November 17, 2024 • 55 mins
Florida fire-fighter, Derrick Dorsey came home from work to discover his wife Kim dead from an apparent suicide. Then the police declared her death a murder and began exploring connections the Dorseys’ had with less than reputable people. But they quickly learn that not everyone is who they seem.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
My name's Mike. This is my show. It's called Sword
and Scale. Show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.
And today we're going to discuss a very interesting story.
But I'm gonna warn you in advance. I'm gonna offer
my opinion. I'm gonna offer my opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
A whole lot.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm gonna offer it so much it's gonna be really annoying.
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Is anyone really who you think they are? Today? We
present just the very best moments of our lives on
social media for the world to see. But that's not
really the whole picture, is it. There's a lot more
to us than what we show. What we show can
be intentionally deceiving sometimes. That's why it's important not to
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believe everything you see online, especially if it's coming from
an anonymous source. That influencer that you follow that puts
on makeup while talking about someone's death. Yeah she cries sometimes. Yeah,
maybe she's even depressed. Maybe our life's fallen apart behind
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the scenes and you don't even know it. Looks could
be deceiving. And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general.
There's lots of makeup tutorial true crime shows out there, sadly,
but the point is that sometimes people aren't who they
seem to be. Monsters are very much real, but they
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aren't always the person you first suspect. It was eight
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thirty am on October twenty eighth, twenty twelve, and a
Florida firefighter had just returned home after a grueling twenty
four hours shift to find out that his house had
been turned upside down.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One seller.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, my wife hurt herself, que and Andy was back.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
How did she hurt herself?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't know how cut herself or something caught. Okay,
let me get you on a farm rescue walm hold dad.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Jim the firefighter had come home to find his wife, Kim,
lying bloody at the foot of their bed. She was
naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been
pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Hire Rescue Cyrus. What did you dress first?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Wait a minute, okay, so tell me exactly what happened.
I don't know what, sir, we are sending rescue. You
have to tell me exactly what she did?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
What happened? Okay? Are you with her right now? Okay?
How old is she over?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
That doesn't make a good perence.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Kim had blood all over her face and hair. At
first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt herself,
so that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was
cold and posed like a in ballerina, with one leg
curled frozen in a pirouette. Kim had two white zip
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ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle.
Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of
a tragedy. As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift,
but it was much different now that it was happening
in his own home, and he was growing increasingly angry
as he waited for help.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Sir, we are sending rescue. Is she awake? Okay? Is
she breathing?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
No, I'm trying to get.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Off your This is when Kim's husband began to realize
that his wife was dead.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, we're on the phone, because when I asked him
what was going on?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
He didn't tell me she tried to commit suicide.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So so we're on the way too.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, all right, Sir Brian continue with CPR. We do
have rescue on the way. Said he was a He
said he was off duty fireman. What is your last name, sir?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
His name was Derek Dorsey. He was forty four years
old and had been married to his wife, Kim for
a decade. Now she lay naked and dead in their
master bedroom. The realization of what was happening made Derek
soften a little, and he finally let the tears out.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yes, okay, so so you think she's beyond any resuscitation.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Rescue is on the way. Okay, you know what happened.
My rescue is on the way.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This wasn't another shift as a firefighter. This was his house.
His bedroom was covered in his wife's blood. Derek finally
saw the situation for what it really was. He had
just lost his wife, and he had no idea what
had happened.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Did it just come home?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just come off duty? Okay?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Was he already depressed about something?
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I don't know what's inside?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (07:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kim and Derek Dorsey had a large, upscale house in
a gated community. Because they had no children, only three
miniature schnauzers, the couple were free to focus on their
careers and self care. They had a gym, a bar,
a billiard room, a big office, and a tanning room,
all the fine luxuries in modern living. Kim had her
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own construction company and also worked as a director of
training for the Quality Assurance Department of Inspection Depot. The
Dorseys had a pretty comfortable life. The door sas also
kept guns in the home for safety. Kim had won
in a drawer beside her bed, and now it was missing.
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Kim had no bullet holes in her but there were
obvious shots that had been fired into the walls.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh my god, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
So which door is open?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ward?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
W E R Okay, it's just hard to have a
stand something, you know that when you when you talk
a little loud to get a little distory, that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't even talk to anybody right now.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
We we ob to stay on the phone to the
off to get there when it's at this type of call.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, Jesus, yeah, he's here.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Dared all right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
When help arrived, Kim was quickly taken to the medical
examiner's office. When rescue lifted her body, they found a
broken pool queue on your neath her. Police began to
search the house and found more peculiarities. Besides the plastic
zip ties on Kim's body, the house was a mess.
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A dog statue at the front door had been kicked over,
Derek's home office had been destroyed. Paperwork was thrown everywhere,
and drawers were ripped open. In the guest bedroom, there
was blood on the mattress. Police also found a half
drunk bottle of Bacardi rum on the nightstand and cigarette
butts on the floor, but neither Derek nor Kim smoked.
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In fact, Kim despised smoking and forbade it. In the home,
Christmas wrapping paper had been tossed out of the closet
and chucked onto the floor downstairs, the kitchen sink had
been filled with TV remote controls for some reason. In
the billiard and games room, a custom pool queue was
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missing from its place on the shelf. It was the
same one found owned under Kim's body. After days of
looking into this bizarre scene, the police needed more to
work with. Perhaps this was a robbery gone wrong, so
they went to the public.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
Coming to you today because several days later after that
beginning of that investigation, we are not a whole lot
farther along than more Sunday morning. I would like to
solicit the public's help for information on this case. This
case has garnered quite a bit of attention because of
the fact this is a public servant's family members. The
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public has shown a lot of interest.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
And support thus far. I wanted to come forward at
this time asking for help.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Again.
Speaker 11 (10:44):
We worked that scene for several days, nearly a round
the plot, and like I.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Said, because of the lack of witnesses, the physical evidence, nothing.
Speaker 12 (10:53):
Has led us hold out farther to day in.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Identifying leading to a suspect than that Sunday morning. And
again this again the still servant's family member.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
And we want to make sure that anybody who has
that comfortable to help us these these type of crimes
occured to talk about him, family members, talk about him,
acquaintances that.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
The suspects or suspect in this case would talk about it.
Somebody knows something somewhere.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Kim's murder was brutal and messy. As police continued to
examine the scene and talk to Derek, they found even
more weird things. Derek's custom Harley Davidson Zippo lighter was
missing from its box. Whoever did this to Kim had
clearly stolen it, yet they'd left Derek's Rollicks watches on
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the nightstand and his computer untouched. In the garage, they
found a Lonely Wives porn magazine, which Derek swore was
not his.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
But it's a file away substantial, he describe some of that.
Speaker 11 (12:04):
I would prefer not to keep minded that there's just
about anybody out there to be our suspect, and I
don't want to let too much information to answer your
question out.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Too much information and be bad.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
In particular incidents, but know that there was substantial indications
through foul play Big Orgner.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Kim's head and face had been brutally beaten, her breasts
were bruised and her ribs were fractured. She had died
from one deep fatal stab wound to the neck. When
detectives asked Derek to turn on his DVD player in
the living room, he expected to see a movie he
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and Kim had been watching pop up on the screen,
but that didn't happen. Instead, a porn movie called Lonely
Wives came up. Derek got angry, motherfucker, that should not
be on there. That's the same magazine that's out in
the garage.
Speaker 11 (13:05):
It isn't gated neighborhood, so there may be some people
in that actual neighborhood who we haven't spoken to. If
there's relative information that anyone has regarding the activities that
Kim may have had that Saturday to that Sunday, we
would start to like to speak with them as well.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Now the police had their work cut out for them.
In the meantime, Derek prayed that somebody somewhere knew something.
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Derek Dorsey had returned home from a twenty four hour
firefighting shift to find his wife Kim, beaten and stabbed
to death in their upscale home. The house had been ransacked,
but in strange ways. The police found remote controls in
the kitchen sink as though someone had attempted to wash them,
zip ties around Kim's wrists, as well as a pornographic
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movie in the DVD player. None of Derek's Rolex watches
or computers had been taken. It seemed that whoever killed
Kim stuck around the house for a long while after
drinking and smoking and watching a porn movie called Lonely Wives.
I haven't seen that one. I wonder if there's a
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part two, or three or four. Derek Dorsey was cooperative
with the police. He admitted that things between him and
Kim were not so great. Then again, every couple goes
through tough times at one point or another. But Derek
had been kind of sleeping around with other women behind
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her back. Maybe Kim knew, maybe she didn't, but he
swore that he still loved his wife deeply.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
But she was a strong, beautiful, independent individual, worked hard
for everything she ever did.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
She was a productive member of society, and this is
just the type of person that she was. Derek said
he had nothing to gain from Kim's death. There was
no life insurance policy to be cashed out or a
new girlfriend to move in and take Kim's place. Plus,
Derek's alibi was solid and actually checked out. He was
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working at the fire station during the murder, So who
did this? Derek and Kim were a career oriented couple.
