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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott VORDIEZ, it just so happens, Lucy, that I have
a number of stories here that are about whether it's
cold cases or just longtime mysteries. We'll start here in Nebraska,
whereas Terry Layhy just told you in the KFAB news update,
(00:21):
the suspect in a murder case of a seventeen year
old teenager named Mary kay Hess in nineteen sixty nine,
fifty five years ago. The suspect in her murder was
in court in Saunders County yesterday. He's a little older
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than he was fifty five years ago. This guy, his
name is Joseph. He's seventy seven years old. He was
brought in in a wheelchair with an oxygen tank, A
nice try pal. He says he's in remission from lung
cancer and is suffering from type two diabetes as well
as pneumonia and COPD.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Still he just described the average American.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes, well, according by the standards of the average American
until President Biden gives us all taxpayer funded ozempic, he's
actually above average for the average American. So even though
he's sitting there, he can barely breathe, he can't move.
The judge still considers him a flight risk and denied
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him the ability to post bond.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
He ran away once.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But see, that's the thing. Let's look over the timeline
of this really bizarre case. Seventeen years old, and this
was in where in Saunders County? Ask Terry what town
this was in. I thought it was Wahoo. Ohkay, he's
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got it Wahoo, I say Waterloo. It's o Wahoo, Wahoo, Nebraska,
nineteen sixty nine. And this girl was found dead. Her
body was found in a country road just outside o Wahoo.
Investigators looked like she got out of a car and ran.
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Footprints indicated that someone was chasing her, that she'd been
stabbed more than a dozen times. Her family said that
she wouldn't have gotten into a car in the first
place with a stranger. So we imagined she was in
the vehicle of someone she knew, someone local. It's Wahoo, Nebraska,
nineteen sixty nine. Everyone knows everyone. How could someone in
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town do this and people wouldn't know. Well, that's the thing.
They started ruling out suspects back in nineteen sixty nine.
This guy's name was always on the suspect list. They
interviewed him three times in nineteen sixty nine, For whatever reason,
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there was no arrest made. Thirty years later, they find
him again and say, we're still looking at this case.
We want to ask you a few more questions. Okay,
So now it's nineteen ninety nine. They asked him some questions.
No arrest made. Twenty some years after that, it's twenty
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twenty one. Hey, it's us again. We have some questions. Okay,
what else can I do for you? They ask him
more questions in twenty twenty one, no arrest made, until
finally now they've decided. He was arrested last week by
US Marshalls in Oklahoma. A Saunders County grand jury indicted
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him in the murder of the seventeen year old girl
Mary Kay. I don't know if it's heath or hass.
I see it spelled a couple of different ways. Here
the story from WOWT six News. So you're thinking, well,
what do they have now that they didn't have over
the last fifty five years. The only thing that's still
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kind of hanging out there is the DNA technology, which
of course is light years better than it was fifty
five years ago. They exhumed her body. This just a
few months ago. It's thought that they found his DNA
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on her body and that's what led to go find him,
arrest him, bring him up here. But we don't have
those details yet. We're gonna have to wait until the
trial to learn what detectives found in that. That's the
only thing it could be, though. I mean, they're talking
to witnesses. The witnesses are in their mid to late eighties.
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In some instances, one witness is eighty seven years old.
So what's this guy been doing for fifty five years? Well,
from a legal standpoint, some illegal things. In the late sixties,
he was in prison for forgery, and then he escaped prison.
He moved to his mom's place in Wahoo. Not long
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after the murder. In nineteen sixty nine, he violated parole,
spent more time in jail, and he's kind of been
on the radar of investigators for years, as I mentioned.
As I said, they talked to him several times over
the years. Basically, what it comes down to might be
this quote from the Saunders County Attorney, Ted Green tells
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WWT six News First Alert six John Niceley was in
here the other day and he says, we're First Alert
six now okay. First Alert six talked to the Saunders
County Attorney investigator Ted Green, and he said, quote, we've
been able to exclude everybody mentioned as a suspect way
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back when except for this guy. Unquote. Well, I imagine
you have to have something more than that, because you
can't drag him into a trial and go all right,
everyone else has accounted for Did you do it? All right? Yeah? Fine,
I did it. Oh that was easy. You know they
I presume with the exhumation of the body a few
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months ago that they have a little bit more than well,
somebody had to do it, as probably this guy. You
imagine for fifty five years, this guy has been moving
around the country though this story from k e TV
News Watch seven, one of the investigators was quick to say,
we don't know that we consider him on the run.
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After all, he was never charged with anything. So he
lived over here, lived in Ohio, and moved down here
and lived over because he's lived in several different places
over the years, which a lot of people have after
fifty five years, So he's living his life over the
last five plus decades. If he did it, do you ever, like,
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are you ever sitting there eating a baloney sandwich, and
forget that all these years ago you killed a girl?
