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And that's when he grabbed me really fast to yank
me back in there, and I got really startled and scared,
and so I screamed.
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and Scale. It was July of twenty twenty two. In
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a little place we like to talk about a lot
called Florida, this time Boca Raton, a place named after
the mouth of a rat on a suburban street where
crime was low and the tesla count was high, along
with a few vandals, I'm sure. A group of friends
in their mid twenties were standing outside a big, yellow
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stucco house in Larkspur Trail before sunrise. One of the
friends in the group was a woman who we will
refer to as Annie, and her girlfriend, who we will
call Kate, had been missing for over twelve hours. Annie
had this feeling that Kate was inside the yellow house,
and one of the things that clued her into that
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was the fact that her car was sitting in the driveway.
The night before, she had received some strange messages from
Kate's phone that did not sound like her. Maybe Kate
was at a hotel, like the text messages claim, but
that didn't seem right, and Annie wanted to be sure.
The friends had rallied around the house in Larksburg Trail
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while the cops did their due diligence, knocking on doors
and windows, announcing themselves to the property owners, but they
are met with silence by the looks of it, no
one was home. It was hard to tell what was
going on. The house on Larksburg was an unorthodox Jewish neighborhood,
and the day in question was Shabbat, which is the
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holy day of rest for the Jewish people. Shabbat starts
at sunset on Friday and ends twenty four hours later
at sunset on Saturday, and during this time Jewish people
are not allowed to use any forms of technology. Orthodox
Jews take Shabbat very seriously, and everyone in this neighborhood
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was on their day of rest like the good Lord.
The cops continued knocking and calling out property owners, but
no one responded without cause. They couldn't just break in.
I mean, do you want cops breaking into your house
without permission? So the police left, but Kate's friends did not.
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They were convinced that the police had made a big mistake,
so one of them called the Palm Beach County Sheriff's
office again.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
They were officers outside of the house of the missing person,
and they refused to go inside to retrieve her. So
I'm just trying to get reconnected with those officers as possible,
because they literally hung up on me when I asked
for their name in Bagunberg. If you can't reconnect me,
then I would like the officers who would get back
to that call, and I would like their name and
that's numbers.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Peep.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Okay, hold on just a second. I never spoke with Tea.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
So let me.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I can rely understand, and you know.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
What's The scene was tense and he had already reported
Kate missing to the police department near their home, which
was in another jurisdiction.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Okay, what's your name? Yes, irrelevant, ma'am. I just want
to know that the officer's name and back numbers. Tea,
the ones who are.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Dissed back for the called for that address.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes name, we were. We were the same ones who
both Okay, well what is your name?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Fucking verify that or I can't do any information, man, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I'm sorry, but but you don't need to ask me
a relevant questions. I'm asking for the officers who gets
back to that call, your public servant. I am a
part of the public, and I'm asking your question. I
needed to answer the police.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I'm not answering any questions related to that address because
I can't verify or know if you're the one of
people called.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The dispatch operator had a point, but so did the caller,
and things only escalated from there, as they tend to
do when one party is emotionally charged.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Like I just said, we have a missing person who's
sitting in front of that house, the house with a
mentally o patient. But if you want my name, my
name is John Doe. Now please tell me the officers
who are dispatched to two two one four seven lakes
per trail and and and don't ask me another books
that about this.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Okay, I can't take any information because I don't show
that name listed on a personal calls.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Oh so so if I called them to start six
seven and we got got that on file, right, come on, man,
let's not play this game. I I don't do this.
Like he's like, there's a missing person right here. This
is our friend, which is our loved one.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Okay, no one here.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
No you're not, No, you're not. You're playing what's a
game with me? Don't play the game with me? To
one four seven lakes for trail which officers were disbacked
to that call?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Are you're at that location right now?
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I am so with officers with God, I think officers
that are unstane.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
If you're there, but the police had left. However, this
caller was too heated to relay that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Man, are you gonna hang up on me?
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Book?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Are you you're?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Is there anything else that can help you with I'm
not giving you absolutely there is way you can contact.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
The records and Dad's numbers.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
You can contact the record's povision or normal business hours
to get that information. I'm not gonna give you.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Man man, man, man man man man No no no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no no, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on No ma'am you what are you doing right now?
