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October 31, 2024 51 mins
Ok, it's really not that scary (though I do sing for a moment today).  Today's varied conversations include a pro-life attorney defending Initiative 434 against some pro-life voices, Omaha native Yolonda Ross promoting her new film ("Absolution" with Liam Neeson), Lucy and I mocking this "Beggers' Night" madness in Des Moines, PottCo Sheriff Andy Brown explaining what they do there different from DoCo that keeps them off the sanctuary county list, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgiez.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Two of the initiatives that you'll be asked about here
in Nebraska are, according to many people, directly in opposition
to each other. But we talked to someone on the
show last week who said, there's no difference between the two.
These are the abortion initiatives four thirty four and four
thirty nine, and four thirty nine has such vague language

(00:26):
in there that many, myself included, have interpreted that you
could pretty much literally have an abortion for any reason
they come up with up to and right before the
moment the doctor would say here's the head. I see
the head. You could change your mind and say I
never mind, I don't want I didn't know it was
going to have a head, you know, and you could

(00:48):
take you know, that situation into your own hands at
that point. I don't think that would happen, but the
language is vague enough that it would be essentially an
abortion free forer all. Now, there are those who say
that four thirty four doesn't actually stop hardly any of
the abortions that happened in Nebraska, as nearly all of

(01:10):
them happened within the first twelve weeks anyway, And we
had a pro life activist on the radio last week
who said this is not going to stop any of
those abortions. Mary and Minor asked to be a part
of this conversation. He's a pro life attorney, Associate director
for pro life and Family Policy with the Nebraska Catholic Conference,

(01:32):
and Marion joins us. Now, good morning, and welcome to
news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Good morning, Scott. Really happy to be with you this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Glad to have you here with us this morning. As
as that person said last week, most of the abortions
in Nebraska happened within the first twelve weeks. The language
of four to thirty four codifies what the legislature did
this last session that says you can't have an abortion
after twelve weeks. Why is this a pro life bill?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah? Absolutely So I want to say, I want to
get to your question, but I want to say a
couple of things up front, Scott.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Is.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
The first thing is that if Nebraska becomes a regional
destination state for late term abortions and late term abortion
facilities because pro life are split on four thirty four,
an incremental pro life initiative, that would be a real
tragedy that would be a real shame. That's something we

(02:27):
can't allow to happen. And that would be my first
appeal for people to support.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
For thirty four.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Let me jump in on that one, because some people
will say, oh, people aren't going to come to Nebraska
just to have the Maybe they don't. They weren't here.
They don't remember what happened when Ernie Chambers led a
charge in the Nebraska legislature years ago. They said you
could safe haven a child up to the age of eighteen,
and people said the same thing, They're not going to
come here and drop off their maladjusted teenagers. And that's

(02:54):
exactly what happened. They had to go back into special
session and shut that down because people were taking vacation
and leaving Nebraska without their twelve year olds. It was nuts.
I'm sure you remember that.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, absolutely, And similar things have happened in the abortion
context in recent years too. You know, Missouri and Iowa
and South Dakota and Wyoming, North Dakota, many other states
around US have pretty strong pro life protections, stronger than
what we have in Nebraska. And if Nebraska becomes essentially
a free for all for late term abortion, they will

(03:28):
build new abortion facilities in Nebraska and attempt to attract
business from the surrounding states. And they've done that, you know,
just across the river from Saint Louis, Missouri, where abortion
is essentially illegal in Missouri, right across the river in Illinois,
they established a gigantic abortion mill essentially to try and

(03:49):
attract business from Missouri. And there's no reason to believe
that wouldn't happen in Nebraska, considering the strong pro life
protections that exist in other states. If four point thirty
nine is allowed, just.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
When you thought East Saint Louis couldn't get any crappier,
that's interesting. I didn't realize that. So, yeah, that's a
compelling argument. But to the question I asked here, with
most of the abortions in Nebraska right now, the overwhelming
majority of them happened within the first twelve weeks, four
thirty four would allow abortions up to twelve weeks first trimester.

(04:20):
Does this stop abortions in Nebraska?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
So I think there are two reasons why I would
say yes, it does. You know, I've heard this argument
that from people who oppost four thirty four, who say
that it wouldn't save even one life, and that's wrong.
That's wrong for two reasons. One, what if our state
legislature goes whacking in twenty years and repeals our pro
life laws. That's something that's within the realm of possibility.