Does it? Do you ever have has enough time pass
where you think about things that you did when you
were younger and you think, did I really do that?
Or do I just think I did that? After fifty
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five years? Do you? How do you not think about
that constantly? How does the guilt? How do the nightmares?
Unless you're an absolute psychopath, how are you able to
physically live with yourself? Physically and mentally and emotional live
with yourself? If indeed this is the guy, how you
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do that? You've killed before and you'll kill again. How
do you live with yourself?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You can learn? I mean it can still just be
a learned process because you don't have a choice. You
either turn yourself in, which is the better idea, Either
turn yourself in or you find a way to live
with it. And the only way that you can find
a way to live with it is to train yourself
to live with it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You wonder, don't you how many people are just out
there walking around carrying these deep, dark secrets. You ever
see the movie Frailty. That's what we need here. We
need the brothers from that movie to give this guy.
I think it's it's Matthew McConaughey and Bill Paxton, I
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want to say. And they have this supernatural ability where
if they just even brush up against you, they can
see your deepest, darkest thoughts and secrets.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh boy, I would not want that.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, So they brush against you and they turn around
and Matthew McConaughey is like, all right, all right, all right.
I bet you thought no one knew about that, didn't you,
you know? And and that's how they like do this. It's
a it's a it's a pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't think I'm gonna like it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I think if you think back, there is something that
you have said. In my case, it's something that I
said to something to someone as a kid that still
haunts me today. It was just mean and so but
but that is that?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Why is that why you murdered that guy?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, no, I said it was something I.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Said, Oh oh yeah, I know. I'm still dealing with
things that I'm upset that I said on the radio yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's not apples to apples, but it is just kind
of a glimpse of Yeah, you can have regret for
things that you've done for your whole life. And they
can come up every now and then. Sure, but you
just learned to say, well, in a case of I
said something mean, yeah, I can say, okay, well that's
it's in the past. Nobody do.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, but murder, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's a little next level, don't you think next level?
He was twenty two years old, she was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't that whole thing about She wouldn't have gotten
into a car if somebody she didn't know, Well, I don't.
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That's what the family said. Well, think about it. Though
seventeen years old, seventeen years old in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Though everybody was hitchhiking. Come on, it was it was
the summer of love.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I might be putting a little bit more of a
Pollyannic shade on all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And I'm not trying to blame her for.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're right, you know girls and yeah, I know, yeah,
that's anything we talk about after that point is going
to sound like victim shaming or something like that. I'll
tell you this. I'll tell you this. I had seen
the picture of her, you know, black and white photo
of her school picture. She doesn't look like, hey, man, whatever,
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let's go listen to some Janis Joplin and just hang
out and be you know, she doesn't look like, you know,
some flower child with her. How the heck would I know?
But I don't get that vibe even if I did.
That's the last girl you want to kill. She's fun.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, no, no, I am not trying to say that
this has anything to do with her fault. I'm just
saying you got to be careful about who you charge with,
especially cold cases, because if this guy didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, Well, like I said, I've got a lot of
different stories about cold cases, longtime mysteries. I think the
next one, well, the next two or some of the
most famous of all time. And update on both D. B.
Cooper and Amelia Earhart coming up now.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Who do you want here first, Lucy, we talk about
these longtime mysteries. dB Cooper or Amelia Earhart or Amelia Badilia.
What do you want first?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, if it's the Amelia Earhart story that I think
you're gonna do, nah, dB Cooper.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well I'm gonna do the story you just.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm sure it's not the same all over. Then let's
start there. Let's see if it is Amelia.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, now I got to make up a news story.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, I'm sure it's different.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Uh, Amelia Earhart's been found alive. Oh no, see you didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
See that coming, did you didn't see it?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah? She was flying in nineteen thirty seven. She was
flying across the Pacific Ocean and she she crashed onto
this island group off of like New Guinea, and she
survived by eating Joe Biden's uncle. Oh right, Yeah, she's fine.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Now she to be at that age. She eating an
American diam.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Right now, she's meeting President Biden at this hour where
she's apologizing and trying her best to regurgitate the the
remains so they can give what was his name, Uncle,
I don't know, maybe uncle Fred, uncle Frank. Yeah, they
wanted to give him a proper burial. So that's the
Amelia Earhart story.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Come on, what is it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The CEO of an ocean exploration company called Deep Sea Vision.
Is that the one where you go down into a
submersible and go look at the Titanic and then you implode.
