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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vordiez, twenty two year old suspect from Utah, not
a student at that college where Charlie Kirk met his
untimely end. Is in custody. No details on criminal history
or mental illness or whatever. Though, as you heard in
the news conference we carried to you live in the
last hour and the Fox News update a moment ago,
(00:20):
he certainly had become more radicalized politically as of late
and apparently hated Charlie Kirk. Well, we can't round up
all of the young people who have become more radicalized
politically in the last couple of years and hate Charlie Kirk.
We don't have the room. No matter how many alligator
alcatrazes and Cornhusker clinks that we create, we don't have
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the room. I know some people look at the variety
of social media posts that they've seen. If you're on
social media, you have probably seen this, and, like me,
you had to decide do I want to argue with
this person, Do I want to tell this person I
don't appreciate their post, or do I just unfriend them?
(01:08):
Or Here's always a fun dynamic. You see a post
from someone who you know, and you either go, yeah,
I know she's pretty far left, but you know we
got along well in high school. I think I'll just
on Facebook. You can unfollow someone, you remain friends, but
you won't see their posts anymore. If I really adore
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you and I'm really disgusted by what you think, but
I don't see you ever in my life ever, I'll
probably just decide to unfollow and move on. There was
one guy who I knew pretty well in college who
suddenly popped off too and I was like, Wow, didn't
I didn't know we had it in him unfollow. People
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look at that and go, I can't believe there's so
much hate and ill will in our society. Stay with
me for the second half of this little diatribe, please,
because the first half is pretty bleak. What do you mean,
I can't believe that there's so much hate and ill
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will in the society. Have you not been paying attention?
You got people out there who have been bemoaning that
Trump's shooter missed in Pennsylvania. You had people out there celebrating,
and women and guys thirsting. Oh we thirst. He is
a thirst magnet for the guy who murdered the CEO
(02:40):
of United healthcare, and people said, well, yeah, that CEO
deserved it. This guy, probably the murderer. He's a hero
and a martyr. Probably he was alike a lot of
people who had the insurance company cut off his insurance
and he needed care. Then we found out no, he
wasn't even among the insured for this company. He was
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just crazy. He was just evil. But they didn't stop
people from going. But he's handsome. People out there celebrating
the murder of that man, people out there raising kids
who are filling our juvenile justice centers. People out there
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decrying the removal of from our neighborhoods illegal immigrant gang members,
and they have the audacity to say we support immigrants.
That's not an immigrant. That's an illegal immigrant, murdering gang
member trying to sell drugs to your kids. We're going
to remove them from the neighborhood. No, And they're holding
on to his leg and following him to Uganda or whatever.
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We got people out there who drive like a bunch
of drunken, crazed lunatics on their way to take home
run baseballs from kids. What do you mean, can't believe
there's this much ill will out there? Take a look
around you, ellen, we're at the third ring of Hell.
Christmas vacation ding. Do I have a flip side to that?
(04:18):
Thankfully I do, because I also spend time in society.
I see that stuff I just mentioned. It makes me sad.
Here's some other things I've seen or heard about right
here in our community. Recently, I went and went into
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an assisted living community. There's an older man in there
who and let's not look at the issues that might
be surrounding this, but this man loves Taylor Swift. Hey,
why not? And he thought, and he told the staff members,
I bet if we could, I bet we could try
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and convince Taylor Swift to stop by here. After all,
Kansas City is only a couple of hours south of here.
Maybe she'll come by. And the staff members, rather than
going okay, Harold, they said, you know what, let's have
a Taylor Swift party. I walked in there the other
day and everyone had on party hats where they had
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signs everywhere saying, you know, hey, we love Taylor stuff
like that, And this guy was king for a day.
They decided to buy into his delusion that Taylor Swift
would come visit him. And you know what, crazier things
have happened, right, But they thought, hey, we can either
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dismiss this and go on about. And let's face it,
working at an assisted living community that is sometimes a
pretty thankless job. You've got a couple hundred residents in there,
every single one of them is having the most important
problem right now. We don't have a couple hundred staff members.
It's tough. And these staff members, rather than going okay, decided,
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you know what, let's have a party. It was a blast.
They even got a snow cone truck to come park
in the parking lot and give snow cones to everyone.
They thought, let's have a party. That happened at our
same society. My son was telling me about his basketball
teammates who were having a particularly arduous workout after school
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recently on a very hot day. There was one kid,
a little bigger, little slower than everyone else, and he
was really struggling. And rather than mock him or ignore
him or be annoyed that they'd all finish this particular
workout and he was still struggling with it, they ran
back on that field. They ran back on that field
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until he fought acrossed the finish line. With them by
his side. Stuff like this that gets me. And we
see this every single day in our communities. Governor Cox
Utah s all right, I didn't know that was gonna
get me, but that got me. Governor Cox at Utah
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said that there were vigils, not riots, not people setting
fire to cars and chucking Molotov cocktails through storefront windows.
There were vigils the students at the University of Nebraska Lincoln.
I can't vouch for the veracity of the story, but
I've sun you you've seen this on social media as well.
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This guy was out there just sitting there at a
little table with signs saying Charlie Kirk deserved it, and
rather than beat his ever loving face in, they picked
him up and they threw him him in the fountain
he was sitting in front of. And there are people
out there who had a very very different opinion than
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Charlie Kirk, and they debated him with a smile on
their face, laughing with him. My statement, Slash question is
would you agree, Slash disagreed.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That the make America movement make America great movement again?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know Magma movement is a cult. No, why don't
you explain to me and the audience what is a cult?