They had no kids, just a few dogs, and both
worked in the construction world. Kim had a degree in
civil engineering and headed up quality assurance for an inspection depot,
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where she helped Floridians prepare construction for hurricanes. Derek ran
his own general contracting business on top of being a firefighter,
so they had a lot of cash. But Kim took
her work very seriously and it soon weighed on her.
She couldn't turn off work, and she found herself taking antidepressants.
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She gained a lot of weight, her body changed, and
her mind didn't feel so great. The week she was killed,
she was planning on going back to the doctor to
switch up her medication. The side effects were taking a
major toll on her physical and mental health. That's why
Derek immediately thought she'd killed herself when he came home
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to find her.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know dead, Okay, tell me exactly what happened. I
don't know if you commit suicide.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Loved the arm and gone.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But Kim's death was not a suicide. The state of
the house told a story of turmoil. Kim had clearly
fought off whoever had attacked her. She'd even managed to
get a gun at one point and fire off some
rounds at her assailant, but she missed and the bullet
hit the wall. It was also determined that Kim had
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been raped. She died from blunt force trauma to her
head and a fatal stab wound. This attack was as
personal as it is sickening. Derek ran a general contracting
business and often employed various young guys on quick jobs.
He gave the police a few names, including Joshua Ville
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and Lance Kirkpatrick or l J as he was called.
Lance actually lived with the Dorseas at one point, and
Derek said that he would have taken a bullet for Kim.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
So tell me when you lived with that one?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Was that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
There? If I have to you know? Okay, So who
lives at the house to size the kids? No, they
don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Do you have a car? No?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
No car?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
All right?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
So that would he take you to work?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Or I mean like take you to the job any
things in the job side on transit fall life will
depend on one thing?
Speaker 14 (18:18):
Will come pick me up for I'm.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
So roughly how long if you don't care? As long
as you know, Derek, they've been married. They've been married
all time. I mean pretty much. I'm at who'd you
meet first? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I met Derek first because I was.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Working on his house and they moved in. This is
before they moved into.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
The house, the house they were building that house together.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, okay, I got you. Got okay.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Lets said that he met the door Seas when he
worked on their house. Then Derek would call him to
come do random jobs for his business.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
How long ago did you say? Would you say he
lived month and a half? Okay, I'm eating. I mean
I just went clean.
Speaker 15 (18:58):
Matter of fact, probably less than a month, because I
just went and cleaned the room.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
You know, he called me like a week or two ago.
I asked me to come clean the room up upstairs. Okay.
Well I didn't leave the trash, but I still had
some clothes.
Speaker 15 (19:14):
Up there, and you know, going to be cleaned, you
normal regular clean stuff like that. So you wouldn't do that, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorseas house
since he cleared out his stuff.
Speaker 15 (19:30):
So you move out when you move out or are
you living when you after you move out? His voice,
I went staying at the apartment, you know, I don't
know that when Brian.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend
named Brian Keefer, As he told police after leaving the
door seas he'd become a bit of a vagabond.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Where do you live? I'm just wherever I can say. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just
bring him in for fun. You see. Lance had told
Derek that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia
when Kim died, but that wasn't true. He was in
Jacksonville staying with his buddy Brian. Brian wasn't the most
savory guy, put it that way. He was straight up sketch.
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And the police soon got a hold of Brian and
brought him in to talk.
Speaker 16 (20:25):
There was a person that you know by the nickname
of l J. Do you know his real name?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
His Lance Kirkpatrick. But there is a middle name. Okay,
I forget what it was.
Speaker 16 (20:37):
And he goes by the nickname of LJJ.
Speaker 12 (20:40):
And do you have a nickname? Then you go by
is that money?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Whatever the black people gave me, Okay, I made no race.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
The woman that Money aka Brian is talking to is black.
Just for context anyway.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But the black people call you money like the circle
of drug dealers, that's the name.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Then you gave me for some reason.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I let it be that way. That way, I
know that's the people that are talking to me, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Brian was your typical Floridian drug dealer. I think GTA
six if you're a gamer. He was thin and tanned,
with a shaved head. He did the entire interview with
his shirt off because I don't know, because he wanted to.
He wanted to show off his cool tribal tattoos. You know,
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maybe because he fancied himself hot. I don't know. I
don't really know what goes through certain people's heads. But
he just sat there with his shirt off, and everyone
else in the room was wearing normal clothes.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
I want to direct your attention to Florida Georgia weekend.
Do you remember that weekend last past Did you have
the occasion to see I guess a lady by.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
The name of Melissa give her keys to LJ.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes, Florida Georgia weekend was the weekend of Kim's murder.
For those of you that aren't Southern trash like me,
let me translate. It's a big football thing. That's really
all you need to know. Lance said he was on
a shrimping boat that weekend, but he wasn't okay?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
And what kind of car does Melissa have?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Arab for time Toyota? Okay?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Do you recall what color it is?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Like navy blue, but his older so it's a little faded.
Speaker 16 (22:33):
Okay, to your knowledge? Was that did Melissa give LJ?
Speaker 12 (22:37):
Those keys? On Friday?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Saturday morning?
Speaker 12 (22:40):
Saturday morning, four thirty and four thirty in the morning, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Police had been at a standstill in their investigation, so
they began checking security footage from the gated community where
the Dorseys lived. In the morning, a few hours before
Derek found his wife, they saw the same blue rab
four driving on their street.
Speaker 17 (23:04):
Did you know where LJ Was going to pick up
drugs for the blackmail that was in the house with Melissa?
Speaker 12 (23:14):
Okay?
Speaker 16 (23:15):
Did he combat with the drugs? And did that concern you?
Was that unusual for him not to come back?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Very unusual because he was one in my employees and
like you, never had done anything wrong period, okay?
Speaker 16 (23:34):
And was the girl Melissa was she getting concerned too
about her car?
Speaker 8 (23:39):
She was a crackag, so she was just driving me
up the wall, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So you get the picture Lance and Brian wearing some
shady meth business Brian's house acts like a hub for
users to stop in, pick up drugs, do some and
then leave. Lance is staying there and working for Brian
because construction and everything else in his life has slowed down.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Brian was involved in the drug world, but he also
ran the legit business too.
Speaker 12 (24:13):
How long have you known Lja?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Three months?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Here?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Would work for me?
Speaker 12 (24:17):
And howd you met him?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
How I met him? When I was drug dealer's house.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I went over there to pay I helped GC get
off heroin for three months and I went and paid
off all his debts so that he could be my
partner in my business.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
And I wanted the black.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Gentlemen there stole my vehicle, so I was kind of
stuck there.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
And that's where I met LJA.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And he kind of explained to me what was going
on there and then he was having.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
A crappy life and then he be involved in that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And if I could please help him, and I was like,
I give you my word, buddy, I will, I will
try my hardest to help you in life. And I
believe you're I'll take you with maybe you and put
you to work.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
And what kind of business do you have?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
BK flooring, So I pretty much said, do complete home remodels,
but my main focus is flooring.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So you start to get a picture of the kind
of life Brian is leading flooring by day meth by night.
When Lance met Brian, he was technically homeless, using occasionally
and going down a dark path. On the night of
the murder, Lance takes Melissa's car to pick up some
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more drugs, but he never comes back. That same car
is seen on Derek Dorsey Street.
Speaker 16 (25:49):
Now, at some point in time, were you so concerned
that you went out with the person by the nickname
of t to go look for LJ in a cab?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I spent four.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Round eighty dollars for about four hours of riding around
cab looking for LJA everywhere he's been to, when everything.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
And were you able to find him?
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Didn't find TRASO okay?
Speaker 12 (26:13):
And did do you? Ultimately?
Speaker 16 (26:14):
I guess go home and go to sleep. Is that
what happened after you met?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I didn't want to go home because I didn't want
to face my girl or the girl.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The cars got to take it from him, So I
went to my mom's right and then I had my
girl brought over to my mom's and then I was
hoping that the other girl would go.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually, but she was pissed.
Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report
her RAB four stolen. She told him exactly what had
happened and gave Lance's name. That's how the RAB four
ended up on the police radar and how Lance's name
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clicked when it showed up on the report.
Speaker 16 (27:00):
My next understanding is that you get a call from
LJ on Sunday?
Speaker 12 (27:05):
Is that right? Is that a okay?
Speaker 16 (27:08):
And what does he tell you when he calls you
on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We need to meet and tells me the locations at
the gate on the south side.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
And touched, okay, do you go to the gate on
the south side?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Go there in Gator City, in Gator City cab and
he's standing out front and he tells.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Me, don't need you can go ahead. He tells me
that carry close it. No okay.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
What he tells me that he murdered somebody and is
pretty much he's going to prison and there's nothing that
can be done about it.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
And I'm saying, I said, what do you mean you
murder somebody and your life is over and you're going
to prison. He's like, I'm going to prison.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Brian was skeptical Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person.
