Anyone Else Go to Church Yesterday?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgiz. Anyone else who maybe hasn't been in a while,
go to church yesterday, or if you're right now judging me,
going I'm in church every Sunday, all right. Anyone who
goes to church regularly, go to church yesterday and go

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with a renewed sense of purpose. That's the sense I
got yesterday in church. And as we were in church,
I wanted to start off this morning paraphrasing the pastor
that we were listening to yesterday. This is not my
regular church. As I've said before on the radio. My

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wife is Catholic, our kids are being raised Catholic, and
so we often go to Catholic Mass. Yesterday, though, we
were inspired to go someplace different. We have a lot
of friends at this church, and I'm a big fan.
The church is just off about one hundred and ninetieth

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and Dodge, just south of there. It's called Grace Hill.
It's a church been around for about a decade, used
to being a strip mall in Elkhorn, and now they've
got a big, new, beautiful building in that vicinity of
West Omaha. The pastor is Justin Bell, and Justin Pastor
Bell said that he said, I want to say a

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few things about Charlie Kirk. And he noted that Jesus
never promised that everything would be just ducky in this line,
again I'm paraphrasing. This is mostly my phrasing, but this
is the inspiration I got from Pastor Justin Bell at
Grace Hill. He said, Jesus said there'd be a cost
for following him, that there would be sacrifice. And he noted,

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you know Charlie Kirk, and he said, look, not perfect,
he's a sinner like all of us, but he's our
brother in Christ. And he said, Charlie Kirk wasn't killed
for his conservative views on taxes, you know, his thoughts
on the budget, his thoughts on property taxes. He wasn't

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killed because of his his thoughts on smaller government. Charlie
Kirk was killed because of his steadfast belief in the
teachings of the Bible and how that shaped his worldview
and certainly his politics. That's why he was killed. Yeah,

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I hadn't really thought about it specifically in that term.
And as I as I noted on the radio last
week on Thursday, which was the twenty fourth anniversary of
September eleventh, it certainly hurts to see anyone have their

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life taken from them, especially because of the political rhetoric
in this country or whatever it was that caused that
to happen. I don't know that there's a reason you
could give me for what happened where I would say, oh, okay,
well that makes sense, Yeah, it was self defense. I

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didn't see it. You know, this man was murdered. And
I noted on Thursday, on the anniversary of September eleventh,
that it had a very interesting sad feeling to it
that was different than nine to eleven, because on nine

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to eleven, we were all incredibly sad, and we saw
people celebrating what happened to this country, and it was them.
It was people over there, foreign lands, people waving flags,
burning American flags. All the rest is still waving their
nation's flags or whatever, burning American flags and shouting and
chanting death to a Satan America and all the rest

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of this stuff. There were a lot of people celebrating
what happened to this country twenty four years ago this
past Thursday, and it was them, which was kind of
a way to cause Americans to rally around each other
after Charlie Kirk died immediately and sadly, in the days

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that followed, there are a lot of people celebrating the
death of Charlie Kirk. And it's not them, it's us.
It's Americans, not only Americans, it's people that you know
on your social media. And I was very sad when
we were getting the details about Charlie Kirk. And then

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every time I have gone on to social media, I
get sad again. I see someone either who I know,
or there are some people whose names I recognize because
we've been connected on Facebook or whatever for so long,
and I see their comments where they either are mocking

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and celebrating Charlie Kirk and his death, or they just
got to let you know how indifferent they are to it.
For whatever reason. They just look, that's not indifference. If
something happens to someone and you decide whatever is going
on in your brain, that you have an indifference to it,

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you just go on about your life and you work,
and you feed your family and try not to crash
in anyone on your way home and whatever it is
that you do. When you go on to social media
and you tell people like, hey, I'm indifferent to this. No,
you're not not anymore now you had to tell everyone
about it. But those are the posts that are a

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lot more palatable than a lot of what I'm sure
that you've seen, either from people you know, or people
who teach your kids, or this guy who's in charge
of this, or this elected representative over here. There's a
lot of that out here, or someone who plays on
the Nebraska volleyball team. And there's been a lot of conversation.
I just talked to Gary and Jim about that. It'll

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probably come up a little bit later in this program,
but there have been a number of people that said, well, wow,
why do people feel this way? And it's either because
they have been following what Charlie Kirk has actually said
very closely and they hate it, or there have been

