January 10, 2025 • 15 mins
How did we get to this point with Trump and a NY courtroom, and what happens now? Also, here's my conversation with Sen. Deb Fischer about -- among other things -- the controversy surrounding her husband and the "snub" of Vice President Harris.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorhees looking at what just happened in New York
where Judge Juan Mershan of New York is sentenced President
Trump to an unconditional discharge, which, as you just heard,
is no prison, no probation, no conditions. But we did
find him guilty in a criminal hush money case, so
(00:20):
we can label him a felon. He will not pay
any money, there are no conditions, he won't spend any
time behind bars, but he has to go and be
a felon the rest of his life, which some could
argue helped put him over the top in the November
presidential election this past year. So Scott Voorhees here with
you on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station news Radio
(00:43):
eleven ten kfab. The timeline is, or seems to be,
there was a business transaction between Donald Trump and an
adult film star named Stormy Daniels. I don't know. I really,
(01:04):
it's none of my business. I'm not married to either
of these people. And you know she was either on
or wanted to be on a celebrity apprentice. I'd fallen
all over myself just basically say I don't know, and
it's I wouldn't even be carrying or talking about it.
(01:25):
But for what happened next was essentially it was said
that Stormy Daniels had was paid some money to not
talk about whatever that business transaction was, and then she
couldn't help herself and started talking about it. So then
she had to pay Trump because she was she signed
(01:46):
and accepted money, like, look, the business transaction, you've got
to sign a non disclosure and then she started disclosing,
and then she had to pay back the money. So
you had an adult film star paying Donald Trump, which
is interesting and unusual. And then how did this end
up in a New York courtroom. It has nothing to
do with those two or whatever did or didn't happen
(02:08):
or is alleged to. It has to do with the
money being used to pay for this person to sign
a non disclosure agreement. The argument was is that that
money didn't come as part of a business transaction because
that's where it was on the books. It should have
been noted as a campaign contribution and it didn't end
(02:32):
up on the books of any political campaign getting someone
not to speak out about whatever benefited the campaign. Therefore
it all should have been a campaign finance thing. This
is the kind of thing that happens all the time,
especially in some of these big campaigns. President Obama and others,
(02:53):
for any variety of reasons, have been tagged with, Hey,
there's an amount of money here that we probably should
have put as a campaign contribution or enkind contribution to
the political campaign, and it didn't get listed on there.
It's a slap on the wrist. Sometimes there's a fine paid,
if anything, but usually it's an email, it's a business transaction,
(03:17):
it's a phone call between attorneys. It's not this, it's
not any or all of this. It's a quick procedural move.
Small fine is paid, maybe a slap on the wrist.
There's never any talk about felony charges for the candidate.
There's never any talk about potential jail sentencing. There's never
(03:40):
you've got to appear before the judge today in this
virtual meetings so I can scold you about what a
terrible human being you are. None of that ever happens.
But that's what happened here as part of the there's
the perpetrator, let's find the charges and just start attaching
(04:00):
them to Donald Trump. That's how we got to this
point where it just came down. The judge in New
York sentenced Trump to unconditional discharge, no prison, no probation,
no conditions, unconditional discharge, which, by the way, will be
the name of Stormy Daniel's next movie. Scott voices News
(04:22):
Radio eleven to ten kfab there is an attempt now
in the legislature to do something about that blue dot.
You know, Nebraska and Maine are the only two states
that portion out their electoral College votes by congressional district,
which means you can win Nebraska's popular vote across the state,
(04:42):
but if you win the majority of votes in a
congressional district, like the Nebraska second congressional district here around Omaha,
you can get one electoral College vote for winning that
one congressional district, which Biden did well. Harris did this
past November, whereas Trump wanted a landslide across the rest
(05:07):
of Nebraska, every other state except Nebraska and Maine say,
if you win the state's popular vote, you get all
those electoral College votes. You could certainly have an argument
that Nebraska and Maine do it right, but that's not
how the game is played. So since every four years
there is this scenario that says, well, if you know,
the Republican wins this state, but the Democrat wins that
(05:28):
state in that state, it could come down to Nebraska's
one electoral College vote from the second district. It never happens,
but it's always a conversation. So last year they tried
to get rid of the blue dot that's where you
see the blue dot signs, and in some cases you
still see the blue dot signs around town. Not going
to give that up. So there was an attempt try
(05:50):
and get Nebraska to switch that, and Clay and Buck,
as well as President Trump himself put a lot of
pressure on people here in Nebraska to get that changed.