You're actually like, like I'm not calling like with with
emotion and care right now because I care for one
of my friends. You're acting like I'm another fucking random
robot in the world, Like can you please help me
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right now? I'm like, all right, well to help meeting,
and we are trying to help her and the officers
outside of her house who refuse to go in there
and literally save her from mentally ill person come up
on me. So can you please count me?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Why not just say your name if it's the emergency
you say it is, I mean say your name right.
The dispatch operator told the caller that she would contact
an officer and have them call them back. That was
all she could do from the nine one one line.
I mean, you can't just call up nine to one
one and start obtaining personal information about prior calls. There
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are rules and procedures for a reason, to protect the public.
That's when a calmer friend took over the phone and
gave his number to the operator. Then they waited as
intense as it was. That nine one one exchange worked
because more officers were soon sent back to the scene.
This time they heard something that made them second guess.
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If Annie and her friends had been right.
Speaker 10 (08:52):
We would dispatch to this location approximately six forty five
this morning, sometime roughly and in a reference to assisting
Lantana Peed in recovering a missing persons from their jurisdiction.
I arrived here with my trainee deputy parent. We arrived
here and met with the complainant who filed the original
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missing person's.
Speaker 11 (09:13):
Report with Lantana Police Department. I cannot recall her name
right now. She told us that she believes her girlfriend
is inside that house, and she did record her in fact,
with Lantana Police Department last night, asked her how does
she know she's in there?
Speaker 10 (09:33):
She goes, well, her car is here.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
Originally we're trying to gather as much information as we can.
Speaker 12 (09:39):
Kind of things were not really that clear, but it
became clear later on when other deputies have arrived that
she is a therapist and she came here to meet
a client.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Kay was a social worker who had been sent to
the Yellow House on Larksburg by her boss to check
on a client. Soon and the officers found themselves walking
around the perimeter of the house, knocking on doors and windows.
Speaker 10 (10:02):
Repeatedly, bang bang, bang, bang bang, got no answer. We
didn't notice that the window to the door was obscured
with something. We didn't know that was all right. We
had that conversation, but anyhow, we went the front door,
the front because we're trying to look in the glass
see if we can see anything in the house. That
the obvious front windows had the lines closed. We continued
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around the outside of the house see if we didn't again,
see if we could see anything. Lmity people inside the house.
As we're going around the house. We're at the rear
of the house now on the pull deck. There is
a big sliding glass it's a double sliding glass door.
We kind of pulled on that, hey, you know, try
to see if it's open. And when we were out
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the door, I don't know where at the moment we
pulled it or let go of whatever, we heard a
various loud scream female clearly from inside the house, and
that's all we heard. And we confirmedly changed, Hey, did
you get it? I heard that out here that came
back to the front of the house, the completing from
who filed the missing personal report. But did you hear that?
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She goes, I heard that? Did you guys hear that?
So she heard the stream also from the inside the house,
kind of confirming. We all heard something from the eastside house.
It was before we came around in the front of the house.
Speaker 11 (11:17):
My training got on the radio and made an announcement
that we heard the screen come from inside the house.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Upon hearing the scream, the officers immediately called their sergeant,
who drove to the scene as any and her friends
huddled on the sidewalk watching. The officers briefed one another,
see tell me all.
Speaker 13 (11:36):
The details they have, and then they say, we've looked
at all of the those we can't see the windows.
There's a section where they could see what you couldn't
see it. Again, I think it was a hallway or something.
We're looking for the phone and I heard all that.
I said, all right, we're talking about the scream again.
So we're trying to hash out it's just a healthy scream.
Because now we have more information that there was something
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about a twenty two were I don't think we had that.
Speaker 14 (12:02):
This was a piece. I don't remember what.
Speaker 13 (12:04):
The timeframe was, but I don't think we had that
right away because I think that's what we were trying
to figure out, is it's the parents where.
Speaker 14 (12:10):
They and there's two kids that live in the house.
