January 24, 2025 • 55 mins
This podcast starts with me on with Gary and Jim talking about our late friend Calvin Jones. Then, I make the mistake of telling Lucy I had a dream about her last night, which leads to conversations about psychics. Finally, I have a bittersweet conversation with Michelle Root about her daughter, Sarah, for whom "Sarah's Law" is named and was finally passed this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vordy, Garry Sladamyer, Jim Rose, Lucy Chapman and Compedy
k have AB's Morning News and uh Scott Bore. He
stops by as he does every morning. Good morning, Scott. Yeah,
I love it when you stop by ahead of your show.
Now you were a little ahead or a little behind Calvin.
You never got to show him how it works on
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the football field when you were starring for Ralston High School.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I love my life.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
He was a little older than you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I love my lifetime of experience with Calvin Jones. So
it was at my friend Jordan's house that early November
when Calvin decided to run for eight miles against KU
that day ninety four were watching two game. Yeah, we
were watching that game and just couldn't believe it. Who
I know, who is this kid who was just a
few years older than us at that time. I ended
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up working with Calvin. Oh you know, Jim Rose is
not the only member of this team who was on
sports nightly across the Husker Sports Network.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He was on with Warren Swayin for a brief Oh yeah,
that's right there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And so I have a perspective on Calvin. You know,
I'll share that with you now. I didn't know how
much to talk about this during my show, but Calvin
was one of a few former Huskers who after they
got done playing football. You know, the skills that you
learn toting a football don't exactly translate themselves immediately to Oh,
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I got to go find a job, I got to
do something. And Calvin, I say this because of what
I'm going to say after this. Calvin was pretty entitled
after his time his few years in the NFL, and
he was not real happy with Nebraska football fans and
once told me said, they have they cheer for you
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on Saturday, but when you need them on Monday, where
are they. Yeah, he was not real happy about it.
I think he felt like, I scored a lot of
touchdowns for this team. Someone just got to give me something.
And you know, Calvin was always really nice and fun
to be around, but when it came to that conversation,
he was pretty entitled about it. He struggled with that
(02:03):
for a few years. The last time I saw him
was a few years ago when he was once again
and I think coach Osborne getting him involved in the
teammates movement. Calvin Jones was one of the original former
Huskers who really got involved in the Teammates movement. Once
Calvin started giving of himself and seeing the look on
people's faces and they're like, hey, Calvin Jones is here.
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I mean, he realized how much Husker Nation loved him,
how much he loved being a part of this family,
and he would jump at the chance to do anything.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And the last time I saw him was at a
charity event with the Nebraska Husker Salute the Troops, gold
Star Families and all the rest of this stuff. Talked
to him for a little bit, big smile on his face.
Could not have been more content and happy in his
life and loved it. And I thought, I'm so glad
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that Calvin now has this perspective, because he didn't. He
didn't have it well.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
As Jem and I were talking about Scott.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that is an outstanding appraisals. Never tell co
workers I had a dream about you last night, because
it is the creepiest thing you could say. But since
I have no problem with that, I just told Lucy
I had a dream about you last night. And I
have the worst dreams of anyone, not bad in that,
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like I had a dream that you were gonna have
your eyes pecked out by this goat bird hybrid things.
You know, It wasn't anything like that. I just they're
just boring. They're just boring dreams. Everyone else has dreams
like that, are all you know of a prurient nature
and stuff like that. Occasionally that kind of thing pops
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up in my dreams, but it's always me walking in
on someone else doing it. I just walk in. I
just walk in, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, and
then I leave. I have the most boring, ridiculous dreams.
So my dream about Lucy was that you were just
walking up and down the hall runway style, wearing jeans
and a shirt like you have on today, and that
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you were wearing high heels, like ridiculously tall spiked high heels.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know what that's from, because I have said before,
the higher your heel, the thinner you look. And so
I'm gonna start wearing stilts.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
See. I woke up from this dream thinking that was weird,
and then I thought like, if I tell Lucy that
she's gonna make some comment about her weight.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And I did not let you down.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
My dreams has come true.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm wondering if this is kind of something that's happening
with everybody, because I have had some of the most
bizarre dreams. And when you told me that, I said, oh,
my gosh, because I had a dream last night that
I was roller skating. Oh but that's not even what
was It was terrible because I got home and I
took my my roller skates off, but they were actually
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there were some shoes laying there, and all of a sudden,
one of the shoes by itself just came rolling at me,
and I picked it up and I looked at it
and there was a wheel underneath it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, it's one of those kids shoes that they wore
probably twenty years ago, that had the wheels on there.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No, this was a regular pair of shoes that even
in my dream I recognized these were my shoes.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like that Stephen King movie where the cars and trucks
come to life.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Your shoe like Carrie, No, not Carrie, Carrie, the other one.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I can't think of the title either. I've actually never
seen it, but it's like that Christine. Yes, Christine, that's right.
I was like, yeah, I think a girl's name does,
So your shoe did it come to life and wheel
towards you to potentially kill you.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I don't know. Here's the thing, though, I knew that
it was of an evil nature. How about that, I
knew it was not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
If your shoe moves towards you without any outside force,
that's a haunted shoe.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, yeah, how did it get the wheel? I mean
the wheel was like attached to it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's what I'm talking about. Are other people having weird dreams,
because that's not the weirdest dream I've had lately.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I forgot that you're a bit of a dream interpreter.
We established that almost twenty years ago when we started
doing this radio show, and then we kind of forgot
about it. Like Daphne in Fraser.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hmmm, that's right, and she yeah, she did that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
She It started off where Dafty's character was a little
bit psychic. Oh, and that was and that was kind
of part of the bit until they realized, like, ah,
that's dumb, We're going to completely ignore that for the
rest of the time. We established pretty early on like oh,
Lucy's a bit of a dream interpreter, and then we
kind of ignored it for the better part of the
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last That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm used to being.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Seventeen years No, I don't think that's a fair statement.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't ignore you the same way all the time.
I find new and interesting ways to completely ignore you. Fact,
we might have to have some lucy dream interpretation later
in today's show.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't want it to get like because I am
a hundred percent not with the psychic garbage. Sorry, I'm sorry,
but I'll stand by that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Did you know that Psychic Susanna passed away last summer?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Did not know that really quietly.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I didn't find out about it for months until
I was thinking, like, I haven't gotten out of the
blue text from our friend Psychic Susannah in a while.
And I don't know where I thought to look or whatever,
but I just I felt a connection that I needed
to check up on her. And I checked up on
her and she was gone. Psychic Susanna passed away last summer.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That is very sad.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We hadn't noted that here on this radio station. She
did a Sunday night show. She did a live Sunday
night show for us for a couple of years. This
goes back ten to fifteen years ago, and she would
just sit in here for a couple of hours and
take live phone calls from around the country of people.
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And basically she didn't need to know, like what did
you dream about? Tell me about you? You would just
call up and go, I'm Lucy, and I was born
in nineteen eighty six, if that's all right. And Lucy's like,
if you're gonna lie about my age, can you make
me even younger?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I'm living that I was born in nineteen ninety four.
And psychic exanta, just like a you just take over
and give really specific comments like psychic interpretations to callers.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And that is what I mean when I say I
do not want to get go down that road, because
I have one reject that when I say that, I
first of all don't say I interpret dreams. But when
you dream, there is usually a reason behind something that
you have dreamt. Have you ever dreamt about somebody that
you haven't seen or heard from in years, but then
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you think about it and you heard that person's name
or some tiny little aspect it gets into your brain.
So that's what I'm talking about. It's just stuff that
you can relate to what is actually going on in
your life because you take all of that stuff with
you when you go to sleep, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I wanted to bring that up about psychic Susannah,
after you said I don't believe in that psychic garbage,
because I think that there are people who they don't
know about whether or not there's a psychic realm that
these people exist in. They only know if someone tells
them something that they don't want to hear, and they
hear it, they automatically don't like that person or anything
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they just told you. It doesn't matter where it came from.
It's like, I don't want to hear it now. At
the same token, if someone tells you something that you
want to hear, you're like, oh, I like this, tell
me more.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I believe in this kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, I disagree usually what.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I found about people. But you're you're very unusual.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
People well, first of all, and psychic Suzanne was one
of them, Susannah. Susannah, she actually did try to tell
me something once.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You didn't want to hear it. I did not anything
to do with it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Didn't care.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Some people don't. I did because I thought it'd be,
you know, fun and entertaining radio when she would pop
on here once in a while, and then she would
tell me things that sometimes I didn't want to hear them,
and they were like so accurate that I was like,
all right, I don't let's let's take a call, let's
get away from this. I'd like, how in the world.
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And it's not like one of those things where you
call a nine seven, six, five ninety nine a minute
number at three am and they tell you like you're lonely? Yes,
how did you know you have problems with money? Oh
my gosh, how did you know that?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It wasn't one of those things. But yeah, Psychic Susannah
was something else. The same moment. We had I don't know,
business partners or advertising partners, same thing, but we had
we had like people in suits here in the building,
and I think Psychic Susannah just got done with my show,
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and I'm walking her out the door as these fancy people,
including this woman, are coming in and completely unprovoked Psychic Susannah,
who was this little like umpah lumpa sized larger than
life Sicilian woman who had no problem just erupting at
the mouth anytime she wanted to seize. This person come
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in and just completely unprovoked, no introduction, no anything. This
little woman just goes right up to her and goes,
you're pregnant. And this woman had a look. I think
we lost that business. You know, there were a lot
of people. Our sales manager at the time, Marnie was
really really not happy about I'm trying to grab Susannah
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Tucker under my arm like a football and get her
out of the building. What I always wanted to know, though,
was was that woman pregnant that you never found out?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And that's one of the things that are Would you
do that about politics? Would you walk up to a
complete stranger and say, aren't you glad? Or aren't you upset?
Of course not, because you never know when you're going
to If she did do that to me and I
was polite, she was and I just turned around a
walk to wait.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But she was something else. But I'll tell you one
of the first text messages I got every Christmas morning
psychic Susannah, Merry Christmas, sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I'm not disparaging her or her personally.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You're dancing on her grave.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to talk about what happened in Lincoln yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I do, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They had a bunch of people down there protesting against
this potential law here in Nebraska. We get a bill,
there's going to be a debate on the bill, and
it's going to be whiny, cry baby people and sometimes
literal cry babies. The bill is a plan to change
where you could be prosecuted as young as eleven years old.
