November 5, 2024 • 30 mins
We talk about what might happen tonight, what should happen tonight, and how those with TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) might cope either way with Brandon Straka of the #WalkAway movement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgiez, the executive director of Common Cause Michigan, said
a reminder to America, election Day is not results day.
I don't understand this year if other states well, Like
I said four years ago, it was until Saturday when
Joe Biden was officially declared the winner of the twenty
(00:23):
twenty election. Remember what happened in twenty sixteen, I do.
We were here together and Chris Baker was in here
that night. That was the night that Jane kleb came
in and cursed on the air about all you Republicans
are bat shy, nola crazy. That was a fun night.
(00:45):
That was a fun night.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was a fun night.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it culminated with we're waiting here for the potential
concession speech from Hillary Clinton, and it never came. Her
supporters were waiting. I think she was in New York.
So she had some big, fancy ballroom hotel in New
York City, and supporters had gathered throughout the afternoon, had
(01:08):
got bigger and bigger throughout the evening, and then that
night everyone was there and it looked like as all
the major media outlets were calling the twenty sixteen election
in favor of Donald Trump. We were all waiting what's
Hillary Clinton going to say about this? And it turns
out nothing. Boy, I'd love to read that book. What
(01:34):
was that conversation like back there and some in some
hotel suite, Madame Secretary, None of the major media outlets
have called the election in your favor. They've all they
got it for Trump. Your supporters are waiting out there
and the media is watching. And if you could, we
(01:57):
have a speech here. Who wrote a speech about me losing?
Who thought I was going to lose? Well, we have
all all of our bases are covered. We have a
speech over here. In the event that it was a
you know, absolute title wave of Hillary support. We have
a speech in case it was a tie. We have
a speech in case Donald Trump said, you know what,
(02:21):
I love Hillary Clinton and I voted for You know,
we have all these different Someone wrote a speech as
a contingency plan in case he lost. If you want
to go read the speech, everyone's waiting. I'm not reading
the speech, tearing the speech up like Nancy Pelosi running
out of there, Please, Madam Secretary. It's going to look
like sour grapes if you don't go out there and
give all your supporters are waiting. This would be a
(02:44):
great time to try and unify the country. Unify the country,
the country. They didn't vote for me, they can all
go straight to hell. You know, she's running out of there,
packing up all her pantsuits and her chairman Mao outfits
and running out of there with someone. Get Bill out
of the next room over with whoever he's in there with,
(03:04):
and let's go. Bill, we're leaving. Hey, just a couple minutes.
I'm almost done. Come on, Bill, let's go. All right, fine,
hang on. I would love to know what that was like,
because she didn't give a concession a concession speech that night.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, she had a four point lead going into the election.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, it must have been someone before I hear before.
I'd love to hear what that's that conversation was like.
I'd love to hear the conversation that led to the conversation,
meaning the conversation that went on down the hall as
to you tell her, I'm not gonna tell her. You
tell her, you tell her is time to come out
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and give the speech admitting that she lost this election.
I'm not telling her. Let's get let's get Bob, Hey, Bob,
I'm not telling her, you know, everyone's just running for
if people are scattering out in the parking lot, and
what a night that would have been to been a
(04:03):
part of that. But we knew in twenty sixteen the
Trump had won even if we didn't have the concession speech.
And in twenty twenty one of those guys conceded and
then took back the concession, right, I forget who conceded.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But then they're like, hang on, that sounds vaguely familiar,
but I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So they say, it's look, it's election day, it's not
results day. Remember it wasn't all that long ago in
our country's history that we wouldn't inaugurate the president until
March twentieth, because it took that long to count all
the votes, certify the results, get everything all set up
from I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Dealing with the pony Express anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I also, and I've said this. I think I said
this four years ago and probably four years before that,
probably about the most dangerous thing that happen happens in
our nation. I mean, think about this. Let's say Trump wins.
Some of you are like, Okay, that sounds good. Let's
say that, all right, So let's say, Trump wins tonight,
(05:12):
who's the president for the next few months? Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, Joe Biden, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Why do we let the person have just got fired,
the administration that just got fired. Why do we let
them still run the country until midday on January twentieth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's okay, everybody's settled down because they're not.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
A good point. Whoever's running the country for this administration,
Why in the world do we let that? I mean,
no one would do this. No one would come to
me and say, all right, Scott, the people here, your
co workers have decided that you need to be fired.
This probably should have happened years ago. So anyway, you're fired.
(05:57):
Your last day is today? No, no, no, January twentieth. Like, wait,
I get to basically do whatever I want for the
next two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I just try not to screw it up too bad. Okay,
you think the show's off the rails now, I'd barely
even show up some days. When's the next night's golf day?
I'm not even coming in. How do you not have
that mindset? Like you've been fired. Your last day's January twentieth. Well,
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I'm not coming in on Fridays. You know, like, I'm not, hey,
should we do this unpopular political thing? The hell do
I care? The people told me it was time for
me to go, so yeah, do it make it hurt?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Power in money there gives you two months, Yeah, to
secure more power and more money when you are out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There is no reason in twenty twenty four, we can't
tonight say and the next president is so and so,
and they are being sworn in right now. They when
when we've lost a press and we need to have
a leader, they don't wait two and a half months
to swear in. Lyndon Baines Johnson LBJ was sworn in
that day that that moment. There's no reason why this
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can't be. Like the president Trump can't move in tomorrow
if he wins. Gomall just have to move her stuff over. Biden.
I'm not leaving still a president, Joe, You've never been
the president. Oh, come on, I'm being serious right now.
