writer for a
sec even though I know that nothing to do with
the story. But really, quick question, when ye promoting silence,
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You won't It has to be put in afterwards. Oh okay,
just trust me on this one.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm gonna trust you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I don't even know what's going in there. It's just set.
So the company puts it in when they want to.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh, oh we're running Silence. Oh Jesus, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Now we're producing on the air, all right. So he
marries this one on the walls. He then convinces her
to take out a fourteen thousand dollars life.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Insurance policy red flag.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And list him as he's so beneficiary. I mean, this
wouldn't probably something that happened a lot back then, so
it might not been as much of a red flag.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
No, if I met a strange man that was like,
can you please take a life insurance policy out of you?
I would be like why?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But they were married at this point, so how strange
could he be?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, that's kind of a lot of money back then,
though it sure was. What if I was like, oh,
I'm only worth two dollars bud, like, no, that's two
dollars a lot back then too. You know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Whatever, Amanda, guess what happened on their honeymoon?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Killed there? He gave her a good killing, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He tried. He hit her in the head with a
hammer and then drove the car off of a cliff
with her in it. Oh, and he was able to
jump from the car right before it drove off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's not even that's a lie and everyone should question that.
And he's an idiot.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well here's a twist for you. When Ona survived what
but she gave no memory of the incident whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But then, how do we know this part of the story.
Is it a fabricated version?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, it's just eventually, when people get caught, they end
up telling you all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Imagine if it was just a wild ride of lies
and none of this is true.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Are you calling me a liar?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, not you, mister snake man. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So this meant no money for Raymond, so he decided
to plan a second attempt. He made it simple this time, though,
he just drowned her into bathtub. WHA was able to
convince authorities that it was an accident, and he collected
his fourteen grand.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That is that makes me sad for her.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Now he moves back to Alabama. He started an affair
with his niece, the daughter of the sister and the
brother in law who sent him to barber school. So
now he's killed their son and he's dating. They're eighteen
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year old daughter.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's gross Waiting, how old is he right now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He's like thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's even grosser because when I was eighteen, I thought
thirty eight year old were in nursing homes. So I
wish I could be in a nursing home some days.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm sure you do only get them just getting these
old men to sign insurance policies over to you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
She was a trained manicurists, which makes sense because her
dad onto barber college. He can. He convinced her to
move to Los Angeles and start a barbershop with him,
so they moved to LA wanted to have more insurance money.
He convinced her to marry him and become his fourth
wife slash niece.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So what wouldn't that baby come out all deformed?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh I'm sure it probably would. Now, to his surprise,
she would not take out a life insurance policy because
it required a medical exam and she hated medical exams.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He basically had no use for her now, so he
annulled the marriage.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh excellent.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Next next, early nineteen thirty five, he hired Mary. She
was a manicurist also, and he hired her to come
into the barber shop, which was probably awkward because this
is where his niece lover slash ex wife also was
a manicurist. Of course Mary would be you know, his
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next wife, but also his next and last victim. M
Of course they got married, and now planning her murder
was a bit more elaborate, because you know, he might
not have been very smart, but he was smart enough
to know that another dead wife and another insurance policy
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in the name would probably look suspicious.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But wait, no one's catching on. No one's catching on
to this, No.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
One's way has up yet. There's really only been two,
the brother in law and the h the wife that
he drowned.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So what a terrible way to go.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So first he decided to get Mary to take out
the life assurance policy, which she did. Now he just
needed her to die in a way that would not
incriminate him. Something looks like an accident. Mm hmm, Mary
actually died by drowning.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Can you do it? He did it?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, But when investigators started to dig up Raymond's history,
they got a little suspicious. He had basically five wives.
