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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Voorhees and we're back three two. Oh, we're live. Okay,
all right, Thanks a lot for hanging out with us here,
scottikfab dot com and anticipating the topic, Marvin has already
sent an email, and I think we'll start off this
story with his email, he says. Scott. I was in
(00:23):
attendance at the Bellevue Public School board meeting ten years
ago when angry parents like me I had two daughters
enrolled in Bellevue Public schools at the time, were informed
it was too late to rescind the newly enacted transgender policy.
The superintendent at the time simply informed the board of
(00:44):
the changes without a vote because they could not afford
the expected lawsuits from the ACLU. Marv says, I find
it ironic now the district says they cannot afford to
lose federal funding if they they don't drop this policy.
Ten years ago, twenty fifteen, I believed it was worth
(01:04):
the cost of the fight to keep the kids safe
by properly restricting separate private spaces for boys and girls.
And it is the right thing to do now in
twenty twenty five, but not because of funding, but because
it is the right policy to support in order to
protect and support the students. How can parents believe that
the school board is making decisions with the well being
(01:26):
of the children in mind when they're so obviously guided
by funding alone. That's from Marv sent to Scott at
kfab dot com. So here's what's happening now at their
meeting last night school board meeting that was attended by
(01:47):
several people. They allowed a couple dozen parents, students, and
community members to speak at last night's meeting before the
Bellevue Public Schools Board voted to approve changes like whatever
your so called biological gender is, biological gender, there's another
word for that, it's oh, oh yeah gender. Whatever your
(02:10):
gender is, there is a bathroom or a locker room
that corresponds with that. You are allowed, encouraged, and yes,
mandated to use those bathrooms and locker rooms that match
your gender. Again, things that wouldn't have been deemed the
(02:31):
least controversial when we were growing up and going to school.
I know time March is on, but there was another
change here that said, and because we've heard about this
where it's h I want to be I want to
(02:51):
be very clear in how I say this so no
one gets the wrong idea. In fact, before I say it,
I will say that the superintendent said, look, there are
a couple things at play with this policy. One, students
can still dress how they wish if your identity is
based on you wearing a certain type of outfit, as
(03:13):
long as it's not I don't know a major like
I only wear these giant hats so that students behind
me can't see. I like to dress like Bat Masterson.
There's a reference the kids will love. So I wear
a giant hat and no one behind me can. I
dress like I'm always going to the Kentucky Derby, so
(03:35):
I gotta wear one of those big hats. As long
as it's not something like that, you can dress how
you want to dress you want. I mean, students, I
have for years, teachers have always said at the start
of the school year, do you have any nicknames that
you prefer I call you? Some students try and get
away with I like to be called Stinky Bomb or whatever,
(03:57):
and the teacher's like, okay, Aaron. You know. So there's
always been accommodations made for if you want to be
if you want to go by a different name, you
can go as a different name. You can say, yes,
I realized I was born a male named Blake, and
(04:17):
now I go, I'd like to be a I guess
I'm still a male, but I'm an addressed like a
traditional stereotypical female. And I want you to call me Clarice. Hello, Clarice,
So you can still do that. And then you go
(04:39):
into the boy's bathroom, you go into the boys locker room,
and that people say, well, this is going to cause
people to bully these students. The superintendent said the district
will not tolerate bullying of any students for any reason period.
I don't know, I don't know what is so contra
(05:00):
versial about this. No one is to be bullied, and
you can. You still have some measure of expression. What
you don't have is the right to have your teacher
fired or another student removed from the classroom. If they
call you the quote wrong pronouns, they're not the wrong pronouns,
(05:21):
they're not your preferred pronouns. And let's all try and
be respectful here. But at what point does one person's
respect in another person's masquerade? Where do they intersect in?
