August 11, 2019 • 53 mins
Mike Blewitt, Joe Gallina and George Kurtz recap the latest NFL and MLB preseason games and review the latest news ahead of upcoming games. Then, they preview the Chiefs for the 2019 NFL season and bring in Davis Mattek of RotoExperts to talk running backs and more. #FNTSY #FNTSYRadio #MLB #NFL #FantasyBaseball #FantasyFootball #News #Recaps #AntonioBrown #Chiefs #2019 #NFLPreseason
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for joining us on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network. Mike Blewett,
George Kurtz, and Joe Gillina, the Trifecta, the Triumvirate getting
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tune in radio, uh and anywhere else that you can
find this show. So we've got a lot going on today.
Many guests, Uh many? Is that many? We got three guests.
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We got a few guests, several few. Yeah, I think
that's not enough for several, it's probably a few. So yeah. Anyway,
three three hosts, three guests. So that's we're at today.
And the voice you here right there is Joe Glina. Joe,
how are you doing? Great? Glad to be with you
guys on this Sunday. We have some real live football
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games that we'll talk about, and we saw some some
good stuff. So yeah, right, yeah, George gets really fired
up for preseason. Uh really does barn Burner in l
a s in Oakland yesterday fourteen three Raiders rams. We'll
get into those in a moment. But that other sarcastic
yea that you heard is from George Kurt, George, how
are you? Well? You know, it's preseason, man, we all
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know what. We're all excited. That's all football. And then
you know way next week and you're like, oh man,
what is this preseason crop going through? End? It's bad football.
It's boring. I mean I watched the Cowboy game like
midnight last night and it's like, you gotta be kidding me?
What am I doing here? And I'm and I have
to I have to record it anyway, doesn't matter. I'll
record it next week too, and week for you, I'll
record it, assuming it's not. I can't watch it live.
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So it's just annoying, you know, a little pet peeve
of mine. Uh you know you said the three hosts here.
That bothers me. You're you're you're the host, Mike Blue,
it's the host. Joe and I are analysts today to
co host to analyst, right, to analysts, right, that's what
that's what our where job is. And you know, uh,
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you know, later on the weekend wages, I'll be hosting
Joe be the analysts. Usually I'm the analyst. So it's
a pet peeve of mind, even though I know were
you know, through the bigger ups. That's what the cool
as a co as co hosts. But we're really not.
This is this is Mike Show Today. That's my way
of saying that the show sucks. It's Mike's fold. We've
we've gone off to I'm on three hours sleep here,
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all right, so I'm a little tired. Put something into
his coffee. Apparently a bit of a car mudgeon to
this morning, right, and it's so pepsi, pepsi from last
night too. By the way, I don't think this is
not a new one, but it's on my desk. I'm
drinking it amazing. So at George Kurtz, at Joe Galina,
nothing fancied with the Twitter handles. I'm at Mike Blewett. So, uh,
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quick baseball note. I don't know if you folks have
been watching a baseball all year, but the Orioles are terrible.
They are one of the worst teams and they lost
twenty three to do last night. You get to start
off many shows with O's talk, but I figured you're
given the score and the manner in which the Yankees
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pounded them this past week. They at Sleep exceeded the
low or I don't even know what the term is
to use. They have a new low low based off
the Yankees pounding them into submission by giving up twenty
three runs to Houston last night. Pretty crazy. Alvarez, uh
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three home runs drove in seven runs last night. So
for those of you rostering him, good times for you.
Um So, all right, we could talk baseball, but we'll
probably put that on the back burner until later in
the show. We did have a few games last night.
You had the Chiefs playing the Bengals, and I think
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this probably played out like a regular season game, would Joe.
The Chiefs off to a really good start. Pat Mahomes Kelsey,
he's scrambling. They handed off to Carlos side. They drive
right down the field in that first quarter, just shredding
that Cincinnati defense. I think the Bengals are gonna be
probably one of the worst teams in the league, and
the Chiefs, at least off defensively, still gonna be one
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of the most high powered attacks in the NFL. Absolutely,
And we got to see also a little bit of
a running back Darwin Thompson, you know, other than the
guys that you know, we used to see him like
the kel season, the Mahomes like you mentioned, But Darwin Thompson,
uh running back looked depressive, leap frogging over the defender,
louding another defender on his way to a twenty nine
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yard T T D reception that was eventually called back.
Uh Mikole Hardman. How about that that little uh shovel pass?
The guy is fast right, uh Tyreek Hill Clone. So yeah,
the Chiefs look like they were in mid season fom
and you know they weren't even using their the starters
for a majority the game. Of course, Yeah, George, we're
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gonna have Davis Maddock, who's a big chief fan. We're
gonna talk to him about an article. This is in
the next twelve minutes or so. He's got an article
out about three running backs who can swing your fantasy
football league. We're talking about that. But also he happens
to be a Chiefs fan. He's located in Kansas City.
So we'll get deeper into the Chiefs. But uh, any
of the other games jump out to you said, you
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watched the Dallas game last night. Anything you can take
away from it or it's just like, you know, the
starters are barely in there, and uh, there's only so
much information you can clean out of it. But sevent
nine Dallas takes the l against the Niners last night,
I mean as far as the Cowboys because there are
no Elliott, no Cooper, the offense couldn't move. They kept
getting bogged down. No, I think it's much you can
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take from it. Uh, we know as fantasy players, we've
all done multiple drafts already. Well preseason is is Please
don't get my player hurt. No, don't get get up,
Please get up. Don't get hurt. If you're a cowboysman,
you don't want your cowboys to get hurt. If I'm
a fantasy fan, I don't want my players to get hurt.
I'm watching the Steelers uh Bucks game now when NFL Network,
it's great network. They just replay games all the time.
It's fantastic. So you can sketch up on the games.
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But no, I don't. It's not not in week one,
you know, because like I said, starters are gonna play
a series, maybe two. You know, as it goes on,
they play a quarter a half. This some things. Look
for the only I care about in preseason's two things,
all right, Look for guys who are injured last year,
how they come back? Do they look good? You know?
I mean specifically, Okay, it's a guy with charges who
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got hurt last year. I may I'll look for a charge.
Might look see how we wunt their henry looks. I
know we came back in the playoffs, but maybe I
want to look to see how he looks at positional battles.
You know that. I want to see that, you know,
see who looks better? So I get an idea later
in a fantasy leaks that I'm gonna keep draftficking. Other
than that, preseason to me is pretty much a bunch
of hot, hot garbage. There's a reason they want to
get rid of half these games. Yeah, and from the
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Niner standpoint, you look up and down the line, no Garoppolo,
none of the three running backs that anybody's drafting played. Uh.
The only guy that will probably appear on some fantasy
teams down day. Pettis is getting a lot of love
in fantasy circles. He got one target, didn't catch it,
So Deebo Samuel a couple of catches last night too
for six one. We'll get into these uh, you know,
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we'll we'll get into these teams like later in the hour.
You know, thoughts really on that, But why don't we
stick actually with the Niners for a second shoe. And
when it comes to the weapons that Garrappolo is gonna
have access to, gar Apple is going pretty late. He's
a QB two like forwards the into that QB two
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conversation a year ago, everybody was really buying the hype
on him because of the Shanahan offense. Are you willing
to ratchet that back up and say that there's a
lot of upside for the players overall in this offense,
given the fact that Ka Shanahan is running the show.
I'm kind of lukewarm to it. I mean, there's a
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lot of moving parts to this offense. You look at
their backfield. I mean, you know what's gonna happen there.
I mean we're looking at Kevin Coleman probably being the
main guy there. But what does that mean? You still
have uh, you know, you know McKinnon, Uh, you know, uh,
then Brita and in there and then the wide receivers.
You just had Trent Taylor go down and all of
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a sudden, Jalen heard, everyone excited about Jalen heard. So
I mean, like I said, I mean, you know, Shanahan
does have a good resume of running the offenses. But
I'm not banking on the Fortune nine as being a
you know, the high powered, high octane offense this season. Yeah. Yeah, George.
A year ago, the hype was real for the Bears
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and the Niners, and I was trying to throw cold
water on it because I thought people were getting caught
up in the hype. Turns out that was wrong. On
the Bears Bears obviously had a great season. The Niners
fell apart after Jimmy g got hurt. So I don't
hear as much hype around it this year as I
did last year. And obviously you could argue that we
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know now Kittle is an established player. He breaks the
record for receiving yards in a season for a tight end,
and they've added more weapons. I get that there's question
marks with the wide receiver position, but given the fact
that we were hyping it last year and the group
wasn't fantastic, why not some similar hype this year? Oh?
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I think once again, they're not the new toy anymore.
Last year they were in a toy, the new coach.
You know, Grapplo's gonna play his first full season. You know,
everybody wants everyone interest a new toy. What's gonna happen here?
And then it all came crashing down. Uh, Gucci got hurt,
didn't play part of the season, and then that's then
that's not not the hot to talk about anymore. Marky's
good when he was a hot new last year. Now
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he's you can direct in the nineties. Yeah, he's just
he's an ant though here. So I think a lot
of it that McKinnon once again back last year. Okay,
wait to get McKinnon a c L done. We never
see him, you know. Tevin Coleman was now that same
kind of hype here. Maybe because we think with Coleman guys,
I mean, maybe it's me because I had him on
a team or two. I thought it was disappointing. I mean,
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I know what you look at you look at his
yards per carrying. It's good. It's I think it's four
point three at four point seven, maybe one of those two.
But I mean I remember having him. There were so
many weeks treated nothing, I mean nothing at the starting
running back once a Freeman went down here. So I
think that's part it too. But I think it really
comes down to the new toy theory. They're not the
new toy now. Now we go to all these other
teams that have new quarterbacks, new coaches, new players, there's
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nobody really knew that this year. Colemans just doesn't excite anybody. Yeah,
I mean, Colvin Coleman started fourteen games last year. He
played in sixteen. He touched the ball a hundred ninety
nine times. The touchdowns were good. He had nine touchdowns.
But the George's point, like, the game logs were just frustrating.
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You can look if you didn't if you weren't dialed
in on it last year, George, to your point, you
would be like, oh, he had a pretty good season.
That's like. But but at the same point, Atlanta's offense
is legit. The other start the other, the starting running
back is out. Coleman is in a situation where he
could he earned a massive new contract and it just
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didn't happen. I'm just looking down his game logs. He
had to one yard rushing games to the whole year,
excuse me, um, and realistically, beyond that all purpose yards,
how many times did he go over a hundred? Those
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two and one other I think so three total. We're
scrimmage yards for over a hundred yards. The touchdowns were helpful,
but again I just felt like there was a much
greater opportunity for him to explode on the scene. He
gets a new contract from the Niners, but it isn't.
It isn't what Jerick McKinnon got from them the year before. George, No,
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it's not, it's not, And I don't know of when
it comes to calm, I guess he knows the systems,
what makes sense there. But you know, Garoppolo and you
guys know this. He hasn't even played sixteen games yet
one was a full season. You know, I listen. I
have faith in him. I think, you know, fantasy wise,
a good quarterback to it's some upside here. But outside
of Kittle, I mean, it is no, not much proven
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there in the in the receiving game. We love Kittle.
