March 13, 2025 • 31 mins
All I wanted to do five years ago today was watch the second half of the Creighton game. But noooooooooooo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott VORGIEZ Really funny how many things I bring up
on this program and say, hey, Lucy, remember we did this.
Remember we talked to that person. Remember and you said this,
and Lucy, without fail like, no, as I hear that day,
I never remember any of it. It's actually concerning. You
should see a specialist.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I remember stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I know you're going to remember this, Okay, in January of.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Just this last January.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Nope, January twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Your odds are getting smaller.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Started five years ago in January, we started talking about
what was going on in not just Europe, but on
American military basis in Europe, specifically Italy. I had a
friend of mine, still a friend of mine, and he
at that time was stationed in Italy and he was
watching what was going on with something that they started
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calling the coronavirus, the coronavirus, and we're like, oh my gosh,
I've never heard of that. And then some one after
a while said, no, actually, we've always lived with the coronavirus,
a corona. There's lots of coronaviruses. The common cold is
a coronavirus. You know your can of lysol you have
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sitting there and hand it down from your great great
grandma and you still got that bottle of lysol. Look
at the bottom of it, it says this protects against coronavirus.
And people are like, I don't know, sounds scary. They
started putting pictures of it on the news and it's
got the little like spikes on there, and they're like,
this virus has spikes, and it'll get into your lungs
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and it'll hook into your lung tissue and you'll never
breathe again. That's why shortly thereafter, when people here in
America started to get the coronavirus, or they were on
a cruise ship somewhere and got the coronavirus, they brought
them in here and they're like, well, we gotta hook
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them up to ventilators. Many Americans died because they were
And I'm not suggesting anything I didn't know at the time.
I wouldn't say that I'm a full expert now, but
I would say that based on what many medical experts
have said over the last five years, it was a
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tremendous mistake.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To a meeting there then, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There were they weren't allowed to say that. I know
they were hushed up. They were shut up, Their social
media was canceled. The media called them irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I just pointed at you when I said that that
was kind of dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, so that's Lucy, it's radio. I know, hand directions
don't usually. Yeah, there were people saying it then, and
but most most of us were just like if I
get coronavirus, are they gonna are we going to have
enough ventilators? You know, remember we were like we have
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Ford Motor Company just churning out ventilators because everyone in
America is going to be on a ventilator. And we've
got a new Morge space on that aircraft carrier. We
can put the dead, you know, out there in the
oceanic catacombs of the USS flag or whatever it is
they're doing. And by the way, there's your eighties G I.
Joe reference for the initiated on the USS flag. That
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was the name of the aircraft carrier. So that was it.
That was all going on in the weeks, and we
had people brought here to the Nebraska Medical Center because
this was one of the areas where they're like, well,
we brought patients here and hooked them up in these
ebola awards, We'll do the same thing for the coronavirus.
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And then we started having high school basketball tournaments around here.
And you'll remember it was just over five years ago
when people were walking into like they're all nervous looking
at each other, going into places like grocery stores and
and kind of trying to stay away from each other.
And if someone coughed, we're like, oh, we're all going
to and then it was well, this person just tested
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positive for the coronavirus. If you were at this particular
basketball game on this night in this section, you should
go see a doctor. And people are like, but I
don't feel sick. You might not. And people are like,
oh no, and I, I mean, we're all just trying
to figure out what was going on at that time.
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I was I. They had me out like five years
and one week ago, they had me out at Nebraska
Furniture Mark. There was a really fun game where you're
shooting baskets there in the store and you have a
chance to, I don't know, win a TV or something
like that so you can watch March basketball games. And
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it was this really fun thing we were doing. But
I was also tasked with because people were like I
don't know what's going on with this virus, so I
had to In addition to kind of hosting the thing,
I was also the chief medical officer, wiping down the
basketballs after each person shot them with Lysol wipes. And
there was one guy that got in my face, which
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I thought, you know, that's a little too close if
you're really concerned about this virus. And by the way,
you're here at this store too. But this guy got
in my face. He's like, you know, there's a deadly
virus going around, right, And I was like, do you
want to shoot or not? I don't. So that was
all leading up to what happened today. Five years ago.
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I remember did a radio show that morning. I'm sure
it was awesome. And then that day I was like,
all right, an exciting time. We've got the basketball tournaments here.
This is the last we're down the last couple of
days here of the conference tournaments before a selection Sunday.
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And then we got March madness. What's going on? And
it was a beautiful day and I thought, you know,
I'm gonna go to Rai's Chicken Wings Midtown Crossing at
the time, and I'm going to eat some chicken wings,
and I'm going to watch the second half of the
Creighton game. So I went down to Raise and I
sat there in my little stool up at the bar
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and I ordered my food, and then ESPN came on.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Thirteen conference tournaments have now been canceled.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In this morning.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We have critically been critical of the Big East, and
rightly in my judgment, but they will not play the
second half, and that tournament has now been canceled. Creighton
and Saint John's were actually on the floor Madison Square
Garden went to the locker room for halftime. The team's
playing in the next game have been told not to
come to the arena Providence in Butler, and now we
have word that the Big East has followed suit and
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canceled that tournament.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That was how it was reported by that guy on ESPN.
We were critical that they were going to play a
basketball game. How dare they? And so it was I
forget that must have been a Thursday. I don't think
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it was a Friday. I think it was a Thursday.