The third and the fifth both died for drowning. They
decided to go by the house and they bugged it
so they could see what was going.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Wait, how they bug it? How do you do that
back then?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean they had listening devices in the thirties. Nah ah,
it was not the Stone Age, Amanda, listen.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm thinking nineteen thirties. I'm thinking horse and carriage. I'm
not thinking cars. I'm still my horse and carriage.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Like they had cars in the thirties. There was not
horses and carriages in the thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What kind of cars would they drive?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Model T's and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I thought Model T's were like in the field.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I think that was like No, Model T's were like
nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh wait, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They had Fords and stuff in the thirties, and probably Dodges,
probably even Chevyes.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Never a Dodge again or a Chevy.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But okay, yeah, can I finish my story?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah? Sorry, I just have questions about this.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I understand, Well, they bugged the house, they heard several
sexual encounters with various women next, but usually usually his niece.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, it's worse.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Probably they probably wasn't til my whole bunch of times.
It was like torn Hub before there was born Hub.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, people is, oh, no, my brain's just taking a walk.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But you know how, they couldn't ever get al capone
on murder, so they end up arresting him on tax evasion. Yeah,
well this was enough for them to actually arrest him
for incest. And when the news broke, a guy named
Charles Hope, he actually came to the authorities with some
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strange info about our man. Hope said that Raymond had
come to him with an odd request. Raymond wanted a
couple of venomous rattlesnakes for a friend to commit murder
mere day. Hope got him the snakes for a large
sum of money, and he said he didn't care what
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the reason was for. He was just getting paid and
that was it. Raymond took the snakes. He drugged his
wife and put her foot inside of a box with
the two rattlesnakes. That's the snakes bit her on the foot,
and he waited for her to die, but hours passed
and she was still alive, and he got anxious and
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decided to drown Aer in a fish pond out in
the front yard.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
For all to see.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well, no, I'm sure there was like a farm or
something where he was on the person around.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
The autopsy had showed peculiar marks on her left toe,
but they were unable to discover what had caused the
marks based on Hope's testimony. They then took Raymond and
they booked him on first degree murder, but he of
course had a different story. Raymond claims that the idea
of murder actually came from Hope. Raymond says that he
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was just an accomplice, but during the trial it was
discovered that several attempts had actually been made to murder
Mary before the drowning, and a lot that actually took
her life. Raymond had even used black widow spie to poisoner,
but she survived at too, so he tried to come
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over with black widow spiders, and I guess then he went.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And got the snakes the kind of our surprises.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
On May sixth, nineteen thirty seven, both Hope and Raymond
were charged the first Green murder on June second, nineteen
thirty seven. Raymond was sentenced to one hundred and fifty
years in prison just for the incest. Hope pleaded guilty
in exchange for not getting the death penalty. Further investigations
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of Raymond and his house actually found a nest of
black widow spiders. Also, a man by the name of
Snake Joe said that Hope had actually bought the snakes
from him. He then returned them after the crime had happened.
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Not very good. All the snakes, by the way, their
names were Lethal and Lightning. In case you wanted to
know he gamed them.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Also, wouldn't you be afraid that a little spider's gonna
go over can come get you? Like he's got a
nesting whom in his apartment or house wherever he was living.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know that the nest was just like out
in the open. It might have been like in.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
A IQ of a fucking tadpole. I mean, come on,
this is true.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This is the guy who tried to kill people with
black widows and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Rattlesnakes so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So the anyway, they convicted him of murder and Raymond
was hanged on May nineteen forty two. And after that ending,
you can see how he got his nickname of Rattlesnake James.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I really think that that was a lazy That was
a lazy name.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But I don't think he gave it to himself though,
I think other people gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think they should have gave him like water Boy
or like drown Darwin, I don't know, not Rattlesnake Jim
or whatever the fuck his name is. Come on, he
was drowning people. That's that's way worse.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, technically it should have been something to do with
the drowning, because.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's like the wave, like, oh, here comes the wave.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'll give him this. Though he hit the way, I'll
give him this. He wasn't. He wasn't a quitter because
he tried to kill the first wife with a hammer,
couldn't do it and drown her. And then he tried
to kill this one three different times with Rattlesnakes and
black Widows and they ended up drowning her. He should
have started with that. If he could have went on,
that's probably how he would have just started.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, Rattlesnake Jim James whatever. Okay, So I thought I,
for some reason had it in my brain that we
were gonna do the Sweeney Todd thing, and then I
thought it, really thought about it, and I'm like everyone,
Sweeney Todd, you ape. So obviously it was the story
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of Rattlesnake Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So when you heard Rattlesnake James, you thought you knew
the story for a second. Yeah, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
No, am I shocked? Yes, very still disappointed in the
name choice.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You said you had a story to share.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, well I can't share that one now that I'm
really thinking about it. But I went, I have a question,
and it's bold. It's a bold maybe it's not a
bold question. Have you seen the conspiracy theories about Princess Diana.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I don't know what are you talking about, where they're
saying that she was actually killed by not the pap Arzzi,
but those people were.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Sent she's still alive. No, that she's still alive.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now, I've seen that. Listen to me. It's not though.