Of course? Okay, do you know any characteristics of a cult?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean you could take the Jonestown death cult, of
which there was a I don't know, a charismatic leader
that constantly lied peopled and they took him out of
everyday normal life and leads them towards ostrization and cutting
off of family ties.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Am I am?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I getting closer? I mean the Democrat according to.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That Now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
She's laughing, he's laughing. The crowd is laughing that people
think that this guy is Hitler youth. And he just
goes out there and says, and hey, we hate gays
and we hate blacks, and we hate Democrats and they
should all die. And it's okay, as some kids in
a school die because of a gun death once in
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a while, so I can have my gun. And then
he pulls out his gun and starts licking it, and
the crowd's like, yeah, this is what we do with
these could not be further from the truth. But what
about that quote, Scott, are you going to get to
that quote you said you were going to get to.
I went in a little different direction here. I kind
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of apologize. You'll hear the quote. What is this quote
that some people are using as the basis of their
celebration or mockery or disinterest in connection with the death
of Charlie Kirk. You'll hear it next, I promise Scotties
News Radio KFAB. You'll see some of these social media posts,
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some of these commentators on the network say, well, you know,
Charlie did say that, and they'll either give you the
exact quote or they will just make up what they
think their version of it is. But Charlie Kirk said, quote,
I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately
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some gun deaths every single year so that we can
have the Second Amendment. Unquote. That is part of what
he said. Here is about a minute surrounding that quote.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So we need to be very clear that you're not
going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen.
You can significantly reduce them thre having more fathers in
the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools.
We should have an honest and clear reductionist view of
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gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.
You will never live in a society when you have
an armed citizenry, and you won't have a single gun death.
That is nonsense. It's driven, but I think it's I
think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have
a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year
so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect
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our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal.
It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in
a complete, alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So that is part of a larger, longer conversation. I'll
read the entire thing here. But did Charlie Kirk say
that part that sentence that people have keyed in on
as eloquently as possible. Do you think that if he
were writing a book, do you think he would phrase
it exactly in that way. I think that maybe a
(12:02):
word or two would be changed. I think if you
just take guess, I'll tell you what people are doing.
They see the quote or they get the impression that
there was like a school shooting, and Charlie Kirk came
out five minutes later and said, yep, hey, what do
you want. I need my gun so if that kid
has to die so I can have my gun. Well,
(12:23):
I guess that's just fine. That's what's gonna happen? You know,
that's what some people. Why how could have someone hate
someone so much unless they've been told, they've been made
to think, they've been able to rationalize within their own selves.
This is a guy who doesn't care if your kid
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dies so that he can have his gun. You know,
when you look at it that way, you can almost
see where some people are like, yeah, he got what
he deserved. Right, let's listen to Well, I'm going to
read for you because I can't find the entire video
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surrounding all of this. I can only find that clip.
Here's the entire conversation. Audience member says, how's it going, Charlie,
I'm Austin. I just had a question related to Second
Amendment rights. We saw the shooting that happened recently. This
was in twenty twenty three, and a lot of people
are upset. But I'm seeing people argue for the other
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side that they want to take Second Amendment rights away.
How do we convince them that it's important to have
the right to defend ourselves and all that good stuff.
Charlie Kirk says, yeah, great question, thank you. So I'm
a big Second Amendment fan, but I think most politicians
are cowards when it comes to defending why we have
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a second Amendment. This is why I would not be
a good politician. Or maybe I would. I don't know,
because I actually speak my mind. The Second Amendment is
not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is
not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second
Amendment is there God forbid so that you can defend
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yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you, wow,
that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that. Well, then
you have not really read any of the literature of
our founding fathers. Number two, You've not read any twentieth
century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way,
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if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser
than wherever you're living because C. S. Lewis was really smart.
So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in.
You just don't want to face reality that governments tend
to get tyrannical, and that if people need an ability
to protect themselves and their communities and their families. Now
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we must also be real, We must be honest with
the population. Having an armed citizenry. It comes with a price,
and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price.
Fifty thousand, fifty thousand, fifty thousand people die on the
road every year. That's a price you get rid of driving.
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You'd have fifty thousand fewer auto fatalities. But we've decided
that the benefit of driving, speed, accessibility, mobility, having product
services is worth the cost of fifty thousand people dying
on the road. So we need to be very clear
that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero.
(15:37):
This is the quote we just heard. I'll let him
say this far. So you heard everything leading up to this,
and then Charlie Kirk says.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So we need to be very clear that you're not
going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen.
You can significantly reduce them thre having more fathers in
the home. Yes, by having more armed guards in front
of schools. We should have an honest and clear reductionist
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view of gun violence, but we should not have a
utopian one. You will never live in a society when
you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a
single gun death. That is nonsense.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's drivel.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But I think it's I think it's worth it. I
think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some
gun deaths every single year so that we can have
the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.
That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks
like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Here's the end to what Charlie Kirk said after that,
So then how do you reduce very simple people say, oh, Charlie,
how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How
do we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have
armed guards outside of baseball games, that's why. How do
we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed
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guards out side of airports. How do we stop the
shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks.
How do we stop all the shootings at gun shows?
Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows.
There's all those guns because everyone's armed. If our money
and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards,
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why don't our children. That's what Charlie Kirk said surrounding
the quote that some people who hate his guts and
maybe they read all of that. I highly doubt it.
I don't know how anyone can read all of that
and not say I don't like that he said it.
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But somewhere in there, maybe begrudgingly, these people who hate
his guts and hate conservatism and see him as young
Trump and activating a bunch of young Trumpet mag of people,
they might concede in there, maybe he's got a point.
But what does he sound like someone who doesn't care
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if a kid dies? Not to me that that's not
the impression I get from all of this. Now, if
one of your incredibly lefty liberal friends shares on social
media just a quick headliner Charlie Kirk doesn't Charlie Kirk
says it's worth it to have gun deaths so that
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we can have a second Amendment. You just see that.
Your brain's gonna go in a lot of different directions,
Like what did he mean by that? Does he not care?
Does he say, hey, I don't care, Just hey, get
the pacifier out of the kid's mouth and give him
a gun. Come on, let's go read, listen, follow what
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the man had actually said. Do you think if anyone
who honestly either wanted to kill Charlie Kirk did kill
Charlie Kirk, or celebrated, mocked, or showed a level of
disinterest at the death of Charlie Kirk. Do you think
any of them had read everything I just presented to you.