That's the sound of the implosion under one. Yeah, I
think this is a different group. The CEO of this group,
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called deep Sea Vision, an ocean exploration company, was convinced
that he had found the plane of Amelia Earhart. And
what happened, Well, after closer inspection, they figured it wasn't
a plane, it was just some rocks.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, maybe it had petrified.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Could be nineteen thirty seven. Amelia was like, I'm gonna
go fly in.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That is a mystery. That's a mystery. I would love
to hear or get somebody to as solve that.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, I mean, it's probably not that mysterious. I think
we have to go with Okham's razor on this one. Right.
It's you know, it's probably that she crashed into the
ocean and her plane's just down there somewhere. This rock
formation is more than sixteen thousand feet deep. It's about
one hundred miles away from the Howland Island in the
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Pacific Ocean. This was her destination on her final flight.
So they figured that she came up short and if
it's not there, than her Lockheed ten e Electra has
got to be someplace close by or in the belly
of a whale. Now, some of the the thoughts on
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Earhart is that she did land and the natives then
just killed her. Like we don't say who let women
fly planes. She's got to be a witch.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But they'd find parts of the plane or something on
the island.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Then they ate the plane.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
They just they ate a lot of things that they
shouldn't have over there. President's uncles, planes, chick pilots. That's
probably this is a very sexist group of natives on
this group, So I think it's it's pretty amazing that
this guy is the CEO of this. He's got to
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be either a smart guy or just a boob with
a lot of money or something in between, like whatever
Elon Musk is. Depending now on your political persuasion anymore,
but you probably have to have a pretty good idea
what you're saying before you come out and go, I
found it. I found Amelia Earhart's plane, right, And they
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look at it and go, is it that there? Yeah,
well it looks like it. It's just some rocks. Sorry
about that.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I will say, I've seen this picture and it's pretty convincing.
It really does look like a plane.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But here's what he says. This guy's name is Tony Romeo,
Is that a real name? Tony Romeo said, it's like
the cruelest formation ever created by nature. He said, quote,
it's almost like somebody did set these rocks out there
in this nice little pattern of her plane just to
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mess with somebody who was looking for her.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Is it too deep?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So it's sixteen thousand feet below sea level? Yeah, it's yeah,
it's down there, so I mean, I don't think he's saying, yeah,
just some kids came along, like, I've got the funniest hoax, billy,
Grab your scuba gear. It's just a couple of two
liter bottles and a snorkel, and I'll do. Here's what
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we're gonna do, and then we have to play some evidence,
Like we'll throw like a part of a wing or
something like that out there. It's a little bit of fuselage. Hey,
what's that? It looks like part of a plane. And
one of those nineteen thirties pilot leather caps that you
wear for flying planes or plane football whatever. I gotta
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protect my head in case I'm tackled or crashing an airplane. Oh,
just put on this leather cap. Is is that out there?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And while you're at it, play some football that way.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And the guy's like, oh my gosh, it's Amelia Airharts plane.
These kids are back there laughing videotape and there's a
TikTok video somewhere. This guy thinks it's a Melia Airharts plane. Yeah,
it's almost like someone did it just to mess with
this guy. Okay, so they still have yet to find
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Amelia Earhart's playing up next, dB Cooper see if this
sounds familiar. A guy came out and said, I found it.
In this case, it's the parachute. I'll explain after a
Fox News update. Next, Scott voices, this is the time
right now. Okay, it's not even a Thirsty Thursday. Emery
(18:23):
Songer weekday afternoons two to six Here on news Radio
eleven ten kfab He and producer Matt Case will raise
a glass of something, usually something different every Thursday as
part of their Thirsty Thursday bit. It's a Thirsty Tuesday.
Lucy Chapman there, I'm Scott Vorhees. I bypassed this at
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the store twice, two different stores this week because I said, no,
it's not Thanksgiving yet, but I will make an exception
because you brought this in as a tasty treat. That is,
are to gum up my mouth like ready mixed concrete
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as soon as I drank this, Lucy, what have you
brought us this morning?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, I didn't know Terry was such a fan. So
that's why your glass is not exactly full, because I
had to split it three ways because I just got
one of the little bottles. It is the annual Anderson
ericson eggnog A any eggnog?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Oh the best, Lucy, I know. We're Are you here tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And that's an unpaid endorsement?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah? Are you here tomorrow? Okay, Well, there's there's no
right or wrong time to say how thankful I am
for you on the team nice here at KFA B.
