May 1, 2025 • 7 mins
His portrayal of Isaiah Bradley in the MCU -- especially in "Brave New World" -- is so powerful and nuanced.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorge.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I really enjoyed the latest Captain America movie, Captain America
Brave New World, which is now available digitally, and I
thought the most compelling angle to that story wasn't Harrison
Ford as a red incredible Hulk, which was fun, but
instead it was the continuation of a character we met
(00:22):
in the Disney Plus series Falcon and Winter Soldier. The
first Captain America type super soldier was a man named
Isaiah Bradley.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
But you were a super soldier like Steve, you could
have been the next the next would huh blonde hear,
blue eyes, stars and stripes. The entire world's been chasing
out great White hope since he first got dosed with that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Sir, Steve, did not put you in jail. We now
welcome onto the program the actor who brought that life
and complexity to the character of Isaiah Bradley, Carl Lumbley,
joins us here on News Radio eleven ten kfab. Carl,
is an honor to have you on the program.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Thank you so much, Scott.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
As far as I'm concerned, that movie is about the suit,
and it's not the suit that Sam the Falcon wears
as Captain America. It's the suit that Isaiah wears to
go to the White House and the emotion that you
brought to I got to get my suit, and then
what happens after the situation there at the White House
(01:31):
with the suit, and even there's a callback at the
end of the movie that seemed like it ran pretty
deep for you. Am I fishing here or is there
something to that?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No? No, it did run very deep for me. Isaiah
has the memory that Isaiah has inside that suit. There's
a memory of love. It was the suit that he
got married in, and unfortunately he did not get to
(02:07):
live his life with his wife, something that I did
get to do for many, many years. But at a
certain point she passed. And so I think the idea
of a particular piece of clothing, or a particular book
(02:32):
or a pillow from that life with your love can
embody so much of the joy and the experience that
you had with them. Isaiah has all of that boiled
down to that suit, and in some ways being able
(02:56):
to be in contact with that suit represents his ability
to stay in contact with the love in his heart.
The idea of what's taking place with him is hard
to bear. The idea of that suit being damaged is
(03:16):
impossible for him to face it. That's that was what
that was what he was carrying. That's suit the suit
represents from for me Adams, for Isaiah, love the most
important thing you can have in your heart and your life.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's a wonderful relationship between the character Isaiah and the suit.
I also, of course loved the relationship between Isaiah Bradley
and then the Falcon Sam Wilson, now Captain America in
this movie. What did you bring from your own background
growing up the son of Jamaican immigrants coming up here
in America in Minneapolis is what did you bring from
(04:01):
your own background in your family life to this character
Isaiah Bradley.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Isaiah Bradley was raised to contribute and that that was
what my parents wanted me to do. You know, they
had come to this country with an understanding that there
were there was a lot of bounty in this country,
there was a lot of possibility in this country, but
that you had a responsibility if you came here to contribute.
(04:32):
I think that's the mentality that many immigrants have when
they come. We can make it better for ourselves and
we can contribute to this wonderful experiment that promises the
equal opportunity to make things better for everyone, And like
(04:56):
my parents, Isaiah finds out that not all of those
promises are kept. That the the responsibility for freedom, the
responsibility that everyone shared, and so in some ways they
(05:20):
were betrayed. In some ways they were let down, not
to the degree that Isaiah was. Isaiah's betrayal was complete
and his history was shut away. There was there was
nothing you could do to turn off my parents. Their
energy was boundless. They maintained hope and faith. Isaiah lost
(05:43):
his for a while, and it's his relationship with Sam Wilson,
first of the Falcon and then experiencing Sam as Captain
America that has given him back faith.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I just thought this movie, in your portrayal of this character,
was so nuanced and had so many layers, and that
goes back to The Falcon and Winter Soldier. I was
very happy to see you show up in Captain America
Brave New World. I think Anthony Mackie is just a riot.
I'll watch him do anything, and I hope that there's
a future for him and for you in future MCU movies. Carl,
(06:20):
thank you so much for all the entertainment over the years,
including a great role that you played in a fantastic
episode of The X Files and everything else you've done.
I hope to talk to you again. It's a pleasure
talking with you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
My pleasure as well.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You take care to you as well. That is Carl Lumbley.