Five year There's no way of looking this up. So
they're playing that they played the first half of the
basketball game, and then they go to halftime at Madison
Square Garden and then they say, sorry, we have concerns
about the coronavirus. Apparently we didn't have these concerns an
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hour and a half ago, but now we do. And
so they canceled the game. They canceled the tournament, and
I'm sitting there about to get my lunch. I'm like, well,
what am I gonna do? Now? We'll turn on the
golf tournament. They're playing the Players Championship down a TPC
Sawgrass in Florida. I'll watch the golf tournament. They're not
going to cancel that. It's an outdoor sport, right, And
then I'm they turn we turn it over to that.
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Rory McElroy is walking off the golf course. Everyone's walking off,
and they're like, we're canceling the golf tournament. Can't do
sports anymore and life is about to change. And that
was five years ago today, when all this stuff started
getting shut down. That's what my day was like. Do
you remember yours, Lucy?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I remember a lot of frustration, because, as you well know,
I didn't buy any of this from the beginning. Was
there something that there was making some people sick? Absolutely?
But in the numbers, and in the fashion that they
were selling it to us never.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Did sounds like Lucy has a conspiracy theory. I think
five years ago, do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You remember they released the well, I don't know what
you call it. Is it the genome of it or the.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Map of the DNA sequencing or the genome.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Something like that. They released that of something. And it
was right about that same time that those very very
few little stories would pop up on some of the
maybe not mainstream media. You would see these little stories
about Chinese students being arrested in Canada and in North Carolina.
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They were university students from China here going to university here,
and I don't know they were arrested they found with
samples of different different medical stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I don't know any idea.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I know that. I know you don't. But my point
of that is if you would have dived deep into
what other information was out there, I mean you could
because you come out on the other side of this,
and you can see now that a lot of people
that were saying that at the time that's what was
actually happening.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know you're you apparently now even though you didn't
say any of this on the radio five years ago,
you apparently have told us now like you knew about
all this at the beginning, you never bought in on
any of it. Now for the rest of them, for
the rest of what everything going on?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
For sure, of course not I said I didn't believe
any of it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
For the rest of everybody, they were saying, well, this
person just got the coronavirus and died, and that happened, right,
And it did. And so there were people who I think,
legitimately five years ago, were very, very concerned, are you
going to track this in on your shoes and spread
it around? Another kid's gonna get it? And oh, by
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my wife is pregnant, what happens if she gets the coronavirus?
What about my mom? I mean, this was you asked me.
Why I know? But I'm calling bs on that you
didn't think that five years ago. Today you didn't say
any of it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But I did.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I could go I could go back and we could
listen to the entire show. You didn't say any.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Of it, but I find a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But but yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
There was something that was affecting some people, and it
affected them very negatively. Just like any time you would
have a virus or something that starts to work its
way through a number of people, which in this case
was the world basically. But you saw other areas that
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entire swaths of people weren't even affected in other countries.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But here's what I think is amazing. If you would
have said any of that five years ago, they probably
would have shut down the entire radio station. If you
would have posted that on social media, you would have.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Had your account some of it on social media for.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
A moment, and then yeah, for people's accounts started getting
deleted for saying some of this stuff. Meanwhile, here's what
I wonder, if we're ever going to come to a
time where the families of those, in some cases some
high profile people, whether around town or around the country,
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who died in the early days of the coronavirus, I
wonder if they're going to come out and say, we
don't think it was the coronavirus. We think it was
maybe all these different other factors. Coronavirus maybe didn't help,
or they were thrown onto a ventilator and the ventilator
destroyed their lungs and they died of complications from that.
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Just like I wonder if somewhere down the line, we'll
have people that say, if there's any kind of concern,
look back about the COVID vaccines. Everyone calm down, it's
gonna be okay what I'm about to say. Like anything,
whether it's a COVID vaccine or sugar, it affects different
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people different ways. Someone over here can drink a gallon
of milk, be fine. Someone over here touches milk, they
blow up instantly. I mean, it's anything. So I'm not
sitting here. I'm not some science denying vaccine. I'm just
saying different Everything affects different people different ways. Is it
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possible that some people who had legitimate concerns about I
don't know if I need or want that vaccine, and
they were forced to get it for their job or
the milk or what have you, suddenly got it and
died of heart issues. Is is this anything that we're
ever going to really legitimately talk about or does everyone
just shrink back into the hedges when you say something
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like that. I don't know, but it's amazing now five
years later. This is not just a hey, let's go
down memory lane on when the world shut down five
years ago, Because there's still effects from that time that
we're seeing today, including a big issue in Iowa, and
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I'll tell you about that next. What I'm trying to
remember is what date it would have been when a
few things started to open up and people started doing
stuff and other people got really mad and a super
spreader ended up being this phrase, or if you walk
the wrong way down a grocery store aisle because the
arrows were pointed the other way, Like that makes any
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difference at all. I don't blame everybody for doing something
or anything. Not certainly in the early days. I think
people had their mostly their heart in the right place.
And here's what I here's what I do blame, and
I try and move this conversation forward. There are still
people who want us to return to that feeling that
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they had during the early days of the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Wait, you mean they liked this situation?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They loved it? Well, think about this, Lucy. There were
so many people who they were told, like, you can't
leave your house, right, you need to stay home, and
like what about my job? We'll pay you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
People in California, you couldn't be on the beach nobody
else out there.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Ryan Emails and says, let's talk about all the stupid
stuff they made us do with no evidence it was
anything beyond a typical cold or flu season. Remember, they
use police tape to prevent people kids from playing on
park equipment here in Omaha. Yeah, the beach in California,
and then there was New Jersey. That's where Governor Chris
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Christy was out on the beach when other people weren't
allowed to be and that was a big thing. But
here in Omaha, that's right, they use police tape to
prevent kids from playing outside at the park. And Ryan says,
these people need to be held accountable for the bs
they enforced on us. They need to publicly apologize and
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admit they messed up as leaders. There are still some
people who wanted to go back to that time. They
want to stay home and watch Tiger King and get paid,
not to go out and go into the office. I mean,
this is still happening. The Trump and Elon Musk pushed
to get people back into the offices in federal government.
