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September 22, 2025 58 mins

Discover why being proudly mediocre at something you love might be the key to unlocking joy, meaning, and even spiritual practice in your life.


In this perspective-shifting conversation, leadership consultant Karen Walrond shares insights from her new book, In Defense of Dabbling: The Brilliance of Being a Total Amateur, revealing how letting go of the pressure to excel can transform simple activities into powerful portals for self-discovery, connection, and personal growth. Learn the seven surprising attributes that make intentional amateurism a radical act of self-care in our achievement-obsessed world.


You can find Karen at: Website | Instagram | Episode Transcript


If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversations we had with James Victore about making your art and owning your point of view. 


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