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October 23, 2025 55 mins
NBA legend Isiah Thomas joins the show for an unfiltered interview about his career, his rivalries, and his thoughts on today’s NBA. From beating Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird at their peak, to the infamous “Jordan Rules”, to how the game has changed in 2025 - Isiah doesn’t hold back.

We cover:
- How the Bad Boys Pistons took down Jordan, Magic & Bird
- The truth about the Jordan Rules
- Why Isiah believes today’s NBA is easier to win
- Larry Bird’s greatness and the battles of the 80s
- Why Isiah says he was the blueprint for the modern point guard
- Thoughts on defense, coaching, and how the game has evolved

This is one of the most honest interviews you’ll ever see from a Hall of Famer, 2x NBA Champion, and one of the greatest point guards of all time.

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