But mostly you don't let anyone else know I told
you this, but big, very thankful for you. And now
also I got to say, and thankful for Terry Lahy
jumped here into the proceedings.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Well, thankful for all of you folks, and that taste
of that and immediate transport back for me to my childhood.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Why is that, Terry?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No just holiday, just remembering that and the eggnog taste
just one of the many things that takes me right
back to being blessed as a child in south central Omaha. Yeah,
and and the holiday memory, Christmas memories.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
We never had eggnog growing up. We couldn't afford it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
When I think of South Omaha and Christmas memories, I
am transported back to my mom had an uncle who
owned a pickle parlor in South Omaha, and one year
it was like, Hey, bringing the whole family. We're having
a whole family celebration there at this pickle parlor on
Christmas Eve, which was open, and so I'm hanging out
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there with some of my cousins and my sister. The
smell of cigarette smoke was overwhelming, but I didn't really
think much about it because it was the eighties. And
that's that's what I think of when I think of
South Omaha and Christmas wonderful.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I was on bankroft.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I don't know, I don't know. I'll have to check
with the family here, But Terry, did Lucy pour you
a little cup of eggnog as well? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
That's what I usually hold off to Thanksgiving with Selva
had it there going in the newsroom and I'm I'm
ready to.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Go, and does it expire? So November thirtieth, we need
to drink it overall.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, Well, if this toast goes on any longer, we're
not going to get it in. So the last thing
I want to say before we have this is this
is non alcoholic. Correct would never ruin eggnog by putting alcoholics.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
During the day.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'm not a teetotaler. I can drink alcohol, but not
with eggnog. Eggnog is eggnog, and I think it does
just fine on its own. So Terry Lucy, thank you
so much for your contributions to kfab's morning news and
all of our shows here on news Radio eleven ten
kfa B. We could KFAB, we could not get through
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our mornings without you guys setting that table.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So we couldn't do it without you and give.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The opportunity to it would be the easiest one here
to replace.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
And with that, cheers, cheers and our great good neighbors
to the Midwest listeners. As I use a real old
school kfaby.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
After saying that this is a five minute eggnog toast,
no one's listening anymore. This is this is truly just
for me, I know. All right, Cheers, here we go.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That is so good. My husband always tells me, oh,
I see you've bought your Anderson Ericsson court of eggnog
to throw away in a month. I buy it. I
have one little glass, and then it sits there.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's the saddest thing when you're looking at it and
you're like, I've eaten so many rich foods and I'm
looking at this agnog like, I know, I gotta do it.
It's going to expire. But if I do it, I'm
going to regret it, right And then I'm like, I
regret nothing, and I just plow right into it. Eggnog
ever goes to waste at my house, it goes to waste.
(23:03):
I'm pointing at my stomach right now.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know you can freeze it and then pull it
out and make a French toast out of it, delicious
French toast.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It was. I think it was Mickey Thomas of Starship
who regaled us as we asked him to say the
pancakes line, good morning, honey, I made you pancakes for breakfast.
In fact, I think I could probably pull that up.
I think he's the one who went on and on
talking about eggnog pancakes.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I don't recall that ah wrong thing. Yeah, because then
when I met him at the concert. They did the
Memorial Park concert around the Independence Day and I saw
him backstage. This is like an hour before he was
going on. So I said hi. So we talked on
the radio. He's like, hey, pancakes guy, and he got
right back into it. Tell me all about his pancakes.
And I think it was the eggnog pancakes. Here we go,
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Mickey Thomas, let's see here. Good morning, honey, I made
you gluten free egg nog pancakes for breakfast. Yeah, Mickey
Thomas from Starship Jefferson Starship and Jefferson Airplane with the
eggnog pancakes. I'm gonna drink the rest of the second.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
While you're drinking that, I will tell you. Actually, I
won't tell you anything because I've got nothing. I've got.
You really are guzzling that, isn't it kind of thick
to gus?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
No it is, but sip. No, do you need me
to continue?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Since you're probably all I'm fiending now, you know what?
I am Gollum from Lord of the Rings. I seemed
all right for a while, and then I got a
little too close to the ring and suddenly it's like,
where's the rest of the eggnogs?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
We have more?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
We have more?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
No, it's not it is what I split it three ways.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
No, Oh, it was just a little container, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You didn't even get a half pint? Do you come
in here with just barely wet my whistle with eggnog?
That's I take it all back.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's funny. Mean that reaction, what that reaction was so
genuine when you realize that was it. I thought there
was all I had. That was so genuine and a
little disturbing.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Lick out the glass.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Only Scott Morhes can make an entire segment out of eggnog.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, you know what you call what? You know what
you call radio hosts who don't make an entire segment
out of eggnog? Successful Award winners, Well, Steve and Gina
having done a whole segment on eggnog. That's why they
just got recognized as the Country Music Awards.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Congratulations to our sister station Cat one O three. That's amazing,
that's really cool forget them right.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
They're on the FM side of the hall. I already forgotten,
thinking someone's gotta be second place, might as well be them.
My wife just sent me a text at honey, I
think you have a problem. Yeah she knows it's what
was I saying? Oh yeah? D Boperoper, D B. Cooper.