It's a twenty six year old team now twenty two
year old man. So we had that.
Speaker 13 (12:16):
So the conversation we're having where we're staying on the
front door is it's this ain't fault final or is
this an affair?
Speaker 14 (12:23):
She got caught and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That Hours passed and more details began to unravel as
the day broke. Kate was a twenty six year old
social worker and the client she had gone to meet
was a twenty year old man who lived on the
house at Larkspur. But the cop was right. There were
many ways this could play out, and one of them
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could have been an affair. So something about this still
wasn't right, and there was another option.
Speaker 13 (12:55):
It's a call from Okay, you can write that ship up.
I said, We'll fucking kick the god damnd you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The officer who originally heard the scream confirmed that it
sounded off, so the sergeant called his lieutenant and the
two decided to have fire and rescue come break the door.
That way, if it did turn out to be a
false alarm, the homeowners would be left with minimal damage.
Speaker 13 (13:18):
And then we start getting more details, and one of
the details was that the doctor who is caring for
this kid, so now we know it's the kid is
the patient.
Speaker 14 (13:29):
A twenty two year old is the patient.
Speaker 13 (13:31):
The doctor who's caring for the kid sent her here
on a sign it at six pm last night, and
I don't know if it was him with the girlfriend.
Somebody told us they got a text message saying I
made contact. I think it was a doctor. I made contact.
I'm he let me in the house. So now we
have that information.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
After realizing that Kate was potentially inside the house with
a mentally ill patient. The cops knew they had to
get in immediately getting fire.
Speaker 14 (14:01):
Recupe've got the lot's what it wasn't doing, So that's
what we're playing for.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Lt.
Speaker 13 (14:05):
Cohen shows up. So at this point we're pinging the phone.
So now we're kind of doing like the extra like
hold on, let's just make sure this isn't some twenty
six ye old that ran off of a twenty two
year old.
Speaker 14 (14:15):
So we're pinging phones. We'll get trying to get everbodys
number this old time.
Speaker 13 (14:18):
You know, hey, you a deputy is being tasked with
get the parents on the phone. We can't get the parents.
We know the neighbor's host, the parents are out of
town and it's.
Speaker 15 (14:28):
I don't know what holiday, but what Saturday is to
the Jews religion, but something about on Saturday they can't
use phones, so we knew that they don't usually try
to send our use phones.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Okay, remember that it was Saturday of Shabbat, so the
all swings weren't permitted to use technology, so no one
could reach them on their cell phones.
Speaker 14 (14:48):
And while we're paying the phone can that's on the way.
Speaker 13 (14:51):
Drones on the way we get this match, says or
telephone number came at seven am.
Speaker 14 (14:59):
In Deerfield, so that kind of put the brakes in
this switch. I'm just mad at waited.
Speaker 13 (15:08):
And it's nobody's follows just checking bus.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So they waited. They followed the protocol, like the sergeant said,
checking all the fucking boxes. But time was ticking and
Kate was potentially inside the house. No one had heard
a peep from inside since the first scream. Then they
received information that the cell phone ping was off. Finally
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it was time to go in.
Speaker 13 (15:39):
So once everybody gets into the house and iby, I
don't even know how many people win because it ended
up beating everybody once they get into the house. Myself
and sergeant of yours go into the house, so stick
teams in front of us. So you went in, yes,
And now I'm in the front door.
Speaker 14 (15:57):
There was a room to the right. I did not
go into it at this point.
Speaker 13 (16:00):
I had my gun out and we're kind of clearing
behind them, opening closet doors that they're making their way through.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The officers began thundering through the quiet house, opening closets
and checking rooms with their weapons drawn and their shields ready.
Speaker 13 (16:15):
And then I started making my way to the other
side of the house, and they start saying, hey, we
got a locked door.
Speaker 14 (16:20):
We got a locked door.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
At the back of the house, off a bedroom, the
cops found a locked door and knew the scream had
to have come from inside. A female officer opened the
door and was stunned at what she saw hiding in
the back of the closet.