Come on. Trump's last MAGA rally started around midnight and
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ended at two o'clock in the morning in Grand Rapids.
Here are the last two minutes of Trump's final MAGA
rally on a campaign trail. These rallies stretch back nine years.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It was the hard working patriots like you who built
this country, and tomorrow it is the hard working patriots
meaning today like you, who are going to save our country.
After all we've been through, and we've been through a
lot together, we've gone through these rallies. Almost everybody is here.
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I have people that have been to more than three
hundred rallies. They're here tonight. They were at the one
this morning, and the one tonight. They actually miss two
of them. I can't even believe it, but these are
incredible people and incredible patriots. But we stand on the
verge of the four greatest years in American history. With
your help, we will restore America's promise that we will
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take back the nation that we love. We love this nation.
We are one people, one family, and one glorious nation
under God. We will never give in. We will never
give up, we will never back down, and we will
never ever surrender. Together, we will fight, fight, fight, and
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we will win, win win. November fifth, today will be
the most important day in the history of our country.
And together we will make America powerful again. We will
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make America wealthy again. We will make America healthy again.
Bobby Kennedy Junior. We will make America strong again. We
will make America proud again, we will make America safe again,
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and we will make America great again. I love you,
I love you all. God bless you, God bless you Michigan.
God bless the United States of America. Thank you, everybody,
Thank you, great, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And then the political ad plays there on the video.
But they didn't play a Vargas ad at the end
of that rally. But that was he said something like
nine hundred plus rallies over the last nine years. And
as I said an hour ago, I have a feeling
that like my grandkids will ask Grandpa, did you ever
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go to one of those Maga rallies?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Depending on how the country looks and twenty five years
from now, let's face it, I'll be long dead by
then the way I live. You kidding me. But let's
say it all works out depending on how the country
looks twenty twenty five years from now. As I said
an hour ago, it might be my grandkids more of
a tone like Grandpa, you didn't go to one of
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those evil, horrible, disgusting new Hitler Trump. I wonder if
they'll even know who Hitler is to them Trump the
name Trump will be what Hitler has been to us
in our lifetimes. It could happen, you know, it could happen.
History is his story. Whoever gets to write that story.
(11:10):
So my grandkids might ask me, did you ever go
to one of those Trump rallies?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I said that an hour ago, but I didn't answer
the question of mine. Now, why about it my fictional grandkids. No,
I'll tell them, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Did you go?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay, I have not been.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Four years ago, right before election day, on the coldest
night of all time anywhere on the planet and probably
anywhere on the planet of Neptune. It was freezing cold
in downtown Omaha at the executive wing of Eppley Airfield,
where we went shivering cold. I was dressed warmly enough
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for it, but I forgot one key thing because I
just I've been working all day and into the night,
and then I went down there and I had on,
you know, plenty of things to keep me warm, but
except I had dress shoes and dress socks on my
feet have never recovered. They're just little black stumps, little
black stumps.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh, you got frost bite?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Probably no, I haven't been able to get my socks
off since then. They just froze to my stumpy feet.
And the doctor said, well you can still get around, okay,
you know, just just you know, try and take it easy.
And so I've just been living with this ever since then.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But sounds exactly. It was.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So cold, and I I told the story the morning
after that what it was like to watch Air Force
Win come up, Air Force went, Air Force one come
in and then pull right up behind where this stage
and been erected there in the parking lot or really
the tarmac of the executive part of Bepley Airfield, and
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then the Trump to come out there. They had a
little motorcade go from the plane that was four hundred
yards away up to where Trump then got out and
came up there and gave a rousing speech, noting that
it was cold. He didn't make it last two hours.
He took pity on people there, and that's when he
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and Bacon were getting along. So it is Bacon Bacon,
We like Bacon. Got to get Bacon in there. Is
all that kind of stuff. But what people, what the
media and people who can't stand Donald Trump have failed
to understand about these Trump rallies is. Yeah, there have
been a lot of these rallies. Nine hundred plus zero teleprompters,
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and over all of these rallies, especially the ones that
happened in the middle of the night, when he'd already
done I think he'd done three or four yesterday alone,
and now he's giving this long, passionate, all fired up
speech at two o'clock in the morning. So of course,
him Trump being Trump, of course, at some of these rallies,
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he's gonna say something ridiculous. As I noted an hour ago,
he said, I'm a herschel Walker. This is the thing
in Georgia, herschel Walker. I'm gonna put him in charge
of a national defense like that. That's probably not a
great idea, but you know, he's gonna say all kinds
of crazy things. Some guy at one of these rallies
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a few days ago, when Trump was saying, Kamala says
she worked at McDonald's, some guy yelled something that sounded
like she was working on a corner or something like that,
and Trump just smiled and moved on and said, you know,
they're gonna blame me for saying the stuff I didn't
say that you know who knows if he even knows
what the guy said.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But whatever, I.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Mean, you have all these different rallies. He's speaking off
the cuff. He doesn't care what he says. He's just
speaking from the heart and sometimes less than half a brain.
But the MAGA rallies really aren't about some of the
free wheeling stuff that he said. It's about the last
two minutes of the last MAGA rally you just heard
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a moment ago, and it's about the connection with the audience.
That's what it's always been about. These people who had
seen good candidates, whether it's at the local level, state, congressional,
presidential level, seeing good people come and go all saying
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we're going to fight for you, and then they really don't,
not always, not really, so many of them kind of
shrink back in horror and go, well, hang on, sorry,
I know I said something that offended someone on my
political opposite side. Let me apologize and link clarify, and well,
you want to do this the right way and all
the rest of this stuff. And Trump came out and
just didn't give a rip. He's like, you know what,
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you guys have been called racist, domestic terrorists, homophobes, sexists.
