Voorhees' Podcast For Today

Today, we take on a SCORTCHING HOT grammar issue, stolen valor, the uselessness of this special legislative session, and more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott vordiez three days this week with Lucy Chapman, three
different hairstyles. We had the slee stack on Monday. Yesterday
was just the It was the rock and roll hairstyle
I think probably known as whereas on Friends you would
see the Rachel that would be the Lucy we saw
yesterday and today it is curly. I can't wait until

(00:22):
tomorrow when you are bald. It's great to have you here. Now.
I have a number of things to discuss here, and
I admit the first one probably doesn't rise to the
level to attain the level of hype that I gave
it leading up to this conversation.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
This is you don't do that well.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, I said it correctly. There's a lot to discuss
and debate regarding the presidential ambitions of our Vice President
Kambala Harris. But there's one issue that's getting a lot
of heat online and this is an easy one and
I'm happy to settle it now. I will also admit
this might be one of those things I don't want
to disappoint you during the conversation. I'll disappoint you ahead

(01:06):
of time. This is probably along the lines of building
a mountain out of a molehill, which is one of
my favorite things to do. But we'll pivot and we'll
take on a couple more important things as well. The
story here from the Associated Press, and it starts off saying,
it doesn't take much to get Grammar nerds fired up.

(01:30):
And this guy is right there with me. His name
is Ron wallashan creative director and digital marketer in California
who's been fighting this battle valiantly online. And whereas I
say it's time to build a mountain out of a
mole hill, he says, the lower the stakes, the bigger
the fight. I'm all about it. Let's go what's the issue? Well,

(01:57):
as soon as Kamala Harris really what did it? Was
her running mate decision last week Governor Tim Walls, which
actually created a double issue. The issue is the possessive
proper noun. Kamala Harris's running mate or Tim Walls's selection

(02:22):
to it has to do with the possessive proper noun.
This is probably a conversation that is easier to follow
on print that it is in radio. But undaunted, let's
soldier forward. It's whether or not to use an apostrophe
after the name Harris in talking about Harris's running mate.

(02:46):
Whether you just use an apostrophe h A r Ris
apostrophe running mate, or whether you do something that this
article says something in it that makes me physically ill.
It says, well, everyone just needs to make a choice
that works best for them, and that's why some people

(03:06):
will do the possessive. Like if we're talking about Lucy's
running mate, that's Lucy postrophe s. If we're talking about
Vorhees's running mate, you wouldn't use the apostrophe S. There's
already an S there. You don't do an apostrophe s.
This is AP style. People didn't anyone take any English classes?

(03:32):
Didn't anyone write for their school newspaper. Wasn't everyone the
news editor two years running, by the way, including as
a freshman in college at the University of Nebraska Carney
for the Antelope, the weekly student newspaper. Didn't everyone do this?
I still have my AP style book, and I refuse
to believe it potentially has been updated in the last

(03:53):
twenty five years. Whatever it was back in nineteen ninety whatever,
this is what it should be now. But AP style says,
if there's already an S, like Jesus' life. It's not
j E s U S postrophe S just an apostrophe,
like we have a shortage of s's and we don't

(04:15):
need to add another one.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, you can't have three s's.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
And an example of like Odysseus, this is, this is.
That's why I sometimes joke and say, you know, the
what do I voorhees or something like that, So some
people will put the apostrophe S on there. And this
story from the Associated Press no Less then quotes this

(04:47):
guy named Benjamin Dreyer. He's the retired copy chief at
Random House and he's even authored a book which I'm
guessing is absolutely a page turner to the end degree.
It's called Dryer's English, An Utterly Correct Guide to Clarity
and Style. And he says, while there's widespread agreement that

(05:14):
because they also say, what about walls, what about tim walls? Walls?
Is you know, since it sounds like an S, do
you do just to apostrophe or is it apostrophe S?
It's like, no, it's this Z. It's not an S.
It's apostrophe s w a l Z postrophe S. So
he says that we got widespread agreement that Wallsz's postrophe S.

(05:36):
It's correct. Confusion persists about Harris's apostrophe or Harris's with
apostrophe S, and he says, add the apostrophe S quote
to set the apostrophe S is just simpler, and then

(05:58):
you can take your valuable brain cells and apply them
to more important things. On there's another guy that says, yeah,
the rule is simple. If you say the S put
the S. Harrises, that's an extra and S sound doesn't
need to be just implied at it. And the vice

(06:22):
president for News Standards and Inclusion for the Associated Press themselves,
they of the AP style book, her name's Amanda Barrett
ab at AP says, this is a long standing policy
for the AP. It has served us well and we've
not seen any real need to change. We do know

(06:43):
that the conversation is out there and people need or
people make different choices when it comes to grammar, and
that's all fine. Everybody makes a choice that works best
for them. That's where we run into absolute anarchy and chaos. No,
everyone can't just make a choice that works best for them. Now,

(07:06):
I'm not a grammar cop or grammar nazi. If you
prefer that horrible phrase. I'm not someone like Gary Sadlemeyer
who insists on saying something differently from every other person
on earth because he says it's right, you know, and
it very well might be. But I also admit standards change,

(07:28):
usage changes. You know, you're going to get a few
funnier looks now than a hundred years ago. If you say, yes,
we're going to have the fellows over for a party
on Friday night, it's going to be gay. One hundred
years ago, people are like that sounds like a great party.
Everyone's gonna be there. It's gonna be marry and gay. Now,

(07:50):
if you say I'm having the fellows over for a
a little bit of a shin dig on Friday, it's
going to be a gay affair, you're going to you
have a different annotation. Usage changes. I think I don't know.
One hundred years ago, maybe that's exactly what they meant.
I don't know. I wasn't here for that party one

(08:11):
hundred years ago. So you can't just say, well, you know,
everyone makes a choice that works best for them. That's
where we devolve into chaos. The style is, if you're
talking about Harris's campaign, ha r RS apostrophe. When we

(08:37):
start saying like, oh, everyone makes a choice that works
best for them and you're not allowed to point out
that's actually incorrect, then you know what we have. We
have a whole generation of people on social media around
Christmas time that talk about Santa Claus spelled like a
clause in a contract because they grew up watching a
really good Tim Allen movie the same clause they and

(09:02):
people think, oh, it's about the Santa Claus. The jolly
old Elf comes on Christmas Time, delivering joy and presence.
That's without an e at the end. The pun in
the title is is how Tim Allen gets to be
Santa Claus. There's a contract and it contains a clause.

