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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgez a lot of feedback here and talking about
what should be police officers in New York City trying
to catch a murder suspect, a guy who seemingly targeted
the CEO of United Healthcare, and that murder investigation has
(00:21):
spun into some people saying, look, I'm not saying that
the murderer, you know, it was justified, or that the
CEO of the healthcare company had a coming, but you know,
healthcare in this country is so bad, and the way
we do it and the way some people are bankrupted
just trying to take care of a loved one and
all the Look, I get it, some people are in
(00:42):
some horrible situations with their own or a loved one's health.
And if you've I mean really, we're all in one
of two categories. You've either been through it or you're
gonna be through it, I guess you could say, or
you're currently going through it. So we're in just a
few categories. And I don't know why you would go
(01:05):
after this if you're so mad about that, I don't
know why you'd go after the CEO of the healthcare company.
I mean, this is what the laws and restrictions and
government getting involved in healthcare anything from Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, whatever.
Government has zero role in healthcare, and all of this
(01:29):
is just grists for the mill. The senators go up
there and they say, we need to do this, we
need to make this better, and Bernie Sanders comes along
and says, we need universal health care and people shouldn't
have you know, and none of it gets any better
at all. Government should be absolutely out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What you're saying is government should not have any involvement. Now,
the way I understood what I was hearing you say
is that healthcare is the government.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, the government. Government should have zero a role in healthcare.
Why in the world we let government get involved in
healthcare money? Well, I understand why they did it, but
why we let them do it? Because, yeah, because some
people are like, hey, it works good for me, I
want to get this at this age, or you know,
(02:17):
for let's take care of poor people. And all we've
incentivized poverty, and we've incentivized the government getting involved in
health care decisions that make them more money. And the
healthcare companies are like, look, we're not heartless people here.
We're trying to take care of people and provide this
pool of health insurers. But at the same time, we
(02:41):
let's look at this. We at United Healthcare, for example,
and I don't I mean these are I've not heard
this particular healthcare company saying this. I'm just saying this
by virtue of examples. So we here at private health
insurance company, a group health insurance company. The two people
go into the hospital for procedure. In this instance, they've
(03:04):
both been hit by a bus, and one of them
has health insurance and the other one doesn't. The hospital
has to treat both people. Here. The person who has
no health insurance is not going to pay we taxpayers,
because government's involved here the hospital, We've all got to
chip in to pay for all this. Now the other
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person has health insurance, well, we have to pay then
for his hit by a bus recovery surgery, as well
as the individual and all the people in line behind
him legally and illegally in this country who have either
no health insurance or government run health insurance. When you
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have the government helping some of this stuff, they're going
to pay about twenty cents on the dollar for the
recovery and the treatment of this person. So who ends
up footing the bill. The people who are doing it
the right way, those with health insurance, those with jobs,
the businesses that provide their employees nice perks like group
health insurance policies to try and help all this down,
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and all of that gets more expensive because the government
of health insurance is terrible and the people who have
no health insurance are never incentivized to get it because
they're still going to go in there, They're going to
get some level of treatment. They're not going to be
left there to die, and someone else is going to
pay for it. Who has a paying for it? The
same people pay for everything in this country, the people
who are doing it the right way, the people who
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are going and working, the people who are punching time cards,
the people who who always end up taking the old pipe.
We just end up paying for everything. So why someone
would say, hey, we got to go murder the CEO
of the health insurance company. I'm not saying anyone should
(04:55):
murder anybody, but that iire is misplaced. Now that rant
is over, I think unless anyone wants to pull my
court again, we'll move on to not saying that every
government action is bad or every person in politics is misguided.
(05:20):
Why yesterday, Lucy, I would have thought based on your
comments over the years where you said, you know, I
would never fly in this country. If I'm going to
go to Dublin, I'm just going to drive. I'm like Dublin, Ohio,
No Ireland. I'll just drive there. I will swim the
rest of the way. Yeah, no, no, you just you
don't like taking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The I'm not a fan of flying. Yeah, I won't
fly if I don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, be that as it may. Senator Josh Holly, Republican
from Missouri, agrees with you. Yesterday they had a Senate
panel that was grilling the executives of various airline and
Josh Holly got the microphone.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So, mister Schroder, let's start with you. Do you charge
a bounty? Do you pay employees bounties on carry on bags?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And when he's talking to people, he's talking with people
who are the CEOs of these airlines. The first one,
mister Schroeder, is from Frontier Airlines. You'll hear other people
with other airlines as well. Do you charge a bounty
to pay your employees to track down those who have
oversized bags.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
To identify them?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, that's it's simple.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's a that's a yes or no.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I wouldn't characterize it as a bounty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Do you charge them? Do you pay your employees a fee?