You've been labeled all these different things, and you don't
have anyone fighting back. You for years have been saying
things like, look, I don't you know, President Obama seems
like a decent enough guy. I don't know why my
health insurance premiums and deductibles have doubled or tripled in
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some instances. WHOA why are you being racist right now?
Like I'm not being racist criticizing what has happened to
healthcare in our country? Eh, would you say that if
he were a white president? Like that has nothing to
do with it, you know, And people are like, I'm sorry,
I didn't mean to put back in my place, and
all this people stopped fighting back, and then Trump came
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and fought back with both barrels. Then he unloaded those barrels,
started grabbing more barrels, fought back with those philosophically speaking,
and that's what people loved, That connection to each other,
to everyone else at that rally, to the United States,
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to our flag, to our anthem, to these values that
we stand for, to our constitution, And what the media
and all these Trumpeters have gotten wrong for nine years is, oh,
there's a call to personality with that guy, Yes, some
of it. As I said yesterday, this election has really
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come down to you know, you're either casting a vote
for Trump or you hate Trump and you're casting a
vote against Trump. It certainly goes deeper than that for
the people who are casting to vote for Trump. It's
all those things I just mentioned, and I'm curious. I
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hope I'm still on the radio to share with you. Hey,
remember back in twenty twenty four when I said someday
my grandkid would ask me if I ever went to
a Trump rally. I can't wait to tell you that
story of how all that looks. Maybe Baron Trump will
be in office. I don't know what the nation looks like.
I just hope we're here talking about it. And we
now welcome on and back to the program. One of
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our favorite guests on the show over the years. He
is someone who suffered from Trump derangement syndrome and then
got over it. Started the hashtag walk away movement, as
in walk away from the Democratic Party. He's Brandon Strock
and he's joining us here on eleven ten kfa B.
Good morning, Sunshine, Good morning Scott.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
How's going good?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
For those who aren't familiar with your story. How did
you get from a TDS sufferer to someone who is
in this position now where you've spoken at MAGA rallies.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
It's true. Yeah, the only medication I took was the truth.
That's how I overcame my illness. No, basically, you know,
I voked for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, and I
will say I'm gladly voted for Trump in twenty twenty,
but there was quite a transition in between that four
year cycle, and basically when Trump got elected in twenty sixteen,
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for me, it was extremely jarring, turned my life upside down.
I was I mean, I was literally like crying, freaking out,
totally totally upset, and I started asking myself, how is
it possible that the media that I trusted got this
election so wrong? Because you know, CNN, MSNBC was saying
that he had like a three percent chance of winning,
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she was going to win in the landslide, and they
also have been telling us for eighteen months that he
was the second coming of Hitler, threat to democracy, racist, bigot,
et cetera. So I went on kind of a long
journey of research to try to figure out number one,
why would anyone vote for somebody as awful as the
media as Donald the media said that Donald Trump was.
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But secondly, how did the media get it so wrong?
And there were a couple of very specific instances, you know,
that we could get into if you want, But I mean,
it doesn't really matter, because in the end, it's all
the same. Everything that the media is telling us is
a mass manipulation to design to to exploit and control
our emotions, our feelings, the way that we think, so
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that they can control the way that we vote. I
came to realized that pretty much everything the media was
telling me about Donald Trump was not true, and about
his supporters, and this manipulation of the narrative about him
being a racist and a bigot and all of these things.
If you look at the full and proper context of
most of the incidents that they try to cite to
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prove to you that Donald Trump is all of these
terrible things time and time again, you'll see that they've
taken the moment completely out of context, to spun their
own narrative behind it and made you believe some SoundBite
that if you watched it in full and proper context,
you would see that's not what happened. At all, and
so I started to see really clearly Donald Trump was
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not my enemy. The media that I had been trusting
my entire life is my enemy. And that's when I
decided to walk away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Here here is a headline yesterday in the Atlantic, Trump's
followers are living in a dark fantasy. Sub headline, MAGA
adherents deny and dismiss what they're a part of, but
they believe Trump's lies, will support him until the end.
That's the media saying that. So when you see people
like you were eight years ago, voters, especially young people,
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who believe all that they've digested over the years about
Trump and his followers, it's easier for you to see
why they feel that way. How would you recommend that
they maybe start their own process if indeed Trump wins
to night, especially even if Trump doesn't win tonight, his
followers aren't going away. This is half the country that
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people are going to have to live with. So what
would you recommend to them about how they might begin
their own journey to maybe understand what this MAGA thing
is all about.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, I mean, first and foremost, I think you need
to look at at the whole picture. Rationally, I mean, so,
if your belief system and your philosophy is that you're
basically fighting Hitler, and you're fighting this rise of fascism
in America, then I think you need to ask yourself
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why are so many people going along with it? And
why are the numbers growing not dwindling. You know, Donald
Trump got many, many, many more voters, millions more voters
in twenty twenty than he did in twenty sixteen, And
no matter how this election turns out, I'm quite confident
he'll get millions more voters today than he will get
then he got in twenty twenty. So I think a
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rational person has to ask themselves if the media narrative
about Donald Trump and his followers is true, why are
more and more people in this country, including black and
Hispanic and gay and every type of minority of Americans
getting behind this guy? Why is this happening? And I
think once you can start to say something obviously isn't
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right here, then I say go back and start looking
at all of these moments the media is telling you,
and research them and watch them in proper content. Because
here's the thing, Scott, you know, it's you. I'm not
trying to let myself off the hook here. But you know,
it's one thing to go back to twenty sixteen and
look at the you know, being manipulated back then, but
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at this point it has gotten blatantly stupid. I mean,
if you actually think that Donald Trump said that if
that if he doesn't win, it's going to be a
blood bath, and then that means that, you know, he
and his followers are just going to start massacring people
in this country. And but there are people who literally
believe this. I mean, it's the lies that they're telling
at this point are so extreme and just blatantly idiotic
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and stupid. So it's like, just take a minute and
actually research the context of what you're being told, because
you're being lied to about everything.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, if he loses, they'll be a blood bath. If
he wins, he's going to use the military to find
those who didn't vote for him and lock them up.