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And people go, oh, eleven year olds, these are just babies.
They don't know what they're doing, and what are you
going to do? You are the locked people in cages
because of some graffiti or they swiped a candy bar
or a sucker, something like that. No, we've seen kids
as young as eleven twelve years old committing incredibly violent
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and adult crimes. They know what they're doing. They're evil.
I'm not saying that they came up with it on
their own. Not all these kids are chucky, but some
of them are. And a lot of them the old
they're horrible. Older brothers or friends or whatever bring these
kids in there and they have these kids pull the
trigger because they know, all right, he's not going to
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get in much trouble and I don't want to go
to jail, so we'll just have him do it. And
it becomes like this horrible violent life serial commercial. Hey, hey,
let's go rob that person. Let's go stick a gun
in that guy's face. I don't want to do it.
I'm not going back to jail. Well, you know, he'll
do it. Mikey. Hey, Mikey, And they put a gun
in Mikey's hand and he goes and rather than enjoys
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a bowl of cinnamon Life, which, now that I think
about it, that's a really good cereal and I should
have some more of that in my life, instead goes
and sticks a gun in someone's face. Sometimes he shoots
the person and then the police come and go Mikey.
He's like, I didn't know. I'm living and nothing happens,
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and everyone knows that's the deal. And when they set
all this up, people argued like, well, it's not like
eleven year olds are going to be grabbing guns and
killing people and stealing cars and attacking women. This is
the same mindset that happens all the time in Nebraska.
The most infamous of all these examples is when they
decided to allow safe havening your kids up to the
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age of eighteen. The idea was is that if you
have a baby and then you look at it and go,
I changed my mind. You can just drop them off
at a fire station or like Blockbuster video. You put
him in the rewind them and then thank you, and
then put them in the slot. And I needed that,
and then there's no repercussions. It's like, well, we have
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a baby and it's not a big deal. And then
Ernie Chambers, in one of the funniest things he ever did,
said all right, if you're gonna allow that for kids
as young as, you know, a few weeks old or
up to a year or something, then why not do
it for any minor child. And the argument was, it's
not like people are gonna come from around the country
and drop off their maladjusted teenagers. And that's exactly what
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they did. We were having We had a brand new
tourism here in Nebraska where people came from all around
the country with their snotty little fourteen year olds and said,
and we're in Omaha. Here he is, and they'd leave
him and then they would drive away. It was heartbreaking
and kind of hilarious, and so they had to go
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back to the legislature and change the laws so people
stopped dropping off they're maladjusted teenagers. We had a whole
bit about it, the maladjusted hospital drop teenagers bit. I
remember so same thing here with juvenile crime. They said,
all right, well, at some point we got to do
like an age cut off where people wouldn't be charged
as adults. And they're like, I don't know, how about eleven.
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It's not like an eleven year old is going to
do them. And that's exactly what's been happening. So you
had these protesters in Lincoln yesterday. Here's a seventeen year
old kid who is talking out there yesterday. Young man said,
we all deserve a chance to learn from our mistakes
and not be punished for life. Ok, what mistake? What
are we talking about? You stole some bread? What is this?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Les miserab what happened here? Or did you? Did you
murder somebody? Which we've seen. So this was yesterday in
the unicameral. Now, admittedly, the ages of the individuals I'm
going to give here aren't eleven years old, but I
guarantee the kids involved in these three stories just pulled
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from yesterday's news across the state. They were no prizes
at eleven and we had plenty of opportunity to do
something meaningful in their lives before they got to this point. Story.
Let's see here Waverley. Two Waverley teenagers are in custody
after being accused of repeatedly assaulting an eleven year old girl.
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The Lancaster County Sheriff's Office arrested two fourteen year olds
and one seventeen year old boy. And when I say assaulting,
you know what I mean. Scott's Bluff announced the arrest
of two teenagers in connection with the death of a
fifteen year old boy this week. This is a seventeen
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and a sixteen year old boy, each charged in connection
with the death of a fifteen year old kid named
Wyatt reeb who was stabbed in the chest in Scott's
Bluff on Monday. Again, those arrested seventeen and sixteen. And
then you've got this that happened this week in Lincoln.
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And because of the details in this one, I just
get really sad when I read about this. It's a
nine year old kid who's trying to hang out with
his old I don't know his older brothers or some
older friends that he knows, and he's hanging out with
them at the mall on Monday. Monday was Martin Luther
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King Day, so they were off school. I think this
happened on Monday. Yeah, on Monday. So they're all hanging
out at the Gateway mall and Lincoln and this nine
year old kid, they said, he was trying to, you know,
he's following a group of kids he knew, trying to
kind of hang out with them, and they were watching
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a video on someone's phone and he's trying to watch
the video and a fifteen year old boy picks up
this nine year old kid and body slams him to
the hard tile floor of the mall so hard that
this nine year old kid was treated for a concussion
and a broken collar bone. Also had a cut that
required six stitches. Video surveillance showed him landing on his
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head and shoulder, while the fifteen year old teenager who
did this smiled and ran from the scene. When police
grabbed him later, he just said, I was just joking
around in I was just I was just messing with him.
Oh did he think that I was serious when I
body slammed him? On his head, nine year old kid.
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All these stories are horrible. They all involve young people
and it shows you that when Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson,
who has talked about this issue a number of times
over the years, on this program, he says, since two
thousand and seven, we've seen an over fifteen hundred percent
increase in repeat felonious juvenile crimes. These are repeat felony
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crimes committed by juveniles, high risk repeat juvenile offender. Because
we don't do anything real meaningful in terms of punishment.
Sometimes they go to like this unlocked group home where
they cut off an ankle monitor and they leave and
then they commit more crimes. And he says, since two
thousand and seven, we've seen an increase in repeat felony
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juvenile crimes over one thousand, five hundred percent. So we
have law enforcement going to the capitol to say this
bill where you can charge right now, the current law
is thirteen to where a kid can be detained for
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a really bad adult crime. They want to change that
from thirteen to eleven and would also lower the age
of juvenile could be charged as an adult from the
current fourteen down to twelve years old. So you have
law enforcements saying this is necessary, and then you've got
these alleged community leaders, members of the unicamer and say
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we don't want to put kids in cages. Tell that
to the mom of Alan Reid, who was sitting there
having breakfast with his mom a couple of years ago,
and a kid eleven, twelve thirteen, I forget. However, many
years old under fourteen goes in there and shoots him
in the face to try and steal a couple of
bucks with another friend about the same age waiting outside,
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and to get away car. So that's what they did yesterday,
Lucy in Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
As long as you continue to let the Internet and
all its role models quote unquote raise your kids, as
long as you're doing that, this problem is never going away.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I have an email here from Andy says, Hey, Scott,
you guys were talking about psychics and dreams. I had
a dream a couple of years ago. But a teacher
from high school. Last time I saw him was at
my wedding. Hands down the only reason I graduated. He
was the only reason I did anything, Probably the largest
influence on my life other than my family. A couple
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of years ago, I walk up in the middle of
the night and had a vivid dream of him explaining
something at my house in relation to an issue I
was having that week. I pushed it off, but a
couple days later I went to call him directly and
found out he had died exactly one hour before I
woke up that night. I don't know if I believe
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it's a psychic connection, but it's amazing how things in
your dreams can be connected to real life events and
the connections we have physically and non physically with people
who influence our lives. Lucy, do you believe now Andy
was visited? That's what my wife would say, you were visited.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Do I believe he was visited or that he believes
that it was weird thing? Yeah? But I don't believe
he was visited by his teacher.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah he was, well I did. Do you think you
can just explain everything?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Who gave you that power?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You can't explain everything. To say, we were talking about
our friend, Psychic Susannah, who was a frequent guest on
this show, did a Sunday night show on this radio
station and had passed away last year. And I told
a story about how psychic Susannah had absolutely no filter
on her and just go up to random people and
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be like, do you know someone named Mark? And they're like,
who is this? This little woman? This a little oop
a loopa of a Sicilian woman. And so I told
a story about her assaulting some clients here with with
some she went up to some woman she didn't know.
It's like, you're pregnant and this woman's like, who are you?
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So then Gary Sadlemeyer, he hosts the morning drive program
on this radio station, kfab's Morning News with Gary Sadlemeyer,
I've heard of it. And he came back into the
studio and said, I've got a story about psychic.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I don't want to interrupt. By that time, it's Friday,
it is well, I just remember I hadn't heard that
she died.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
She was a character, yes, and and yeah, you're right,
she would just random text once or twice a year.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, and she but a lot of people know her
because she would do these psychic readings and bars and
restaurants around town all the time. And she was an
institution in this time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And uh, and there were time or two. I thought
she should find an institution. But be that is it me.
I'm with Lucy on the on the psychic stuff, but whatever. Anyway,
you don't exactly believe. I think it's hokum. But the
story is the first time I met Suzannah good lord,
I'm thinking late eighties, maybe some were in there and
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our midday host had her on.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Who was that?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I thinking it was George Woods. Okay, it's hard, it's
a long time ago. Anyway, Juicy George. Yeah, and George
Woods would come on.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got some juicy hot topics for you, so we
started calling him Juicy George.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And I you knew George and I had I had
to bring I had to bring him something into the
studio from the news or my can't it doesn't matter.
So I was just gonna hand him this and leave
and he's talking to Susanna. Oh sit down, okay, So
I sat down. Well, I had my wedding ring on
and my coffee cup that day was from remember when
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there used to be the All Canada show Down at
the at the time of the Civic auditoriyment. It was
a hunting and fishing you know, all these Canadian resorts
and stuff. That's what it was called. There was one
of those, and and the silhouette on this coffee mug
We're Canada geese, and the sunset and maybe a guy
with a shotgun on him.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Anyway, so Doug, so I said.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I sit down, and she's and and George says, Susannah,
I'd like it, McGary, I said, I Susanna. She said,
you are in a deep relationship. You're you like the outdoors.
