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October 13, 2025 • 16 mins
A few minutes with the "Pom Pom Girls" star before his OmahaFilmEvent.com screening on Oct. 24th.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Gordis one of the greatest songs of all time.
Right here, Lucy, do you know what this is from? Yeah?
This but answers one of my questions whether or not
Revenge of the Nerds was popular with with girls. I'm sorry,

(00:26):
not girls. Back to Revenge of the Nerds for this clip.
We're allowed to have girls in our dorm room.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Not girls, Gil women.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
We're college men now, not girls, Gil women. We're college girls. Now.
That is Lewis. Yeah, that is Lewis. Sorry, we're collegemen now,
that's right. Sorry, that's Lewis Skolnick from Revenge of the Nerds.
Actor Robert Carrodine, who got his start in a John
Wayne film called The Cowboys. He didn't want to do

(00:54):
it this way, mister night Linger, but we knew you
wouldn't give them to us.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So we're gonna get the heard back from his mister
Anderson taking on to Belle Fush, you're gonna get yourselves killed.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
We're gonna finish John and now it is a pleasure
to welcome on to eleven ten kfab ahead of the
event hosted by Omaha Omaha's film historian Bruce Crawford later
this month, it's coming up on Friday, October twenty fourth.
It is a screening of the John Wayne film The Cowboys,
and that actor Robert Carrodine joins us here on eleven

(01:29):
ten KFAB. Good morning, Robert, Good morning, sir. So let's
talk here first about that film The Cowboys. You're a
pretty young guy. How old were you when you were
in that film?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
What was your level of knowledge or worship regarding John Wayne.
Was he someone that you were like, wow, John Wayne,
or you're like, oh, yeah, my dad likes John Wayne.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, it's funny you should mention that because I
was living with my brother David at the time, who
was a bit left of John Wayne. And uh, most
people people were.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Most people were.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, I have a bit of a hippie attitude
when I got to the location, and by the time
we finished the film, I had nothing but admiration for
the man.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, well, John Wayne. This comes from an age where
as I understand that John Wayne would write letters to
President Jimmy Carter and sign them, you know, a member
of the loyal opposition, your friend John Wayne, and tell
him how to run the country. But it wasn't personal
it wasn't angry, it wasn't name calling. You know, that's

(02:42):
that's kind of where men like John Wayne came from.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think, Yeah, he was the genuine deal. I remember
I've been on location for about three or four days
and we were shooting a scene and I felt that
the line that he was saying to me was wrong.
It needed to be modified. So I suggested how he
should say the line, and the entire one hundred and

(03:10):
twenty five man woman crew you could hear a pin
drop and we were outside in the middle of the
raging desert of New Mexico. And then he let me
know that that's not acceptable to tell him how to
do a line. Really, So that was a pretty interesting
moment in my life. I never forgot it, and I
keep telling people about it and they can't believe I

(03:31):
did it. I mean, seventeen years old telling John Wayne
how to do a line.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, what were you right?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yes? I was, because when you watched the movie he
actually made the adjustment, did he really?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So he told you never give him notes and then
took the note and changed the line. Yes, ah, that
is beautiful, and that's part of what you'll get when
Robert Carodine is here in Omaha on Friday, October twenty fourth,
seven o'clock screening of The Cowboys at the Omaha Community Playhouse.
And then you get Robert out to tell stories like that.

(04:07):
I don't want to waste all of your stories about
the Cowboys, Robert, all the details by the way at
Omaha Film event dot com. But this is gonna be
so cool having you here in Omaha. I instead want
to talk.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's a real pleasure for me to get to see
the film on the big screen, because you don't get
to do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, it's obviously it's The Cowboys is a beloved classic film.
But all of John Wayne's movies are essentially beloved classic films.
You can't screen all of them all the time. So
it's it's cool to have you here. Quite a cast
in that movie. I mean there, you're dressing down. I
forget the actor's name who you're talking to there. I

(04:51):
know him from Jumping Jack Flash. He has a pivotal
role on.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Brown.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, Roscoe Lee Brown in that one. What an incredible
mean that guy, the gravitas and everything that actor ever
did so good.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, absolutely, he was a real piece of work. I
can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And you in this film a slim honeycut. Did you
ever say, Look, I would rather my character not be
known as slim honeycut. I have to go back to
school on Monday.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Ah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, So, how was it then? Like your first movie
is a John Wayne movie. What happened next in your career?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think I was off duty for about eighteen months
and then I did a episode of Bonanza.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Not bad, not bad when it comes to eighteen month
break was not great. Yeah, well, certainly you want to
keep working. And then you did get some movies in there,
and they're not exactly films that Bruce Crawford will screen
here in Omaha. We're talking about not Revenge of the Nerds,
but Revenge of the Cheerleaders, the Pom Pom Girls, massacre

