Wrestlenomics

Wrestlenomics

Wrestlenomics covers the business of pro wrestling. Pollock & Thurston is a weekly podcast hosted by John Pollock of POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics’ Brandon Thurston. They are often joined by a relevant guest. Wrestlenomics Radio is also available weekly for subscribers at patreon.com/wrestlenomics, and is hosted by Brandon Thurston. The video version incorporates charts and visual elements.

Episodes

July 2, 2025 71 mins

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the past week involving CM Punk’s trip to Saudi Arabia, apology for past comments, and the backlash.

We go into the comments made in the past, how Punk addressed them at the kickoff event, the reaction online, and Thurston’s opinion piece from earlier this week.

Plus, Pollock & Thurston have exclusive details on the WWE Unreal series coming to Netflix, WWE & Vince McMahon file motions...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WWE’s return to Saudi Arabia amid political unrest in the Middle East, and speak with journalist Karim Zidan.

Pollock & Thurston review the latest requests from Janel Grant for the discovery phase of her case. Stephanie McMahon sits down with WWE President Nick Khan.

Additionally, Tony Khan discusses AEW’s cable audie...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat about the political identity of WWE and the promotion of CM Punk’s match in Saudi Arabia at Night of Champions.

Plus, WWE & McMahons refile motions in the ring boy lawsuit, Janel Grant requests travel logs for Colker & McMahon, BKFC president details a past meeting with Vince McMahon, a lawsuit is filed against Jon Moxley & AEW, and Zuffa Boxing is official.

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat about R-Truth returning to WWE, the WBD split, WrestleMania 42 in Las Vegas, and Canelo vs. Crawford.

First, we examine the six days between Ron Killings stating that his WWE contract wasn’t being renewed, the ensuing fan outrage, his return at Money in the Bank, and Paul Levesque’s non-answer at the post-show press conference.

Plus, WBD ...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover this week’s major stories, including more information on Vince McMahon’s new company, 14TH & I.

Then, they chat about SmackDown staying in its three-hour format and how important the program is for the USA Network, the recent contract expirations, and what leverage points the talent possess.

Plus, two more antitrust lawsuits were f...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the news that WrestleMania 42 is leaving New Orleans and is expected to land in Las Vegas.

They chat about Thurston’s exclusive report, WWE’s handling of the announcement, how Las Vegas is expected to land ‘Mania for the second year in a row, and the ramifications of such a significant change.

Major news broke on Wednesday that Janel Grant is dropping John Laurinaitis as a defendant in her civi...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston dissect the history of AEW as it heads into Double or Nothing, six years after the promotion’s first event.

John and Brandon discuss the company's highs and lows since its launch, the important moments in its history, the most impactful moves, and how it affected the professional wrestling industry.

Plus: WWE presents SNME & Battlegrou...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the latest developments in the wrestling industry, including TKO COO Mark Shapiro’s appearance at the JP Morgan conference following the company’s Q1 earnings report, highlighting cost-cutting and WWE’s live events strategy.

Plus, the influence of Sabu, WWE confirms Night of Champions in Saudi Arabia on June 28, AEW moves 12,000 tickets for Forbidden Door in London, comments from CW’s presid...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover an extensive Wrestlenomics study, movement in the Janel Grant case & a TKO Q1 earnings preview.

Brandon Thurston has conducted a big study into Reddit, focusing on fan opinions toward WWE over AEW over the past six years and when shifts occurred.

Judge Sarah Russell has made a notable ruling in the Janel Grant case, while Dr. Carlon...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the amended complaint and new allegations in the ongoing ring boy lawsuit.

This past week, a 111-page amended complaint was filed, including three additional “John Does” added to the suit. We discuss the new allegations being levied, provide further information, discuss the plaintiffs’ argument in favor of the case moving forward in Maryland, and...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go through the success of WrestleMania 41 as WWE promotes the biggest weekend in its history.

They discuss WWE’s released business metrics, Netflix stats, the reception for the two-night event, Paul Levesque’s speech at the Hall of Fame, and many other topics from Las Vegas.

The major news on Saturday included WWE announcing its acquisition of Lucha Libre AAA, and we are joined by The Cubs Fan from ...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WrestleMania Week and more developments from WWE and AEW.

Pollock and Thurston go through expected attendance and revenue, how Las Vegas landed the event, and a historical look at WWE’s business across closed circuit, PPV, WWE Network, and Peacock eras. 

Plus: Nick Khan on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Paul Levesque on how his booking phil...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the latest filings in the ring boy lawsuit, and welcome Brandon Ross and Richard Deitsch.

Richard Deitsch from The Athletic joins the show to speak about WWE’s transition to Netflix, the impact of the first WrestleMania on the platform, and the brand's popularity while transferring its leadership away from Vince McMahon.

Brandon Ross of LightShed Partners discusses the economic impact on ...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston go through the results of an AEW fan survey conducted by Jesse Collings and the state of its fanbase.

Collings joins us to break down the results, how fan sentiment has changed over the past year, positive and negative responses, who is connecting, whether the company is growing its audience, and other insights.

Plus: WWE launches on Netflix in India, Nick Khan speaks about a potential PLE in the cou...

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are joined by Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful to discuss the TNA cuts and the lead-up to this year’s WrestleMania.

They chat about the reaction internally to the TNA cuts including Gail Kim being let go and the state of TNA in the marketplace.

Plus, the promotion of WrestleMania 41 as WWE prepares for its major week in Las Vegas.

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss estimates of WWE’s viewership on Netflix and compare it to cable.

Estimates on how WWE’s U.S. viewership on Netflix compares to its performance on cable, recent comments by analysts on WWE’s performance on the streamer, and more.

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston are chatting about TKO’s official entry into boxing with last week’s announcements and what it means for the industry.

John Nash from Hey Not The Face is our guest to discuss the impact TKO can have on the boxing industry, Dana White’s comments last week, the fate of the Ali Act, and the financial power from Saudi Arabia.

Plus: A...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss issues among WWE staff with employee incentive programs cut.

Pollock and Thurston discuss new details of a consolidated shareholder lawsuit against WWE. The lawsuit alleges that the company manipulated its sales process and that the investigation into Vince McMahon was a “sham.”

SLAM Wrestling editor Greg Oliver joins th...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston recap Linda McMahon’s confirmation hearing to oversee the Department of Education.

Reporter Aaron Rupar of Public Notice speaks with John and Brandon about last Thursday’s hearing, his outlet's coverage of the ring boy lawsuit, and how that subject was addressed at the hearing.

Plus: How is Netflix assessing WWE's viewership data? What is the status of Vince McMahon’s investigation? AEW Doubl...

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John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the court ruling related to the Vince McMahon case and documents being withheld.

They break down the 44-page opinion that came down this week and explain what it is about, the status of the SEC investigation, and the statement provided by one of McMahon’s lawyers to POST Wrestling.

Plus: Linda McMahon’s confirmation hearing begins on Thursday, the latest involving Dr. Carlon Colker, Vince McM...

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