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Here's another example of there are some people that still
think we're in the early days of the pandemic, because
in those early days, there was a concern you know
what about the people who already are food insecure, and
we're not sure we're going to have people who are
going to be able to go out and take care
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of food in the fields, to the processing, to the hauling,
to the stores, to the going to get your food.
So we got a program here that started up in
the Biden administration. So this was like four years ago.
The USDA under the Biden administration told a lot of farmers,
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all right, we're going to pay you to have food
for schools and some of these food pantries and so forth,
because other people won't be able to volunteer their time
and go. And so that started in the Biden administration
when most of the agg producers across the country were like,
we don't need We're fine, We're okay. So there were
a lot of different organizations, including several in Iowa who
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got this contract. It was a three year contract in
response to the pandemic where the USDA were paying the
various ag producers in Iowa and other places to specifically
produce stuff for food pantries and in some cases schools.
I never heard of the schools running out of food
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and including when they wouldn't let kids go to school.
Be that as it may. That all started up like
four years ago. Some of those three year contracts then
were signed three years ago, and we're set to expire
here over the last four months. On his way out
the door, President Biden directed his AGG department in the
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USDA to tell these producers as their contracts were coming
to an end. There was the announcement in October this
last October that through Biden's executive action, we're going to
continue this program past its original end date. So you're
still going to have this money coming in to help
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fight food insecurity during the pandemic. This announcement was made
last October, not five years ago. Last October. Well, a
few changes since then, including there's a new sheriff in town.
So part of the Doge trumpiness of what's going on
right now just said, no, this is ludicrous. This program
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never should have even started three years ago, two years
into the pandemic, and it certainly doesn't need to continue now.
So these AGG producers, these farmers who just got the
word that that money is being cut off like as
of now. So you got an organization in Iowa the
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called the Iowa Food System Coalition Their executive director is
a dude named Chris, and Chris is throwing a fit.
Chris is like, how this couldn't have come as a
worse possible time. He says, it jeopardizes the life hoods
of these farmers it does.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
What were they doing before? I don't know how much
food were they providing to this organization?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know. This is it like wheat? Everything from
corn to wheat to apples.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What were they doing with it?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Selling it in different ways?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Now when the people who got it, I mean, I
understand apples and milk or something, but what were they
doing with corn and soybean and wheat.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This guy says that they're getting all of this stolen
away from them and it's going to cause people to
lose their farms. He says, this is the kind of
stuff that people lose their homes over. To have this
yanked away from him at the last minute. Now, this
is a guy named Chris, executive director of the Iowa
Food System Coalition. Now, I played a hunch, looked him
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up on social media, and here was a post from
him about three weeks ago. About two weeks ago, he
posted a video of him and his apparently late husband
singing a Merryanne faithful song, and he says this is
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an anthem for all those fighting fascism around the world
in these dark times. On even darker days, I turned
to my dear late husband to try and find the
fire to fight back. I've been doing social justice organizing
for over two decades now, and that fire has been
harder and harder to find. But I still have it,
and I know it's somewhere on YouTube. My late husband,
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he says, struggled with gender norms and identity and the
sadness that he didn't feel safe to fully express the
femininity within him. And I know this kind of hatred
contributed to his death. Trans Rites are human rights. This
was a post from this guy a couple of weeks ago.
So when he's saying Iowa farmers are going to lose
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their farms and their homes and so forth, I have
a feeling this probably comes from a TDS place rather
than an AGG place. This is definitely one of these
true anti trumpers who can't see that we don't need
the federal government to pay farmers to provide special food
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for food pantries and schools. Due to the pandemic I
don't know if anyone told him pandemic has been over
for a long time. He's obviously going through a tough
time here, and his husband died at some point, and
you know that's going to cause you to say any
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number of things. But I when the media is passing
this guy's thoughts along, though, I think it's important to
figure out, like, all right, so where's he really coming from?
Where's he really coming from? He hates Trump and this
this decision came from Trump, so therefore it's the worst
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thing that's ever happened. And this is you know, first
Trump killed all the trans people and now he's killing
the farmers. So that's apparently where that's coming from. I
do remember a few things that happened in the wake
of this date five years ago that I didn't hate.
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I'll talk about that next. Scott Bhees News Radio eleven kfab.
My buddy Steve just sent me a text and said,
the worst is when they canceled the Masters. I know
they did a November Masters that year. It's just not right,
it's not right. And then I get this email from Chris.
It says, yeah, COVID also shut down that this day
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five years ago was the night of the Blake Shelton
concert at Chi Health Center Center in Omaha. You would
think with the pandemic, you be fine at Chi Health Center,
but it's not a hospital, it's an arena, and Blake
Shelton was supposed to play there five years ago. Tonight,
says Chris. He says, we just come two hours from Norfolk.
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We're checking into the hotel and at that second they
decided to cancel the show. He had just performed in
Wichita the night before. But we made the best of it.
We had supper with our son and his friends at
the Mattress Factory. I'm surprised that they were allowed to
serve dinner that night. It was it was kind of
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touch and go as to who's going to be open
and allow what. And we have called attention five years
ago and since to some of the madness in this town.
There were talks about, well, how are we going to
have school? Well, we're not kids pretty happy about that.
They tried to do remote learning that didn't work. That
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was ridiculous. Restaurants were like, well are we allowed to eat?
I mean, can we eat outside? Can we do anything outside?