You know. We had the in house draft on uh
well anything house draft on Friday. I took Kittle, which
I'd never do. I don't like taking a tight end,
but he filter me. I thinking around six and I
grabbed Kittle, which is early to before a tight end
Generally I like to wait, uh one, two, three ft
Now I'll make that round five. So uh, I like.
I like it. A lot of these be great, but man,
I'd like to see something in the passing game. Imagine
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a good way you can get for free and drafts.
Dante Pettis okay, he's been drased as a wide receiving
four resly the three. Maybe Dievo Samuel we has some
hope for It's what Matthews his day at Trent tailor.
I mean, I don't know. I think this offense is
still working progress. Plus you're not here. Bosa has got
a significant ankle sprain. They're a first round pick, early
first round pick, and maybe you know everyone again we
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all know high ankle sprain. Boy, he may not be
back to October for all we know. And even it
comes back, he's gonna gonna be able to push you
off that ankle. We don't know. The Boss seems to
have problems that they both have had injuries like this.
So I think a lot of the uh, the blue
was of the rose here. He's a bad pun where
it's just they're just see they're just not sexy. Because
we don't know, there's really nobody's sixty on offense outside
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of Kid Went. It's hard to be sixty for a
tight unless a rock. You know, you're that kind of personality, Garblo.
We just don't know, we think, but we don't know.
Colemen is not exciting. There's nobody here that really goes,
oh wow. I can't wait to see him play. You know,
the kid of the tight end. I say tight end,
I don't think really does it for the most people. Yeah,
I wonder Joe. If Pennis is the guy, we have
actually seen him go pretty early, right, so he's going
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off the board right now nff C A DPS. He's
seventies second, so exactly into the sixth round, which for
a guy that hasn't really doesn't have a ton of
stats to back him up. I guess that's the guy
where people are buying the hype that he could be
just the number one wide receiver. He wouldn't be the
number one pass catcher. You have to assume that that's
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kiddl still, but he could be the number one wide
receiver on the Niners in a Kyle channah An offense. Yeah,
he had that little blip the three or four weeks
last year where he that scored four touchdowns in three
weeks and then he had the five eight three game.
Uh So, I guess if you're looking for hope out
of this offense other than Kittle, it's it's got to
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be Pettis. But again, you know what is he overall?
What you say is a DP was he's probably at
best maybe a wide receiver three. Uh So, I mean
he's someone that you might want to, you know, take
a shot on a little later in drafts, but no
guarantees there. Yeah, yeah, uh George. Uh. We'll get into
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Dallas Um a little bit later in the show, but
as you said, he didn't really have anybody to to
base anything off of last night. As far as ADPs
are concerned, right now, you know the one guy I
think that we're going to be most curious about because
we know what Amory can be and obviously know z
he can be if when he shows up. Um. But
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as Michael Gallop, I think some are expecting Michael Gallop
to have a brig breakout season right here. I obviously
just get concerned because I don't know what kind of
volume he would have. But give me your thoughts real
quick on Michael Gallop. Well, you already said it, Mike.
You nailed why he's not really a great fantasy play.
Dallas is not going to have that kind of offense.
We're gonna throw the wall up and down the field.
We all know what's going to Zee Elliott when he signs,
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and it's gonna go to Cooper witness back, so he'll
get a bunch of little throws. Yes, they'll take deep
shots to Gallop, but until the end of last season,
those deep shots weren't working and it wasn't gallus. Well,
Dack just wasn't hitting him. He was missing open gallop.
But he's going to be third fourth on the target
list there and on reads it's third fourth as wealth.
That's not where Prescott's going to look. So I think
taking gallop is more of a hope than anything else.
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That we got an action packed show today, guest three
guests total. Davis Maddicker is gonna join us right after
the break. We gotta talk to Little Bowski, the little
joining us and our number two at our number three
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to we Can Fantasy Update. Thanks you for joinings this morning,
and we're gonna bring in a guest here in a moment,
Davis Maddock. Uh. You can find him on Twitter at
Davis Maddock. He's gonna be He's been writing a ton
of content on Rodo Experts dot com, the NFL Pre
sixty five package. He sar overseas that and puts out
a lot of content. And I wanted to reach out
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to him this week for for two reasons. One his
chiefs played last night to uh. He wrote an article
on three running backs who will swing your fantasy football league.
So first, Davis, what's going on man? How you been? Hey,
how's it going doing? Thanks for having Nick? Who was
what was your highlight of Lallapaluza. You told me you
went to Lallapalooza, So who's the highlight for you? Well?
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Highlight had to be Tampino do Donald Glover and said,
and I got up, got a very close as it
was a long and hot experience, is definitely worth it. Nice, nice,
uh good stuff. So, uh, Chiefs played last night, obviously
a preseason game. There's only so much information that you
can glean from it because the starters aren't in long
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but uh, they look sharp to start. I don't think
the Poles are going to be a scary team this
year by any stretch of the imagination, but picking up
where they left off just a year ago. I mean,
I think my play Bates take away was not of
very many teams We're gonna score thirty eight points in
the preseason. So I kind of think Andy really has
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that whole teaming drilled down pretty well, and that even
running that vanilla offense, you know, they still had guys
in there on the third strings. We were ready to
put that point. I was. I was pretty impressied by
the performance and pretty much from the top down. Hey Davis,
is Joe here? Thanks for joining us. So Andy Reid
making it some some noise this week talking about maybe
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Chiefs might be using running back by committee. Uh, first
of all, do you believe them? You know, some people
thinking that maybe he's just looking to the light of
fire under Damian Williams. We saw Darwin Thompson uh performed
pretty well last night. So what do you think about
the Chiefs back field this season? Do I think any
time a coach makes comdiments about like a running back
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by committee after the starter has got out with injury
for a couple of weeks, and you think it's a
good way to motivate the guys who were taking all
those training camp snaps, well, the running gays, like, well,
the lead guys basically just taking a vacation. And Damian Williams,
he's he's hanging off on the side, he's in the
cryo chamber, and Carlified and John Thompson and Darren Williams
are out there in the you know, they're out there
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in the hundred five degree heat, full pads, taking all
those reps. So I think it's just a good way
to keep the whole running back room motivated. I do
think probably that he's gonna he is going to lose
some of the early down work at times. Hide that
I moved Damien down. I think like three spots overall
in my rankings, But I'm not like scared. Please say, hey, Davis,
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this is Georgia. You've got three man booth here today. Uh,
we're in a house draft on Friday, and Ezekiel Elliott
fella one st when I consider one slot to number five.
If this this wasn't money league, about a hundred hollars
for a team here, you're a major money lead. Let's
let's say two D and above here. Where are you
taking Elliot? Are you afraid right now? Is what I'm asking.
Are you worried that maybe he's not coming back to
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Dallas that time soon? I am. I am not worried Dallas, Dallas.
They're gonna pay him. The organizations can put on you
know that the poker space right now, but they're gonna
pay him. If he's not there. Uh, you know, by
the week before the first game, they will reach out
to his representation and figure out what needs to be done.
I think the most reasonable way to write you is
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just to take him fourth. Overall. Do you take you
take Barkley, you take Tomorrow, and you take mccapole ahead
of them because there is zero present risk that they
hold out, and then you you just take into account
whatever risk there is for Elliott, and you just take
in for Yeah, in that draft, somebody took Levian over
Zeke Elliott. I'm not on board with that. So producer
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yang he had a bad training. Yeah, apparently I heard
you think the Bears defense in like the tenth round,
so you know we're not talking about draft. Yeah, So
all right, David, So this article three running backs that
will swing your fantasy league. You you wrote this because
these three running backs in particular, and they are Josh Jacobs,
Aaron Jones, and Leonard for Net, are guys that are
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a little bit more difficult to predict. As you stay
in here, running backs that are not in a first
round or become a little bit more difficult to project,
there's a wider range of outcomes. So I'll start with
Josh Jacobs. He said, you say here, he's the one
you find yourself drafting the most often. He's the cheapest
of the three. But uh, the real the issues for
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Jacob reaching his upside is clear. He was not a
very good prospect as he backed up third round picked
Damian Harris at Alabama. He ran about forty time. Plus
there's all obviously questions about how good this Raider's offense
will beat Antonio Brown. Thing aside, So give me your
thoughts really on Jacobs in general? Why are you still
drafting him the most of the three. Basically, the reason
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to take Jacobs is that he was in first round
drastic and when a running back is dropping in the
first round, just historically speaking, that means as long as
the guy that get he's gonna be pretty much by
far the lead running back for his team for like
the entirety of the season. And I believe the number
that was in that article at all running backstrafting the
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post round. Have a running back one season or better
in the rookie year, and then that alone is pretty
much enough for me to pay Jay Good in the
fourth round because of that offense is even like lead average.
Jacobs probably gets in touchdowns, you know, touches or something
like that, and that like that sort of season in
the fourth round can really swing your league, uh Jatavis.
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She also wrote about Aaron Jones and Packers offense has
been in the news because of the little things between
new head coach Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers. What do
you think Matt Lafleur Flora brings to this offense? I
mean he was there for Todd Gurley his breakout season
as the offensive coordinator from the Rams. Do you think
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that that he's gonna give the rock to uh to
Jones enough to justify him being a number one running back?
But you worried a little bit about Jamal Williams that
you've taken some compas away from him. I'm definitely a
little worried about Jamal Williams just because Aaron Jones got
a very good pass blocker. But I'm also worried about
Dexter Williams as well. Uh, they're sixth ground draft pick,
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a guy who had like a really good combine. The
team seems to like I get, it's already started to
play well in the preseason. They're worry with Jones is
just that running back the Packers haven't had h you know,
one solid running back steen for Eddie Lacy, and I
know that the different coaching staff and you know, just
a different organizational structure. But the common trend is, of
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course Rogers, who isn't really like the throad who was
running back either. So the situation we could be looking
at with Jones is where he gets a bunch of
early gotten work, but between throws in the red zone,
Aaron Rodgers doesn't throw the running back. You know, he
might get two carries, but he might only end up
getting forty tr It's eight touchdowns. You know, in that scenario,
you're pretty bummed out that you drafted him. M hm, Davis,
(25:08):
all right, we'll talk about the other problem here, Ezekie Elliott.
I agree with you. Why I'm still drafting imaged. I
drafted him fifth overall. I on the problem with that.
How about Antonio Brown? I mean, are you drafted Antonio Brown?
He's got the helmet thing now, which is a complete joke,
the feet thing where apparently phrases his feet off. This
guy's glory around here. I'm assuming you've dropped him somewhat.
How far have you dropped him? And would you personally
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draft him? I dropped him a little bit, like I
moved him back on um stefarm bigs and branded coast,
but I didn't I already had him kind of blow. However,
I found that he was doing way too low. I
hired it up from the draft Beastball Championship draft, like
wow that all those threads were coming out on Twitter,
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and I took him I think three separate times in
the fourth round, which just felt like a very good
value to me. Okay, the last guy in this article
you wrote again. You can find Davis on Twitter at
Davis Maddock and you can find all his work on
roto experts dot com. He's a good follow on Twitter
and certainly provides a lot of great information for your
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fantasy football league. So the third guy is Leonard four Nett,
and I can understand personally while you'd be hesitant in
drafting him, but given the fact that they're going to
run the ball so much, if you were to stay healthy,
that's where his upside lies. Right. This may not be
an efficient offense, but there's only a really three draftable
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play draftable pieces on this whole Jaguars team. It's the
Jaguars defense for Net and then D D. Westbrook. Yeah
that is that is really it. And I mean for
Net probably more than any other player in fantasy football.