And and I said, what were what were your first clues?
You know, could it be my wedding ring? Oh? I
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didn't notice? Yeah, right, you didn't notice. Huh. And we
we got to be friends, and you know, but I
do think this. I'm not one hundred percent sure of this,
but I I'm about ninety percent sure that she believed it. Oh,
I think she was dead serious.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, yes she was. And like I mean, you find
someone like each Aro Suzuki, one of the greatest baseball
players of all time, Well he can get a hit
every time he was at bad you know, so sometimes
it seems like I know, so psychics, Susannah. You know
you're gonna have some swings and missus and or that story.
(27:52):
But you know how they explain that away, right, the psychics.
So let's say they come to you and go, you
just came into a bunch of money or something like that,
and you're like, no, I didn't. Well you're going to know.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And so Lucy and I were just chatting about this.
I you know, I say, I think it's hokum. I
don't discount or dismiss the possibility that there are some
people that may have a gift of some kind because
there are too many interesting stories. But for the folks
who do this for a lifting, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Some are better than move on. Yeah, better than others.
All right, thank you, Scott. So you guys were talking
a lot about Calvin Jones the school. Yeah, man, Calvin
one of the greatest running backs out of Nebraska. And
one thing that I didn't talk about when I was
in here with you and Jim talking about it was
just how huge it was growing up here in Omaha
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throughout the especially like mid eighties, throughout throughout all the nineties,
to where everyone in town was trying to get a
ticket to go see an Omaha Central football game because
of the pipeline and running yes Liota's flowers. Then you
had Calvin Jones. Then you had Aman Green. Well, I
think there was someone else, Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think it was before Calvin.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Keith Jones, En Zone Jones, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And then Calvin and then I'm on David Horn, I.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Mean well and Aman Green. By the time we played
Omaha Central there in the early to mid nineties, Aman
Green wasn't even the Omaha Central running back we were worried about.
They had another guy named Damian Morrow. Really yeah, and
he was he was the stud in Omaha Central, and
so they just handed off to both these guys. It
turns out they both had no problem running over the
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Ralston Ram defense. We tried to put up against those guys,
but Marrow went on to play i think at Wayne
State and we never heard aman Green's name ever again.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Right, I'll say you the athletes that have come out
of this town. Yeah, if you want to wow somebody sometime,
if they start on honors and so on, how likely
is it that we're about a million now they Omaha Metro,
the city of this size, would have produced in two
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of our major sports, arguably the best ever. Well in baseball,
you got to be talking pitching and can't be just
all baseball Bob Gibson and Gail Sayers. Is they're in
the conversation with the top five in every conversation. Yeah,
right out of Omaha, Nebraska, you know. I mean, it's incredible,
and not to mention the ones that you hit that
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were lesser lights that were incredible. I had a friend
tell me after Gail Sayers got famous at KU that
he said, my buddy came home from practice. He said,
you think Gail Sayers is fast? You ought to see
his brother. Do you ever know Roger Sayers? Or I
believe it's still with us, wonderful guy. I mean that
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that well, you ought to You ought to get Dirk
Channeling's twenty fourth and Glory. It's amazing read. It really
is about about the confluence of of that generation of
athletes and ones that followed, like Calvin and those great
high school backs out of Central. It is an amazing,
amazing athletes city.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
When I was growing up, the only thing I knew
about Gail Sayers was a great Chicago Bear and the
movie Brian's Song. And then Bob Gibson, which, as you
have pointed out several times as a character flaw of mine.
I'm not a big baseball guy. But the next thing
you're gonna tell me I don't like bacon. No, I
love bacon, don played of whatever. Yeah, he's a big fan.
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When I had Chuck D a Public Enemy on the
show years ago, the first thing he said, He's like, Omaha,
Bob Gibson's from there, and we started talking about baseball,
and Bob Gibson loved you know. I know you're a
big Chuck D Public Enemy fan. Do you want to
do one of those songs for us right now?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I would, But yeah, I gotta go back, flush my
water pick and get ready for the weekend. I'm busy,
very busy.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, I'll tell you and you that I was going
to spend a moment in this segment, and here WI
would be the moment talking about how there was a bittersweet,
good piece of news that came out yesterday and that
was Sarah's Law. We were just talking about Sarah Root
the other day. Sarah's law has finally passed in Congress.
Today President Trump is expected to sign Sarah's Law. While
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we were talking there, I got a text from Sarah's mom, Michelle,
and she's going to come on the radio. What this
hearing about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
One of the greatest scandals of all time, yeah, in
this area, is that that guy was allowed to just
go to just leave. And it's never been heard of since.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This guy driving drunk in our nation, illegally driving drunk,
speeding through a red light, kills This poor girl just
graduated from Bellevue University with the bright future and criminal
justice ahead of her. Sarah Root incredible and she just
graduated that day. That was about nine years ago now,
And it took that long. Yeah, it took that long
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to have a law that says if you're in the
country illegally that and you commit a crime that results
in death or serious injury of someone, that you should
be detained. You shouldn't already be a flight rest and
be allowed to post bond and take off. And we've
never seen that guy. No one know that guy's alive
somewhere as when Mahea is the guy's name, he's somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Females Salvador as I recall any probably back down there somewhere, and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's he's alive somewhere right now. He's sitting there knowing
exactly what he did and knowing that he's never had
to stand trial or be punished for it. And what
do you think he's doing today? He's got to live.
He's living with that every single day, and I don't
know that he cares. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Unlikely.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Do you think what do you think they'll ever catch
him bring him back here?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well you would. You would need somebody to know, which
is possible. His name gets mentioned in broadcast outlets and
newspapers and stuff once in a while. It would take
somebody who knows, who knows somebody who knows somebody. It
is possible, but it doesn't seem likely because he's probably
just vanished.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Do you want to do Do you want to do
any more radio this morning? You can hang out here
with us till eleven. We can blow out Clay and
Buck and we talk all day.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We can't blow out clan Buck. I've had the look.
I was program director for a while before. You you know, yes,
you know what happens when you don't put Rush or
clan Buck the pitchforks and the torches. You go marching
up Underwood Avenue. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm so glad that you were the person who took
the phone calls at the time when we had some
like Nebraska baseball team was so bad they weren't even
going to be in the post. You know, the Big
ten or the Big eight. You know, we carry the game.
We had to carry a baseball game. Nebraska is getting beat.
It was basketball too. Yeah, first of all, there was
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like a rain delay and then and so now we've
got we're preempted Rush Limbaugh on this radio station, and
people will call you, go, what in the well are
you doing? You got the rained away on the radio
and a lot of fun man.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, all right, well you try not to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Gary Sadelemeyer, host KAB this morning News, and thank you
very much for hanging out here and sharing the psychic
Susannah story, my pleasure and everything else we just talked about.
As I mentioned Michelle Root, Sarah's mom just sent me
a text and said that she will be on the
radio here at oh ten thirty. All right, so we'll
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talk with her here in about forty five minutes on
Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station Scott Forties. Where You're
going News Radio eleven KFAB. I got a text yesterday
says I owed money for an unpaid highway toll and
I almost fell for it. Why because where the heck
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was I?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Oh, when you guys went to Kansas for your Thanksgiving
or something? No, do they have tolls down there?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes? Okay, but we didn't. I was somewhere here recently
where there was a toll. And anymore, they just you know,
flash a picture of the license plate and it goes
through the interwebs and it figures out who owns that
car and they mail you, you know, here's a ticket
for three dollars and sixty two cents or something. Where
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the heck was I? Anyway, we I still have never
seen that bill. And it said, like, you can go
on this website, put in your license plate and it'll
spit back out, you know, your toll, and you can
just pay it online.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So you did do this once?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
No, you did get a legitimate ticket once.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh yeah, my wife said it was in Lawrence. Oh
that's right. We were down there and we went see
Lawrence and yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah and habitual.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
No, I tried, I lost Scofford, that's right, I put
I put my habitual line steppers. Charlie Murphy said, I
put the license plate number on the website. I was
supposed to and it wasn't there. So I waited a
week and tried again. Wasn't there. Waited a week, tried again,
wasn't there. And my wife's texting me during the shows.
(37:11):
I remember it was. I said like all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't I remember. So I get a text yesterday.
Did I delete and spam the thing or did I
keep it? But it said this is and it was
the name of the company. When you're looking at the website,
this is the toll. These are the toll. People like
(37:31):
an official name and you have an unpaid toll. Click
this thing. And I was like, before before it dawned
on me, how would they know my phone number? I'm
just about to click on that link. And then it
said something like because if you don't pay this toll,
we could impound your car or you go to jail.
(37:52):
And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Like
all right, this seems super spamming, so I just deleted it.
Then I saw the story here out of ABC Today
that says, if you received a text message recently says
you owe money for an unpaid highway toll, You're not alone.
It's a scam.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Scam shocking.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, scammers are pretending to be tolling agencies from coast
to coast. They send text messages demanding money. Might even
show a dollar amount that you supposedly owe, and it's
probably just like a couple of bucks. You're like, all right,
I'd get these people off of my back. I'll get
on here and pay. Well, when you do that, now
you're giving out credit card information, bank account information. You
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click on the link and then they could have access
to your personal information and steal your identity. And they're
doing this now because they weren't able to do it
on TikTok for a couple of days this past weekend,
so now they got to do it through this. I
don't know if that's true, but it's basically it's volume.
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If you send a million people this text message, a
couple of them are gonna be like, oh, like I
almost did and click on the thing. These scammers, if
they're actually pretty good, some of them, if they put
forth the effort towards a job that they put forth
in trying to scam you, they'd probably be titans of business.
(39:24):
Did I tell you about the one I just about
I was actually going back and forth on Facebook with
the guy. It was a guy. Well, I'm gonna tell
you again, so this guy on Facebook didn't know him,
but we were Facebook friends. And that's the case a
lot for me on Facebook. I'm a very popular entertainer
here in the Omaha area. So as such, I have
(39:45):
literally singles and singles of people who are friended me
on Facebook. Anyway, this guy says, my dad moved into
assisted living and we're selling all of his stuff. And
it was a list of probably a dozen things, and
all of them were there were things I didn't need
any of them, and they were all priced at a,
(40:07):
you know, a decent price. Like here's a log splitter
for three thousand dollars. I'm like, gotta have that way,
I don't need a log splitter. But then there was
I'm an older, good pickup truck with pictures.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
That's right, I remember pricet.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Priced really really low, right, And that's the one that
everyone keys in on and they're like, I gotta get
this truck before someone buys it. My son just turned fifteen.