I'll send you the video because I thought that's ridiculous too.
And then I couldn't sleep because I couldn't breathe because
I was sick, and I went down a rabbit hole
of fun. I will hey, pause, did you get that
video I Sentia?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We can't pause. That causes me extra work.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, the video I Sentia about the the things and
the bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, but I haven't I haven't done any.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Part of it. Unbelievable. Do you let me tell you
what it is?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you got to watch a video and then I
can tell you next week what it is. We can
talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It, all right, Go ahead with your other story.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And I can't tell that story. I can't comment.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Why don't you just tease everybody and say you had
a story and then you just come back Dan and
say you can't.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Tell it because I really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Because I know you. You've thought about this for three days.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I contemplated a lot of things within the last three days,
but none of those can be revealed. So I do
have a question. Yes, okay, how was your weekend? I
saw that you went to some concert?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Did oh it wouldn't well, Actually, you know what we did.
I hooked up with my best friend of thirty eight years. Oh,
and we went to see Thunderstruck, which is America's ACDC.
They are a tribute band, but they are literally the
best in the country. And Tracy and I have been
friend with friends with those guys for over eleven years.
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When they first started out, we actually we actually gave
them when I was doing comedy their first paid gig.
I paid these guys four hundred bucks to come out
and perform a set while I was doing a comedy show.
It was my comedy show, so I paid them to
come out. Of course, I was making money on tickets.
And now they're getting fifteen twenty thousand dollars a night
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and they play all over the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They came out for a deal. Every time they come
to Louisville or Lexington, we go see them. And they
were in Louisville, so we went out there, and my
best friend lives out in the Neck of the woods,
so we saw each other. Then the next day I
went to go play top golf. Years ago, twenty five
twenty seven years ago, we had a basketball team. It
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was five of us and we played in all these
street basketball tournaments and stuff like that. And then my
buddy Kevin who passed away roughly ten years ago. His
birthday my birthday were a day apart from each other.
August twenty first, twenty second. Matter of fact, I started
Hillbilly Horror Stories on the twenty first as a tribute
to him. Oh wow. But the four remaining of us,
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we don't do a whole lot together anymore, you know,
we all kind of keep in touch, but you know,
so we decided, hey, let's go do something fun together.
And we all got together, went and played at Top
Golf and one of us had been there before, two
of us had been there before, the other two myself
and one of the other guys had never been there before.
And it was just fun. None of us knew what
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the hell we were doing, and it was just fun
and we had a good time. So that was That's
kind of what I did for my weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That sounds like a blast. I like that. I love
that story. It's nice and it's heartwarming. After that disgusting
story we heard about Incess.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We're gonna try to start doing something at least once
a month. So I think next month we're going to
try to go bowling or something.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, you should, oh my god, you guys should start
a bowling league.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
No, I don't think we're going to do something consistent
like that, but.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Calumn call it like like the old baldies or something.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I don't know. Well, two of us have plenty of hair.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So you have a ton. It's beautiful and flowing. I
love what you do with the place.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's fine. You're so cute when you're angry. Don't worry.
All right, do you have any wait? Stop? Do you
have any scary things that kids have said?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh? Yes, do you have one? No? Why would you
bring it up to me and you haven't done your homework?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, because I thought you said you're going to do it,
and I can't think of any good ones right now.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Actually, but I thought you made one up last week.
