Episode 249

On Mother’s Day weekend of 2018, a hairdresser named Joleen Cummings was reported missing after she failed to pick up her kids from their father. Soon Joleen’s car was found in a Home Depot parking lot and the mystery behind her vanishing would open up a rabbit hole of insanity like never before. This was one of the craziest cases Florida had ever seen.

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It was the Monday after Mother's Dayweekend of twenty eighteen. A mother named
Anne Johnson called her local police forhelp her daughter, Joline Cummings was missing.
Joline was a thirty three year oldhairdresser with three kids in a busy
schedule. She had spent the lastfew years working at a salon in Fernandina

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Beach called Tangles, and was belovedby her co workers for her bubbly nobs
personality kind of like mine. Jolineand her former husband, Jason Cummings had
recently separated. Now she was livingalone with her kids and had been dipping
her toes back into the dating pool. But Jolene wasn't answering her cell phone.

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Jolene always answered her cell phone nomatter what was going on. Plus,
Joline would have not missed a callto her mother on Mother's Day,
which was also Jolene's birthday. Thepolice went to Jolene's house in Hilliard,
Florida, and saw no signs ofher car or Jolene. They put out

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a bolo for her ten SUV andsoon reached her ex husband, Jason Cummings.
Jason said that Joline was supposed tomeet him at the wind Dixie supermarket
the day before to do their normalchild exchange, but she never showed up,

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so he took the kids to Joline'smom's house. All right, he's
just kind of suffering the beginning thesource. When's the last time that she
saw Joe? It wasn't this pastSunday. It was a Sunday prior to
six or so? Okay as sixa cloud my six and live okay een

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d s and John Kinsell Okay,say that's when you saw you? When
day is as a normal routine.He guess what's the list of custody?
Ship pick him up for las fokay? KACKI d six o'clock? Who
Who's who's a very tan? Idon't know? Lasking Okay, I'm worried.
Where do you pick him up?At the bottler? Jason and Joline

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had a seamless arrangement. They tradedoff custody every week. Jason took the
kids to Joe Lene at the wendDixie supermarket, and he picked them up
from Joe Lene's babysitter, Tanya ata nearby park. They had been doing
this for a long time without anyissue until the week before Joelne wanted him

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to break a custody arrangement and herefused. They hadn't really been speaking much
since. I mean, other thanthat, I didn't know nothing was wrong.
I means she's always she's angry mostbut she's also happy as she's talking
to unless you can see her herface, but she would She got Joe

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two sixteen sent to her for dusonnine days. Okay, shout out my
months after she as when she starteddoing her little genie X, I thought
she was just saying as somebody else. I didn't think that drove because when
she did long she played with kids, you know, me and her was
getting kind of dissa and I'll justlet her get whatever out of her system.

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But it got worse. Jolene wentthrough a rough patch at the end
of their marriage, and even thoughshe'd sometimes disappear for a few days,
she would always come back and bea great mom. That's why Jason wasn't
too concerned when Jolne didn't show upat the wind Dixie on Friday for their
childcare exchange. What I really wantto get into is, you know,

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obviously you are personally interesting anytime andsomebody gets listen. I understand you.
You understand if you want schools whoscho would be a police officer. I
mean it's like you understand you knowthe best one, and I want you
to think of the weirds you everdo on You know, I don't want
you to think that anybody's for unfairthan you, but obviously here's somebody at

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Jason nodded and provided a solid alibi, including his job and a play date
with his kids friends. He toldthe detective exactly what went down at the
wind Dixie when Jolene missed her pickup. He said that he and the children
showed up on time and waited twentyminutes before trying to get a hold of
Jolene O six twenty six twenty holtextshows they look you're late, said on

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your twenty minutes. So if youneed your job, kids off at your
moms. I mean, because usuallyif she's from the lake, still tell
me, I can you clean youjob? The kids off at moms or
blah blah blah. I'm right leftand I'm waiting to buy another ten minutes
and I went. I went toKama's house to see if she was over

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there, see what's going on.That's when I found out and they hadn't
trying to do her wrong day andno last talked to her. She'll have
that extra, he s extr onless someday is her. Jason then handed
over his phone and his car tobe analyzed. What do you think capital
to drive me? First? OnlyI know that she's I have she's doing

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a drow and don't want you foundwanting to walk about and now she's got
all this attends on as far ashere. Okay? Is that's your hope
or is that yourselves? What?Okay? What's your thoughts in this world?
Man? Very much? Job,I don't want to figure out them,
even though it I mean, youdon't you don't think I should like

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this? Can you lead un asuper walker? Can you please tell me
about this guy she has got she'vebeen seeing and we're looking into that I'm
trying to locate him for you.I'm gonna get it, bring him in
him just like a and doing toyou. But it wouldn't be that easy

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to get Joe Lane's new boyfriend,Jason G to talk on the phone.
When they finally got a hold ofhim on his cell phone and said this
is the Sheriff's department, he hungup and then turned off his phone.
As they attempted to locate Jason G, the detectives paid a visit to Joe
Lane's babysitter, Tanya, who hada few choice stories to tell the police.

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I received a text from Joelan andshe said, DCF is going to
be calling you and I was like, what do you mean you know?
And we went back and forth andshe told me that every She then called
me because I was freaking out.I was like, why are you to
giving these people my name and number. I'm like, I have nothing to
do with your issue. This isall on Texas. I said, I

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have nothing to do with this issueright here? Why did you give them
my number? So she called meand she's like, well, I gave
him your name and number because youcan account for the kind of mom I
am and because I see you,you know, three full times a week
drop and picking off the boys.DCFF Department of Florida Children's and Families suddenly
became involved in Joline's life after afight between her and Jason G the week

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she went missing. I asked herwhat happened and how it started. She
said they woke up in a goodmood and was fine, and then they
started cooking. It was holy.There was holes in her story, so
there really wasn't an excuse more orless. They just got to a fight
and then he started throwing things ather. The boys were crying. Who
started throwing things? Jason G startedthrowing things at her and the boys were

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crying. So that's when she toldme she called the cops and I said,
you need me to come get theboys. This was again Thursday,
and she said no, the copsare here, and the DCF lady just
pulled up and I was like,or just left, because that's why I
got upset, because she gave hermy name and number. And I was
like, okay, so the DCFjust left and you made your report and
everything. Are you sure you don'tmake it the boys? She's like,

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no, I'm just gonna calm themdown and blah blah blah. So I
said to Joline, you know,hey, we can get I know you
don't work on Thursdays, but Icould tell she's very very very stressed,
highly stressed, constantly coming in scatterbrain. And so I reached out to
her and I said, if youever want to go on a kid date

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and just hang out and talk,we can. Again, this is all
on text. Joline insisted that everythingwas fine. Jason had left and she
wasn't going to let him back anywherenear the house. The fight Joelene had
with Jason happened on Thursday. Thepolice were called and ye have showed up.