Do you incentivize them to go pick out bags from
people getting on planes and kick them off the flight?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just yes or no?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We charged them and say, okay, that's a yes, mister.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Klein, we do not. Senator Holly, you don't. You don't, wait,
you don't pay your employees.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
We do that we have previously served, but we actually
suspended that on September thirtieth of this year, and in
order to be able to spirit airlines one of our
guests fairly and equitably, we've actually just put more staff
and supervisors out of the gate area, and they're the
ones that are still making sure that everyone's treated fairly
and equitably, which is the point behind these kinds of programs.
(07:14):
But we have removed that program as of September thirty.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Interesting. So let's come back to you, though, mister Schroeder.
So how much have you paid your gate agents to
enforce your carry on bag policy to pick people out
of the line like the Chairman's video show. I mean,
you guys do appreciate that flying on your airlines is
a disaster, don't you. I'm slightly amazed by the general
attitude of all of you here. Flying on your airlines
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is horrible. It's terrible experience. I mean, I say this
as a father of three young children, but I can't
tell you nobody enjoys flying on your airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's a disaster.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You charge people fees that they know nothing about, you
harass them to death. I'll never forget mister Johnson, during
COVID when an attendant on your airline threatened my wife
because our five year old son his mask had slipped.
This back when we all had to wear those ridiculous masks,
his mask had slipped below his nose. This flight attendant
came up to my wife and said if she didn't
keep that mask over his nose at all points on
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this four hour flight, she would personally see that my
wife was banned from flying. This has happened over and
over to families. It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible, and your
attitude here today seems to be well, devil, make care.
There's nothing we can do about it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is yesterday's hearing there with the various CEOs of
all the airlines. I think he was specifically there pointed
towards American Airlines on that one. You heard Frontier and
Spirit popped in there, and then you had American Airlines there, Delta,
United Airlines as well, senior executives from these companies and
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it wasn't just Republican Josh Holly Democrat. Richard Blumenthal, Democrat,
longtime senator from Connecticut, came out afterwards. He is the
chair of this subcommittee, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.
That's a fun subcommittee. He came out afterwards, talked to
the media and said the outrage at the airlines was bipartisan. Quote,
(09:14):
the fury and frustration on both sides of the aisle
was pretty dramatic. Unquote. Blumenthal said that the airlines these
days view their customers as little more than walking piggy banks,
to be shaken down for every possible dime.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I don't know that they haven't always felt that way,
but before COVID, when it was actually pleasant in some cases,
when it was actually pleasant to fly, and flight attendants
were in for the most part and a good mood,
and people around you were excited to be going where
they're going. But since people absolutely lost their minds during COVID,
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and that's when everything changed. So I don't think they've
ever the hi, the management, the ownership and management ever
thought anything other than people are just piggybanks. But the
lower levels did.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I've never had a major problem flying, and I've been
subject to getting stranded in places because of issues either
with the aircraft itself or weather or whatever misconnecting flights
because they were running late. I've been told, you know,
can you get your mask up above your nose? Like, well,
the guy next to me is drinking his little cup
(10:31):
of shasta right now, he's got his mask down there.
Well that's sorry. COVID can't get anyone if they're drinking
or eating pretzels at the time. Oh yeah, I forgot.
All of this is based on Yeah, I haven't played
that little sound effect in a while, but it was
pulled back into it there. I mean, all of that
was just terrible. I've shown up places and my bags
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didn't make it. They even lost my golf clubs at
one point, a fate worse than death. And in each
instance I tried to provide grace and was provided grace.
In return from the people who work at these airlines,
and somehow I've managed to continue on in my life.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not you know, I
(11:15):
complained about so much, but I still think. You know,
if I'm gonna get from here to Los Angeles, it's
a whole lot faster to fly. Yeah, it might not
be the most convenient thing ever, But anyone has ever
been like, I'm taking a road trip and then two
hours after you start driving and you still got another
six hours to go, You're like, ah, I would give
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any I would let various flight attendants kick me in
the groin to have gotten me there half an hour ago,
and I wouldn't have to have six more hours of
driving in front of me. All I have is miles
and miles of endless concrete river in front of me,
and talk radio to keep me company, and every talk
radio station from one town to the next. It's worse
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than the other one. I can't get kfab anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
An eight hour car trip, especially if you're by yourself.
Oh that is heaven.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I don't always hate it, but I've.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Seen I haven't seen, but I know that you have driven.