How do we get to this point?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, except for here, you've been waiting fifty sixty years already,
So you know what was another fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Longer than that? No one has been You're right, it
has been fifty years, nineteen seventy four. Wow, I remember
it as though we're only yesterday, having been born in
nineteen seventy six. How do we get to this point?
We talked about the cold case murder in Wahoo or
outside Wahoo and Saunders County, seventeen year old girl. Fifty
(26:43):
five years later, the guy who's thought to be her
murderer is in court. He's seventy seven. He's lived the
last fifty five years of his life, every day going
through his day wondering, am I about to if he
did it? Yeah, they're going to determine all of that stuff.
But if he did it, I mean someone did it.
(27:06):
If that guy's still alive, for fifty five years, Like
every time he's been pulled over for a speeding ticket,
is he thinking, is this the day? Every time he's
walking along the road and he sees a police officer
strolling towards him, Is this the day I get arrested
for killing a girl? Back in nineteen sixty nine, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
OJ in Wahoo about that same time?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
No? No, in nineteen sixty nine, Oj was not in Wahoo.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You don't know was he playing football by then? I?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, he's probably been high school? Right when do he
win the Heisman? Anyway, so we talked about that case,
which led us to the Amelia Earhart discovery of what
it turns out was not her plane, just some rocks.
Well it looked like a plane. And now we got
dB Cooper. This is a guy who he robbed a bank, right, ah, yes,
(28:06):
and then he he had an airplane. I robbed the bank,
ran over and I found got this airplane. He had
this airplane all stashed out there, goes up in the
airplane and then parachutes out of the plane, and then
no one ever found him. They never found the parachute either,
(28:29):
until potentially now an amateur sleuth thinks he has cracked
the case and he believes he has found the parachute.
This guy is a YouTuber name is Dan Grider. He
says he found the modified device matching the one used
in the hijacking on property owned by the family of
this guy in North Carolina. Now, he says, the way
(28:51):
that this parachute is rigged, he said, it's it's literally
one in a billion, is it? How many different ways
can you?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Are you suggesting he's on the entire parachute intact?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, well, yeah, you couldn't leave it out there. Then
you'd have a trailed So you had to He had
to get the parachute, get it all back up together.
And I'm trying to take Didn't you ever see the
Colombo episode with Johnny Cash. No, Johnny Cash did the
same thing. Did I just give it away? If you
think I just gave it away, then you don't know
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how Colombo works.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I have not seen that episode of Columbus, but you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Know how every Colombo works, right, You see how he
did it, and then the rest of the episode is
Colombo trying to figure out So this the mystery is,
how is Colombo gonna get him? Oh? I love Colombo anyway,
this guy, uh this This YouTuber asked the family keyed
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in on on this particular guy and searched his like
shed and found the parachute, and he's like, I have
it all right. This this is weird because for years
people have thought that this so called dB Cooper bank
robber guy was this guy, Richard McCoy. Richard McCoy's name
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has long been linked to dB Cooper because he was
arrested after a nearly identical hijacking months later, and then
while trying to escape from prison in nineteen seventy four,
he was shot and killed. Plus people gave police sketch
artists the description of what this dB Cooper guy looked like,
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and it looks exactly like Richard McCoy, who again tried
to do the same thing months later. So I mean,
this is the guy, right. But see, here's the weird thing.
This YouTuber goes to the family and says, I want
to go through his stuff. They're like, okay, you can
go through a stuff and he goes through there and
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finds a pair issue. No one in fifty years ever
thought to go looking through his junk.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
And this is the guy who was killed trying to escape. Yeah,
that they think is.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay and his and this guy his name's McCoy is
his own kids agree with everyone who says, yeah, it
was probably our dad. They long suspected their father was
the hijacker, but they didn't say anything about it out
of respect for their mother, who only died in twenty twenty.
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They didn't want the mom to have to deal with
knowing that she was married to this famous.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
No, they wanted to keep the money.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
But see, here's the same Here's the thing though, why
would they say nothing out of respect for their mom?
Because if they thought that their dad did that, remember
months later he did the exact same thing, got arrested
and then tried to escape from prison and was shot.
So what exactly were they trying to spare mom from
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They weren't.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
That was a ruse. They wanted to keep the money.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So now they're trying to exhume his body and get
a DNA match with evidence left behind at the original
dB Cooper.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
There's DNA I get I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, they could type it to the family that they
think of it if is the guy, and it wouldn't
be a perfect match, but it would sure give you
a pretty good indication.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
They found the parachute on property owned by the family
of this guy, in a shed like no one in
fifty years thought, Hey, look in that shed and see
if there's any evidence in there. Oh, he'd never put
it in there. There's spiders in there. Like, why this
whole thing seems a little too convenient, doesn't it. Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, and the money was never found.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Though, No, the money was never found.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Way I remember the story.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I would ask these kids, Oh, why didn't you tell him?
