September 17, 2024 • 8 mins
Why is the Douglas County Sheriff at the border? Like he says, 'We're all in a border town now.'
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorde got a contingent of Nebraskans down at our
southern border, not with Kansas, our America southern border with Mexico.
And one of those who is down there with the
fellow Nebraskans is Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson, now Sheriff Hanson.
I've watched enough dukes of hazard to know that once
(00:21):
you get outside county lines, you're out of your jurisdiction, Sheriff.
So what are you doing down there?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, actually, we were invited down here for I think
I'm the only Nebraska down here at this point. It's
a group of sheriffs and state legislatures from across the
United States, and we're getting direct training by the Texas
Bureau Public Safety and then also the Border Patrol down here.
We just had a great presentation by the Border Patrol
(00:50):
Sector Chief Glorious Chavez, she's in charge of the Rio
Grande sector, and also by Major Arturo del Garza with
a tech this Department of Public Safety on Operation Loan Star,
and boy a lot that folks need to understand what's
happening down here. But then also I think Texas, the
(01:11):
federal and state efforts are showing that you can change
the behavior when it comes to illegal border crossings, and
they are they are They're making it work in Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now, the Biden administration and our presidential contender Kamala Harris
are saying that border crossings are going down. They seem
to be taking credit for it. What is Operation Loan
Star and why is that credited with being a Texas
thing and not an American border policy thing.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Sure well, having a few conversations just here at the
Hotel UH with some folks that are that are in
the border patrol effort, it seems like it's a combination
of two things down here in Texas. Number One, Obviously,
I think it's no secret that the federal government has
up their game in terms of having less tolerance for
illegal border crossings. And so the sentiment I'm getting here
(02:01):
from boots on the ground folks is that's temporary and
they anticipate that after the election's over that those numbers
are probably going to surge again. But what Texas is proving,
especially in this real Grande Valley area, is that when
you do have enhanced cooperation between the state, local and
federal government, you can change the behavior, and so what Texas.
(02:23):
You know, the governor of Texas got a lot of
negative press because he put up the buoys and he
had Texas CPS folks channeling people away from a legal
crossing area. So they did it on purpose. They wanted
to document through legal crossing areas the folks that were
coming over. You know, Chief Jaba has talked about the
fact that in Brownsville area they had forty five thousand
(02:44):
people in twenty six days crossing over the Camp Monument
area and they only had thirty five hundred detention capability
locations in that area, and so that meant they had
to detain the people with the criminal records and release
the rest. It's not because they want to, they had
no option other than to do that. And so that
(03:06):
cooperation between the Texas GPS and the Federal Bureau Protection Service.
Obviously it still is resulting in people coming across the border,
but at least we're documenting who they are and we
have hopefully a better idea who they are.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So this isn't stopping people from coming into this country.
And the accusation is that they're not illegal immigrants. They're
given some level of allow us to be in the
country while they wait several years, I mean five to
seven years in many instances, to hear their case for asylum.
In many cases, they don't show up for those hearings,
(03:44):
and when they do, they're often not granted asylum. This
is a joke. They're let into the country never to
be seen or heard from again, so we know who
they are, but they're released into the country anyway. Is
that what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, I think it many cases that that, unfortunately is
the process while people are awaiting their asylum. But I
think where you are starting to see the cooperative effort
bending the curve. You've got to remember a lot of
this illegal migration is fueled and managed by the cartels,
and so whereas drug cartels, you know, Mexican cartels were
(04:19):
making the bulk of their money from drug smuggling in
years past, now they're making it from human smuggling. And
so we're getting some numbers on the massive number of
Chinese migrants that are coming through managed by the Mexican cartels,
and so what they're doing is they're trying to make
it harder for these folks to come across, documenting them
(04:42):
and that means the cartels have less incentive to smuggle
either someone who's on the Terrace watch list or someone
who may be trying to come across the Texas boarded
to do corporate espionage on SpaceX. Apparently they're really concerned,
you know. They said that space X now has three
thousand employees down here, and they're really afraid that Texas
(05:02):
that China is sending espionage spies over to get and
steal that intellectual property. And so they're doing now seven
to ten hour interviews with any Chinese migrant with an interpreter.
And what's happening is you're seeing a change in the behavior.
So now the cartels are moving the smuggled humans to
(05:22):
Arizona and California because there's not as much of pressure
like Texas has put on them here on the border.
And I think that's where Arizona and California need to learn.