That's what we're led to believe.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We're talking with Brandon Strock of the walk Away, the
hashtag walk Away movement. The last night, the President did
maybe his final MAGA rally in campaign history. At two
o'clock in the morning, he summed up in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
How many of these have you been to? He's done
more than nine hundred of them. How many have you
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been to?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Man, I bet I've been to at least fifteen.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
For those who've never been to a Trump rally, I
describe my thoughts about it. I've only been to one,
but I played the last couple of minutes of his
final rally in the middle of the night last night,
and I kind of did my own dissertation on what
these rallies are all about and what the feeling is there,
the vibe. What are your thoughts on them?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, let's start by saying, you know, back when I
was a Hillary supporter, I remember how the media was
portrayed Trump rallies, you know, basically saying that these are
places where you weren't safe if you were a minority, black, Hispanic, LGBT,
that they were basically like clan giant clan rallies. And
I mean I really believe that based off of the
little clips that they would show and the way that
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they would falsely portray some of the rhetoric that was
taking place at the rallies. And then you know, I
started to see that I was being lied to and
then I eventually came over to the Trump train. And
when I came over to the Trump train, then I
started attending some of these rallies, and I actually spoke
at his rally in Cincinnati several years back. And all
I can tell you is it's like a massive love
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fest of every type of person. It's every type of American.
They're old, young, fat, thin, black, white, brown, everything in between.
And it's people who just care about our country and
care about each other, care about making America great. And
I mean, it's really thousands and thousands of people coming together,
I think in patriotism and love of country and love
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of each other.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Brandon Stock with us here on news radio eleven ten
kfab You responded to President Obama on Twitter last night,
who said, if you're still on the fence about voting
in this election, think about what really matters, about the
values we were taught, the kind of country we want
to be, and how this is a moment when your
vote really does count. And Obama said your vote could
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determine the fate of our republic, the world that our
children and grandchildren will Inherit inherent and this is something
that abortion is one of the biggest things on the
ballot this year, whether it's actually on the ballot like
in Nebraska, or just figuratively on the ballot like in
several states. Here, people are looking at the economy, they're
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looking at the border, they're looking at abortion, They're looking
at you know, Trump. Maybe they like him, maybe they
don't like him. Here, what is it that you want
people to be taken in their hearts and minds as
they go vote today?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, well I just posted on x as well just
minutes before this interview a man who was being interviewed
who said that, you know, he went in and voted
for Kamala today because he has three daughters and it's
important to him that they have the right to abortion,
you know. And I'm thinking to myself, well, that's you know,
the biggest issue for this man is that his future
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grandchildren be able to be aborted. That's great, but it's like, look,
I'm not an anti abortion person, but I will say,
you know, there are people in this country who are
really suffering. You know. There are people who literally are
skipping meals because they cannot afford to eat two or
three times a day, and people who can't afford to
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buy gas. People who are working multiple jobs just to
try to make ends meet, and they're still not making
ends meet. You look at your life today, it's very simple.
Is your life better today than it was five years ago?
I think if you're being honest with yourself, every single
person would say it certainly is not mine. Is not mine,
is not compared to what it was five years ago.
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I don't think anyone else is either. We know that
when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris took office, they immediately
began to undo every part policy that Trump had instituted
that made life better. I think for the American people,
I think Trump has real plans for trying to write
the course, write the ship that has gone off course,
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and so I think that people really need to think
about what is important with a stake and how we
can get back to the country that we had that
was thriving five years ago. It is not going to
happen under Kamala Harris, but it is going to happen
after Donald Under Donald Trump, He's done before and he
can do it again. And I hope that's the decision
that people will make.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
How many people have joined the hashtag walk away movement
in the last eight years.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
In your estimation, well, we know for a fact that
on our socials we have about six hundred and twenty
five thousand people who have joined the movement just there,
and we have tens of thousands of videos and written
testimonials from people who have shared their stories.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
It's really hard to estimate, you know, for every one
person who makes a video, how many people does that
represent who are afraid to make a video, or too
shy to make a video, or you know, are afraid
they might lose their job that they make a video.
But I mean, we look around now and it's plain
to see millions of people have walked away from the
Democratic Party. And I will say, look, I'm going to
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take a moment here and give myself at least a
little bit of a pat on the back, because when
you look at it at the Trump campaign going in,
you know, these last three four or five months, the
central focus of the Trump campaign really has been walking
away from the Democratic Party as he's built this allyship
with Elon Musk, Tulsea Gabbard, Rfk Junior. I mean, the
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coalition surrounding Trump right now, it has the common thread
of leaving the Democrats, and so this has become, I think,
in my opinion, one of the most important movements in
the country right now, and it's been massive. I think
this year more than any other, we've seen such a
ma the influx of people sharing their stories about why
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they're walking away from the Democrat Party. And you know,
no matter what happens today, our work is not done.
We continue and we continue. But I'm really really hoping
for a victory today because I know my team and
I have been working our butts off for six and
a half years and I really want to see those
results today.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No matter what happens, You're always welcome on this program.