This yere can really put me in a coffin because
that I just had that drafted him at all. And
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if you're looking at importants, I mean, we're two years
and made from Jacksonville, leading the NFL and rushing attempts.
Baltimore probably will this here. But if that defense plays.
You know, they like if they end up having the
best defense in the NFL, they'll just give torn at
the ball five times a game. And if they're using
in the passing game, like, there's definitely some ways where
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four net has like you know, he finishes as the
third back running back in fantasy. I'm just not sitting
sm alright, Uh, sticking with the running backs. Uh, David
Montgomery Devin Singletary, two rookie running backs. Uh, you can
get that. David Montgomery Bears running back much earlier than
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Devin Singletary. Talk to me about what you think of
about their outlook. I mean, you know, David Montgomery looked
good in his first preseason game. He's got the Tariko
and there Mike Davis, uh Singletary has got you know,
the old man, Frank Gore and t J. Yelden. I mean,
who do you think makes the biggest uh Fantasy impact
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this season? Who do you want to own? Of those two?
Montgomery is a pretty tough sell for me. So the
team spends six million dollars from free agency on my Davis.
They have Parry Cullen, who would you know, by far
the most efficient player on offense last season. Uh, they
only finished sixteenth in the NFL and and yards per
play nineteens in the NFL and points scored. People think
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their offense is a lot better because, h you know,
they ran a lot of cool plays. Taylor Gabriel has
Google games with the Bears offense is actually not that good.
H Like, I'm a converse doesn't single theory. Not not
a great prospect. But he's like free right. You can
get him in the third teams fourteen round, which just
doesn't matter. And he's got a He's got a very
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similar chance of starting in the basketball offense that Montgomery
does in the Bears offense. I think I think the
teams view them almost the exact same way. At the
for whatever reason, the market views them as markedly different players.
David's took a little draft strategy here. Are you one
of those guys? Are you come table taking Travis Kelsey
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round one or Kiddle and Arts the end of round two,
top of round three? Do you like how your team
looks when you do that? Personally? I don't. But how
do you feel about taking Arts Kiddle in the top
three rounds? I feel pretty good about taking Kelsey in
the first round, our projections on roato experts dot com
having like forty two fifty points better than Kittle Inerts
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like like basically in an entire tier of his own.
And you know, I'm pretty big on zero running back
drafting anyways, so starting that out with the best tight
end and fantasy football is like, that's a great way
for your team to project better, even though zero running
back teams never project well. Davis, uh, with all your
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best ball again? You know, I find him on Twitter
at Davis Maddock and all of his work on roado
experts dot com. So of all your best balls that
you've done to this point, I was tracking some of
your progress, reading some of your articles and Twitter. But
now that you've gotten through a whole bunch more, who
are the players that you find yourself owning the most
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couple of guys? Two three guys um Large Jackson a quarterback,
Justice Hill and Tony Collard and Edo Smith at running
back and uh uh Kenny Stills a wide receiver are
probably the guys who I have the most just because
our projection at them is like four to five round
values versus what their DT is. Nice. So Davis, looking
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at the draft board of the draft that you guys
did for F and T s y Uh the other
day and ninth round you've got Kitlin Blage from the Dolphins. Uh.
How do you think that that that backfield shakes up?
I mean this could be a little value pick based
on you know what we're seeing very early with the
Bellage getting a lot of work with the first uh
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first team. So, uh, what do you think about the
workload between Bellage and king A Drake this season? It
should probably be right like right around fifty fifties. Again,
that's how it was in the first preseason game. Drake
came out in the first series, looks pretty good. The
Lodge came out in the second series, looks pretty good,
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and then scored a touchdown. Actually got more work in
the receiving game than I thought he would as well.
I think basically they should have a very similar a DPS.
I think it should kind of be how the Tample
Day guys both going on the tenth round most of
the time. I kind of think that's how the Miami
backfield should be viewed. Davis. Uh, how do you feel
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about they taking a quarterback? The tight ends? You're okay with?
When do you take it to a quarter Would you
take Pat Mahomes in round two? Would you want to wait?
You look up a value later on? There's so many
quarterbacks And does that strategy change Jenny in a super
flex league? Uh? And it she looks like league. Yeah,
you could probably like you could take one like the
fourth or fifth round. That's what I did in the
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Scott Fish Full League. But no in general were taking
homes in the second and third in it. I mean
maybe if I have like a later pick in the
fourth round and Chris Godwin and Joss Jacobs and Brandon
Coast are all gone, I would think about it. Or
sometimes in the draft des while Chad been if I
drafts Coast in the first round, maybe I would take
my homes in the third, just to set up the
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back whether gen are I'm not a huge fan of it.
Good stuff. Thanks for john us this morning, Davison, and
I'll tell everybody out there you gotta follow him on
Twitter at Davis Maddock. Really good articles. He is the
number one Justice Hill truther. I would say, Davis, I'm
going to give you that Moniker. You've probably talked about
more than anybody else that I've seen, so you're in
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on the Ravens offense, probably because you're gonna be running
the ball so much, very very in the definitely the
number one, right. I hope that's sick. Yeah, So all right, thanks,
I appreciate you. Jonas this morning, we'll talk to against. Okay,
so all right, good stuff. So guys, Justice Hill, I'll
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let you comment both. Georgie First, Davis really just thinks
that Justice Hill, who has had a very productive collegiate career,
is going to be the guy that sort of taking
over the reins for mark Ingram at some point or
at least given his a DP, will have a pretty
big impact in this Ravens rushing offense. Well, I think
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before we get too much on a Raven's office, you
got to think how much is Lamar Jackson going to run?
How much are they going to run? Period? You know
last year there, that's all they did, right, Jackson coun't
really throw the ball. I assume he's made some modifications there.
He's got at least better at throwing the ball down
the field, right, So that's gonna take away some running obsortunities.
We've heard different reports from from what Baltimore first was
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the ten twelve times again Lamar Jackson, Well, damn, that's
a lot that we put in Jackson a coll from
by week ten if they do that, but that's still
they didn't run him. That's what's what he's good at here.
Well is he is? He still is running thrusting touchdowns.
You know there's one yard once. It's gonna be Lamar
ch actually, not Ingram because we think that's Ingles the
bigger back. That's where he would go. I like Justice Hill.
I like him a lot. I think it's for me
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though he's more of a reserve guy. Let's see what
happens here. I think he's one of the handcuff, so
I would draft them more than a handcuff over Ingram.
But I'm gonna slow my role as far as think
he's gonna be the next breakout guy here. Just too
much going on there in the backfields Edwards as well,
a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Yeah yeah, Justice
Hill went in first, uh, first pick of the tenth
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round the other day in this draft. I don't know
why the heck I wasn't in this draft, but whatever,
I'm sure you guys are scared that I'm gonna win
the whole thing. But nonetheless, uh, he was the first
pick of the tenth round. The other day, Justice Hill
went to Davis Mattock, who we just had on the phone. Well,
if I tell you, this draft was a little head passive.
We only I only found out a day before and
Jim and Jim day night, like what the hell it was?
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There was a money lead. Weren't even told it like
drafting tomorrow, money league, good good luck. It's like, okay,
you know, I think we had a scramble to make
sure we were free for It was a long draft, man.
I think it's like, you know, for for rap that
should be an hour and head this thing last almost
three hours. Was it was long? So Mike I would
take you to the place we'll hate you. Mike. I
guess I'm glad I wasn't in it. So Galina will
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let you comment Justice Hill and a couple of other
things from this draft. After the break, it's Mike, Joe
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that is the best DFS information out there. But okay,
so I was gonna talk about the Chiefs here, but
given the fact that you guys are George didn't a
draft and he sent over this draft board, I might
as well to take a look at some of this here.
Uh you know, our producer Yang who produces shows during
the week, particularly the afternoon and evening shows, he did
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have a rough draft. He drafted the Bears defense in
the eleventh round, and he drafted Levi On Bell Older, g. Kelliott,
and David Johnson and uh, who else you got. He's
got Damian Williams here in the third round. It's not
Terry Tyler, Boyd, Cooper Cup Amari Cooper. That is not
a powerful wide receiving group. Shot Penny, there's something there. Uh,
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and that's a lot of Seattle. I don't know. I
wouldn't want to be that in on Seattle with DK
metcalf Amrashod Penny. Anyway, Uh, George, how did this draft
for you? How do you feel that this draft turned out? You,
Kim and you came in at the five slot and
you got Zeke Elliott, So that was a surprise. But
now you Mike Kevans, carry on Johnson, Josh Jacobs. We
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just got off the phone with Davis Maddock who talked
about Josh Jacobs. Uh, give me your thoughts on him? Uh?
This year? Yeah, I mean the draft was an interesting
um when they did, They're they're actually picking the draft
that order out live through one of the helmets there
in studio, and I'm like, uh, just I don't I
don't want the fifth pick, you know, I didn't want them.
I was pretty sure what what what happened was going
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to happen. One of the top four would not take
Elliott because the whole doubt they'll be worried about it.
He knew Barkley was going once CMC Camaro would probably go.
So Yang was the wild card there. You know, he's
the producer, not considering an expert in analyst. So I
was wondering what he would do, and he let him go.
And yeah, this is a money league. This is not
a fun league, he says from cash here. So for me,
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I'm sticking to my words here on all those shows.
I believe Elliott signs by week one and plays week one.
But as the Giants, I don't think Jones will let
us go manly because it's his ego. Though he knows
Dallas as a shot this year and he's not gonna
let uh. He's not gonna let you know, hold out
by Elliott ruin his team's chances, and it would ruin
his team's chances. He could say whatever he wants on
the only shuh, you know, appearances Elliott not showing up
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person the team. So I took with Elliott, Evans was
an easy choice. Carry On Johnson Josh Jacobs was a
b P A pick. As I said it while we
were on air here, I did not plan on taking
another running back. Three running backs in the top four
rounds to me was unusual. I didn't want to take
a wide receiver here, but I didn't think I could
pass up on him. He was the last running back
in that tier rask guy that I I wanted. You know,
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there's two flexes in this league. We always start two
wide receivers. That's key to remember here. We only start
to not three. We have two flexes, so I can
start all these running backs each and every week, as
far as Zeke Johnson and Jacobs, and that's where I
took him. And that's purely why I hope Antonio Brown's
in camp. Obviously, that will help immensely if he's there.
It takes away uh defensive pressure on the on the
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running game. And I think Brown will show by the
way he's there's no way he's not gonna play over
a helmet issue and give up fifty million dollars. That's
not happening. But there you know what's gonna There is
that worry. But for me, j I said, j Jacobs
was all about the b P A man. It's just
too good, too good a player to pass up at
that point. Get that Kiddle in the fifth round too,
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It's pretty That's that's a that really helps a lot
um with any questions you might have about somebody like Jacobs.