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other people who have told them what Charlie Kirk said
and believes and how you know. And you'll see some
of the give and take of people at his rallies.
There were people that came up to him at his
events and they were able to get a microphone because
Charlie Kirk invited them to do so, and they had
to tell him, you know what a fascist, pig, racist, misogynists,

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you know, anti this and that person he was, And
Charlie would say, well, what have I What have I
specifically said? That's hateful, that's racist, that's whatever it is
you're accusing me of. And as it's always the same thing,
you say this stuff all the time, well then it
should be pretty easy to find something specific I've said

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that you would find to be whatever that you're accusing
me of being, and they never can. So why is
it that so many people have so many very strong
feelings about this person? Well, because he's Charlie's was easy

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to access. He would go onto these college campuses, he
would go into these cities and towns, he would invite
the discourse, he would post the videos, and he he
was easy to follow. He was easy to access. But

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as far as deciding that he was somehow the personification
of this fascism that incorporates Trump, Maga, the Republican Party,
people who waive American flags, Christians, whatever, well, I think
you have to drill down a little bit further to

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find out where people are getting this idea. A couple
of weeks ago, on this radio show, I discussed the
term fascism as it relates to conservative movement and how
it doesn't exactly jibe. Will do that again, and I
will read for you the very long list of either

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elected and or influential politicians who have been planning the seed,
watering it, cultivating it, watching it grow, putting the little
light over it, making sure it gets enough sun that
would cause people to hate people like Charlie Kirk. That's
coming up next, Scott Gordies. Well you news Radio elevenfab

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the term fascist, fascism, anti fascist. You know, the antifa
is supposed to be an anti fascist movement we've seen
come up in the streets. And I went through this
and I don't know, probably took a lot more time
than I needed to on the radio a few weeks ago.
I don't even remember why. But here's the Can I

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still use the term lucy? The Reader's Digest Condensed version.
Do people know what I'm talking about when I say
that it's still in print? Yeah? Is it? Yeah? I
haven't I missed the Reader's Digest. But yes, you can
use that, Okay, kids, there was a monthly publication that
would dense all right, never mind, Here's the Reader's Digest

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condensed version, the cliff Notes version, the AI Google AI
encapsulation of what that entire rant was all about. Fascism
is authoritarian rule by a charismatic leader, and all of
us sycophants do exactly whatever it is that that leader

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tells them to do. And there is no allowance for
opposition against the deer leader in a fascist dictatorship. And
I know all the anti Trumpers are like, exactly, that's
exactly what we have. Yeah, it's not. The American people voted,

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and not just for the President of the United States,
but members of Congress as well as in all these
different elected position all the way down to the dog
catcher in tempe Arizona. The people are out there voting,
and as is the American way, our patchwork quilt changes

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from red to blue to purple from time to time.
The one thing you can count on with the American
voting populace is you can never count on them to
do the same thing in successive elections, hardly ever. So
that's just that's the American political will and who goes
out and votes and what it is that is at
the top of their mind when they're doing so, and

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they're all allowed to do it, and so as such,
we don't have fascism. Fascism is stuff like tying up
your political opponent in court with fake charges over and
over again. Censorship on social media, restrictions because we don't

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want you to get together for a church service or
a school or a football game or whatever. We've decided
that the national health and safety is more important than
your ability to vote in ways that you used to.
And now we're going to allow this type of voting
and not allow that, and we're going to change the
rules on election day and that kind of thing. Those

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are examples of fascism. But you know what, this is
how the political game has been played in this country.
At no point what I sit here and try and call,
you know, the head of the Democratic National Convention or
the head of the party, whether that was President Biden,

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vice President Harris, whatever. At no point when I sit
here and try and liken them to Hitler. But when
you think of fascism, when you think of nazis what
you think of Hitler. And there are a number of
whether it's individual or Hollywood dreams out there about what

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if you could go back in time and kill Hitler?
Wouldn't life be a lot better if you could go
back in time and kill Hitler. Why are there so
many people who think that it's perfectly okay to take
a shot at Donald Trump, or threaten the life of
a Supreme Court justice, or actually kill Charlie Kirk and

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then have people celebrating it. Because there are a number
of people who've been led to believe that all of
these people, all this conservative movement, this is Nazi Germany
welling up and I don't know who exactly all of
the MAGA supporters are supposed to go out and kill
or oppress or whatever. But they feel like they're completely