Because we didn't want to hurt our mom's feelings. Well,
that's what I said, the mom that already knows she
was married to a guy who robbed a bank, hijacked
a plane, and then was shot and killed trying to
escape from prison. What exactly are we trying to save
her from? Yeah, I think maybe that's the next real
easy case to crack. Did I just intimate that these
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kids are Yeah, they're totally in on it. I don't know. Oh,
speaking of bad kids, Eric and Lyle Menendez, what is
the deal here? Netflix does a show on you and
suddenly we just let you out of prison? Is that
how this is supposed to work? Because that's how this
might work. Details.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Next, Scott goes, where are you going?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I thought dB Cooper robbed a bank and then hijacked
the plane or took off in the plane. Oh no, no,
he just I don't think he robbed anything. He just
hijacked the plane and then jumped out of it.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
But he had he had something with him.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Did he robb from the people on the plane and
then jump out the back of the plane. I don't know.
He hijacked a plane parachuted out of it. Well, then
what crime did he commit because he didn't end up
taking the plane?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I would guess threats of hijacking is probably not
a good idea.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He just like, hey, set me down over there, like
you just want to just bly buy a plane ticket?
All right? Up next, Eric and Lyle Menendez. There's no
mystery attached to this one. They killed their parents and
now coming back all these years later, going well, dad
was abusive. Okay, you know what you do about that?
You go over to the neighbor's house and you go, Hi,
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it's me Eric, my brother Lyle, and my brother Daryl
and my other brother darryl. Our dad's a jerk. And
then they call the cops, and then there's a whole
thing that doesn't involve you murdering your parents. And ever since,
there's been all this stuff in a Netflix series and
all this and people are like, Oh, they shouldn't go
to jail. They shouldn't still be in jail. You know,
(35:05):
they didn't mean to kill their parents. Is this really
how it works? Netflix makes you look like a sympathetic figure,
and then we just let you out of jail because
that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Now, Well, did they ever have a defense or a
reason at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
They said that their dad was abusive.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So they said that at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And then some guy who sang for a Menudo came
out and said, yeah, that guy drugged and attacked me too.
But you can't kill your parents. So many other things
you could do there. But now Governor Gavin Newsom and
some of the other the prosecutor people were taking a
(35:46):
look at this and saying, well, we'll take a new
look and see whether they might be eligible for parole.
Is what they're doing now. How much of it feels
like it's orchestrated by Netflix. So they could have Menendez brothers.
The Bachelor series didn't these guys get married in prison
to women who sent them photos and letters going we
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think you're cute, crazy Lucy. As I mentioned the other day,
I am absolutely not even worried about gaining weight anymore.
That's why I sitting here on the radio swilling eggnog. Oh.
By the way, craziest thing just happened in the last
couple of minutes. We were talking about eggnog. You said
eggnog pancakes. I said, I think it was Mickey Thomas
(36:30):
of Starship Jefferson, Starship Jefferson Airplane, Airplane jeff who came
on here and said he loved eggnog pancakes, right right.
That was an hour ago. Yeah, I just got an
email a few minutes ago said, hey, do you want
to have Mickey Thomas back on the show? Shut up,
he's got a Christmas album.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Did you say no?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
No, it's absolutely Mickey Thomas, friend of the program. We
just conjured Mickey Thomas of Starship.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think that's the first conjure you've ever done.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You know A. Yeah, you know who else I'd like
to have in the show. Who President Biden. I'd love
to talk to President Biden.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think it would be educational.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I bet if we can get him talking for a
few minutes, we can get him to really let loose.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I think so too. My first question would be, who'd
you vote for?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Right? I'd love to have a no holds barred like
you know what. I'm in care anymore conversation with President
Biden Anyway, President Biden, so I said, I have no
problem just getting big, big, big, big, big, big fat.
Because they've got these drugs. Apparently, you take a couple
of shots, all the melt, the weight melts right off,
(37:44):
and it's like putting butter in the microwave. You come
out of the microwave and you're like, look, how skinny
I am? Is all this blubber is hanging off you.
Someone's gonna have to stitch that up. That could be
the next big industry. Always wondering how I'm gonna make
a bazillion dollar stitching people up after the fat melts
off them and they got these folds hanging there.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
What are you stitching folds of fat together?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No, just if you if you weigh you know, a
metric ton, and then you take some of these like
ozebic drugs, and you go down to a Svelt one
sixty five. You got like a bunch of I mean,
it looks like white caps on a lake on a
windy day. It's just cascading folds of fat. Which some
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of the lyrics that weren't in America the beautiful they
rejected those. Someone's gotta, someone's gotta, you know what ironing.