(09:24):
He falls victim to the clause and becomes Santa Claus.
It's a hilarious grammar pun, but I don't think people
get it, and they keep spelling it with an e
at the end, and no one corrects them on it
because I think that they also think like, oh, maybe
I've been spelling it wrong. No, and this is where
we have chaos. It doesn't help that everyone's using their

(09:50):
own brand of English in text messaging, and so your
and just the different forms of your or two to
two and two or whatever. You know, people, I guess
have just given up on trying to get any of
that stuff correctly. And now we've got an additional form
of your you are because we just need to shorten

(10:10):
that in terms of text messaging. You know, but I'm
the dork if I put punctuation in a text message,
I'm the dinosaur. I'm the nerd. Well, I'm here on
behalf of fellow nerds. There are some things that just
need to be correct, and you know what, I'm almost

(10:32):
ready to go out there and say, and we should
also put two spaces after a period, but I don't
know about that one.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are you suggesting that what I was taught when I
went to school is wrong? Because I was taught that
if there is one s and you're trying to make
it possessive, it's an imposter.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
For yes, you were taught wrong. Your teacher was an ignoramus.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
And if there were two s's, you put an apostrophe
by itself because you can't have three s's.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
That makes that almost makes sense.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
But no, why so I'm wrong?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah I was, I was yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Schooled you were by my teachers.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I can't blame you for being taught wrong. Your teacher
should have been drummed out of the profession immediately. And
you know, there's something we used to do with people
like teachers like that, but we would hold them underwater
and if they drowned, it was determined that they were
a witch. They would weigh her and a chicken, and
if she weighed this approximately the same as a chicken,

(11:46):
she was a witch. And that's how we used to
do things. And you know what, there was order. Stuff
got done properly back in those days. So you're fine
as long as you're learning the correct way. Now. Your teacher, though,
is a witch, and there's standards and punishments for such things.

(12:11):
So this is one of the battles going on online
related to the Harris campaign. It's a lot easier to
get into this than actually talk about that which was
brought up on a social media post from the Trump campaign,
which was immediately dismissed as racist, probably because it came

(12:32):
from Trump towards Harris, but the content of it was
actually deemed racist. Because it's a lot easier to just
call it that and try and move on rather than
talk about the issue. We'll talk about this issue, which
maybe a bit more important than the grammar issue we
started off with, and that's coming up next. You know,

(12:54):
if I would have started off with a different topic,
I wouldn't have received nearly as many emails as we
have during this one. A moment ago here on news
radio eleven t kfab related to this online raging debate
about Harris's campaign. Is it Harris's apostrophe or Harris's apostrophe?

(13:14):
S it already ends in an s AP style, says
just an apostrophe. Here are some of the emails Bill.
People these days ain't got no good English. Thank you, Bill,
appreciate that. Richard says, common sense rules here. If you

(13:35):
pronounce the extra s, then you put the S. The
S doesn't just disappear if it's said it's written. Just
because some egghead says this is a rule doesn't trump
common sense. That, Richard, that's a passionate argument for your side,
But you are wrong. We say, there's all kinds of
things in English that you might say the sound, but

(13:59):
you'll look at the letters and go, well, that doesn't
seem like it makes any sense. That's just commonly a
applied practice. If you want to go back in time
and fix it. Then that's on you. I mean, I'm
and I'm with you on some things. I mean, I'll
look at the community of Norfolk, Nebraska, and I'll argue

(14:22):
all day with you people who say it's Norfolk it
was supposed to be fo r k, but someone spelled
it wrong. Then go in there and fix it. My gosh,
lazy people. Well, we're not gonna do anything about it.
We're just gonna pronounce it wrong. Morons, And I love you.

(14:43):
I love Norfolk, good community, nice people. Sorry, did I
just call a wide swath of our potential listening audience morons?
Not anymore they all turn you off. Hey Columbus, how
you doing? And really the rest of see Madison County
around Norfolk, We're glad to have you here. How's everyone
in pierced today? It's pronounced peace for crying out loud?

(15:06):
All right. Back to the emails, Tammy says, thank you
for getting that right. Also, just to have to say
that people cannot say with regard to everyone says in
regards to it drives me crazy. I probably it is

(15:31):
an extemporaneous radio show, and I'm gonna say some things
wrong once in a while, I've probably said that. I
think I'd probably mostly say regarding let's just clean it
up a little bit. Stephanie says, as a proud wordsmith,
you are correct, but AP policy also refuses to identify

(15:54):
HAMAS as a terrorist organization, so they've lost all credibility. Technically,
the Associated Press is correct. You can't as a news
agency label someone a terrorist organization. You can cite according
to the Biden administration, HAMAS is labeled a terrorist organization,

(16:19):
or HAMAS labeled as a terrorist organization by every presidency
for the last ten different administrations. You can say that.
You just can't add that's an opinion. Now the media
does that all the time, and we're happy to call
that out a couple more. Karen just says right there
with you, Scott, thank you. Johnny says, yes, this subject

(16:43):
is very important. Do people say important? Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
People have a lot of problems with the letter T
in words.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And as far as your teacher Lucy telling you that
if the name ends in double s apostrophy only like
you're talking about, does ursula andres is that two s's
at the end of Andrews. I think it is. That's
the first name that comes to mind with a doubles
at the end, So Ursula Andres' movie roles, you would

(17:18):
not do an apostrophe s because there's already two s's,
and you can't have three. Charles says Lucy's teacher was wrong, wrong, wrong, also,
and I can't believe I'm going to read this. Also,
if you want to talk about the three s's, I
only did two of them this morning. That's from Charles.