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justified in reacting with violence, because, after all, wouldn't you
do it if you had a chance to go back
in time? Diamond kill Hitler. The bullet casing announced by
Utah Governor Spencer Cock is that one of the bullet
casings was had the message it said, hey fascist catch

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on a shell casing that was used. I don't know
if this is the one that was spent or what.
But this continual coming back to looking at conservatives as fascist.
So where do people get this idea? Here's just a
list and this comes from the Republican National Committee Deputy
Rapid Response Director Sonali Patel who just came up with

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this list and quotes for people. Kamala Harris. Donald Trump
is a fascist. Tim Wattz Donald Trump is a fascist
to his core. Congressman Dan Goldman of New York. Trump
is a fascist dictator and paving the way to become
Aidolf Hitler. Congressman Jamie Raskin, Democrat from Maryland. Republicans are

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a fascist political party. A member of Congress Delia Ramirez,
Democrat from Illinois. The Trump administration is a fascist regime.
Jasmine Crockett, congresswoman from Texas. Trump is quote Timu Hitler
un quote. He's not quite good enough to be Hitler.

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He's a cheap version of Hitler. He's Timu Hitler website.
You can get cheap stuff from China. Timu Hitler. Alexandria
Okazio Cortez very popular member of Congress, Democrat from New York.

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The Trump administration is fascist. Democrat Congressman Mark Poquan of Wisconsin.
Trump is taking the role of a fascist authoritarian. Aana
Presley representative representing Massachusetts as a Democrat. Donald Trump is
a all caps on social media fascist. Beto O'Rourke Texas

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otherwise known as Robert. We don't await the punch throne
by these would be fascist to land. We punch first,
and we punch harder. And Governor J. B. Pritzker, Democrat,
governor of Illinois, has invoked the Holocaust in comparing the
Trump administration to Nazi Germany. So why is it that

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so many people, especially influential young people, are celebrating the
death of Charlie Kirk and saying he's a fascist and
Hell's supporters or white supremacist Nazi Hitler youth and all that,
because this is what they have been told over and
over and over again. We if we end up seeing

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one of these reimagined historical works of fiction that shows
Hitler killed before he could go on to be Hitler,
Everyone's like, yeah, So why then would this whole collection
of young people in this country have any other reaction

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when they've been told Charlie Kirk is a dangerous fascist
and he and Trump are would be Hitler's and they're
trying to cause authoritarianism or authoritarianism and fascism to come
across this country. And when we we don't await them

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to do what they're gonna do, we punch first, and
we punch harder. They that's why they're so happy, because
that's who they were told. Charlie Kirk was as I
said last week, you know who would have loved to
have had this conversation with them if they felt this way.

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Charlie Kirk live microphone in front of thousands of people,
cameras rolling. Anyone could post anything they want from social media.
People say, well, these posts on social media, they are
only posts that make Charlie Kirk look good. Anyone can
have their camera going during these conversations, and there are

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plenty of videos out there where people say, oh, look
at this guy, own Charlie Kirk. Someone else will watch
it and go, look at Charlie Kirk. Own this guy,
because that's what you do. You don't win a debate,
you own somebody. So, I mean, there's any number of
things out there if you're looking for these conversations. But

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Charlie Kirk would have loved it with a smile on
his face. Someone would have stepped up there and said,
I think you and Trump are both versions of hit
and you're fascist. Charlie Kirk's like, okay, why do you
feel this way? And then have this conversation rebut points,
but allow the person to speak. Charlie would have loved

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this conversation. In fact, he probably had it time and
time again at every single one of these rallies. And
as I said last week, if this gunman wanted some
measure of fame, he could have gotten it. He could
have gone up to that, He could have gone to

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the rally where Charlie Kirk was having the event, got
in front of the microphone and shut Charlie Kirk down
with this incredible, dizzying verbal argument and incredible intellect. But
as that was not an option for him, he decided
to take the cowardly sniper's way out, and for that
he gets no fame. But you can understand why there

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are so many people out there that think he's a hero.
He just killed Hitler, right, he stopped fascism in America.
Isn't this something to celebrate. It's so sad that people
have that impression of saying fascism is suppressing different political thoughts.

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Charlie Kirk had these events to welcome political opposition, to
hear what they had to say, to talk with them
about these things. That is the exact opposite of fascism
and it's what he did every single week. Scott Voices
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