I want an old truck. Here's an old truck. So
I'm going back and forth to guy and he's like, yeah,
just you know, pay me a thousand dollars. It's venmo
me now and then you can come by and look
at it. This will reserve the truck for you. And
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I'm like, who is this guy? Scam?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You know what's sad about that story? He's done this
before and people will do it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, well it wasn't. Someone hacked his account. So that's
how it happened. Okay, So first yeah, law yeah, so
people see it. You get your face, yeah, you get
your Facebook hacked, and then you see like your son says, oh,
we just moved dad into assisted living and your dad
and you're like hey, and you're looking around, going is
(41:16):
that true? Like, oh wait, he was hacked?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Scam.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten kfab so glad to
have you with us on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station.
I can't believe it's been just about nine years since
a young woman just graduated from Bellevue University with a
bright future in potentially criminal justice ahead of her. She
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never got that opportunity. She was driving here in the
area when someone who was speeding going through red lights
and in this country illegally while driving drunk, hit her
vehicle and Sarah Route lost her life about nine years ago.
The individual who committed that crimes never been made to
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stand punishment for it, not in any kind of local
court of law, because he was allowed out on bond
even though he was a clear flight risk and took off.
We've never seen him again. Immediately, members of Congress said,
I can't believe that we don't have a law that
says you'd detain any illegal alien who commits a crime
resulting in death or serious injury. That became Sarah's Law.
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Almost got there under President Trump the first time, never
had a chance under President Biden, and now in the
first week of Trump's second term in office, Sarah's Raw.
Sarah's Law has been passed by both members of Congress
is going to President Trump for his signature. We welcome
back on here on eleven ten kfab Sarah's mom, Michelle
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Root to Nebraska's News, weather and traffic station. Thank you
very much for taking the time. I know this is
bittersweet for you.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Thank you for having me Scott. Yes, it is, and
as you mentioned, it'll be nine years for our family.
We feel her death date as January thirty first, because
that's when she was declared spring dead. However, on her
death certificate it is February fourth, but we acknowledge the
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thirty first, because that's when it happened.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
One week from today, nine years ago. We were talking
about this on the radio earlier, that the guy who
was accused in this crime, who was allowed to bond
out and take off, he's somewhere right now, on somewhere
on this planet. He knows what he did, and right
(43:51):
now he's I don't know what he's doing. How often
do you let your thoughts attach themselves to that individual,
and are you able to mix in any level of
sympathy or forgiveness or is it just nothing but anger?
Because if I were you, I wouldn't blame you if
you was nothing but.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Anger, And it is true, it's nothing but anger. And
my ex husband, Scott and I raised our kids to
be forgiving and good people. And I hear Sarah all
the time saying, Mom, don't be so angry, But when
it comes to my kids and to my family, I
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can't help but be angry at what happened. Her life
was cut short. He had no repercussions for it, He
had priors. If just one time that would have been disrupted.
My Sarah would still be here today. And so I
do try to let go of some of the anger,
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just because it isn't healthy to hold on to the anger.
And I do get that, but it does creep back
in all the time. I can control it a lot
better nine years later than I could a year ago,
but I am angry because there were so many failures
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to my daughter that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I hate to.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Put you back in that position from about nine years ago,
but your mind had to have been racing with the accident,
which at the time you were wondering if this was
going to take Sarah's life or what was going to happen.
And then this person was arrested and posted bond and
he's he's gone, and they're trying to explain to you, well, yeah,
we don't have a law that says that if you're
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in the country illegally and you commit a crime resulting
in death or serious injury, that you would automatically be detained.
And you've got to be trying to process with what
happened to your daughter and then trying to say, well,
what why, I mean he just killed or he seriously
injured at the time my daughter, Why wouldn't regardless of
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his immigration status, why wouldn't he be in jail right now?
Do you? How are you able to try and process
that as people are trying to explain this further injustice
to you and your family.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
I was, I am telling you, Scott, I was so
dumbfounded because again at the time that happened nine years ago,
I did not realize it wasn't a law. I just
again assumed that if you kill somebody or seriously hurt
somebody and you're in our country illegally, there is no
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chance of a bond. Boy, were we surprised. I'm telling you, Scott,
We've learned so much that we thought we knew about
our law that we found out unfortunately, because it happened
to our beautiful Sarah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I can't imagine the pain of what you're going through
there with what happened to your and then the insult
with being told like, oh, he's gone, don't worry, he'll
probably show up in court, which is incredibly laughable and
not funny. So exactly so, how was it then that
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either you got in contact with members of Congress or
people like Senator Jony Arnst of Iowa got in contact
with you and said this needs to change.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
It was one of Sarah's best friends, Dad, that reached out.
He had asked me if it was okay to send
a letter to all members, it didn't matter if you
were a Democrat, Republican, all the politicians, And as soon
as he did that, they all started reaching out. But
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I do have to tell you, Scott, at the time,
we were registered Democrats, and not one of our Democrats
credit politicians reached out to me. Every person that reached
out to me was of the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Why do you think that was I don't know.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
And I remember having a conversation with my dad, who
was a strong Democrat, and he's like, watch out hunt,
you know, with those Republicans, And I said, Dad, it's
a different day and age. Now not one of the
Democrats has reached out. It seems that there is a shift.
The Republicans are now for the working class and for
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the common people. So I honestly can't answer that question
as to why none of the Democrats reached out at
the time. I don't think it fit their agenda, you know,
I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Talking here with Michelle root. It was her daughter, Sarah,
who now all these years later, nine years after she
died here in the Omaha metro area has been honored
with Sarah's Law, which, as I said, now passed by Congress,
has got it codified here as it's signed by President
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Trump we think today and maybe he's already signed it
though right now. I know he's talking about FEMA. He's
in North Carolina right now, but he's expected to sign
this obviously. That says any undocumented immigrant who commits a
crime resulting in death or serious injury will be detained.
This is something As Sarah was killed in early in
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twenty sixteen, we had the presidential election of twenty sixteen underway.
Donald Trump was in town a lot, and I know
that you had a chance to meet with him. What
were those conversations like in these early months after you
lost your daughter.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
It was incredible, Scott, because I was not a support
of him, just from what I had seen on the
news and meeting with him that very first time in
May when he was in Omaha, I was it was
just different. It wasn't the man that he was portrayed
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to be. And unfortunately it took me meeting with him
to realize how he really was and is. And again
when we got the call that he wanted to meet
with us, we're thinking, he's just a candidate. He doesn't
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have to do this. We are just one family, a
middle class family that has lost their daughter, and he
wants to take the time to set and talk with us.
And that conversation and himself stating that if he became
president that he was going to do something about it,
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and then just asking the question of and I had
never been asked this before, tell me about Sarah, not
what I can read, tell me about her from.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
You, and.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
His eyes teared up. And I just can't say enough
about how much that meant to our family to have
someone in that position, even though he wasn't president at
the time, to take the time to want to listen
to us.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
He referenced her in I believe it was his speech
in twenty sixteen, after it was announced that he had
won the presidency. He referenced her that night in criticizing
what had happened with immigration policy under previous administrations and
what was about to change that was also coming up
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on nine years ago, Sarah's law languished in Congress during
those four years and of course four years under President Biden.
Even though Senators SaaS and Fisher and Grassley and Ernst
both Nebraska and Iowas senators were trying to get this done.
What happened during those four.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Years when Trump was in office.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Or Biden was when Trump was in office.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Well, he took part of Sarah's Law and made an
executive order when they couldn't get it passed.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
It's about time it finally got passed here the way
they Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
So, I mean, unfortunately it took Lake and Riley's life, Yeah,
to bring this to the forefront again.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I was just about to mention her as well, different
means of how Lake and Riley lost her life, but
a tragically similar situation is that we had someone who
never should have been in position to do something to
this young woman, and was because of our lax immigration
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policies and detention policies in this country that got passed
here in the first hours after Trump was sworn into
office this past Monday, and with that Sarah's Law as well.
Do you expect that you'll hear from President Trump on
the signing of this bill?
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, I am not sure. I know there has been
some talk going back and forth with others that are
in DC right now about that, and like I said,
I am just thrilled it got passed. I don't need
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to be there when it's signed. I don't need to
get a call from him. This is about Sarah and
it is not about me being at those things. It
is hard and it is an honor to be invited
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to those things, but it doesn't bring my beautiful girl back,
And it's that part is not important for me. And
I don't mean any disrespect to any study that has
worked on Sarah's law and getting this passed, and I
don't mean any disrespect of saying I could care less
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if I'm invited at all. I just that part is
not important to me. The important part to me was
getting something done to help prevent this from happening to
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
And Sarah, as you know, was beautiful. Obviously I didn't
get a chance to know her, but I think we
all know someone like her. I mean, she looks a
lot like like a very longtime dear friend of mine
that when she smiles, and it looked like she was
smiling all the time, her eyes would completely light up
and her smile was so big you could see her soul.
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It just beautiful. Michelle, thank you very much for your
strength during this entire time. And even though it seemed
like maybe sometimes people had forgotten about Sarah and Sarah's Law,
we saw this week here that our members of Congress
never forgot. Senator Ernst was all too happy to bring
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this back up, get it past, and now it's on
its way to President Trump for his signature. As I
said a bittersweet time here this week, our thoughts are
with you all the time. Michelle, Thank you very much
for taking the time here for us this morning.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Thank you Scott God bless you.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven our news radio eleven
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Scott Vordy, Garry Sladamyer, Jim Rose, Lucy Chapman and Compedy
k have AB's Morning News and uh Scott Bore. He
stops by as he does every morning. Good morning, Scott. Yeah,
I love it when you stop by ahead of your show.
Now you were a little ahead or a little behind Calvin.