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Joline said she was staying away fromJason. Tanya saw Joe Lane the
next morning when she dropped off herboys. Did you see her on Friday?
Yes, Friday morning? Okay,yeah, I guess Friday morning,
nine fifteen. And I know exactlybecause I actually have been. She doesn't
pay me a lot, being asingle mom going through a divorced she doesn't

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pay me a lot. So tocalculate how much I'm technically getting her child,
you know, and just do that, you know, And I'd added
up the math and she's a singlemom. I'm trying to help her out.
So anyways, she pays me,but usually it's she pays me half
and half. But this day shepaid me. She was on time,
and she was not scatter brained andcrazy. She was calm, collective,

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kissed the boys goodbye, gave memy money, and that was it.
And that was weird that because typicallymy mom can hear her hurry up,
boys, come on, let's go. And I'm not again trying to speak
ill of her. It's just howshe is. I'm a loud person,
so I might sound different to otherstoo, but she's constantly let's go.
I'm late, come on, boys, let's go. Tanya said, that

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was the last time she saw JoeLene. What was the last time you
communicated with her? Be I textraphone. I look sure, because I
can tell you exactly Friday at sixnineteen pm, I have a lawyer.
DCF is no longer allowed to contactme. They have to contact my lawyer.
I forgot about that, and Isaid, okay, Nice, She

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said, yep, the whole pointI got into it today. So I
said, nice, that was it? And who she got into it with?
No, actually, and it doesn'tdawn on me that that even meant
anything until now and then I texther Happy Birthday, not knowing any of
this until her mom to it andshe's actually a mutual friend reached out.

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Did she answer that texturethday? Noneof Jolne's friends, family, or co
workers had any contact with her sinceSaturday evening. Jolene always worked on Saturday's
at Tangles. It was as thoughshe had vanished. It's always one thing
or another, or I'm late,or i'm this or on that or this.

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You know. So at first Ithought this was all not a joke,
but maybe she'd get some drugs andhad a long madding over. But
no, there's something wrong. Whendetectives got a warrant to search Joline's home,
they found that her kitchen had beendestroyed, cabinet doors were hanging off

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hinges, and holes had been punchedin the walls. The police report indicated
that all the damage had been doneby Jason, and that he also had
an outstanding violation of probation warrant.At a press conference about Joline, the
police addressed this in reference to adomestic issue involving Jolene and her former boyfriend,

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Jason G. A neighbor advice heardloud arguing and things being broken inside
Jolie's house, so she called theSheriff's office. When deputies arrived, Gee
was gone. Joline told the respondingdeputy that Gee had showed up at her
house and wanted to stay, butshe asked him to leave. He had
an active warrant out for his arrestfor violation and probation, and he avoided

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deputies who were actively looking for himto see if he had any information on
Jolie's whereabouts. She was found onTuesday, May fifteenth, hiding in a
house in Hugard under some cardboard boxesand was arrested on the outstanding warmth.
After Jason's arrest, his father spoketo the media advocating for his son's innocence.

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I saw any of them knew thatmy son does playing amazing, But
my son would never heard of wars. But that wasn't true. Jason G
had a history of various drug charges, outstanding warrants, and domestic charges.
Today we also found this court doctorshows another ex girlfriend of Gey's had similar

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problems and filed a restraining order againsthim in Jacksonville back in twenty eleven.
It shows while she was with hertwo young children, he assaulted her in
her car, forced her neck againstthe seat, grabbed her phone and smashed
it, and goes on to sayhe told the woman he was going to
make her life miserable. Jason Gwas arrested and taken down to the station.

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With no phone to turn off andno boxes to hide under, he
would have to face the reality ofJoelene's mysterious disappearance head on. Thirty three

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year old mother and hairdresser Joline Cummingshad gone missing the weekend of her birthday,
which was also Mother's Day. Jolinewas in the middle of divorce,
a very dangerous time for a womanto be quite honest, and though her
ex husband checked out, her newboyfriend, Jason G was a seasoned criminal

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with a violent past. He hadrun from the cops when they tried to
question him, and had also gottenin a serious fight with Joline two days
before she disappeared. He was arrestedon an outstanding warrant and the cops could
finally question the sketchy man in Joline'slife that nobody trusted, but Jason had

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an alibi his father. Is thereanyway you could be involved with her disappearance?
I had nothing to do with agirl's disappearance. You know. He
come out here Wednesday. He's beenwith me all week long. Saturday when
the girl was supposed to be missingme and he was here at the house
all day long. Jason g agreedto talk once in custody. He admitted
to smashing Jolene's kitchen and that theyfought in the past, but he swore

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he had no idea where she was. He said he hadn't seen her since
their fight on Thursday, when thepolice were called. He said he had
been avoiding the cops because of hiswarrants and not because of Joline. With
Jason and custody and his story semibelievable, the detectives turned back to Joline's

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schedule and traced her steps. Thelast place she was seen alive was at
the Tangles hair salon on Saturday.Jolene had a busy day with clients and
then closed up shop with a newhairdresser named Jennifer Cybert. Soon the detectives
met with the salon's manager and Morgan, Anne had been working for the salon's

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owner for a long long time andhad seen Joline through her entire employment at
Tangles. She come there and applyfor the job, and that's how I
know her ever since she works thereabout five six years now. That's how
I become to know her at Tangles. At Tangles, we get along wonderful

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and she look up to me.I'm just like, go mom. Would
she confide in you? Most timesshe confide and made things. You know.
Did you give her advice? Yes. Anne said that Joline had recently
filed an injunction against her ex husband, Jason Cummings, and was a bit
obsessed with her upcoming court date.He oh, I give her a hard

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time, and she tried to putwhat she called me conjunction or something like
that against him. Yes, seeit everything they say or they taxed.
She always keeps all the wrecktors.She told me for the court. If

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she had few minutes or ten minutes, five minutes, she pulled those books
out and look at it. AndI assume she's look at it and study
it. Jason had told the copsabout the injunction, but still could there
be more to the story than justa messy divorce? Then all of a

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sudden, something amazing happened. Theyfound Jolne's car. On Tuesday afternoon,
we received information at a vehicle matchingJoelane's two thousand and six Bays four expedition
we're seeing parked in the parking lotclose to the home depot in Ulie.
We told the vehicle to the Sheriff'soffice to see if we could obtain any
type of clues about Jolene. Weimmediately began going around to businesses in the

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area looking for any video surveillance camerafootage there was available in hopes we could
find out when the vehicle was parkedthere. Joline's Tan Suv was not damaged.
All our belongings were inside. Bythe way, who drives a Tan
suv? I mean that you gottabe a You gotta be a psychopath.