You locked up one of the top three tight ends. Um,
I'm not surprised considering Kelsey went in the second round,
that both Kittle and Earth's waited all the way to
the fifth round to get Risen. Right, that seems a
little uh, it seems a little those ADPs would be tighter. Yeah, yeah,
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I agree, but you know you've got most of the
experts here so they know they could wait a little bit.
But write those top three do seem to go, you know,
failure you in the rounds. And I wanted to ask
George real quick, what tipped the scales for you in
terms of taking Kiddle over Earth's. Was it the god
or to this, you know, being in the background. Uh,
you know when I took the when I had when
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I took Josh Jacobs, I actually was thinking of taking
Kidle of Arts in the fourth round. But I'm like,
you know what, after Jacobs, there's only eight more picks.
I had, Kiddle and Arts were both there, one might
fall to me. I honestly was hoping somebody would take one.
I would just take the other and make my decision
for me. What I guess, I guess I guess turned
thee a quipment for me was purely the fact that, yeah,
Carson Wentz has a lot of other weapons to throw
the ball there too, you know, Jeffreys there, you know
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and listen. I mean I was looking for an excuse
not to take one guy with the other, and there's
really not in my mind, is not much there other
than Kiddle, where as Wentz really has plenty of other
options to throw too if you don't want to throw
them all perfect left them right. But that being said,
anybody who tells me, oh, I have Art's ranked higher
than Kittle, I'm not arguing with you. That's fine. I'm
more than okay with that. I would have taken arts
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to Uh. I had to take one. One had to
go the three. One had to take it to. If
I said, if if Yang Chris venture my cardno Junior
or Dane would have taken U tight in there, I
sort have taken another. And I've been very happy at
not having to make a decision, Joe, which one would
you take first? Kidl or Earth's you know, looking at
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it now, I might take Kittle because of of what
George had said in terms of uh, you know, Wentz
having a lot of different options there, and and we
just talked about the forty nine is offense where you know, uh,
there's really no uh wide receiver one per se, right,
I mean Kiddle is gonna be You even said it
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earlier that Kiddle is gonna be the the target hound there.
So looking at it now and looking at the pick,
it looks good to me. I think I think I
would do the same. I'm just just a huge fan
of Earth's trying not to let that stuff influence me,
but I think I would take Earth's first. And everything
you guys said is logical. There really is. This is
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why we didn't invite you on the show, Mike. There
are there are obviously other options in Philly where there
aren't as many established options that we are aware of
in San France. So, um, I don't know. I still
thinks I got I got earts in scott fish bowl,
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but the others had already been taken, so that would
really I think, like Kurt said, there's really no rong
answer here. Yeah, And Fantasy Taz yesterday turned me on
with that that he said that uh Kittle's numbers, you know,
we're slightly better when Nick Mullens was quarterbacking as opposed
to when Garoppolo was quarterback, and we had only had
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a very small sample size of both quarterbacks, and take
it for what for what it's worth, But that's fantasy, Taz. Yeah,
I think that's it's probably more related to sample size
than anything else. Obviously you have in here, or at
least you know, like George, Like George said earlier, there's
a lot being given to Jimmy Garoppolo monetarily and respect
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wise that hasn't necessarily been earned. I think people do
see the talent, and you could probably say the same
thing for any quarterback that gets drafted in the first round, right,
they get a whole bunch of money before they get
a chance to prove it. Guys like Baker go out
and do it. Jimmy g has to go out and
do it for the Niners, obviously. I just have found
it interesting that that same hype that was there a
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year ago just doesn't exist for what is a lot
of the same pieces. You know, Jimmy coming off that injury,
but quarterback, you know, given eleven months to hell, I
think he'll be all right. So okay, so a couple
other things. Let me see some other things from this draft.
Uh came out, George, you did not draft a quarterbacks.
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Cheez you see that fun every right, It's like George
been saying, all Sason the one the eleventh round, Matt Ryan,
there was a quarterback run there obviously went Luck Ryan
and Breuees Wilson and then uh yeah, all in that round.
But if you're in a single QB draft with a
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bunch of experts, it's just a waiting game. Most of
the guys waited until double digit rounds to pick up
a QB. Only four qbs went before the ninth pick
of the tenth round. Baker and Rogers went back to back,
and Mahomes and Watson had gone before that. Where did
Luck go? Here? Luck right before Matt Ryan. So um,
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everybody just waited all day and help Georgie Cuckager Cousins
as your backup in the fift round. You're just souping
up backup QB before the draft ends. So I think
George is onto something. Joe. He has told me in
the past that at this at this stage, given the
way that people that are a depth of fantasy football raft,
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you should have just all go to super flex now
because there's almost no strategy and drafting a QB anymore. Yeah, absolutely,
uh and yeah, super flex and the two quarterback leads
keeps you more honest, right, I mean, you know, uh,
those you know top four or five picks kind of
written in stone, you know, the Barkleys and McCaffrey's as
a Kimara, the Elliotts, and you know you want to
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throw Bell in there as well. But yeah, I mean, personally,
I think it's the only way to go. And I
love what Scottie Fishball has done that brought it to
the forefront. The the flex, the super flex. Yeah, George,
you're you're basically only trying to play in super flex
leagues unless you get wrangled into a a the network
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league like this. You're really looking for super flex leagues
at this point, correct. Yeah, It's been my favorite type
of league for a long time. My home league has
been super flex forever. You know, I did years, even
there was when Quarterbucks wasn't as the and you just
said at quarter it's extremely deep. I got Kirk Cousins
for free in the fifteenth round. It's like a sixteen
round draft, and I think was taking as a backup
because quarterbacks go deep. I mean it's it's it's a
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great time. The NFL quarterbacks all the rules of meant
far hmat also and it's it's a good time. Yeah.
And even you said Matt took Matt Ryan around eleven.
I the only thing. I took Matt Ryan around eleven,
by the way, because I was running out of players
that I liked on my board at any of the position.
I hated everybody like, fine, I'll take the quarterbacks. I
liked the quarterbacks. Uh. And I was ready with someone
to take Luck. I I thought about Luck round beforehand,
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but um, I am worried someone about that cat, This
never ending calf injury. This is taking forever. It's a joke.
He's has his O t A. So he's starting to
scare me a little bit. He's starting to remind me
of someone who just doesn't heal very well. He just
doesn't heal very well. So I wasn't taking Luck. And
when Ryan was as soon as Luck was taken, it
was great. Then Yank took a Chicago bearret defense, and
then it was an easy choice for me to think
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Matt Ryan, I had in the top five this season,
think he's gonna have a great year, and uh easy
choice I did. I can tell you honestly. In round
six when I took Allen Robinson, I gave a lot
of thought to take it to Shawn Watson because he
had fawn. There was value there, even though I'd like
to wait on quarterback. I thought there was value in
de Shawan Watson because he did full But in the
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end I needed a receiving there, and as you see,
I went on a little white receiver run there to
make up to Josh Jacobs. I couldn't get a solid
number two there. I went with a whole bunch of quantity,
maybe of a quality, and w I wasn't Shepherd Sanders
and the Shawan Jackson. But if you're playing a leave
with people who know what they're doing, I think you're
gonna see this in a lot of leagues, but the
one quarterback league, you can wait forever on a quarterback day.
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Martinez spitting speeds on Twitter and we've all had done
shows with him. He waited till the fourteenth round and
he just went on the turn. He just picked back
to back QB's. He went with Jamis Winston and Ben Roethlisberger,
and he didn't pick one until the last pick of
the fourteenth round, and those are the guys that he got.
I guarantee one of those guys, I'd I'd nearly guarantee
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that one of those guys cracked the top two out
of Fantasy this year. They both cute, but one of them.
Absolutely yeah, I agree as yeah, I wouldn't think you
neither one of those over Winston over Cousins, by the way,
I wanted them both. Unfortunately, Uh, they both went before
I could go, and I took Cousins. The funny thing
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about this draft, I didn't tell these guys during any
uh the draft, but the last I think the last
four or five picks my Maxie, my daughter made. I said,
this draft took forever. It's just the over by as
we did it during Fantasy Frenzy and uh and best
friends forever, something over seen one and three, I mean,
and there were guys taking forever. You're on air, you're
not paying attention. I get it. But I had to
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pick up my nis at the train station three fifteen.
I had to leave, and I told my daughter was
all mixed works twelve. She wanted to come. She has
nothing about fantasy football, you know, and uh, I just toold.
I gave you the list. I'm like she knew. She
knows at a work computer, like listen, just hit draft.
I don't care he takes list last four picks. So
I'm glad she took Cousins and so not someone who
was much worse. Yeah, I told her, just don't you know,
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don't take cowboys because Daddy likes cowboys. All right, just
take guys at the top of the list. It's the
list four picks. You know, I'll live with it. After that,
says you did, okay, Yeah, I got right. Quill armstet
for four at the ramps. Defense is fine. She knew
she had to take the defense, had told him that,
and I wanted to backup tight end as well. So
I guess you had the list. I left at the
matt right, and that's what I took the quarterback, and
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she took everybody after that. So my question do you
question do you sho would you there's several teams on
here that are only rostering one quarterback. Are you the
type joke Gilina that feels like he needs to get
that backup quarterback like George did with Cousins, or are
you gonna roll with the one QB because if you
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know somebody like Philip Rivers, the teams that only have
one QB have Philip Rivers, Pat Mahomes, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson,
Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield. All of those teams are only
rostering those quarterbacks. So they probably feel if there guy
gets hurt, let's just pick somebody else up on the
waiver wire. But do you feel like you have to
have a back cup like George did, or we roll
with one QB. Yeah. I used to roll with one
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QB and last year I rolled with Garoppolo and he
got hurt obviously for the season, So I think part
of it is just uh recency bias on my part.
So this season, I'm gonna make sure that I get
a backup quarterback because in this league where Garoppolo went down, uh,
it was a non expert league and everybody went nuts
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drafting you know, quarterbacks, and it really wasn't much on
the waiver wire. So I think it kind of depends
on your specific draft and maybe even recently bias on
your part, But based on what happened to me last year,
I like to get that second quarterback. Uh on my roster, George,
based on the fact that you just drafted the second
QB in this draft. Are you married to that? Or
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would you roll with one QB in a in a
given league. So it's really unlucky. This was the unlucky
ast of me not being at the draft hurt because
I said, when I left this h I said, I
looked at the draft. I told my daughter, you know,
I told the positions to look. I want to the
backup quarterback, backup tight end. Uh, they're running back wide receiver,
and then she could pick which every one you wanted
running back up wide receiver. If I had been here
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and seeing how this draft went when I took Kirk Cousins,
I think they were only about it was like thirteen
quarterbacks taken. I would not have taken Cousins because they
would have been plenty left on the wave of wire.
This is one of those things, right, no one was
taking it back up or quarterback. I guessed that people
would take back up quarterbacks this league because I love
the things I'm playing in. People are taking two quarterbacks,
and I didn't want to be left without, you know,
people left to left that a decent backup when the
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music stopped. So, like I said, uh, if I would
have been there live seeing the draft was playing out,
I would not have taken Kirk Cousins. I assumed, and
you know when you assume, you make an ass out
of you and made I made a mistake there. That's it.