(17:40):
Thank you, Charles. I presume he's unshaven. Scott atkfab dot
com you can email in the Zonker's custom WOS inbox.
I don't know what Scott's talking about. They're good, all right, Trump,
who's back on Twitter? X now? After the Elon Musk conversation,

(18:02):
the Trump campaign posted something the other day that was
immediately described as racist, This story from the Huffington Post, or,
as Rush Limbaugh would call it, the Huffington Puffington Post.
So I'll take a moment to acknowledge how much we
miss and revere Rush Limbaugh. So the Huffington Puffington Mister

(18:22):
Snerdley Trump posts Trump's you know your neighborhood under Trump
and your neighborhood under Kamala The picture of your neighborhood
under Trump is a tranquil residential street and American flag flying.
The picture of your neighborhood under Kamala is a picture

(18:45):
from last year of migrants to the United States sitting
outside the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City in hopes
of securing temporary housing. That Roosevelt Hotel. This is a
nice hotel, or would have been if they would I
forget if this is the one that was unfinished and

(19:06):
they decided to use it, I don't really remember. But
it has become like an intake center for homeless migrants.
Some have called it the New Ellis Island, And a
lot of people are saying, why are people staying at
that hotel? We live here in the neighborhood, we're here
in New York. We don't get a chance to stay
in that hotel. But someone has just come to this

(19:27):
nation legally or otherwise, who's just been bussed or flown
or train tracked up to New York whatever, They get
to stay in these nice hotels. What about people in
our community. Now that's a debatable conversation, but this story
from the Huffington Post doesn't engage in that conversation, they

(19:49):
point out Lucy that the migrants in the photo or
people of color. Therefore to point out, Oh, your neighborhood
Underkabla is going to be a lot of black people
or brown people, and that's what this nation's going to
look like under Kamala. Harris, if you think that's what
they were going for, hey, if you And by the way,

(20:10):
the picture of your neighborhood under Trump didn't show any people,
which maybe some people would say that's perfect. Fewer people.
Maybe there's people inside those homes. Maybe there's not quiet,
tranquil and American flag flying. Love it. Your neighbor neighborhood
under Kamala is sweaty masses of migrants who have no

(20:32):
place to be in this country, have no standing in
this country. Many have been put on terrorists watch lists
by our country, and now they're here and we're just
letting them in until such time is their asylum hearing
in five to seven years from now. But the Huffington
Post says that it's racist, and they go on to

(20:54):
say racism is a go to approach for Trump, as
evidence by his quest over a decade go to prove
that then President Barack Obama was not born in the
United States. Oh, that was racist because Obama is black.

(21:14):
And as far as all the rest of the stuff
that they say, they allege that racism is a go
to approach for Trump, they have nothing else.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Hey, I'm a little bit nervous to ask this question
since you know the last episode with what I learned
as a child. But if the Roosevelt was the new
Ellis Island, wouldn't every single person that came across the
border be vetted, prove that they had some cash to

(21:46):
establish themselves and be quarantined if they showed any signs
of illness.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, and they'd be given American sounding names. Well, I'm
how far do you want to go back?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm not saying that, but you can't call it the
new Ellis Island.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, now we've got the accusation here. I probably could
have put all this under a Trump date, but we
only had two Trump stories here and it's mostly about
Kamala Here accommodate, we also have this allegation here from
jd Vance towards Tim Walls about Walls's apostrophe s military service.

(22:28):
We'll get into this after a Fox News update next.
Scott Gordies News Radio eleven kfab started off the program
with this raging battle online regarding how to properly address
things like Harris's running mate or Harris's campaign. I know
how I would address them, but I'm talking not in

(22:50):
terms of my criticism. I'm talking about in terms of
the proper apostrophe of a possessive proper noun. Harris's hrs
apostrophe or apostrophe s ap Style dictates, and my ap

(23:10):
style book is still what I go to, the same
one I received when once again did I mention I
was the news editor as a freshman, by the way,
news editor of the weekly student newspaper, The Antelope at
your university, Nebraska at Carney. There's a pretty impressive thing

(23:31):
to do that as a freshman, I thought, till I realized, Oh,
no one else wants to do this job, and they
were more than happy to let me do it. Be
that as it may, AP Style says, it's just apostrophe.
So now we've got a bunch of emails coming in

(23:51):
regarding this issue and other issues related to grammar. Scheryl
email says Hi Scott Hi Cheryl. I taught students about possessives,
and I remember plurals ending with S received an apostrophe,
but it didn't apply to proper now, so it would
be Harris apostrophe S. That might be the way you

(24:14):
taught it, Cheryl. But Cheryl, I hate to tell you
you were dead wrong. You might as well have been
teaching those kids how to put mashed potatoes directly up
their noses, because what they learned from you was approximately
is easy for them to navigate through life with as
shoving hot pokers in their ears. What you taught them

(24:40):
was grossly incorrect. These poor mushmouthed little minions have been
running through life absolutely unaware that pretty much everything you
taught them was a lie. I don't know how they've
gotten through. Many of them are probably incarcerated. You should
show up, visit them in jail and apologize. Thank you.
Your email Scott at kfab dot com. Again, ap style dictates,

(25:06):
it's just an apostrophe. I don't want to be rude
or mean about it. Was that rude or mean?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
You're never rude or mean.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Cheryl also correctly thank you. Cheryl also correctly points out
a big She says, my biggest pet peeve is when
people say like Pat and I's job.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Who says that?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Who would say that? Bob Marley the only person who
can say that, Oh, pirates, Yes there, Rabbi, Yeah, Pat
and my job? Or mize do you want to do that?
I just want a great on Cheryl. Cheryl will never
listen to the show again. Cheryl, We love you. Thank
you very much for the email. Scott at kfab dot com.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
When are you going to get to these ones?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Kat says? And now we're just going into pet peeves?
Is this a petty complaint? Wednesday? My biggest pet peeve
is when someone says please and thank you, like as in,
get me a glass of water, please and thank you. Well,
you're not asking, now, you're not demanding, aren't you? Well?
Could you say in this example, wouldn't you say would

(26:21):
you get me a glass of water please and thank you?
Or would you like some water? Yes, please and thank you?
That's okay, right, But I guess in this way if
you started off with get me a glass of water
please and thank you, I don't know who's ordering cat around.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It doesn't sound like she's having it though.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
People probably getting a lot of water thrown in their
faces Brian says Scott, I was also the editor in
chief of my high school newspaper. Finally someone with whom
I can talk. Oh, he says, Nebraska State Journalism champion.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You're no longer no you can, you can no longer.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I am willing to sit here and learn from the master.
He says. I was appalled to find out in my
thirties that when referring to a family name that ends
in s, you would add an ees like the Vorhees is. Yes,
that is. That's why I have single handedly on behalf
of my entire Vorhees family tree. I have changed the

(27:32):
plural of my last name because Vorhees is that's what
I do. I say the Vorhees is to talk about
how ridiculous that sounds. I have changed the plural of
my family name to vor high v ol no v
o r H. I I did that. Jim wants to

(27:57):
know my position on the Oxford Comma. Well, if you're
at Oxford, you use it. Ap Style says, you don't
use it. The Oxford comma is, let's say you're labeling
three saying things like kat. We'll go back to the
earlier email. Would you please get me a glass of water,
pancakes and fried okra. You would put a comma after

(28:24):
the first thing, but not between the second and third thing.
If it's between a list and an and you don't
put a comma, that would be the Oxford comma. AP
style says no Oxford comma, And again I'm all about
AP style, as I clearly have a lot of style.