(04:47):
I think we'd be awfully glad to have some protection
for babies in our state constitutions then, and that would
certainly save many lives. The second argument I would make
hearkens back to the what we were just talking about.
Four thirty nine exists and there's a real possibility that
it passes. And if four thirty nine doesn't go down

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either by flat rejection of the people or by getting
beat out by four thirty four, now we have essentially
a full term abortion in Nebraska, and that has ramifications
far beyond people who live in Nebraska having later abortions.
That means people coming from Iowas, South Dakota, Ioming, Missouri,
all places with better protections for unborn life. And as

(05:30):
we talked about, more demand brings more supply, which means
more abortion mills. We're not talking about like a three
or four percent increase in abortion. We're talking about potentially
a massive increase of abortions in Nebraska, making it a
regional center for late term abortions. So this argument that
it doesn't save even one life just doesn't hold It
doesn't hold water to me based on the fact that

(05:52):
if four thirty nine passes, and it is a real
threat to pass, despite the what I think is wishful
thinking on the part of many who just can't happen here.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Than this.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
These are the potential consequences we're talking about, and we're
talking about a lot more than just one life, or
a lot more than just a couple hundred lives. We're
talking about potentially thousands of lives if Nebraska allowed for
thirty nine to tryumph.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Another couple of minutes here with maryon Minor Nebraska Catholic
Conference and a pro life attorney, what is your response
to those who say that an initiative like four thirty
four would have too much government intrusion in a women's
health care decision as to what she wants to do
for her own body. And the argument is that you

(06:37):
got old white conservative men telling women, even in situations
of miscarriage or IVF, Nope, we know better than you
you're going to have to deal to with. You know what,
We've decided is best for you. That's how this is portrayed.
What's your response to that.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, my response to that is that you need to
look at I think people could derive some comfort from
actually looking at the status of our laws as they exist.
So in chapter seventy one, and I believe it's section
sixty nine fourteen in our state laws, right, we define abortion.

(07:15):
The state defines abortion, and it takes further pains to
say in response, and this was absolutely in response to
some criticisms that protecting unborn life could have unintended consequences
that would be bad for women, directly in response to
those concerns that were made abortion the way we defined it,

(07:37):
the way our state has defined it in our laws
is to say, is to go on and say, these
things shall, under no circumstances be interpreted to be abortion.
And it lists ectopic pregnancy, It lists the removal of
the remains of a child of an unborn child who
has already died, which means miscarriage and stillbirth. It points

(07:58):
out IVF as not being subject to that to the
definition of abortion. So all of these things are listed
very clearly in our law. And on top of that,
our state DHHS has released guidance for doctors that make
it absolutely clear that these things are not to be
interpreted to include abortion. And furthermore, that because of the

(08:20):
medical emergency law exception that we have in our state laws,
that doctors can and should intervene in situations where it's
necessary to protect a woman's life or due to some
medical situation where it's foreseeable that the woman's health could
deteriorate and lead to an emergency. That was made very

(08:43):
very clear by DHHS guidance, which was produced by the
Chief Medical Officer of the state, and they had a
press conference, The governor and the Chief Medical Officer had
a press conference i think the week before last, where
they really tried to emphasize that point. Because of the
misinformation that's flooding the state in ads and in political

(09:04):
mailers saying that our laws endanger IVF and endanger care
for miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy and so on and so forth.
That is simply not true, and it's attempt by proponents
of four thirty nine to terrify Nebraska voters into supporting
something they would never otherwise support, which is a right

(09:25):
to late term abortion for any reason in the Nebraska Constitution.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Are you concerned that the wording or you got four
thirty four, you got four thirty nine. You see signs
and advertisements all over the places saying vote for this
one against that one. You see both of them. Someone's
going to walk in there and not know what they're doing.
Are you concerned that this is vague?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think that that's always that's always a danger when
it comes to to ballot initiatives, right, people oftentimes are
not necessarily doing the necessary homework, and so they may
be confused when they walk into the voting. That's a
consequence of of you know, people having real lives outside

(10:06):
of politics. So we have tried our very best at
the Catholic Conference to educate our own people and to
educate the broader public about what the ramifications of each
of these would be. And four thirty four is an
incremental pro life protection. And I want to emphasize this
to Scott, is that there's there's been this error that's

(10:29):
been advanced that four thirty four would somehow, you know,
enshrine abortion in the Nebraska Constitution, or that it would
be a step back, and that's not true. That's based
on errors of legal analysis, and before we decided to
support four thirty four, we had legal analysis, independent legal
analysis done by not only attorneys in Nebraska, including former

(10:53):
Nebraska Solicitors General and Attorneys General, but by groups like
Alliance Defending Freedom, which was largely responsible for overturning GROW,
and by the Thomas More Society and many others, and
they all came to the same conclusion. Four thirty four
it does not enshrine abortion in an Nebraska constitution. It
doesn't create a right to abortion. What it does is
simply say, can't we agree at least on this, at