I would remember. If I hate all the players that
are left, maybe I'll take a second QB really late,
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like George did rolling one. My starter gets hurt as
I got to go to the ways others tode. We're
gonna talk athec West in the second hour, starting off
with the Chiefs. After the break. That's Mike, George and
Joe will be right back. Yeah,
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find this show. So we've got a lot going on today.
Many guests, Uh many? Is that many? We got three guests.
(01:25):
We got a few guests, several few. Yeah, I think
that's not enough for several, it's probably a few. So yeah. Anyway,
three three hosts, three guests. So that's we're at today.
And the voice you here right there is Joe Glina. Joe,
how are you doing? Great? Glad to be with you
guys on this Sunday. We have some real live football
(01:45):
games that we'll talk about, and we saw some some
good stuff. So yeah, right, yeah, George gets really fired
up for preseason. Uh really does barn Burner in l
a s in Oakland yesterday fourteen three Raiders rams. We'll
get into those in a moment. But that other sarcastic
yea that you heard is from George Kurt, George, how
are you? Well? You know, it's preseason, man, we all
(02:09):
know what. We're all excited. That's all football. And then
you know way next week and you're like, oh man,
what is this preseason crop going through? End? It's bad football.
It's boring. I mean I watched the Cowboy game like
midnight last night and it's like, you gotta be kidding me?
What am I doing here? And I'm and I have
to I have to record it anyway, doesn't matter. I'll
record it next week too, and week for you, I'll
record it, assuming it's not. I can't watch it live.
(02:30):
So it's just annoying, you know, a little pet peeve
of mine. Uh you know you said the three hosts here.
That bothers me. You're you're you're the host, Mike Blue,
it's the host. Joe and I are analysts today to
co host to analyst, right, to analysts, right, that's what
that's what our where job is. And you know, uh,
(02:51):
you know, later on the weekend wages, I'll be hosting
Joe be the analysts. Usually I'm the analyst. So it's
a pet peeve of mind, even though I know were
you know, through the bigger ups. That's what the cool
as a co as co hosts. But we're really not.
This is this is Mike Show Today. That's my way
of saying that the show sucks. It's Mike's fold. We've
we've gone off to I'm on three hours sleep here,
(03:12):
all right, so I'm a little tired. Put something into
his coffee. Apparently a bit of a car mudgeon to
this morning, right, and it's so pepsi, pepsi from last
night too. By the way, I don't think this is
not a new one, but it's on my desk. I'm
drinking it amazing. So at George Kurtz, at Joe Galina,
nothing fancied with the Twitter handles. I'm at Mike Blewett. So, uh,
(03:36):
quick baseball note. I don't know if you folks have
been watching a baseball all year, but the Orioles are terrible.
They are one of the worst teams and they lost
twenty three to do last night. You get to start
off many shows with O's talk, but I figured you're
given the score and the manner in which the Yankees
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pounded them this past week. They at Sleep exceeded the
low or I don't even know what the term is
to use. They have a new low low based off
the Yankees pounding them into submission by giving up twenty
three runs to Houston last night. Pretty crazy. Alvarez, uh
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three home runs drove in seven runs last night. So
for those of you rostering him, good times for you.
Um So, all right, we could talk baseball, but we'll
probably put that on the back burner until later in
the show. We did have a few games last night.
You had the Chiefs playing the Bengals, and I think
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this probably played out like a regular season game, would Joe.
The Chiefs off to a really good start. Pat Mahomes Kelsey,
he's scrambling. They handed off to Carlos side. They drive
right down the field in that first quarter, just shredding
that Cincinnati defense. I think the Bengals are gonna be
probably one of the worst teams in the league, and
the Chiefs, at least off defensively, still gonna be one
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of the most high powered attacks in the NFL. Absolutely,
And we got to see also a little bit of
a running back Darwin Thompson, you know, other than the
guys that you know, we used to see him like
the kel season, the Mahomes like you mentioned, But Darwin Thompson,
uh running back looked depressive, leap frogging over the defender,
louding another defender on his way to a twenty nine
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yard T T D reception that was eventually called back.
Uh Mikole Hardman. How about that that little uh shovel pass?
The guy is fast right, uh Tyreek Hill Clone. So yeah,
the Chiefs look like they were in mid season fom
and you know they weren't even using their the starters
for a majority the game. Of course, Yeah, George, we're
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gonna have Davis Maddock, who's a big chief fan. We're
gonna talk to him about an article. This is in
the next twelve minutes or so. He's got an article
out about three running backs who can swing your fantasy
football league. We're talking about that. But also he happens
to be a Chiefs fan. He's located in Kansas City.
So we'll get deeper into the Chiefs. But uh, any
of the other games jump out to you said, you
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watched the Dallas game last night. Anything you can take
away from it or it's just like, you know, the
starters are barely in there, and uh, there's only so
much information you can clean out of it. But sevent
nine Dallas takes the l against the Niners last night,
I mean as far as the Cowboys because there are
no Elliott, no Cooper, the offense couldn't move. They kept
getting bogged down. No, I think it's much you can
(06:27):
take from it. Uh, we know as fantasy players, we've
all done multiple drafts already. Well preseason is is Please
don't get my player hurt. No, don't get get up,
Please get up. Don't get hurt. If you're a cowboysman,
you don't want your cowboys to get hurt. If I'm
a fantasy fan, I don't want my players to get hurt.
I'm watching the Steelers uh Bucks game now when NFL Network,
it's great network. They just replay games all the time.
It's fantastic. So you can sketch up on the games.
(06:50):
But no, I don't. It's not not in week one,
you know, because like I said, starters are gonna play
a series, maybe two. You know, as it goes on,
they play a quarter a half. This some things. Look
for the only I care about in preseason's two things,
all right, Look for guys who are injured last year,
how they come back? Do they look good? You know?
I mean specifically, Okay, it's a guy with charges who
(07:10):
got hurt last year. I may I'll look for a charge.
Might look see how we wunt their henry looks. I
know we came back in the playoffs, but maybe I
want to look to see how he looks at positional battles.
You know that. I want to see that, you know,
see who looks better? So I get an idea later
in a fantasy leaks that I'm gonna keep draftficking. Other
than that, preseason to me is pretty much a bunch
of hot, hot garbage. There's a reason they want to
get rid of half these games. Yeah, and from the
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Niner standpoint, you look up and down the line, no Garoppolo,
none of the three running backs that anybody's drafting played. Uh.
The only guy that will probably appear on some fantasy
teams down day. Pettis is getting a lot of love
in fantasy circles. He got one target, didn't catch it,
So Deebo Samuel a couple of catches last night too
for six one. We'll get into these uh, you know,
(07:54):
we'll we'll get into these teams like later in the hour.
You know, thoughts really on that, But why don't we
stick actually with the Niners for a second shoe. And
when it comes to the weapons that Garrappolo is gonna
have access to, gar Apple is going pretty late. He's
a QB two like forwards the into that QB two
(08:14):
conversation a year ago, everybody was really buying the hype
on him because of the Shanahan offense. Are you willing
to ratchet that back up and say that there's a
lot of upside for the players overall in this offense,
given the fact that Ka Shanahan is running the show.
I'm kind of lukewarm to it. I mean, there's a
(08:34):
lot of moving parts to this offense. You look at
their backfield. I mean, you know what's gonna happen there.
I mean we're looking at Kevin Coleman probably being the
main guy there. But what does that mean? You still
have uh, you know, you know McKinnon, Uh, you know, uh,
then Brita and in there and then the wide receivers.
You just had Trent Taylor go down and all of
(08:57):
a sudden, Jalen heard, everyone excited about Jalen heard. So
I mean, like I said, I mean, you know, Shanahan
does have a good resume of running the offenses. But
I'm not banking on the Fortune nine as being a
you know, the high powered, high octane offense this season. Yeah. Yeah, George.
A year ago, the hype was real for the Bears
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and the Niners, and I was trying to throw cold
water on it because I thought people were getting caught
up in the hype. Turns out that was wrong. On
the Bears Bears obviously had a great season. The Niners
fell apart after Jimmy g got hurt. So I don't
hear as much hype around it this year as I
did last year. And obviously you could argue that we
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know now Kittle is an established player. He breaks the
record for receiving yards in a season for a tight end,
and they've added more weapons. I get that there's question
marks with the wide receiver position, but given the fact
that we were hyping it last year and the group
wasn't fantastic, why not some similar hype this year? Oh?
(10:06):
I think once again, they're not the new toy anymore.
Last year they were in a toy, the new coach.
You know, Grapplo's gonna play his first full season. You know,
everybody wants everyone interest a new toy. What's gonna happen here?
And then it all came crashing down. Uh, Gucci got hurt,
didn't play part of the season, and then that's then
that's not not the hot to talk about anymore. Marky's
good when he was a hot new last year. Now
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he's you can direct in the nineties. Yeah, he's just
he's an ant though here. So I think a lot
of it that McKinnon once again back last year. Okay,
wait to get McKinnon a c L done. We never
see him, you know. Tevin Coleman was now that same
kind of hype here. Maybe because we think with Coleman guys,
I mean, maybe it's me because I had him on
a team or two. I thought it was disappointing. I mean,
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I know what you look at you look at his
yards per carrying. It's good. It's I think it's four
point three at four point seven, maybe one of those two.
But I mean I remember having him. There were so
many weeks treated nothing, I mean nothing at the starting
running back once a Freeman went down here. So I
think that's part it too. But I think it really
comes down to the new toy theory. They're not the
new toy now. Now we go to all these other
teams that have new quarterbacks, new coaches, new players, there's
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nobody really knew that this year. Colemans just doesn't excite anybody. Yeah,
I mean, Colvin Coleman started fourteen games last year. He
played in sixteen. He touched the ball a hundred ninety
nine times. The touchdowns were good. He had nine touchdowns.
But the George's point, like, the game logs were just frustrating.
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You can look if you didn't if you weren't dialed
in on it last year, George, to your point, you
would be like, oh, he had a pretty good season.
That's like. But but at the same point, Atlanta's offense
is legit. The other start the other, the starting running
back is out. Coleman is in a situation where he
could he earned a massive new contract and it just
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didn't happen. I'm just looking down his game logs. He
had to one yard rushing games to the whole year,
excuse me, um, and realistically, beyond that all purpose yards,
how many times did he go over a hundred? Those
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two and one other I think so three total. We're
scrimmage yards for over a hundred yards. The touchdowns were helpful,
but again I just felt like there was a much
greater opportunity for him to explode on the scene. He
gets a new contract from the Niners, but it isn't.
It isn't what Jerick McKinnon got from them the year before. George, No,
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it's not, it's not, And I don't know of when
it comes to calm, I guess he knows the systems,
what makes sense there. But you know, Garoppolo and you
guys know this. He hasn't even played sixteen games yet
one was a full season. You know, I listen. I
have faith in him. I think, you know, fantasy wise,
a good quarterback to it's some upside here. But outside
of Kittle, I mean, it is no, not much proven
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there in the in the receiving game. We love Kittle.
You know. We had the in house draft on uh
well anything house draft on Friday. I took Kittle, which
I'd never do. I don't like taking a tight end,
but he filter me. I thinking around six and I
grabbed Kittle, which is early to before a tight end
Generally I like to wait, uh one, two, three ft
Now I'll make that round five. So uh, I like.