It didn't get changed. Some of those holdouts, like State
Senator Mike McDonald, who's now out of the legislature and
running for mayor in Omaha, didn't go along with it,
even as he'd recently switched from Democrat to Republicans. So
(06:12):
State Senator Lauren Lippincott of Central Citty, Nebraska is introduced
the winner take all measure again for the legislature, saying, well,
we have a new legislature in Nebraska. Some of those
holdouts are gone, and we don't have any candidates running
currently running for president, strong arming anyone here in Nebraska.
(06:33):
So with the fire turned down a little bit, maybe
we can get that done here in this session. Jim
Rose immediately said, we got property taxes to worry about.
We don't have to worry about it. Well, there are
eighty one bills submitted on the first day this week
in the twenty twenty five legislative session. This is one
of them. We'll see and what ends up getting discussed
(06:55):
and for how long. So with that in mind, we
now look at the swearing inn of members of Congress
this past week. Vice President Kamala Harris Per, her role
as President of the United States Senate, had the duty
of swearing in members of the Senate, like Nebraska Senator
(07:16):
deb Fisher. Not a big deal, except that there was
some controversy about how all of that ended up going down.
It was pretty obvious to a lot of us who
looked at the full video online exactly what had happened.
But it was interesting that Senator Fisher herself had not
(07:38):
responded to this controversy until this morning when she was
a guest with Jim Rose and me here on kfab's
Morning News.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Good Morning Scott, how are you doing wonderful?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Before we talk about more substantive issues, let's get to
the heart of this controversy that popped up here. As
Vice President Kamala Harris was getting you all re sworn
in for another term in the United States Senate, she
reaches out to shake your husband, Bruce's hand, who does
not return the favor. Videos shared all over the place
(08:08):
saying this is a racist mega guy out of Nebraska.
Can you tell us what happened with this video because
the entire vantage point was not shown in this video.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, as you know, my husband uses a kne He
is not racist. He is a good guy that Nebraskas know.
He held the Bible during my swearing in while he
was also leaning on his cane. It is really hard
(08:41):
to hear hateful things that are set about your spouse,
and you know, as a public figure, there's a mode
of eyes and horrible things that are said about us sometimes,
and I expect that to happen, and I've always said
it's worse on our families when things like that are said. Yeah,
now I know what that fields like, so I'm ignoring it.
(09:04):
I'm not interested in in the talk out there about it.
I'm focused on moving forward and do know what I
was elected to do. And as you know, all these
viral things on social media, they come, they go, and
and now the new news out there seems to be
(09:25):
from President Carter's funeral. Yesterday we saw the first lady,
Joe Biden and the vice president sat by each other,
and now and now everybody's saying they hate each other.
They didn't look at each other, they didn't talk. Again,
that's that's just I think people trying to stir things. Ut.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I don't know your husband. Well, I've had a
chance to chat with him a few times. I've enjoyed
those conversations. I wouldn't know him to walk into a
room and start a tirade going on. I'll tell you
another thing about these democrats, you know, that's that's not him.
That's that's not right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That does one more thing on this though, because there
was so much shared online, what does he thought personally
about his name being dragged into all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bruce is a common sense, down to earth guy, and
you know he doesn't even follow social media, but of
course all his friends and neighbors are are contacting him
as well. And you know, we we just plan to
ignore it and move ahead. Okay, that's been our experience
(10:37):
in public lives. Things are said, they're going to be said.
People make stuff up, people blow things out of proportion.
The Vice President and I are friends. We work together
four years in the Senate. I was a teller this
week in the House when she presided over the counting
(10:58):
of the electoral book votes. We were gracious to each
other there. I mean, we understand.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
What's going on talking here with Nebraska Senator Deb Fisher,
who now also has the title of Deputy Whip in
the United States Senate. So you're even more important than
you used to be. What will you be doing on
Inauguration Day a week from Monday?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh gosh, yeah, and notation day. My job there doesn't
really have anything to do with being on the whip
team again. But I'm on the committee that plans the
inaugural and Santa Klobech and I as chairman and ranking
member of Last Sessions Rules Committee, we basically are in
(11:45):
charge of it. So it's it's been just such a
wonderful experience to be able to plan that very very
important event for our democracy where we show them peaceful
transfer of power. I get to do some really wonderful
(12:05):
things and highlight the state of Nebraska. For example, I
got to choose the music group that's going to be
performing there, and so we're going to have the unl
singers come. There's going to be about hundred of them
up there right above the platform in front of the Capitol.