You never got to show him how it works on
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the football field when you were starring for Ralston High School.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I love my life.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
He was a little older than you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I love my lifetime of experience with Calvin Jones. So
it was at my friend Jordan's house that early November
when Calvin decided to run for eight miles against KU
that day ninety four were watching two game. Yeah, we
were watching that game and just couldn't believe it. Who
I know, who is this kid who was just a
few years older than us at that time. I ended
(00:46):
up working with Calvin. Oh you know, Jim Rose is
not the only member of this team who was on
sports nightly across the Husker Sports Network.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He was on with Warren Swayin for a brief Oh yeah,
that's right there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And so I have a perspective on Calvin. You know,
I'll share that with you now. I didn't know how
much to talk about this during my show, but Calvin
was one of a few former Huskers who after they
got done playing football. You know, the skills that you
learn toting a football don't exactly translate themselves immediately to Oh,
(01:21):
I got to go find a job, I got to
do something. And Calvin, I say this because of what
I'm going to say after this. Calvin was pretty entitled
after his time his few years in the NFL, and
he was not real happy with Nebraska football fans and
once told me said, they have they cheer for you
(01:41):
on Saturday, but when you need them on Monday, where
are they. Yeah, he was not real happy about it.
I think he felt like, I scored a lot of
touchdowns for this team. Someone just got to give me something.
And you know, Calvin was always really nice and fun
to be around, but when it came to that conversation,
he was pretty entitled about it. He struggled with that
(02:03):
for a few years. The last time I saw him
was a few years ago when he was once again
and I think coach Osborne getting him involved in the
teammates movement. Calvin Jones was one of the original former
Huskers who really got involved in the Teammates movement. Once
Calvin started giving of himself and seeing the look on
people's faces and they're like, hey, Calvin Jones is here.
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I mean, he realized how much Husker Nation loved him,
how much he loved being a part of this family,
and he would jump at the chance to do anything.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And the last time I saw him was at a
charity event with the Nebraska Husker Salute the Troops, gold
Star Families and all the rest of this stuff. Talked
to him for a little bit, big smile on his face.
Could not have been more content and happy in his
life and loved it. And I thought, I'm so glad
(02:56):
that Calvin now has this perspective, because he didn't. He
didn't have it well.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
As Jem and I were talking about Scott.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that is an outstanding appraisals. Never tell co
workers I had a dream about you last night, because
it is the creepiest thing you could say. But since
I have no problem with that, I just told Lucy
I had a dream about you last night. And I
have the worst dreams of anyone, not bad in that,
(03:27):
like I had a dream that you were gonna have
your eyes pecked out by this goat bird hybrid things.
You know, It wasn't anything like that. I just they're
just boring. They're just boring dreams. Everyone else has dreams
like that, are all you know of a prurient nature
and stuff like that. Occasionally that kind of thing pops
(03:47):
up in my dreams, but it's always me walking in
on someone else doing it. I just walk in. I
just walk in, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, and
then I leave. I have the most boring, ridiculous dreams.
So my dream about Lucy was that you were just
walking up and down the hall runway style, wearing jeans
and a shirt like you have on today, and that
(04:10):
you were wearing high heels, like ridiculously tall spiked high heels.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know what that's from, because I have said before,
the higher your heel, the thinner you look. And so
I'm gonna start wearing stilts.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
See. I woke up from this dream thinking that was weird,
and then I thought like, if I tell Lucy that
she's gonna make some comment about her weight.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And I did not let you down.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
My dreams has come true.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm wondering if this is kind of something that's happening
with everybody, because I have had some of the most
bizarre dreams. And when you told me that, I said, oh,
my gosh, because I had a dream last night that
I was roller skating. Oh but that's not even what
was It was terrible because I got home and I
took my my roller skates off, but they were actually
(05:02):
there were some shoes laying there, and all of a sudden,
one of the shoes by itself just came rolling at me,
and I picked it up and I looked at it
and there was a wheel underneath it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, it's one of those kids shoes that they wore
probably twenty years ago, that had the wheels on there.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
No, this was a regular pair of shoes that even
in my dream I recognized these were my shoes.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like that Stephen King movie where the cars and trucks
come to life.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Your shoe like Carrie, No, not Carrie, Carrie, the other one.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I can't think of the title either. I've actually never
seen it, but it's like that Christine. Yes, Christine, that's right.
I was like, yeah, I think a girl's name does,
So your shoe did it come to life and wheel
towards you to potentially kill you.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I don't know. Here's the thing, though, I knew that
it was of an evil nature. How about that, I
knew it was not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
If your shoe moves towards you without any outside force,
that's a haunted shoe.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, yeah, how did it get the wheel? I mean
the wheel was like attached to it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's what I'm talking about. Are other people having weird dreams,
because that's not the weirdest dream I've had lately.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I forgot that you're a bit of a dream interpreter.
We established that almost twenty years ago when we started
doing this radio show, and then we kind of forgot
about it. Like Daphne in Fraser.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Hmmm, that's right, and she yeah, she did that.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
She It started off where Dafty's character was a little
bit psychic. Oh, and that was and that was kind
of part of the bit until they realized, like, ah,
that's dumb, We're going to completely ignore that for the
rest of the time. We established pretty early on like oh,
Lucy's a bit of a dream interpreter, and then we
kind of ignored it for the better part of the
(07:03):
last That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm used to being.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Seventeen years No, I don't think that's a fair statement.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't ignore you the same way all the time.
I find new and interesting ways to completely ignore you. Fact,
we might have to have some lucy dream interpretation later
in today's show.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't want it to get like because I am
a hundred percent not with the psychic garbage. Sorry, I'm sorry,
but I'll stand by that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Did you know that Psychic Susanna passed away last summer?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Did not know that really quietly.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I didn't find out about it for months until
I was thinking, like, I haven't gotten out of the
blue text from our friend Psychic Susannah in a while.
And I don't know where I thought to look or whatever,
but I just I felt a connection that I needed
to check up on her. And I checked up on
her and she was gone. Psychic Susanna passed away last summer.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That is very sad.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We hadn't noted that here on this radio station. She
did a Sunday night show. She did a live Sunday
night show for us for a couple of years. This
goes back ten to fifteen years ago, and she would
just sit in here for a couple of hours and
take live phone calls from around the country of people.
(08:42):
And basically she didn't need to know, like what did
you dream about? Tell me about you? You would just
call up and go, I'm Lucy, and I was born
in nineteen eighty six, if that's all right. And Lucy's like,
if you're gonna lie about my age, can you make
me even younger?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I'm living that I was born in nineteen ninety four.
And psychic exanta, just like a you just take over
and give really specific comments like psychic interpretations to callers.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And that is what I mean when I say I
do not want to get go down that road, because
I have one reject that when I say that, I
first of all don't say I interpret dreams. But when
you dream, there is usually a reason behind something that
you have dreamt. Have you ever dreamt about somebody that
you haven't seen or heard from in years, but then
(09:37):
you think about it and you heard that person's name
or some tiny little aspect it gets into your brain.
So that's what I'm talking about. It's just stuff that
you can relate to what is actually going on in
your life because you take all of that stuff with
you when you go to sleep, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I wanted to bring that up about psychic Susannah,
after you said I don't believe in that psychic garbage,
because I think that there are people who they don't
know about whether or not there's a psychic realm that
these people exist in. They only know if someone tells
them something that they don't want to hear, and they
hear it, they automatically don't like that person or anything
(10:14):
they just told you. It doesn't matter where it came from.
It's like, I don't want to hear it now. At
the same token, if someone tells you something that you
want to hear, you're like, oh, I like this, tell
me more.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I disagree.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I believe in this kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, I disagree usually what.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I found about people. But you're you're very unusual.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
People well, first of all, and psychic Suzanne was one
of them, Susannah. Susannah, she actually did try to tell
me something once.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You didn't want to hear it. I did not anything
to do with it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Didn't care.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Some people don't. I did because I thought it'd be,
you know, fun and entertaining radio when she would pop
on here once in a while, and then she would
tell me things that sometimes I didn't want to hear them,
and they were like so accurate that I was like,
all right, I don't let's let's take a call, let's
get away from this. I'd like, how in the world.
(11:06):
And it's not like one of those things where you
call a nine seven, six, five ninety nine a minute
number at three am and they tell you like you're lonely? Yes,
how did you know you have problems with money? Oh
my gosh, how did you know that?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It wasn't one of those things. But yeah, Psychic Susannah
was something else. The same moment. We had I don't know,
business partners or advertising partners, same thing, but we had
we had like people in suits here in the building,
and I think Psychic Susannah just got done with my show,
(11:44):
and I'm walking her out the door as these fancy people,
including this woman, are coming in and completely unprovoked Psychic Susannah,
who was this little like umpah lumpa sized larger than
life Sicilian woman who had no problem just erupting at
the mouth anytime she wanted to seize. This person come
(12:08):
in and just completely unprovoked, no introduction, no anything. This
little woman just goes right up to her and goes,
you're pregnant. And this woman had a look. I think
we lost that business. You know, there were a lot
of people. Our sales manager at the time, Marnie was
really really not happy about I'm trying to grab Susannah
(12:31):
Tucker under my arm like a football and get her
out of the building. What I always wanted to know, though,
was was that woman pregnant that you never found out?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
And that's one of the things that are Would you
do that about politics? Would you walk up to a
complete stranger and say, aren't you glad? Or aren't you upset?
Of course not, because you never know when you're going
to If she did do that to me and I
was polite, she was and I just turned around a
walk to wait.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But she was something else. But I'll tell you one
of the first text messages I got every Christmas morning
psychic Susannah, Merry Christmas, sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I'm not disparaging her or her personally.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You're dancing on her grave.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to talk about what happened in Lincoln yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I do, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They had a bunch of people down there protesting against
this potential law here in Nebraska. We get a bill,
there's going to be a debate on the bill, and
it's going to be whiny, cry baby people and sometimes
literal cry babies. The bill is a plan to change
where you could be prosecuted as young as eleven years old.
(13:47):
And people go, oh, eleven year olds, these are just babies.