(11:16):
least on this that babies in the second and third
trimester deserve to have the protection of the law, and
people around the country and in Nebraska pulling is shown
consistently that people agree with that, that we can at
least start from there, and that's what four thirty four
would do.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And it could move backwards, it's not going to move
past twelve weeks. Mary and Minor, a pro life attorney,
Associate director of Pro life and Family Policy at the
Nebraska Catholic Conference online at Ncatholic dot org. Thank you
very much for your perspective this morning.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Thank you very much, Scott there.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Was some question as to whether Husker, a softball star
Jordie Ball, was paid for her participation in a pro
life ad. She responded to it on social media. I
tell you what she said next. All so, as is
generally the case with this little radio show we cultivate
each morning from nine to eleven, it's a whole lot
of everything. In twenty minutes from now, we'll talk with
an actress who's from Omaha, who's starring in the movie

(12:12):
out tomorrow featuring Liam Neeson kicking a whole lot of butt,
and that movie is called Absolution. The actress is Omaha's
own Yolanda Rashi, joins us in twenty minutes, and in
an hour and fifteen minutes from now, at ten thirty five,
why is pot of Watamee County getting all this money
that Nebraska is Douglas County should get no offense to
our friends and counsel bluffs. But we want that money

(12:35):
and it has nothing to do with casinos. We'll explain
coming up at ten thirty five this morning.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten keyfab.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And welcome to all of the listeners today who weren't
able to catch yesterday's broadcast on this radio station. Perhaps
you missed the new song by the Dan Osborne for
Senate campaign just aired a few minutes ago. I've got
a whole new wave of emails going. Is what a Joe?
What is that dan Osborne? He's the working man. Sean

(13:05):
Mullins was the guy who sang that song Lullaby, where
so much of it is spoken in low gravelly tones
before you I remember it, Yeah, then you get to
the chorus, every Thing's gonna be all right. That song,
great song.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I just like it.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
He talks like this in the song out here, Everybody's
got a plan, kind of like Nashville with a tan
Sean Mullins. I don't know if that's thank you. I
don't know if that's him on that song for Dan Osborne. Though.
Here's something else that has caught a lot of people's attention.

(13:46):
It is an advertisement featuring six Nebraska athletes, all women,
and the first voice you hear is Papillions the pride
of Papellion softball phenom Jordan ball Rasca.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
It's time to get off the bench.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Out of state activists are pushing a radical amendment Initiative
four to thirty nine.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
It destroys protections for women and children.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Four thirty nine outlaws parental notification for miners.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
It makes women vulnerable to pressure and coercion.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
And four thirty nine when fours taxpayer funding of abortions.
These extreme activists, they're lying about Nebraska's laws, and they're
lying about women's healthcare in our state. So here are
the facts.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
Initiative four to thirty four protects women and children.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Four thirty nine puts them at risk.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
Four thirty four enables doctors to do their jobs.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Four to thirty nine puts women's care in the hands
of non physicians. Four to thirty four defends women from abuse, sex, trafficking,
and coercion.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Four to thirty nine leaves women vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Get in the game, Get in the game, Get in
the game, Get in the game. Vote four initiative four
to thirty four and no on four to thirty nine.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
That's four four and no on nine. No on nine,
No on nine. That's four to four and no on nine.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The most prominent voices you hear there are volleyballs and
out Rebecca Alec and of course softball pheno'm Jordi Ball,
who on social media posted that video, said this was
too important for me to remain silent on If Initiative
four to thirty nine has passed, Nebraska women will be
at risk. That's why I voted four four thirty four
and against four thirty nine. Keep our women and children

(15:19):
safe heart emoji. Now there was some question like were
these guys paid for this or like implying you don't
really think this right, but you're just gonna take money
from the Ricketts family. They probably paid you for this. Well.
Jordi Ball also yesterday went back on social media and
she said, imagine people seeing a commercial done with six

(15:41):
young women supporting a pro life movement and immediately jumping
to the conclusion that we were paid to take part. Nope,
none of us received a penny. We just aren't afraid
to take a stand and protect life. From the Twitter
x feed of Jordi Ball, I went on there to

(16:01):
see first of all, to follow her on Twitter. She
was also at our event last year with Riley Gaines
and spoke there. Very impressive young woman, not just as
a softball player but from a moral fortitude standpoint, and
also to see if the haters were just tearing her apart.
On there, I scrolled and scrolled, didn't see a single one,

(16:22):
which tells me her social media feeds are very well manicured.
If you catch my drift. If someone goes on there
and says you did it, gone blocked out? Who's next?