(06:05):
at Central High at some point.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Right, all right, now, hold on a second. You just
scooed it right on by the Pomp Pom Girls, which
is a fine film, is it? Yes? It is, absolutely
It's one not to be missed.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Nineteen seventy six, described here as a low budget sex comedy,
an early performance by Robert Carodine, who would let's see here.
Uh yeah, so yeah, Pom Pom Girls. Well, hopefully I'll
talk to Bruce and see if we can get that
screened and get you back for that one here in Omaha.

(06:40):
But it would be a few you could do.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
You could do, you could do a double billing the
Pomp Pom Girls and Revenge of the Nerds.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, how was it like when you get offered Revenge
of the Cheerleaders, Pom Pom Girls, Massacre at Central High
and then here comes the script for Revenge of the Nerds.
Did you think, Okay, well I've done this before, let's
just go ahead and give it a shot. When did
you realize like, oh, this is something different, this is

(07:09):
something a little special.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, I never realized that before I got the location
and was about halfway through the film, because my initial
reaction was I did not want to be involved in
anything with the word nerd in the title. And when
somebody said it's called Revenge of the Nerds, I said,
I'm out, I'm not doing anything this has the word
nerd in the title. That I was anti nerds.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
So you were like, oh, you want me to be
in this movie Revenge of the Nerds? Do you want
me to be one of the jocks out here, like
winning the belching contest or then they're like, no, no,
you're not only a nerd, you're the king of the nerds.
You're Lewis Skolnik. And you said absolutely not. What turned
that around? It caused you to want to be a
part of it.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, the initial meeting, I wrote to the meeting on
my motorcycle with my long hair, and I met the director,
Jeff Canoe. It wasn't a nice, cuddly feely meeting. It
was more of a standoff because I was still holding
onto the anti nerd vibe. So about two weeks ago

(08:16):
by and my agent called me up and he says, listen,
these guys want you to come back and audition. And
I said, oh, come on really, And my agent said, listen,
this is a studio film. You're going to get in
there and do your thing. I said, all right, all right.
So I went out and I got my haircut, regular
voice haircut, which is really short, and I went to

(08:37):
an atometrist store and I'm looking at all these eyeglass
frames and I'm thinking, man, I'm not going to spend
four hundred dollars on a pair of eyeglass frames when
I don't even wear glasses, you know, And the autometrist
comes out and he says, can I help you. I said,
not at this price. He said, now listen, son, you
can't put just any old glasses in front of your eyes.

(08:58):
You only get one pair of eyes. And I said, well,
I don't wear glasses. This is because I'm going on
an audition. And I whispered it for nerds, and the guy,
in a loud voice is nerds, Oh, I got just
the thing. He goes back in the back of his
outer office and comes back with a shoe box. He
blows the dust off the top, opens it up, and
there's all these glasses like the engineers wore in Apollo thirteen.

(09:23):
And I put him on. I looked, I said, yep,
that's the looks. So I went in on the audition
and they come out after about five minutes of being
waiting there, and they look right at me, they look
the other way, and they go back in. This happens
two more times, and finally I say something. I say, hey,
I'm here to audition, and they went Robert like they
couldn't believe it was me. So that's how I knew

(09:43):
I had them.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
What did your brother David think about you cutting your
hair and going to audition for Revenge of the Nerds?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
He laughed?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And did he laugh like this? Come on video Screenhere
did that laugh come from?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
That laugh came from the actor Jamie Cromwell, who played
my father in the film. I remember it was the
night before we're going to start shooting and it said
in the script that Lewis had a honking laugh, and
I just I hadn't come up with anything, and I
didn't know what to do. So I told the director.
I said, listen, man, I don't have a laugh, you know.