Not you didn't make it up, but you had.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We were talking about scary like stories at my house
because my house is spooky.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I know, but I thought I was gonna have one
and you were gonna have one each week.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I don't think. I don't think that got stored in
my brain. You gotta text that stuff to me. No,
lots of things, don't They just kind of scatter?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
All right? Well, I got one for you. Oh tell
me this woman says she was playing and laughing with
her three year old girl one day when things suddenly
turned grim. Her face dead pants. She looks me in
the eye and tells me in a very serious little voice, Mummy,
if you bit and ate all my fingers off, I
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wouldn't love you anymore? What the fuck? Mm hm. Another
person's daughter was only six years old when she apparently
began plotting her father's demise. Dad, when I'm seven, I'm
gonna kill you no weight. When I'm eight, She's towed
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a scary triangle while they rode in the car together.
Her response when her dad asked, how do you plan
on killing me? Oh, I'm gonna drive your head. I'll
drive over your head with this car.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
What the fuck did it happen?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't have the continuing story of it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But how are you gonna leave me hanging?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All these are going to leave you hanging? You don't
know if any of them took place. Okay, So anyways,
we're done with this episode.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It was so good talking to you, Bud.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, it was. It was. It was great talking with me.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Wow, all right, that's fine, go back to your Carriage
from nineteen thirty bud Ye.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You know you don't You don't say bye the same
way on these episodes like you did on morning.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I don't really remember what I did. I don't even
remember what I had for breakfast? So what am I saying?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bye?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't even remember how I do it? How do
I do it?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Bye?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah? You did? I made you do it by Is.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
That what you were trying to do? So you remember?
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Bye bye
Hey, guys, welcome to episode three of Wickedly Weird with
Jerry and Amanda. Amanda, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm good. I have I have a story. I can't
go into too much detail, but all I need you
guys to do is go on my website and read
a story for me. Once you read it, like it'll
make sense. But it's really good. It's vocal dot Media.
You can find me under a dizzy and the story
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is about a broken friendship. It's really super good and
you guys should read it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And where's what's the website again?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Vocal Media? Well, vocal dot Media.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, vocal dot Media.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, it's called huh vocal Media Media. Yeah, and it's
called her.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's really good, all right, so everybody go look it up.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep. So how was your week? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Uh? It was all right, it was right, nothing nothing major,
just getting some work done around the house and getting
ready for a couple of live events that we got
going on. So you know how that goes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I don't know how that goes, but it sounds busy.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep. All right, Well, Amanda, this is the day that
we're recording this. We actually is the same day that
we released our first episode, very very positive reviews so far.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I know I was digging it. I liked it. I
was like, oh, I even had a couple people message
via reach out via text message. I thought that was nice,
very nice.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, today we're going to cover the story of the
last man to ever be executed by hanging in the
state of California.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He is affectionately known as Rattlesnake. James.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think I know this one. Okay, tell me what.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I'm trying to purposely pick stuff that you don't know.
I don't thought this would be it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I might not know it. I might not know it.
I might be thinking of something similar. Okay. I had
full of conspiracy theories today, but we got to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Talk about one. This is true. Well, his nickname came
basically from one of the reasons that he was executed,
and we're going to cover that in just a bit.
But let's learn a little bit about our man, Rattlesnake.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Was that his real name was that his like birth
given name. Now I know, wish it was makes it
less cool. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He was born on March sixth, eighteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
His woman, I no, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I have no idea what the signs are other than
my own.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay neither did they.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Just change a bunch of them though, I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Don't know, and it makes me like, it makes me
sweaty when I think about it because I am in aries.
I wanted to say, I wanted to say now, but
they don't now, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
His real name his birth name was Raymond Lissenba s
E Nba listens.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's less and that's less cool.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
He would later be known by several aliases such as
Major Lisbie, Robert Sherwood Jones, and Robert S. James. He
apparently had a way with the women though.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
He was a native of Alabama and he worked from
an early age in a cotton field. He was a
cotton picker. He would eventually go to barber school, and
this was thanks to his brother in law who actually
had a barber college and he let him attend for free. Now,
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Raymond was not a very intelligent man. He was often
described as less than half wit. He was never successful
in school, as you can pass, but his charm was
a different matter altogether. Like I said before, he had
away with the ladies.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, what year was this.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This was in well, he was born in eighteen ninety six,
so early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I bet you he was krawling with the syphilis.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Probably probably so everybody was back then. Yeah, all right,
So his little way with the ladies, as we said,
led to several marriages. Now, his first marriage was in
nineteen twenty one. He married a lady by the name
of maud duncan now get this. She ended up divorcing
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him on account that he demanded two kinky and sadistic sex.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Ugh ooh what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, I mean the sadistic part. Obviously, he liked it
rough and she apparently didn't like it rough. The kinki.