Speaker 9 (16:33):
Hey wait, I can do that.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, she's just mowed their social media feeds, just mowing
down haters like she mows down batters. It's amazing, all right.
Up next, speaking of mowing people down, Liam Neeson's got
a new movie out where someone has wronged him or
his family and he's out to kick butt. It's called Absolution.
His co star is from Omaha. Elanda Ross joins us

(16:55):
next Fox News Update. Also in just a.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Moment, Scott voice.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
It is a pleasure to welcome out of the program
an actress from Omaha who's in a new movie. On
Halloween or any other day, there's nothing scarier than wronging
Liam Neeson or his family. He's not the dad anymore,
with a special set of skills. This time he's Grandpa.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
Four, not walking away.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
How you kill him being dad? He's just stupid. Liam
Neeson and Yolanda Ross starring in Absolution, and she of
the Hey you killed him fame In that trailer clip
joins us now on news radio eleven to ten KFA
B Yolanda, welcome back to Omaha. Yay, let's play. Let's

(17:43):
play the Omaha game here. No, where'd you go to
high school?

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Burke?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
When did you graduate?

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh oh, oh my gosh, let's get into that. Yeah,
you and I are about the same vintage. Uh yeah,
you were at Burke when the Bulldogs were a real
sports powerhouse. I don't know if you've seen how things
are going there at Burke these days, but one of
my children is a Burke Bulldog, so I have got

(18:13):
nothing but love for Harry A. Burke.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, you're right. I feel like school's overall there's like
I don't know, there's just way, way, way different, way different.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh yeah, well things are a little different than they
were here in the nineties when you were growing up
here working at Valentinos. That was your first job, right, yep?

Speaker 5 (18:35):
I load Valentinos, I load working there, I did, And then.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Kmart and kmart which which Valentinos? Which Kmart?

Speaker 5 (18:47):
The Valos have one like ninetieth Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, that'd be uh right off six eighty and Maple yep, yep, yeah,
that's gone Kmart. Kmart's gone, oh yeah, but Liam Neeson
is back. Tell me about absolution.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Absolution. You know, Liam's a thug woman. My character is
you know, she's all over the place. He's a woman
with no filter.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
These two people meet and you know, they go on
a ride. I mean, his character, you know, finds out
he has a health he has a health scare that
is is gonna go. It's gonna take him in a
different direction. And he wants to make He wants to
take care of some things in his life, make some changes,
some positive changes in his life. Before you know, things

(19:39):
get worse for him health health wise. My character, you know,
as they start seeing each other, wants to help, wants
to help him, and I feel like her nurturing him
kind of settles her a little bit. So I feel
like in the film overall, you have a lot of
broken people who want to mend relationships, make things better

(20:04):
in their lives, like a positive changes.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
What was he what was he like to work with?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Oh my gosh, Liam's great. It's funny because I actually
knew him a long time ago, but hadn't seen him
in like, you know, a decade or so, or actually
more than that, and so getting the part, I was like,
oh my gosh, it's opposite Liam. This this would be
interesting because he didn't know me as an actor. Uh,

(20:34):
you know, I sang and you know the other things.
Before I was in fashion business. But now I'm opposite
in him. And it was just really he was very welcoming,
very easy to work with. Uh. It was just, you know,
it was easy and he was open to all kinds

(20:54):
of things. So you know, we tried things, we worked
on things, and I love their chemistry. You know, those
two the two characters.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Absolutionists in theaters tomorrow. Eulanda Ross co starred the film
with us now on news radio eleven ten kfa B.
Where'd you go trick or treating growing up here in Omaha?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Uh? Just around the neighborhood. We weren't going anywhere crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, what what neighborhood? Would that be?

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Good question? Let me see Ramble Ridge.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay. Were you always trying to get over to Willie
Theason's house because he was handing out giant chocolate bars?
That was always the thing in the eighties.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Hilarious, hilarious. Nope, parents for not letting that happen.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, no, no, what are people in New York City
or Los Angeles, Hollywood say when you tell him you're from.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Nebraska, Oh there are black people there?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Not anymore?

Speaker 5 (21:44):
You left one number one anywhere you go, Oh there's
black people there, yeah, me and my family, Yes, only one.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, And then we actually it balanced out. You left,
and then Randy J. Goodwin came back here and he
wants he wants you to get back to Omaha and
shoot something with him here. He says, you're good people,
very talented and just cool.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Randy's my dude. Please, I would love to love to.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, I'll let him know that next time I visit him.
He got in some trouble with the law. He's in jail,
but you know he's still decent guy. I'm kidding Randy J. Goodwin. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Yeah, someone wronged his family, went into a
pool hall and beat the crap out of him. But
you know that's just how Randy do.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
So.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I noticed recently you got a little political on your
social media where a few days before election day, and
I hope I'm not wrong here in your persuasion, but
how are we going to get Trump reelected? Am I right?

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
You recently posted some selfies with Tony Vargus. What do
you think makes Tony Vargas the right pick for Nebraska's
district too?