Then they were both, well, you know, sketchy, I'll just
use the word sketchy.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Is your son dead? Is your ex wife dead? Am
I dead? Is my fiance dead?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No? Right?
Speaker 8 (28:21):
And he's like no.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And I was like, so there are people you care
about still in the world and he said yes. And
I said, so, why don't you focus on those people
for now? Buy your heads running in circles? And I
don't even know if you're telling me a story or not,
you know, because you've been out drinking, you have your
knuncle's broken, you know, And why don't you just focus
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on right now, this moment? What do you want to
do if you're going to prison but you're not turning yourself,
and what do you want to do right now? Do
you want to want the game? He was like, yeah,
I want. I want to get a beer and watch
the game. I was like, all right, I'll buy a
beer watch the game.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
As they were talking, Brian noticed how bad Lance's hand looked.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
His bone was sticking out of his hand.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Was he trying to treat it, and it looked like he.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Had cleaned himself up really good.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
So the last time you saw him, he didn't have
any injury.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So he had a cut on his hand, but he
did not have a broken finger. Okay. It was scared
that the DNA would have gotten on the body.
Speaker 16 (29:34):
And then he made those statements to you. Did you
have any idea if those were true or not.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I didn't know if he had just gotten into a fight.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
He didn't say that it was a woman. If he
had said it was a woman, then.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I would have, you know, kind of reactive one, you know,
but just coming there, kind of looking drunk, kind of
just you know, he was is really like slow and
you know, wasn't giving me no info.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
The only thing he said was I'm going to prison.
Speaker 12 (30:08):
So he looked like he had drink alcohol.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, ok, yeah, but I think he had drink alcohol
after the fact, you know. And he didn't tell me
nothing about how the murder happened at that time.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's when the two parted ways, but Lance would return
to Brian's mom's house later to watch that Florida Georgia game.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He came over and I made him two hammers and
the drink, and I walked upstairs and he was curled
up in the ball sleeping.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Lance hung out for a few days, but the two
never talked about the murder again. Then Brian saw something
on television about Lance's boss's wife committing suicide.
Speaker 12 (31:00):
Did you ever learn about this case at all? What
I think you said?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You thought it was a suous suicide suicide on it?
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (31:09):
So is that all the information you have from that?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
When I completely that he was bullshitting? Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, because how can you make a murder look like
a suicide if somebody shot?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Bet you, it made no.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Sense, okay?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And so the gunshots involved, I don't know, I don't
That's where I just kind of clicked in.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
My head like maybe he's losing them. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So essentially Brian forgot about the whole murder thing and
just moved on. Then Lance brought it up again and
things got serious.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
Well, let me ask you about the conversation that you
end up having. You said a couple of days after
he was of your mom's house. Tell me, like, where
y'all are when you have the conversation. The more details
of your mom's house. Ye, and what does what does
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he say at that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Point, he says he didn't say her. He just said
I hit I swow the poolstick so hard it broken
twelve pieces. It is a two thousand dollars poolstick.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
No details of the crime have been released to the
public yet. Brian was telling them things that only the
killer could have known, like the broken pool queue, which
was later found under Kim's dead body.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
Did he say why he was over there first?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Did he?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:38):
He said he was over there to pick up.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
His son's PlayStation three and xbox and games and some
clothes for so.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
At one point, Lance had been married and he had
a young son from that relationship. Apparently, when he went
back to the Dorseys to collect his son's things, Kim
wasn't happy.
Speaker 18 (33:03):
He said that the lady was gonna call his boss
was at the fire station to her husband, and.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
I guess he took her cell phone. That was what
he said.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He said, I took her cell phone, and I told
her to get out of my way, that I just
wanted my stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
And told her to leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I just wanted my stuff, and pretty much he just
goes into I don't know whether.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
He hit her with that full stick, but he.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Kind of emphasized swinging the full stick okay, And then
he emphasized being shot at five times.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
And then he said that.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He was waiting for the sixth shot because he knew
it was a revolver.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
But when he heard the window open, he thought the
lady was going.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Out through the window. He ran in there and beat.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Her with his hand and then stabbed her.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up.
The broken pool que, the five bullet holes in the wall,
and the blood on the window.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Why was she shooting at you? Where we're you know?
But I didn't really want to question him because I
didn't want.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
To stop him from telling me stuff, okay, like I'm
interrogating him with you, right so, and at the same time,
I didn't really believe him.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Let's let's go back to what he was telling you.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Though.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
He says that I guess she shoots in him, he
hits her and it stabs her. Where does he say
he stabbed her?
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I believe in the neck okay, up.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Facial neck area, so somewhere her neck or above yeah, okay?
Speaker 12 (35:04):
Does he say how many times.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Okay, well he did so as I stabbed her.
Speaker 16 (35:10):
Okay, and then what does he say? Does he say
that she was dead or does he say.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
Anything about that?
Speaker 8 (35:19):
He said Delai was saying his stop, you're killing.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Brian's statement secured Lance as the killer, but still the
question of why remained. Why was Kim so angry when
Lance showed up at the house to get his things.
This was someone that Derek had told the cops would
take a bullet for Kim. Derek had nothing bad to
say about Lance, so why was Kim threatened when he
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showed up at her house. Brian had revealed the details
of the gruesome attack, and he was about to give
police a glimpse into the motive, and it didn't make
Derek look all that wholesome. Florida firefighter and general contractor
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Derek Dorsey had come home to find his upscale home
ransacked and his wife Kim brutally murdered. The couple's former employee,
Lance Kirkpatrick, had been seen driving a stolen car to
the Dorsey's house on the day of the murder, and
now his former boss, Brian Keefer, had told police that
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Lance admitted to the murder without Brian. The police didn't
have much. They had to keep him talking.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
And then what does he say happens next?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
He said he was just so out of it. He's
stayed there for two hours waiting on the police to
get there.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
And then he left and then went back there two
hours later because he realized he left his phone there,
and then he cleaned up around there.
Speaker 16 (37:20):
What do you say he did to clean up?
Speaker 8 (37:23):
He just said he clean up. He said he put
the phone in the trash, impacted her for trash.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Disposing, okay, But he did do something with her phone.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, No, he took her phone in the beginning, okay,
because he tried to call her husband.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
He tried to call her, she tried to call there.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was again when Lance showed up at the doors
He's house to get his son's things. He told Brian
that Kim got so upset she started threatening to call
Derek at work, but Derek had told police that Lance
was a good guy who would never do anything to Kim.
Then Brian revealed something sinister, and he.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Had said, her husband know she's on her, The husband
cheats on her.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
Yeah, he did tell you.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That, Yeah, And that him and the husband had sex
or some prostitute at a job about a week and
a half ago.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
And I said, well, then he probably doesn't.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Really care about her, and he was like, no, he
cares about her.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
And that's all that was said about that.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Derek had admitted to police that he had affairs, but
no one knew that he was having threesomes with prostitutes
and his employees. Maybe Kim had known about what Lance
and Derek had done. Maybe she was upset about it
when he showed up to their house. What the police
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did know from the evidence was that LJ showed up
on an ounce after a bender and demanded his son's things.
We can assume that Kim was frightened and threatened to
call Derek, which resulted in Lance attacking her. We don't
know how or why, but he did. The fight escalated
and Lance tied Kim to her bedside table with zip
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ties as he ran around the house. Kim managed to
get out her revolver and shoot five times. Then she
pulled free and tried to escape out the window. That's
when Lance entered the room again and killed her.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
In the beginning, I made a stupid comment, I was like,
was there any motive for you?
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Doing this. You know. I was trying to get a
reason why you would kill.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Somebody, you know, and he was like, no, there was
no motive at all. It was just the wrong person
in the wrong place at the wrong time, and they
got in a way of me getting my stuff from
my son, and I always regret it. I was getting
everything I could out of him because I'm not gonna
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sit there and let somebody get murdered. And even though
I thought it was a good person, I'm not gonna
just sit there and let somebody get murdered.
Speaker 12 (40:14):
Did you say he purposely did not take something.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Yes, he said he purposely didn't take anything so.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It wouldn't look like it was him there, you know,
like if he would have taken anything from his room,
it would have looked like it was him.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
So of course Jesus, he said.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
That, you know, they were gonna look at it like
it was devot that killed her or something, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Like Lance hung around the door Sea's house for hours
after he murdered Kim. He left and came back. He
watched that porn movie and he raped Kim. Then he
tried to wash the remote controls of his DNA. He
didn't think things through exactly. I mean, he was drunk
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and high when he did this. In fact, he was
out of his mind.