There's no tellings what that could have involved, you know,
for back then, it could have been anything other than
missionary might have been considered kinky back then.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh no, it could have been like he likes banging
her in her weirdo long dress with all of her
stockings and legans and shit, or he like liked it
if she didn't wash them, something really weird, because you
know that was going on back then. They don't care,
they don't discriminate, just called something else.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, after this, somewhere between nineteen twenty four. Nineteen twenty five,
he changed his name to Robert S. James. With his
new identity, he decided to move to Kansas and he
married his second wife, but she left when Raymond was
basically threatened by a man who claimed that Raymond had
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impregnated his daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh no, no, that's terrible.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No news on what happened after that other than his
second wife, Leeman. Raymond then moved to North Dakota. He
was all over the place. He went from Alabama to
Kansas to North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
His mother passed away and left him a pretty large
amount of money from an insurance policy. This could have
been a good thing, but instead it actually fueled his
greed and introduced him to the world of insurance fraud.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
A felony baby.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This would lead him down a path of several murders
and eventually lead to his execution. Oh boy, you know
you're a bad person when you start using your family
members as a part of your life insurance scheme. That's
exactly what he did. Knowing the amount of money that
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he could make off of life insurance, he bought a
policy for his nephew and listed himself as the beneficiary. Now,
this was the sister and brother in law who put
him through barbera school. This was their son. About two
weeks after he purchased a life insurance policy, he tampered
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with his nephew's car, creating a circumstance that would lead
to his nephew's death. Yep, okay, that's exactly what happened
to He felt the plan was so full proof that
he even telegrammed his sister about her son's death before
the actual death took place.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That fucked up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Oh, he collected four grand out of it. That's a
lot of money. Back in nineteen twenty five.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
He was like a gazillionaire back then.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, I mean yes, because he'd already collected a bunch
of money from his mom. I don't know how much,
but now he gets four grand from this.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But now he's got that taste.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Agreed, Yes, and I went, I'm gonna tell you more
about that greed right after this, quick sponsor break, all right, Amanda.
In nineteen thirty two, he was abble to convince yet
another woman to join him in wedlock. This was his
third wife. Her name was Winona Wallace.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, though, you're gonna say, what a writer for a
sec even though I know that nothing to do with
the story. But really, quick question, when ye promoting silence,
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You won't It has to be put in afterwards. Oh okay,
just trust me on this one.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm gonna trust you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I don't even know what's going in there. It's just set.
So the company puts it in when they want to.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh, oh we're running Silence. Oh Jesus, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Now we're producing on the air, all right. So he
marries this one on the walls. He then convinces her
to take out a fourteen thousand dollars life.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Insurance policy red flag.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And list him as he's so beneficiary. I mean, this
wouldn't probably something that happened a lot back then, so
it might not been as much of a red flag.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
No, if I met a strange man that was like,
can you please take a life insurance policy out of you?
I would be like why?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But they were married at this point, so how strange
could he be?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean, that's kind of a lot of money back then,
though it sure was. What if I was like, oh,
I'm only worth two dollars bud, like, no, that's two
dollars a lot back then too. You know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Whatever, Amanda, guess what happened on their honeymoon?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Killed there? He gave her a good killing, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He tried. He hit her in the head with a
hammer and then drove the car off of a cliff
with her in it. Oh, and he was able to
jump from the car right before it drove off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's not even that's a lie and everyone should question that.
And he's an idiot.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well here's a twist for you. When Ona survived what
but she gave no memory of the incident whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But then, how do we know this part of the story.