What should happen? These need to be clearer guidelines, and
Bellevue took a step in that direction, and they also
(05:41):
said teachers can't or they don't need to withhold a
student's gender expression, identity, or whatever status from the parents. Now, yes,
there were people that went up there and said, if
respecting a student's pronouns and their gender identity scares you
(06:04):
more then the fact they might commit suicide, I would
say you lack the humanity and priorities to be on
this board. Unquote that quote here from a community member
who opposes these changes, as reported by k ETV News
Watch seven, there will be some students who might be
(06:29):
prone to suicide because of this. There might be some
students who aren't the least bit gender fluid who might
be prone to suicide for any number of reasons. Those
issues should be brought to light in a way where
the trained professionals at the school and the parents and
(06:52):
whatever trained professionals they bring into the conversation can come
together and address those issues. Hiding it, pretending like it
doesn't exist, pretending like well, as long as we call
you by your preferred pronoun then there's no problem that
might lead to you causing suicide. This is all this again,
(07:17):
I want to be clear on how I say this,
but a lot of this is brought up. That's an
absolute scare tactic to tell parents and schools, well, if
you don't allow this kid to do whatever he wants,
he'll kill himself. The reality is, for a variety of reasons,
(07:38):
we have teen suicides, and there's no amount of ignoring
it that will make any of that better. If you
have a student who's prone to that thinking, the world
might not constantly bend to his will. In terms of identity,
(08:03):
I mean, what are we supposed to do? I want
to be called by these pronouns. I want you to
tell me that I'm a girl. And now, if you'll
excuse me, I have to go get an ID. I
have to go see my guynecologist, who's gonna say, you know,
I'm having a hard time administering in your PAS smear,
your bubbles are in the way. I need to go
get my passport. In each of these instances, there's a
(08:27):
pretty clear gender delineation there. None of it is hateful.
None of it is hateful. I don't want anyone to
be hateful. I don't want anyone to be disrespected. I
don't want anyone to be othered or whatever phrase that
we're using. But so when the superintendent says, I mean
he's hiding behind this, well we could lose ten million
(08:49):
dollars in federal funding. This is all Trump's fault. Which
he didn't say that last part, but I believe it
may have been inferred. Look, students can dress how they wish.
Bullying any student for any reason not tolerated. But let's
(09:11):
look at the other side of this, not to say
that one is better than the other. Let's just strip
away all of the sphincter tightening for a second and
look at the reality if if a if a student
goes to another classmate who is choosing to have a
(09:32):
different gender expression, maybe dresses stereotypically like a member of
the opposite sex, and perhaps has changed a name, and
the students like you gonna beat you up, I'm gonna
bebi locker, you know, or whatever stupid things that this
idiot neanderthal of a student is saying. That student should
(09:53):
be dealt with. That's bullying, and you can't be threatening students.
That's wrong. Up until this point, it was also entirely
possible that a teacher, another classmate, someone who's grown up
(10:14):
with this kid sitting next to him in class, who
was always a boy with a boy's name. Maybe they
played together as kids, and he you know, still refers
to him as a male, says to the teacher, Hey,
he gets to do this? How come? And I, whoa?
(10:34):
You're using her wrong pronouns. No, I'm not. This is
a guy two weeks ago was a guy who went
by he what changed? Did I miss something? And that
student who was so called you know who was allegedly
mispronouning this student, that student would be removed from the
(10:55):
classroom and probably suspended. Is that not a form of bullying?
I like what Bellevue Public Schools did here. It provides
parents the ability to better get at the root of
what might be might be. Not to say that a
(11:17):
various gender expression is a mental illness. I'm not saying that.
I might say that if your kid comes to you
at the age of eleven and says, I'd like to
cut my genitalia off, might be something worth looking at.
Might want to talk to someone about that, and not
the guy with the little guillotine over there. I'm talking
about if the same thing, if the kid comes home
(11:39):
and says, you know what, I don't like my left arm.
I would feel better if it was gone. Okay, might
want to talk to someone about that, might want to
get a professional involved. But if a student comes to
you and says, lop off my memories or genitalia or
(12:00):
my left leg below the knee for absolutely no reason,
that's a conversation that should be explored. That is what
I'm saying. And it used to be that a student
would go to a teacher and say, don't tell my parents,
but I think i'd like to cut my feet off,
and the teacher's like, I won't tell your parents that.
(12:25):
That's ridiculous. Right of course they would. But if a
student goes to a teacher and says, I think i'd
like to have all this genitalia stuff, I'd like to
have it removed and hung up in the coat room
just in case I might need it later, I could
change my mind. You're not gonna tell the parents about that.
(12:45):
You're not gonna get anyone involved on that. Come on,
we're talking about our kids. But at the same time,
the realities that we grew up with. I mean, if
one of your friends came to you and said, well,
I got cup from the boys basketball team again, so
I'm gonna go trans and I'm going to play in
the girls basketball team. That kid would be mercilessly destroyed
(13:10):
by his friends in the worst and probably the only
way we knew how growing up, we would just trash
that kid and be like, no, you're not you know it.
No one would have let their friends get away with that.