I know, but I've gotten in the car and gone
all the way across the the the country.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But I don't do it in one shot. I've only
done that one time, and like an all day drive
where you're driving like sixteen seventeen hours of.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
A strat that. I won't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I have fond memories looking back, but I was
not real thrilled when I was doing it. I'm like,
why don't I just fly? Come on?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And you were also talking about a time when flying was,
as I said, at least somewhat pleasant. I flew a
lot before COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I know I've flown a lot since COVID. It's not
everything has Everything has its ups and downs, you know.
It's you can't always change things about life, only change.
You can control two things, your attitude and your effort.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, I think by controlling my attitude is by not flying.
But you said that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And you have the worst attitude and you don't fly anywhere,
and your attitude's terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It is pretty bad, all right, I said, I was
going to agree with something.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, this guy ripping into the airline executives for having
flying being a miserable experience. You had a delighted look
on your face. As Holly was going after this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's miserable flying on your Everybody knows it. It's miserable. Yeah,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah. I don't necessarily agree with everything you're saying, but I, uh,
you know, it's funny watching one group of people who
are unpopular members of Congress ripping apart another group of
people who are unpopular airline executives. I just thought it
was a lot of fun. A segment we do here,
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and we have several stories and the only thing that
really binds them is the object involved in each of them.
It turns out it's the former and future president. And
when this happens, we put these stories together and something
we call a Trump Date. Just shake your Trump, Jeff,
(14:19):
take your Trump, and here we go. Trump Days starts
here with the comments of Jeff Bezos. Bezos, the founder
of Amazon, says that this seems like a different Trump,
(14:39):
says that this Trump seems to have a lot of
energy around reducing regulations and if I can help him
do that, I'm gonna help him do that. We have
too many regulations in this country. He says that Trump
seems calmer and more settled and has grown in the
last eight years. So I'll wait while the Trump haters
cancel anything they do having to do with Amazon, like
(15:03):
I can't have Prime anymore, not gonna order anything from Amazon,
send everything back, and all the rest of this stuff.
Bezos just says, Yeah, Trump seems calmer and more settled.
He's grown in the last eight years. I imagine that
if you're twenty right now and have a fresh round
of Trump derangement syndrome based on what you've grown up with,
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then you have a hard time believing that this guy,
who has been referred to as Hitler during this entire
presidential election sweepstakes was actually worse eight years ago. Trump
does seem calmer, more settled. I don't know if that's
the right way of saying. He does seem a little.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Maybe more focused.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, And I think part of it is the media.
I think we mostly have the same guy here. But
there was such a drum beat by the media during
especially the first part of Trump's presidency. It was every
single day, here are all of Trump's tweets, and the
media is going to obsess over every single word and
(16:12):
every single one of them. And there's like fifteen a
day before five o'clock in the morning, and so that's
how you started the morning with the media outraged about
every single thing that Trump tweeted, and then in midday
there would be a press conference, Trump himself was fighting
with members of the media, and it just seemed like
the whole day was consumed with nothing but negativity and Trump,
(16:35):
you know, going off being Trump this time. The media
hasn't I mean, Trump doesn't do some of those big
news conferences your fake news, your fake news, and all
the rest of it, or at least it doesn't get
to that point, and the media largely ignores some of
the stuff he puts on truth social It just I
don't know that Trump has changed so much, is the
(16:57):
way that we consume him has changed. I don't know.
But Bezos, who recently took a lot of flak because
you know, he's the owner of the Washington Post after
they refuse to make a presidential endorsement in the twenty
twenty four election. He's still speaking about that. He says
(17:18):
it was the right decision. I'm proud of the decision
we made. I'm very aware that the Post covers all
presidents very aggressively and will continue to cover all presidents
very aggressively, and he says, you know, one concept he
hopes to impress upon the president elect is that the
media is not the enemy. It does cost people to
(17:41):
wonder though, whether Bezos and Elon Musk are going to
face off if both of them appear to be ginning
a little bit closer to Trump than they previously had.
Of course, Elon Musk very close here with Doge. I'll
tell you this about Elon Musk. I don't know that
I trust him. You know, a lot of these trumpy
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people are like, oh, yeah, we got Elon Musk and
all like, yeah, you were the same ones that like
we got Kanye Like it's just hold on here, I
think Elon Musk might be a little smarter than Kanye West.
Hold On, I don't know that I trust the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Can you tell me a politician that you do trust.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Elon's not necessarily a polication.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Can you tell me somebody in the media, in the
in politics, in Hollywood that you could say, if you
knew them, that you would trust them.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I trust Emery Songer, That's about.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It, because you know him. I know he has a
very warped sense of idea of what to do with mice. Yes,
you have you know him.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, I'm just saying, Elon.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm simply saying, don't trust politicians. No, I do not
trust them.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I am excited to see what Elon Musk is going
to do with Viveig Ramaswami, who I don't know that
I trust either of these guys. I love the vague Ramaswami.