We need to come up with better policies to disincentivize
that human flow. Regardless. One last thing, Scott, they talked
a lot about these folks that come up through South
America and Central America, Panama. What used to take thirty
(05:44):
days to get someone up to the US. Mexican border
is now taken five and keep in mind the human
element too. They're handing out rape prevention kits in Panama
for the females that include, you know, condoms and other
types of prophylactics and health health supplies to help prevent
(06:05):
these women from being raped as they're on this trek
up to the US Mexican border. At the crisis on
many levels.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
How long are you going to be down in Texas
and what else is the week going to cover as
you're down there looking at the issue on our border.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So the first half of the day is classroom session again,
we're being taught at Texas BPS and the Border Patrol
chiefs down here and majors. And then at three o'clock
we're going to get on a bus and we're going
to actually travel for the rest of the day. It's
going to be a long day. We're going to go
on a ranch and firsthand get eyes on smuggling operations.
(06:44):
We'll be able to sit in surveillance points and get
a first hand view of this crisis actually at the
Texas Mexico border.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So what town are you in down there, McCallen.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We're in McAllen, Texas, right now, call in Texas just.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
To recap everything. We're talking here with Sheriff Aaron Hanson.
I'm sure there'll be more than a few people going.
Why is the sheriff of Douglas County, Nebraska, Omaha, Nebraska
area thirteen some hours away at our southern border. What
does that have to do with Omaha?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, because you know, essentially every state is now a
border state, and I think that you know, as example
number one, there's a lot of education and discussion on
this new Venezuelan gang trend to Agua. And I know
that there was a lot of controversy people not being
able to get all the facts about what happened in Aurora,
(07:39):
Colorado here recently. But they found out that this trend
de l Argua group took over a hotel in ol
Paso here recently and right now the state said the
local government are trying to get them out of this
hotel and they'll passo. What they do is they'll take
over either an apartment building or in this case, an hotel,
(08:00):
and they'll extort people for money, They'll engage in sex trafficking,
they'll engage in other criminal behavior. And yesterday the governor
of Texas. Governor Abbott actually declared trendil Argua a terrorist organization,
and so that's giving them additional tools to actually have
the government come in take over these properties that this
(08:22):
Venezuelan gang are taking over and trying to root them
out in Texas. So that's the trendil Argu Venezuelan gang
is a hot topic, heure, and they are spreading out
around the US.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Douglas Kunty Sheriff Aaron Hanson keeping an eye on things
not just in our county, but in our country down
there on America's southern border in Texas. Sheriff, appreciate the
time this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Scott by the Mornings nine to eleven on news radio
eleven ten KFAB
Scott Vorde got a contingent of Nebraskans down at our
southern border, not with Kansas, our America southern border with Mexico.
And one of those who is down there with the
fellow Nebraskans is Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson, now Sheriff Hanson.
I've watched enough dukes of hazard to know that once
(00:21):
you get outside county lines, you're out of your jurisdiction, Sheriff.
So what are you doing down there?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, actually, we were invited down here for I think
I'm the only Nebraska down here at this point. It's
a group of sheriffs and state legislatures from across the
United States, and we're getting direct training by the Texas
Bureau Public Safety and then also the Border Patrol down here.
We just had a great presentation by the Border Patrol
(00:50):
Sector Chief Glorious Chavez, she's in charge of the Rio
Grande sector, and also by Major Arturo del Garza with
a tech this Department of Public Safety on Operation Loan Star,
and boy a lot that folks need to understand what's
happening down here. But then also I think Texas, the
(01:11):
federal and state efforts are showing that you can change
the behavior when it comes to illegal border crossings, and
they are they are They're making it work in Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Now, the Biden administration and our presidential contender Kamala Harris
are saying that border crossings are going down. They seem
to be taking credit for it. What is Operation Loan
Star and why is that credited with being a Texas
thing and not an American border policy thing.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Sure well, having a few conversations just here at the
Hotel UH with some folks that are that are in
the border patrol effort, it seems like it's a combination
of two things down here in Texas. Number One, Obviously,
I think it's no secret that the federal government has
up their game in terms of having less tolerance for
illegal border crossings. And so the sentiment I'm getting here
(02:01):
from boots on the ground folks is that's temporary and
they anticipate that after the election's over that those numbers
are probably going to surge again. But what Texas is proving,
especially in this real Grande Valley area, is that when
you do have enhanced cooperation between the state, local and
federal government, you can change the behavior, and so what Texas.
(02:23):
You know, the governor of Texas got a lot of
negative press because he put up the buoys and he
had Texas CPS folks channeling people away from a legal
crossing area. So they did it on purpose. They wanted
to document through legal crossing areas the folks that were
coming over. You know, Chief Jaba has talked about the
fact that in Brownsville area they had forty five thousand
(02:44):
people in twenty six days crossing over the Camp Monument
area and they only had thirty five hundred detention capability
locations in that area, and so that meant they had
to detain the people with the criminal records and release
the rest. It's not because they want to, they had
no option other than to do that. And so that
(03:06):
cooperation between the Texas GPS and the Federal Bureau Protection Service.