Speaker 5 (22:58):
You know what, I think it's interesting being coming from
outside of the city because I feel sometimes with our
city we can kind of just go along with things.
And I think, you know, somebody coming from outside coming
into the city and spending time in the city, being
a part of the city, it's like he can help

(23:21):
us grow, you know, not to get super political, but
it's just like there's a lot of money in Omaha.
There's a lot of money in Nebraska, and people by
their way into things a lot of times in Nebraska,
and I feel, you know, they're not looking out for everybody,
and I feel like Tony is the guy to help

(23:41):
everybody move up upwards.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, Tony's good guy. He's run a good campaign and
I don't wish him any ill will on Tuesday. I'd
say the same thing about Don Bacon. Very interesting race.
But Yolanda, anytime you get back here to Omaha, you're
always welcome to join us here in the studio. I
hope you can come back some time and hang out
with us. Thank you very much. For the time today.
I look forward to seeing you in Absolution in theaters

(24:05):
this weekend, and we miss you on the shy Ah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Thank you, Scott, welcome back. We've missed you hearing the
sound of our voice. Happy October on.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
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Or did it? Ain't of them act like little kids
and still go out and trick or treat.

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Thank you so much, Lucy.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
You and I both grew up in Omaha. We're we
are worldly people, or telling you if not worldly, we're
at least westerly, right, I mean, I Awa to midwestern
des Moines isn't like you know, Bangkok. It's essentially right
down the road. How is it? I've gone my entire
life not knowing that in and around Des Moines, in

(29:16):
the Des Moines, the Greater Des Moines land area, they've
never let their kids trick or treat on Halloween since
nineteen thirty eight. Children in Des Moines.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
I wondered why all of those kids were running around
in costumes on June thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
No, it's a it's it's Begger's Night and o nights
every night. I think it's see That's what I was
saying here, like, how do you get a off calling
it Begger's Night? You know? What are you going to
be for Beggar's Night? Same thing I was last year? Hobo?
This time I'm going to be a sexy hobo. That's

(29:58):
basically dressing up like a hobo, except you look like luster. Yeah, gloves, right,
So they do Begger's Night, and it's usually the night
before Halloween, but this year because the weather, I mean
this weather last night, the same stuff that blew through
here in the afternoon. Well, we had some in the
morning and then afternoon, the late afternoon severe thunderstorm warnings,

(30:22):
dangerous hail. There were tornado watches around Des Moines that
they were worried about. So they moved Beggar's Night to
the night of October thirty. First, they're going to let
the kids go trick or treating on Halloween, and they've
done this for almost one hundred years, a tradition that

(30:44):
arose in nineteen thirty eight. That's the year after police
fielded more than five hundred calls about Halloween vandalism, including
preteens and teenagers soaping windows.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Oh no, the cops cleaned my windows.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Back in nineteen Back in nineteen thirty eight, it was like,
how dare you? Yeah. Meanwhile, let's take a look at
the recent headlines here. In twenty twenty four, police are
looking here in Omaha for a guy who went into
the area forty first in Pinkney Streets and fired fourteen
shots just before eleven o'clock about a week and a

(31:23):
half ago, just went into the neighborhood, just started firing
shots off there around the homes. Fourteen shots. And the
weird thing is is apparently he was shooting at houses.
No one called the cops with any property damage concerns.
They're just like, I got a bullet hole in the house.
That's fine, I could patch it. So that happened. Police

(31:45):
are looking for this individual. Police, as you just heard
in the KFABY update, someone before, I guess, just after
midnight last night went to the bleachers and a building
there NP Dodge Park just north of downtown and set
fire to or tried to set fire to the bleachers

(32:07):
in the building. What better way to set fire to
things than when it's been raining all day. Didn't work.
They arrested someone. Don't know anything about that individual. And
here's a seventeen year old in Lincoln just got arrested
accused of groping multiple women on a bike trail between
September thirtieth and October twenty ninth. Eight counts of third
degree sexual assault. So that's not just a sampling of

(32:30):
twenty twenty four headlines. That's just today. These are just
the headlines this morning. But in nineteen thirty eight teenagers
were soaping windows.

Speaker 9 (32:40):
I want to know if moving it by one day
made any difference with crime in those last.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hundred years, That's what I was wondering.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
I can't imagine it did.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
So you moved the trigger treating one night earlier, and
apparently there were all these n'ar dwells like ah nuts.
We wanted to go out there. We had all this soap.
Tommy got the z I got the Irish spring, we
got Billy over there with the dove, We got all
the soaps. We were ready to go out there and
soaps the windows. But they said we can't do it

(33:09):
on the thirty third. I don't want to do it
on the thirtieth. Come on, I don't know why. Suddenly
you turn into welcome back cotter up your nose with
a soapy hose. Soapy hose, by the way, are performing
tonight at nevermind? So they they said, all right, that's it.

(33:30):
You can trick or treat and do Beggars Night the
night before Halloween. But now they're gonna let the kids
go trigg or treating on Halloween. If you is going
to your rope, If you live in Des Moines, board
up your windows, take cover. Now there's gonna be soap everywhere.