Is that hateful? Is that wrong? Is that? I don't know?
It was. It just was. It just was. I'm not
(13:34):
saying I'm just saying it just was. But now I mean,
but at the same time, someone might have come to
school with a very very different haircut or style, like
I know that the other day, I look like I
wanted to be a member of Kid and Play and
I had, you know, I wore you know, hip hop
(13:56):
clothes or maybe I dressed my clothes to the back
with the hat to the back like crisscross, and I
had like gold chain or a clock around my neck
like flavor Flave, and I had the rings on my
fingers that when I put my hands together, spelled out
my name. That was awesome, dude, that was yo. That
was great. And that was last week. Today I'm gonna
grow my hair long, I'm gonna wear a leather jacket,
(14:19):
and I'm gonna listen to nothing but Metallica and Anthrax.
All right, you have changed your style. This was something
that people did when I was growing up. It's like,
all right, he's trying something else today. That concept is
I want to be the other gender. It's it's very different,
(14:43):
isn't it all right? I like to sum this up.
I like what Bellevue did. We allowed teachers and parents
to get involved. If for whatever reason, we're respecting people's
decision to they want to dress and they're not going
to tolerate bullying, and they get their federal funding and
(15:06):
you have to use the bathroom and locker room and
sports team that corresponds with your gender. I think that's
fair and I think it's overdue. Scott Boys, here's a
great example about which I am yapping when we have
to mold these young people. My son aka Dumb Dumb,
(15:29):
fifteen year old freshman told me the other day. I
got a text message. I can work from home and
there's a signing bonus. I'm gonna make this much money.
I could make this much in my first year. Can
I text these people back. I said, no, it's a scam.
He's like, no, no, it's they had my number. I'm like, yeah, anyway,
I just in this last words from our sponsors got
(15:50):
the exact same text message offer. I took a screenshot.
I just texted it to him and said, hey, we
can work together. Good news. Just because a kid says
or believes something at this tender adolescent stage doesn't mean
that they have any idea what they're talking about now.
They very well might and decisions made at eighteen, that's
(16:14):
a whole different conversation. Let's let these kids be kids.
Scott Boyes Mornings nine to eleven, Our News Radio eleven
ten KFAB
Scott Voorhees and we're back three two. Oh, we're live. Okay,
all right, Thanks a lot for hanging out with us here,
scottikfab dot com and anticipating the topic, Marvin has already
sent an email, and I think we'll start off this
story with his email, he says. Scott. I was in
(00:23):
attendance at the Bellevue Public School board meeting ten years
ago when angry parents like me I had two daughters
enrolled in Bellevue Public schools at the time, were informed
it was too late to rescind the newly enacted transgender policy.
The superintendent at the time simply informed the board of
(00:44):
the changes without a vote because they could not afford
the expected lawsuits from the ACLU. Marv says, I find
it ironic now the district says they cannot afford to
lose federal funding if they they don't drop this policy.
Ten years ago, twenty fifteen, I believed it was worth
(01:04):
the cost of the fight to keep the kids safe
by properly restricting separate private spaces for boys and girls.
And it is the right thing to do now in
twenty twenty five, but not because of funding, but because
it is the right policy to support in order to
protect and support the students. How can parents believe that
the school board is making decisions with the well being
(01:26):
of the children in mind when they're so obviously guided
by funding alone. That's from Marv sent to Scott at
kfab dot com. So here's what's happening now at their
meeting last night school board meeting that was attended by
(01:47):
several people. They allowed a couple dozen parents, students, and
community members to speak at last night's meeting before the
Bellevue Public Schools Board voted to approve changes like whatever
your so called biological gender is, biological gender, there's another
word for that, it's oh, oh yeah gender. Whatever your
(02:10):
gender is, there is a bathroom or a locker room
that corresponds with that. You are allowed, encouraged, and yes,
mandated to use those bathrooms and locker rooms that match
your gender. Again, things that wouldn't have been deemed the
(02:31):
least controversial when we were growing up and going to school.
I know time March is on, but there was another
change here that said, and because we've heard about this
where it's h I want to be I want to
(02:51):
be very clear in how I say this so no
one gets the wrong idea. In fact, before I say it,
I will say that the superintendent said, look, there are
a couple things at play with this policy. One, students
can still dress how they wish if your identity is
based on you wearing a certain type of outfit, as
(03:13):
long as it's not I don't know a major like
I only wear these giant hats so that students behind
me can't see. I like to dress like Bat Masterson.