Speaker 16 (41:09):
I think earlier I stopped you when you were trying
to say that he was concerned about his DNA being there,
because he was.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He had punched holes in the wall like two days
previous in my place because Luther Hines kicked the door
to my house because he dis a whole nother story,
but he anyways, that's why he punched holes in the
wall and cuts on his.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
Okay, so he thought.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
The DNA from those cuts when he punched the lady's
face I guess was cut open. He thought that they
were going to piece it together and that's how they
were going to catch him.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Lance's DNA was eventually found all over the house. He
drank from bottles. He left cigarette butts on the carpet.
He didn't really try to clean up very much.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Does l J smoke?
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
What does he smoke?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
When I met him, he smoke Morrez. Now he smokes
Marvelo Special Blind seventy two's. I spoke Marvel Ultralizes and
he pretty much says he hasn't had money. He's been
smoking my Marvelo Oldtralizes too, so as are his three brands.
He would be around.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Right after they spoke with Brian, Lance was picked up.
The police expected him to be silent, but he talked.
He started yapping. I guess he doesn't know the golden
rule we keep repeating here, don't talk to cops.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
When's the last time you were over at Derek's house?
I went over there a week ago, maybe a week
and a half ago, looking for h see what he
was if he gets the money from get all stuff
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like that. But he wasn't home. Okay, who was there?
And I thought him was the promply outside? But you
know he answered the door. So did you think he
would think he wasn't even there? Where the keys to
be supposed to be a partner to the dog right there?
Speaker 8 (43:18):
What the dog were?
Speaker 6 (43:19):
There's a little dog, but my big dog by the door.
Speaker 15 (43:24):
Yeah, and you looked there and see if it wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Lance admitted to the police that he knew where Kim
and Derek kept their extra front door key under the
dog statue. Now, if you recall that particular statue was
kicked over during the murder, It was all starting to
come together.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Do you remember what day it was that he went
over there and did that. Yeah, it was Georgia floor,
Georgia floor, So it was.
Speaker 8 (43:54):
Georgia floor's right before the game on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna say for the game.
Speaker 19 (44:00):
So you went over there and he said, you're going
over to see there, you know, just carl former to
try to get some workout.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Time is some work is usually how it goes. And like, okay,
I can use the romatas league here, here's a gass. Okay,
that's not usually. What time did you go over here?
I think it was right.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Before the game was playing, around one and.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Two, four and two. That was, And that's Saturday, Florida, Georgia.
Did you watch the game?
Speaker 14 (44:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I watch the game. Where did you watch the game?
I watched the game at brian Mom's house.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
What is Lance's strategy here? Is he trying to admit
he went over there to account for his DNA and
been trying to set up an alibi by watching the
game at Brian's. This is seriously a unintelligent man.
Speaker 19 (44:46):
Now, when you went over there on Saturday, how did
you get over to Florida, Georgia?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Friend of mine?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Okay, who's that.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
Her name?
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Last name, Melissa is her first name. Yeah, and up
in her little car? What kind of cars she had?
A little blue masud?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
My lord, the lies. Melissa's car is the one he stole,
just in case you forgot. Oh hey, Lance, what are
you doing?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
What if I told you I didn't believe on your story? Story?
Speaker 15 (45:21):
Well, only part of the story that you believe, the part.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
About how you got.
Speaker 15 (45:25):
Over the bars south on Saturday, Okay, with melissa truck.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Okay, how did they get over there? Well, I know
he's had Melissa's truck. Molislam wasn't in that truck.
Speaker 12 (45:42):
Well, j.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
We're avoiding the big question here.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
I've been asking the question since they got.
Speaker 14 (45:48):
Yeah, I know you have been.
Speaker 19 (45:50):
Okay, Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this
next step here.
Speaker 14 (45:55):
Okay, all right, I know you.
Speaker 19 (45:58):
Went inside the house last stuff our two centuries in Florida, Okay,
all right, And you're good friends with Derek, right, And
I know you're.
Speaker 15 (46:09):
Just talking to people, okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
You gotta remember I talked to a lot of people, okay,
And I spent.
Speaker 15 (46:16):
All freaking day to day talking to people, Okay, all right,
And people talk, okay, and people tell us things.
Speaker 14 (46:23):
Okay, all right, and.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I don't think you went inside the house. Okay, I've
been inside the house.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Well yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
When we talk to people, we talk to a lot
of people.
Speaker 19 (46:44):
We'll get a lot of information, all right, and then
we look at her its okay, yeah, do you know
how cellphone was?
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Basically, tell me how so phone is.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
This is when the cops had to explain to idiot
drug addict Lance that his phone is a tracking device
and it follows him wherever he goes, leaving a digital footprint.
It's amazing that people on Earth in twenty twenty four
still aren't aware of that. Must explain our current state
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of political affairs. They also had to explain to this
drain on society that there was evidence at the scene,
like security camera footage, and that the evidence didn't really
look all that good for him.
Speaker 15 (47:38):
Everybody has a side of the story. We have to
afford you an opportunity for you to tell us your
side of the story. Okay, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
What story I don't. We'll get there.
Speaker 15 (47:50):
It's not costing a Listen, let me talk right, you
follow me, thank guys. Okay, when I say you're not
a monster. I know this because you talk for somebody
until what happened. Okay, we've spoken to him and he's
already close what you.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Said, and with that, Lance is pretty much done. He
stopped talking, but the detective still swabbed his cheeks to
confirm the DNA and arrested him for Kim's murder.
Speaker 20 (48:19):
Horton, thank you all for coming out on no busy
news day Sunday Out Timber twenty eighth, twenty twelve, thirty two,
the thirty six hundred block peast Berry Drive, thirty eight
year old Kim Marie Dorsey was found dead by her.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
Rescue husband.
Speaker 20 (48:38):
We actually received the information after that. Some of that
information that we received led us to a person who
we had some knowledge of, a person who had in
the past lived with the victim and her husband. That
person was thirty one year old Lance Eugene Kirkpatrick. With
that information, we actually found over the next days after
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he got that subject to us an associate of Kurson
Patricks who cooperated.
Speaker 8 (49:06):
With investigators with this case.
Speaker 20 (49:09):
The cooperation he provided was substantial and really broke our case.
Led us to make the arrest of Kirkpatrick.
Speaker 8 (49:19):
King Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Derek was beside himself when he found out that Lance
was the one that killed his wife.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I howled like.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
Some wounded animal. Kind of trial because of the betrayal.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
He held up photographs of Kim to the camera and
let the tears roll.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
This is the person he took away from me, her family,
and everyone else. Kim taught me so much.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I just wish I could have been a better person
for her. It took two years for Lance's family to
get to trial. He made it a living hell for
Kim and her family members, dragging out the proceedings with
lies and various tactics in order to attempt to save
himself from prison. In the end, it didn't work. He
faced a courtroom for the rape and murder of Kim Dorsey,
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and he was sentenced to three life terms for his heinous,
disgusting crime. Derek spoke directly at Lance during the sentencing.
The man he had once considered a buddy, so close
that they even had sex with the same prostitute at
the same time, was now going to jail for murdering
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his wife. And yes, I did say prostitute, not sex worker,
because no matter what your social media told you, fucking
ain't work.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
For two and a half years.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I've stood by and watched the defend and prolong the
proceedings with lies, besartching Kim's name, and even snitching on every.
Speaker 8 (50:46):
Person he knows in order to save his own skin.
Good luck with that reputation in prison, Hill Jada.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Derek attended grief counseling after Kim's death and began working
with a psychologist who would later become his new wife.
The two started a mental health practice together.
Speaker 21 (51:04):
And Derek Dorsey is now director of operations for a
local mental health care counseling facility, and he's also still
a firefighter, but has less than a year before retirement.
He says, above all, he wants to thank everyone involved
in his case, the prosecutors and the detectives.
Speaker 12 (51:20):
He said, they were all amazing.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Everyone in this tragic story was a different person than
they presented to the world. There's a lot of that
going around in twenty twenty four, especially after an election.
I might add Derek was a firefighter and a business
owner who had a beautiful house and a beautiful wife,
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just like David Byrne. Yet behind her back, he was
cheating on her with many women and even having sex
with prostitutes with his CD employees. Kim seemed like a happy,
successful businesswoman, but inside she was crumbling and fighting a
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terrible depression. Brian looked like a sketchy Floridian drug dealer
and a roofer, but he was the hero of this story.
He rescued men who were down and out, and when
one of them confessed to a murder, he immediately turned
him in. He actually had a conscience. Sometimes looks can
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be deceiving, and Lance well, Lance was a troubled, sad
man who may have been grateful for the help that
the Dorseas gave him, but he committed a brutal, disgusting
act towards Kim and will never truly understand why monsters
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are real and could be anyone. Heroes are real too,
and they don't always come looking like you'd expect. That
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doesn't for yet another one. Thank you so much for
joining us once again, just to let you know. There
may be a few hurdles with our schedule in the
coming weeks, just life stuff, things that kind of take
my time away that cannot be helped unfortunately, and I
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must be present for so apologies in advance. If we
don't put out a show here and there in the
coming weeks. It's not something I'm happy about or looking
forward to. I assure you
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
My name's Mike. This is my show. It's called Sword
and Scale. Show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.