(28:47):
Thank you for asking, Jim. You'll notice that when I
list things on the radio, I don't include the Oxford
comma when speaking either. Trucker Bob just wants to know
when I I was in high school, was I ever
the class president or class clown? I was the class president.

(29:08):
I was probably the class clown, but not in a
he's funny, probably more like that guy has a clown.
But they didn't have a vote on that. They did
have a vote on class president. And I also didn't
have the foresight to realize at that time that when
you're the senior high class president, that is a designation
for life and you get to plan all of the
reunions for the rest of your days. Now, So why

(29:31):
I signed my emails to the class as class president
for life. Scott Vorhees thirty years next year. You better
show up if you're listening. If you were Ralston High
class in nineteen ninety five, We're going to have We're
gonna have a great party, I hope. All right, Let's

(29:54):
move on for now to this allegation of stolen valor.
Where is this coming from? Well, yesterday, Tim Walls, according
to this story, says, offered what was referred to as
a forceful defense of his record. The accusation is is
that Walls, who served for a long time in the
Army National Guard and I appreciate it, had left the

(30:17):
National Guard when he learned that perhaps he would be deployed.
He didn't want to go to a rock, so he
timed his retirement to avoid being deployed. I don't know
the timing is in the window of being suspect, but
JD Vance's out and out accused Walls of timing his

(30:43):
retirement to avoid being deployed to Iraq. So Walls yesterday says,
you know, I'm well here, this is a really good
way of putting a bow on this story. Here it
comes from Whas television that also includes something else, something else.
Tim Wallas has said that JD. Vance has pointed out

(31:07):
that apparently the media is just disregarding Let's listen, your voice,
your vote.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Tonight, Minnesota Governor Tim Wallas is defending his military record,
addressing criticism over past comments he made about his military service.
It came during his first solo campaign event since Vice
President Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate. Here's
ABC's Christian Cordero.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
It's been one week since the Harris Walls ticket kicked
off its campaign, and today, at his first solo campaign event,
Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walls is responding to the
sharpest attack against him.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I'm going to say it again as clearly as I can.
I am damn proud of my service to this country.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
While served in the Minnesota National Guard for twenty four years,
while teaching and coaching football, He left to run for
Congress months before his unit deployed to a rock. He
was the top House Democrat on the Veterans Affairs Committee.
But comments he made in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And we can make sure that those weapons of war
that I carried in war is the only place where
those weapons.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Were at all. Right, So that right there, that right there,
those weapons of war that I carried in war no,
you didn't. We'll listen to the rest of the story.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
And vice presidential nominee Senator JD. Vance's criticism on the
campaign trail.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
He has not spent a day in a combat zone.
What bothers me about Tim Waltz is the stolen valor garbage.
Do not pretend to be something that you're not.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Walls and Vance are both veterans. Neither saw active fighting.
The Harris Walls campaign says the governor misspoke. In Los
Angeles today, Walls made his case to a crowd of
union workers, saying Trump and Vance aren't looking out for them.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
The only thing those two guys knows about working people
is how to work to take advantage of them.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
And while speaking with ex CEO Elon Musk, Trump made
this pledge as one of his first acts if elected again.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I want to close up Department of Education, move education
back to.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
The states where states like Iowa, with states like Idaho.
You know, not everything will do great.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Harris is set to reveal her economic policy proposals later
this week.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Chris that as whas Louisville. Yeah, if you hadn't heard
the audio that was provided there, and that Elon Musk,
Trump conversation, it went through a filter that made Trump
sound a list being frown you know, like that, you know,

(33:30):
and people are like, wow, I didn't realize Trump had
a lisp. You're right, We've only been listening to this
guy talk forever. But it was during that conversation his
true voice came out and it wasn't at all a
technical thing whatever. By the way, they're saying now that
the the audio and the fact that they couldn't get
the thing running for forty minutes was because people were

(33:51):
trying to cyber attack it shut it down so people
couldn't hear the conversation where Elon Musk endorsed the presidential
ambitions of Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I understand, I understand other countries did.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well, that's yeah, that's part of the allegation.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Okay, So it wasn't here. It wasn't domestically that it
was being trying to be shut down.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Probably not. Yeah, well no, we've heard, you know, nations
like Iran they don't want to deal with Trump. They
absolutely want to deal with Kamala Harris Well, I don't
know why they would. Tim Wallas carried weapons of war
in war. He misspoke. Look, I misspeak. A lot, But

(34:33):
you know, you're out there talking off the top of
your head for hours and sometimes it just to me
even it sounds like, but I don't know that I
would misspeak and say that I did something that I
know for a fact I didn't do, like try and
give the impression I served in like in war, footing

(34:53):
in a combat zone, carrying weapons of war in war.
That gives an impression then, in his case, is not correct. Now,
I haven't heard him directly say, I don't know why
I said that. You know, I was talking, I was
all fired up, but came out. I didn't correct it.
Let me correct it now. I don't know why that
idiot ten years ago or whatever me said that. No,

(35:17):
I didn't do that. Instead, he's just like, I'm damn
proud of my military record, as you should be, but
I don't know why you felt the need to try
and make it more than it was. Speaking of war,
Ukraine suddenly did a sneak attack on Russia, and Russia

(35:38):
was like, hey, you can't do that to us, We're
doing that to you now. People were like, why is
Ukraine suddenly trying to escalate this conflict here? Why are
they doing that? Why would they suddenly provoke and attack
Russia on Russian soil. Well, I can tell you the
result of what just happened. Russia has been withdrawing forces
from Ukraine to help on the home front. Fewer Russian

(36:01):
soldiers right now are in Ukraine because they had to
go to Russia to stop this Ukraine invasion. Brilliant move.
We'll have to see Fox and KFAB news updates here
in just a moment, and then we'll go to the
latest here from the Nebraska legislature next on news radio

(36:22):
eleven to ten. KFAB. Join me in the studio someone
who is more well versed on what is going on
at the unic camera. Whether he is or he isn't,
he certainly sounds like he is.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He is.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Jim Rose of kfab's Morning News. You've been watching the
special session of the legislature with a lot of interest. Here.
Governor Pillen said, all right, we've got a lot of
property tax relief we can give Nebraska homeowners property owners
and people are like, but he's gonna get a bunch
of money because he owns a bunch of land. Yes,
and what I don't own as much land as Jim Pillen,