(12:26):
I mean, how cool is that to highlight our university,
our state, these wonderful students in that way. I get
to have a speaking role at the ceremony. I get
to introduce the president. Bruce has a role too. We'll
be going to the White House in the morning and
(12:47):
then and then back to the Capitol for the ceremony,
for a lunch afterwards. I mean, it's it's just going
to be a wonderful experience and I hope share it
all with Nebraska Suns, you know, through photos and through
a news column afterwards, because this is just really a
(13:09):
neat thing for the state in Nebraska to be highlighted.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Let's talk about legislation dev if we can for a second.
Because you're a rancher, you guys are stewards of the land,
and obviously wildfires happened in Nebraska from time to time,
But you guys are very cognizant of how to prepare
the land to withstand fires, something that's not happening in California.
What can you say, as part of legislation that's currently
being crafted to provide disaster relief for these people, what
(13:34):
can you say about strings attached to any federal money
the go to states that are not practicing wise land management.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, I begin by saying it's not necessarily states that
aren't practicing it. In many case it is, but the
federal government, especially in the western part of this country,
own millions millions of acres of public land, and under
Democrat administrations and many times Republican administrations as well, the
(14:10):
philosophy seems to be we need to fence it out
to preserve and protect it. That is not healthy, That
is not healthy for the land. You have to be
able to manage land property properly and have multi use
and what we're seeing in California is something that I've
(14:31):
warned about for years. As a rancher. You know, we
understand the proper management of land. Many of my colleagues
do as well, that you have to go in there,
clear out undergrowth, clear out that fuel. I know that
in Nebraska we've had state foresters who have visited with
(14:54):
homeowners saying, you have to get this dead undergrowth and
and twin trees. You know you have a lot of
young trees, it'll sprout up and things. You have to
be able to manage that clear get that fuel away
from your house. It's the same in any force situation.
So I hope, I hope this has been a hard lesson,
(15:16):
but I hope it's going to wake a number of
people up to realize that you don't just preserve and protect.
You have to be able to get in to manage
land to make sure that you have a healthy ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I appreciate those thoughts, as well as your co sponsorship
this week of the Lake and Riley Act to Detain
criminal illegal immigrants. What to talk about that another day.
We've got to run now, But Senator dev Fisher, thank
you very much for all the time this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You bet good visits Scott Vories News Radio eleven tien
kfab
Scott Vorhees looking at what just happened in New York
where Judge Juan Mershan of New York is sentenced President
Trump to an unconditional discharge, which, as you just heard,
is no prison, no probation, no conditions. But we did
find him guilty in a criminal hush money case, so
(00:20):
we can label him a felon. He will not pay
any money, there are no conditions, he won't spend any
time behind bars, but he has to go and be
a felon the rest of his life, which some could
argue helped put him over the top in the November
presidential election this past year. So Scott Voorhees here with
you on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station news Radio
(00:43):
eleven ten kfab. The timeline is, or seems to be,
there was a business transaction between Donald Trump and an
adult film star named Stormy Daniels. I don't know. I really,
(01:04):
it's none of my business. I'm not married to either
of these people. And you know she was either on
or wanted to be on a celebrity apprentice. I'd fallen
all over myself just basically say I don't know, and
it's I wouldn't even be carrying or talking about it.
(01:25):
But for what happened next was essentially it was said
that Stormy Daniels had was paid some money to not
talk about whatever that business transaction was, and then she
couldn't help herself and started talking about it. So then
she had to pay Trump because she was she signed
(01:46):
and accepted money, like, look, the business transaction, you've got
to sign a non disclosure and then she started disclosing,
and then she had to pay back the money. So
you had an adult film star paying Donald Trump, which
is interesting and unusual. And then how did this end
up in a New York courtroom. It has nothing to
do with those two or whatever did or didn't happen
(02:08):
or is alleged to. It has to do with the
money being used to pay for this person to sign
a non disclosure agreement. The argument was is that that
money didn't come as part of a business transaction because
that's where it was on the books. It should have
been noted as a campaign contribution and it didn't end
(02:32):
up on the books of any political campaign getting someone
not to speak out about whatever benefited the campaign. Therefore
it all should have been a campaign finance thing. This
is the kind of thing that happens all the time,
especially in some of these big campaigns. President Obama and others,
(02:53):
for any variety of reasons, have been tagged with, Hey,
there's an amount of money here that we probably should
have put as a campaign contribution or enkind contribution to
the political campaign, and it didn't get listed on there.