They don't know what they're doing, and what are you
going to do? You are the locked people in cages
because of some graffiti or they swiped a candy bar
or a sucker, something like that. No, we've seen kids
as young as eleven twelve years old committing incredibly violent
(14:09):
and adult crimes. They know what they're doing. They're evil.
I'm not saying that they came up with it on
their own. Not all these kids are chucky, but some
of them are. And a lot of them the old
they're horrible. Older brothers or friends or whatever bring these
kids in there and they have these kids pull the
trigger because they know, all right, he's not going to
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get in much trouble and I don't want to go
to jail, so we'll just have him do it. And
it becomes like this horrible violent life serial commercial. Hey, hey,
let's go rob that person. Let's go stick a gun
in that guy's face. I don't want to do it.
I'm not going back to jail. Well, you know, he'll
do it. Mikey. Hey, Mikey, And they put a gun
in Mikey's hand and he goes and rather than enjoys
(14:54):
a bowl of cinnamon Life, which, now that I think
about it, that's a really good cereal and I should
have some more of that in my life, instead goes
and sticks a gun in someone's face. Sometimes he shoots
the person and then the police come and go Mikey.
He's like, I didn't know. I'm living and nothing happens,
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and everyone knows that's the deal. And when they set
all this up, people argued like, well, it's not like
eleven year olds are going to be grabbing guns and
killing people and stealing cars and attacking women. This is
the same mindset that happens all the time in Nebraska.
The most infamous of all these examples is when they
decided to allow safe havening your kids up to the
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age of eighteen. The idea was is that if you
have a baby and then you look at it and go,
I changed my mind. You can just drop them off
at a fire station or like Blockbuster video. You put
him in the rewind them and then thank you, and
then put them in the slot. And I needed that,
and then there's no repercussions. It's like, well, we have
(16:02):
a baby and it's not a big deal. And then
Ernie Chambers, in one of the funniest things he ever did,
said all right, if you're gonna allow that for kids
as young as, you know, a few weeks old or
up to a year or something, then why not do
it for any minor child. And the argument was, it's
not like people are gonna come from around the country
and drop off their maladjusted teenagers. And that's exactly what
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they did. We were having We had a brand new
tourism here in Nebraska where people came from all around
the country with their snotty little fourteen year olds and said,
and we're in Omaha. Here he is, and they'd leave
him and then they would drive away. It was heartbreaking
and kind of hilarious, and so they had to go
(16:47):
back to the legislature and change the laws so people
stopped dropping off they're maladjusted teenagers. We had a whole
bit about it, the maladjusted hospital drop teenagers bit. I
remember so same thing here with juvenile crime. They said,
all right, well, at some point we got to do
like an age cut off where people wouldn't be charged
as adults. And they're like, I don't know, how about eleven.
(17:09):
It's not like an eleven year old is going to
do them. And that's exactly what's been happening. So you
had these protesters in Lincoln yesterday. Here's a seventeen year
old kid who is talking out there yesterday. Young man said,
we all deserve a chance to learn from our mistakes
and not be punished for life. Ok, what mistake? What
are we talking about? You stole some bread? What is this?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Les miserab what happened here? Or did you? Did you
murder somebody? Which we've seen. So this was yesterday in
the unicameral. Now, admittedly, the ages of the individuals I'm
going to give here aren't eleven years old, but I
guarantee the kids involved in these three stories just pulled
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from yesterday's news across the state. They were no prizes
at eleven and we had plenty of opportunity to do
something meaningful in their lives before they got to this point. Story.
Let's see here Waverley. Two Waverley teenagers are in custody
after being accused of repeatedly assaulting an eleven year old girl.
(18:21):
The Lancaster County Sheriff's Office arrested two fourteen year olds
and one seventeen year old boy. And when I say assaulting,
you know what I mean. Scott's Bluff announced the arrest
of two teenagers in connection with the death of a
fifteen year old boy this week. This is a seventeen
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and a sixteen year old boy, each charged in connection
with the death of a fifteen year old kid named
Wyatt reeb who was stabbed in the chest in Scott's
Bluff on Monday. Again, those arrested seventeen and sixteen. And
then you've got this that happened this week in Lincoln.
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And because of the details in this one, I just
get really sad when I read about this. It's a
nine year old kid who's trying to hang out with
his old I don't know his older brothers or some
older friends that he knows, and he's hanging out with
them at the mall on Monday. Monday was Martin Luther
(19:24):
King Day, so they were off school. I think this
happened on Monday. Yeah, on Monday. So they're all hanging
out at the Gateway mall and Lincoln and this nine
year old kid, they said, he was trying to, you know,
he's following a group of kids he knew, trying to
kind of hang out with them, and they were watching
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a video on someone's phone and he's trying to watch
the video and a fifteen year old boy picks up
this nine year old kid and body slams him to
the hard tile floor of the mall so hard that
this nine year old kid was treated for a concussion
and a broken collar bone. Also had a cut that
required six stitches. Video surveillance showed him landing on his
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head and shoulder, while the fifteen year old teenager who
did this smiled and ran from the scene. When police
grabbed him later, he just said, I was just joking
around in I was just I was just messing with him.
Oh did he think that I was serious when I
body slammed him? On his head, nine year old kid.
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All these stories are horrible. They all involve young people
and it shows you that when Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson,
who has talked about this issue a number of times
over the years, on this program, he says, since two
thousand and seven, we've seen an over fifteen hundred percent
increase in repeat felonious juvenile crimes. These are repeat felony
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crimes committed by juveniles, high risk repeat juvenile offender. Because
we don't do anything real meaningful in terms of punishment.
Sometimes they go to like this unlocked group home where
they cut off an ankle monitor and they leave and
then they commit more crimes. And he says, since two
thousand and seven, we've seen an increase in repeat felony
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juvenile crimes over one thousand, five hundred percent. So we
have law enforcement going to the capitol to say this
bill where you can charge right now, the current law
is thirteen to where a kid can be detained for
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a really bad adult crime. They want to change that
from thirteen to eleven and would also lower the age
of juvenile could be charged as an adult from the
current fourteen down to twelve years old. So you have
law enforcements saying this is necessary, and then you've got
these alleged community leaders, members of the unicamer and say
(22:02):
we don't want to put kids in cages. Tell that
to the mom of Alan Reid, who was sitting there
having breakfast with his mom a couple of years ago,
and a kid eleven, twelve thirteen, I forget. However, many
years old under fourteen goes in there and shoots him
in the face to try and steal a couple of
bucks with another friend about the same age waiting outside,
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and to get away car. So that's what they did yesterday,
Lucy in Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
As long as you continue to let the Internet and
all its role models quote unquote raise your kids, as
long as you're doing that, this problem is never going away.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I have an email here from Andy says, Hey, Scott,
you guys were talking about psychics and dreams. I had
a dream a couple of years ago. But a teacher
from high school. Last time I saw him was at
my wedding. Hands down the only reason I graduated. He
was the only reason I did anything, Probably the largest
influence on my life other than my family. A couple
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of years ago, I walk up in the middle of
the night and had a vivid dream of him explaining
something at my house in relation to an issue I
was having that week. I pushed it off, but a
couple days later I went to call him directly and
found out he had died exactly one hour before I
woke up that night. I don't know if I believe
(23:29):
it's a psychic connection, but it's amazing how things in
your dreams can be connected to real life events and
the connections we have physically and non physically with people
who influence our lives. Lucy, do you believe now Andy
was visited? That's what my wife would say, you were visited.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Do I believe he was visited or that he believes
that it was weird thing? Yeah? But I don't believe
he was visited by his teacher.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah he was, well I did. Do you think you
can just explain everything?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Who gave you that power?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You can't explain everything. To say, we were talking about
our friend, Psychic Susannah, who was a frequent guest on
this show, did a Sunday night show on this radio
station and had passed away last year. And I told
a story about how psychic Susannah had absolutely no filter
on her and just go up to random people and
(24:25):
be like, do you know someone named Mark? And they're like,
who is this? This little woman? This a little oop
a loopa of a Sicilian woman. And so I told
a story about her assaulting some clients here with with
some she went up to some woman she didn't know.
It's like, you're pregnant and this woman's like, who are you?
(24:46):
So then Gary Sadlemeyer, he hosts the morning drive program
on this radio station, kfab's Morning News with Gary Sadlemeyer,
I've heard of it. And he came back into the
studio and said, I've got a story about psychic.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I don't want to interrupt. By that time, it's Friday,
it is well, I just remember I hadn't heard that
she died.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
She was a character, yes, and and yeah, you're right,
she would just random text once or twice a year.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, and she but a lot of people know her
because she would do these psychic readings and bars and
restaurants around town all the time. And she was an
institution in this time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And uh, and there were time or two. I thought
she should find an institution. But be that is it me.
I'm with Lucy on the on the psychic stuff, but whatever. Anyway,
you don't exactly believe. I think it's hokum. But the
story is the first time I met Suzannah good lord,
I'm thinking late eighties, maybe some were in there and
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our midday host had her on.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Who was that?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I thinking it was George Woods. Okay, it's hard, it's
a long time ago. Anyway, Juicy George. Yeah, and George
Woods would come on.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got some juicy hot topics for you, so we
started calling him Juicy George.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And I you knew George and I had I had
to bring I had to bring him something into the
studio from the news or my can't it doesn't matter.
So I was just gonna hand him this and leave
and he's talking to Susanna. Oh sit down, okay, So
I sat down. Well, I had my wedding ring on
and my coffee cup that day was from remember when
(26:29):
there used to be the All Canada show Down at
the at the time of the Civic auditoriyment. It was
a hunting and fishing you know, all these Canadian resorts
and stuff. That's what it was called. There was one
of those, and and the silhouette on this coffee mug
We're Canada geese, and the sunset and maybe a guy
with a shotgun on him.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Anyway, so Doug, so I said.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I sit down, and she's and and George says, Susannah,
I'd like it, McGary, I said, I Susanna. She said,
you are in a deep relationship. You're you like the outdoors.
And and I said, what were what were your first clues?