(36:58):
but I wouldn't mind saving a whole bunch of money.
Maybe it amounts to thousands of dollars a year, maybe
only hundreds of dollars a year. In my property tax
is not a million like Pilling. But I don't own
several million dollars worth of.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Ag land and property taxes.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
What do I expect? So that's part of what torpedoed this.
And then some people are like, well, we don't want
to start taxing things like pop and candy and consumable
hemp or tobacco and gambling and other so called sin
items and so forth. So Pilling sends all the legislators
back down there for the special session. They've been working

(37:34):
here for a couple of weeks or so, and now
they've they've voted yesterday to end debate on a bill
that now is, according to some people, a very simple
version that provides some property tax relief. Do you have
any idea, Jim, whether we're going to see any tax

(37:55):
relief as a result of this special session? They're not
done yet, but well, how's it look? Well, it doesn't
look very good, looks really bad. It started with Jim,
and this was back in July, before the special session began,
he launched and you probably saw the PowerPoint and all
that other stuff. Governor Hill, by the way, he has
spent a considerable amount of his own money promoting this,

(38:17):
and he has a lot, but he's willing to spend
a lot. And I haven't seen a lot of other
governors doing that, except in support of campaigns for other candidates.
So this is the first one that I can remember
in my lifetime that pulled money out of his own
pocket to promote some of his own initials. And he
went and took his time to go around the state,
I mean, which is the governor's job on some level,
but to twenty six different communities selling this property tax plan.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
And he assembled a group of legislators from both sides
of the aisle to during the course of the early
summer and late spring craft a proposal that they thought
and that he certainly believed had a chance to make
it past debate. But it takes thirty three votes to
end a filibuster, and that's a lot in a forty

(39:04):
nine body person body legislature, and they did not have
thirty three votes. So lou N Lenihan, who's chairman of
the Revenue Committee, find Senator from Elkorn said, look, we
got to get something done, so let's throw that out
and go to the bare minimum. So what they essentially
decided to do yesterday was to take the big tax

(39:25):
cut away. The fifty percent then went to forty percent,
then it went to thirty percent. Thirty percent of your
property taxes would have gone away. And I'll just assume Scott,
your house is seventy five hundred dollars in property tax,
maybe it's higher. That means that a third of that
would go away under his old plan. And you know,
in order to make up for that, there would be

(39:46):
about one hundred sales tax exemptions that would also go away,
to which you would pay seven point five percent. Now
I know you like to have a well groomed dog,
for example, Sure, in order for you to make up
the twenty two hundred dollars in savings that you're going
to get on your property taxes, you'd have to pay
tax on dog grooming six hundred times in a year.

(40:08):
Just to show you the scale difference.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think a lot of people groom take their dogs
to a groom or twice a day, right, So it
would take yeah, twice a day, every day, including New
Year's Eastern Christmas.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
All right, that's all gone. Now we don't have any
property tax relief, immediate property tax relief. So what you
paid and what our good friend, the county assessor decides
your house is worth, what you're going to pay next
year unless there's a protest or something radical happens. As
it relates to the package itself, there's about one hundred
and eighty million dollars, which is a dropping the bucket

(40:38):
into the property tax program. What they're going to do
is front load an income tax credit for property taxes paid.
What that means is you will see on your annual
property tax statement a front loaded tax credit that you
used to have.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
To apply for. Right so wait, wait, let me get
this straight. Most of us go and have someone do
our taxes for us, because I got tired of trying
to do it myself. And then, as Lewis Black said,
you signed that thing at the end of the year,
says I attested all of this is true to the
best of my knowledge, under penalty of law. And you
sign it and go, well, this is the year I'm
going to jail. Yes, you don't know, so you sent

(41:14):
you take it to someone correct, and they do it,
and they know in Nebraska. They know in Nebraska to
apply for this property tax relief, so exactly, so, right now,
the first thing I'm supposed to get in terms of
this great property tax relief from the unicameral is something
I already get. Correct. Well, then all right, so I'm
I'm still running on the treadmill whatever much. See.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
The only reason that was a factor is only about
fifty percent of us have been applying for it because,
like you, I used to be one of those who
just did the H and R block easy Form, and
I didn't apply for some of the tax credits to
which I was entitled. Jim and his staff, Governor Pillen
and his staff found that during the course of their
research and said, well, we can apply this to We'll

(41:54):
throw this on the pile. I'm glad other people are
seeing the people are going to get that relief. That's fun.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't think my tax prepare is going to charge
me less money to do my tax is not. Okay,
So it's a shet, you sex she pig. I'm so
what else? Yes, you're right, you're right, mine's a tax
mine's is she too? So I am a sexist pig.
That's the first thing. So it'll help somebody who hasn't
been doing it. That's it, you've been doing it. No help. Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
The one thing that is still in the bill as
of today, but I suspect if I were a betting man,
won't be in the bill is that there were restricting
annual increases in property tax asking authority by municipal and
county governments to zero percent in times of deflation or
the consumer price index, which could be one and a
half when Trump was president up to three. Well it

(42:41):
was seven, you know for a while there under our
good friend Joe Biden, and then inflation started going.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
This isn't This isn't the schools. This is all taxing authority.
It is the school.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
So it's the county which collects tax for your school
based on your levee. But uh, I would bet between
now and the time this bill makes it through to
the that will be gone.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
This is not that they have to give you a
break on your taxes. This is you can't up it
by so much related to the consumer price only.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Collect three percent more this year than you did last
year if the CPI index was three.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Now this isn't the assessor. The assessor can still say
your home is twice the value it used to be.
Now this has nothing to do with this. This caps the amount. Again,
it's as of this morning. This CAP's what they can
So that does restrict what the assessor can. He can
value your house anyway wants, but the county can only
collect three percent more or whatever the CPI indexes. Yes,

(43:35):
but you know what I'm saying here, You're saying that
a lot of these entities have said, we haven't raised
the levee here to electric property tax because they know
that the assessment of your value is going to be
that much more. They're getting more money without having to
raise the levee. The levee is not the problem. The
levee is not the problem. And the even the Douglas
County Assessor, while Pepper has said, look, I'm tied to

(43:56):
what the legislature has told me I need to do
in terms of assessment. I asked Governor Pillin about that once.
He said, Nebraskans want to see the value of their
property increase in value, which obviously they do. Of course,
there's a little bit of yeah, I wanted to increase
by a whole lot right before I'm about to sell it.
I don't want it to do that incrementally where I
pay property tax. But still even with this, we're not

(44:17):
talking about actually we're not talking about any savings on
property taxes. We're talking about maybe only a little bit
more I would pay in them based on this action
by the legislature to reduce what the various municipalities, the
counties and so forth can do. Well.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Actually, no, Actually, as we heard from leu Ann on
kfab's Morning News a couple of years, a couple of
week days ago, she said, no, what we're capping is
this is how much your check will increase for property
taxes next year if this lid is in place. Now
Jeans Dothrt County School. All these people are freaking out.