Speaker 16 (16:39):
At first, I was like, okay, you kind of do
that like glance, like, oh, it's clear nothing in here
that I'm like, no, no, no, assessing, No, there's people in here.
I now see a man and a female at when
I saw them, I'm now trying to figure out what
I got. At first, it looked like he just was
like choking her out.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
At the back of the closet was Sea all swaying
the twenty year old patient, and he had Kate in
his grasp. See what a name. I guess his parents
didn't like vowels.
Speaker 17 (17:10):
So they're they're now talking to me, what do you got?
What do you got? What do you got?
Speaker 16 (17:13):
I'm trying to access processing. I'm like, okay, I see
he's he's got her, you know, And then I'm like, okay,
now I'm seeing the knife. I'm like, the knife, it's
got a knife. At this point, as I'm talking, the
garret slides in. Where was shiny.
Speaker 17 (17:29):
Adilition to her body?
Speaker 18 (17:31):
Neck?
Speaker 17 (17:31):
Got it at her neck? What was she doing?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Did she say no?
Speaker 17 (17:35):
She was dead silent. She was staring at me like scared.
Speaker 14 (17:39):
Did he say anything?
Speaker 17 (17:41):
No, He's just there, not moving.
Speaker 13 (17:44):
She has her hands up like chest maybe like even
in her throat by kind of doing this and like
thumbes her against her throat, and the knife was either
all the thumb or right above it.
Speaker 14 (17:58):
It was right there. And Will starts giving him commands.
Speaker 17 (18:01):
You don't want to do this, you don't have to
do this. You know, there's a better way.
Speaker 18 (18:04):
He's talking, dropped night, dropped night.
Speaker 14 (18:06):
Than he starts speaking me, Hey, my mom. Man just
talked to me. Just talked to me, just talked to me.
Speaker 13 (18:10):
And and literally as I'm behind him, see the knight
to meet And I'm thinking this myself.
Speaker 19 (18:16):
I shouldn't know.
Speaker 14 (18:17):
I'm thinking this myself. I'm like, yeah, and shocked. Okay,
shot the guy in the head. He dropped he go in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It all happened in the flash. The shot rang out
one hundred times as loud in that tiny closet. It
hit z and he dropped to the ground. Kate was free.
Speaker 17 (18:41):
She was grabbed taken out of the room. A couple
of deputies took her out of the out of the house.
People moved in.
Speaker 20 (18:49):
I can't cuff the subject. At that time, he starts speaking.
I can't tell you what he was saying. It's not
because I don't know. I just don't remember. And it
wasn't like it was gurgling ezactly, communicating words. Who're saying something?
Then he starts hitting the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
An officer grabbed a towel and pressed it on Zi's
gunshot wound as they handcuffed him to the gurney and
wheeled him out of his parents one point five million
dollar bungalow outside. Kate's friends rejoiced, but now it was
time to take her to the hospital and find out
exactly what happened. On Larkspur Trail, Palm Beach County sheriffs
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had spent the early morning hours in a swat style
takedown at a home in a Jewish Orthodox neighborhood in
Boca Raton. A missing twenty six year old social worker
had been trapped inside with her twenty two year old client,
z all Swang, for the last fifteen hours or so.
The social worker's girlfriend, Annie, had reported her missing the
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evening before, but it took until the next morning to
find Kate and get into the all Swang's house. When
they did, the police found Kate trapped in a closet
being held at knife point by z When he refused
to comply, an officer shot him and saved Kate's life.
It was an incredible and terrifying scene. Now, Kate was
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in the hospital recovering from the kidnapping and was ready
to tell police what happened to her inside that house.
Kate's identity had been protected, and since we want to
honor that, the details of her exact employment status will
remain confidential. Despite what you might have heard on certain
form where people who spend all of their time online
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hang out, we do not doc's victims, and if we
do make a mistake, we typically correct it within twenty
four hours. Anyway, back to the story, you just need
to know that she was finishing up per degree to
become a counselor, and she worked for a mental health practice.
Of all things that had z Allswang as a client.