I don't know about trust, but I love the guy.
He's been incredibly entertaining and very smart. Elon I have
not followed as much. I think he's got some very
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interesting ideas and might go through there and make some
good recommendations to the president about government efficiency. But he
just seems like the kind of a guy that if
he and Donald Trump disagree on what to get for
an appetizer at lunch someday, that suddenly he could take
up a very opposite position from Trump and all things maga.
(19:36):
I just I don't I think Elon and I'd say
the same thing about Trump. I think you can. I
can agree with those who look at these guys and
say they don't care about the country, they care about
themselves first. I think you could even say that about Trump.
But Trump has wrapped himself in as he go, so
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goes the country. So let's say that you're one of
those who says Trump is all about his own ego, Well,
he's tied in his own ego to how well the
country does. So, if indeed, you feel like Donald Trump
is all about Trump first, the only way that he
then pads that ginormous ego of his is if the
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country does well, if foreign adversaries aren't popping off and invading,
whether it's Ukraine or Israel, if the stock market is
going crazy, which it has been every day just about
since he was elected. If jobs are not only getting
better in this country, wages getting better coming back to
this country, Trump says, as long as all that goes well,
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then my ego and my legacy is intact. I don't
know you can argue motive, but it seems like that
ego is well placed in this instance. I don't know
yet what Elon Musk's ego might look like and what
he ties that into. Just saying I can tell you
that Trump has already got another thing going for him, though.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, you know, as we've called attention to several times,
and people like oh, Trump is saying we want twenty
five percent tariff on products from Mexico. Like, what's this
going to do? Like, he doesn't want a twenty five
percent tariff on products imported into the country from Mexico.
He wants Mexico to do something. I wonder what it is. Well,
(21:33):
when it comes to the border policies of the remain
in Mexico policies, and when it comes to the fentanyl,
especially coming into this country through our southern border, largely
produced in China and then smuggled here from Mexico, he
wants Mexico to be a bigger partner in catching the
smugglers of these drugs. Yesterday, Mexican soldiers and US marines
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announced the seizure of over a ton of fentanyl pills
in two raids in North Mexico, the biggest catch of
the synthetic deadly opioid fentanyl in the history of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And you see a ton, a ton, you're talking about
two thousand pounds of fentanyl, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
When just a grain of it is potentially enough to
kill a person. This is a ton of fentanyl pills.
And Trump is very proud of what happened here. Mexico
even made some mention, saying that yeah, due to pressure
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by Trump on Mexico, it appears that the administration in
Mexico is willing to increase the capture of drug traffickers
and drug seizures that the incoming president is demanding, potentially
in hopes of weakening Trump's demand of a twenty five
percent tariff. The media still doesn't get it. But that's
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the kind of thing that Trump uses as his negotiating power,
and he hasn't. We still got a month and a
half till he's sworn in, and we just had a
seizure of a ton of fentanyl pills that is credited
to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think, for all intents and purposes, he's kind of
the president. Now he doesn't have the power.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
We've wondered who the president was for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well it hasn't been him.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, but who are going to be the individuals that
make up his cabinet? The president has responded on truth
Social to a post from The Wall Street Journal about
Trump's latest setback. Trump says, what's my latest setback? I
just won the presidency of the United States. They're talking
about his pick to lead the DEA, the Drug Enforcement administration.
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Turns out was a sheriff in South Carolina who, among
other things, went out and busted church pastors for violating
COVID restrictions. Trump doesn't like it, and he says, no,
he didn't pull out. I pulled him out. Trump said
about this guy that Trump chose to lead the DEA,
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but he's sticking by Pete Hegseth to be Defense Secretary.
Heg Seth, in response to this allegation that he was
a drunk shown up for work at Fox all the time, says, look,
if I'm chosen to lead the Defense Department, no alcohol
will touch my lips. That's a problematic statement, one because
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it had almost admits that maybe there was a problem there.
And two, I think you're gonna need a drink once
in a while just putting up with this process. So
that's our Trump date here. We'll hand things off to
Clay and Buck their next on eleven ten KFABE Scott
Voyes Mornings nine to eleven Our News Radio eleven ten
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kf A b
Scott Vorgez a lot of feedback here and talking about
what should be police officers in New York City trying
to catch a murder suspect, a guy who seemingly targeted
the CEO of United Healthcare, and that murder investigation has
(00:21):
spun into some people saying, look, I'm not saying that
the murderer, you know, it was justified, or that the
CEO of the healthcare company had a coming, but you know,
healthcare in this country is so bad, and the way
we do it and the way some people are bankrupted
just trying to take care of a loved one and
all the Look, I get it, some people are in
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some horrible situations with their own or a loved one's health.