There was all that and then you had to wear
a mask for a while, and you get yelled at
if you didn't have a mask on, even though you
could walk three steps to your table, sit down and
take your mask off, because COVID can't travel if you're
sitting or eating something flights. I mean, there was so
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much that we had to navigate starting five years ago.
But there was one thing that I hope we remember
and realize we don't need a pandemic to do this.
There was one afternoon, just days in two everything getting
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canceled and shut down, and I realized that my life
it didn't change dramatically. I was still able to come
to work every day, and I was still able to
go home to my family. I'm laughing right now remembering
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how it was really weird as to whether people were
going to be able to play golf. You want to
hear a great story about.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That, I do so.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I was a member at the time of the fantastic
Oak Hills Country Club and they were open, but it
was kind of weird, like, all right, don't touch the
flag when don't people touch anything, don't come inside. We'll
bring stuff out to you and try and stay away
from each other. And unless you come from the same house,
you're not going to ride in golf carts together and
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all that stuff. But it was kind of thought like, well,
we're outside, we can go play golf, right. Well. The
problem with that was there were a lot of people
who didn't want anyone to be out doing anything, even
though they weren't around them at the time. They just
thought like, if you're playing golf, whether there's four of
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you out there on a five hundred yard hole and
there's separation between you, or if you're gathered in the
parking lot afterwards and kind of you know, stood around
a circle and just talk to each other, people would
drive by and go, well that there's something not right
about that. So people were calling the cops. So then
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the police would show up at the golf course and
they're like, I don't know, we don't know what we're
supposed to do right now. But it was always a
thing like, well, if you guys keep gathering too close
to each other, they're going to shut everything down. You're
not gonna be able to play golf. So this was
kind of the overriding concern about all that. So one
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day I had two friends of mine in two foursomes playing.
The first get to the tenth tea box right across
the parking lot and they about tea off and that's
when a police officer kind of comes by, which wasn't
completely unusual, but he was like, yeah, some people are
complaining and they're like, well, are you shutting He's like, no,
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I'm just telling you guys, just you know, try not
to try not to gather. Okay, fine, tell you what.
Like we had him like tee off. You know, he
was a really great guy, and turns out these guys
can still tee off even when wearing a you know,
the vest and so forth. So we're like, so, my friends,
they said, all right, we got another group of friends
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of ours coming right behind us. Would you do this
for us? And told him the plan and he's like
absolutely so, my buddy's tea off. And then a few
minutes later here comes another foursome of friends of ours,
and that's when the cop is standing there on the
tenth tea box and he's like, sorry, guys, we got
to close the golf course down. That last group right
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there was the last one of tea off. But the
course is shut down. You guys got to go home,
and so he's jacking with these friends of mine because
it wasn't true. And finally he lets him off the
hook and everybody have a good laugh, and my buddy
Travis says, dude, I was about to go for your gun.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I was, he said, one of the.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Greatest lines ever, and they're having a laugh about it.
So that was what was going on spring five years ago.
But there was one day where I was like, we
looked at my family and said we got to get
out and do something. So we went out to basically
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hang out on sandbars because nothing was open. We went
out on the Platte, a little park area there no
playground equipment and all that stuff was all roped off.
Couldn't do it, and we just spent a day just
kind of walking trails we'd never been and just walking
around on sand bars on the Platte River, which is
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so stupid simple. We had a great time, except for
when my daughter got tied up and some barbed wire
up on some trail because she didn't stay on the trail.
She still got scars in her leg from that. Other Yeah,
other than that, it was a great day.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That sounds like a day in heaven to me.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It was we took a little picnic, and we had
a little picnic on a sandbar, and there were other
people out. It was a beautiful day, and we're all
trying to stay away from each other, and we're all
waving at each other like we you know, we're in
a war together or something. And there was all of that,
and people were trying to be courteous most of the
time for everyone. And you know what, we don't need
a pandemic to get to that feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, and yeah, you have people that want to stay
home now that they have as you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know, and and not everyone felt that way. Where's
this email? Oh here we go, Rosie emails and says,
my neighbor across the street still wears a mask outdoors.
He does not let his children go outside and play.
Oh so so sad.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's horrible. Yeah, And I mean, unless you live next
door to me, then you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Right now, Lucy, than what you're outside play. But yeah,
it's amazing how some people still think this is the
way it should be. And you know what, at this point,
if they make the decision for themselves that they want
to wear a mask outside or in the car driving
by themselves. I don't care. Yeah, but we don't make
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me do it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But when you look at everything around you over the
last five years and you see that that kids are
out and they're having fun and they're not adversely affected
by this, how can you still not let your kids
go outside? I don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, I know. And it was during that time when
my son, so let's see, he would have been about ten,
he would have been ten, and that's when we're like, yeah,
you and your friends can play outside and kind of
go exploring. And that's when they went down and met
the homeless guy under the bridge near our neighborhood and
that was right. And then they found the tunnels, like
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the sewer tunnels, they could walk through under that other
part of the neighborhood, and they just had a blast.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh they're gonna have great imunity.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Just had a blast, yeah to everything. And I loved
all of it. And there was some there were before
everyone got mad at each other, like you gotta put
your mask on, hew, you know, stay six feet away
from me. There was a time in the early days
of what happened five years ago to day, when things
shut down. People kind of looked out for each other,
and it was kind of an acknowledgment if you were out, like, hey,
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are you okay? You good? It's everything okay, hope, everything's okay.
We were for a few days there. We were nice
to each other, and we looked out for each other,
and we enjoyed simple things like going out for a
walk on a nice day or having a picnic on
a sandbar. We don't need a pandemic to get back
to that. Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven on news
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radio eleven ten KFAB
Scott VORGIEZ Really funny how many things I bring up
on this program and say, hey, Lucy, remember we did this.