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She was tasked to help him find employment and to
help him figure out how to exist in the adult world,
because obviously he was having trouble doing it. Z wasn't
a normal twenty two year old. Despite his privileged upbringing
in resources, he was floundering. Kate had a big morning
at work and the last client of the day was Z.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Everything was kind of smooth sailing, went through and saw
the rest of the clients for the day, and then I.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Had c scheduled for originally four or five point thirty,
so he pushed it back to six pm. He didn't
have a particular reason, but I was willing to be
flexible because it's been a challenging start for him.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
To accept Therapy NEX services. And this is something that's
not uncommon, especially in case management, to have to be
clients that might be really stuck in life but really
struggling to need the additional support in order to get
them on track and everything.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Kate drove up to Z's parents' house, like she had
done for the last month she'd been working with them.
She met with Z there and they would have their
session in the den while his parents stayed in the
living room. Kate only had about four or five sessions
with him, so she didn't know them all that well
just yet. But what she did know was that he
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was socially off.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I guess what I would say that would be unusual
with Sphe was that he was a little off at times,
meaning that Speed was not fully able to be presenting
conversation and engage. And this was something that Dad was
particularly concerned about in terms of there being any.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Cognitive deficits that might be present along with the clinical team.
In addition to that, Dad would always make remarks to Courtney.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Who was his primary who is his primary therapist, and
I was the case manager on the case, would mention
to Courtney that Stee's dad was very scared of Speed
and wouldn't necessarily give any context to it. Then I
started speaking with Dad a little bit more often because
he's a very you know, overprotective and involved parent in
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SPI's life. And he had disclosed that Speed had a
history of sexual assault as in mine where he was
convicted and the case was ultimately sealed and he resolved
in the.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Sense that he did his service.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
He is community service that he did is you know,
time he went to court mandated counseling, and the therapist
at that time had given him a clear bill of health. Spee, however,
had never opened up about that side of his history,
even when directly asked.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
So.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Z had a history of assault on his record, but
it was sealed, and obviously no one thought it was
too big of a deal to deny him home visits.
Kate waited at the front door for someone to answer.
Z swung it open and let her inside the cool,
air conditioned Florida home.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
So you know, I go in with him, and right
off the bat, he's a little bit more talkative than
he normally is.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He's a little bit more engaged. He's asking a lot more.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
SPE's asking a lot more questions about me to get
to know me. And I had looked at it from
a perspective of okay, you can focus on report building.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Kate was a little surprised by Z's new attitude, but
saw it as positive. Then they sat down for their
usual meeting.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
While we were.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Meeting for a regular case management discussion, which was record building,
job discussion.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
And a little bit more about and getting to know
each other.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Speed had gotten up at times, either citing that that
spe needed to go to the bathroom that Spain needed
to go get some water, and I didn't think anything
of it at the time. So then when I got
up to leave when our time was over, he kept
trying to persuade me to stay and saying that he
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wanted me to help him with more things.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Kate kept it profect and told him that she had
to go. They could schedule another time to meet next week.
As she walked towards the door, she noticed that all
the blinds in the house had been shut. In that moment,
her stomach flipped. She picked up her pace towards the
front door and realized that it had now been covered
with black plastic and duct tape.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And as I was about to get to the door,
watching Ever made it too He p It's arms around me,
put his body weight on me. He was squeezingly really tight,
and IT kept saying what are you doing? And he
was trying to kiss my neck. He's trying to overpower me,
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and he started dragging me back into the living room
and was at that point I was resisting and he
didn't like that, so he he started grabbing my hands.
I think this was his really tightly and I have
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you know his handworks, and I tried to struggle and
break free multiple times, to which was met with his
first round of beating me, which included punches in the face,
being made in the gut, just to get me to
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calm down and be compliant.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Kate fought as hard as she could, but Z was strong, tall,
and overpowered her.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I bit his hand at one point, you know, I
tried to kick him up and scrolled him. I tried
everything I could and let me know that there wasn't
anything I can do, and that he was he was
much stronger than me. Well, there was this struggle going on,
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and he was trying putting his bodyweed on me and
trying to subdue me and trying to and hurting me.