And today we're going to discuss a very interesting story.
But I'm gonna warn you in advance. I'm gonna offer
my opinion. I'm gonna offer my opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
A whole lot.
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I'm gonna offer it so much it's gonna be really annoying.
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Is anyone really who you think they are? Today? We
present just the very best moments of our lives on
social media for the world to see. But that's not
really the whole picture, is it. There's a lot more
to us than what we show. What we show can
be intentionally deceiving sometimes. That's why it's important not to
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believe everything you see online, especially if it's coming from
an anonymous source. That influencer that you follow that puts
on makeup while talking about someone's death. Yeah she cries sometimes. Yeah,
maybe she's even depressed. Maybe our life's fallen apart behind
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the scenes and you don't even know it. Looks could
be deceiving. And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general.
There's lots of makeup tutorial true crime shows out there, sadly,
but the point is that sometimes people aren't who they
seem to be. Monsters are very much real, but they
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aren't always the person you first suspect. It was eight
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thirty am on October twenty eighth, twenty twelve, and a
Florida firefighter had just returned home after a grueling twenty
four hours shift to find out that his house had
been turned upside down.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One seller.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, my wife hurt herself, que and Andy was back.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
How did she hurt herself?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't know how cut herself or something caught. Okay,
let me get you on a farm rescue walm hold dad.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Jim the firefighter had come home to find his wife, Kim,
lying bloody at the foot of their bed. She was
naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been
pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Hire Rescue Cyrus. What did you dress first?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Wait a minute, okay, so tell me exactly what happened.
I don't know what, sir, we are sending rescue. You
have to tell me exactly what she did?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
What happened? Okay? Are you with her right now? Okay?
How old is she over?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
That doesn't make a good perence.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Kim had blood all over her face and hair. At
first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt herself,
so that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was
cold and posed like a in ballerina, with one leg
curled frozen in a pirouette. Kim had two white zip
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ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle.
Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of
a tragedy. As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift,
but it was much different now that it was happening
in his own home, and he was growing increasingly angry
as he waited for help.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Sir, we are sending rescue. Is she awake? Okay? Is
she breathing?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
No, I'm trying to get.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Off your This is when Kim's husband began to realize
that his wife was dead.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, we're on the phone, because when I asked him
what was going on?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
He didn't tell me she tried to commit suicide.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
So so we're on the way too.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, all right, Sir Brian continue with CPR. We do
have rescue on the way. Said he was a He
said he was off duty fireman. What is your last name, sir?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
His name was Derek Dorsey. He was forty four years
old and had been married to his wife, Kim for
a decade. Now she lay naked and dead in their
master bedroom. The realization of what was happening made Derek
soften a little, and he finally let the tears out.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yes, okay, so so you think she's beyond any resuscitation.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Rescue is on the way. Okay, you know what happened.
My rescue is on the way.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This wasn't another shift as a firefighter. This was his house.
His bedroom was covered in his wife's blood. Derek finally
saw the situation for what it really was. He had
just lost his wife, and he had no idea what
had happened.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Did it just come home?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just come off duty? Okay?
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Was he already depressed about something?
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I don't know what's inside?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (07:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kim and Derek Dorsey had a large, upscale house in
a gated community. Because they had no children, only three
miniature schnauzers, the couple were free to focus on their
careers and self care. They had a gym, a bar,
a billiard room, a big office, and a tanning room,
all the fine luxuries in modern living. Kim had her
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own construction company and also worked as a director of
training for the Quality Assurance Department of Inspection Depot. The
Dorseys had a pretty comfortable life. The door sas also
kept guns in the home for safety. Kim had won
in a drawer beside her bed, and now it was missing.
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Kim had no bullet holes in her but there were
obvious shots that had been fired into the walls.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh my god, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
So which door is open?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ward?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
W E R Okay, it's just hard to have a
stand something, you know that when you when you talk
a little loud to get a little distory, that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't even talk to anybody right now.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
We we ob to stay on the phone to the
off to get there when it's at this type of call.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, Jesus, yeah, he's here.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Dared all right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
When help arrived, Kim was quickly taken to the medical
examiner's office. When rescue lifted her body, they found a
broken pool queue on your neath her. Police began to
search the house and found more peculiarities. Besides the plastic
zip ties on Kim's body, the house was a mess.
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A dog statue at the front door had been kicked over,
Derek's home office had been destroyed. Paperwork was thrown everywhere,
and drawers were ripped open. In the guest bedroom, there
was blood on the mattress. Police also found a half
drunk bottle of Bacardi rum on the nightstand and cigarette
butts on the floor, but neither Derek nor Kim smoked.
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In fact, Kim despised smoking and forbade it. In the home,
Christmas wrapping paper had been tossed out of the closet
and chucked onto the floor downstairs, the kitchen sink had
been filled with TV remote controls for some reason. In
the billiard and games room, a custom pool queue was
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missing from its place on the shelf. It was the
same one found owned under Kim's body. After days of
looking into this bizarre scene, the police needed more to
work with. Perhaps this was a robbery gone wrong, so
they went to the public.
Speaker 10 (10:14):
Coming to you today because several days later after that
beginning of that investigation, we are not a whole lot
farther along than more Sunday morning. I would like to
solicit the public's help for information on this case. This
case has garnered quite a bit of attention because of
the fact this is a public servant's family members. The
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public has shown a lot of interest.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
And support thus far. I wanted to come forward at
this time asking for help.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Again.
Speaker 11 (10:44):
We worked that scene for several days, nearly a round
the plot, and like I.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Said, because of the lack of witnesses, the physical evidence, nothing.
Speaker 12 (10:53):
Has led us hold out farther to day in.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Identifying leading to a suspect than that Sunday morning. And
again this again the still servant's family member.
Speaker 13 (11:05):
And we want to make sure that anybody who has
that comfortable to help us these these type of crimes
occured to talk about him, family members, talk about him,
acquaintances that.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
The suspects or suspect in this case would talk about it.
Somebody knows something somewhere.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Kim's murder was brutal and messy. As police continued to
examine the scene and talk to Derek, they found even
more weird things. Derek's custom Harley Davidson Zippo lighter was
missing from its box. Whoever did this to Kim had
clearly stolen it, yet they'd left Derek's Rollicks watches on
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the nightstand and his computer untouched. In the garage, they
found a Lonely Wives porn magazine, which Derek swore was
not his.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
But it's a file away substantial, he describe some of that.
Speaker 11 (12:04):
I would prefer not to keep minded that there's just
about anybody out there to be our suspect, and I
don't want to let too much information to answer your
question out.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Too much information and be bad.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
In particular incidents, but know that there was substantial indications
through foul play Big Orgner.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Kim's head and face had been brutally beaten, her breasts
were bruised and her ribs were fractured. She had died
from one deep fatal stab wound to the neck. When
detectives asked Derek to turn on his DVD player in
the living room, he expected to see a movie he
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and Kim had been watching pop up on the screen,
but that didn't happen. Instead, a porn movie called Lonely
Wives came up. Derek got angry, motherfucker, that should not
be on there. That's the same magazine that's out in
the garage.
Speaker 11 (13:05):
It isn't gated neighborhood, so there may be some people
in that actual neighborhood who we haven't spoken to. If
there's relative information that anyone has regarding the activities that
Kim may have had that Saturday to that Sunday, we
would start to like to speak with them as well.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Now the police had their work cut out for them.
In the meantime, Derek prayed that somebody somewhere knew something.
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Derek Dorsey had returned home from a twenty four hour
firefighting shift to find his wife Kim, beaten and stabbed
to death in their upscale home. The house had been ransacked,
but in strange ways. The police found remote controls in
the kitchen sink as though someone had attempted to wash them,
zip ties around Kim's wrists, as well as a pornographic
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movie in the DVD player. None of Derek's Rolex watches
or computers had been taken. It seemed that whoever killed
Kim stuck around the house for a long while after
drinking and smoking and watching a porn movie called Lonely Wives.
I haven't seen that one. I wonder if there's a
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part two, or three or four. Derek Dorsey was cooperative
with the police. He admitted that things between him and
Kim were not so great. Then again, every couple goes
through tough times at one point or another. But Derek
had been kind of sleeping around with other women behind
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her back. Maybe Kim knew, maybe she didn't, but he
swore that he still loved his wife deeply.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
But she was a strong, beautiful, independent individual, worked hard
for everything she ever did.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
She was a productive member of society, and this is
just the type of person that she was. Derek said
he had nothing to gain from Kim's death. There was
no life insurance policy to be cashed out or a
new girlfriend to move in and take Kim's place. Plus,
Derek's alibi was solid and actually checked out. He was
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working at the fire station during the murder, So who
did this? Derek and Kim were a career oriented couple.