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Anybody that drives a Tan car whogoes to the dealership and goes, yeah,
give me the Tan model that's outthere in the lot that you can't
sell, Give me that one.All right, I'm done. Anyway,
all of Jolene's belongings were inside thesuv. We found some camera footage that
showed Joline's vehicle being parked around oneseventeen am Sunday morning. The video showed

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the drivers sit there for a fewminutes and then get out. We were
hoping to see Joline get out ofthat vehicle, but Jolene never got out
out of the suv. Instead,a plump, middle aged woman with long
brown hair twisted up into a bungot out of the car. Picture a

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very smug looking Karen type, ifthat helps. Police immediately identified her as
Jennifer Cybert, Jolene's coworker and thelast person known to have seen her alive.
According to Anne from Tangles, Jenniferhad only been working at the salon
for a few months. She camethere just about two months or so like

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that. I think it's about twomonths a little bit more, two months
around that number. What did younotice about Jennifer? Well, really,
I don't know much about Jennifer,but she seemed like a nice person to
me. But she seemed like shewanted to involve everything's going on in the

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shop. That she wanted to beinvolved in everything is what's your son?
Yes? And go on in theshop. When Jennifer was hired, and
tried to get to know her betterby asking about her life like anyone would
with a new co worker. Iasked her, She do na vontere tell
me? I asked, I sayyou or you live here with somebody or

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by yourself. She pursued, tellme that she lived with her sister and
her brother in law and her mother, but her mother not well. When
police went to the address Tangle Salonhad on file for Jennifer, it was
fake. The address did not exist. You know, we's the girls when

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we're not busy, so we canhave a small talk, which i'd say,
are you married? She said yeah, but she divorced because act her
husband very meant her see here.At one time he tried to kill her.
He took her to death and tosay that if I don't push him

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away, up of'em, theywon't be here today. Yes, he
says, He say that she veryafraid that he find her or do what
she used. Put a tap onher. She don't give her phone number
to nobody. She very careful whatshe'd do. The words she used,

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you said, put a cap onher. I love that Jennifer was an
odd duck with a strange past.No one at the salon thought much of
it except Jolene. Jolene was verycurious more than just hairdresser curious about Jennifer

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and confided an Anne about it abouttwo weeks before she's missing. She told
me, she say, miss Anne, something about Jenner for that. I
cannot put my hand on it.She's not right. She faked, miss
Anne, she faked. She comeon and say to what she fake?

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She's fake? She and I say, why you get on saying that?
She say, I don't know.I cannot tell you, but I have
a feeling that something about her thatI don't trust. Jennifer would do weird
things at the salon, like refusedto help certain customers or what seemed like
unacceptable reasons. Another time, sheturned off the air conditioner in the middle

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of a humid, hot afternoon whenthe salon was full of people. She
was nosy and in everyone's business,but when the questions turned back to her,
she gave short answers and avoided morequestions. Even customers noticed the tension
between Jennifer and joe Lene, andso Jolene asked Jennifer to get the gifts

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shificket out of the bomb drawer.Summers in a drawers, the gift shifket
and Jennifer blew up, like youcan do with it? I don't,
can't fucking find it in front ofthis lady. So Joline asked if we
can get excused so she can gofind it help the lady. She did.
One day, Jolene came in tellingAnne she wanted to have a chat
with her when they got a freemoment. When it came time for a

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quick smoke breakout, back and andJolene went outside, but Jennifer followed them.
Jennifer did not smoke. Did youget the impression if she was trying
to listen to the conversation between youand Joe Lene? Yes? And what
was Joe Lene trying to tell youabout the incident with her ex boyfriend on

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Wednesday? I think it's get yeah, I think ex boyfriend ex husband.
We didn't even get dad yet,Okay. Jennifer came out, yes,
and stood close or trying to beincluded in the conversation. Trying to be
included. I'm I'm here, JoeLane, here, Jennifer here, I'm
in the middle. Okay, Anduh, what was joe Lyne's reaction?

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Joanne was sitting down and I'm sittingon the jail, and Jolian look up
to her say go away. Idon't want to talk to you. I
wanted to talk to miss Anne.You fake you, Yes, you fake
you? You fake, you crazy? You fake? And Jennifer say,

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what do you mean why I'm fake? What the reason for you to say
that I'm fake? And Jenner andJulian say I want to talk to you
now, just go away, andJennifer still stand there, so I kind
of have to intervene it. Isay, go ahead and go inside,
honey, I'll talk to you later. According to Anne, Knifer just stood

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there even after Jolene told her tobasically beat it, and eventually shuffled her
inside to break up the bubbling confrontation. After they finished their cigarettes and and
Jolene went back to work, andJolene continued talking about Jennifer. She say,
miss Anne, what Jennifer a lastname? I said, I don't

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know how Nie? Why? Shesaid, because I want to go online
and look up like the criminal peoplegot the rep seat. She want to
go on that shite and look andshe did jennifer name pop up. I
said, I don't have it,but I can call Vicky and ask her

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her last name. The day gotbusy and didn't have time to call the
salon's owner, Vicky and ask herfor Jennifer's information, but Jolene wasn't going
to just let this go. Shefinally got Jennifer his full name with the
customer's help. Joline made the comment, go over there, look at her
license. I want to know herlast name because there's something just odd about

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her. You mean the cosmetology Ye, cosmetology license. Yeah, that was
hanging up on her thing. SoI'm like, okay, she is because
there's something just weird because she justshows up any time she Jolane says she
started wearing wigs when she first started. Then they complimented on her hair because
it was so long, so thenshe stopped wearing the wigs. But Joline

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says she just didn't have a rightvibe with her, so she was going
to look up her name and figureout what the heck was going on with
her. Jolene was determined to findout what was so wrong about Jennifer,
she says, to explain it.But something about jenner Foot is not right.