He kept wanting me to sit on his lap, and
at this point he had obviously we had a hard penis,
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and he kept wanting me to sit on his lap,
pulling me on his lap.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It was so quiet in the house, just the sound
of the air conditioner humming and Z's grunts and struggles
as he yanked Kate back. Every time she tried to
get away, he would squeeze her towards his body and
smack her anytime she fought. So Kate dug into her
social worker toolkit and tried another approach.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So that's when I switched to the record building. You know,
he just to try to talk to him, get to
know more, figure out what you know es. Game plan
is here, And then I moved next to him. Would
he let me do while he was many rose, he
was really really angry at me, and he seemed really
odd at this point to a place where spe was sounding,
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you know, collusional. He was unable to listen to any lodge,
He was unable to listen to any reason. He couldn't
comprehend or try to see my perspective or engage in
a rational discussion. And he said that the reason he
was so angry at me and was doing all of
this was because at our previous meeting he had told
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me by accident that he had applied to a job
in Pennsylvania. So I reported to Dad that he had
applied to a job in Pennsylvania, and Ben Spee had
corrected himself and said, oh, never mind, it wasn't a
job in Pennsylvania. And I had not followed up with
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Spear's dad about that, but Spear's dad confronted feet about businesscommunication,
about the location of jobs he was applying to, and
he thought that I was doing that to make him
look bad, to steal his family's money, and to ultimately
try to make speed need to spend more time with me.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
He held Kate's wrists tightly like a human handcuff, and
he explained all this to her. She was terrified, and
she started pleading.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know, if you need to, you can, you know,
look at the text messages if that's what you want,
you know, but that would require you to give me
my phone. Oh, at this it's okay.
Speaker 19 (30:40):
You are doing good.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
At this point had taken my phone, and that was
what much of the struggle ensued on was when he
originally was first dragging me into the room, he was
very methodical in wanting to take my bag and got
away from me. And that's where and he started calling
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me a dumb bitch and telling me that I'm, like,
you know, just a hole that wants money, and asking
me how much I make and asking me, you know
what I'd like to do with that money. You know,
at that point, I just I really focused on a
very calm and collective tone, saying Steet like what you're looking.
Speaker 19 (31:25):
Out that.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Is, and he like couldn't hear any of that, so
that was his reasoning. He was mad that Kate had
reported something he felt was incorrect to his father. That's
how sick and delusional this kid was. Kate kept trying
to talk to him, but it wasn't working.
Speaker 21 (31:48):
He went to go grab ductee and bonded me with
my hands like this behind my back, and he put
a lot on you, you know, telling me that he
didn't want me to be able to get loose, and
that he knows all the tricks I could pull, and
that he thought this through.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And at that point I was like, I'm gonna be
in this for a while. And then after that, while
I was bound, he got my phone and I was
trying to convince me to give him give him my
phone password, and I didn't want to give him my
phone password, so you know, I lied or tried to
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give him the wrong ones and try to have him,
you know, type in the wrong ones enough time so
that it would disable my phone. And and he told me,
you knew my tricks, you knew what I was doing,
and that's when he started.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
To beat me again.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Z beat Kate again until she was face down on
the floor. Still want to be a social worker? Yeah,
I'm talking to you.
Speaker 22 (32:56):
And when he had me overpowered on the floor, he's
were on the floor and he put my head into
the couch. He put his hand on the back of
my head and he said, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
What would happen if I smashed this redear?
Speaker 22 (33:12):
You know, you would be dead.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Throughout this process, throughout the struggle, he is trying to
grope me. He is rubbing me over my pants, on
my vagina, he's grabbing my ass. All of this is
mixed into the struggle, so I knew at some point.
Speaker 14 (33:32):
That that was most likely coming.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
He was really well planned at times, and other times
it just seems like he didn't know what was going on,
or he wasn't totally there, or things just weren't connecting
or adding up. It was really strange and scary because
it was so volatile and unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Part of his plan was to make sure that no
one could reach Kate.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
He wanted to wrap our phones in tinfoil and put
them on airplane mode. I noticed on his phone he
was using this VPN. He was saying, you know, strange
things about how his location could be tracked or pained.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
He was talking about, you know, odd things related to people.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Watching him and being able to see him and hear him, like,
for example, like he did let me go to the
bathroom if he took me in there.