They had no kids, just a few dogs, and both
worked in the construction world. Kim had a degree in
civil engineering and headed up quality assurance for an inspection depot,
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where she helped Floridians prepare construction for hurricanes. Derek ran
his own general contracting business on top of being a firefighter,
so they had a lot of cash. But Kim took
her work very seriously and it soon weighed on her.
She couldn't turn off work, and she found herself taking antidepressants.
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She gained a lot of weight, her body changed, and
her mind didn't feel so great. The week she was killed,
she was planning on going back to the doctor to
switch up her medication. The side effects were taking a
major toll on her physical and mental health. That's why
Derek immediately thought she'd killed herself when he came home
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to find her.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know dead, Okay, tell me exactly what happened. I
don't know if you commit suicide.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Loved the arm and gone.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But Kim's death was not a suicide. The state of
the house told a story of turmoil. Kim had clearly
fought off whoever had attacked her. She'd even managed to
get a gun at one point and fire off some
rounds at her assailant, but she missed and the bullet
hit the wall. It was also determined that Kim had
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been raped. She died from blunt force trauma to her
head and a fatal stab wound. This attack was as
personal as it is sickening. Derek ran a general contracting
business and often employed various young guys on quick jobs.
He gave the police a few names, including Joshua Ville
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and Lance Kirkpatrick or l J as he was called.
Lance actually lived with the Dorseas at one point, and
Derek said that he would have taken a bullet for Kim.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
So tell me when you lived with that one?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Was that.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
There? If I have to you know? Okay, So who
lives at the house to size the kids? No, they
don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Do you have a car? No?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
No car?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
All right?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
So that would he take you to work?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Or I mean like take you to the job any
things in the job side on transit fall life will
depend on one thing?
Speaker 14 (18:18):
Will come pick me up for I'm.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
So roughly how long if you don't care? As long
as you know, Derek, they've been married. They've been married
all time. I mean pretty much. I'm at who'd you
meet first? Well?
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I met Derek first because I was.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Working on his house and they moved in. This is
before they moved into.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
The house, the house they were building that house together.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah, okay, I got you. Got okay.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Lets said that he met the door Seas when he
worked on their house. Then Derek would call him to
come do random jobs for his business.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
How long ago did you say? Would you say he
lived month and a half? Okay, I'm eating. I mean
I just went clean.
Speaker 15 (18:58):
Matter of fact, probably less than a month, because I
just went and cleaned the room.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
You know, he called me like a week or two ago.
I asked me to come clean the room up upstairs. Okay.
Well I didn't leave the trash, but I still had
some clothes.
Speaker 15 (19:14):
Up there, and you know, going to be cleaned, you
normal regular clean stuff like that. So you wouldn't do that, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorseas house
since he cleared out his stuff.
Speaker 15 (19:30):
So you move out when you move out or are
you living when you after you move out? His voice,
I went staying at the apartment, you know, I don't
know that when Brian.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend
named Brian Keefer, As he told police after leaving the
door seas he'd become a bit of a vagabond.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Where do you live? I'm just wherever I can say. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just
bring him in for fun. You see. Lance had told
Derek that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia
when Kim died, but that wasn't true. He was in
Jacksonville staying with his buddy Brian. Brian wasn't the most
savory guy, put it that way. He was straight up sketch.
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And the police soon got a hold of Brian and
brought him in to talk.
Speaker 16 (20:25):
There was a person that you know by the nickname
of l J. Do you know his real name?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
His Lance Kirkpatrick. But there is a middle name. Okay,
I forget what it was.
Speaker 16 (20:37):
And he goes by the nickname of LJJ.
Speaker 12 (20:40):
And do you have a nickname? Then you go by
is that money?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Whatever the black people gave me, Okay, I made no race.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
No problem.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
The woman that Money aka Brian is talking to is black.
Just for context anyway.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But the black people call you money like the circle
of drug dealers, that's the name.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Then you gave me for some reason.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I let it be that way. That way, I
know that's the people that are talking to me, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Brian was your typical Floridian drug dealer. I think GTA
six if you're a gamer. He was thin and tanned,
with a shaved head. He did the entire interview with
his shirt off because I don't know, because he wanted to.
He wanted to show off his cool tribal tattoos. You know,
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maybe because he fancied himself hot. I don't know. I
don't really know what goes through certain people's heads. But
he just sat there with his shirt off, and everyone
else in the room was wearing normal clothes.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
I want to direct your attention to Florida Georgia weekend.
Do you remember that weekend last past Did you have
the occasion to see I guess a lady by.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
The name of Melissa give her keys to LJ.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes, Florida Georgia weekend was the weekend of Kim's murder.
For those of you that aren't Southern trash like me,
let me translate. It's a big football thing. That's really
all you need to know. Lance said he was on
a shrimping boat that weekend, but he wasn't okay?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
And what kind of car does Melissa have?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Arab for time Toyota? Okay?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Do you recall what color it is?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Like navy blue, but his older so it's a little faded.
Speaker 16 (22:33):
Okay, to your knowledge? Was that did Melissa give LJ?
Speaker 12 (22:37):
Those keys? On Friday?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Saturday morning?
Speaker 12 (22:40):
Saturday morning, four thirty and four thirty in the morning, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Police had been at a standstill in their investigation, so
they began checking security footage from the gated community where
the Dorseys lived. In the morning, a few hours before
Derek found his wife, they saw the same blue rab
four driving on their street.
Speaker 17 (23:04):
Did you know where LJ Was going to pick up
drugs for the blackmail that was in the house with Melissa?
Speaker 12 (23:14):
Okay?
Speaker 16 (23:15):
Did he combat with the drugs? And did that concern you?
Was that unusual for him not to come back?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Very unusual because he was one in my employees and
like you, never had done anything wrong period, okay?
Speaker 16 (23:34):
And was the girl Melissa was she getting concerned too
about her car?
Speaker 8 (23:39):
She was a crackag, so she was just driving me
up the wall, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So you get the picture Lance and Brian wearing some
shady meth business Brian's house acts like a hub for
users to stop in, pick up drugs, do some and
then leave. Lance is staying there and working for Brian
because construction and everything else in his life has slowed down.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Brian was involved in the drug world, but he also
ran the legit business too.
Speaker 12 (24:13):
How long have you known Lja?
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Three months?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Here?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Would work for me?
Speaker 12 (24:17):
And howd you met him?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
How I met him? When I was drug dealer's house.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I went over there to pay I helped GC get
off heroin for three months and I went and paid
off all his debts so that he could be my
partner in my business.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
And I wanted the black.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Gentlemen there stole my vehicle, so I was kind of
stuck there.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
And that's where I met LJA.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And he kind of explained to me what was going
on there and then he was having.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
A crappy life and then he be involved in that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And if I could please help him, and I was like,
I give you my word, buddy, I will, I will
try my hardest to help you in life. And I
believe you're I'll take you with maybe you and put
you to work.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
And what kind of business do you have?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
BK flooring, So I pretty much said, do complete home remodels,
but my main focus is flooring.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
So you start to get a picture of the kind
of life Brian is leading flooring by day meth by night.
When Lance met Brian, he was technically homeless, using occasionally
and going down a dark path. On the night of
the murder, Lance takes Melissa's car to pick up some
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more drugs, but he never comes back. That same car
is seen on Derek Dorsey Street.
Speaker 16 (25:49):
Now, at some point in time, were you so concerned
that you went out with the person by the nickname
of t to go look for LJ in a cab?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
I spent four.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Round eighty dollars for about four hours of riding around
cab looking for LJA everywhere he's been to, when everything.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
And were you able to find him?
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Didn't find TRASO okay?
Speaker 12 (26:13):
And did do you? Ultimately?
Speaker 16 (26:14):
I guess go home and go to sleep. Is that
what happened after you met?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I didn't want to go home because I didn't want
to face my girl or the girl.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
The cars got to take it from him, So I
went to my mom's right and then I had my
girl brought over to my mom's and then I was
hoping that the other girl would go.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually, but she was pissed.
Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report
her RAB four stolen. She told him exactly what had
happened and gave Lance's name. That's how the RAB four
ended up on the police radar and how Lance's name
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clicked when it showed up on the report.
Speaker 16 (27:00):
My next understanding is that you get a call from
LJ on Sunday?
Speaker 12 (27:05):
Is that right? Is that a okay?
Speaker 16 (27:08):
And what does he tell you when he calls you
on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We need to meet and tells me the locations at
the gate on the south side.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
And touched, okay, do you go to the gate on
the south side?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Go there in Gator City, in Gator City cab and
he's standing out front and he tells.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Me, don't need you can go ahead. He tells me
that carry close it. No okay.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
What he tells me that he murdered somebody and is
pretty much he's going to prison and there's nothing that
can be done about it.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
And I'm saying, I said, what do you mean you
murder somebody and your life is over and you're going
to prison. He's like, I'm going to prison.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Brian was skeptical Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person.
Then they were both, well, you know, sketchy, I'll just
use the word sketchy.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Is your son dead? Is your ex wife dead? Am
I dead? Is my fiance dead?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No? Right?