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I highly doubt it. That's putting in the work. When
Charlie Kirk says the reason we had when so that
quote that everyone says, this is awful. I think it's
worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths
every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.
(19:38):
That's the quote. If they do quote him directly and accurately,
that's the pole quote. What they leave out is the
Second Amendment is there so you can defend yourself against
a tyrannical government. And you know, it's funny, every four
to eight years, you got half the people in the
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country who suddenly fear we have a tyrannical government in place.
We have a tyrant. He's gonna declare martial law. Everyone's
gonna be rounded up because of the color of their skin,
or their sexual orientation, or because they're gonna come after
our guns. And everyone suddenly, if you're a firearms owner,
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you're gonna be put on a list, and we're gonna
come after you, and we're not gonna be able to vote,
and there's gonna be pandemics. And I mean, depending on
who's in office. You got half the population looking at
that administration going this is why we have a second Amendment,
and you start hearing the Thomas Jefferson quotes the tree
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of liberty has to be watered with the blood of
the innocent or what. I don't remember exactly what the
quote is, but you know what, as crazy as it
is when you're driving around and you see a guy
out there with his snake flag out there, and you're like,
I know that guy's want to be militia member. Hey,
I don't know if you've noticed, but in history in
this country and certainly like probably going on today in
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some other country, there's a tyrannical government or there's a
faction of our population willingly going after our own people
and trying to start a coup. What what are you
gonna do. You look down the street and you see,
I don't know, the president sending the military after you.
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You see an armed populace coming out there, and like,
we're gonna just drag everyone out of their homes and
kill them. If we don't like the look on their face.
You look, you see that coming down the street. You
look tow you're left and you see two houses. One's
got the gay Pride flag and the other guy has
got the American flag, a snake flag, the pow Mia flag,
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and that guy dresses in camo all the time. Which
house you going to? You're going to go visit snake flag? Tom,
aren't you?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Tom? Hety me, Gary, Yeah, I know, we don't really
talk very much. Hey, I just wondering if we can
come in. You've got a compound down there, right, You've
got a safe room, You've got beans and water and
all that that stuff. What do they call you guys? Preppers?
I've always supported that, Tom, Can I come in? Can
my family come in? That stuff happens. That's why we
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have a second Amendment. And the reason one of the
big reasons why you haven't seen any of these aforementioned
tyrants that you think have occupied our olefal office suddenly
start coming after the citizenry. But Trump in the National Garden,
DC quiet. The reason you haven't seen all this happening
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is because we have a very large armed population. Tom
is ready to go. Tom's ready for that fight. He
might be a little too ready, might be a little
too ready, but there are a lot of him out there.
That's why we have the Second Amendment, not so school
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shooters can bypass all of the red flags, the mental
health issues, the long criminal record, and be able to
get a gun and get into a place where Charlie
Kirk wishes there were armed guards to protect these kids.
That's not why we have in a second Amendment, and
that's not what Charlie Kirk was talking about. And by
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the way, as I've always said when discussing this topic,
if you can find a way to take the guns
away from everybody so no one needs one, I'm willing
to have that conversation. But as soon as you admit
that's the stupidest thing anyone's ever thought, then maybe we're
not having a conversation. Or you realize that guy on
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the bus in Charlotte or the train in Charlotte wild
just grab a knife, and if someone had been more
vigilant and been allowed to protect that poor Ukrainian girl,
maybe she'd still be alive today, Which brings us to well,
how come the security then we had security there, armed security?
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How come they couldn't protect Charlie Kirk. We'll address that
after a Fox News update. Next, Scott voice play a
little bit of Susie Q by CCR because my buddy
Johnny says you should put SUSIEQ by CCR in your
music rotation, and I always do it as what I'm told.
He also sent me this message says, I haven't heard
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anyone talk about it, but this is the first time
in my life as an adult, I've seen I've seen
a public figure graphically murdered on video. Every kid with
the smartphone seen it too. As part of what makes
the killing of Charlie Kirk way different, young people will
be impacted greatly by this. The presumption then is that
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we're bringing more and more people to the conservative right,
to Christianity and away from the evil and radical left.
That is from Johnny sent via the Zonker's custom woods
in Box Scott at kfab dot com. Yeah, Johnny is
I think in my age range, and he's right in
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our lifetimes. You think about those of you you were
kids or teenagers in the sixties jfk rfk MLK. And
then someone tried to assassinate President Ford. Someone nearly assassinated
President Reagan, and in that stretch of with him in
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eighteen years or so, the Pope was shot in that stretch.
I mean, if you grew up, if you were ten
years old in the early sixties and now you're thirty
thirty five years old, your entire formative years there were
formed by one after the other not to mention what
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happened to Lee Harvey Oswald, and you had to think
this is just going to happen all the time, and
then it didn't for a long time. Not that everything
was all great. I mean, I'd like to think that
we spent the eighties and nineties just deciding whether we
wanted to go break dancing or start wearing some really
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flashy neon and see how high we could get our
flat top. Some of us did that, but all that
kind of cooled off for a while, and then nine
to eleven, and now we live in this world where
you got young people now wondering is this going to
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be the new normal, because the especially young people, my
son saw that video. I didn't want to wife, same thing,
my wife said. I tried to stay away from it.