Speaker 14 (34:23):
And watched me, but he wouldn't let me flush.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The toilet because that would make too much noise, and
he would cover my mouth if I started to speak
any louder than a whisper.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Back at Kate and Nanny's house, And he was beginning
to become worried when Kate never came home supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Home by like six thirty, when he was seven thirty.
That's when I texted her where are you? And the
message didn't go through. It went straight to like the
green text bubble, so that I was sending up just
like question marks.
Speaker 18 (34:53):
And then I was like are you good? Hello, I'm concerned.
And then I'm like what the fuck? Hello? Are you okay?
Where are you? Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
And then I was like, I'm going to have to
call her boss. And then I was like hello, please,
are you okay? And then then randomly it turned back
to blue, like her phone went back on, And then
I got the text message quote, oh my god, I
got pulled over on my way.
Speaker 18 (35:18):
Cop thought I was drunk, taking me to station. I'm
going to take blood tests there because the cop is
a dick. Love you see you later.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
And what time was that at?
Speaker 18 (35:27):
That was at nine thirteen.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
At that point he took me over into the drink
closest to the front door. And that was the first
time you forced me to have sex with him. I
convinced him, convinced him to wear condom, thank god, tried
to tell me his pull out kay was strong. And
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then he put me on the bed and he put
the condom on, and like I was dry, like it hurt,
and I told him that I was like this is uncomfortable,
Like I don't like this, this doesn't feel right, you know,
like I'm not into it right now. And he like
was fixated on me, calling him daddy and putting it
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in him anyway and putting it in me anyway, which
he did. As I was lying down, he was barely
over me with his full body weight on top of me,
and I remember just thinking what his sisters gonna be over?
When is he gonna finish? Because this isn't gonna stump
until he's done.
Speaker 14 (36:31):
But so it did.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
At this point, he was tired and he wanted me
to go to sleep, and I told him I was
not gonna go to sleep, that I was too scared,
that was too anxious, that you know, I'm not hungry.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
He offered to give me like melotonin and like sleeping mets,
and I told him I don't want any of that.
I said, like, I can't sleep, Like.
Speaker 14 (36:52):
What are you gonna let me go?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And this was something that I get reitering the whole time.
Speaker 14 (36:59):
When is he gonna let me go?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
After he raped her, Zee decided to follow up with
Annie on Kate's phone, So.
Speaker 18 (37:07):
Then I'm saying, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Only three messages got delivered, and then the phone was
turned back off.
Speaker 18 (37:14):
And then nothing. I just was like blowing up her
phone trying to see if anything got sent.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Okay, And then I got a text message at twelve
twenty eight am.
Speaker 18 (37:24):
Hey, sorry I never got back to you. I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
They got me a hotel room for all the shit
they put me through. I'm still kind of shook. I'm
staying here tonight. I'll see you tomorrow. I'm going to
sleep now good night, which just did not sound like her.
Speaker 18 (37:38):
That's not how she normally a tached not how she
usually texts. In five and a half years, we've had
three nights apart because we were on vacation. And also
a cop.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Like, the whole thing about going up for a blood
tests sounded sketchy to begin with, because she was she
was coming from a client, you know, like and she
she did have one drink with someone and she was
pulled over and she refused a breathalyzer, like it just
didn't make any sense to me. And then when she
said that the cops got her a hotel room for
all the trouble she.
Speaker 18 (38:06):
Caused, that was a major red flag. And I immediately
called the police.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Bag and then that's night, because before then I was
calling just to see if she had been arrested for
drinking and driving or if anyone had got brond in
for like a field sobriety test or something like that.
Speaker 17 (38:19):
If you called nine to one one or what number
did you call her the police?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I was calling the Boyton Police Department. I called the
Delay Department. I called the BOCA. I called the county office.