Speaker 8 (28:21):
And he's like no.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And I was like, so there are people you care
about still in the world and he said yes. And
I said, so, why don't you focus on those people
for now? Buy your heads running in circles? And I
don't even know if you're telling me a story or not,
you know, because you've been out drinking, you have your
knuncle's broken, you know, And why don't you just focus
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on right now, this moment? What do you want to
do if you're going to prison but you're not turning yourself,
and what do you want to do right now? Do
you want to want the game? He was like, yeah,
I want. I want to get a beer and watch
the game. I was like, all right, I'll buy a
beer watch the game.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
As they were talking, Brian noticed how bad Lance's hand looked.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
His bone was sticking out of his hand.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Was he trying to treat it, and it looked like he.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Had cleaned himself up really good.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
So the last time you saw him, he didn't have
any injury.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So he had a cut on his hand, but he
did not have a broken finger. Okay. It was scared
that the DNA would have gotten on the body.
Speaker 16 (29:34):
And then he made those statements to you. Did you
have any idea if those were true or not.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I didn't know if he had just gotten into a fight.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
He didn't say that it was a woman. If he
had said it was a woman, then.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I would have, you know, kind of reactive one, you know,
but just coming there, kind of looking drunk, kind of
just you know, he was is really like slow and
you know, wasn't giving me no info.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
You know.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
The only thing he said was I'm going to prison.
Speaker 12 (30:08):
So he looked like he had drink alcohol.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, ok, yeah, but I think he had drink alcohol
after the fact, you know. And he didn't tell me
nothing about how the murder happened at that time.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's when the two parted ways, but Lance would return
to Brian's mom's house later to watch that Florida Georgia game.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He came over and I made him two hammers and
the drink, and I walked upstairs and he was curled
up in the ball sleeping.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Lance hung out for a few days, but the two
never talked about the murder again. Then Brian saw something
on television about Lance's boss's wife committing suicide.
Speaker 12 (31:00):
Did you ever learn about this case at all? What
I think you said?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You thought it was a suous suicide suicide on it?
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (31:09):
So is that all the information you have from that?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
When I completely that he was bullshitting? Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, because how can you make a murder look like
a suicide if somebody shot?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Bet you, it made no.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Sense, okay?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And so the gunshots involved, I don't know, I don't
That's where I just kind of clicked in.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
My head like maybe he's losing them. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So essentially Brian forgot about the whole murder thing and
just moved on. Then Lance brought it up again and
things got serious.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
Well, let me ask you about the conversation that you
end up having. You said a couple of days after
he was of your mom's house. Tell me, like, where
y'all are when you have the conversation. The more details
of your mom's house. Ye, and what does what does
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he say at that.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Point, he says he didn't say her. He just said
I hit I swow the poolstick so hard it broken
twelve pieces. It is a two thousand dollars poolstick.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
No details of the crime have been released to the
public yet. Brian was telling them things that only the
killer could have known, like the broken pool queue, which
was later found under Kim's dead body.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
Did he say why he was over there first?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Did he?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:38):
He said he was over there to pick up.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
His son's PlayStation three and xbox and games and some
clothes for so.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
At one point, Lance had been married and he had
a young son from that relationship. Apparently, when he went
back to the Dorseys to collect his son's things, Kim
wasn't happy.
Speaker 18 (33:03):
He said that the lady was gonna call his boss
was at the fire station to her husband, and.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
I guess he took her cell phone. That was what
he said.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He said, I took her cell phone, and I told
her to get out of my way, that I just
wanted my stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
And told her to leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I just wanted my stuff, and pretty much he just
goes into I don't know whether.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
He hit her with that full stick, but he.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Kind of emphasized swinging the full stick okay, And then
he emphasized being shot at five times.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
And then he said that.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
He was waiting for the sixth shot because he knew
it was a revolver.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
But when he heard the window open, he thought the
lady was going.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Out through the window. He ran in there and beat.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Her with his hand and then stabbed her.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up.
The broken pool que, the five bullet holes in the wall,
and the blood on the window.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Why was she shooting at you? Where we're you know?
But I didn't really want to question him because I
didn't want.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
To stop him from telling me stuff, okay, like I'm
interrogating him with you, right so, and at the same time,
I didn't really believe him.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Let's let's go back to what he was telling you.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Though.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
He says that I guess she shoots in him, he
hits her and it stabs her. Where does he say
he stabbed her?
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I believe in the neck okay, up.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Facial neck area, so somewhere her neck or above yeah, okay?
Speaker 12 (35:04):
Does he say how many times.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
Okay, well he did so as I stabbed her.
Speaker 16 (35:10):
Okay, and then what does he say? Does he say
that she was dead or does he say.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
Anything about that?
Speaker 8 (35:19):
He said Delai was saying his stop, you're killing.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Brian's statement secured Lance as the killer, but still the
question of why remained. Why was Kim so angry when
Lance showed up at the house to get his things.
This was someone that Derek had told the cops would
take a bullet for Kim. Derek had nothing bad to
say about Lance, so why was Kim threatened when he
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showed up at her house. Brian had revealed the details
of the gruesome attack, and he was about to give
police a glimpse into the motive, and it didn't make
Derek look all that wholesome. Florida firefighter and general contractor
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Derek Dorsey had come home to find his upscale home
ransacked and his wife Kim brutally murdered. The couple's former employee,
Lance Kirkpatrick, had been seen driving a stolen car to
the Dorsey's house on the day of the murder, and
now his former boss, Brian Keefer, had told police that
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Lance admitted to the murder without Brian. The police didn't
have much. They had to keep him talking.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
And then what does he say happens next?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
He said he was just so out of it. He's
stayed there for two hours waiting on the police to
get there.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
And then he left and then went back there two
hours later because he realized he left his phone there,
and then he cleaned up around there.
Speaker 16 (37:20):
What do you say he did to clean up?
Speaker 8 (37:23):
He just said he clean up. He said he put
the phone in the trash, impacted her for trash.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Disposing, okay, But he did do something with her phone.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, No, he took her phone in the beginning, okay,
because he tried to call her husband.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
He tried to call her, she tried to call there.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was again when Lance showed up at the doors
He's house to get his son's things. He told Brian
that Kim got so upset she started threatening to call
Derek at work, but Derek had told police that Lance
was a good guy who would never do anything to Kim.
Then Brian revealed something sinister, and he.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Had said, her husband know she's on her, The husband
cheats on her.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
Yeah, he did tell you.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That, Yeah, And that him and the husband had sex
or some prostitute at a job about a week and
a half ago.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
And I said, well, then he probably doesn't.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Really care about her, and he was like, no, he
cares about her.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
And that's all that was said about that.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Derek had admitted to police that he had affairs, but
no one knew that he was having threesomes with prostitutes
and his employees. Maybe Kim had known about what Lance
and Derek had done. Maybe she was upset about it
when he showed up to their house. What the police
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did know from the evidence was that LJ showed up
on an ounce after a bender and demanded his son's things.
We can assume that Kim was frightened and threatened to
call Derek, which resulted in Lance attacking her. We don't
know how or why, but he did. The fight escalated
and Lance tied Kim to her bedside table with zip
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ties as he ran around the house. Kim managed to
get out her revolver and shoot five times. Then she
pulled free and tried to escape out the window. That's
when Lance entered the room again and killed her.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
In the beginning, I made a stupid comment, I was like,
was there any motive for you?
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Doing this. You know. I was trying to get a
reason why you would kill.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Somebody, you know, and he was like, no, there was
no motive at all. It was just the wrong person
in the wrong place at the wrong time, and they
got in a way of me getting my stuff from
my son, and I always regret it. I was getting
everything I could out of him because I'm not gonna
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sit there and let somebody get murdered. And even though
I thought it was a good person, I'm not gonna
just sit there and let somebody get murdered.
Speaker 12 (40:14):
Did you say he purposely did not take something.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Yes, he said he purposely didn't take anything so.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It wouldn't look like it was him there, you know,
like if he would have taken anything from his room,
it would have looked like it was him.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
So of course Jesus, he said.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
That, you know, they were gonna look at it like
it was devot that killed her or something, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Like Lance hung around the door Sea's house for hours
after he murdered Kim. He left and came back. He
watched that porn movie and he raped Kim. Then he
tried to wash the remote controls of his DNA. He
didn't think things through exactly. I mean, he was drunk
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and high when he did this. In fact, he was
out of his mind.
Speaker 16 (41:09):
I think earlier I stopped you when you were trying
to say that he was concerned about his DNA being there,
because he was.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He had punched holes in the wall like two days
previous in my place because Luther Hines kicked the door
to my house because he dis a whole nother story,
but he anyways, that's why he punched holes in the
wall and cuts on his.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
Okay, so he thought.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
The DNA from those cuts when he punched the lady's
face I guess was cut open. He thought that they
were going to piece it together and that's how they
were going to catch him.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Lance's DNA was eventually found all over the house. He
drank from bottles. He left cigarette butts on the carpet.