There's a reference the kids will love. So I wear
a giant hat and no one behind me can. I
dress like I'm always going to the Kentucky Derby, so
(03:35):
I gotta wear one of those big hats. As long
as it's not something like that, you can dress how
you want to dress you want. I mean, students, I
have for years, teachers have always said at the start
of the school year, do you have any nicknames that
you prefer I call you? Some students try and get
away with I like to be called Stinky Bomb or whatever,
(03:57):
and the teacher's like, okay, Aaron. You know. So there's
always been accommodations made for if you want to be
if you want to go by a different name, you
can go as a different name. You can say, yes,
I realized I was born a male named Blake, and
(04:17):
now I go, I'd like to be a I guess
I'm still a male, but I'm an addressed like a
traditional stereotypical female. And I want you to call me Clarice. Hello, Clarice,
So you can still do that. And then you go
(04:39):
into the boy's bathroom, you go into the boys locker room,
and that people say, well, this is going to cause
people to bully these students. The superintendent said the district
will not tolerate bullying of any students for any reason period.
I don't know, I don't know what is so contra
(05:00):
versial about this. No one is to be bullied, and
you can. You still have some measure of expression. What
you don't have is the right to have your teacher
fired or another student removed from the classroom. If they
call you the quote wrong pronouns, they're not the wrong pronouns,
(05:21):
they're not your preferred pronouns. And let's all try and
be respectful here. But at what point does one person's
respect in another person's masquerade? Where do they intersect in?
What should happen? These need to be clearer guidelines, and
Bellevue took a step in that direction, and they also
(05:41):
said teachers can't or they don't need to withhold a
student's gender expression, identity, or whatever status from the parents. Now, yes,
there were people that went up there and said, if
respecting a student's pronouns and their gender identity scares you
(06:04):
more then the fact they might commit suicide, I would
say you lack the humanity and priorities to be on
this board. Unquote that quote here from a community member
who opposes these changes, as reported by k ETV News
Watch seven, there will be some students who might be
(06:29):
prone to suicide because of this. There might be some
students who aren't the least bit gender fluid who might
be prone to suicide for any number of reasons. Those
issues should be brought to light in a way where
the trained professionals at the school and the parents and
(06:52):
whatever trained professionals they bring into the conversation can come
together and address those issues. Hiding it, pretending like it
doesn't exist, pretending like well, as long as we call
you by your preferred pronoun then there's no problem that
might lead to you causing suicide. This is all this again,
(07:17):
I want to be clear on how I say this,
but a lot of this is brought up. That's an
absolute scare tactic to tell parents and schools, well, if
you don't allow this kid to do whatever he wants,
he'll kill himself. The reality is, for a variety of reasons,
(07:38):
we have teen suicides, and there's no amount of ignoring
it that will make any of that better. If you
have a student who's prone to that thinking, the world
might not constantly bend to his will. In terms of identity,
(08:03):
I mean, what are we supposed to do? I want
to be called by these pronouns. I want you to
tell me that I'm a girl. And now, if you'll
excuse me, I have to go get an ID. I
have to go see my guynecologist, who's gonna say, you know,
I'm having a hard time administering in your PAS smear,
your bubbles are in the way. I need to go
get my passport. In each of these instances, there's a
(08:27):
pretty clear gender delineation there. None of it is hateful.
None of it is hateful. I don't want anyone to
be hateful. I don't want anyone to be disrespected. I
don't want anyone to be othered or whatever phrase that
we're using. But so when the superintendent says, I mean
he's hiding behind this, well we could lose ten million
(08:49):
dollars in federal funding. This is all Trump's fault. Which
he didn't say that last part, but I believe it
may have been inferred. Look, students can dress how they wish.
Bullying any student for any reason not tolerated. But let's
(09:11):
look at the other side of this, not to say
that one is better than the other. Let's just strip
away all of the sphincter tightening for a second and
look at the reality if if a if a student
goes to another classmate who is choosing to have a
(09:32):
different gender expression, maybe dresses stereotypically like a member of
the opposite sex, and perhaps has changed a name, and
the students like you gonna beat you up, I'm gonna
bebi locker, you know, or whatever stupid things that this
idiot neanderthal of a student is saying. That student should
(09:53):
be dealt with. That's bullying, and you can't be threatening students.