(44:55):
They're freaking out because that means they'll get a lot less.
They can't get the eight to nine percent increase in
revenues because valuations went up anymore under this, which is
why she's camped out or her people are camped out
down on the state Capitol and they are barking at
these state centators saying, if you do this, we'll lose roads,
we'll lose bridges, we'll lose traffic lights, We'll lose all

(45:17):
of these things because we need all this extra money.
School people say we'll have children get taking tests in
the outdoors because we can't keep the lights on in schools.
These are the kinds of fear tactics that they've been
using for generations to try to get a system put
in place where they get extra money without having to
ask for a tax increase. The governor has been clear,

(45:39):
we have to control local spending, and if they won't
do it on their own, we'll do it for them.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Now.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Last year he gave them a billion dollars in state
aid for K through twelve education, and they still raised
two hundred and eighty million more in property taxes. So
he said, okay, I gave you a chance to play along.
You decided not to. My next bill will cap what
you can collect. Now, what has been exempted from this
cap space is for public safety. The sheriffs and the

(46:07):
police officers and the firefighters have said, look, you can't
put a cap on public safety. You can cap all
the other stuff, like really for schools and counties and
cities and all that jazz, but you can't for public safety.
So it's a soft cap, which means that municipalities, they're
not stupid, they're going to walk around and say, let's
find a way to classify this under public safety so

(46:28):
we can avoid the lid. It's a soft cap. A
soft cap means no cap.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
So for those of us who do get the property tax,
the tax credit, the income tax credit for property tax
is paid. So we've already seen that in our taxes
here each year. Correct, we're still getting that, all right,
what we're paying property taxes is exactly what it has been.
And now we've capped some of these different authorities as

(46:56):
to how much they can increase it as of today,
right if this bill goes through it so I'm not
not only am I not seeing any property tax decreased,
it might actually go up a little. And this is
what they're talking about for the last hour with the
debate coming up here and they'll debate more later this week.
And this is where we are right now. This is

(47:17):
and not only this is where we are. This is
where we're paying thousands of dollars a day, yes, to
have these guys in special session to do.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Nothing, nothing, virtually nothing that's correct, And you know the
sad tragedy of this, and most tragedies are, said Scott,
is that this is this is about sausage making, and
sausage making and legislation is nothing for children to see
with their own eyes. But in this case, what you
have is you have a handful of Republican senators and

(47:47):
I'm gonna call out names. One of them is Julie Slama,
one of them is Senator Dover from North Norfolk, one
of them is merv Repeat, one of them is Ray
Aguilar from Grand Island, and probably a couple of others.
These people don't like Jim Pillon. These people have a
personal animus towards Jim Pillen. They don't like his style,
they don't like his personality, they don't like his take charge.

(48:10):
They don't like the way this was handled. They don't
like the fact that he didn't kiss their rear ends
in discussing a special session. Some of them were not
involved in the working group, because if you have too
many people involved in the working group, it's unworkable. So
what we have is a circular firing squad with Republicans,
and Nebraska has become famous for this. Republicans in Nebraska

(48:31):
screw other Republicans at almost every turn, and this is
a tragic, tragic end to what could have been transformative change.
What good does it do to have a majority of
your political party in any legislative or executive branch if
they don't work together, and they don't work together because

(48:52):
of personal animus. Julie Slama is unhappy with Jim Pillon
because Julie Slama wanted to be the state treasurer. Jim said, Julie,
you're not qualified to be the state treasurer. We need
somebody who's a treasurer slash accountant slash CPA kind of
person to be stated, and she's used this against him
ever since.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I don't know that to be true. I've connected the
thats and talked about.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
And she's term limited and she's done. Her political career.
Will will be frankly reflective of how much Pete Rickins
wants her to be in office. Because she's out, she
wanted to elevate her her political profile. Jim said, we
can do that for you, Senator Slama, but state treasure
is not the place for that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I've I've talked to Senator Slama about the special session
and I've criticized her for calling attention to pilling making
a lot of money. You know, that's class warfare, that's
beneath her. But I've championed her for saying, we need
to address how much we're spending in the state. We
need to do something about this first, and then we
can figure out the rest of it. She's been a
champion on that front. She's been filming Mikayla Makan, show

(50:01):
me her bills. Show me the bills that Senator Slama
as an example, and I'm just singling her out here now,
but she's not alone. Show me all of the bills,
the transformative property tax bills that she has presented in
the last six years, and the answer is zero. None have.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
She's champion transformative change. She's obstructed things, but she has
shown me if you show me all of the bills
that you've introduced that will transform property taxes in Nebraska,
I will retract what I've said about you. That's not
happened because she doesn't share the same philosophy.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Well, she's one vote, and we got a number of
other people who have found a way to get us
to this point where we both agreed a moment ago
looks like, not only are we not saving anything on
property taxes as a result of the special session, but
our tax rate might go up a little bit. That yeah,
seems completely contrary to what Governor Pillen did all of

(50:55):
this for. It's contrary to what seventy five to eighty
percent of Nebraskans want and every property owner in Nebraska.
Watch all right, I really appreciate you hanging around doing
overtime here. That's Jim Rows kfab's morning news about to
post the rosie to Genozi to the Jim rows podcast
link at kfab dot com if you missed that at

(51:15):
eight forty eight this morning and every morning here on
eleven ten kfab speaking of spending money here locally. When
it comes to issues regarding safety your roads, some people
in South Omaha said, I shouldn't be able to see
the sky from here. I'll explain next Scott Boys News
Radio eleven tenn KFAB. Lucy, if your traffic reports recently