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She not a person that she saysshe is. Well, Joline's last
day working at Tangles. One ofher customers told the police that while she
was sitting in the chair getting herhair done or did I don't know what
the right nomenclature is these days,Jennifer came up and started talking to her.

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Jolene had walked away for a moment, and Jolene had said to the
customer, it's like she really doesn'tlike me. I told her she needed
to watch her mouth. The policestill couldn't find Jennifer Cybert anywhere. Her
address was bogus, her phone wasoff. They hunted the eastern beaches of

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Florida to try to find Jennifer's car, and then they caught a break through
on her investigative techniques. We finallylocated Cyber in her vehicle, which is
a twenty sixteen Kia Soul black incolor. We found her the northbound ninety
five rist area in Saint John's Countyon Wednesday evening sixteenth park between two other

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semi trucks. She had apparently beenliving in her car at various locations.
Banks upon the surveillance video and we'redriving Joline's car. We arrested her for
grand theft auto and she was bookedinto the Saint John's County jail and ultimately
brought back to Nassau County. Here'sJennifer and custody. I'm enjoying. This

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is Charlotte. I want to talkto me for of those Wow, what
name do you want me to callyou? Drive? You said, I'm
being called you by her Saint Johnson. Tell you when you are thrun my
fingers through. They come up asKimberly Lee Hessler. You heard that right.

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Jennifer Seybert wasn't Jennifer Seybert at all. Her name was Kimberly Kessler.
I was born in May of nineteensixty eighty nine. I had fifty years
old. I've been running from theFBI for twenty five years. I've been
living under this particular alias since nineteenninety nine, so not quote nineteen ninety

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nine, nineteen years. That's aboutit. But that wasn't about it.
That was just the tip of theiceberg. And now that they had Jennifer
aka Kimberly and custody, the policewere about to go down a rabbit hole
like they'd never seen before. Kimberlyhad been masquerading as many different women over

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the years, She had lived underseventeen different aliases in various states, from
Arizona to Texas to Florida. Shewas filled with layers of secrets, lies,
and crime. They were just beginningto scratch the surface of her deception.
Your family member, you don't wantyour That's fine. I haven't talk

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to them a while. I havecousins and all people want. You don't
want to spend time anymore or justyeah, I'd like said I'm ready to
go back to being myself. Isaid, you know, Fox twenty five
years around the friend from the FBI, and thought I could build like a
life for myself. And I've donenothing. I've lived in it. I
mean, I've been trying. I'mlive in my car last over two years.

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I'm not getting it's not gonna gettingbetter. I would I would laugh
to know, you know, andI'm not you know, I'm a federal
lawforcement agent or anything like that,but you know, I kind of allow
me hear the background of why youhave last five years. Pull pull up
on the computer, pull my nameout, pull it up, Kimberly Kessler,

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and I'm here. I want topull that up. I'll do with
for me to super if you'll giveme a minute, I'll outside, and
my crime analyst is actually here,and I'll give her an information and let
her and let her work on that. Kimberly Lee Hessler, What kind of
silly middle name isn't miss if mymom's son saying an emerald cared for?

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Kimberly was from Butler, Pennsylvania,and according to police records, she had
been reported missing by her own familyin twenty twelve. However, they waited
eight years to report her missing.She actually disappeared on July fourth, two
thousand four. What kind of motherwaits a decade to report her child missing.

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Kimberly was charming and witty with thedetectives, but Kimberly was a weirdo
and basically anyone and everyone who hadknown her throughout the years and her various
aliases would verify that fact. Forexample, the name Jennifer Seibert was the
name of a young German girl whohad died in a car crash and Butler.

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When she was a teenager, Kimberlyused to walk to the cemetery and
write down the names of dead girlswho were born near her own birth year.
Super Normal behavior I'm being facetious incase you haven't picked it up via
audio. Now that they had figuredout her real name, detectives had started

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hunting down people who knew Kimberly wayback when she was actually Kimberly. Here's
an ex boyfriend of Kimberly who shelived with in the early nineties after they
graduated from high school. Can youtell me some more about her? I

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saw something about stabbing you in theleg. Can you tell me about that?
She bit your dad in the leg? Yep, you heard that.
Right after stabbing her boyfriend in thechest, Kimberly then bit his dad in

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the leg. As you would goon again, So where you set the
pan on? I don't know whatit's called, Okay, grabbed one of
them and then across the side ofthe head with it, and then with
some stakes night trying to follow ofbeing a bathing and the stake by kind

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of laughed at her. He tookme out of Berry saying we gotta away
from her, took me to myparents' house. Kimberly was crazy and the
cops knew it. They laughed.When she tried to file a p FA,
which is similar to a restraining order. After a while, she showed
up at his dad's front door paintdown board on followed pif babe you and

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told her to stay away, andthey came down and a don I had
left. He had come down becauseI guess he was pitched because they wouldn't
flow any charges against me and mydad would throw her off the property and
went after him and fit into alittle lake. One hell of a mark

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on play. But Kimberly's ex boyfriendsaid that she was prone to sudden and
violent outbursts. We went to aparty one night. She saw a girl
that she didn't fight and just breakingthe liddle of the party, started throwing
hands and that's when I knew Iwas done and into holes. Took a
lot of get away from her.You know, we have her here.

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She's our main person of interest forhomicide. Yeah, not surprise, and
we're looking for any type of behaviorshe may have displayed before. If she's
ever talked about it. I'm surethey told you of hitting her brother.