It's a slap on the wrist. Sometimes there's a fine paid,
if anything, but usually it's an email, it's a business transaction,
(03:17):
it's a phone call between attorneys. It's not this, it's
not any or all of this. It's a quick procedural move.
Small fine is paid, maybe a slap on the wrist.
There's never any talk about felony charges for the candidate.
There's never any talk about potential jail sentencing. There's never
(03:40):
you've got to appear before the judge today in this
virtual meetings so I can scold you about what a
terrible human being you are. None of that ever happens.
But that's what happened here as part of the there's
the perpetrator, let's find the charges and just start attaching
(04:00):
them to Donald Trump. That's how we got to this
point where it just came down. The judge in New
York sentenced Trump to unconditional discharge, no prison, no probation,
no conditions, unconditional discharge, which, by the way, will be
the name of Stormy Daniel's next movie. Scott voices News
(04:22):
Radio eleven to ten kfab there is an attempt now
in the legislature to do something about that blue dot.
You know, Nebraska and Maine are the only two states
that portion out their electoral College votes by congressional district,
which means you can win Nebraska's popular vote across the state,
(04:42):
but if you win the majority of votes in a
congressional district, like the Nebraska second congressional district here around Omaha,
you can get one electoral College vote for winning that
one congressional district, which Biden did well. Harris did this
past November, whereas Trump wanted a landslide across the rest
(05:07):
of Nebraska, every other state except Nebraska and Maine say,
if you win the state's popular vote, you get all
those electoral College votes. You could certainly have an argument
that Nebraska and Maine do it right, but that's not
how the game is played. So since every four years
there is this scenario that says, well, if you know,
the Republican wins this state, but the Democrat wins that
(05:28):
state in that state, it could come down to Nebraska's
one electoral College vote from the second district. It never happens,
but it's always a conversation. So last year they tried
to get rid of the blue dot that's where you
see the blue dot signs, and in some cases you
still see the blue dot signs around town. Not going
to give that up. So there was an attempt try
(05:50):
and get Nebraska to switch that, and Clay and Buck,
as well as President Trump himself put a lot of
pressure on people here in Nebraska to get that changed.
It didn't get changed. Some of those holdouts, like State
Senator Mike McDonald, who's now out of the legislature and
running for mayor in Omaha, didn't go along with it,
even as he'd recently switched from Democrat to Republicans. So
(06:12):
State Senator Lauren Lippincott of Central Citty, Nebraska is introduced
the winner take all measure again for the legislature, saying, well,
we have a new legislature in Nebraska. Some of those
holdouts are gone, and we don't have any candidates running
currently running for president, strong arming anyone here in Nebraska.
(06:33):
So with the fire turned down a little bit, maybe
we can get that done here in this session. Jim
Rose immediately said, we got property taxes to worry about.
We don't have to worry about it. Well, there are
eighty one bills submitted on the first day this week
in the twenty twenty five legislative session. This is one
of them. We'll see and what ends up getting discussed
(06:55):
and for how long. So with that in mind, we
now look at the swearing inn of members of Congress
this past week. Vice President Kamala Harris Per, her role
as President of the United States Senate, had the duty
of swearing in members of the Senate, like Nebraska Senator
(07:16):
deb Fisher. Not a big deal, except that there was
some controversy about how all of that ended up going down.
It was pretty obvious to a lot of us who
looked at the full video online exactly what had happened.
But it was interesting that Senator Fisher herself had not
(07:38):
responded to this controversy until this morning when she was
a guest with Jim Rose and me here on kfab's
Morning News.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Good Morning Scott, how are you doing wonderful?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Before we talk about more substantive issues, let's get to
the heart of this controversy that popped up here. As
Vice President Kamala Harris was getting you all re sworn
in for another term in the United States Senate, she
reaches out to shake your husband, Bruce's hand, who does
not return the favor. Videos shared all over the place
(08:08):
saying this is a racist mega guy out of Nebraska.
Can you tell us what happened with this video because
the entire vantage point was not shown in this video.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, as you know, my husband uses a kne He
is not racist. He is a good guy that Nebraskas know.
He held the Bible during my swearing in while he
was also leaning on his cane. It is really hard
(08:41):
to hear hateful things that are set about your spouse,
and you know, as a public figure, there's a mode
of eyes and horrible things that are said about us sometimes,
and I expect that to happen, and I've always said
it's worse on our families when things like that are said. Yeah,
now I know what that fields like, so I'm ignoring it.
(09:04):
I'm not interested in in the talk out there about it.