Remember we talked to that person. Remember and you said this,
and Lucy, without fail like, no, as I hear that day,
I never remember any of it. It's actually concerning. You
should see a specialist.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I remember stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I know you're going to remember this, Okay, in January of.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Just this last January.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Nope, January twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Your odds are getting smaller.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Started five years ago in January, we started talking about
what was going on in not just Europe, but on
American military basis in Europe, specifically Italy. I had a
friend of mine, still a friend of mine, and he
at that time was stationed in Italy and he was
watching what was going on with something that they started
(00:53):
calling the coronavirus, the coronavirus, and we're like, oh my gosh,
I've never heard of that. And then some one after
a while said, no, actually, we've always lived with the coronavirus,
a corona. There's lots of coronaviruses. The common cold is
a coronavirus. You know your can of lysol you have
(01:13):
sitting there and hand it down from your great great
grandma and you still got that bottle of lysol. Look
at the bottom of it, it says this protects against coronavirus.
And people are like, I don't know, sounds scary. They
started putting pictures of it on the news and it's
got the little like spikes on there, and they're like,
this virus has spikes, and it'll get into your lungs
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and it'll hook into your lung tissue and you'll never
breathe again. That's why shortly thereafter, when people here in
America started to get the coronavirus, or they were on
a cruise ship somewhere and got the coronavirus, they brought
them in here and they're like, well, we gotta hook
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them up to ventilators. Many Americans died because they were
And I'm not suggesting anything I didn't know at the time.
I wouldn't say that I'm a full expert now, but
I would say that based on what many medical experts
have said over the last five years, it was a
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tremendous mistake.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To a meeting there then, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There were they weren't allowed to say that. I know
they were hushed up. They were shut up, Their social
media was canceled. The media called them irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I just pointed at you when I said that that
was kind of dramatic.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, so that's Lucy, it's radio. I know, hand directions
don't usually. Yeah, there were people saying it then, and
but most most of us were just like if I
get coronavirus, are they gonna are we going to have
enough ventilators? You know, remember we were like we have
(02:56):
Ford Motor Company just churning out ventilators because everyone in
America is going to be on a ventilator. And we've
got a new Morge space on that aircraft carrier. We
can put the dead, you know, out there in the
oceanic catacombs of the USS flag or whatever it is
they're doing. And by the way, there's your eighties G I.
Joe reference for the initiated on the USS flag. That
(03:18):
was the name of the aircraft carrier. So that was it.
That was all going on in the weeks, and we
had people brought here to the Nebraska Medical Center because
this was one of the areas where they're like, well,
we brought patients here and hooked them up in these
ebola awards, We'll do the same thing for the coronavirus.
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And then we started having high school basketball tournaments around here.
And you'll remember it was just over five years ago
when people were walking into like they're all nervous looking
at each other, going into places like grocery stores and
and kind of trying to stay away from each other.
And if someone coughed, we're like, oh, we're all going
to and then it was well, this person just tested
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positive for the coronavirus. If you were at this particular
basketball game on this night in this section, you should
go see a doctor. And people are like, but I
don't feel sick. You might not. And people are like,
oh no, and I, I mean, we're all just trying
to figure out what was going on at that time.
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I was I. They had me out like five years
and one week ago, they had me out at Nebraska
Furniture Mark. There was a really fun game where you're
shooting baskets there in the store and you have a
chance to, I don't know, win a TV or something
like that so you can watch March basketball games. And
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it was this really fun thing we were doing. But
I was also tasked with because people were like I
don't know what's going on with this virus, so I
had to In addition to kind of hosting the thing,
I was also the chief medical officer, wiping down the
basketballs after each person shot them with Lysol wipes. And
there was one guy that got in my face, which
(05:09):
I thought, you know, that's a little too close if
you're really concerned about this virus. And by the way,
you're here at this store too. But this guy got
in my face. He's like, you know, there's a deadly
virus going around, right, And I was like, do you
want to shoot or not? I don't. So that was
all leading up to what happened today. Five years ago.
(05:36):
I remember did a radio show that morning. I'm sure
it was awesome. And then that day I was like,
all right, an exciting time. We've got the basketball tournaments here.
This is the last we're down the last couple of
days here of the conference tournaments before a selection Sunday.
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And then we got March madness. What's going on? And
it was a beautiful day and I thought, you know,
I'm gonna go to Rai's Chicken Wings Midtown Crossing at
the time, and I'm going to eat some chicken wings,
and I'm going to watch the second half of the
Creighton game. So I went down to Raise and I
sat there in my little stool up at the bar
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and I ordered my food, and then ESPN came on.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Thirteen conference tournaments have now been canceled.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
In this morning.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We have critically been critical of the Big East, and
rightly in my judgment, but they will not play the
second half, and that tournament has now been canceled. Creighton
and Saint John's were actually on the floor Madison Square
Garden went to the locker room for halftime. The team's
playing in the next game have been told not to
come to the arena Providence in Butler, and now we
have word that the Big East has followed suit and
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canceled that tournament.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That was how it was reported by that guy on ESPN.
We were critical that they were going to play a
basketball game. How dare they? And so it was I
forget that must have been a Thursday. I don't think
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it was a Friday. I think it was a Thursday.
Five year There's no way of looking this up. So
they're playing that they played the first half of the
basketball game, and then they go to halftime at Madison
Square Garden and then they say, sorry, we have concerns
about the coronavirus. Apparently we didn't have these concerns an
(07:30):
hour and a half ago, but now we do. And
so they canceled the game. They canceled the tournament, and
I'm sitting there about to get my lunch. I'm like, well,
what am I gonna do? Now? We'll turn on the
golf tournament. They're playing the Players Championship down a TPC
Sawgrass in Florida. I'll watch the golf tournament. They're not
going to cancel that. It's an outdoor sport, right, And
then I'm they turn we turn it over to that.