I just iron that stuff. It could be like a
massage treatment. You just come in there and you've got this,
you know, folds of flab just hanging off of you.
(38:58):
You know, say I just iron them back on.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Now, I say you can fix this problem. Just make
sure that you lotion up your whole body when you're thin,
and keep doing it every day for your entire life.
And then when you then end up gaining a little weight,
when you lose it again, your skin is all nice
and soft and it'll bounce right back. That's my theory.
It's my theory.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
And if you need any help applying that lotion to
your body, I will be doing this on a case
by case basis. Just check with me.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You have to submit the picture with you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yes, yeah, some of it. I mean, I'll do it.
There's a price for anybody, guys. Oh yeah, there's a price. Well,
it's not gay to lube a guy up. If it's
for a long term skincare treatment, there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm just helping a guy.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Out, help a guy out.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'll take things that won't be on the podcast for
three hundred Alex, where was that every.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Time I'm focused? Yeah, I'm not focused now as to
go on, I was just.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Thinking about what you're talking about. There is fine, but
I'm probably not gonna do that when I'm drinking nothing
but gravy for the next few years. And then go
all right, this is too much weight I put on.
Time to get the ozempic, which is now taxpayer funded
covered by Medicaid and Medicare under President Biden, per this
(40:27):
new proposal by the outgoing president, and then I can
get the weight just melted off I don't want. But
then the problem is is that all that weight comes off.
I'll be walking around here wearing shorts and someone will say,
nice pants. Are those bell bottoms? I'm like, no, that's
my skin, and I'm gonna have to have someone tidy
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that stuff up.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Aren't you a little bit suspect of a product that
the government wants you especially when it's a drug wants
you to use so much so that they're going to
pay for it. Doesn't that make you a little bit suspect.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I hadn't considered that. I had considered that. Like, based
on this proposal, they say it would cost taxpayers as
much as thirty five billion dollars over the next ten years.
That's based on what ozempic. Ozepic's not the only one.
There's a with gov I think is how you pronounce
it in some others. It's basically all different forms of semiglue, tides,
(41:30):
peptides and so forth, tide pods, all kinds of different things.
That's right, Eat tide pods and you'll lose weight. Is
that true? Is that No, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well you'll be dead, so yeah, it'll don't care.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Hang on, I just got this dispatch from President Trump. Bleach,
Eat bleach and you can lose weight and not get COVID. See,
I'll tell you what greatest president of.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Art in lifetime hashtag never said.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I know. So that's based on what these things cost. Now,
what happened to the cost of public education colleges and
universities when suddenly the federal government took over the student
loan program, did the cost of going to the University
of Nebraska Lincoln go down or did its skyrocket? Oh
(42:15):
wait a second. Now we can encourage people to take
out student loans. Those loans will be backed by the
American taxpayer, and they never run out of money. So
now if we charge too much and someone says I
have to default on my loans, I can't pay back.
We don't lose that money. The government just pays for it.
Guess what college now costs three times more than it
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did about almost twenty years ago. That was due to
the government saying we'll pay that bill. So right now,
some of these drugs, which are not designed to be
weight loss drugs by the way, this was stuff to
help well diabetes, and one of the side effects is
you're going to look great. And people said, I don't
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have diabetes, but I wouldn't mind losing some weight. So
they get the drugs, they lose the weight, they look better,
they feel better, and they're pretty inexpensive. But now that
the government's paying the bill, Now that the taxpayer is
paying the bill, this stuff's gonna probably cost three to
four times more. I mean, heck, that's what I do.
(43:22):
If I'm Johnny ozempic and you're coming to me from
my drug and I'm like, well, let's see how much
you can afford to pay. But now that it's Uncle Sam,
he's got unlimited money, I'd be foolish not to raise
my rates. And that's the taxpayer's paying all of this stuff.
So I'm guessing that if you wanted to lose this weight,
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here's a couple different ways to do it. You can
either go about the long and arduous, time sucking, painstaking
practice of eating less, eating fewer calories, exercising more everything
in moderation. You don't have to walk around and starve
yourself and be hungry all the time. Actually starving yourself
(44:06):
is not helping the process. That actually helps that that
causes the body like panic and keep more weight on
because it thinks, oh no, we're never going to get
food again. We have to start packing weight on. So
you don't want to starve yourself. But there is a
process through diet and exercise and time where you can
lose that weight. But as we all know, and I'm
(44:29):
right there with.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You, hey, nobody got time for dead.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Or you can just go into some clinic and they
give you a couple of shots and you walk out
of there looking like half the man you used to be, which,
by the way, is also the slogan they use at
the transgender surgery clinic. So why wouldn't we all just
do that, I'm telling you, after I spend oh boy,
(44:56):
the next now I've got a new one. It's eggnog gravy.