And if you've I mean really, we're all in one
of two categories. You've either been through it or you're
gonna be through it, I guess you could say, or
you're currently going through it. So we're in just a
few categories. And I don't know why you would go
(01:05):
after this if you're so mad about that, I don't
know why you'd go after the CEO of the healthcare company.
I mean, this is what the laws and restrictions and
government getting involved in healthcare anything from Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, whatever.
Government has zero role in healthcare, and all of this
(01:29):
is just grists for the mill. The senators go up
there and they say, we need to do this, we
need to make this better, and Bernie Sanders comes along
and says, we need universal health care and people shouldn't
have you know, and none of it gets any better
at all. Government should be absolutely out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What you're saying is government should not have any involvement. Now,
the way I understood what I was hearing you say
is that healthcare is the government.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, the government. Government should have zero a role in healthcare.
Why in the world we let government get involved in
healthcare money? Well, I understand why they did it, but
why we let them do it? Because, yeah, because some
people are like, hey, it works good for me, I
want to get this at this age, or you know,
(02:17):
for let's take care of poor people. And all we've
incentivized poverty, and we've incentivized the government getting involved in
health care decisions that make them more money. And the
healthcare companies are like, look, we're not heartless people here.
We're trying to take care of people and provide this
pool of health insurers. But at the same time, we
(02:41):
let's look at this. We at United Healthcare, for example,
and I don't I mean these are I've not heard
this particular healthcare company saying this. I'm just saying this
by virtue of examples. So we here at private health
insurance company, a group health insurance company. The two people
go into the hospital for procedure. In this instance, they've
(03:04):
both been hit by a bus, and one of them
has health insurance and the other one doesn't. The hospital
has to treat both people. Here. The person who has
no health insurance is not going to pay we taxpayers,
because government's involved here the hospital, We've all got to
chip in to pay for all this. Now the other
(03:25):
person has health insurance, well, we have to pay then
for his hit by a bus recovery surgery, as well
as the individual and all the people in line behind
him legally and illegally in this country who have either
no health insurance or government run health insurance. When you
(03:47):
have the government helping some of this stuff, they're going
to pay about twenty cents on the dollar for the
recovery and the treatment of this person. So who ends
up footing the bill. The people who are doing it
the right way, those with health insurance, those with jobs,
the businesses that provide their employees nice perks like group
health insurance policies to try and help all this down,
(04:10):
and all of that gets more expensive because the government
of health insurance is terrible and the people who have
no health insurance are never incentivized to get it because
they're still going to go in there, They're going to
get some level of treatment. They're not going to be
left there to die, and someone else is going to
pay for it. Who has a paying for it? The
same people pay for everything in this country, the people
who are doing it the right way, the people who
(04:33):
are going and working, the people who are punching time cards,
the people who who always end up taking the old pipe.
We just end up paying for everything. So why someone
would say, hey, we got to go murder the CEO
of the health insurance company. I'm not saying anyone should
(04:55):
murder anybody, but that iire is misplaced. Now that rant
is over, I think unless anyone wants to pull my
court again, we'll move on to not saying that every
government action is bad or every person in politics is misguided.
(05:20):
Why yesterday, Lucy, I would have thought based on your
comments over the years where you said, you know, I
would never fly in this country. If I'm going to
go to Dublin, I'm just going to drive. I'm like Dublin, Ohio,
No Ireland. I'll just drive there. I will swim the
rest of the way. Yeah, no, no, you just you
don't like taking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The I'm not a fan of flying. Yeah, I won't
fly if I don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, be that as it may. Senator Josh Holly, Republican
from Missouri, agrees with you. Yesterday they had a Senate
panel that was grilling the executives of various airline and
Josh Holly got the microphone.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So, mister Schroder, let's start with you. Do you charge
a bounty? Do you pay employees bounties on carry on bags?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And when he's talking to people, he's talking with people
who are the CEOs of these airlines. The first one,
mister Schroeder, is from Frontier Airlines. You'll hear other people
with other airlines as well. Do you charge a bounty
to pay your employees to track down those who have
oversized bags.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
To identify them?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, that's it's simple.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's a that's a yes or no.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I wouldn't characterize it as a bounty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Do you charge them? Do you pay your employees a fee?