I love talking to you brand, and next time you're
in Omaha, make sure it come back to the studio
and see.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Us Scott
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Scott By mornings nine to eleven Our News Radio eleven
ten KFAB
Scott Vorgiez, the executive director of Common Cause Michigan, said
a reminder to America, election Day is not results day.
I don't understand this year if other states well, Like
I said four years ago, it was until Saturday when
Joe Biden was officially declared the winner of the twenty
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twenty election. Remember what happened in twenty sixteen, I do.
We were here together and Chris Baker was in here
that night. That was the night that Jane kleb came
in and cursed on the air about all you Republicans
are bat shy, nola crazy. That was a fun night.
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That was a fun night.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was a fun night.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it culminated with we're waiting here for the potential
concession speech from Hillary Clinton, and it never came. Her
supporters were waiting. I think she was in New York.
So she had some big, fancy ballroom hotel in New
York City, and supporters had gathered throughout the afternoon, had
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got bigger and bigger throughout the evening, and then that
night everyone was there and it looked like as all
the major media outlets were calling the twenty sixteen election
in favor of Donald Trump. We were all waiting what's
Hillary Clinton going to say about this? And it turns
out nothing. Boy, I'd love to read that book. What
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was that conversation like back there and some in some
hotel suite, Madame Secretary, None of the major media outlets
have called the election in your favor. They've all they
got it for Trump. Your supporters are waiting out there
and the media is watching. And if you could, we
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have a speech here. Who wrote a speech about me losing?
Who thought I was going to lose? Well, we have
all all of our bases are covered. We have a
speech over here. In the event that it was a
you know, absolute title wave of Hillary support. We have
a speech in case it was a tie. We have
a speech in case Donald Trump said, you know what,
(02:21):
I love Hillary Clinton and I voted for You know,
we have all these different Someone wrote a speech as
a contingency plan in case he lost. If you want
to go read the speech, everyone's waiting. I'm not reading
the speech, tearing the speech up like Nancy Pelosi running
out of there, Please, Madam Secretary. It's going to look
like sour grapes if you don't go out there and
give all your supporters are waiting. This would be a
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great time to try and unify the country. Unify the country,
the country. They didn't vote for me, they can all
go straight to hell. You know, she's running out of there,
packing up all her pantsuits and her chairman Mao outfits
and running out of there with someone. Get Bill out
of the next room over with whoever he's in there with,
(03:04):
and let's go. Bill, we're leaving. Hey, just a couple minutes.
I'm almost done. Come on, Bill, let's go. All right, fine,
hang on. I would love to know what that was like,
because she didn't give a concession a concession speech that night.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, she had a four point lead going into the election.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, it must have been someone before I hear before.
I'd love to hear what that's that conversation was like.
I'd love to hear the conversation that led to the conversation,
meaning the conversation that went on down the hall as
to you tell her, I'm not gonna tell her. You
tell her, you tell her is time to come out
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and give the speech admitting that she lost this election.
I'm not telling her. Let's get let's get Bob, Hey, Bob,
I'm not telling her, you know, everyone's just running for
if people are scattering out in the parking lot, and
what a night that would have been to been a
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part of that. But we knew in twenty sixteen the
Trump had won even if we didn't have the concession speech.
And in twenty twenty one of those guys conceded and
then took back the concession, right, I forget who conceded.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But then they're like, hang on, that sounds vaguely familiar,
but I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So they say, it's look, it's election day, it's not
results day. Remember it wasn't all that long ago in
our country's history that we wouldn't inaugurate the president until
March twentieth, because it took that long to count all
the votes, certify the results, get everything all set up
from I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Dealing with the pony Express anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I also, and I've said this. I think I said
this four years ago and probably four years before that,
probably about the most dangerous thing that happen happens in
our nation. I mean, think about this. Let's say Trump wins.
Some of you are like, Okay, that sounds good. Let's
say that, all right, So let's say, Trump wins tonight,
(05:12):
who's the president for the next few months? Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, Joe Biden, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Why do we let the person have just got fired,
the administration that just got fired. Why do we let
them still run the country until midday on January twentieth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's okay, everybody's settled down because they're not.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
A good point. Whoever's running the country for this administration,
Why in the world do we let that? I mean,
no one would do this. No one would come to
me and say, all right, Scott, the people here, your
co workers have decided that you need to be fired.
This probably should have happened years ago. So anyway, you're fired.
(05:57):
Your last day is today? No, no, no, January twentieth. Like, wait,
I get to basically do whatever I want for the
next two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I just try not to screw it up too bad. Okay,
you think the show's off the rails now, I'd barely
even show up some days. When's the next night's golf day?
I'm not even coming in. How do you not have
that mindset? Like you've been fired. Your last day's January twentieth. Well,
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I'm not coming in on Fridays. You know, like, I'm not, hey,
should we do this unpopular political thing? The hell do
I care? The people told me it was time for
me to go, so yeah, do it make it hurt?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Power in money there gives you two months, Yeah, to
secure more power and more money when you are out.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There is no reason in twenty twenty four, we can't
tonight say and the next president is so and so,
and they are being sworn in right now. They when
when we've lost a press and we need to have
a leader, they don't wait two and a half months
to swear in. Lyndon Baines Johnson LBJ was sworn in
that day that that moment. There's no reason why this
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can't be. Like the president Trump can't move in tomorrow
if he wins. Gomall just have to move her stuff over. Biden.
I'm not leaving still a president, Joe, You've never been
the president. Oh, come on, I'm being serious right now.
Come on. Trump's last MAGA rally started around midnight and
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ended at two o'clock in the morning in Grand Rapids.