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Kimberly had grown up with a brother. When the police called him, he
really didn't want to talk and saidhe had lost touch with his sister.
But friends remembered how cruel Kimberly wasto her sibling. I'm not sure if
it was whenever they I think wheneverthey got out of high school. They

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were thanks living together. He wasor and her brother. I'm not sure
if they were living together, butI know that she ended up getting pissed
off at him, okay, andshe said, I'll get even with you,
and she waited for him to fallasleep as she hit him over there
over the mouth with the baseball platand basically just blew all his teeth right

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up. Her reasoning behind it washer dad had passed away and her brother
was living in their childhood home becausethe mother and the father had already split
up and before he passed, andhe was having parties down there and having
all his friends over and felt theblues tracking the place, sent to creating

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the place that was her dat homeand set amy sleeping. Kimberly often had
justifications for doing the crazy things shedid, but she lied all the time
to everyone, so it was impossibleto know what was real. Here's Kimberly

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at the police station again after herarrest. If years old, I have
fifty, and it doesn't matter wholooks start to seating. Obviously, some
people look done something A little waterdoesn't even children I do. I have
a son. He is in NorthCarolina with his father. That's what got
me going and running again. Innineteen ninety nine, Choparticular Services snatched him

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while I was at work from thebasin or and that really setting over the
edge. So they his father byhim. He told me that the judge
told him, or that the judgesaid the CPS, why will she give
this man his son? Like whyare you fighting against him? And the
judge made him get our son.And so thankfully my son is twenty years

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old now. Might haven't seen himsince he was fourteen months old. I'm
very grateful that his father got toraise him. I did not want him
in foster care. Scared me todeath. I couldn't even understand why they
were when they took him, soI said me on my last nineteen year
run. Some parts of that aretrue. Yes, Kimberly has a son
named Evan Everett Edwards. It's alot of ease, but she has not

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seen him since he was fourteen monthsold. But the reason she hasn't been
in his life is nothing close towhat Kimberly told the cops, my son
is Evan Everett's Broke and I wasunder the name Christina Burke at the time.
They have a name to go onto day and yep, twenty five

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years I mentioned and run from Luciergion. Everything not exactly true, according to
Tim Edwards, the boy's biological fatherand Kimberly's ex husband. When Evan was
born in nineteen ninety eight, Kimberlywas living under the name Melissa McKernan,

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not Christina Brooke. After Evan wasborn, Kimberly started acting crazy and told
the neighbors that she thought Evan waspossessed by demons. The neighbors grew concerned
as conversations like this continued, andeventually the Department of Social Services got involved.
When the social worker showed up,Kimberly got in a fight with her

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and chased her off the property.Tim told the police that Kimberly asked him
dead serious to kill the Social servicesagent. She told him what gun he
should use and how to do it. He refused, but Kimberly became obsessed
with the Social services agent. Laterthat week, Kimberly took a three fifty

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seven pistol and a taser to theSocial Services office and threatened to kill her
caseworker. She was, of course, immediately arrested and thrown in jail.
Tim paid the three hundred and fiftydollars to have her bonded out. That
night, Kimberly slept on the couch. In the morning, she was gone

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and Tim never saw her again.But here's the kicker. When Tim went
to Social Services to get his sonback, he found out that Kimberly had
obtained a second birth certificate for herson, giving him a new last name.
On the birth certificate, had saidthat she had given birth to her

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son at home, that his namewas Brooke, and she had no idea
who the boys father was. I'mgrateful my son's alive. The while,
I'm so grateful, so grateful.And then his dad. One of the
things this dad did whenever Evan waslike three months old, and I don't
even know while I think he wason drives, he always said he wasn't.

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Then he acted so wild and hisdad took us and he was just
acting kind of crazy and he's like, give me othern It was at night,
and I'm like, for what.But he was never even interested in
the baby before. It's like nineo'clock at night. I'm like, we'll
give a baby. I'm like,for what. And he goes to like
grab him and I'm like, he'sthree months old. You can't wrestle over

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a three month old. They're fragile. I'm like what. And he just
took his head and like pushed itup and I didn't want to like resisting
because it's the baby. He pushedhis head into my head. I'm not
very hard, but it made himcry and I'm like, what are you
doing? Like he just did that, and I was it was the only
thing that he ever did it.You know, it was like nasty.

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But I'm like, I'm gonna callthe gong with you and he just tid
But so here here's the thing.After Kimberly was arrested and outed to the
media, Tim and Evan were contacted. They laid low, but Evan did
give this statement. I would liketo say, I really don't want to

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be contacted about this or associated withthis at all. I'm not going to
talk to them. I just don'twant to be associated with her, her
family or anything that is remotely connectedto her. It seemed like Kimberly had
made an impression on everyone she met. She would often go to churches and

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try to make friends. Here's aMayo clinic doctor she rented a room from
that she met through church. Sheshowed up to our church one day.
Oh no, say said she wasrunning of town. She made it a
place to stay. There was athere was a there's a bit of a

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sad story that we heard, andshe said that she was a credible person,
and so she she was directed tomeet somehow because we have apartments,
and so I I. We gaveher an apartment for a while. She

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her lifestyle was bizarre. She wasvery eclusive. She had no furniture and
apartment. She would not allow meto give her furniture. You know that
if I came up to that wentaround or to help her in anyway,
she would repeatedly uh. She shehad a significant amount of paranoia and delusional

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mental activity came her, refused anyfurniture and slept in a sleeping bag on
the floor in an empty apartment.She would hear things seemingly outside the apartment
building that she would call the policeas thinking it was me coming after her.
She accused me of going into herapartment when she was not there and

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urinating on her sleeping bit. Kimberlywas nuts. The police interviewed about twenty
of her ex boyfriends and they allhad a strange tale to tell. She
bragged to one boyfriend that she knewhow to dispose a body without being caught.
She made another boyfriend take off hispants every time he got home from

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work so he wouldn't leave the housewithout her. Another boyfriend said she threatened
to cause her own miscarriage by jumpingup and down in the middle of their
street and punching herself in the stomach. She beat men with frying pants,
heavy ashtrays, and of course herfists. She threatened suicide all the time.

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And Kimberly is really the type ofperson that makes me not miss dating
like at all. Oh and onemore thing. Every boyfriend reported that Kimberly
absolutely hated her mother. Well,the media did track down her mother and

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yes, you guessed it, shetoo was you know, an interesting character.
Don't forget this is a woman whoreported her daughter missing after eight years
of not seeing her. But Kimberly'sex husband confirmed that she did visit when
they lived together, and missus Kesslerknew her daughter was alive. Here's Connie

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Kessler telling the local news how distraughtshe is to find out her daughter is
in jail. People can snap it, of course, I'd say, no,
I can't even fathom such a thing. Just kind of left hanging wondering
what's what's going to happen. Conniesaid, Kimberly really lost it when her

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son, Evan, was taken fromher by his father. We all know
that this is not what happened.My daughter went in search of him,
and that was the reason that shechanged her name in the first place,
so that she could go back toVirginia to look for Evan. Evan and
Tim Edwards were so upset when theycaught Kimberly's mother on television telling these lies.