Obviously it still is resulting in people coming across the border,
but at least we're documenting who they are and we
have hopefully a better idea who they are.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So this isn't stopping people from coming into this country.
And the accusation is that they're not illegal immigrants. They're
given some level of allow us to be in the
country while they wait several years, I mean five to
seven years in many instances, to hear their case for asylum.
In many cases, they don't show up for those hearings,
(03:44):
and when they do, they're often not granted asylum. This
is a joke. They're let into the country never to
be seen or heard from again, so we know who
they are, but they're released into the country anyway. Is
that what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, I think it many cases that that, unfortunately is
the process while people are awaiting their asylum. But I
think where you are starting to see the cooperative effort
bending the curve. You've got to remember a lot of
this illegal migration is fueled and managed by the cartels,
and so whereas drug cartels, you know, Mexican cartels were
(04:19):
making the bulk of their money from drug smuggling in
years past, now they're making it from human smuggling. And
so we're getting some numbers on the massive number of
Chinese migrants that are coming through managed by the Mexican cartels,
and so what they're doing is they're trying to make
it harder for these folks to come across, documenting them
(04:42):
and that means the cartels have less incentive to smuggle
either someone who's on the Terrace watch list or someone
who may be trying to come across the Texas boarded
to do corporate espionage on SpaceX. Apparently they're really concerned,
you know. They said that space X now has three
thousand employees down here, and they're really afraid that Texas
(05:02):
that China is sending espionage spies over to get and
steal that intellectual property. And so they're doing now seven
to ten hour interviews with any Chinese migrant with an interpreter.
And what's happening is you're seeing a change in the behavior.
So now the cartels are moving the smuggled humans to
(05:22):
Arizona and California because there's not as much of pressure
like Texas has put on them here on the border.
And I think that's where Arizona and California need to learn.
We need to come up with better policies to disincentivize
that human flow. Regardless. One last thing, Scott, they talked
a lot about these folks that come up through South
America and Central America, Panama. What used to take thirty
(05:44):
days to get someone up to the US. Mexican border
is now taken five and keep in mind the human
element too. They're handing out rape prevention kits in Panama
for the females that include, you know, condoms and other
types of prophylactics and health health supplies to help prevent
(06:05):
these women from being raped as they're on this trek
up to the US Mexican border. At the crisis on
many levels.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
How long are you going to be down in Texas
and what else is the week going to cover as
you're down there looking at the issue on our border.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So the first half of the day is classroom session again,
we're being taught at Texas BPS and the Border Patrol
chiefs down here and majors. And then at three o'clock
we're going to get on a bus and we're going
to actually travel for the rest of the day. It's
going to be a long day. We're going to go
on a ranch and firsthand get eyes on smuggling operations.
(06:44):
We'll be able to sit in surveillance points and get
a first hand view of this crisis actually at the
Texas Mexico border.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So what town are you in down there, McCallen.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We're in McAllen, Texas, right now, call in Texas just.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
To recap everything. We're talking here with Sheriff Aaron Hanson.
I'm sure there'll be more than a few people going.
Why is the sheriff of Douglas County, Nebraska, Omaha, Nebraska
area thirteen some hours away at our southern border. What
does that have to do with Omaha?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, because you know, essentially every state is now a
border state, and I think that you know, as example
number one, there's a lot of education and discussion on
this new Venezuelan gang trend to Agua. And I know
that there was a lot of controversy people not being
able to get all the facts about what happened in Aurora,
(07:39):
Colorado here recently. But they found out that this trend
de l Argua group took over a hotel in ol
Paso here recently and right now the state said the
local government are trying to get them out of this
hotel and they'll passo. What they do is they'll take
over either an apartment building or in this case, an hotel,
(08:00):
and they'll extort people for money, They'll engage in sex trafficking,
they'll engage in other criminal behavior. And yesterday the governor
of Texas. Governor Abbott actually declared trendil Argua a terrorist organization,
and so that's giving them additional tools to actually have
the government come in take over these properties that this
(08:22):
Venezuelan gang are taking over and trying to root them
out in Texas. So that's the trendil Argu Venezuelan gang
is a hot topic, heure, and they are spreading out
around the US.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Douglas Kunty Sheriff Aaron Hanson keeping an eye on things
not just in our county, but in our country down
there on America's southern border in Texas. Sheriff, appreciate the
time this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Scott by the Mornings nine to eleven on news radio
eleven ten KFAB
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