(51:38):
included the South Omaha Bridge at thirty six, then l streets.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
No, my, what's going on? Segments have?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
It's holy?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yes, I like if you don't catch Lucy enough. On
ninety nine point nine Kgo r Omaha's greatest. You hear
her in the afternoon on KGr, and you hear the
what's going on segments during Billy and Judy on kgr's
morning show. Really good stuff. So do you want to

(52:12):
do this story and tell about this bridge there at
thirty sixth to now.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well, it's there's a lot of holes in it and
the sidewalk is falling down. Yes, that they've had to
brace up. They took the time to go out and
put braces in the sidewalk so that doesn't fall down anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
It's a well, I don't think it's not the sidewalk,
it's the street.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
It's both.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
It's well, yeah, it probably is.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
The sidewalk is separating from the bridge.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
So this is the bridge on it's l Street over
thirty sixth right, and people are on thirty sixth Street
and they're driving under and there's like there's a pile
of rubble here on thirty sixth Street and they look

(53:00):
up and they can see the sky through the bridge
and they said, well, that's never looked like that before.
I shouldn't be able to see daylight coming through. And
then there's the car is going over, and every time
a car goes over, more rubble falls on the street below,
and people said, I think that the bridge is going
to fall down. So WWT six News brought out a

(53:23):
guy from the Nebraska Department of Transportation and they said, well,
is this bridge okay? He goes it's pretty good. Basically,
it's structurally sound, which I think means the bridge itself
isn't going to collapse. The bridge is not going to
fall down now. The concrete, yeah, the cars drive over

(53:46):
that might continue to fall apart and a car might
fall into it, but the bridge itself isn't going to
fall down. The concrete span might be such that it
might be dangerous to drive over this, but the bridge
it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Well, come on, Scott. They patched it up with some plywood.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
They did. They put plywood over it, which right now
is working. You know what, that's what I would do.
Get me some duct tape and some plywood that we'll
fix this right now. And they say, well, we can
see that there's an ever widening hole in the road
and you can see the ground below. When are you
going to put new concrete over the entire bridge? When

(54:27):
are you going to do the long term fix to
do this right, and they said, oh, we have this
on our schedule for when we're looking at twenty twenty nine.
So right now the patchwork is plywood and a little
bit of concrete over the plywood, which will probably actually

(54:49):
work fine. But people are thinking that the bridge is
going to collapse. Not This isn't a wide span or anything.
This is just a little it's it's a bridge over
a two lane road.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Well, I don't think anybody's going to go on the
record on camera saying it's probably fine if they don't
think it is.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
This bridge is eighty five years old. You know, at
eighty five sometimes stuff falls off.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You've seen it, and you can still fix it with plywood.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Right, you know, put a little polydant on that bridge,
it'll be fine. So I know that Ron Hug, the
councilman for South Omaha. Who's Ron Hug? Remember if any Palermo?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so Palermo's gone. Hug is in there,
he says. As soon as this video started going viral,
people started calling their representative in South Omaha, hey, do

(55:45):
something about this bridge, and he says, well, I'm not
an engineer, but if you look at that in comparison
to other spots that failed, it's easy to make a
guess that maybe these are future holes, and can we
be more proactive for doing something long term with this
bridge future future holes? And so that's why the Department

(56:07):
of Transportation was out there with the plywood and a
little bit of spackle or whatever, and they say, yeah,
it's it's it's probably it's pretty good. We'll do the
whole thing right in twenty twenty nine. In the meantime,
I wouldn't drive any real bit, Like how big are
that cyber truck from Tesla? How heavy is that? I
wouldn't drive. Maybe it's El Street, it's uh what two

(56:31):
seventy five, it's a big that's a truck. It's a
major highway. So if you're going over that area to
go to Guacamaya or one of the fine establishments in
that vicinity, yeah, it's probably gonna be fine. Uh. Next story,
Here's something that people do all day, every day, but

(56:53):
happening for years, but every once in a while you
get stuck in a national landmark. I'll explain after a
Fox News up date. Next Scott Voice, Lucy, we got
an email here in the Zoncers custom was in box
Scott at kfab dot com on something that you mentioned
a couple of days ago, and it was eating at
this guy. Actually, last night I got this email from Jamie.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I feel very beat up right now.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Says it says, Hey, Scott, sorry to be emailing so late.
First of it doesn't matter to me when you email me.
I don't as much as I'm always checking my email,
I don't get a notification when you email me, even
if it's late at night. It's not like I'm up.
What is it? Jamie's got a question? That's not how

(57:40):
I have it set up so you can email me
anytime you want. It occurred to me after listening to
you too, I never heard if Lucy won her bet
about Sandy's hair in Greece. Do you want to reset
what this was all about and give us the verdict?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yes, we were watching an old like kind of a
variety show where uh Olivia Newton John was on. If
she was performing?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Did unfortunately have to be old?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Well? Yeah, because Andy Gibb was there.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
And also she's dead but anyway, yes, well so is he? Yeah,
but we're not talking about him anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Go on, hopelessly devoted to you. She was performing that song.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
And I feel very strongly about you two. I'm sorry.
What hey, So you were what you saw Olivia Newton
John and then you and your husband had a fight.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
And I said that that what's that? Wasn't a fight?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I said, that's drag out fight.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I said, that's a dumb hairstyle. I remember those dumb
hairstyles back in the late seventies early eighties. And he
said it was. It was exactly the hairstyles that she
was had in the movie when she sang this song.
And I said, no, it's not and he did not
believe me. And guess who won.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Him?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Ding ding d oh, you won? I won.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Wow. The fact that he said it was.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Pulled back in a ponytail and it wasn't. It was
pulled back in a headband.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
The fact that pulled back in a headband is not
the same as being pulled back in a ponytail.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
This is what it would look like like where I've
got my hair pulled.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Band clips like you know, cos like sweeps back.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, the back is still down.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Okay, like a guy with a comb over. It wasn't
pulled back and it wasn't in a ponytail. He thought
it was in a ponytail, all right, So her hair
was back, but it was whether or not it was
don't get all the technical on me or ponytail. It
was a different hairstyle. Okay, So you won that bet.
I did win the bet, and my steaks on the
bet were that the loser has to dress up like

(59:46):
Olivia Newton John from Grease, and then you guys go
out to a nice dinner. So what were the steaks.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
To be determined?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Okay, Well, the fact that your husband didn't know as
much about the movie Grease as his wife does, that
is a point in his favor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I figured it would be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
And we talked a moment ago about this bridge at
thirty six then l eighty five years old, it's falling apart. Hey,
it happens on the bright side. The bridge did go
out and play golf yesterday and shoot its age, so
it's you know, it's still got some life left in it.
But this bridge, there's a big hole that was wearing
out in one of the lanes of traffic, so that