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Tim contacted the station to make surethey knew the truth they reported it.
It was becoming clear to the policethat if you crossed Kimberly Kessler,
she left not only a mark,but a deep scar. I've been that
year since I was a kid.I actually done professional the license like four

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years ago. I guess it workswell if you're moving on her moving around
a lot. I guess now youcan make tables or whatever. I have
driven tractor and trailer, which Idid a Virginia Beach, Virginia. I
mentioned I wanted in Pennsyvillania, Virginia, and Arizona. I also had a
real estate license of the Arizona one. Snider thought to myself, I'm gonna

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make money. Well, no,it requires like a special blessing from God.
It also requires help. But Inoticed in the last twenty five years
of being on my own, I, especially after my son was taken,
I didn't let anybody get really tooclose to you. I did get into
abusive relationships that was foolish, andthen I really kept everybody on sleeve,
but never really let to make peopleget close to beat. It is virtually

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impossible to take care of oneself byyourself. Notice how this line of questioning
started with the cops asking her aboutcutting hair, and kimberly cleverly steered the
conversation away from that and into thetopic that didn't involve Jolene Cummings at all.
That's one of my first relationships inArizona. He was actually he robbed

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banks and I was working. Iwas working as a topless dancer, and
that was before my truck driving debute. So I did that just for a
little while. Just I love todance, and I just I don't know.
I was young, and you knowwhy, why did you hear?

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Yes, I'm being accused. Youaccused me. The other night You're like,
where's Joline at so? And Idid not know where she is.
Kimberly wasn't saying a word about Joeleneor where she was. While one patch
of detectives was tasked with hunting downanyone who knew Kimberly in the past,
the other group tried to figure outwhere Joelene's body was, retracing her steps

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on the weekend of her disappearance.A big break came when detectives got some
security footage that showed Kimberly taking outtwo large, heavy trash bags and dumping
them into a bin behind a wingrestaurant near Tangles. These were not just

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regular salon trash bags. Kimberly hadto swing the heavy bags to get them
into the shoulder height bin. Thesebags were filled with something or someone heavier
than garbage from a hair salon.Can we just go through when we worked
with her on that Saturday, SoI can is or anything you tell me

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that she ever talked to you abouta boyfriend, a boyfriend she had talked
about him by Shooster. She eversame thing that would that she wanted to
run away and get away from adoll. I don't remember hearing any She
would have different conversations sometimes with differentclients, because different clients. You don't

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tell every clients, you know whatI mean, Like but the one line,
but one, the one I wouldthe one I told you and one
listen it she she was saying CPScame to her house. She was telling
one Knefrid. I caught a littleblick of it in between listen YouTube and
the phone ringing and and she Iremember hear her say she thought her her

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ex husband or her husband was doingto get out of paying child support.
That's all I heard. And Idon't remember ever hearing about the boyfriend ever.
But then again I don't always reallypay attention. And as I told
you before, miss Anne, shereally like talks in this hand like her
and the Sad would go out backand they slipped. Sarah said, I
set out back sometimes for a whileand they would even forget that their clients
were it. I'd have to goto the back and be like, hey,

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your clients are here, because theywould get so involved and talks.
So I don't know as much asyou know, maybe miss Anne. And
honestly, whenever I first started,she would tell me, you know,
I don't even remember she started tellingyou some things. I would be like,
I'm off the person. I can'tgive you anything. Who she was

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hanging around with her any time sheshould like, you know, the time
or two she'd say I was theone home to have a quiet night at
home, or like I don't havethe kids to night, or you know
whatever. I's going to enjoy this. And they'd be like, you're young.
Why do'st she go out? She'slike, no, I don't need
a name of my life. Heor she had a boyfriend. I didn't
even know that. Additional footage froma local Walmart showed Kimberly purchasing large trash

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bags, cleaning supplies, and anelectric carving knife at a fishing and boating
store called West Marine. An employeeremembered ringing up zip ties for Kimberly before
Joelene disappeared. Well She started immediatelyto talk to me, and she said,

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wow, you look really nice.You're really dressed up fancy. But
it was not really a particular commentcompliment. I would say, it was
a little unusual, kind of oddishdemeanor of the way she said that,
And I just said, oh,well, thank you. How did it

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make you feel? I kind ofhad like a question mark in my mind,
like, WHOA, I wonder whyshe's saying that she bought a package
of zip ties? Did that strikeyou as ununusual? I thought to myself,
why is she buying these here atWest Marine? She wasn't coming in
to get any other kind of boatingor fishing products or anything to go with

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them. And I thought to myself, why wouldn't she be buying these at
Walmart or home depot or somewhere.She didn't seem like a fishing person type,
not particularly. I mean, Icouldn't really judge her by particularly that
way, But no, not notreally. Do you remember anything about what
type of zip ties these? Byzipties? You mean what we call cable

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ties or or the things that areused to tie something together and slip it
correct? Correct? Remember? Ijust remember it was a larger package.
I wouldn't say real sick, butit was a long type of a package
maybe so they were the longest ziptimes notes. Yes, I would say
the package that we had them inwhere I was like fifteen to eighteen inches

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long. Further security footage from alocal gas station showed Kimberly around one thirty
am the evening Joline disappeared. Kimberlyhad dropped Joline's car at a home depot
at one seventeen am, then headedto the gas station, where she got

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friendly with the cashier. Yeah,she had me a call her a taxi
she had to call her attacks.Yeah, can you tell me what your
conversation was with her? She saidsomething about how she was out with a
couple of friends drinking. One ofthe friends ex boyfriends came around. There's

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been some kind of promise. Sheadn't go into detail for it much after
that, And to be honest,I don't even know how she got to
the store because she hadn't calor attaxi and then what ten fifteen minutes later,
shoes gone, The taxi camp pickedher up, took her, say,
she said, somewhere to like aplant fitness over the last few months

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while employed at Tangles, Kimberly hadbeen living in her car. She had
a membership to Planet Fitness and usethe gym to shower and get ready for
work. But Kimberly was crazy,so she got into fights with the employees
and other patrons regularly. Planet Fitnesshad enough and revoked her membership. You

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have to be next level batshit toget your membership to Planet Fitness taken away.
Trust me on that. I mean, you got to be really really
really really nuts. Put it tothat way. They don't cancel those memberships
voluntarily. She looked like she hada red mark on her face was it

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wasn't like much, but it didn'tlook like someone that hit her. Maybe
it like, you know, grabbedher by the face or pushed her or
something like that. Another thing weforgot to mention. When she was arrested,
Kimberly had a big gash on herface and cuts all over her hands.
First she said she hit a treeand hit her head while she was