(33:53):
It's gonna be soft soap, hard soap, lotion, soap, various.

Speaker 9 (33:59):
Champ Who's bath and body soap?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Bath and body soaps. They're gonna show reruns of the
old TV show Soap. You've never seen so much soap
swinging it around. Board up your windows. If you're in
Des Moines, no one will be safe. They're letting kids
out on Halloween night.

Speaker 9 (34:20):
See that, gangs walking down the street with their soap
on a rope.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Swinging, swinging it like like Vikings swinging a mace. Yeah,
oh my gosh, Helen, is that what I think it is?
It's soap on a rope. That dope got soap on
a rope. Nope, we're going inside. I'm gonna call the pope,

(34:46):
so and so what do you say. You weren't allowed
to say trick or treat. They were supposed to sing
songs or recite poetry. This this is stuff that you
hear like happened in the fifteen hundred. It's in Vulcanvania.
Or something like that. This is, by the way, there's
your eighties movie reference for this segment of the radio

(35:06):
program Vulcanvania. Anything on that one. No, that is the
name of the town where Dan Aykroyd played a five
thousand year old judge Chevy Chase and Demi Moore got
stranded there in the movie Nothing but Trouble.

Speaker 9 (35:19):
It's the craziest, weirdest movie. I ever saw it. I
saw it recently within the last year.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh, it's so bad. I love it.

Speaker 9 (35:27):
It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
My favorite line from Nothing but Trouble maskonk I love.
I just love that movie. It's so stupid. So yeah,
this is something you hear coming from a place like
Vulcanvania in the fifteen hundreds. I know these kids will
not be out here saying trick or treat, smell my feet,
give me something good to eat. They will stay. Actually,

(35:48):
actually that's true.

Speaker 9 (35:48):
That counts.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
You gotta recite poetry, ding dong, Well, Hi, who are you.
I'm Emily Dickinson, and I know why the cage birds sings.
And you're like, you know what, I don't need to
hear it. Here, take some candy, get out right, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
I don't like Dickenson. Well, throw wasn't.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
A poet so much as the storyteller.

Speaker 9 (36:12):
What you said stories? Oh you said songs. Yeah, here's
something I don't want teenager singing to me. And now
some right right, I don't know what kind of words
he'll be using.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
It's the monster mash. I can tell these kids I
went for the next going through puberty. Who you gonna
call ghostbusters?

Speaker 9 (36:34):
Yeah, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm here to read some poetry with gay overtones. And
now Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass and you know what,
that's fine, just take the candy and go. Not because
of the anti lgbto and everythink it's just so boring,
so bad. So yeah, kids had to sing songs and
recite poetry and stuff. And and now, thanks to Beggar's

(37:00):
being eradicated last night by the threat of tornadoes on
October the thirtieth, they're gonna let the kids go trick
or treating. And I think I speak for decent people everywhere,
including around the Moines. Just let the kids trick or
treat on Halloween. Now here's the thing I wonder if

(37:21):
I'd moved to Des Moines. I moved my family there.
I'm not gonna know that this is how it's done.
I'm going to send my kids out trick or treating
on Halloween because you know, this is America and that's
what you can do.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
Before you'd kind of get a clue when there were
little children knocking on your door the night before Halloween.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, that would get me out.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
You with no candy because you didn't know.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'd be like, are you all dressed as catfish? It's
not Halloween? Why are you catfishing me? Don't do this.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Catfish?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah. I don't know if catfish is the right phrase here,
but I feel like the wool being pulled over my eyes.
You all dressed like sheep pulling wool. So you've got
you got kids coming by there the night before Halloween,
and you're like, crud, I forgot to get candy because
it's not Halloween. Beggars.

Speaker 9 (38:14):
I know where I'm going next October thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
How did the homeless people the advocates feel about something
you call Beggar's Night. I wonder if the homeless people
are like, this is the night I go door to
door and I try and get stuff Oh, I don't
have any candy. You want a beer? Yeah, that's exactly
what I want. Oh, beggars night. So that this is
so stupid? How have I never heard this before in

(38:39):
my life? About des Moines right down the road. And
I tell you, if not for Emory Songer invading our
radio station, I don't know that. I and the weather yesterday,
I don't know that I ever would have known this.
Emory's from des Moines. I don't know that I ever
would have known this. This is crazy town. Email here
from Sam says that to treaters in Des Moines will