(01:00:34):
if you were driving on thirty sixth Street under this
l Street bridge, you could look up and see the sunshine,
which you can't usually do through a bridge unless you
have X ray vision or there is what would be
the equivalent of a pothole in a bridge. This is
a good one, and so they went out and put
some plywood on it. There, I fixed it. What else

(01:00:54):
do we need to do around here? And some people said,
I'm afraid the bridge is going to fall down. Sometimes
things after so many years do fall apart. Now the
Department of Transportation says, yeah, the bridge is pretty good.
It's not gonna fall down. So you know that you
got that, But we also have what just happened yesterday

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at a national I would call it a national monument,
the Gateway arch in Saint Louis national monument point of interest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
You could either one would be acceptable, but I would
go with monument. Yeah, have you ever been there all
the way to the top?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Did you do the same thing my wife did?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Because now I was probably about ten.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
You go when okay, so you go up to the
top here. You probably wouldn't have thought this at ten.
Now my wife thought this. I don't remember whether she
was with child at the time or whatever. But like
some women who occasionally what ends up happening is like

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the joke here is Lucy's always blaming me, going, did
you call me fat? You know? So you kind of
have this this thought about you know, have I could
I stand to lose a few pounds, which in the
case of my wife has never been the case. And
the only parameters I've ever given her based on her
her playing weight is I said, hi, you get you
can get rotund if you want, just don't get so

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fat that the fat from your cheeks comes up here
and covers up those beautiful brown eyes of yours. And
she said, my eyes are blue, And I said, oh no,
I that was my only thing. My wife is perfect
in every way other than her taste in men. Where
was I? Anyway? She's at the top of the Saint

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Louis Arch and when you get up there, there's little
portal holes that you can look through and see the
ground below. Spoiler alert, it's just Saint Louis. It's not
a great view. So she's you have to lean over
and look out these windows.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Wow, what do you have against Saint Louis? That was
a terrible remark.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
And she leans, I'm gonna move past it. She leans
over and because she's leaning over against the wall and
looking out the window. She was afraid that her leaning
over was going to cause the arch to fall down,
like it was like, well, you know, like tipping something
over too much, there's too much weight on one side.

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She did. She was like, are you sure it's okay
for me to lean against this wall and look out
this window. It's not going to cause the thing to
tip over. My wife just told me I'm terrible with timing.
She goes, I wasn't with child. We were dating still.
It was on the way back from Andrea's wedding. All right, Yeah,
that's true. After Andrea got married, it was a lovely marriage,

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lasted just a few years. We'll go there again for
her next wedding, and I will go up to the
arch again, but this time hopefully what happens to us,
By the way, spoiler alert part two, the arch did
not fall down. Well, leaning over against the wall to
look out the window sure is not going to be like,
all right, we need everyone on this side. One person's
going to lean over on this side and look out

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the window.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It may have fallen over. It just blended in with
Saint Louis.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Doesn't look like that well. You know, really, my criticism
of Saint Louis is twofold one. It's the only place
I've ever been in a casino where you had to
remember those old cartoons they show you in school where
if your house is on fire you have to crawl
down on all fours to get below the smoke to

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get out of the house. Yeah, that is how you
had to traverse through this casino that allowed smoking. Someone
thought it'd be a good idea to allow smoking with
very low ceilings and so you couldn't see. You had
to get down on all fours to get through there.
And this was one of the finest casinos in Saint Louis.
The other problem was Saint Louis. I was there once.

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I saw Elton John and concert there. It's a long story,
great concert, and I'm checking into this hotel and I said, yeah,
I noticed there's a golf course near here, and they said, yeah,
if you're gonna be playing in this golf course, we recommend.
It's a good golf course. Just don't hang out and
stay there past dark. I'm like, it's a golf course. Yeah,

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it's got a little sketchy I'm like, what so even
the golf courses in some areas of Saint Louis after dark,
little sketchy. Other than that, it's a fine, fine place.
I haven't spent enough time in Saint Louis. I was
on the radio there for a couple of days in person. Yeah,
I didn't do any of this on the radio there. Yeah.

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I actually went and did a show for them, helped
out years ago. Thanks for telling us that, Scott. What
happened at the arch? Twenty five passengers got stuck inside
because in order to get to the top you have
to get in these little pod shaped trams that go
up the side of the thing and then work their
way over. They got stuck in there for almost three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
What. Yeah, they're not air tight, are they?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Now? Everyone's okay. No one required medical attention. I guess
there had to have been at least one of the
twenty five people in there, at least one who was
kind of already on the verge of I need to
go to the bathroom. Well, let's go up to the
top of the arch. They got restrooms up there. I
don't know, but we're not going to be up there

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too long. I'll just need to go sometime in the
next hour or two three hours later, someone's up there
doing the peepee dance.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I hope no one exploded. These are the things I
think about twenty five people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I must be remembering my trip wrong, because it wasn't
didn't seem like they were that big, like five or
six peoples.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
All. I agree, it didn't seem like there were that
many people in there. But again, you were ten, yeah
when you went up there, and my wife and I
were dating, so that was that seems like a mint
million years ago and yesterday, honey, and you know, but
they got enough that they had twenty five people in there,
and they got stuck. Garrett. There was probably someone needed

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to use the restroom. Someone was probably an hysterics, we're
all going to die. And there was also some guy
sidling up to the women, going, you know, if it's
our last day on Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I'd be more afraid of the guy needed a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Well' Saint Louis, you can smoke right there in the pods,
I think. Regarding OPPD, the CEO says, all right, we've
got after the storm blew through here two years ago,
and we had another giant windstorm in twenty twenty one,
a lot of people without power. We are going to
be doubling down on upgrades. We're going to be looking

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at placing some lines underground over the years to come,
and we're going to be busy replacing all four hundred
thousand plus meters in our service territory with modern meters.
These meters will report outages directly to OPPD. Why do
I say, be careful what you wish for, because apparently we,

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as OPPD ratepayers, are gonna be paying a lot of
money to replace perfectly good power meters that do one thing,
report outages directly to OPPD as opposed to the people
just calling OPPD and telling them, well we couldn't have that.
Let's spend a bunch of money. You know what's gonna happen.
The meter will say my power's out, and then EDNA

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will call and say my power's out. Scott Voyes mornings
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