I like it. A lot of these be great, but man,
I'd like to see something in the passing game. Imagine
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a good way you can get for free and drafts.
Dante Pettis okay, he's been drased as a wide receiving
four resly the three. Maybe Dievo Samuel we has some
hope for It's what Matthews his day at Trent tailor.
I mean, I don't know. I think this offense is
still working progress. Plus you're not here. Bosa has got
a significant ankle sprain. They're a first round pick, early
first round pick, and maybe you know everyone again we
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all know high ankle sprain. Boy, he may not be
back to October for all we know. And even it
comes back, he's gonna gonna be able to push you
off that ankle. We don't know. The Boss seems to
have problems that they both have had injuries like this.
So I think a lot of the uh, the blue
was of the rose here. He's a bad pun where
it's just they're just see they're just not sexy. Because
we don't know, there's really nobody's sixty on offense outside
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of Kid Went. It's hard to be sixty for a
tight unless a rock. You know, you're that kind of personality, Garblo.
We just don't know, we think, but we don't know.
Colemen is not exciting. There's nobody here that really goes,
oh wow. I can't wait to see him play. You know,
the kid of the tight end. I say tight end,
I don't think really does it for the most people. Yeah,
I wonder Joe. If Pennis is the guy, we have
actually seen him go pretty early, right, so he's going
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off the board right now nff C A DPS. He's
seventies second, so exactly into the sixth round, which for
a guy that hasn't really doesn't have a ton of
stats to back him up. I guess that's the guy
where people are buying the hype that he could be
just the number one wide receiver. He wouldn't be the
number one pass catcher. You have to assume that that's
(14:48):
kiddl still, but he could be the number one wide
receiver on the Niners in a Kyle channah An offense. Yeah,
he had that little blip the three or four weeks
last year where he that scored four touchdowns in three
weeks and then he had the five eight three game.
Uh So, I guess if you're looking for hope out
of this offense other than Kittle, it's it's got to
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be Pettis. But again, you know what is he overall?
What you say is a DP was he's probably at
best maybe a wide receiver three. Uh So, I mean
he's someone that you might want to, you know, take
a shot on a little later in drafts, but no
guarantees there. Yeah, yeah, uh George. Uh. We'll get into
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Dallas Um a little bit later in the show, but
as you said, he didn't really have anybody to to
base anything off of last night. As far as ADPs
are concerned, right now, you know the one guy I
think that we're going to be most curious about because
we know what Amory can be and obviously know z
he can be if when he shows up. Um. But
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as Michael Gallop, I think some are expecting Michael Gallop
to have a brig breakout season right here. I obviously
just get concerned because I don't know what kind of
volume he would have. But give me your thoughts real
quick on Michael Gallop. Well, you already said it, Mike.
You nailed why he's not really a great fantasy play.
Dallas is not going to have that kind of offense.
We're gonna throw the wall up and down the field.
We all know what's going to Zee Elliott when he signs,
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and it's gonna go to Cooper witness back, so he'll
get a bunch of little throws. Yes, they'll take deep
shots to Gallop, but until the end of last season,
those deep shots weren't working and it wasn't gallus. Well,
Dack just wasn't hitting him. He was missing open gallop.
But he's going to be third fourth on the target
list there and on reads it's third fourth as wealth.
That's not where Prescott's going to look. So I think
taking gallop is more of a hope than anything else.
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That we got an action packed show today, guest three
guests total. Davis Maddicker is gonna join us right after
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to we Can Fantasy Update. Thanks you for joinings this morning,
and we're gonna bring in a guest here in a moment,
Davis Maddock. Uh. You can find him on Twitter at
Davis Maddock. He's gonna be He's been writing a ton
of content on Rodo Experts dot com, the NFL Pre
sixty five package. He sar overseas that and puts out
a lot of content. And I wanted to reach out
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to him this week for for two reasons. One his
chiefs played last night to uh. He wrote an article
on three running backs who will swing your fantasy football league.
So first, Davis, what's going on man? How you been? Hey,
how's it going doing? Thanks for having Nick? Who was
what was your highlight of Lallapaluza. You told me you
went to Lallapalooza, So who's the highlight for you? Well?
(18:24):
Highlight had to be Tampino do Donald Glover and said,
and I got up, got a very close as it
was a long and hot experience, is definitely worth it. Nice, nice,
uh good stuff. So, uh, Chiefs played last night, obviously
a preseason game. There's only so much information that you
can glean from it because the starters aren't in long
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but uh, they look sharp to start. I don't think
the Poles are going to be a scary team this
year by any stretch of the imagination, but picking up
where they left off just a year ago. I mean,
I think my play Bates take away was not of
very many teams We're gonna score thirty eight points in
the preseason. So I kind of think Andy really has
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that whole teaming drilled down pretty well, and that even
running that vanilla offense, you know, they still had guys
in there on the third strings. We were ready to
put that point. I was. I was pretty impressied by
the performance and pretty much from the top down. Hey Davis,
is Joe here? Thanks for joining us. So Andy Reid
making it some some noise this week talking about maybe
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Chiefs might be using running back by committee. Uh, first
of all, do you believe them? You know, some people
thinking that maybe he's just looking to the light of
fire under Damian Williams. We saw Darwin Thompson uh performed
pretty well last night. So what do you think about
the Chiefs back field this season? Do I think any
time a coach makes comdiments about like a running back
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by committee after the starter has got out with injury
for a couple of weeks, and you think it's a
good way to motivate the guys who were taking all
those training camp snaps, well, the running gays, like, well,
the lead guys basically just taking a vacation. And Damian Williams,
he's he's hanging off on the side, he's in the
cryo chamber, and Carlified and John Thompson and Darren Williams
are out there in the you know, they're out there
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in the hundred five degree heat, full pads, taking all
those reps. So I think it's just a good way
to keep the whole running back room motivated. I do
think probably that he's gonna he is going to lose
some of the early down work at times. Hide that
I moved Damien down. I think like three spots overall
in my rankings, But I'm not like scared. Please say, hey, Davis,
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this is Georgia. You've got three man booth here today. Uh,
we're in a house draft on Friday, and Ezekiel Elliott
fella one st when I consider one slot to number five.
If this this wasn't money league, about a hundred hollars
for a team here, you're a major money lead. Let's
let's say two D and above here. Where are you
taking Elliot? Are you afraid right now? Is what I'm asking.
Are you worried that maybe he's not coming back to
(20:58):
Dallas that time soon? I am. I am not worried Dallas, Dallas.
They're gonna pay him. The organizations can put on you
know that the poker space right now, but they're gonna
pay him. If he's not there. Uh, you know, by
the week before the first game, they will reach out
to his representation and figure out what needs to be done.
I think the most reasonable way to write you is
(21:19):
just to take him fourth. Overall. Do you take you
take Barkley, you take Tomorrow, and you take mccapole ahead
of them because there is zero present risk that they
hold out, and then you you just take into account
whatever risk there is for Elliott, and you just take
in for Yeah, in that draft, somebody took Levian over
Zeke Elliott. I'm not on board with that. So producer
(21:42):
yang he had a bad training. Yeah, apparently I heard
you think the Bears defense in like the tenth round,
so you know we're not talking about draft. Yeah, So
all right, David, So this article three running backs that
will swing your fantasy league. You you wrote this because
these three running backs in particular, and they are Josh Jacobs,
Aaron Jones, and Leonard for Net, are guys that are
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a little bit more difficult to predict. As you stay
in here, running backs that are not in a first
round or become a little bit more difficult to project,
there's a wider range of outcomes. So I'll start with
Josh Jacobs. He said, you say here, he's the one
you find yourself drafting the most often. He's the cheapest
of the three. But uh, the real the issues for
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Jacob reaching his upside is clear. He was not a
very good prospect as he backed up third round picked
Damian Harris at Alabama. He ran about forty time. Plus
there's all obviously questions about how good this Raider's offense
will beat Antonio Brown. Thing aside, So give me your
thoughts really on Jacobs in general? Why are you still
drafting him the most of the three. Basically, the reason
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to take Jacobs is that he was in first round
drastic and when a running back is dropping in the
first round, just historically speaking, that means as long as
the guy that get he's gonna be pretty much by
far the lead running back for his team for like
the entirety of the season. And I believe the number
that was in that article at all running backstrafting the
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post round. Have a running back one season or better
in the rookie year, and then that alone is pretty
much enough for me to pay Jay Good in the
fourth round because of that offense is even like lead average.
Jacobs probably gets in touchdowns, you know, touches or something
like that, and that like that sort of season in
the fourth round can really swing your league, uh Jatavis.
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She also wrote about Aaron Jones and Packers offense has
been in the news because of the little things between
new head coach Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers. What do
you think Matt Lafleur Flora brings to this offense? I
mean he was there for Todd Gurley his breakout season
as the offensive coordinator from the Rams. Do you think
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that that he's gonna give the rock to uh to
Jones enough to justify him being a number one running back?
But you worried a little bit about Jamal Williams that
you've taken some compas away from him. I'm definitely a
little worried about Jamal Williams just because Aaron Jones got
a very good pass blocker. But I'm also worried about
Dexter Williams as well. Uh, they're sixth ground draft pick,
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a guy who had like a really good combine. The
team seems to like I get, it's already started to
play well in the preseason. They're worry with Jones is
just that running back the Packers haven't had h you know,
one solid running back steen for Eddie Lacy, and I
know that the different coaching staff and you know, just
a different organizational structure. But the common trend is, of
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course Rogers, who isn't really like the throad who was
running back either. So the situation we could be looking
at with Jones is where he gets a bunch of
early gotten work, but between throws in the red zone,
Aaron Rodgers doesn't throw the running back. You know, he
might get two carries, but he might only end up
getting forty tr It's eight touchdowns. You know, in that scenario,
you're pretty bummed out that you drafted him. M hm, Davis,
(25:08):
all right, we'll talk about the other problem here, Ezekie Elliott.
I agree with you. Why I'm still drafting imaged. I
drafted him fifth overall. I on the problem with that.
How about Antonio Brown? I mean, are you drafted Antonio Brown?
He's got the helmet thing now, which is a complete joke,
the feet thing where apparently phrases his feet off. This
guy's glory around here. I'm assuming you've dropped him somewhat.
How far have you dropped him? And would you personally
(25:30):
draft him? I dropped him a little bit, like I
moved him back on um stefarm bigs and branded coast,
but I didn't I already had him kind of blow. However,
I found that he was doing way too low. I
hired it up from the draft Beastball Championship draft, like
wow that all those threads were coming out on Twitter,
(25:51):
and I took him I think three separate times in
the fourth round, which just felt like a very good
value to me. Okay, the last guy in this article
you wrote again. You can find Davis on Twitter at
Davis Maddock and you can find all his work on
roto experts dot com. He's a good follow on Twitter
and certainly provides a lot of great information for your
(26:14):
fantasy football league. So the third guy is Leonard four Nett,
and I can understand personally while you'd be hesitant in
drafting him, but given the fact that they're going to
run the ball so much, if you were to stay healthy,
that's where his upside lies. Right. This may not be
an efficient offense, but there's only a really three draftable
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play draftable pieces on this whole Jaguars team. It's the
Jaguars defense for Net and then D D. Westbrook. Yeah
that is that is really it. And I mean for
Net probably more than any other player in fantasy football.