You know, could it be my wedding ring? Oh? I
(27:12):
didn't notice? Yeah, right, you didn't notice. Huh. And we
we got to be friends, and you know, but I
do think this. I'm not one hundred percent sure of this,
but I I'm about ninety percent sure that she believed it. Oh,
I think she was dead serious.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, yes she was. And like I mean, you find
someone like each Aro Suzuki, one of the greatest baseball
players of all time, Well he can get a hit
every time he was at bad you know, so sometimes
it seems like I know, so psychics, Susannah. You know
you're gonna have some swings and missus and or that story.
(27:52):
But you know how they explain that away, right, the psychics.
So let's say they come to you and go, you
just came into a bunch of money or something like that,
and you're like, no, I didn't. Well you're going to know.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And so Lucy and I were just chatting about this.
I you know, I say, I think it's hokum. I
don't discount or dismiss the possibility that there are some
people that may have a gift of some kind because
there are too many interesting stories. But for the folks
who do this for a lifting, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Some are better than move on. Yeah, better than others.
All right, thank you, Scott. So you guys were talking
a lot about Calvin Jones the school. Yeah, man, Calvin
one of the greatest running backs out of Nebraska. And
one thing that I didn't talk about when I was
in here with you and Jim talking about it was
just how huge it was growing up here in Omaha
(28:47):
throughout the especially like mid eighties, throughout throughout all the nineties,
to where everyone in town was trying to get a
ticket to go see an Omaha Central football game because
of the pipeline and running yes Liota's flowers. Then you
had Calvin Jones. Then you had Aman Green. Well, I
think there was someone else, Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think it was before Calvin.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Keith Jones, En Zone Jones, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And then Calvin and then I'm on David Horn, I.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Mean well and Aman Green. By the time we played
Omaha Central there in the early to mid nineties, Aman
Green wasn't even the Omaha Central running back we were worried about.
They had another guy named Damian Morrow. Really yeah, and
he was he was the stud in Omaha Central, and
so they just handed off to both these guys. It
turns out they both had no problem running over the
(29:37):
Ralston Ram defense. We tried to put up against those guys,
but Marrow went on to play i think at Wayne
State and we never heard aman Green's name ever again.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Right, I'll say you the athletes that have come out
of this town. Yeah, if you want to wow somebody sometime,
if they start on honors and so on, how likely
is it that we're about a million now they Omaha Metro,
the city of this size, would have produced in two
(30:09):
of our major sports, arguably the best ever. Well in baseball,
you got to be talking pitching and can't be just
all baseball Bob Gibson and Gail Sayers. Is they're in
the conversation with the top five in every conversation. Yeah,
right out of Omaha, Nebraska, you know. I mean, it's incredible,
and not to mention the ones that you hit that
(30:30):
were lesser lights that were incredible. I had a friend
tell me after Gail Sayers got famous at KU that
he said, my buddy came home from practice. He said,
you think Gail Sayers is fast? You ought to see
his brother. Do you ever know Roger Sayers? Or I
believe it's still with us, wonderful guy. I mean that
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that well, you ought to You ought to get Dirk
Channeling's twenty fourth and Glory. It's amazing read. It really
is about about the confluence of of that generation of
athletes and ones that followed, like Calvin and those great
high school backs out of Central. It is an amazing,
amazing athletes city.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
When I was growing up, the only thing I knew
about Gail Sayers was a great Chicago Bear and the
movie Brian's Song. And then Bob Gibson, which, as you
have pointed out several times as a character flaw of mine.
I'm not a big baseball guy. But the next thing
you're gonna tell me I don't like bacon. No, I
love bacon, don played of whatever. Yeah, he's a big fan.
(31:35):
When I had Chuck D a Public Enemy on the
show years ago, the first thing he said, He's like, Omaha,
Bob Gibson's from there, and we started talking about baseball,
and Bob Gibson loved you know. I know you're a
big Chuck D Public Enemy fan. Do you want to
do one of those songs for us right now?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I would, But yeah, I gotta go back, flush my
water pick and get ready for the weekend. I'm busy,
very busy.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, I'll tell you and you that I was going
to spend a moment in this segment, and here WI
would be the moment talking about how there was a bittersweet,
good piece of news that came out yesterday and that
was Sarah's Law. We were just talking about Sarah Root
the other day. Sarah's law has finally passed in Congress.
Today President Trump is expected to sign Sarah's Law. While
(32:20):
we were talking there, I got a text from Sarah's mom, Michelle,
and she's going to come on the radio. What this
hearing about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
One of the greatest scandals of all time, yeah, in
this area, is that that guy was allowed to just
go to just leave. And it's never been heard of since.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This guy driving drunk in our nation, illegally driving drunk,
speeding through a red light, kills This poor girl just
graduated from Bellevue University with the bright future and criminal
justice ahead of her. Sarah Root incredible and she just
graduated that day. That was about nine years ago now,
And it took that long. Yeah, it took that long
(32:59):
to have a law that says if you're in the
country illegally that and you commit a crime that results
in death or serious injury of someone, that you should
be detained. You shouldn't already be a flight rest and
be allowed to post bond and take off. And we've
never seen that guy. No one know that guy's alive
somewhere as when Mahea is the guy's name, he's somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Females Salvador as I recall any probably back down there somewhere, and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's he's alive somewhere right now. He's sitting there knowing
exactly what he did and knowing that he's never had
to stand trial or be punished for it. And what
do you think he's doing today? He's got to live.
He's living with that every single day, and I don't
know that he cares. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Unlikely.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Do you think what do you think they'll ever catch
him bring him back here?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well you would. You would need somebody to know, which
is possible. His name gets mentioned in broadcast outlets and
newspapers and stuff once in a while. It would take
somebody who knows, who knows somebody who knows somebody. It
is possible, but it doesn't seem likely because he's probably
just vanished.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Do you want to do Do you want to do
any more radio this morning? You can hang out here
with us till eleven. We can blow out Clay and
Buck and we talk all day.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We can't blow out clan Buck. I've had the look.
I was program director for a while before. You you know, yes,
you know what happens when you don't put Rush or
clan Buck the pitchforks and the torches. You go marching
up Underwood Avenue. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm so glad that you were the person who took
the phone calls at the time when we had some
like Nebraska baseball team was so bad they weren't even
going to be in the post. You know, the Big
ten or the Big eight. You know, we carry the game.
We had to carry a baseball game. Nebraska is getting beat.
It was basketball too. Yeah, first of all, there was
(34:49):
like a rain delay and then and so now we've
got we're preempted Rush Limbaugh on this radio station, and
people will call you, go, what in the well are
you doing? You got the rained away on the radio
and a lot of fun man.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, all right, well you try not to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Gary Sadelemeyer, host KAB this morning News, and thank you
very much for hanging out here and sharing the psychic
Susannah story, my pleasure and everything else we just talked about.
As I mentioned Michelle Root, Sarah's mom just sent me
a text and said that she will be on the
radio here at oh ten thirty. All right, so we'll
(35:29):
talk with her here in about forty five minutes on
Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station Scott Forties. Where You're
going News Radio eleven KFAB. I got a text yesterday
says I owed money for an unpaid highway toll and
I almost fell for it. Why because where the heck
(35:50):
was I?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Oh, when you guys went to Kansas for your Thanksgiving
or something? No, do they have tolls down there?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes? Okay, but we didn't. I was somewhere here recently
where there was a toll. And anymore, they just you know,
flash a picture of the license plate and it goes
through the interwebs and it figures out who owns that
car and they mail you, you know, here's a ticket
for three dollars and sixty two cents or something. Where
(36:21):
the heck was I? Anyway, we I still have never
seen that bill. And it said, like, you can go
on this website, put in your license plate and it'll
spit back out, you know, your toll, and you can
just pay it online.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So you did do this once?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
No, you did get a legitimate ticket once.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh yeah, my wife said it was in Lawrence. Oh
that's right. We were down there and we went see
Lawrence and yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah and habitual.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
No, I tried, I lost Scofford, that's right, I put
I put my habitual line steppers. Charlie Murphy said, I
put the license plate number on the website. I was
supposed to and it wasn't there. So I waited a
week and tried again. Wasn't there. Waited a week, tried again,
wasn't there. And my wife's texting me during the shows.
(37:11):
I remember it was. I said like all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't I remember. So I get a text yesterday.
Did I delete and spam the thing or did I
keep it? But it said this is and it was
the name of the company. When you're looking at the website,
this is the toll. These are the toll. People like
(37:31):
an official name and you have an unpaid toll. Click
this thing. And I was like, before before it dawned
on me, how would they know my phone number? I'm
just about to click on that link. And then it
said something like because if you don't pay this toll,
we could impound your car or you go to jail.
(37:52):
And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Like
all right, this seems super spamming, so I just deleted it.
Then I saw the story here out of ABC Today
that says, if you received a text message recently says
you owe money for an unpaid highway toll, You're not alone.
It's a scam.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Scam shocking.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, scammers are pretending to be tolling agencies from coast
to coast. They send text messages demanding money. Might even
show a dollar amount that you supposedly owe, and it's
probably just like a couple of bucks. You're like, all right,
I'd get these people off of my back. I'll get
on here and pay. Well, when you do that, now
you're giving out credit card information, bank account information. You
(38:38):
click on the link and then they could have access
to your personal information and steal your identity. And they're
doing this now because they weren't able to do it
on TikTok for a couple of days this past weekend,
so now they got to do it through this. I
don't know if that's true, but it's basically it's volume.
(39:00):
If you send a million people this text message, a
couple of them are gonna be like, oh, like I
almost did and click on the thing. These scammers, if
they're actually pretty good, some of them, if they put
forth the effort towards a job that they put forth
in trying to scam you, they'd probably be titans of business.
(39:24):
Did I tell you about the one I just about
I was actually going back and forth on Facebook with
the guy. It was a guy. Well, I'm gonna tell
you again, so this guy on Facebook didn't know him,
but we were Facebook friends. And that's the case a
lot for me on Facebook. I'm a very popular entertainer
here in the Omaha area. So as such, I have
(39:45):
literally singles and singles of people who are friended me
on Facebook. Anyway, this guy says, my dad moved into
assisted living and we're selling all of his stuff. And
it was a list of probably a dozen things, and
all of them were there were things I didn't need
any of them, and they were all priced at a,
(40:07):
you know, a decent price. Like here's a log splitter
for three thousand dollars. I'm like, gotta have that way,
I don't need a log splitter. But then there was
I'm an older, good pickup truck with pictures.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
That's right, I remember pricet.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Priced really really low, right, And that's the one that
everyone keys in on and they're like, I gotta get
this truck before someone buys it. My son just turned fifteen.