Do you incentivize them to go pick out bags from
people getting on planes and kick them off the flight?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just yes or no?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We charged them and say, okay, that's a yes, mister.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Klein, we do not. Senator Holly, you don't. You don't, wait,
you don't pay your employees.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
We do that we have previously served, but we actually
suspended that on September thirtieth of this year, and in
order to be able to spirit airlines one of our
guests fairly and equitably, we've actually just put more staff
and supervisors out of the gate area, and they're the
ones that are still making sure that everyone's treated fairly
and equitably, which is the point behind these kinds of programs.
(07:14):
But we have removed that program as of September thirty.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Interesting. So let's come back to you, though, mister Schroeder.
So how much have you paid your gate agents to
enforce your carry on bag policy to pick people out
of the line like the Chairman's video show. I mean,
you guys do appreciate that flying on your airlines is
a disaster, don't you. I'm slightly amazed by the general
attitude of all of you here. Flying on your airlines
(07:38):
is horrible. It's terrible experience. I mean, I say this
as a father of three young children, but I can't
tell you nobody enjoys flying on your airlines.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's a disaster.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You charge people fees that they know nothing about, you
harass them to death. I'll never forget mister Johnson, during
COVID when an attendant on your airline threatened my wife
because our five year old son his mask had slipped.
This back when we all had to wear those ridiculous masks,
his mask had slipped below his nose. This flight attendant
came up to my wife and said if she didn't
keep that mask over his nose at all points on
(08:11):
this four hour flight, she would personally see that my
wife was banned from flying. This has happened over and
over to families. It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible, and your
attitude here today seems to be well, devil, make care.
There's nothing we can do about it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is yesterday's hearing there with the various CEOs of
all the airlines. I think he was specifically there pointed
towards American Airlines on that one. You heard Frontier and
Spirit popped in there, and then you had American Airlines there, Delta,
United Airlines as well, senior executives from these companies and
(08:50):
it wasn't just Republican Josh Holly Democrat. Richard Blumenthal, Democrat,
longtime senator from Connecticut, came out afterwards. He is the
chair of this subcommittee, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.
That's a fun subcommittee. He came out afterwards, talked to
the media and said the outrage at the airlines was bipartisan. Quote,
(09:14):
the fury and frustration on both sides of the aisle
was pretty dramatic. Unquote. Blumenthal said that the airlines these
days view their customers as little more than walking piggy banks,
to be shaken down for every possible dime.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I don't know that they haven't always felt that way,
but before COVID, when it was actually pleasant in some cases,
when it was actually pleasant to fly, and flight attendants
were in for the most part and a good mood,
and people around you were excited to be going where
they're going. But since people absolutely lost their minds during COVID,
(09:56):
and that's when everything changed. So I don't think they've
ever the hi, the management, the ownership and management ever
thought anything other than people are just piggybanks. But the
lower levels did.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I've never had a major problem flying, and I've been
subject to getting stranded in places because of issues either
with the aircraft itself or weather or whatever misconnecting flights
because they were running late. I've been told, you know,
can you get your mask up above your nose? Like, well,
the guy next to me is drinking his little cup
(10:31):
of shasta right now, he's got his mask down there.
Well that's sorry. COVID can't get anyone if they're drinking
or eating pretzels at the time. Oh yeah, I forgot.
All of this is based on Yeah, I haven't played
that little sound effect in a while, but it was
pulled back into it there. I mean, all of that
was just terrible. I've shown up places and my bags
(10:52):
didn't make it. They even lost my golf clubs at
one point, a fate worse than death. And in each
instance I tried to provide grace and was provided grace.
In return from the people who work at these airlines,
and somehow I've managed to continue on in my life.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not you know, I
(11:15):
complained about so much, but I still think. You know,
if I'm gonna get from here to Los Angeles, it's
a whole lot faster to fly. Yeah, it might not
be the most convenient thing ever, But anyone has ever
been like, I'm taking a road trip and then two
hours after you start driving and you still got another
six hours to go, You're like, ah, I would give
(11:38):
any I would let various flight attendants kick me in
the groin to have gotten me there half an hour ago,
and I wouldn't have to have six more hours of
driving in front of me. All I have is miles
and miles of endless concrete river in front of me,
and talk radio to keep me company, and every talk
radio station from one town to the next. It's worse
(11:58):
than the other one. I can't get kfab anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
An eight hour car trip, especially if you're by yourself.
Oh that is heaven.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I don't always hate it, but I've.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Seen I haven't seen, but I know that you have driven.