I was on Instagram and there was someone I follow
on Instagram is not usually kind of like this, And
I was just scrolling down and suddenly banged there It
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was the image or the video whatever, And these images
never leave you, And I don't know how then people
do that. What I wonder about here are the people
who have been among those celebrating or letting everyone know
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their complete disinterest in Charlie Kirk dying. The reasons for
that we went over earlier in this program. It'll yes,
it'll all be posted on the Vintage Warheats podcast link
on the Scott Vorheas page at kfab dot com later
this morning. But for those people who are celebrating all
of this, are they willing to look in the mirror
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at what's going on in their lives and hearts that
they would feel that way? Doctor Drew Pinsk Yeah, no,
radio guy love line, but he's he's a great voice
in times like this. He was on Fox News on
Hannity last night.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I've noticed what people do with public figures these days
is they turned them into cartoon characters and they feel
at their liberty to act out on them again in
the mob of social media. But the reality is this
is bad for everybody's soul. It is harmful, and as
the Utah Governor pointed out, there, please look in the mirror.
You would have been a prison guard in nineteen thirty nine.
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You need to find your better angels. To quote the
governor himself and Abraham Lincoln, our better angels are in us,
amongst us as a country.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We can gather together.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
We have been through worse, but you have to find it,
and you have to look honestly at who you are.
If you were someone who yelled at somebody that they
had their mask below their nose, or you reported a
neighbor into the governor's hotline because he had a barbecue,
you would have been a prison guard in nineteen thirty nine.
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And you need to know that about yourself. Need to
check yourself. There are better angels there, Please bring them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Forward in in case you're not catching his reference. He's saying,
you'd be a member of the Gestapo, turning in Jews
is what he's saying. Harsh rhetoric, for sure. There are
people out there, though, who feel completely justified and well,
I have no problem, and he's the one who said
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and then they take whatever he said or they think
that he said. Let's just forsake of argument. Let's just
look at it like this. Let's say that for the
people who hate Charlie Kirk, let's say he's everything that
they say. He is hateful, massogynistic, racist kind of person
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who if you're at a party and there's one beer
left and you're both looking at it, he'd just snatch
it without even asking if you wanted it first. Like
the worst of the worst. He is the he's absolute evil. Okay,
what are you gonna do? Kill him? You're gonna kill him.
(30:20):
You're you're gonna you're going to shoot not just someone
who feels a way that is contrary to how you
feel about the political news of the day. You're going
to deprive two children under the age of three of
growing up with a dad. That's fine for you. We're gonna, yeah,
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we're gonna kill him. This guy, he he not only
goes around spewing his hatred, but he also has an
open microphone and invites dissent so they can have a
conversation about it. I thought that's what we were supposed
to do. And people say, well, I can't believe that
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the college was so that his security whatever was so
unprepared to not put him in a situation where he
could have not been shot. Yeah, you can certainly. Monday
morning quarterback this thing? Why didn't they have a drone?
Are you seriously not looking at sitelines on rooftops, especially
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what happened to Trump a year ago. I certainly don't
mind anyone having the conversation, but I imagine, I imagine, Lucy.
Let's actually I want to talk to you. You've been
sitting here looking at me. Do you think have you?
Let's put it this way, have you ever seen one
of those movies where they're following like the president or
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a political figure, and the President's like, I want to
go for a jog, but sir, we can't protect you.
Come on, you gotta let me live my life. I
want to go talk to the people, but sir, we
haven't secured the area. Come on, get off me. I've
got to go talk to the people. And then they
go in there and they're like, Wow, that's a president
who cares. That's a person living their life. Have you
ever seen one of those TV shows or movies?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Sure, sure, I didn't tell you what they were.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's good to hear your voice, Lucy. I've missed you.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
M the been here the whole time.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you think that they ever had a conversation with
Charlie Kirk and said, there are threats against your life,
we would advise you not to do these events. Yes,
And what do you think Charlie said, and yeah, okay,
so what am I? I just sit inside my home,
armed security, protecting my home so no one can come in.
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I never leave. Everything I need is sent to me,
and I just sit here in my house. I might
as well be shot dead. That is not the way
I want to live my life. And that's not what
I want. I want to go out there and prove
to people that you can in fight opposing viewpoints and
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have people walk away with a smile on their face.
Because oftentimes the people who were yelling at him the loudest,
oftentimes the media would talk to him and say, wow,
you just engage with Charlie Kirk and they're like, yeah,
it was fun. You know, they had fun with this.
Everyone was having fun whatever it was. And I know
we'll hear from this assassin why he thought he had
(33:25):
to do this. I'll just go back to what I
said earlier. There is still so much good and so
many good things happening, including statements joint statements from some
of these young Republican young Democrat groups who put out
joint statements condemning what happened here and saying we have
to do better, We have to live from the example
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of Charlie Kirk. Invited dissent, he wanted the discourse. He
stood up for what he believed in. We need more
of that without fear of being killed for it. These
joint statements from these groups. My son is fifteen years old. Yeah,
like a lot of kids, had spent time with this
tablet his phone watching videos, and every time I say
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what are you watching, it's something about basketball or it's
something watching They do this weird thing where they watch
other people play video games and comment on the games.
It's weird. I didn't know until two days ago that
my son knew who Charlie Kirk was. My son's not political,
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he says, Yeah, I've watched a lot of those videos.
They're cool, they're fun videos. He knew who Charlie Kirk was.
A lot of young people this is kind of their
JFK MLK moment. This was someone they looked up to,
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or at least listen to. What they had to say.
I'm curious then, what that next wave, especially of young people,
does in the wake of what we've experienced this week.
So many of your messages are so poignant, sweet, and
I appreciate every single one of them. We are out
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of time today to read any of them. But I'll
say this about all the messages in there. If you're
one of those who feels incredibly sad but hopeful about
whether anything good can come from the tragedy this week,
you are not alone. There's a lot of that here
in the inbox, And if I let Lucy Chapman speak,
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maybe she would feel the same way. But I didn't.
But I got thumbs up. Clay and Buck will take
it from here. They are next. Please have a wonderful,
wonderful weekend. Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven, Our News
Radio eleven ten KFAB
Scott Vordiez, twenty two year old suspect from Utah, not
a student at that college where Charlie Kirk met his
untimely end. Is in custody. No details on criminal history
or mental illness or whatever. Though, as you heard in
the news conference we carried to you live in the
last hour and the Fox News update a moment ago,
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he certainly had become more radicalized politically as of late
and apparently hated Charlie Kirk. Well, we can't round up
all of the young people who have become more radicalized
politically in the last couple of years and hate Charlie Kirk.