(07:51):
Rory McElroy is walking off the golf course. Everyone's walking off,
and they're like, we're canceling the golf tournament. Can't do
sports anymore and life is about to change. And that
was five years ago today, when all this stuff started
getting shut down. That's what my day was like. Do
you remember yours, Lucy?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I remember a lot of frustration, because, as you well know,
I didn't buy any of this from the beginning. Was
there something that there was making some people sick? Absolutely?
But in the numbers, and in the fashion that they
were selling it to us never.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Did sounds like Lucy has a conspiracy theory. I think
five years ago, do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You remember they released the well, I don't know what
you call it. Is it the genome of it or the.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Map of the DNA sequencing or the genome.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Something like that. They released that of something. And it
was right about that same time that those very very
few little stories would pop up on some of the
maybe not mainstream media. You would see these little stories
about Chinese students being arrested in Canada and in North Carolina.
(09:06):
They were university students from China here going to university here,
and I don't know they were arrested they found with
samples of different different medical stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I don't know any idea.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I know that. I know you don't. But my point
of that is if you would have dived deep into
what other information was out there, I mean you could
because you come out on the other side of this,
and you can see now that a lot of people
that were saying that at the time that's what was
actually happening.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know you're you apparently now even though you didn't
say any of this on the radio five years ago,
you apparently have told us now like you knew about
all this at the beginning, you never bought in on
any of it. Now for the rest of them, for
the rest of what everything going on?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
For sure, of course not I said I didn't believe
any of it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
For the rest of everybody, they were saying, well, this
person just got the coronavirus and died, and that happened, right,
And it did. And so there were people who I think,
legitimately five years ago, were very, very concerned, are you
going to track this in on your shoes and spread
it around? Another kid's gonna get it? And oh, by
(10:17):
my wife is pregnant, what happens if she gets the coronavirus?
What about my mom? I mean, this was you asked me.
Why I know? But I'm calling bs on that you
didn't think that five years ago. Today you didn't say
any of it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But I did.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I could go I could go back and we could
listen to the entire show. You didn't say any.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Of it, but I find a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But but yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
There was something that was affecting some people, and it
affected them very negatively. Just like any time you would
have a virus or something that starts to work its
way through a number of people, which in this case
was the world basically. But you saw other areas that
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entire swaths of people weren't even affected in other countries.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But here's what I think is amazing. If you would
have said any of that five years ago, they probably
would have shut down the entire radio station. If you
would have posted that on social media, you would have.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Had your account some of it on social media for.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
A moment, and then yeah, for people's accounts started getting
deleted for saying some of this stuff. Meanwhile, here's what
I wonder, if we're ever going to come to a
time where the families of those, in some cases some
high profile people, whether around town or around the country,
(11:45):
who died in the early days of the coronavirus, I
wonder if they're going to come out and say, we
don't think it was the coronavirus. We think it was
maybe all these different other factors. Coronavirus maybe didn't help,
or they were thrown onto a ventilator and the ventilator
destroyed their lungs and they died of complications from that.
(12:07):
Just like I wonder if somewhere down the line, we'll
have people that say, if there's any kind of concern,
look back about the COVID vaccines. Everyone calm down, it's
gonna be okay what I'm about to say. Like anything,
whether it's a COVID vaccine or sugar, it affects different
(12:31):
people different ways. Someone over here can drink a gallon
of milk, be fine. Someone over here touches milk, they
blow up instantly. I mean, it's anything. So I'm not
sitting here. I'm not some science denying vaccine. I'm just
saying different Everything affects different people different ways. Is it
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possible that some people who had legitimate concerns about I
don't know if I need or want that vaccine, and
they were forced to get it for their job or
the milk or what have you, suddenly got it and
died of heart issues. Is is this anything that we're
ever going to really legitimately talk about or does everyone
just shrink back into the hedges when you say something
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like that. I don't know, but it's amazing now five
years later. This is not just a hey, let's go
down memory lane on when the world shut down five
years ago, Because there's still effects from that time that
we're seeing today, including a big issue in Iowa, and
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I'll tell you about that next. What I'm trying to
remember is what date it would have been when a
few things started to open up and people started doing
stuff and other people got really mad and a super
spreader ended up being this phrase, or if you walk
the wrong way down a grocery store aisle because the
arrows were pointed the other way, Like that makes any
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difference at all. I don't blame everybody for doing something
or anything. Not certainly in the early days. I think
people had their mostly their heart in the right place.
And here's what I here's what I do blame, and
I try and move this conversation forward. There are still
people who want us to return to that feeling that
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they had during the early days of the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Wait, you mean they liked this situation?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They loved it? Well, think about this, Lucy. There were
so many people who they were told, like, you can't
leave your house, right, you need to stay home, and
like what about my job? We'll pay you.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
People in California, you couldn't be on the beach nobody
else out there.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Ryan Emails and says, let's talk about all the stupid
stuff they made us do with no evidence it was
anything beyond a typical cold or flu season. Remember, they
use police tape to prevent people kids from playing on
park equipment here in Omaha. Yeah, the beach in California,
and then there was New Jersey. That's where Governor Chris
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Christy was out on the beach when other people weren't
allowed to be and that was a big thing. But
here in Omaha, that's right, they use police tape to
prevent kids from playing outside at the park. And Ryan says,
these people need to be held accountable for the bs
they enforced on us. They need to publicly apologize and
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admit they messed up as leaders. There are still some
people who wanted to go back to that time. They
want to stay home and watch Tiger King and get paid,
not to go out and go into the office. I mean,
this is still happening. The Trump and Elon Musk pushed
to get people back into the offices in federal government.