That's wrong. Up until this point, it was also entirely
possible that a teacher, another classmate, someone who's grown up
(10:14):
with this kid sitting next to him in class, who
was always a boy with a boy's name. Maybe they
played together as kids, and he you know, still refers
to him as a male, says to the teacher, Hey,
he gets to do this? How come? And I, whoa?
(10:34):
You're using her wrong pronouns. No, I'm not. This is
a guy two weeks ago was a guy who went
by he what changed? Did I miss something? And that
student who was so called you know who was allegedly
mispronouning this student, that student would be removed from the
(10:55):
classroom and probably suspended. Is that not a form of bullying?
I like what Bellevue Public Schools did here. It provides
parents the ability to better get at the root of
what might be might be. Not to say that a
(11:17):
various gender expression is a mental illness. I'm not saying that.
I might say that if your kid comes to you
at the age of eleven and says, I'd like to
cut my genitalia off, might be something worth looking at.
Might want to talk to someone about that, and not
the guy with the little guillotine over there. I'm talking
about if the same thing, if the kid comes home
(11:39):
and says, you know what, I don't like my left arm.
I would feel better if it was gone. Okay, might
want to talk to someone about that, might want to
get a professional involved. But if a student comes to
you and says, lop off my memories or genitalia or
(12:00):
my left leg below the knee for absolutely no reason,
that's a conversation that should be explored. That is what
I'm saying. And it used to be that a student
would go to a teacher and say, don't tell my parents,
but I think i'd like to cut my feet off,
and the teacher's like, I won't tell your parents that.
(12:25):
That's ridiculous. Right of course they would. But if a
student goes to a teacher and says, I think i'd
like to have all this genitalia stuff, I'd like to
have it removed and hung up in the coat room
just in case I might need it later, I could
change my mind. You're not gonna tell the parents about that.
(12:45):
You're not gonna get anyone involved on that. Come on,
we're talking about our kids. But at the same time,
the realities that we grew up with. I mean, if
one of your friends came to you and said, well,
I got cup from the boys basketball team again, so
I'm gonna go trans and I'm going to play in
the girls basketball team. That kid would be mercilessly destroyed
(13:10):
by his friends in the worst and probably the only
way we knew how growing up, we would just trash
that kid and be like, no, you're not you know it.
No one would have let their friends get away with that.
Is that hateful? Is that wrong? Is that? I don't know?
It was. It just was. It just was. I'm not
(13:34):
saying I'm just saying it just was. But now I mean,
but at the same time, someone might have come to
school with a very very different haircut or style, like
I know that the other day, I look like I
wanted to be a member of Kid and Play and
I had, you know, I wore you know, hip hop
(13:56):
clothes or maybe I dressed my clothes to the back
with the hat to the back like crisscross, and I
had like gold chain or a clock around my neck
like flavor Flave, and I had the rings on my
fingers that when I put my hands together, spelled out
my name. That was awesome, dude, that was yo. That
was great. And that was last week. Today I'm gonna
grow my hair long, I'm gonna wear a leather jacket,
(14:19):
and I'm gonna listen to nothing but Metallica and Anthrax.
All right, you have changed your style. This was something
that people did when I was growing up. It's like,
all right, he's trying something else today. That concept is
I want to be the other gender. It's it's very different,
(14:43):
isn't it all right? I like to sum this up.
I like what Bellevue did. We allowed teachers and parents
to get involved. If for whatever reason, we're respecting people's
decision to they want to dress and they're not going
to tolerate bullying, and they get their federal funding and
(15:06):
you have to use the bathroom and locker room and
sports team that corresponds with your gender. I think that's
fair and I think it's overdue. Scott Boys, here's a
great example about which I am yapping when we have
to mold these young people. My son aka Dumb Dumb,
(15:29):
fifteen year old freshman told me the other day. I
got a text message. I can work from home and
there's a signing bonus. I'm gonna make this much money.
I could make this much in my first year. Can
I text these people back. I said, no, it's a scam.
He's like, no, no, it's they had my number. I'm like, yeah, anyway,
I just in this last words from our sponsors got
(15:50):
the exact same text message offer. I took a screenshot.
I just texted it to him and said, hey, we
can work together. Good news. Just because a kid says
or believes something at this tender adolescent stage doesn't mean
that they have any idea what they're talking about now.
They very well might and decisions made at eighteen, that's
(16:14):
a whole different conversation. Let's let these kids be kids.
Scott Boyes Mornings nine to eleven, Our News Radio eleven
ten KFAB
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