We don't have the room. No matter how many alligator
alcatrazes and Cornhusker clinks that we create, we don't have
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the room. I know some people look at the variety
of social media posts that they've seen. If you're on
social media, you have probably seen this, and, like me,
you had to decide do I want to argue with
this person, Do I want to tell this person I
don't appreciate their post, or do I just unfriend them?
(01:08):
Or Here's always a fun dynamic. You see a post
from someone who you know, and you either go, yeah,
I know she's pretty far left, but you know we
got along well in high school. I think I'll just
on Facebook. You can unfollow someone, you remain friends, but
you won't see their posts anymore. If I really adore
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you and I'm really disgusted by what you think, but
I don't see you ever in my life ever, I'll
probably just decide to unfollow and move on. There was
one guy who I knew pretty well in college who
suddenly popped off too and I was like, Wow, didn't
I didn't know we had it in him unfollow. People
(01:54):
look at that and go, I can't believe there's so
much hate and ill will in our society. Stay with
me for the second half of this little diatribe, please,
because the first half is pretty bleak. What do you mean,
I can't believe that there's so much hate and ill
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will in the society. Have you not been paying attention?
You got people out there who have been bemoaning that
Trump's shooter missed in Pennsylvania. You had people out there celebrating,
and women and guys thirsting. Oh we thirst. He is
a thirst magnet for the guy who murdered the CEO
(02:40):
of United healthcare, and people said, well, yeah, that CEO
deserved it. This guy, probably the murderer. He's a hero
and a martyr. Probably he was alike a lot of
people who had the insurance company cut off his insurance
and he needed care. Then we found out no, he
wasn't even among the insured for this company. He was
(03:03):
just crazy. He was just evil. But they didn't stop
people from going. But he's handsome. People out there celebrating
the murder of that man, people out there raising kids
who are filling our juvenile justice centers. People out there
(03:25):
decrying the removal of from our neighborhoods illegal immigrant gang members,
and they have the audacity to say we support immigrants.
That's not an immigrant. That's an illegal immigrant, murdering gang
member trying to sell drugs to your kids. We're going
to remove them from the neighborhood. No, And they're holding
on to his leg and following him to Uganda or whatever.
(03:50):
We got people out there who drive like a bunch
of drunken, crazed lunatics on their way to take home
run baseballs from kids. What do you mean, can't believe
there's this much ill will out there? Take a look
around you, ellen, we're at the third ring of Hell.
Christmas vacation ding. Do I have a flip side to that?
(04:18):
Thankfully I do, because I also spend time in society.
I see that stuff I just mentioned. It makes me sad.
Here's some other things I've seen or heard about right
here in our community. Recently, I went and went into
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an assisted living community. There's an older man in there
who and let's not look at the issues that might
be surrounding this, but this man loves Taylor Swift. Hey,
why not? And he thought, and he told the staff members,
I bet if we could, I bet we could try
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and convince Taylor Swift to stop by here. After all,
Kansas City is only a couple of hours south of here.
Maybe she'll come by. And the staff members, rather than
going okay, Harold, they said, you know what, let's have
a Taylor Swift party. I walked in there the other
day and everyone had on party hats where they had
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signs everywhere saying, you know, hey, we love Taylor stuff
like that, And this guy was king for a day.
They decided to buy into his delusion that Taylor Swift
would come visit him. And you know what, crazier things
have happened, right, But they thought, hey, we can either
(05:44):
dismiss this and go on about. And let's face it,
working at an assisted living community that is sometimes a
pretty thankless job. You've got a couple hundred residents in there,
every single one of them is having the most important
problem right now. We don't have a couple hundred staff members.
It's tough. And these staff members, rather than going okay, decided,
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you know what, let's have a party. It was a blast.
They even got a snow cone truck to come park
in the parking lot and give snow cones to everyone.
They thought, let's have a party. That happened at our
same society. My son was telling me about his basketball
teammates who were having a particularly arduous workout after school
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recently on a very hot day. There was one kid,
a little bigger, little slower than everyone else, and he
was really struggling. And rather than mock him or ignore
him or be annoyed that they'd all finish this particular
workout and he was still struggling with it, they ran
back on that field. They ran back on that field
(07:05):
until he fought acrossed the finish line. With them by
his side. Stuff like this that gets me. And we
see this every single day in our communities. Governor Cox
Utah s all right, I didn't know that was gonna
get me, but that got me. Governor Cox at Utah
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said that there were vigils, not riots, not people setting
fire to cars and chucking Molotov cocktails through storefront windows.
There were vigils the students at the University of Nebraska Lincoln.
I can't vouch for the veracity of the story, but
I've sun you you've seen this on social media as well.
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This guy was out there just sitting there at a
little table with signs saying Charlie Kirk deserved it, and
rather than beat his ever loving face in, they picked
him up and they threw him him in the fountain
he was sitting in front of. And there are people
out there who had a very very different opinion than
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Charlie Kirk, and they debated him with a smile on
their face, laughing with him. My statement, Slash question is
would you agree, Slash disagreed.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That the make America movement make America great movement again?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know Magma movement is a cult. No, why don't
you explain to me and the audience what is a cult?
Of course? Okay, do you know any characteristics of a cult?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean you could take the Jonestown death cult, of
which there was a I don't know, a charismatic leader
that constantly lied peopled and they took him out of
everyday normal life and leads them towards ostrization and cutting
off of family ties.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Am I am?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I getting closer? I mean the Democrat according to.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That Now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
She's laughing, he's laughing. The crowd is laughing that people
think that this guy is Hitler youth. And he just
goes out there and says, and hey, we hate gays
and we hate blacks, and we hate Democrats and they
should all die. And it's okay, as some kids in
a school die because of a gun death once in
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a while, so I can have my gun. And then
he pulls out his gun and starts licking it, and
the crowd's like, yeah, this is what we do with
these could not be further from the truth. But what
about that quote, Scott, are you going to get to
that quote you said you were going to get to.