Is it a fabricated version?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, it's just eventually, when people get caught, they end
up telling you all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Imagine if it was just a wild ride of lies
and none of this is true.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Are you calling me a liar?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, not you, mister snake man. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So this meant no money for Raymond, so he decided
to plan a second attempt. He made it simple this time, though,
he just drowned her into bathtub. WHA was able to
convince authorities that it was an accident, and he collected
his fourteen grand.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That is that makes me sad for her.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Now he moves back to Alabama. He started an affair
with his niece, the daughter of the sister and the
brother in law who sent him to barber school. So
now he's killed their son and he's dating. They're eighteen
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year old daughter.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's gross Waiting, how old is he right now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He's like thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's even grosser because when I was eighteen, I thought
thirty eight year old were in nursing homes. So I
wish I could be in a nursing home some days.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm sure you do only get them just getting these
old men to sign insurance policies over to you.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
She was a trained manicurists, which makes sense because her
dad onto barber college. He can. He convinced her to
move to Los Angeles and start a barbershop with him,
so they moved to LA wanted to have more insurance money.
He convinced her to marry him and become his fourth
wife slash niece.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So what wouldn't that baby come out all deformed?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh I'm sure it probably would. Now, to his surprise,
she would not take out a life insurance policy because
it required a medical exam and she hated medical exams.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He basically had no use for her now, so he
annulled the marriage.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh excellent.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Next next, early nineteen thirty five, he hired Mary. She
was a manicurist also, and he hired her to come
into the barber shop, which was probably awkward because this
is where his niece lover slash ex wife also was
a manicurist. Of course Mary would be you know, his
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next wife, but also his next and last victim. M
Of course they got married, and now planning her murder
was a bit more elaborate, because you know, he might
not have been very smart, but he was smart enough
to know that another dead wife and another insurance policy
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in the name would probably look suspicious.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But wait, no one's catching on. No one's catching on
to this, No.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
One's way has up yet. There's really only been two,
the brother in law and the h the wife that
he drowned.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So what a terrible way to go.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So first he decided to get Mary to take out
the life assurance policy, which she did. Now he just
needed her to die in a way that would not
incriminate him. Something looks like an accident. Mm hmm, Mary
actually died by drowning.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Can you do it? He did it?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, But when investigators started to dig up Raymond's history,
they got a little suspicious. He had basically five wives.
The third and the fifth both died for drowning. They
decided to go by the house and they bugged it
so they could see what was going.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Wait, how they bug it? How do you do that
back then?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean they had listening devices in the thirties. Nah ah,
it was not the Stone Age, Amanda, listen.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm thinking nineteen thirties. I'm thinking horse and carriage. I'm
not thinking cars. I'm still my horse and carriage.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Like they had cars in the thirties. There was not
horses and carriages in the thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What kind of cars would they drive?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Model T's and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I thought Model T's were like in the field.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I think that was like No, Model T's were like
nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh wait, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They had Fords and stuff in the thirties, and probably Dodges,
probably even Chevyes.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Never a Dodge again or a Chevy.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But okay, yeah, can I finish my story?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah? Sorry, I just have questions about this.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I understand, Well, they bugged the house, they heard several
sexual encounters with various women next, but usually usually his niece.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, it's worse.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Probably they probably wasn't til my whole bunch of times.