He didn't really try to clean up very much.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
Does l J smoke?
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
What does he smoke?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
When I met him, he smoke Morrez. Now he smokes
Marvelo Special Blind seventy two's. I spoke Marvel Ultralizes and
he pretty much says he hasn't had money. He's been
smoking my Marvelo Oldtralizes too, so as are his three brands.
He would be around.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Right after they spoke with Brian, Lance was picked up.
The police expected him to be silent, but he talked.
He started yapping. I guess he doesn't know the golden
rule we keep repeating here, don't talk to cops.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
When's the last time you were over at Derek's house?
I went over there a week ago, maybe a week
and a half ago, looking for h see what he
was if he gets the money from get all stuff
(43:00):
like that. But he wasn't home. Okay, who was there?
And I thought him was the promply outside? But you
know he answered the door. So did you think he
would think he wasn't even there? Where the keys to
be supposed to be a partner to the dog right there?
Speaker 8 (43:18):
What the dog were?
Speaker 6 (43:19):
There's a little dog, but my big dog by the door.
Speaker 15 (43:24):
Yeah, and you looked there and see if it wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Lance admitted to the police that he knew where Kim
and Derek kept their extra front door key under the
dog statue. Now, if you recall that particular statue was
kicked over during the murder, It was all starting to
come together.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Do you remember what day it was that he went
over there and did that. Yeah, it was Georgia floor,
Georgia floor, So it was.
Speaker 8 (43:54):
Georgia floor's right before the game on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna say for the game.
Speaker 19 (44:00):
So you went over there and he said, you're going
over to see there, you know, just carl former to
try to get some workout.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Time is some work is usually how it goes. And like, okay,
I can use the romatas league here, here's a gass. Okay,
that's not usually. What time did you go over here?
I think it was right.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Before the game was playing, around one and.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Two, four and two. That was, And that's Saturday, Florida, Georgia.
Did you watch the game?
Speaker 14 (44:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I watch the game. Where did you watch the game?
I watched the game at brian Mom's house.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
What is Lance's strategy here? Is he trying to admit
he went over there to account for his DNA and
been trying to set up an alibi by watching the
game at Brian's. This is seriously a unintelligent man.
Speaker 19 (44:46):
Now, when you went over there on Saturday, how did
you get over to Florida, Georgia?
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Friend of mine?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Okay, who's that.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
Her name?
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Last name, Melissa is her first name. Yeah, and up
in her little car? What kind of cars she had?
A little blue masud?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
My lord, the lies. Melissa's car is the one he stole,
just in case you forgot. Oh hey, Lance, what are
you doing?
Speaker 6 (45:17):
What if I told you I didn't believe on your story? Story?
Speaker 15 (45:21):
Well, only part of the story that you believe, the part.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
About how you got.
Speaker 15 (45:25):
Over the bars south on Saturday, Okay, with melissa truck.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Okay, how did they get over there? Well, I know
he's had Melissa's truck. Molislam wasn't in that truck.
Speaker 12 (45:42):
Well, j.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
We're avoiding the big question here.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
I've been asking the question since they got.
Speaker 14 (45:48):
Yeah, I know you have been.
Speaker 19 (45:50):
Okay, Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this
next step here.
Speaker 14 (45:55):
Okay, all right, I know you.
Speaker 19 (45:58):
Went inside the house last stuff our two centuries in Florida, Okay,
all right, And you're good friends with Derek, right, And
I know you're.
Speaker 15 (46:09):
Just talking to people, okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
You gotta remember I talked to a lot of people, okay,
And I spent.
Speaker 15 (46:16):
All freaking day to day talking to people, Okay, all right,
And people talk, okay, and people tell us things.
Speaker 14 (46:23):
Okay, all right, and.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I don't think you went inside the house. Okay, I've
been inside the house.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Well yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
When we talk to people, we talk to a lot
of people.
Speaker 19 (46:44):
We'll get a lot of information, all right, and then
we look at her its okay, yeah, do you know
how cellphone was?
Speaker 6 (46:55):
Basically, tell me how so phone is.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
This is when the cops had to explain to idiot
drug addict Lance that his phone is a tracking device
and it follows him wherever he goes, leaving a digital footprint.
It's amazing that people on Earth in twenty twenty four
still aren't aware of that. Must explain our current state
(47:21):
of political affairs. They also had to explain to this
drain on society that there was evidence at the scene,
like security camera footage, and that the evidence didn't really
look all that good for him.
Speaker 15 (47:38):
Everybody has a side of the story. We have to
afford you an opportunity for you to tell us your
side of the story. Okay, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
What story I don't. We'll get there.
Speaker 15 (47:50):
It's not costing a Listen, let me talk right, you
follow me, thank guys. Okay, when I say you're not
a monster. I know this because you talk for somebody
until what happened. Okay, we've spoken to him and he's
already close what you.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Said, and with that, Lance is pretty much done. He
stopped talking, but the detective still swabbed his cheeks to
confirm the DNA and arrested him for Kim's murder.
Speaker 20 (48:19):
Horton, thank you all for coming out on no busy
news day Sunday Out Timber twenty eighth, twenty twelve, thirty two,
the thirty six hundred block peast Berry Drive, thirty eight
year old Kim Marie Dorsey was found dead by her.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
Rescue husband.
Speaker 20 (48:38):
We actually received the information after that. Some of that
information that we received led us to a person who
we had some knowledge of, a person who had in
the past lived with the victim and her husband. That
person was thirty one year old Lance Eugene Kirkpatrick. With
that information, we actually found over the next days after
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he got that subject to us an associate of Kurson
Patricks who cooperated.
Speaker 8 (49:06):
With investigators with this case.
Speaker 20 (49:09):
The cooperation he provided was substantial and really broke our case.
Led us to make the arrest of Kirkpatrick.
Speaker 8 (49:19):
King Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Derek was beside himself when he found out that Lance
was the one that killed his wife.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I howled like.
Speaker 8 (49:28):
Some wounded animal. Kind of trial because of the betrayal.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
He held up photographs of Kim to the camera and
let the tears roll.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
This is the person he took away from me, her family,
and everyone else. Kim taught me so much.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I just wish I could have been a better person
for her. It took two years for Lance's family to
get to trial. He made it a living hell for
Kim and her family members, dragging out the proceedings with
lies and various tactics in order to attempt to save
himself from prison. In the end, it didn't work. He
faced a courtroom for the rape and murder of Kim Dorsey,
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and he was sentenced to three life terms for his heinous,
disgusting crime. Derek spoke directly at Lance during the sentencing.
The man he had once considered a buddy, so close
that they even had sex with the same prostitute at
the same time, was now going to jail for murdering
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his wife. And yes, I did say prostitute, not sex worker,
because no matter what your social media told you, fucking
ain't work.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
For two and a half years.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I've stood by and watched the defend and prolong the
proceedings with lies, besartching Kim's name, and even snitching on every.
Speaker 8 (50:46):
Person he knows in order to save his own skin.
Good luck with that reputation in prison, Hill Jada.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Derek attended grief counseling after Kim's death and began working
with a psychologist who would later become his new wife.
The two started a mental health practice together.
Speaker 21 (51:04):
And Derek Dorsey is now director of operations for a
local mental health care counseling facility, and he's also still
a firefighter, but has less than a year before retirement.
He says, above all, he wants to thank everyone involved
in his case, the prosecutors and the detectives.
Speaker 12 (51:20):
He said, they were all amazing.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Everyone in this tragic story was a different person than
they presented to the world. There's a lot of that
going around in twenty twenty four, especially after an election.
I might add Derek was a firefighter and a business
owner who had a beautiful house and a beautiful wife,
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just like David Byrne. Yet behind her back, he was
cheating on her with many women and even having sex
with prostitutes with his CD employees. Kim seemed like a happy,
successful businesswoman, but inside she was crumbling and fighting a
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terrible depression. Brian looked like a sketchy Floridian drug dealer
and a roofer, but he was the hero of this story.
He rescued men who were down and out, and when
one of them confessed to a murder, he immediately turned
him in. He actually had a conscience. Sometimes looks can
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be deceiving, and Lance well, Lance was a troubled, sad
man who may have been grateful for the help that
the Dorseas gave him, but he committed a brutal, disgusting
act towards Kim and will never truly understand why monsters
(52:47):
are real and could be anyone. Heroes are real too,
and they don't always come looking like you'd expect. That
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doesn't for yet another one. Thank you so much for
joining us once again, just to let you know. There
may be a few hurdles with our schedule in the
coming weeks, just life stuff, things that kind of take
my time away that cannot be helped unfortunately, and I
(54:09):
must be present for so apologies in advance. If we
don't put out a show here and there in the
coming weeks. It's not something I'm happy about or looking
forward to. I assure you
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