This yere can really put me in a coffin because
that I just had that drafted him at all. And
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if you're looking at importants, I mean, we're two years
and made from Jacksonville, leading the NFL and rushing attempts.
Baltimore probably will this here. But if that defense plays.
You know, they like if they end up having the
best defense in the NFL, they'll just give torn at
the ball five times a game. And if they're using
in the passing game, like, there's definitely some ways where
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four net has like you know, he finishes as the
third back running back in fantasy. I'm just not sitting
sm alright, Uh, sticking with the running backs. Uh, David
Montgomery Devin Singletary, two rookie running backs. Uh, you can
get that. David Montgomery Bears running back much earlier than
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Devin Singletary. Talk to me about what you think of
about their outlook. I mean, you know, David Montgomery looked
good in his first preseason game. He's got the Tariko
and there Mike Davis, uh Singletary has got you know,
the old man, Frank Gore and t J. Yelden. I mean,
who do you think makes the biggest uh Fantasy impact
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this season? Who do you want to own? Of those two?
Montgomery is a pretty tough sell for me. So the
team spends six million dollars from free agency on my Davis.
They have Parry Cullen, who would you know, by far
the most efficient player on offense last season. Uh, they
only finished sixteenth in the NFL and and yards per
play nineteens in the NFL and points scored. People think
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their offense is a lot better because, h you know,
they ran a lot of cool plays. Taylor Gabriel has
Google games with the Bears offense is actually not that good.
H Like, I'm a converse doesn't single theory. Not not
a great prospect. But he's like free right. You can
get him in the third teams fourteen round, which just
doesn't matter. And he's got a He's got a very
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similar chance of starting in the basketball offense that Montgomery
does in the Bears offense. I think I think the
teams view them almost the exact same way. At the
for whatever reason, the market views them as markedly different players.
David's took a little draft strategy here. Are you one
of those guys? Are you come table taking Travis Kelsey
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round one or Kiddle and Arts the end of round two,
top of round three? Do you like how your team
looks when you do that? Personally? I don't. But how
do you feel about taking Arts Kiddle in the top
three rounds? I feel pretty good about taking Kelsey in
the first round, our projections on roato experts dot com
having like forty two fifty points better than Kittle Inerts
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like like basically in an entire tier of his own.
And you know, I'm pretty big on zero running back
drafting anyways, so starting that out with the best tight
end and fantasy football is like, that's a great way
for your team to project better, even though zero running
back teams never project well. Davis, uh, with all your
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best ball again? You know, I find him on Twitter
at Davis Maddock and all of his work on roado
experts dot com. So of all your best balls that
you've done to this point, I was tracking some of
your progress, reading some of your articles and Twitter. But
now that you've gotten through a whole bunch more, who
are the players that you find yourself owning the most
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couple of guys? Two three guys um Large Jackson a quarterback,
Justice Hill and Tony Collard and Edo Smith at running
back and uh uh Kenny Stills a wide receiver are
probably the guys who I have the most just because
our projection at them is like four to five round
values versus what their DT is. Nice. So Davis, looking
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at the draft board of the draft that you guys
did for F and T s y Uh the other
day and ninth round you've got Kitlin Blage from the Dolphins. Uh.
How do you think that that that backfield shakes up?
I mean this could be a little value pick based
on you know what we're seeing very early with the
Bellage getting a lot of work with the first uh
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first team. So, uh, what do you think about the
workload between Bellage and king A Drake this season? It
should probably be right like right around fifty fifties. Again,
that's how it was in the first preseason game. Drake
came out in the first series, looks pretty good. The
Lodge came out in the second series, looks pretty good,
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and then scored a touchdown. Actually got more work in
the receiving game than I thought he would as well.
I think basically they should have a very similar a DPS.
I think it should kind of be how the Tample
Day guys both going on the tenth round most of
the time. I kind of think that's how the Miami
backfield should be viewed. Davis. Uh, how do you feel
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about they taking a quarterback? The tight ends? You're okay with?
When do you take it to a quarter Would you
take Pat Mahomes in round two? Would you want to wait?
You look up a value later on? There's so many
quarterbacks And does that strategy change Jenny in a super
flex league? Uh? And it she looks like league. Yeah,
you could probably like you could take one like the
fourth or fifth round. That's what I did in the
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Scott Fish Full League. But no in general were taking
homes in the second and third in it. I mean
maybe if I have like a later pick in the
fourth round and Chris Godwin and Joss Jacobs and Brandon
Coast are all gone, I would think about it. Or
sometimes in the draft des while Chad been if I
drafts Coast in the first round, maybe I would take
my homes in the third, just to set up the
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back whether gen are I'm not a huge fan of it.
Good stuff. Thanks for john us this morning, Davison, and
I'll tell everybody out there you gotta follow him on
Twitter at Davis Maddock. Really good articles. He is the
number one Justice Hill truther. I would say, Davis, I'm
going to give you that Moniker. You've probably talked about
more than anybody else that I've seen, so you're in
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on the Ravens offense, probably because you're gonna be running
the ball so much, very very in the definitely the
number one, right. I hope that's sick. Yeah, So all right, thanks,
I appreciate you. Jonas this morning, we'll talk to against. Okay,
so all right, good stuff. So guys, Justice Hill, I'll
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let you comment both. Georgie First, Davis really just thinks
that Justice Hill, who has had a very productive collegiate career,
is going to be the guy that sort of taking
over the reins for mark Ingram at some point or
at least given his a DP, will have a pretty
big impact in this Ravens rushing offense. Well, I think
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before we get too much on a Raven's office, you
got to think how much is Lamar Jackson going to run?
How much are they going to run? Period? You know
last year there, that's all they did, right, Jackson coun't
really throw the ball. I assume he's made some modifications there.
He's got at least better at throwing the ball down
the field, right, So that's gonna take away some running obsortunities.
We've heard different reports from from what Baltimore first was
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the ten twelve times again Lamar Jackson, Well, damn, that's
a lot that we put in Jackson a coll from
by week ten if they do that, but that's still
they didn't run him. That's what's what he's good at here.
Well is he is? He still is running thrusting touchdowns.
You know there's one yard once. It's gonna be Lamar
ch actually, not Ingram because we think that's Ingles the
bigger back. That's where he would go. I like Justice Hill.
I like him a lot. I think it's for me
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though he's more of a reserve guy. Let's see what
happens here. I think he's one of the handcuff, so
I would draft them more than a handcuff over Ingram.
But I'm gonna slow my role as far as think
he's gonna be the next breakout guy here. Just too
much going on there in the backfields Edwards as well,
a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Yeah yeah, Justice
Hill went in first, uh, first pick of the tenth
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round the other day in this draft. I don't know
why the heck I wasn't in this draft, but whatever,
I'm sure you guys are scared that I'm gonna win
the whole thing. But nonetheless, uh, he was the first
pick of the tenth round. The other day, Justice Hill
went to Davis Mattock, who we just had on the phone. Well,
if I tell you, this draft was a little head passive.
We only I only found out a day before and
Jim and Jim day night, like what the hell it was?
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There was a money lead. Weren't even told it like
drafting tomorrow, money league, good good luck. It's like, okay,
you know, I think we had a scramble to make
sure we were free for It was a long draft, man.
I think it's like, you know, for for rap that
should be an hour and head this thing last almost
three hours. Was it was long? So Mike I would
take you to the place we'll hate you. Mike. I
guess I'm glad I wasn't in it. So Galina will
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let you comment Justice Hill and a couple of other
things from this draft. After the break, it's Mike, Joe
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that is the best DFS information out there. But okay,
so I was gonna talk about the Chiefs here, but
given the fact that you guys are George didn't a
draft and he sent over this draft board, I might
as well to take a look at some of this here.
Uh you know, our producer Yang who produces shows during
the week, particularly the afternoon and evening shows, he did
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have a rough draft. He drafted the Bears defense in
the eleventh round, and he drafted Levi On Bell Older, g. Kelliott,
and David Johnson and uh, who else you got. He's
got Damian Williams here in the third round. It's not
Terry Tyler, Boyd, Cooper Cup Amari Cooper. That is not
a powerful wide receiving group. Shot Penny, there's something there. Uh,
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and that's a lot of Seattle. I don't know. I
wouldn't want to be that in on Seattle with DK
metcalf Amrashod Penny. Anyway, Uh, George, how did this draft
for you? How do you feel that this draft turned out? You,
Kim and you came in at the five slot and
you got Zeke Elliott, So that was a surprise. But
now you Mike Kevans, carry on Johnson, Josh Jacobs. We
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just got off the phone with Davis Maddock who talked
about Josh Jacobs. Uh, give me your thoughts on him? Uh?
This year? Yeah, I mean the draft was an interesting
um when they did, They're they're actually picking the draft
that order out live through one of the helmets there
in studio, and I'm like, uh, just I don't I
don't want the fifth pick, you know, I didn't want them.
I was pretty sure what what what happened was going
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to happen. One of the top four would not take
Elliott because the whole doubt they'll be worried about it.
He knew Barkley was going once CMC Camaro would probably go.
So Yang was the wild card there. You know, he's
the producer, not considering an expert in analyst. So I
was wondering what he would do, and he let him go.
And yeah, this is a money league. This is not
a fun league, he says from cash here. So for me,
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I'm sticking to my words here on all those shows.
I believe Elliott signs by week one and plays week one.
But as the Giants, I don't think Jones will let
us go manly because it's his ego. Though he knows
Dallas as a shot this year and he's not gonna
let uh. He's not gonna let you know, hold out
by Elliott ruin his team's chances, and it would ruin
his team's chances. He could say whatever he wants on
the only shuh, you know, appearances Elliott not showing up
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person the team. So I took with Elliott, Evans was
an easy choice. Carry On Johnson Josh Jacobs was a
b P A pick. As I said it while we
were on air here, I did not plan on taking
another running back. Three running backs in the top four
rounds to me was unusual. I didn't want to take
a wide receiver here, but I didn't think I could
pass up on him. He was the last running back
in that tier rask guy that I I wanted. You know,
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there's two flexes in this league. We always start two
wide receivers. That's key to remember here. We only start
to not three. We have two flexes, so I can
start all these running backs each and every week, as
far as Zeke Johnson and Jacobs, and that's where I
took him. And that's purely why I hope Antonio Brown's
in camp. Obviously, that will help immensely if he's there.
It takes away uh defensive pressure on the on the
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running game. And I think Brown will show by the
way he's there's no way he's not gonna play over
a helmet issue and give up fifty million dollars. That's
not happening. But there you know what's gonna There is
that worry. But for me, j I said, j Jacobs
was all about the b P A man. It's just
too good, too good a player to pass up at
that point. Get that Kiddle in the fifth round too,
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It's pretty That's that's a that really helps a lot
um with any questions you might have about somebody like Jacobs.
You locked up one of the top three tight ends. Um,
I'm not surprised considering Kelsey went in the second round,
that both Kittle and Earth's waited all the way to
the fifth round to get Risen. Right, that seems a
little uh, it seems a little those ADPs would be tighter. Yeah, yeah,
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I agree, but you know you've got most of the
experts here so they know they could wait a little bit.