I know, but I've gotten in the car and gone
all the way across the the the country.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But I don't do it in one shot. I've only
done that one time, and like an all day drive
where you're driving like sixteen seventeen hours of.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
A strat that. I won't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, I have fond memories looking back, but I was
not real thrilled when I was doing it. I'm like,
why don't I just fly? Come on?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And you were also talking about a time when flying was,
as I said, at least somewhat pleasant. I flew a
lot before COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I know I've flown a lot since COVID. It's not
everything has Everything has its ups and downs, you know.
It's you can't always change things about life, only change.
You can control two things, your attitude and your effort.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, I think by controlling my attitude is by not flying.
But you said that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And you have the worst attitude and you don't fly anywhere,
and your attitude's terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It is pretty bad, all right, I said, I was
going to agree with something.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, this guy ripping into the airline executives for having
flying being a miserable experience. You had a delighted look
on your face. As Holly was going after this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's miserable flying on your Everybody knows it. It's miserable. Yeah,
that was good.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah. I don't necessarily agree with everything you're saying, but I, uh,
you know, it's funny watching one group of people who
are unpopular members of Congress ripping apart another group of
people who are unpopular airline executives. I just thought it
was a lot of fun. A segment we do here,
(13:56):
and we have several stories and the only thing that
really binds them is the object involved in each of them.
It turns out it's the former and future president. And
when this happens, we put these stories together and something
we call a Trump Date. Just shake your Trump, Jeff,
(14:19):
take your Trump, and here we go. Trump Days starts
here with the comments of Jeff Bezos. Bezos, the founder
of Amazon, says that this seems like a different Trump,
(14:39):
says that this Trump seems to have a lot of
energy around reducing regulations and if I can help him
do that, I'm gonna help him do that. We have
too many regulations in this country. He says that Trump
seems calmer and more settled and has grown in the
last eight years. So I'll wait while the Trump haters
cancel anything they do having to do with Amazon, like
(15:03):
I can't have Prime anymore, not gonna order anything from Amazon,
send everything back, and all the rest of this stuff.
Bezos just says, Yeah, Trump seems calmer and more settled.
He's grown in the last eight years. I imagine that
if you're twenty right now and have a fresh round
of Trump derangement syndrome based on what you've grown up with,
(15:27):
then you have a hard time believing that this guy,
who has been referred to as Hitler during this entire
presidential election sweepstakes was actually worse eight years ago. Trump
does seem calmer, more settled. I don't know if that's
the right way of saying. He does seem a little.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Maybe more focused.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, And I think part of it is the media.
I think we mostly have the same guy here. But
there was such a drum beat by the media during
especially the first part of Trump's presidency. It was every
single day, here are all of Trump's tweets, and the
media is going to obsess over every single word and
(16:12):
every single one of them. And there's like fifteen a
day before five o'clock in the morning, and so that's
how you started the morning with the media outraged about
every single thing that Trump tweeted, and then in midday
there would be a press conference, Trump himself was fighting
with members of the media, and it just seemed like
the whole day was consumed with nothing but negativity and Trump,
(16:35):
you know, going off being Trump this time. The media
hasn't I mean, Trump doesn't do some of those big
news conferences your fake news, your fake news, and all
the rest of it, or at least it doesn't get
to that point, and the media largely ignores some of
the stuff he puts on truth social It just I
don't know that Trump has changed so much, is the
(16:57):
way that we consume him has changed. I don't know.
But Bezos, who recently took a lot of flak because
you know, he's the owner of the Washington Post after
they refuse to make a presidential endorsement in the twenty
twenty four election. He's still speaking about that. He says
(17:18):
it was the right decision. I'm proud of the decision
we made. I'm very aware that the Post covers all
presidents very aggressively and will continue to cover all presidents
very aggressively, and he says, you know, one concept he
hopes to impress upon the president elect is that the
media is not the enemy. It does cost people to
(17:41):
wonder though, whether Bezos and Elon Musk are going to
face off if both of them appear to be ginning
a little bit closer to Trump than they previously had.
Of course, Elon Musk very close here with Doge. I'll
tell you this about Elon Musk. I don't know that
I trust him. You know, a lot of these trumpy
(18:02):
people are like, oh, yeah, we got Elon Musk and
all like, yeah, you were the same ones that like
we got Kanye Like it's just hold on here, I
think Elon Musk might be a little smarter than Kanye West.