He plays Isaiah Bradley Captain America. Brave New World is
now available on digital. Look for that movie. And if
you saw the reviews going, eh, you know by now
these reviewers and you had to do some I'll say
this about this movie you had. It helps to do
(06:58):
a little bit of homework and you're like homework.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
There's some characters that come into this latest Captain America
movie that were introduced to us twenty some years ago
in the Edward Norton Hulk movie and then in the
Disney series Falcon and Winter Soldier, all of which I watched,
and I watched this movie going who's that? Why is
she in there? There's so much in this but it
(07:24):
is fun to go back and revisit some of these characters,
even if you've already seen those movies. It's a lot
to take in with these Scott Byes mornings nine to
eleven on news radio eleven ten kfab
Scott Vorge.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I really enjoyed the latest Captain America movie, Captain America
Brave New World, which is now available digitally, and I
thought the most compelling angle to that story wasn't Harrison
Ford as a red incredible Hulk, which was fun, but
instead it was the continuation of a character we met
(00:22):
in the Disney Plus series Falcon and Winter Soldier. The
first Captain America type super soldier was a man named
Isaiah Bradley.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
But you were a super soldier like Steve, you could
have been the next the next would huh blonde hear,
blue eyes, stars and stripes. The entire world's been chasing
out great White hope since he first got dosed with that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Sir, Steve, did not put you in jail. We now
welcome onto the program the actor who brought that life
and complexity to the character of Isaiah Bradley, Carl Lumbley,
joins us here on News Radio eleven ten kfab. Carl,
is an honor to have you on the program.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Thank you so much, Scott.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
As far as I'm concerned, that movie is about the suit,
and it's not the suit that Sam the Falcon wears
as Captain America. It's the suit that Isaiah wears to
go to the White House and the emotion that you
brought to I got to get my suit, and then
what happens after the situation there at the White House
(01:31):
with the suit, and even there's a callback at the
end of the movie that seemed like it ran pretty
deep for you. Am I fishing here or is there
something to that?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No? No, it did run very deep for me. Isaiah
has the memory that Isaiah has inside that suit. There's
a memory of love. It was the suit that he
got married in, and unfortunately he did not get to
(02:07):
live his life with his wife, something that I did
get to do for many, many years. But at a
certain point she passed. And so I think the idea
of a particular piece of clothing, or a particular book
(02:32):
or a pillow from that life with your love can
embody so much of the joy and the experience that
you had with them. Isaiah has all of that boiled
down to that suit, and in some ways being able
(02:56):
to be in contact with that suit represents his ability
to stay in contact with the love in his heart.
The idea of what's taking place with him is hard
to bear. The idea of that suit being damaged is
(03:16):
impossible for him to face it. That's that was what
that was what he was carrying. That's suit the suit
represents from for me Adams, for Isaiah, love the most
important thing you can have in your heart and your life.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's a wonderful relationship between the character Isaiah and the suit.
I also, of course loved the relationship between Isaiah Bradley
and then the Falcon Sam Wilson, now Captain America in
this movie. What did you bring from your own background
growing up the son of Jamaican immigrants coming up here
in America in Minneapolis is what did you bring from
(04:01):
your own background in your family life to this character
Isaiah Bradley.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Isaiah Bradley was raised to contribute and that that was
what my parents wanted me to do. You know, they
had come to this country with an understanding that there
were there was a lot of bounty in this country,
there was a lot of possibility in this country, but
that you had a responsibility if you came here to contribute.
(04:32):
I think that's the mentality that many immigrants have when
they come. We can make it better for ourselves and
we can contribute to this wonderful experiment that promises the
equal opportunity to make things better for everyone, And like
(04:56):
my parents, Isaiah finds out that not all of those
promises are kept. That the the responsibility for freedom, the
responsibility that everyone shared, and so in some ways they
(05:20):
were betrayed. In some ways they were let down, not
to the degree that Isaiah was. Isaiah's betrayal was complete
and his history was shut away. There was there was
nothing you could do to turn off my parents. Their
energy was boundless. They maintained hope and faith. Isaiah lost
(05:43):
his for a while, and it's his relationship with Sam Wilson,
first of the Falcon and then experiencing Sam as Captain
America that has given him back faith.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I just thought this movie, in your portrayal of this character,
was so nuanced and had so many layers, and that
goes back to The Falcon and Winter Soldier. I was
very happy to see you show up in Captain America
Brave New World. I think Anthony Mackie is just a riot.
I'll watch him do anything, and I hope that there's
a future for him and for you in future MCU movies. Carl,
(06:20):
thank you so much for all the entertainment over the years,
including a great role that you played in a fantastic
episode of The X Files and everything else you've done.
I hope to talk to you again. It's a pleasure
talking with you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
My pleasure as well.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You take care to you as well. That is Carl Lumbley.
He plays Isaiah Bradley Captain America. Brave New World is
now available on digital. Look for that movie. And if
you saw the reviews going, eh, you know by now
these reviewers and you had to do some I'll say
this about this movie you had. It helps to do
(06:58):
a little bit of homework and you're like homework.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
There's some characters that come into this latest Captain America
movie that were introduced to us twenty some years ago
in the Edward Norton Hulk movie and then in the
Disney series Falcon and Winter Soldier, all of which I watched,
and I watched this movie going who's that? Why is
she in there? There's so much in this but it
(07:24):
is fun to go back and revisit some of these characters,
even if you've already seen those movies. It's a lot
to take in with these Scott Byes mornings nine to
eleven on news radio eleven ten kfab
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