I went in a little different direction here. I kind
(09:46):
of apologize. You'll hear the quote. What is this quote
that some people are using as the basis of their
celebration or mockery or disinterest in connection with the death
of Charlie Kirk. You'll hear it next, I promise Scotties
News Radio KFAB. You'll see some of these social media posts,
(10:10):
some of these commentators on the network say, well, you know,
Charlie did say that, and they'll either give you the
exact quote or they will just make up what they
think their version of it is. But Charlie Kirk said, quote,
I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately
(10:32):
some gun deaths every single year so that we can
have the Second Amendment. Unquote. That is part of what
he said. Here is about a minute surrounding that quote.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So we need to be very clear that you're not
going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen.
You can significantly reduce them thre having more fathers in
the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools.
We should have an honest and clear reductionist view of
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gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.
You will never live in a society when you have
an armed citizenry, and you won't have a single gun death.
That is nonsense. It's driven, but I think it's I
think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have
a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year
so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect
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our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal.
It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in
a complete, alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So that is part of a larger, longer conversation. I'll
read the entire thing here. But did Charlie Kirk say
that part that sentence that people have keyed in on
as eloquently as possible. Do you think that if he
were writing a book, do you think he would phrase
it exactly in that way. I think that maybe a
(12:02):
word or two would be changed. I think if you
just take guess, I'll tell you what people are doing.
They see the quote or they get the impression that
there was like a school shooting, and Charlie Kirk came
out five minutes later and said, yep, hey, what do
you want. I need my gun so if that kid
has to die so I can have my gun. Well,
(12:23):
I guess that's just fine. That's what's gonna happen? You know,
that's what some people. Why how could have someone hate
someone so much unless they've been told, they've been made
to think, they've been able to rationalize within their own selves.
This is a guy who doesn't care if your kid
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dies so that he can have his gun. You know,
when you look at it that way, you can almost
see where some people are like, yeah, he got what
he deserved. Right, let's listen to Well, I'm going to
read for you because I can't find the entire video
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surrounding all of this. I can only find that clip.
Here's the entire conversation. Audience member says, how's it going, Charlie,
I'm Austin. I just had a question related to Second
Amendment rights. We saw the shooting that happened recently. This
was in twenty twenty three, and a lot of people
are upset. But I'm seeing people argue for the other
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side that they want to take Second Amendment rights away.
How do we convince them that it's important to have
the right to defend ourselves and all that good stuff.
Charlie Kirk says, yeah, great question, thank you. So I'm
a big Second Amendment fan, but I think most politicians
are cowards when it comes to defending why we have
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a second Amendment. This is why I would not be
a good politician. Or maybe I would. I don't know,
because I actually speak my mind. The Second Amendment is
not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is
not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second
Amendment is there God forbid so that you can defend
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yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you, wow,
that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that. Well, then
you have not really read any of the literature of
our founding fathers. Number two, You've not read any twentieth
century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way,
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if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser
than wherever you're living because C. S. Lewis was really smart.
So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in.
You just don't want to face reality that governments tend
to get tyrannical, and that if people need an ability
to protect themselves and their communities and their families. Now
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we must also be real, We must be honest with
the population. Having an armed citizenry. It comes with a price,
and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price.
Fifty thousand, fifty thousand, fifty thousand people die on the
road every year. That's a price you get rid of driving.
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You'd have fifty thousand fewer auto fatalities. But we've decided
that the benefit of driving, speed, accessibility, mobility, having product
services is worth the cost of fifty thousand people dying
on the road. So we need to be very clear
that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero.
(15:37):
This is the quote we just heard. I'll let him
say this far. So you heard everything leading up to this,
and then Charlie Kirk says.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So we need to be very clear that you're not
going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen.
You can significantly reduce them thre having more fathers in
the home. Yes, by having more armed guards in front
of schools. We should have an honest and clear reductionist
(16:07):
view of gun violence, but we should not have a
utopian one. You will never live in a society when
you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a
single gun death. That is nonsense.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's drivel.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But I think it's I think it's worth it. I
think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some
gun deaths every single year so that we can have
the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.
That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks
like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Here's the end to what Charlie Kirk said after that,
So then how do you reduce very simple people say, oh, Charlie,
how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How
do we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have
armed guards outside of baseball games, that's why. How do
we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed
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guards out side of airports. How do we stop the
shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks.
How do we stop all the shootings at gun shows?
Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows.
There's all those guns because everyone's armed. If our money
and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards,
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why don't our children. That's what Charlie Kirk said surrounding
the quote that some people who hate his guts and
maybe they read all of that. I highly doubt it.
I don't know how anyone can read all of that
and not say I don't like that he said it.
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But somewhere in there, maybe begrudgingly, these people who hate
his guts and hate conservatism and see him as young
Trump and activating a bunch of young Trumpet mag of people,
they might concede in there, maybe he's got a point.
But what does he sound like someone who doesn't care
(18:08):
if a kid dies? Not to me that that's not
the impression I get from all of this. Now, if
one of your incredibly lefty liberal friends shares on social
media just a quick headliner Charlie Kirk doesn't Charlie Kirk
says it's worth it to have gun deaths so that
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we can have a second Amendment. You just see that.
Your brain's gonna go in a lot of different directions,
Like what did he mean by that? Does he not care?
Does he say, hey, I don't care, Just hey, get
the pacifier out of the kid's mouth and give him
a gun. Come on, let's go read, listen, follow what
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the man had actually said. Do you think if anyone
who honestly either wanted to kill Charlie Kirk did kill
Charlie Kirk, or celebrated, mocked, or showed a level of
disinterest at the death of Charlie Kirk. Do you think
any of them had read everything I just presented to you.