(10:24):
He says, we'll here watched this and he put in
the audition tape from Jamie Cromwell, and he had that laugh.
And I was like, oh my goodness. And we're at
this like opening night party for the beginning of the film.
And I went over to Jamie and I said, man,
your laugh is really damaged. He said, that's not my laugh.
That's that's something I came up with for the part.
I said, what, It's a technique. He said yeah. I said, oh,

(10:47):
you got to teach it to me, man. So he
showed me how he did it the next day is
seen in the station wagon. We were both laughing in stereo,
so that's how it happened.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's beautiful and fantastic scene, iconic laugh. We're talking for
just a couple more minutes here with actor Robert Carradine.
Stories like that will be part of his event here
in Omaha to talk about the John Wayne film The Cowboys.
But another moment here on Revenge of the Nerds. Because
you mentioned James Cromwell plays your dad in this movie.
Your friend is Anthony Edwards. We had John Goodman in

(11:20):
that movie, I mean Timothy Bussfield. So this cast was
not like the Pom Pom Girls, no offense. But so
now you're I mean, these are some heavy hitters, and
people would go on to become major dramatic Hollywood stars.
It was a special thing. But now I think you

(11:40):
get some people to look back and Revenge of the Nerds,
some of the themes, some of the fantasy treatment that
the Nerds have about girls and so forth, and they're like, oh,
that movie doesn't hold up. What do you think now
forty years later about Revenge of the Nerds.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I think it's one of the best comedies of the eighties,
bar none, what's your.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Favorite story about Curtis Armstrong. I love that dude.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh he's fantastic. Well, when they were casting the movie,
he kind of had the same attitude that I did.
He's like, I'm not going to play a nerd. No,
I'm not going to do it. And so they had
him come in and audition, and the part that he
auditioned with was the Anthony Edwards part. Because the Anthony
Edwards part was the only character that had enough dialogue

(12:32):
that you could get an audition, so auditioned for it
and I guess he passed or they passed. Anyhow, it
didn't look like it was going any further. And then
one day his agent gets a phone call that they
wanted him to come in and they wanted him to
be in the movie. And he was thinking, oh okay,

(12:52):
and the agent said, now, listen, Lamar has been cast.
Obviously he can't play Lamar Takashi's he can't play Takashi Busfield.
They already had and they are he can't play the
twelve year old kid worms here. But he's thinking, oh God,
the only thing left is I'm not going to be

(13:13):
in a movie where I have to play a part
named Booger, and he says, The agent says, oh okay.
Agent calls back, he says, the parts Booger, and he goes,
I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, they're gonna pay me, right, fine, that's fine. I
Curtis Armstrong from Revenge of the Nerves to Better Off Dead,
just so funny, great actor and Robert I love picking
your brain here about uh this movie. And of course
when people like right now, nostalgia is aimed guys my
age who we were kids watching that movie thinking this

(13:50):
is one of the funniest things I've ever seen, and
now like everything's coming back, like we're doing a reboot
of this or let's catch up with these guys all
these years later. Is there any chance of another edition
of the Revenge of the Nerds saga?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, there is. We have two script ideas. One of
the scripts was written by Andrew Cassese, who played worms
Or in the film, and the other one is a
concept that I guess I could say I came up
with it, and it's a very funny concept for a

(14:26):
continuation of the Nerd saga. And I'll just give you
a little taste of it. It starts out and we're
all in Adam's College, you know, the original cast. Yeah,
because we're there for alumni day and we're checking in
on everybody and to see how it's going at the
Lamb to Lambda Lambda House. Well, that's how it starts.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I hope that this film gets made. I look forward
to seeing you in that role again and having you
here in Omaha to talk about your time with John
Wayne and Bruce Dern and the rest of this incredible
cast in the the classic film The Cowboys. Omaha's film
history in Bruce Crawford is putting on another event, Omaha
Film event dot com. It's Friday, October twenty fourth at

(15:09):
the Omaha Community Playhouse. You'll watch the movie and then
talk with Robert Carodine about his time in the movie
and his stories about that film, which I didn't want
to get all of this morning. That's why we go
to the show. I trust Robert, you'll be driving here
at the speed of light in one of your souped
up race cars.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Absolutely, man, I've got it all peeled up and ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, we ask our favorite guests on this program, Robert,
to say a line for us that we feel is
the best thing to hear first thing in the morning.
Would you be so kind as to say, good morning, honey,
I made you pancakes for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Good morning, honey, I made you pancakes for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That is fantastic, Robert Carodine, thank you for the lifetime
of entertainment. We will see you later this month at
this event. Omaha Film event dot com for all the details.
Thank you, Robert.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Thank you for having me on your incredible show. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It is incredible now that you've been here. Thank you
so much. Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
All right, so on man

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Scott by these mornings nine to eleven our news radio
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