But write those top three do seem to go, you know,
failure you in the rounds. And I wanted to ask
George real quick, what tipped the scales for you in
terms of taking Kiddle over Earth's. Was it the god
or to this, you know, being in the background. Uh,
you know when I took the when I had when
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I took Josh Jacobs, I actually was thinking of taking
Kidle of Arts in the fourth round. But I'm like,
you know what, after Jacobs, there's only eight more picks.
I had, Kiddle and Arts were both there, one might
fall to me. I honestly was hoping somebody would take one.
I would just take the other and make my decision
for me. What I guess, I guess I guess turned
thee a quipment for me was purely the fact that, yeah,
Carson Wentz has a lot of other weapons to throw
the ball there too, you know, Jeffreys there, you know
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and listen. I mean I was looking for an excuse
not to take one guy with the other, and there's
really not in my mind, is not much there other
than Kiddle, where as Wentz really has plenty of other
options to throw too if you don't want to throw
them all perfect left them right. But that being said,
anybody who tells me, oh, I have Art's ranked higher
than Kittle, I'm not arguing with you. That's fine. I'm
more than okay with that. I would have taken arts
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to Uh. I had to take one. One had to
go the three. One had to take it to. If
I said, if if Yang Chris venture my cardno Junior
or Dane would have taken U tight in there, I
sort have taken another. And I've been very happy at
not having to make a decision, Joe, which one would
you take first? Kidl or Earth's you know, looking at
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it now, I might take Kittle because of of what
George had said in terms of uh, you know, Wentz
having a lot of different options there, and and we
just talked about the forty nine is offense where you know, uh,
there's really no uh wide receiver one per se, right,
I mean Kiddle is gonna be You even said it
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earlier that Kiddle is gonna be the the target hound there.
So looking at it now and looking at the pick,
it looks good to me. I think I think I
would do the same. I'm just just a huge fan
of Earth's trying not to let that stuff influence me,
but I think I would take Earth's first. And everything
you guys said is logical. There really is. This is
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why we didn't invite you on the show, Mike. There
are there are obviously other options in Philly where there
aren't as many established options that we are aware of
in San France. So, um, I don't know. I still
thinks I got I got earts in scott fish bowl,
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but the others had already been taken, so that would
really I think, like Kurt said, there's really no rong
answer here. Yeah, And Fantasy Taz yesterday turned me on
with that that he said that uh Kittle's numbers, you know,
we're slightly better when Nick Mullens was quarterbacking as opposed
to when Garoppolo was quarterback, and we had only had
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a very small sample size of both quarterbacks, and take
it for what for what it's worth, But that's fantasy, Taz. Yeah,
I think that's it's probably more related to sample size
than anything else. Obviously you have in here, or at
least you know, like George, Like George said earlier, there's
a lot being given to Jimmy Garoppolo monetarily and respect
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wise that hasn't necessarily been earned. I think people do
see the talent, and you could probably say the same
thing for any quarterback that gets drafted in the first round, right,
they get a whole bunch of money before they get
a chance to prove it. Guys like Baker go out
and do it. Jimmy g has to go out and
do it for the Niners, obviously. I just have found
it interesting that that same hype that was there a
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year ago just doesn't exist for what is a lot
of the same pieces. You know, Jimmy coming off that injury,
but quarterback, you know, given eleven months to hell, I
think he'll be all right. So okay, so a couple
other things. Let me see some other things from this draft.
Uh came out, George, you did not draft a quarterbacks.
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Cheez you see that fun every right, It's like George
been saying, all Sason the one the eleventh round, Matt Ryan,
there was a quarterback run there obviously went Luck Ryan
and Breuees Wilson and then uh yeah, all in that round.
But if you're in a single QB draft with a
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bunch of experts, it's just a waiting game. Most of
the guys waited until double digit rounds to pick up
a QB. Only four qbs went before the ninth pick
of the tenth round. Baker and Rogers went back to back,
and Mahomes and Watson had gone before that. Where did
Luck go? Here? Luck right before Matt Ryan. So um,
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everybody just waited all day and help Georgie Cuckager Cousins
as your backup in the fift round. You're just souping
up backup QB before the draft ends. So I think
George is onto something. Joe. He has told me in
the past that at this at this stage, given the
way that people that are a depth of fantasy football raft,
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you should have just all go to super flex now
because there's almost no strategy and drafting a QB anymore. Yeah, absolutely,
uh and yeah, super flex and the two quarterback leads
keeps you more honest, right, I mean, you know, uh,
those you know top four or five picks kind of
written in stone, you know, the Barkleys and McCaffrey's as
a Kimara, the Elliotts, and you know you want to
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throw Bell in there as well. But yeah, I mean, personally,
I think it's the only way to go. And I
love what Scottie Fishball has done that brought it to
the forefront. The the flex, the super flex. Yeah, George,
you're you're basically only trying to play in super flex
leagues unless you get wrangled into a a the network
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league like this. You're really looking for super flex leagues
at this point, correct. Yeah, It's been my favorite type
of league for a long time. My home league has
been super flex forever. You know, I did years, even
there was when Quarterbucks wasn't as the and you just
said at quarter it's extremely deep. I got Kirk Cousins
for free in the fifteenth round. It's like a sixteen
round draft, and I think was taking as a backup
because quarterbacks go deep. I mean it's it's it's a
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great time. The NFL quarterbacks all the rules of meant
far hmat also and it's it's a good time. Yeah.
And even you said Matt took Matt Ryan around eleven.
I the only thing. I took Matt Ryan around eleven,
by the way, because I was running out of players
that I liked on my board at any of the position.
I hated everybody like, fine, I'll take the quarterbacks. I
liked the quarterbacks. Uh. And I was ready with someone
to take Luck. I I thought about Luck round beforehand,
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but um, I am worried someone about that cat, This
never ending calf injury. This is taking forever. It's a joke.
He's has his O t A. So he's starting to
scare me a little bit. He's starting to remind me
of someone who just doesn't heal very well. He just
doesn't heal very well. So I wasn't taking Luck. And
when Ryan was as soon as Luck was taken, it
was great. Then Yank took a Chicago bearret defense, and
then it was an easy choice for me to think
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Matt Ryan, I had in the top five this season,
think he's gonna have a great year, and uh easy
choice I did. I can tell you honestly. In round
six when I took Allen Robinson, I gave a lot
of thought to take it to Shawn Watson because he
had fawn. There was value there, even though I'd like
to wait on quarterback. I thought there was value in
de Shawan Watson because he did full But in the
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end I needed a receiving there, and as you see,
I went on a little white receiver run there to
make up to Josh Jacobs. I couldn't get a solid
number two there. I went with a whole bunch of quantity,
maybe of a quality, and w I wasn't Shepherd Sanders
and the Shawan Jackson. But if you're playing a leave
with people who know what they're doing, I think you're
gonna see this in a lot of leagues, but the
one quarterback league, you can wait forever on a quarterback day.
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Martinez spitting speeds on Twitter and we've all had done
shows with him. He waited till the fourteenth round and
he just went on the turn. He just picked back
to back QB's. He went with Jamis Winston and Ben Roethlisberger,
and he didn't pick one until the last pick of
the fourteenth round, and those are the guys that he got.
I guarantee one of those guys, I'd I'd nearly guarantee
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that one of those guys cracked the top two out
of Fantasy this year. They both cute, but one of them.
Absolutely yeah, I agree as yeah, I wouldn't think you
neither one of those over Winston over Cousins, by the way,
I wanted them both. Unfortunately, Uh, they both went before
I could go, and I took Cousins. The funny thing
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about this draft, I didn't tell these guys during any
uh the draft, but the last I think the last
four or five picks my Maxie, my daughter made. I said,
this draft took forever. It's just the over by as
we did it during Fantasy Frenzy and uh and best
friends forever, something over seen one and three, I mean,
and there were guys taking forever. You're on air, you're
not paying attention. I get it. But I had to
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pick up my nis at the train station three fifteen.
I had to leave, and I told my daughter was
all mixed works twelve. She wanted to come. She has
nothing about fantasy football, you know, and uh, I just toold.
I gave you the list. I'm like she knew. She
knows at a work computer, like listen, just hit draft.
I don't care he takes list last four picks. So
I'm glad she took Cousins and so not someone who
was much worse. Yeah, I told her, just don't you know,
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don't take cowboys because Daddy likes cowboys. All right, just
take guys at the top of the list. It's the
list four picks. You know, I'll live with it. After that,
says you did, okay, Yeah, I got right. Quill armstet
for four at the ramps. Defense is fine. She knew
she had to take the defense, had told him that,
and I wanted to backup tight end as well. So
I guess you had the list. I left at the
matt right, and that's what I took the quarterback, and
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she took everybody after that. So my question do you
question do you sho would you there's several teams on
here that are only rostering one quarterback. Are you the
type joke Gilina that feels like he needs to get
that backup quarterback like George did with Cousins, or are
you gonna roll with the one QB because if you
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know somebody like Philip Rivers, the teams that only have
one QB have Philip Rivers, Pat Mahomes, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson,
Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield. All of those teams are only
rostering those quarterbacks. So they probably feel if there guy
gets hurt, let's just pick somebody else up on the
waiver wire. But do you feel like you have to
have a back cup like George did, or we roll
with one QB. Yeah. I used to roll with one
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QB and last year I rolled with Garoppolo and he
got hurt obviously for the season, So I think part
of it is just uh recency bias on my part.
So this season, I'm gonna make sure that I get
a backup quarterback because in this league where Garoppolo went down, uh,
it was a non expert league and everybody went nuts
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drafting you know, quarterbacks, and it really wasn't much on
the waiver wire. So I think it kind of depends
on your specific draft and maybe even recently bias on
your part, But based on what happened to me last year,
I like to get that second quarterback. Uh on my roster, George,
based on the fact that you just drafted the second
QB in this draft. Are you married to that? Or
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would you roll with one QB in a in a
given league. So it's really unlucky. This was the unlucky
ast of me not being at the draft hurt because
I said, when I left this h I said, I
looked at the draft. I told my daughter, you know,
I told the positions to look. I want to the
backup quarterback, backup tight end. Uh, they're running back wide receiver,
and then she could pick which every one you wanted
running back up wide receiver. If I had been here
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and seeing how this draft went when I took Kirk Cousins,
I think they were only about it was like thirteen
quarterbacks taken. I would not have taken Cousins because they
would have been plenty left on the wave of wire.
This is one of those things, right, no one was
taking it back up or quarterback. I guessed that people
would take back up quarterbacks this league because I love
the things I'm playing in. People are taking two quarterbacks,
and I didn't want to be left without, you know,
people left to left that a decent backup when the
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music stopped. So, like I said, uh, if I would
have been there live seeing the draft was playing out,
I would not have taken Kirk Cousins. I assumed, and
you know when you assume, you make an ass out
of you and made I made a mistake there. That's it.
I would remember. If I hate all the players that
are left, maybe I'll take a second QB really late,
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like George did rolling one. My starter gets hurt as
I got to go to the ways others tode. We're
gonna talk athec West in the second hour, starting off
with the Chiefs. After the break. That's Mike, George and
Joe will be right back. Yeah,
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