Here are the last two minutes of Trump's final MAGA
rally on a campaign trail. These rallies stretch back nine years.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It was the hard working patriots like you who built
this country, and tomorrow it is the hard working patriots
meaning today like you, who are going to save our country.
After all we've been through, and we've been through a
lot together, we've gone through these rallies. Almost everybody is here.
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I have people that have been to more than three
hundred rallies. They're here tonight. They were at the one
this morning, and the one tonight. They actually miss two
of them. I can't even believe it, but these are
incredible people and incredible patriots. But we stand on the
verge of the four greatest years in American history. With
your help, we will restore America's promise that we will
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take back the nation that we love. We love this nation.
We are one people, one family, and one glorious nation
under God. We will never give in. We will never
give up, we will never back down, and we will
never ever surrender. Together, we will fight, fight, fight, and
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we will win, win win. November fifth, today will be
the most important day in the history of our country.
And together we will make America powerful again. We will
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make America wealthy again. We will make America healthy again.
Bobby Kennedy Junior. We will make America strong again. We
will make America proud again, we will make America safe again,
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and we will make America great again. I love you,
I love you all. God bless you, God bless you Michigan.
God bless the United States of America. Thank you, everybody,
Thank you, great, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And then the political ad plays there on the video.
But they didn't play a Vargas ad at the end
of that rally. But that was he said something like
nine hundred plus rallies over the last nine years. And
as I said an hour ago, I have a feeling
that like my grandkids will ask Grandpa, did you ever
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go to one of those Maga rallies?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Depending on how the country looks and twenty five years
from now, let's face it, I'll be long dead by
then the way I live. You kidding me. But let's
say it all works out depending on how the country
looks twenty twenty five years from now. As I said
an hour ago, it might be my grandkids more of
a tone like Grandpa, you didn't go to one of
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those evil, horrible, disgusting new Hitler Trump. I wonder if
they'll even know who Hitler is to them Trump the
name Trump will be what Hitler has been to us
in our lifetimes. It could happen, you know, it could happen.
History is his story. Whoever gets to write that story.
(11:10):
So my grandkids might ask me, did you ever go
to one of those Trump rallies?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I said that an hour ago, but I didn't answer
the question of mine. Now, why about it my fictional grandkids. No,
I'll tell them, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Did you go?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Okay, I have not been.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Four years ago, right before election day, on the coldest
night of all time anywhere on the planet and probably
anywhere on the planet of Neptune. It was freezing cold
in downtown Omaha at the executive wing of Eppley Airfield,
where we went shivering cold. I was dressed warmly enough
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for it, but I forgot one key thing because I
just I've been working all day and into the night,
and then I went down there and I had on,
you know, plenty of things to keep me warm, but
except I had dress shoes and dress socks on my
feet have never recovered. They're just little black stumps, little
black stumps.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh, you got frost bite?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Probably no, I haven't been able to get my socks
off since then. They just froze to my stumpy feet.
And the doctor said, well you can still get around, okay,
you know, just just you know, try and take it easy.
And so I've just been living with this ever since then.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But sounds exactly. It was.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So cold, and I I told the story the morning
after that what it was like to watch Air Force
Win come up, Air Force went, Air Force one come
in and then pull right up behind where this stage
and been erected there in the parking lot or really
the tarmac of the executive part of Bepley Airfield, and
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then the Trump to come out there. They had a
little motorcade go from the plane that was four hundred
yards away up to where Trump then got out and
came up there and gave a rousing speech, noting that
it was cold. He didn't make it last two hours.
He took pity on people there, and that's when he
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and Bacon were getting along. So it is Bacon Bacon,
We like Bacon. Got to get Bacon in there. Is
all that kind of stuff. But what people, what the
media and people who can't stand Donald Trump have failed
to understand about these Trump rallies is. Yeah, there have
been a lot of these rallies. Nine hundred plus zero teleprompters,
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and over all of these rallies, especially the ones that
happened in the middle of the night, when he'd already
done I think he'd done three or four yesterday alone,
and now he's giving this long, passionate, all fired up
speech at two o'clock in the morning. So of course,
him Trump being Trump, of course, at some of these rallies,
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he's gonna say something ridiculous. As I noted an hour ago,
he said, I'm a herschel Walker. This is the thing
in Georgia, herschel Walker. I'm gonna put him in charge
of a national defense like that. That's probably not a
great idea, but you know, he's gonna say all kinds
of crazy things. Some guy at one of these rallies
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a few days ago, when Trump was saying, Kamala says
she worked at McDonald's, some guy yelled something that sounded
like she was working on a corner or something like that,
and Trump just smiled and moved on and said, you know,
they're gonna blame me for saying the stuff I didn't
say that you know who knows if he even knows
what the guy said.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But whatever, I.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Mean, you have all these different rallies. He's speaking off
the cuff. He doesn't care what he says. He's just
speaking from the heart and sometimes less than half a brain.
But the MAGA rallies really aren't about some of the
free wheeling stuff that he said. It's about the last
two minutes of the last MAGA rally you just heard
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a moment ago, and it's about the connection with the audience.
That's what it's always been about. These people who had
seen good candidates, whether it's at the local level, state, congressional,
presidential level, seeing good people come and go all saying
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we're going to fight for you, and then they really don't,
not always, not really, so many of them kind of
shrink back in horror and go, well, hang on, sorry,
I know I said something that offended someone on my
political opposite side. Let me apologize and link clarify, and well,
you want to do this the right way and all
the rest of this stuff. And Trump came out and
just didn't give a rip. He's like, you know what,
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you guys have been called racist, domestic terrorists, homophobes, sexists.