Hold On, I don't know that I trust the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Can you tell me a politician that you do trust.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Elon's not necessarily a polication.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Can you tell me somebody in the media, in the
in politics, in Hollywood that you could say, if you
knew them, that you would trust them.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I trust Emery Songer, That's about.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It, because you know him. I know he has a
very warped sense of idea of what to do with mice. Yes,
you have you know him.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, I'm just saying, Elon.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm simply saying, don't trust politicians. No, I do not
trust them.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I am excited to see what Elon Musk is going
to do with Viveig Ramaswami, who I don't know that
I trust either of these guys. I love the vague Ramaswami.
I don't know about trust, but I love the guy.
He's been incredibly entertaining and very smart. Elon I have
not followed as much. I think he's got some very
(19:14):
interesting ideas and might go through there and make some
good recommendations to the president about government efficiency. But he
just seems like the kind of a guy that if
he and Donald Trump disagree on what to get for
an appetizer at lunch someday, that suddenly he could take
up a very opposite position from Trump and all things maga.
(19:36):
I just I don't I think Elon and I'd say
the same thing about Trump. I think you can. I
can agree with those who look at these guys and
say they don't care about the country, they care about
themselves first. I think you could even say that about Trump.
But Trump has wrapped himself in as he go, so
(20:01):
goes the country. So let's say that you're one of
those who says Trump is all about his own ego, Well,
he's tied in his own ego to how well the
country does. So, if indeed, you feel like Donald Trump
is all about Trump first, the only way that he
then pads that ginormous ego of his is if the
(20:22):
country does well, if foreign adversaries aren't popping off and invading,
whether it's Ukraine or Israel, if the stock market is
going crazy, which it has been every day just about
since he was elected. If jobs are not only getting
better in this country, wages getting better coming back to
this country, Trump says, as long as all that goes well,
(20:46):
then my ego and my legacy is intact. I don't
know you can argue motive, but it seems like that
ego is well placed in this instance. I don't know
yet what Elon Musk's ego might look like and what
he ties that into. Just saying I can tell you
that Trump has already got another thing going for him, though.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, you know, as we've called attention to several times,
and people like oh, Trump is saying we want twenty
five percent tariff on products from Mexico. Like, what's this
going to do? Like, he doesn't want a twenty five
percent tariff on products imported into the country from Mexico.
He wants Mexico to do something. I wonder what it is. Well,
(21:33):
when it comes to the border policies of the remain
in Mexico policies, and when it comes to the fentanyl,
especially coming into this country through our southern border, largely
produced in China and then smuggled here from Mexico, he
wants Mexico to be a bigger partner in catching the
smugglers of these drugs. Yesterday, Mexican soldiers and US marines
(21:57):
announced the seizure of over a ton of fentanyl pills
in two raids in North Mexico, the biggest catch of
the synthetic deadly opioid fentanyl in the history of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And you see a ton, a ton, you're talking about
two thousand pounds of fentanyl, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
When just a grain of it is potentially enough to
kill a person. This is a ton of fentanyl pills.
And Trump is very proud of what happened here. Mexico
even made some mention, saying that yeah, due to pressure
(22:39):
by Trump on Mexico, it appears that the administration in
Mexico is willing to increase the capture of drug traffickers
and drug seizures that the incoming president is demanding, potentially
in hopes of weakening Trump's demand of a twenty five
percent tariff. The media still doesn't get it. But that's
(23:00):
the kind of thing that Trump uses as his negotiating power,
and he hasn't. We still got a month and a
half till he's sworn in, and we just had a
seizure of a ton of fentanyl pills that is credited
to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think, for all intents and purposes, he's kind of
the president. Now he doesn't have the power.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
We've wondered who the president was for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well it hasn't been him.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, but who are going to be the individuals that
make up his cabinet? The president has responded on truth
Social to a post from The Wall Street Journal about
Trump's latest setback. Trump says, what's my latest setback? I
just won the presidency of the United States. They're talking
about his pick to lead the DEA, the Drug Enforcement administration.
(23:54):
Turns out was a sheriff in South Carolina who, among
other things, went out and busted church pastors for violating
COVID restrictions. Trump doesn't like it, and he says, no,
he didn't pull out. I pulled him out. Trump said
about this guy that Trump chose to lead the DEA,
(24:18):
but he's sticking by Pete Hegseth to be Defense Secretary.
Heg Seth, in response to this allegation that he was
a drunk shown up for work at Fox all the time, says, look,
if I'm chosen to lead the Defense Department, no alcohol
will touch my lips. That's a problematic statement, one because
(24:41):
it had almost admits that maybe there was a problem there.
And two, I think you're gonna need a drink once
in a while just putting up with this process. So
that's our Trump date here. We'll hand things off to
Clay and Buck their next on eleven ten KFABE Scott
Voyes Mornings nine to eleven Our News Radio eleven ten
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