It was like torn Hub before there was born Hub.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, people is, oh, no, my brain's just taking a walk.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But you know how, they couldn't ever get al capone
on murder, so they end up arresting him on tax evasion. Yeah,
well this was enough for them to actually arrest him
for incest. And when the news broke, a guy named
Charles Hope, he actually came to the authorities with some
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strange info about our man. Hope said that Raymond had
come to him with an odd request. Raymond wanted a
couple of venomous rattlesnakes for a friend to commit murder
mere day. Hope got him the snakes for a large
sum of money, and he said he didn't care what
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the reason was for. He was just getting paid and
that was it. Raymond took the snakes. He drugged his
wife and put her foot inside of a box with
the two rattlesnakes. That's the snakes bit her on the foot,
and he waited for her to die, but hours passed
and she was still alive, and he got anxious and
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decided to drown Aer in a fish pond out in
the front yard.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
For all to see.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Well, no, I'm sure there was like a farm or
something where he was on the person around.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
The autopsy had showed peculiar marks on her left toe,
but they were unable to discover what had caused the
marks based on Hope's testimony. They then took Raymond and
they booked him on first degree murder, but he of
course had a different story. Raymond claims that the idea
of murder actually came from Hope. Raymond says that he
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was just an accomplice, but during the trial it was
discovered that several attempts had actually been made to murder
Mary before the drowning, and a lot that actually took
her life. Raymond had even used black widow spie to poisoner,
but she survived at too, so he tried to come
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over with black widow spiders, and I guess then he went.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And got the snakes the kind of our surprises.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
On May sixth, nineteen thirty seven, both Hope and Raymond
were charged the first Green murder on June second, nineteen
thirty seven. Raymond was sentenced to one hundred and fifty
years in prison just for the incest. Hope pleaded guilty
in exchange for not getting the death penalty. Further investigations
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of Raymond and his house actually found a nest of
black widow spiders. Also, a man by the name of
Snake Joe said that Hope had actually bought the snakes
from him. He then returned them after the crime had happened.
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Not very good. All the snakes, by the way, their
names were Lethal and Lightning. In case you wanted to
know he gamed them.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Also, wouldn't you be afraid that a little spider's gonna
go over can come get you? Like he's got a
nesting whom in his apartment or house wherever he was living.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know that the nest was just like out
in the open. It might have been like in.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
A IQ of a fucking tadpole. I mean, come on,
this is true.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This is the guy who tried to kill people with
black widows and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Rattlesnakes so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So the anyway, they convicted him of murder and Raymond
was hanged on May nineteen forty two. And after that ending,
you can see how he got his nickname of Rattlesnake James.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I really think that that was a lazy That was
a lazy name.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But I don't think he gave it to himself though,
I think other people gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think they should have gave him like water Boy
or like drown Darwin, I don't know, not Rattlesnake Jim
or whatever the fuck his name is. Come on, he
was drowning people. That's that's way worse.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, technically it should have been something to do with
the drowning, because.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's like the wave, like, oh, here comes the wave.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'll give him this. Though he hit the way, I'll
give him this. He wasn't. He wasn't a quitter because
he tried to kill the first wife with a hammer,
couldn't do it and drown her. And then he tried
to kill this one three different times with Rattlesnakes and
black Widows and they ended up drowning her. He should
have started with that. If he could have went on,
that's probably how he would have just started.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, Rattlesnake Jim James whatever. Okay, So I thought I,
for some reason had it in my brain that we
were gonna do the Sweeney Todd thing, and then I
thought it, really thought about it, and I'm like everyone,
Sweeney Todd, you ape. So obviously it was the story
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of Rattlesnake Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So when you heard Rattlesnake James, you thought you knew
the story for a second. Yeah, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
No, am I shocked? Yes, very still disappointed in the
name choice.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You said you had a story to share.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, well I can't share that one now that I'm
really thinking about it. But I went, I have a question,
and it's bold. It's a bold maybe it's not a
bold question. Have you seen the conspiracy theories about Princess Diana.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I don't know what are you talking about, where they're
saying that she was actually killed by not the pap Arzzi,
but those people were.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Sent she's still alive. No, that she's still alive.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now, I've seen that. Listen to me. It's not though.
I'll send you the video because I thought that's ridiculous too.
And then I couldn't sleep because I couldn't breathe because
I was sick, and I went down a rabbit hole
of fun. I will hey, pause, did you get that
video I Sentia?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We can't pause. That causes me extra work.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, the video I Sentia about the the things and
the bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, but I haven't I haven't done any.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Part of it. Unbelievable. Do you let me tell you
what it is?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, you got to watch a video and then I
can tell you next week what it is. We can
talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It, all right, Go ahead with your other story.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And I can't tell that story. I can't comment.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Why don't you just tease everybody and say you had
a story and then you just come back Dan and
say you can't.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Tell it because I really thought about it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Because I know you. You've thought about this for three days.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I contemplated a lot of things within the last three days,
but none of those can be revealed. So I do
have a question. Yes, okay, how was your weekend? I
saw that you went to some concert?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Did oh it wouldn't well, Actually, you know what we did.