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Here's another example of there are some people that still
think we're in the early days of the pandemic, because
in those early days, there was a concern you know
what about the people who already are food insecure, and
we're not sure we're going to have people who are
going to be able to go out and take care
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of food in the fields, to the processing, to the hauling,
to the stores, to the going to get your food.
So we got a program here that started up in
the Biden administration. So this was like four years ago.
The USDA under the Biden administration told a lot of farmers,
(16:30):
all right, we're going to pay you to have food
for schools and some of these food pantries and so forth,
because other people won't be able to volunteer their time
and go. And so that started in the Biden administration
when most of the agg producers across the country were like,
we don't need We're fine, We're okay. So there were
a lot of different organizations, including several in Iowa who
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got this contract. It was a three year contract in
response to the pandemic where the USDA were paying the
various ag producers in Iowa and other places to specifically
produce stuff for food pantries and in some cases schools.
I never heard of the schools running out of food
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and including when they wouldn't let kids go to school.
Be that as it may. That all started up like
four years ago. Some of those three year contracts then
were signed three years ago, and we're set to expire
here over the last four months. On his way out
the door, President Biden directed his AGG department in the
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USDA to tell these producers as their contracts were coming
to an end. There was the announcement in October this
last October that through Biden's executive action, we're going to
continue this program past its original end date. So you're
still going to have this money coming in to help
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fight food insecurity during the pandemic. This announcement was made
last October, not five years ago. Last October. Well, a
few changes since then, including there's a new sheriff in town.
So part of the Doge trumpiness of what's going on
right now just said, no, this is ludicrous. This program
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never should have even started three years ago, two years
into the pandemic, and it certainly doesn't need to continue now.
So these AGG producers, these farmers who just got the
word that that money is being cut off like as
of now. So you got an organization in Iowa the
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called the Iowa Food System Coalition Their executive director is
a dude named Chris, and Chris is throwing a fit.
Chris is like, how this couldn't have come as a
worse possible time. He says, it jeopardizes the life hoods
of these farmers it does.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
What were they doing before? I don't know how much
food were they providing to this organization?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't know. This is it like wheat? Everything from
corn to wheat to apples.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What were they doing with it?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Selling it in different ways?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Now when the people who got it, I mean, I
understand apples and milk or something, but what were they
doing with corn and soybean and wheat.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This guy says that they're getting all of this stolen
away from them and it's going to cause people to
lose their farms. He says, this is the kind of
stuff that people lose their homes over. To have this
yanked away from him at the last minute. Now, this
is a guy named Chris, executive director of the Iowa
Food System Coalition. Now, I played a hunch, looked him
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up on social media, and here was a post from
him about three weeks ago. About two weeks ago, he
posted a video of him and his apparently late husband
singing a Merryanne faithful song, and he says this is
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an anthem for all those fighting fascism around the world
in these dark times. On even darker days, I turned
to my dear late husband to try and find the
fire to fight back. I've been doing social justice organizing
for over two decades now, and that fire has been
harder and harder to find. But I still have it,
and I know it's somewhere on YouTube. My late husband,
(20:40):
he says, struggled with gender norms and identity and the
sadness that he didn't feel safe to fully express the
femininity within him. And I know this kind of hatred
contributed to his death. Trans Rites are human rights. This
was a post from this guy a couple of weeks ago.
So when he's saying Iowa farmers are going to lose
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their farms and their homes and so forth, I have
a feeling this probably comes from a TDS place rather
than an AGG place. This is definitely one of these
true anti trumpers who can't see that we don't need
the federal government to pay farmers to provide special food
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for food pantries and schools. Due to the pandemic I
don't know if anyone told him pandemic has been over
for a long time. He's obviously going through a tough
time here, and his husband died at some point, and
you know that's going to cause you to say any
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number of things. But I when the media is passing
this guy's thoughts along, though, I think it's important to
figure out, like, all right, so where's he really coming from?
Where's he really coming from? He hates Trump and this
this decision came from Trump, so therefore it's the worst
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thing that's ever happened. And this is you know, first
Trump killed all the trans people and now he's killing
the farmers. So that's apparently where that's coming from. I
do remember a few things that happened in the wake
of this date five years ago that I didn't hate.
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I'll talk about that next. Scott Bhees News Radio eleven kfab.
My buddy Steve just sent me a text and said,
the worst is when they canceled the Masters. I know
they did a November Masters that year. It's just not right,
it's not right. And then I get this email from Chris.
It says, yeah, COVID also shut down that this day
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five years ago was the night of the Blake Shelton
concert at Chi Health Center Center in Omaha. You would
think with the pandemic, you be fine at Chi Health Center,
but it's not a hospital, it's an arena, and Blake
Shelton was supposed to play there five years ago. Tonight,
says Chris. He says, we just come two hours from Norfolk.
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We're checking into the hotel and at that second they
decided to cancel the show. He had just performed in
Wichita the night before. But we made the best of it.
We had supper with our son and his friends at
the Mattress Factory. I'm surprised that they were allowed to
serve dinner that night. It was it was kind of
(23:33):
touch and go as to who's going to be open
and allow what. And we have called attention five years
ago and since to some of the madness in this town.
There were talks about, well, how are we going to
have school? Well, we're not kids pretty happy about that.
They tried to do remote learning that didn't work. That
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was ridiculous. Restaurants were like, well are we allowed to eat?
I mean, can we eat outside? Can we do anything outside?