I'm focused on moving forward and do know what I
was elected to do. And as you know, all these
viral things on social media, they come, they go, and
and now the new news out there seems to be
(09:25):
from President Carter's funeral. Yesterday we saw the first lady,
Joe Biden and the vice president sat by each other,
and now and now everybody's saying they hate each other.
They didn't look at each other, they didn't talk. Again,
that's that's just I think people trying to stir things. Ut.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I don't know your husband. Well, I've had a
chance to chat with him a few times. I've enjoyed
those conversations. I wouldn't know him to walk into a
room and start a tirade going on. I'll tell you
another thing about these democrats, you know, that's that's not him.
That's that's not right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That does one more thing on this though, because there
was so much shared online, what does he thought personally
about his name being dragged into all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bruce is a common sense, down to earth guy, and
you know he doesn't even follow social media, but of
course all his friends and neighbors are are contacting him
as well. And you know, we we just plan to
ignore it and move ahead. Okay, that's been our experience
(10:37):
in public lives. Things are said, they're going to be said.
People make stuff up, people blow things out of proportion.
The Vice President and I are friends. We work together
four years in the Senate. I was a teller this
week in the House when she presided over the counting
(10:58):
of the electoral book votes. We were gracious to each
other there. I mean, we understand.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
What's going on talking here with Nebraska Senator Deb Fisher,
who now also has the title of Deputy Whip in
the United States Senate. So you're even more important than
you used to be. What will you be doing on
Inauguration Day a week from Monday?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh gosh, yeah, and notation day. My job there doesn't
really have anything to do with being on the whip
team again. But I'm on the committee that plans the
inaugural and Santa Klobech and I as chairman and ranking
member of Last Sessions Rules Committee, we basically are in
(11:45):
charge of it. So it's it's been just such a
wonderful experience to be able to plan that very very
important event for our democracy where we show them peaceful
transfer of power. I get to do some really wonderful
(12:05):
things and highlight the state of Nebraska. For example, I
got to choose the music group that's going to be
performing there, and so we're going to have the unl
singers come. There's going to be about hundred of them
up there right above the platform in front of the Capitol.
(12:26):
I mean, how cool is that to highlight our university,
our state, these wonderful students in that way. I get
to have a speaking role at the ceremony. I get
to introduce the president. Bruce has a role too. We'll
be going to the White House in the morning and
(12:47):
then and then back to the Capitol for the ceremony,
for a lunch afterwards. I mean, it's it's just going
to be a wonderful experience and I hope share it
all with Nebraska Suns, you know, through photos and through
a news column afterwards, because this is just really a
(13:09):
neat thing for the state in Nebraska to be highlighted.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Let's talk about legislation dev if we can for a second.
Because you're a rancher, you guys are stewards of the land,
and obviously wildfires happened in Nebraska from time to time,
But you guys are very cognizant of how to prepare
the land to withstand fires, something that's not happening in California.
What can you say, as part of legislation that's currently
being crafted to provide disaster relief for these people, what
(13:34):
can you say about strings attached to any federal money
the go to states that are not practicing wise land management.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, I begin by saying it's not necessarily states that
aren't practicing it. In many case it is, but the
federal government, especially in the western part of this country,
own millions millions of acres of public land, and under
Democrat administrations and many times Republican administrations as well, the
(14:10):
philosophy seems to be we need to fence it out
to preserve and protect it. That is not healthy, That
is not healthy for the land. You have to be
able to manage land property properly and have multi use
and what we're seeing in California is something that I've
(14:31):
warned about for years. As a rancher. You know, we
understand the proper management of land. Many of my colleagues
do as well, that you have to go in there,
clear out undergrowth, clear out that fuel. I know that
in Nebraska we've had state foresters who have visited with
(14:54):
homeowners saying, you have to get this dead undergrowth and
and twin trees. You know you have a lot of
young trees, it'll sprout up and things. You have to
be able to manage that clear get that fuel away
from your house. It's the same in any force situation.
So I hope, I hope this has been a hard lesson,
(15:16):
but I hope it's going to wake a number of
people up to realize that you don't just preserve and protect.
You have to be able to get in to manage
land to make sure that you have a healthy ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I appreciate those thoughts, as well as your co sponsorship
this week of the Lake and Riley Act to Detain
criminal illegal immigrants. What to talk about that another day.
We've got to run now, But Senator dev Fisher, thank
you very much for all the time this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You bet good visits Scott Vories News Radio eleven tien
kfab
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