I want an old truck. Here's an old truck. So
I'm going back and forth to guy and he's like, yeah,
just you know, pay me a thousand dollars. It's venmo
me now and then you can come by and look
at it. This will reserve the truck for you. And
(40:44):
I'm like, who is this guy? Scam?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You know what's sad about that story? He's done this
before and people will do it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, well it wasn't. Someone hacked his account. So that's
how it happened. Okay, So first yeah, law yeah, so
people see it. You get your face, yeah, you get
your Facebook hacked, and then you see like your son says, oh,
we just moved dad into assisted living and your dad
and you're like hey, and you're looking around, going is
(41:16):
that true? Like, oh wait, he was hacked?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Scam.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten kfab so glad to
have you with us on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station.
I can't believe it's been just about nine years since
a young woman just graduated from Bellevue University with a
bright future in potentially criminal justice ahead of her. She
(41:43):
never got that opportunity. She was driving here in the
area when someone who was speeding going through red lights
and in this country illegally while driving drunk, hit her
vehicle and Sarah Route lost her life about nine years ago.
The individual who committed that crimes never been made to
(42:07):
stand punishment for it, not in any kind of local
court of law, because he was allowed out on bond
even though he was a clear flight risk and took off.
We've never seen him again. Immediately, members of Congress said,
I can't believe that we don't have a law that
says you'd detain any illegal alien who commits a crime
resulting in death or serious injury. That became Sarah's Law.
(42:32):
Almost got there under President Trump the first time, never
had a chance under President Biden, and now in the
first week of Trump's second term in office, Sarah's Raw.
Sarah's Law has been passed by both members of Congress
is going to President Trump for his signature. We welcome
back on here on eleven ten kfab Sarah's mom, Michelle
(42:54):
Root to Nebraska's News, weather and traffic station. Thank you
very much for taking the time. I know this is
bittersweet for you.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Thank you for having me Scott. Yes, it is, and
as you mentioned, it'll be nine years for our family.
We feel her death date as January thirty first, because
that's when she was declared spring dead. However, on her
death certificate it is February fourth, but we acknowledge the
(43:24):
thirty first, because that's when it happened.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
One week from today, nine years ago. We were talking
about this on the radio earlier, that the guy who
was accused in this crime, who was allowed to bond
out and take off, he's somewhere right now, on somewhere
on this planet. He knows what he did, and right
(43:51):
now he's I don't know what he's doing. How often
do you let your thoughts attach themselves to that individual,
and are you able to mix in any level of
sympathy or forgiveness or is it just nothing but anger?
Because if I were you, I wouldn't blame you if
you was nothing but.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Anger, And it is true, it's nothing but anger. And
my ex husband, Scott and I raised our kids to
be forgiving and good people. And I hear Sarah all
the time saying, Mom, don't be so angry, But when
it comes to my kids and to my family, I
(44:33):
can't help but be angry at what happened. Her life
was cut short. He had no repercussions for it, He
had priors. If just one time that would have been disrupted.
My Sarah would still be here today. And so I
do try to let go of some of the anger,
(44:54):
just because it isn't healthy to hold on to the anger.
And I do get that, but it does creep back
in all the time. I can control it a lot
better nine years later than I could a year ago,
but I am angry because there were so many failures
(45:16):
to my daughter that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I hate to.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Put you back in that position from about nine years ago,
but your mind had to have been racing with the accident,
which at the time you were wondering if this was
going to take Sarah's life or what was going to happen.
And then this person was arrested and posted bond and
he's he's gone, and they're trying to explain to you, well, yeah,
we don't have a law that says that if you're
(45:42):
in the country illegally and you commit a crime resulting
in death or serious injury, that you would automatically be detained.
And you've got to be trying to process with what
happened to your daughter and then trying to say, well,
what why, I mean he just killed or he seriously
injured at the time my daughter, Why wouldn't regardless of
(46:02):
his immigration status, why wouldn't he be in jail right now?
Do you? How are you able to try and process
that as people are trying to explain this further injustice
to you and your family.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
I was, I am telling you, Scott, I was so
dumbfounded because again at the time that happened nine years ago,
I did not realize it wasn't a law. I just
again assumed that if you kill somebody or seriously hurt
somebody and you're in our country illegally, there is no
(46:37):
chance of a bond. Boy, were we surprised. I'm telling you, Scott,
We've learned so much that we thought we knew about
our law that we found out unfortunately, because it happened
to our beautiful Sarah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I can't imagine the pain of what you're going through
there with what happened to your and then the insult
with being told like, oh, he's gone, don't worry, he'll
probably show up in court, which is incredibly laughable and
not funny. So exactly so, how was it then that
(47:18):
either you got in contact with members of Congress or
people like Senator Jony Arnst of Iowa got in contact
with you and said this needs to change.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
It was one of Sarah's best friends, Dad, that reached out.
He had asked me if it was okay to send
a letter to all members, it didn't matter if you
were a Democrat, Republican, all the politicians, And as soon
as he did that, they all started reaching out. But
(47:51):
I do have to tell you, Scott, at the time,
we were registered Democrats, and not one of our Democrats
credit politicians reached out to me. Every person that reached
out to me was of the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Why do you think that was I don't know.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
And I remember having a conversation with my dad, who
was a strong Democrat, and he's like, watch out hunt,
you know, with those Republicans, And I said, Dad, it's
a different day and age. Now not one of the
Democrats has reached out. It seems that there is a shift.
The Republicans are now for the working class and for
(48:36):
the common people. So I honestly can't answer that question
as to why none of the Democrats reached out at
the time. I don't think it fit their agenda, you know,
I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Talking here with Michelle root. It was her daughter, Sarah,
who now all these years later, nine years after she
died here in the Omaha metro area has been honored
with Sarah's Law, which, as I said, now passed by Congress,
has got it codified here as it's signed by President
(49:16):
Trump we think today and maybe he's already signed it
though right now. I know he's talking about FEMA. He's
in North Carolina right now, but he's expected to sign
this obviously. That says any undocumented immigrant who commits a
crime resulting in death or serious injury will be detained.
This is something As Sarah was killed in early in
(49:37):
twenty sixteen, we had the presidential election of twenty sixteen underway.
Donald Trump was in town a lot, and I know
that you had a chance to meet with him. What
were those conversations like in these early months after you
lost your daughter.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
It was incredible, Scott, because I was not a support
of him, just from what I had seen on the
news and meeting with him that very first time in
May when he was in Omaha, I was it was
just different. It wasn't the man that he was portrayed
(50:21):
to be. And unfortunately it took me meeting with him
to realize how he really was and is. And again
when we got the call that he wanted to meet
with us, we're thinking, he's just a candidate. He doesn't
(50:42):
have to do this. We are just one family, a
middle class family that has lost their daughter, and he
wants to take the time to set and talk with us.
And that conversation and himself stating that if he became
president that he was going to do something about it,
(51:07):
and then just asking the question of and I had
never been asked this before, tell me about Sarah, not
what I can read, tell me about her from.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
You, and.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
His eyes teared up. And I just can't say enough
about how much that meant to our family to have
someone in that position, even though he wasn't president at
the time, to take the time to want to listen
to us.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
He referenced her in I believe it was his speech
in twenty sixteen, after it was announced that he had
won the presidency. He referenced her that night in criticizing
what had happened with immigration policy under previous administrations and
what was about to change that was also coming up
(52:02):
on nine years ago, Sarah's law languished in Congress during
those four years and of course four years under President Biden.
Even though Senators SaaS and Fisher and Grassley and Ernst
both Nebraska and Iowas senators were trying to get this done.
What happened during those four.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Years when Trump was in office.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Or Biden was when Trump was in office.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Well, he took part of Sarah's Law and made an
executive order when they couldn't get it passed.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
It's about time it finally got passed here the way
they Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
So, I mean, unfortunately it took Lake and Riley's life, Yeah,
to bring this to the forefront again.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I was just about to mention her as well, different
means of how Lake and Riley lost her life, but
a tragically similar situation is that we had someone who
never should have been in position to do something to
this young woman, and was because of our lax immigration
(53:08):
policies and detention policies in this country that got passed
here in the first hours after Trump was sworn into
office this past Monday, and with that Sarah's Law as well.
Do you expect that you'll hear from President Trump on
the signing of this bill?
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, I am not sure. I know there has been
some talk going back and forth with others that are
in DC right now about that, and like I said,
I am just thrilled it got passed. I don't need
(53:49):
to be there when it's signed. I don't need to
get a call from him. This is about Sarah and
it is not about me being at those things. It
is hard and it is an honor to be invited
(54:09):
to those things, but it doesn't bring my beautiful girl back,
And it's that part is not important for me. And
I don't mean any disrespect to any study that has
worked on Sarah's law and getting this passed, and I
don't mean any disrespect of saying I could care less
(54:32):
if I'm invited at all. I just that part is
not important to me. The important part to me was
getting something done to help prevent this from happening to
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
And Sarah, as you know, was beautiful. Obviously I didn't
get a chance to know her, but I think we
all know someone like her. I mean, she looks a
lot like like a very longtime dear friend of mine
that when she smiles, and it looked like she was
smiling all the time, her eyes would completely light up
and her smile was so big you could see her soul.
(55:12):
It just beautiful. Michelle, thank you very much for your
strength during this entire time. And even though it seemed
like maybe sometimes people had forgotten about Sarah and Sarah's Law,
we saw this week here that our members of Congress
never forgot. Senator Ernst was all too happy to bring
(55:32):
this back up, get it past, and now it's on
its way to President Trump for his signature. As I
said a bittersweet time here this week, our thoughts are
with you all the time. Michelle, Thank you very much
for taking the time here for us this morning.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Thank you Scott God bless you.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven our news radio eleven
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