I hooked up with my best friend of thirty eight years. Oh,
and we went to see Thunderstruck, which is America's ACDC.
They are a tribute band, but they are literally the
best in the country. And Tracy and I have been
friend with friends with those guys for over eleven years.
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When they first started out, we actually we actually gave
them when I was doing comedy their first paid gig.
I paid these guys four hundred bucks to come out
and perform a set while I was doing a comedy show.
It was my comedy show, so I paid them to
come out. Of course, I was making money on tickets.
And now they're getting fifteen twenty thousand dollars a night
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and they play all over the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They came out for a deal. Every time they come
to Louisville or Lexington, we go see them. And they
were in Louisville, so we went out there, and my
best friend lives out in the Neck of the woods,
so we saw each other. Then the next day I
went to go play top golf. Years ago, twenty five
twenty seven years ago, we had a basketball team. It
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was five of us and we played in all these
street basketball tournaments and stuff like that. And then my
buddy Kevin who passed away roughly ten years ago. His
birthday my birthday were a day apart from each other.
August twenty first, twenty second. Matter of fact, I started
Hillbilly Horror Stories on the twenty first as a tribute
to him. Oh wow. But the four remaining of us,
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we don't do a whole lot together anymore, you know,
we all kind of keep in touch, but you know,
so we decided, hey, let's go do something fun together.
And we all got together, went and played at Top
Golf and one of us had been there before, two
of us had been there before, the other two myself
and one of the other guys had never been there before.
And it was just fun. None of us knew what
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the hell we were doing, and it was just fun
and we had a good time. So that was That's
kind of what I did for my weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That sounds like a blast. I like that. I love
that story. It's nice and it's heartwarming. After that disgusting
story we heard about Incess.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We're gonna try to start doing something at least once
a month. So I think next month we're going to
try to go bowling or something.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, you should, oh my god, you guys should start
a bowling league.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
No, I don't think we're going to do something consistent
like that, but.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Calumn call it like like the old baldies or something.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I don't know. Well, two of us have plenty of hair.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So you have a ton. It's beautiful and flowing. I
love what you do with the place.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's fine. You're so cute when you're angry. Don't worry.
All right, do you have any wait? Stop? Do you
have any scary things that kids have said?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh? Yes, do you have one? No? Why would you
bring it up to me and you haven't done your homework?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, because I thought you said you're going to do it,
and I can't think of any good ones right now.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Actually, but I thought you made one up last week.
Not you didn't make it up, but you had.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We were talking about scary like stories at my house
because my house is spooky.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I know, but I thought I was gonna have one
and you were gonna have one each week.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I don't think. I don't think that got stored in
my brain. You gotta text that stuff to me. No,
lots of things, don't They just kind of scatter?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
All right? Well, I got one for you. Oh tell
me this woman says she was playing and laughing with
her three year old girl one day when things suddenly
turned grim. Her face dead pants. She looks me in
the eye and tells me in a very serious little voice, Mummy,
if you bit and ate all my fingers off, I
(26:56):
wouldn't love you anymore? What the fuck? Mm hm. Another
person's daughter was only six years old when she apparently
began plotting her father's demise. Dad, when I'm seven, I'm
gonna kill you no weight. When I'm eight, She's towed
(27:16):
a scary triangle while they rode in the car together.
Her response when her dad asked, how do you plan
on killing me? Oh, I'm gonna drive your head. I'll
drive over your head with this car.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
What the fuck did it happen?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well, I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't have the continuing story of it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But how are you gonna leave me hanging?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All these are going to leave you hanging? You don't
know if any of them took place. Okay, So anyways,
we're done with this episode.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It was so good talking to you, Bud.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, it was. It was. It was great talking with me.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Wow, all right, that's fine, go back to your Carriage
from nineteen thirty bud Ye.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You know you don't You don't say bye the same
way on these episodes like you did on morning.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I don't really remember what I did. I don't even
remember what I had for breakfast? So what am I saying?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bye?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't even remember how I do it? How do
I do it?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Bye?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah? You did? I made you do it by Is.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
That what you were trying to do? So you remember?
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Bye bye
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