It's all the sustenance I need. And I'm just gonna
do that.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Egg nog malt.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You could do a gravy, well, there's already eggnog ice cream.
Any of that can be made into I prefer a milkshake.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Okay, then we'll just go with the gravy malt.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, Oh, gravy malt. That's my rap name, yo, yo,
what's up? It's gravy malt, yo. You know, that's kind
of my thing. So I'm gonna, yeah, I'm just gonna
do nothing but gravy malts and eggnog gravy and all
the rest of this stuff. And then I'll just just say,
all right, that's enough time to start over and just
(45:39):
hit reset and go back to my fighting weight of
one seventy five, I mean, and then you.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Isn't this what America has been wanting for the last
one hundred years, seventy.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Years, right? What I don't know is whether RFK junior
or incoming. You know, health doctor, America's healthy doctor is
going to allow any of this to happen. But it's
funny that on his way out the door of President
Biden's like, here's a couple other things that if you
don't follow through on this, it'll be politically unpopular. A
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lot of the stuff is pretty cost effective anyway, so
you don't need it to be covered by Medicare or Medicaid.
But then that does open up a whole new conversation
that you're not supposed to have, right, and that is,
wait a second, if you're covered by Medicaid, that's because
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you are poor. Why are you so fat if you're poor?
But you're not supposed to have that conversation, and so
we won't.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
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Speaker 1 (46:53):
Charles' email says, my wife takes o Zepic for diabetes.
She's experienced issues getting the prescription because the celebrities began
the weight loss thing with the drug. She says that
a zepic makes you feel kind of crummy and not
even wanting to eat for a few days, and in
some cases you get sick, which is I guess helpful
(47:15):
in losing the weight, but it doesn't exactly seem like
the best way of going about it. There will be
many dietitians, doctors, medical professionals who will say, you're not
supposed to take these diabetes drugs to lose weight. You're
going to feel terrible and you'll put the weight right
back on if you don't develop better eating habits. But
(47:37):
as we said a moment.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Ago, hey nobody got time for dead.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
We'll just go yo yoing through our entire lives and
you're just fatten up and then slim down like Oprah.
Here's a guy who did that, twenty six year old
guy in South Korea. You you have to do mandatory
military service in South Korea unless you don't meet the
(48:01):
physical requirements. So this guy said, I don't want to
do mandatory military service, and his friend said, I know
how you can do it. You can get really fat.
And so this guy ate and ate and ate and
ate until he was considered too obese to serve in
a combat role. And then they looked they found some
details about this guy. It's like, wait a second, Like
(48:21):
a year ago, you only weighed this, and now you
weighed that. We think you've been fattening yourself up so
you don't have to do military service. So they convicted
him of trying to dodge the draft, and then they
convicted his friend for suggesting that he get fat to
avoid mandatory military service. That's not fair, the friend said, well,
(48:44):
I didn't know he was actually gonna do it, right, Yeah, sorry,
too bad. So this guy was in case you're wondering
how big was he was five to five and checked
in at two twenty five.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Oh that's pretty good size.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah well yeah it wide, yeah, not tall, yeah, but
five to five In South Korea, I think is how
do I say this without making it sound like I'm
making fun of them or stereotyping them. But they're just
not real tall over there. So five to five he
might be the center on his team and the round
mound of rebound with a BMI of thirty five point eight.
(49:21):
That is obese. But he's like, I didn't have to
do military service. Now he's in jail, speaking of I
wonder when, like President Biden just said, I'm gonna have
Medicare and Medicaid pay for some of these weight loss drugs.
When are we gonna have this be taxpayer funded as well?
Kara kara toe pigmentation. This is a way that you
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go in and do cosmetic surgery on your cornea by
basically your you're tattooing your cornea that which gives your
eye it's color. Lucy is my beautiful brown eyed girl.
I have mold blue eyes, you know. So if you
(50:08):
suddenly go I want blue eyes, you go in there
and they tattoo your eye. They use a laser to
cut these little donut shaped shaped holes into the cornea,
the outer layer of the eye, and then they put
in pigment. Nope, they can change the color of your eye.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
You don't want to be a green eyed lady.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Oh sure it be fun to have a different eye color,
but nope. Look I can't see now.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Right regard about you. See it's people seeing you and going, wow,
green eyed Lucy. That's that's cool. Some people are doing this, though, I.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Don't see people are vain.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I don't think any of this sounds like anything I
want to do. I don't even like it. In a
flu shot, So if you want to do it, I
guess it's out there and as of yet, not taxpayer funded.
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