You've been labeled all these different things, and you don't
have anyone fighting back. You for years have been saying
things like, look, I don't you know, President Obama seems
like a decent enough guy. I don't know why my
health insurance premiums and deductibles have doubled or tripled in
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some instances. WHOA why are you being racist right now?
Like I'm not being racist criticizing what has happened to
healthcare in our country? Eh, would you say that if
he were a white president? Like that has nothing to
do with it, you know, And people are like, I'm sorry,
I didn't mean to put back in my place, and
all this people stopped fighting back, and then Trump came
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and fought back with both barrels. Then he unloaded those barrels,
started grabbing more barrels, fought back with those philosophically speaking,
and that's what people loved, That connection to each other,
to everyone else at that rally, to the United States,
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to our flag, to our anthem, to these values that
we stand for, to our constitution, And what the media
and all these Trumpeters have gotten wrong for nine years is, oh,
there's a call to personality with that guy, Yes, some
of it. As I said yesterday, this election has really
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come down to you know, you're either casting a vote
for Trump or you hate Trump and you're casting a
vote against Trump. It certainly goes deeper than that for
the people who are casting to vote for Trump. It's
all those things I just mentioned, and I'm curious. I
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hope I'm still on the radio to share with you. Hey,
remember back in twenty twenty four when I said someday
my grandkid would ask me if I ever went to
a Trump rally. I can't wait to tell you that
story of how all that looks. Maybe Baron Trump will
be in office. I don't know what the nation looks like.
I just hope we're here talking about it. And we
now welcome on and back to the program. One of
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our favorite guests on the show over the years. He
is someone who suffered from Trump derangement syndrome and then
got over it. Started the hashtag walk away movement, as
in walk away from the Democratic Party. He's Brandon Strock
and he's joining us here on eleven ten kfa B.
Good morning, Sunshine, Good morning Scott.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
How's going good?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
For those who aren't familiar with your story. How did
you get from a TDS sufferer to someone who is
in this position now where you've spoken at MAGA rallies.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
It's true. Yeah, the only medication I took was the truth.
That's how I overcame my illness. No, basically, you know,
I voked for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, and I
will say I'm gladly voted for Trump in twenty twenty,
but there was quite a transition in between that four
year cycle, and basically when Trump got elected in twenty sixteen,
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for me, it was extremely jarring, turned my life upside down.
I was I mean, I was literally like crying, freaking out,
totally totally upset, and I started asking myself, how is
it possible that the media that I trusted got this
election so wrong? Because you know, CNN, MSNBC was saying
that he had like a three percent chance of winning,
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she was going to win in the landslide, and they
also have been telling us for eighteen months that he
was the second coming of Hitler, threat to democracy, racist, bigot,
et cetera. So I went on kind of a long
journey of research to try to figure out number one,
why would anyone vote for somebody as awful as the
media as Donald the media said that Donald Trump was.
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But secondly, how did the media get it so wrong?
And there were a couple of very specific instances, you know,
that we could get into if you want, But I mean,
it doesn't really matter, because in the end, it's all
the same. Everything that the media is telling us is
a mass manipulation to design to to exploit and control
our emotions, our feelings, the way that we think, so
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that they can control the way that we vote. I
came to realized that pretty much everything the media was
telling me about Donald Trump was not true, and about
his supporters, and this manipulation of the narrative about him
being a racist and a bigot and all of these things.
If you look at the full and proper context of
most of the incidents that they try to cite to
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prove to you that Donald Trump is all of these
terrible things time and time again, you'll see that they've
taken the moment completely out of context, to spun their
own narrative behind it and made you believe some SoundBite
that if you watched it in full and proper context,
you would see that's not what happened. At all, and
so I started to see really clearly Donald Trump was
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not my enemy. The media that I had been trusting
my entire life is my enemy. And that's when I
decided to walk away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Here here is a headline yesterday in the Atlantic, Trump's
followers are living in a dark fantasy. Sub headline, MAGA
adherents deny and dismiss what they're a part of, but
they believe Trump's lies, will support him until the end.
That's the media saying that. So when you see people
like you were eight years ago, voters, especially young people,
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who believe all that they've digested over the years about
Trump and his followers, it's easier for you to see
why they feel that way. How would you recommend that
they maybe start their own process if indeed Trump wins
to night, especially even if Trump doesn't win tonight, his
followers aren't going away. This is half the country that
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people are going to have to live with. So what
would you recommend to them about how they might begin
their own journey to maybe understand what this MAGA thing
is all about.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, I mean, first and foremost, I think you need
to look at at the whole picture. Rationally, I mean, so,
if your belief system and your philosophy is that you're
basically fighting Hitler, and you're fighting this rise of fascism
in America, then I think you need to ask yourself
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why are so many people going along with it? And
why are the numbers growing not dwindling. You know, Donald
Trump got many, many, many more voters, millions more voters
in twenty twenty than he did in twenty sixteen, And
no matter how this election turns out, I'm quite confident
he'll get millions more voters today than he will get
then he got in twenty twenty. So I think a
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rational person has to ask themselves if the media narrative
about Donald Trump and his followers is true, why are
more and more people in this country, including black and
Hispanic and gay and every type of minority of Americans
getting behind this guy? Why is this happening? And I
think once you can start to say something obviously isn't
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right here, then I say go back and start looking
at all of these moments the media is telling you,
and research them and watch them in proper content. Because
here's the thing, Scott, you know, it's you. I'm not
trying to let myself off the hook here. But you know,
it's one thing to go back to twenty sixteen and
look at the you know, being manipulated back then, but
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at this point it has gotten blatantly stupid. I mean,
if you actually think that Donald Trump said that if
that if he doesn't win, it's going to be a
blood bath, and then that means that, you know, he
and his followers are just going to start massacring people
in this country. And but there are people who literally
believe this. I mean, it's the lies that they're telling
at this point are so extreme and just blatantly idiotic
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and stupid. So it's like, just take a minute and
actually research the context of what you're being told, because
you're being lied to about everything.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, if he loses, they'll be a blood bath. If
he wins, he's going to use the military to find
those who didn't vote for him and lock them up.