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I highly doubt it. That's putting in the work. When
Charlie Kirk says the reason we had when so that
quote that everyone says, this is awful. I think it's
worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths
every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.
(19:38):
That's the quote. If they do quote him directly and accurately,
that's the pole quote. What they leave out is the
Second Amendment is there so you can defend yourself against
a tyrannical government. And you know, it's funny, every four
to eight years, you got half the people in the
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country who suddenly fear we have a tyrannical government in place.
We have a tyrant. He's gonna declare martial law. Everyone's
gonna be rounded up because of the color of their skin,
or their sexual orientation, or because they're gonna come after
our guns. And everyone suddenly, if you're a firearms owner,
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you're gonna be put on a list, and we're gonna
come after you, and we're not gonna be able to vote,
and there's gonna be pandemics. And I mean, depending on
who's in office. You got half the population looking at
that administration going this is why we have a second Amendment,
and you start hearing the Thomas Jefferson quotes the tree
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of liberty has to be watered with the blood of
the innocent or what. I don't remember exactly what the
quote is, but you know what, as crazy as it
is when you're driving around and you see a guy
out there with his snake flag out there, and you're like,
I know that guy's want to be militia member. Hey,
I don't know if you've noticed, but in history in
this country and certainly like probably going on today in
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some other country, there's a tyrannical government or there's a
faction of our population willingly going after our own people
and trying to start a coup. What what are you
gonna do. You look down the street and you see,
I don't know, the president sending the military after you.
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You see an armed populace coming out there, and like,
we're gonna just drag everyone out of their homes and
kill them. If we don't like the look on their face.
You look, you see that coming down the street. You
look tow you're left and you see two houses. One's
got the gay Pride flag and the other guy has
got the American flag, a snake flag, the pow Mia flag,
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and that guy dresses in camo all the time. Which
house you going to? You're going to go visit snake flag? Tom,
aren't you?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Tom? Hety me, Gary, Yeah, I know, we don't really
talk very much. Hey, I just wondering if we can
come in. You've got a compound down there, right, You've
got a safe room, You've got beans and water and
all that that stuff. What do they call you guys? Preppers?
I've always supported that, Tom, Can I come in? Can
my family come in? That stuff happens. That's why we
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have a second Amendment. And the reason one of the
big reasons why you haven't seen any of these aforementioned
tyrants that you think have occupied our olefal office suddenly
start coming after the citizenry. But Trump in the National Garden,
DC quiet. The reason you haven't seen all this happening
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is because we have a very large armed population. Tom
is ready to go. Tom's ready for that fight. He
might be a little too ready, might be a little
too ready, but there are a lot of him out there.
That's why we have the Second Amendment, not so school
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shooters can bypass all of the red flags, the mental
health issues, the long criminal record, and be able to
get a gun and get into a place where Charlie
Kirk wishes there were armed guards to protect these kids.
That's not why we have in a second Amendment, and
that's not what Charlie Kirk was talking about. And by
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the way, as I've always said when discussing this topic,
if you can find a way to take the guns
away from everybody so no one needs one, I'm willing
to have that conversation. But as soon as you admit
that's the stupidest thing anyone's ever thought, then maybe we're
not having a conversation. Or you realize that guy on
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the bus in Charlotte or the train in Charlotte wild
just grab a knife, and if someone had been more
vigilant and been allowed to protect that poor Ukrainian girl,
maybe she'd still be alive today, Which brings us to well,
how come the security then we had security there, armed security?
(24:15):
How come they couldn't protect Charlie Kirk. We'll address that
after a Fox News update. Next, Scott voice play a
little bit of Susie Q by CCR because my buddy
Johnny says you should put SUSIEQ by CCR in your
music rotation, and I always do it as what I'm told.
He also sent me this message says, I haven't heard
(24:36):
anyone talk about it, but this is the first time
in my life as an adult, I've seen I've seen
a public figure graphically murdered on video. Every kid with
the smartphone seen it too. As part of what makes
the killing of Charlie Kirk way different, young people will
be impacted greatly by this. The presumption then is that
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we're bringing more and more people to the conservative right,
to Christianity and away from the evil and radical left.
That is from Johnny sent via the Zonker's custom woods
in Box Scott at kfab dot com. Yeah, Johnny is
I think in my age range, and he's right in
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our lifetimes. You think about those of you you were
kids or teenagers in the sixties jfk rfk MLK. And
then someone tried to assassinate President Ford. Someone nearly assassinated
President Reagan, and in that stretch of with him in
(25:47):
eighteen years or so, the Pope was shot in that stretch.
I mean, if you grew up, if you were ten
years old in the early sixties and now you're thirty
thirty five years old, your entire formative years there were
formed by one after the other not to mention what
(26:10):
happened to Lee Harvey Oswald, and you had to think
this is just going to happen all the time, and
then it didn't for a long time. Not that everything
was all great. I mean, I'd like to think that
we spent the eighties and nineties just deciding whether we
wanted to go break dancing or start wearing some really
(26:31):
flashy neon and see how high we could get our
flat top. Some of us did that, but all that
kind of cooled off for a while, and then nine
to eleven, and now we live in this world where
you got young people now wondering is this going to
(26:53):
be the new normal, because the especially young people, my
son saw that video. I didn't want to wife, same thing,
my wife said. I tried to stay away from it.