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riding her bike. Then she toldcops the gashes were from bedbugs. What
else did she say about them beingout earlier? Nothing? She went into
this really weird conversation about what methdoes to your body. Literally, this
is what most of our conversation wasabout. We had called her, she
had called the taxi company from myphone, and she was very irritable with

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the people on the phone. Notthat the lady on the phone is being
courteous ees, but yeah, shewas easy. She just felt like we
need to keep talking. She couldn'tlike not talk. Soon, a taxi
pulled up and Kimberly left the gasstation. Kimberly had the cab driver drop

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her off near her Keia, whichwas parked in the same parking lot as
a Planet Fitness. The police hadconfiscated and did a full examination of Kimberly's
phone. Some of the searches beforeand after Joline's disappearance included coworker guilty of
murder, missing person, body found, injecting advice, how to use a

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tourniquet, murder Pedia, victim Pedia, list of female murderers by a country,
Florida female murderers, and autopsy.Joelene Cummings. I have vanished,
no body, no crime my deathspace dot com. Now this is probably

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I'm guessing, similar to the searchhistory of many of the people listening to
my voice right now, but youknow beyond that. She also googled Joline's
name four hundred and fifty seven times. Here's Kimberly again. So did you
guys ever hang out for her?Did you ever go anywhere? Yeah?

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Okay, she ever allowed to useyour car? And you're a low user
card everyone? Where do you everplay that? The charge you were arresting
on is the grand charge? Youknew that correct? Yes? Okay,
okay, that was kind of whatelse talking with you about the other day.

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And the reason you're charging that isis whenever we talked about that,
there's a video of you dropping hercar off at the homely but apart a
lot there in you leave and walkingacross and going into the gay station and
getting taxicab back down to They hadlists explains with the background there to where

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tables is, okay, And that'swhy you're in your charge for the grand
dat auto. And I'm not tryingto trick you. I'm not trying to
fool You're you're open it up tome and I'm opening it up to you.
Okay. That's the reason you're chargefor that. You're not sure if
for anything else okay. Without Jolene'sbody, the murder weapon, or a
confession, they could only charge Kimberlywith grand theft auto. Jolene could be

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anywhere. Kimberly could have her tiedup to a tree hanging upside down for
all the police knew. Kimberly wasjust that crazy. Though, they couldn't
charge her with anything but grand theftauto. Just yet. The evidence was
piling up as the police continued theirinvestigation, having a joy. And you

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know, we'd actually sent our centour housing it out to process tangles and
there was some eminence there. Okay, we have also the thing there all
should think I've been fooling out.You know, I just wanted to talk
to you, get to know youa little bit because I think something what's
her name? Something something the unitwhy I happened And let me tell you

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what we did, okay, becauseI just wanted to be honest, because
I think something that happened June,it's going to happen. But we have
tag literature car and we actually andwe went out and went to your storage
unit on and we did that allin the legal basis. We had the

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search wars for a while okay.Since she lived in her car and showered
at Planet Fitness, Kimberly had astorage unit where she kept her beloved motorcycle
and other things she had been cartingaround with her. There were various identities
in the storage unit. The policeuncovered traces of Joline's blood. When they

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processed Tangles, they found massive amountsof blood all over the salon. They
also found a pair of Kimberly's haircuttingscissors that were covered in Joline's blood and
DNA. The theory was that Kimberlykilled Joline at Tangles, took her to
her storage unit, where she dismemberedher over the course of forty eight hours

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with the electric carving knife from Walmart, and then she threw her body in
the trash behind the salon when shereturned to work. Kimberly had been planning
to hurt Joline for a while.We also ever covered your shoes that asked

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lanes blow our shoes. So Ijust want you to something happen that Judnson
happened I talk to you about.Police also discovered that Kimberly had manipulated her
way into obtaining a key for Tanglesemployees from the restaurant across the street.

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Noticed the lights on at the salonvery late the night Jolene went missing.
Her mommy's other somewhere. Let ussee her very properly or whatever or whatever.
Final angels, thank you to takecare. I just want you to
think about from them. I've beenhere for four ays on which you know,
sixteen eighteen hours a day, becauseI'm going to find out where that

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there's a little boys, mommy isI promise I'm going to do that.
You can help me do that,and you're the one that can make it
happen. You're right around No,you know, and I'm not again whatever
fearing me? Hi you you solet me reply this and you may not

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like the answer I would like legalcastle. I haven't been able to call
anybody. I haven't been able tocall my mom. I see how the
worse. As she sat in jail, more charges were added to the grand
theft auto. She was charged withholding a false passport for Jennifer Seibert's identity

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theft. With the overwhelming blood evidenceand video footage, Kimberly would soon face
a jury for the murder of JoleneCummings. They say everything and everyone crazy
resides in Florida, my home state. Well, Florida didn't really see true

(01:03:40):
crazy until Kimberly Kessler showed up inthe NASA County court. Kimberly Kessler had

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been on the run her entire lifeunder seventeen different aliases before she landed herself
a hair dressing job at the TangleSalon in Yulee, Florida. Wherever the
hell that is, that's right bythe Florida Georgia border. Not surprising anyway.

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It was there that she developed abeef with her co worker Joline Cummings.
Now Kimberly was being charged with Jolene'smurder. At a press conference,
Joline's mother made one last cry forhelp from the public as a job close
to day nine that I reported mydaughter missing. Sunday was a special day,

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not only for Mother's Day, butit was her birthday. She was
born on Mother's Day. God gaveme this special blessing. After my firstborn
infant son, Richard, was buried. We are all heartbroken. My daughter
was a loving mother to her children. Her children were her life. I

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need you, the news, thepublic to help cist the law enforcement agencies
to be their ears, to betheir eyes. Someone out there, someone
out there, knows something. Ibeg you. I beang you as a
mother to please keep coming forward withany information that you have, no matter

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how small. Help with any possibilitiesthey could help low keep my daughter,
for her, my three grandchildren whomiss her so much. The FBI searched
through the chess Or landfill and triedto find the trash bags they thought contained
Joline's body parts. They sent outdogs and horses, as well as teams

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of experts to try to find herremains. They found nothing. In jail,
Kimberly started to unravel. At first, she talked openly with other inmates
about her life and crimes, butafter a year of incarceration, she began
obsessing over her defense lawyer. Shewas convinced that he was Joline's cousin and