There was all that and then you had to wear
a mask for a while, and you get yelled at
if you didn't have a mask on, even though you
could walk three steps to your table, sit down and
take your mask off, because COVID can't travel if you're
sitting or eating something flights. I mean, there was so
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much that we had to navigate starting five years ago.
But there was one thing that I hope we remember
and realize we don't need a pandemic to do this.
There was one afternoon, just days in two everything getting
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canceled and shut down, and I realized that my life
it didn't change dramatically. I was still able to come
to work every day, and I was still able to
go home to my family. I'm laughing right now remembering
(25:03):
how it was really weird as to whether people were
going to be able to play golf. You want to
hear a great story about.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That, I do so.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I was a member at the time of the fantastic
Oak Hills Country Club and they were open, but it
was kind of weird, like, all right, don't touch the
flag when don't people touch anything, don't come inside. We'll
bring stuff out to you and try and stay away
from each other. And unless you come from the same house,
you're not going to ride in golf carts together and
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all that stuff. But it was kind of thought like, well,
we're outside, we can go play golf, right. Well. The
problem with that was there were a lot of people
who didn't want anyone to be out doing anything, even
though they weren't around them at the time. They just
thought like, if you're playing golf, whether there's four of
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you out there on a five hundred yard hole and
there's separation between you, or if you're gathered in the
parking lot afterwards and kind of you know, stood around
a circle and just talk to each other, people would
drive by and go, well that there's something not right
about that. So people were calling the cops. So then
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the police would show up at the golf course and
they're like, I don't know, we don't know what we're
supposed to do right now. But it was always a
thing like, well, if you guys keep gathering too close
to each other, they're going to shut everything down. You're
not gonna be able to play golf. So this was
kind of the overriding concern about all that. So one
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day I had two friends of mine in two foursomes playing.
The first get to the tenth tea box right across
the parking lot and they about tea off and that's
when a police officer kind of comes by, which wasn't
completely unusual, but he was like, yeah, some people are
complaining and they're like, well, are you shutting He's like, no,
(27:00):
I'm just telling you guys, just you know, try not
to try not to gather. Okay, fine, tell you what.
Like we had him like tee off. You know, he
was a really great guy, and turns out these guys
can still tee off even when wearing a you know,
the vest and so forth. So we're like, so, my friends,
they said, all right, we got another group of friends
(27:23):
of ours coming right behind us. Would you do this
for us? And told him the plan and he's like
absolutely so, my buddy's tea off. And then a few
minutes later here comes another foursome of friends of ours,
and that's when the cop is standing there on the
tenth tea box and he's like, sorry, guys, we got
to close the golf course down. That last group right
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there was the last one of tea off. But the
course is shut down. You guys got to go home,
and so he's jacking with these friends of mine because
it wasn't true. And finally he lets him off the
hook and everybody have a good laugh, and my buddy
Travis says, dude, I was about to go for your gun.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I was, he said, one of the.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Greatest lines ever, and they're having a laugh about it.
So that was what was going on spring five years ago.
But there was one day where I was like, we
looked at my family and said we got to get
out and do something. So we went out to basically
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hang out on sandbars because nothing was open. We went
out on the Platte, a little park area there no
playground equipment and all that stuff was all roped off.
Couldn't do it, and we just spent a day just
kind of walking trails we'd never been and just walking
around on sand bars on the Platte River, which is
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so stupid simple. We had a great time, except for
when my daughter got tied up and some barbed wire
up on some trail because she didn't stay on the trail.
She still got scars in her leg from that. Other Yeah,
other than that, it was a great day.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That sounds like a day in heaven to me.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It was we took a little picnic, and we had
a little picnic on a sandbar, and there were other
people out. It was a beautiful day, and we're all
trying to stay away from each other, and we're all
waving at each other like we you know, we're in
a war together or something. And there was all of that,
and people were trying to be courteous most of the
time for everyone. And you know what, we don't need
a pandemic to get to that feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, and yeah, you have people that want to stay
home now that they have as you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know, and and not everyone felt that way. Where's
this email? Oh here we go, Rosie emails and says,
my neighbor across the street still wears a mask outdoors.
He does not let his children go outside and play.
Oh so so sad.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's horrible. Yeah, And I mean, unless you live next
door to me, then you know.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Right now, Lucy, than what you're outside play. But yeah,
it's amazing how some people still think this is the
way it should be. And you know what, at this point,
if they make the decision for themselves that they want
to wear a mask outside or in the car driving
by themselves. I don't care. Yeah, but we don't make
(30:20):
me do it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But when you look at everything around you over the
last five years and you see that that kids are
out and they're having fun and they're not adversely affected
by this, how can you still not let your kids
go outside? I don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
No, I know. And it was during that time when
my son, so let's see, he would have been about ten,
he would have been ten, and that's when we're like, yeah,
you and your friends can play outside and kind of
go exploring. And that's when they went down and met
the homeless guy under the bridge near our neighborhood and
that was right. And then they found the tunnels, like
(30:56):
the sewer tunnels, they could walk through under that other
part of the neighborhood, and they just had a blast.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh they're gonna have great imunity.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Just had a blast, yeah to everything. And I loved
all of it. And there was some there were before
everyone got mad at each other, like you gotta put
your mask on, hew, you know, stay six feet away
from me. There was a time in the early days
of what happened five years ago to day, when things
shut down. People kind of looked out for each other,
and it was kind of an acknowledgment if you were out, like, hey,
(31:27):
are you okay? You good? It's everything okay, hope, everything's okay.
We were for a few days there. We were nice
to each other, and we looked out for each other,
and we enjoyed simple things like going out for a
walk on a nice day or having a picnic on
a sandbar. We don't need a pandemic to get back
to that. Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven on news
(31:50):
radio eleven ten KFAB
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