I was on Instagram and there was someone I follow
on Instagram is not usually kind of like this, And
I was just scrolling down and suddenly banged there It
(27:14):
was the image or the video whatever, And these images
never leave you, And I don't know how then people
do that. What I wonder about here are the people
who have been among those celebrating or letting everyone know
(27:35):
their complete disinterest in Charlie Kirk dying. The reasons for
that we went over earlier in this program. It'll yes,
it'll all be posted on the Vintage Warheats podcast link
on the Scott Vorheas page at kfab dot com later
this morning. But for those people who are celebrating all
of this, are they willing to look in the mirror
(27:59):
at what's going on in their lives and hearts that
they would feel that way? Doctor Drew Pinsk Yeah, no,
radio guy love line, but he's he's a great voice
in times like this. He was on Fox News on
Hannity last night.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I've noticed what people do with public figures these days
is they turned them into cartoon characters and they feel
at their liberty to act out on them again in
the mob of social media. But the reality is this
is bad for everybody's soul. It is harmful, and as
the Utah Governor pointed out, there, please look in the mirror.
You would have been a prison guard in nineteen thirty nine.
(28:36):
You need to find your better angels. To quote the
governor himself and Abraham Lincoln, our better angels are in us,
amongst us as a country.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We can gather together.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
We have been through worse, but you have to find it,
and you have to look honestly at who you are.
If you were someone who yelled at somebody that they
had their mask below their nose, or you reported a
neighbor into the governor's hotline because he had a barbecue,
you would have been a prison guard in nineteen thirty nine.
(29:06):
And you need to know that about yourself. Need to
check yourself. There are better angels there, Please bring them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Forward in in case you're not catching his reference. He's saying,
you'd be a member of the Gestapo, turning in Jews
is what he's saying. Harsh rhetoric, for sure. There are
people out there, though, who feel completely justified and well,
I have no problem, and he's the one who said
(29:34):
and then they take whatever he said or they think
that he said. Let's just forsake of argument. Let's just
look at it like this. Let's say that for the
people who hate Charlie Kirk, let's say he's everything that
they say. He is hateful, massogynistic, racist kind of person
(29:58):
who if you're at a party and there's one beer
left and you're both looking at it, he'd just snatch
it without even asking if you wanted it first. Like
the worst of the worst. He is the he's absolute evil. Okay,
what are you gonna do? Kill him? You're gonna kill him.
(30:20):
You're you're gonna you're going to shoot not just someone
who feels a way that is contrary to how you
feel about the political news of the day. You're going
to deprive two children under the age of three of
growing up with a dad. That's fine for you. We're gonna, yeah,
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we're gonna kill him. This guy, he he not only
goes around spewing his hatred, but he also has an
open microphone and invites dissent so they can have a
conversation about it. I thought that's what we were supposed
to do. And people say, well, I can't believe that
(31:08):
the college was so that his security whatever was so
unprepared to not put him in a situation where he
could have not been shot. Yeah, you can certainly. Monday
morning quarterback this thing? Why didn't they have a drone?
Are you seriously not looking at sitelines on rooftops, especially
(31:28):
what happened to Trump a year ago. I certainly don't
mind anyone having the conversation, but I imagine, I imagine, Lucy.
Let's actually I want to talk to you. You've been
sitting here looking at me. Do you think have you?
Let's put it this way, have you ever seen one
of those movies where they're following like the president or
(31:49):
a political figure, and the President's like, I want to
go for a jog, but sir, we can't protect you.
Come on, you gotta let me live my life. I
want to go talk to the people, but sir, we
haven't secured the area. Come on, get off me. I've
got to go talk to the people. And then they
go in there and they're like, Wow, that's a president
who cares. That's a person living their life. Have you
ever seen one of those TV shows or movies?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Sure, sure, I didn't tell you what they were.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's good to hear your voice, Lucy. I've missed you.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
M the been here the whole time.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you think that they ever had a conversation with
Charlie Kirk and said, there are threats against your life,
we would advise you not to do these events. Yes,
And what do you think Charlie said, and yeah, okay,
so what am I? I just sit inside my home,
armed security, protecting my home so no one can come in.
(32:42):
I never leave. Everything I need is sent to me,
and I just sit here in my house. I might
as well be shot dead. That is not the way
I want to live my life. And that's not what
I want. I want to go out there and prove
to people that you can in fight opposing viewpoints and
(33:03):
have people walk away with a smile on their face.
Because oftentimes the people who were yelling at him the loudest,
oftentimes the media would talk to him and say, wow,
you just engage with Charlie Kirk and they're like, yeah,
it was fun. You know, they had fun with this.
Everyone was having fun whatever it was. And I know
we'll hear from this assassin why he thought he had
(33:25):
to do this. I'll just go back to what I
said earlier. There is still so much good and so
many good things happening, including statements joint statements from some
of these young Republican young Democrat groups who put out
joint statements condemning what happened here and saying we have
to do better, We have to live from the example
(33:48):
of Charlie Kirk. Invited dissent, he wanted the discourse. He
stood up for what he believed in. We need more
of that without fear of being killed for it. These
joint statements from these groups. My son is fifteen years old. Yeah,
like a lot of kids, had spent time with this
tablet his phone watching videos, and every time I say
(34:11):
what are you watching, it's something about basketball or it's
something watching They do this weird thing where they watch
other people play video games and comment on the games.
It's weird. I didn't know until two days ago that
my son knew who Charlie Kirk was. My son's not political,
(34:33):
he says, Yeah, I've watched a lot of those videos.
They're cool, they're fun videos. He knew who Charlie Kirk was.
A lot of young people this is kind of their
JFK MLK moment. This was someone they looked up to,
(34:53):
or at least listen to. What they had to say.
I'm curious then, what that next wave, especially of young people,
does in the wake of what we've experienced this week.
So many of your messages are so poignant, sweet, and
I appreciate every single one of them. We are out
(35:13):
of time today to read any of them. But I'll
say this about all the messages in there. If you're
one of those who feels incredibly sad but hopeful about
whether anything good can come from the tragedy this week,
you are not alone. There's a lot of that here
in the inbox, And if I let Lucy Chapman speak,
(35:35):
maybe she would feel the same way. But I didn't.
But I got thumbs up. Clay and Buck will take
it from here. They are next. Please have a wonderful,
wonderful weekend. Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven, Our News
Radio eleven ten KFAB
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