That's what we're led to believe.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We're talking with Brandon Strock of the walk Away, the
hashtag walk Away movement. The last night, the President did
maybe his final MAGA rally in campaign history. At two
o'clock in the morning, he summed up in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
How many of these have you been to? He's done
more than nine hundred of them. How many have you
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been to?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Man, I bet I've been to at least fifteen.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
For those who've never been to a Trump rally, I
describe my thoughts about it. I've only been to one,
but I played the last couple of minutes of his
final rally in the middle of the night last night,
and I kind of did my own dissertation on what
these rallies are all about and what the feeling is there,
the vibe. What are your thoughts on them?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, let's start by saying, you know, back when I
was a Hillary supporter, I remember how the media was
portrayed Trump rallies, you know, basically saying that these are
places where you weren't safe if you were a minority, black, Hispanic, LGBT,
that they were basically like clan giant clan rallies. And
I mean I really believe that based off of the
little clips that they would show and the way that
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they would falsely portray some of the rhetoric that was
taking place at the rallies. And then you know, I
started to see that I was being lied to and
then I eventually came over to the Trump train. And
when I came over to the Trump train, then I
started attending some of these rallies, and I actually spoke
at his rally in Cincinnati several years back. And all
I can tell you is it's like a massive love
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fest of every type of person. It's every type of American.
They're old, young, fat, thin, black, white, brown, everything in between.
And it's people who just care about our country and
care about each other, care about making America great. And
I mean, it's really thousands and thousands of people coming together,
I think in patriotism and love of country and love
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of each other.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Brandon Stock with us here on news radio eleven ten
kfab You responded to President Obama on Twitter last night,
who said, if you're still on the fence about voting
in this election, think about what really matters, about the
values we were taught, the kind of country we want
to be, and how this is a moment when your
vote really does count. And Obama said your vote could
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determine the fate of our republic, the world that our
children and grandchildren will Inherit inherent and this is something
that abortion is one of the biggest things on the
ballot this year, whether it's actually on the ballot like
in Nebraska, or just figuratively on the ballot like in
several states. Here, people are looking at the economy, they're
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looking at the border, they're looking at abortion, They're looking
at you know, Trump. Maybe they like him, maybe they
don't like him. Here, what is it that you want
people to be taken in their hearts and minds as
they go vote today?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, well I just posted on x as well just
minutes before this interview a man who was being interviewed
who said that, you know, he went in and voted
for Kamala today because he has three daughters and it's
important to him that they have the right to abortion,
you know. And I'm thinking to myself, well, that's you know,
the biggest issue for this man is that his future
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grandchildren be able to be aborted. That's great, but it's like, look,
I'm not an anti abortion person, but I will say,
you know, there are people in this country who are
really suffering. You know. There are people who literally are
skipping meals because they cannot afford to eat two or
three times a day, and people who can't afford to
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buy gas. People who are working multiple jobs just to
try to make ends meet, and they're still not making
ends meet. You look at your life today, it's very simple.
Is your life better today than it was five years ago?
I think if you're being honest with yourself, every single
person would say it certainly is not mine. Is not mine,
is not compared to what it was five years ago.
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I don't think anyone else is either. We know that
when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris took office, they immediately
began to undo every part policy that Trump had instituted
that made life better. I think for the American people,
I think Trump has real plans for trying to write
the course, write the ship that has gone off course,
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and so I think that people really need to think
about what is important with a stake and how we
can get back to the country that we had that
was thriving five years ago. It is not going to
happen under Kamala Harris, but it is going to happen
after Donald Under Donald Trump, He's done before and he
can do it again. And I hope that's the decision
that people will make.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
How many people have joined the hashtag walk away movement
in the last eight years.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
In your estimation, well, we know for a fact that
on our socials we have about six hundred and twenty
five thousand people who have joined the movement just there,
and we have tens of thousands of videos and written
testimonials from people who have shared their stories.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
It's really hard to estimate, you know, for every one
person who makes a video, how many people does that
represent who are afraid to make a video, or too
shy to make a video, or you know, are afraid
they might lose their job that they make a video.
But I mean, we look around now and it's plain
to see millions of people have walked away from the
Democratic Party. And I will say, look, I'm going to
(29:18):
take a moment here and give myself at least a
little bit of a pat on the back, because when
you look at it at the Trump campaign going in,
you know, these last three four or five months, the
central focus of the Trump campaign really has been walking
away from the Democratic Party as he's built this allyship
with Elon Musk, Tulsea Gabbard, Rfk Junior. I mean, the
(29:41):
coalition surrounding Trump right now, it has the common thread
of leaving the Democrats, and so this has become, I think,
in my opinion, one of the most important movements in
the country right now, and it's been massive. I think
this year more than any other, we've seen such a
ma the influx of people sharing their stories about why
(30:02):
they're walking away from the Democrat Party. And you know,
no matter what happens today, our work is not done.
We continue and we continue. But I'm really really hoping
for a victory today because I know my team and
I have been working our butts off for six and
a half years and I really want to see those
results today.
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