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would explode at every hearing. Spoileralert, The lawyer was not Joline's cousin.
But I probably didn't have to tellyou that we may want to put
her on mute while we finished this, judge, It's fine myself. I

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was to get rid of the publicDefender's office. Yeah, exactly. Jordan
Beard is Johnson's nephew. Jordan Beardis Jolia's cousin. Jordan Beard is Johnson's
nephew. Jordan Beard is Jolie Cumming'scousin. Jordan Beard Jolian Cuny Jolijordian Beard

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is Jolie's cousin. Jordan Beard isJolie Cumming's cousin. For Jordan Beard is
Jolie's cousin, and I views thisis all I have. Kessler screamed about
her attorney every chance she got,but the judge still deemed her fit to

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stand trial, and jail inmates reportedthat Kimberly would often pretend to talk on
the phone, but no one wouldbe on the other line. The only
person who would talk with her washer mom. Hello, I didn't get
to say goodbye. It just connectedme. I think you can call me

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any day. That was a colonyuntil they actually forced me to hang up,
but I don't really want to,you know, make them mad.
I haven't even done anything wrong,and then you treat me pretty bad,
so bailed me out under my meansthat I'm going under, which is Jennifer
Marty Fibers. And then eventually everything'sall going to come together. But you

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know it's my real name, kimKessler. But just you know, go
about it, you know, jumpedthrough the hoops like, okay, well
you can bail you out under Jennifer. Yeah, because that's all what they
arrested me under. They don't untilthe FBI corrects it. It's going to
be Jennifer. So yes night andsaid, oh my god, we're not

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going to they don't correct they will. You just put the money up for
Jennifer Marie Cybert. I gave youmy social I gave you my data birth,
I gave you the name my name, which is you know, my
alias or whatever, so that I'vebeen living under it for nineteen years.
You're all set. Oh my god, I were You're warm? Are you

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sleep an eye? Can they giveme a blanket? Now? Of course?
Terrible and the jail bail for Kimberlywas originally set at five hundred thousand
dollars. Needless to say, hermother, the mother that had waited eight
years to report her missing, didn'tpay for her bail either. As the
trial date drew closer, Kimberly beganstarving herself. When she was arrested,

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Kimberly was a plump woman, putit that way, but she went on
a hunger strike for months and lostnearly sixty pounds. Do a Google search,
she's unrecognizable. She was in andout of the hospital due to her
extreme weight loss. She also beganfighting with the staff and the jail.

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She would scream and yell into thenight. I'm sure the other inmates really
appreciated that. Sometimes she would takea dump in her cell and throw the
feces all over the walls at thecorrections officers. It was reported that Kimberly
cost the taxpayers an additional two hundredand fifteen thousand dollars because of her medical

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costs, suicide watch, transportation,and food. She made jail worse than
a living hell for everyone in thebuilding. Imagine making jail worse. Kimberly
also acted out at all the hearings, all of them. Here's how a

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typical one went in the day ofthe last day that he stayed in evidence
afforded the ottes evidence days. Sosure to compare that, stay here,
right, Sure, I stay here, and I'm going to say what I

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want when I want. How Iwas you silence me years? You silenced
me for years, so let everyoneknow the suggest aim of the icebergs.
Jordan here couples the thunder is Jolderamong his cousin brother Josh. Yeah,
he swept it under the run forthree and a half year as well with

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her mother or sun Dad, whoruns the jail recently retired, he sailed
us in. It took almost twoyears for Kimberly's murder trial, and due
to her psychotic behavior at hearings andrepeated outbursts about Jolene's relatives, he was
not allowed to be present for asingle day of it. Instead, she

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stayed in her cell on suicide watch, planning when she could throw the next
fist full of feces. This wasnow Kimberly's life. Not surprisingly, Kimberly
Kessler was convicted of the first degreemurder of Joline Cummings. She was sentenced

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to life in prison without the possibilityof parole. Sheriff Leeper, who had
worked diligently on the investigation, saidthis to the media. I don't for
one second believe that Kimberly Kessler,or whatever name she's going by today,
I don't believe this is her firstmurder. I don't at all After Kimberly

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was taken from the jail to hernew permanent home, the staff celebrated with
ice cream and cake that read incarcerationrelocation Celebration. They posted a picture of
all the correctional officers smiling with theirforks filled with cake. Good riddance,

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justice has been served. Everything thatcame to me through Jolie Jolian was here,
regardless of the life sentence. Joeyne'smother had one last request for Kimberly.
Where are the remains of my daughter? Give us some closure. I'm

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asking you from one mother to another. But her request would be forever fruitless.
Kimberly Kessler was locked away, andthey tossed away the proverbial key.
Now the only person she'll be rantingat is herself. Kimberly Kessler is a

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true psychopathic narcissist. Not the kindof narcissist you may be thinking. Not
the kind that spends too much timeon Twitter waiting for replies from some clever
post. They wrote, not thatkind of narcissist, but the real kind.
Kimberly Kessler is a case study onwhat happens when mental illness meets pure

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evil. She is a selfish,delusional liar with no regard for human life,
not even her own. Joline Cummingswas the ultimate victim. She didn't
know who she was dealing with.She thought, this Jennifer chick, it's
just a little off, and youknow, she's a hairdresser, so she's

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curious. Everybody knows hair dressers arecurious. Joe Lene had a good instinct
when everyone else at the salon wasoblivious to the signs. But that suspicious
instinct would prove deadly. What's thesaying curiosity killed the cat? There's a

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reason that saying exists. I liketo think that Joe Lene fought. She
didn't back down when Kimberly lunged ather with a pair of scissors. Kimberly
kicked and punched and scratched and screamed, but in the end she lost.
Kimberly was bigger, stronger, andmuch crazier than anyone could have ever suspected.

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Who would have thought that this chubby, oddball hairdresser and yoga pants could
be capable of such a heinous affair. Maybe one day Joelene's body will be
found, but there's still hope.However, for now, her family and

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her children can finally rest knowing thather killer will be locked up forever and
nobody, not a single human beingon earth gives a shit whether Kimberly lives
or dies in that cell. Allright, that does it. Thank you

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for joining us. If you haven'tchecked out plus Sword and Scale dot com,
slash plus is where to go.Until next time, I stay safe.

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Hello sort of Scale podcast. Iam a listener for a very long
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you guys are actually pretty great andit's one of the podcasts that I've listened
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