(39:01):
tell you a joke instead of saying trigg or treat.
I imagine the jokes from nineteen thirty nine are probably
a little different than the jokes in twenty twenty four.
I mean you can open.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Yeah, back then you could joke right yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Perhaps you could experience this tonight now in Des Moines.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I don't know if you guys know this, but there's
literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of
the ocean right now.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Scott Fordies News Radio eleven ten k FAD.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
That was four sound effects in one bit on the fly.
I tell you what I sadly doesn't get any better
than that time. Thank you welcoming onto the program. The
Sheriff of Pottawatamee County, Andy Brown, joins us here on
news radio eleven ten kfab Sheriff, Good morning.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Good morning, stop.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Thanks. Is Halloween a problem in Pottawatamee County like apparently
it has been for one hundred years in Des Moines,
where they had to move trigger treating from Halloween to
Beggar's Knight because of rowdy teenagers.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
Not generally a Halloween's usually pretty quiet in our county.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Okay, good well, we'll hopefully be able to continue that
here tonight. What I wanted to have you on the
program though, to discuss is what happened in Douglas County
and other cities and counties across the country. In twenty
twenty one, Douglas County, along with others, ended their contracts
with Immigration Customs Enforcement ICE. These were contracts or contacts

(40:42):
to pardon me, contracts to detain criminal illegal immigrants. In
Potawatamee County, it was decided not to end that contract
with ICE. Why not?

Speaker 6 (40:55):
Well, I believe that somebody. You have to step up
and house these illegal aliens, and I want to believe that.
You know, we have the capability of doing that. Also,
it gives a tax break to our taxpayers here because
we also are able to secure federal funding because we
have a large contract with the US Marshals and ICE

(41:18):
to house prisoners, and it gives the citizens a tax break.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Explain how that works. You arrest someone and then what happens.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
So I mean if we if like our deputies are
Council of Police officers or state patrol would arrest somebody,
they would just bring them into our facility and we
hold them, and then of course ICE would put a
detainer on them. The majority of our inmates are housed
are US Marshals and ICE agents bringing illegals into our
facility from other areas because we're the regional housing facility

(41:50):
for them and we're the closest people to get them
to federal court in the Oma metro area.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
So, you arrest someone, you find their immigration status in
this country to be sketchy at best, and you contact ICE,
and what is that conversation?

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Like, usually our booking officers or classification officers will contact
ICE just letting them know that we have somebody either
under a John Doe or a social Security number or
name that we can't find in the system. Then ICE
will come put a detain around them. Why they verify
their identity.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Now see I've mentioned this a few times here in
the last few weeks that Douglas County used to be
able to do what you're doing in Pottawatamee County and
no longer does that. And someone said, well, that's because
ICE takes their sweet time in getting to you, and
you can only hold someone for so long, and if
I do, ICE doesn't get there, then you've got to
release the person. Has that been your experience in working

(42:47):
with ICE.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
No, it has not. They're usually pretty prompt on getting
detainers put on people. I mean we'll hold them for
you know, a day or two to get that taken
care of, but usually they're done with an.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Hour's okay, So glad to hear that. So you got
someone ICE comes out and then what you They say, Yeah,
we've got concerns about this individual as well. Maybe they're
on some sort of watch list or they've potentially committed crimes.
But ICE doesn't exactly have a facility to detain them
at least not anywhere around here. So they pay Potawatamee

(43:23):
County to keep these individuals in the local correctional facilities.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Correct, Yeah, we have a contract with the federal government,
you know, mainly ICE and US Marshals that we will
hold certain amount of prisoners for them. Why they find
either they go through federal court or they are deported
and we hold them here.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
And how much does Potawatamie County get from our federal
government to have this contract with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement?

Speaker 6 (43:52):
So our contract is confidential, but I can tell you
that it's millions of dollars a year. I mean, we're
not talking ten million, but it's in that range where
we get x amount of dollars per day per inmate,
and we usually hold approximately one hundred inmates for them
every every day.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
So you're any current day, you could have about one
hundred potential criminal illegal aliens and custody in Potawatamee County.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
That's correct. Yeah, our jail holds three hundred and three
inmates that we I mean, we want to guarantee them,
you know, under fifty bet around fifty bets, but we
usually hold more than that because they don't have any
place to take them, and we will take whatever they
have for us.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
In other words, you're you're detaining more than your contract states,
you're getting paid more on top of that because other areas,
perhaps Douglas County, Nebraska, doesn't do this anymore. So how
is it that if someone's arrested here in Douglas County
and the same concerns about immigration status and criminal behavior
are there, what de Ice call you and tell Douglas

(44:57):
County take them over to see Sheriff Brown and pot
of water.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
I'm not exactly sure how that extradition works at Douglas
County is the ones that pick them up. But I mean,
of course the US marshalls have an interstate compact where
they can transport across the river without having proper extraditions.
So when it comes to, you know, one of Sheriff
Hansen's deputies arrest ice, I would assume that they would
contact Ice and they transport them over here for them.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So you detain for other communities, but you probably don't
know exactly where everyone is coming for, but it's coming from.
But it sounds like you're at about double what you're
currently contracted for. So if is that reflected in lower
taxes for the community, do you say?

Speaker 6 (45:43):
I would hope so, because of course, you know, the
money goes to our Board of Supervisors and they're the
ones that you know or the fiscal agents on that,
and I would assume that they, you know, use that
money for lower property Texas because I know for many, many,
many years they've uh not raised the levee and if anything,
they've lowered it. So I feel like our property taxes
and probably some of the county employee salaries are paid

(46:07):
by federal dollars.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Do you have a guess on how much Douglas County
could make if we entered back into a contract with ICE.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
I guess it just depends on what your board attractions
would like to do or how many beds they would
open up to them. But like I said, we're we're
usually holding you know, ninety two hundred meters a day,
and we're you know, into the millions, So I would
assume if they would take on more than that, probably
tens of millions dollars, that would be a relief for

(46:37):
your taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
We're talking here with Potawatamee County Sheriff Andy Brown on
news radio eleven ten kfab who needs to make the
decision on all this? I mean, this isn't something that you,
as sheriff of Pottawatamie County decided. Because people are probably thinking, well,
why doesn't Sheriff Hanson here and Douglas County just do this?
That's that's not how this works. Who needs to make
that decision?

Speaker 6 (46:59):
Well, in Iowa on ninety nine, sheriffs that are in
Iowa are in control of the jail, and we can
say if we want better limits and there or not.
Of course we do it because I feel like it's
a fifically responsible thing to do for our taxpayers to
get a bit of a relief for their property taxes.
But when it comes to Nebraska, there are a few

(47:20):
agencies out there that are controlled by a Board of
Corrections and bard of supervisors, and the sheriffs don't have
control of the jail. So with me being one of them,
I do it because of the tax break. But when
it comes to Sheriff Hansen, I assume that he would
have probably go to the Board of Corrections and say
that this needs to be done for a tax break.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I've read this letter on the air a few times
here dated September twenty second, twenty twenty one, and it
comes from Michael Myers, not the Halloween character, appropriately enough,
but Michael Myers, Director of Corrections for Douglas County, and
it says this letter serves as written notice of Douglas
County's intent to turn dominate our agreement with ICE. We've

(48:02):
determined that continuing this agreement is no longer in the
best interests of the Department of Corrections or Douglas County
on our all terms the agreement for a period one
hundred and twenty days from today's day, per Article nine
of our Agreement on tact. Me with any concerns you
have regarding this matter, respectfully, Michael Myers, Director of Corrections.
This came in September of twenty twenty one. Interestingly enough,

(48:22):
throughout the summer there of twenty twenty one, a lot
of different communities made the same decision. This was in
the first year of the Biden Harris administration. It's caused
some people, myself included, to suggest that there was pressure
put on communities to end detentions, to end these contacts

(48:42):
contracts with Ice. Was there pressure put on you to
end these detentions.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
No, there's urban contacted by anybody. What we need to
suspend our contract with the with ICE? So that has
not happened here.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Any idea why in twenty twenty one communities like Douglas County,
Nebraska all suddenly decided to end these contracts with ICE.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Honestly, I would have no idea why that would be.
I mean, there is a little bit of red tape,
don't get me wrong when it comes to housing federal inmates,
because there are regular inspections and sometimes there aren't jump
through when it comes to you know, things you have
to start tracting in your jail in order them to
keep the contract going. I'm not sure if Douglas County

(49:28):
had that issue where they might have had too many
violations and they thought maybe it was an uphill battle
to try to get those incompliance. That's the only thing
I can think of.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You've got your own worries here in pot of Watammee County,
But when you look at Douglas County, do you think
it's a fair assessment that they've been labeled a sanctuary county?

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Yeah, I mean I would say that, especially if you're
you know, a fear border of corrections that is not
wanting to you know, house criminal aliens. I don't know
why they wouldn't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
This is something for the Douglas County Board Border Commissioners
to take up. Potawatamee County Sheriff Andy Brown, I'll let
you get back to your responsibilities on your side of
the river here. Happy Halloween. I hope everything stays safe
there in Council Bluffs and across your county tonight. Thank
you very much for the time for us this morning
here on eleven ten kfab really cool scene at Yankee

(50:22):
Stadium last night, even if you're a Yankees fan watching
your team lose to the Dodgers in the World Series.
But in Game four of this series, a Yankees fan
tried to, like two guys grabbed the arm and the
glove of Mooky Betts of the Dodgers, trying to get
a pop fly out of his glove. Those guys got
ejected and sold. You'll get arrested if you try and

(50:42):
come back here. So last night those seats were given
to a kid who's been battling cancer this year and
his family. Nice job of the Yankees. They didn't win,
but it was still a really great scene. Clay and
Buck our next.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven, News Radio eleven ten
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