Speaker 18 (38:30):
Okay, and the Sheriff's office, and no one had any
records of her.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Ze thought that his pathetic messages to Annie would keep
her at bay, but Kate also did something smart. She
never let Ze know that Annie was her girlfriend. She
told him that Annie was her roommate, which probably helped
him underestimate how hard Annie would be looking for her.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I told him I wasn't going to go to sleep
when we were back in the living room couch at
this point, and he was ready for a round. Two
was sex, and I told him that I was still
sore and in pain, and that I wasn't in the moon.
And then he said again, if you ever want to
get out of here, if you want to be able
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to lead, then we're going to need to figure out something.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
That works for us.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
This guy is such an unbelievable monster. Listening to this
poor woman recount what undoubtedly is the most terrifying experience
of her life is heart wrenching. This young man deserves
to be locked away for the rest of his life,
regardless of any mental health issues he might have, because
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it ain't an excuse. If you act like an animal,
you belong in a cage.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
And the same thing happened again, except this time he
couldn't get it inside of me because I was just
too dry, and I was just wailing in pain.
Speaker 18 (39:58):
It's stild him.
Speaker 22 (39:58):
I didn't want it.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
And then he said I need to suck him off.
So I stepped him off, you know, with his hands there,
and and then he came all over me and my
hair and my fidies and my hips on my.
Speaker 19 (40:18):
Sports.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
But I have it on here right now. And at
this point he wanted me to change into his clothes
or shower, and I told him that I was okay,
that I wanted to stand these clothes. And then I
really started after that to plead with him more about
when he was gonna let me go.
Speaker 20 (40:40):
You know what, it's.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Hard for me to necessarily sequence because it comes in
fun classes. At some point within the beginning part of it, though.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
He had tried to use the heavy duty sex toy
that he had on me to try to.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
And I told him, and I told him, you know
that it hurt because.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
He didn't didn't know well, Kate was trapped in hell,
and he had rallied some support and was not giving
up on finding her girlfriend.
Speaker 18 (41:20):
Her boss.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
He's also like the rest of this community Orthodox Jewish,
so he does not use electronics, so all night I
knew that like she was with her clients, so I
was trying to get in contact with him to just
find out like if and he heard anything that there
was an issue with boss client the boss okay, but
he was not answering the phone because he doesn't use
electronics during trabat.
Speaker 18 (41:42):
So but I didn't really care at that point, so
I was.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Just continuously flowing up his phone and he finally called
me back at three am, and I explained the situation.
I was like, I need the address of the of
the last client she was going to see, and he
gave it to me, and that's this house. And then
I called back the Lantana Police department because at that
point I had already filed a missing person's report, right,
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so you did speak to Lantana, okay, Yeah, when her
mom called Plantana, the police then came to my house,
like my apartment, and we discussed everything. They went down
and checked all the files to make sure she wasn't
in any systems anywhere, and then came back up and
then gave me the option to make a police a
missing persons report.
Speaker 18 (42:27):
So that's what I did and what time was that
at could they comment, Probably around like one am, one thirty.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
So at that point he started to express how he's
had like a history of suicide. And then he's not
planning on letting me go. And I kept, at this
point trying to get him to turn on his phone
just to maybe like see if you know, if anyone's called,
or there's someone he could talk to, like figure out
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another way out of this, like that it doesn't have
to escalate this whole big thing. And then he said
he's fucked.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
And then he saw.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
And at that point he didn't have any hope anymore,
and he.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Wanted to take us down together, and he was frustrated.
She checked with every police station and filed a missing
person's report. There was nothing left to do except go
to Kate's last known address herself and knock on the door.
So Annie, along with some friends, drove over to Z's
house and Larksburg Trail at four a m. And took
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matters into her own hands.
Speaker 17 (43:31):
And what did you see or hear when you got here?
Speaker 18 (43:33):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I saw her car in the driveway, and I was
just being on the door and like walking around the house,
and my friend stopped me from using a rock to
try to crack the window.
Speaker 18 (43:45):
Even I probably wouldn't have done anything.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Kate could hear the knocks and doorbell rings from inside
the house, but z had grabbed a large butcher knife
from the kitchen and told her that if she made
a sound he'd kill her. Outside Annie was calling Kate's
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name and waiting. Of course, they couldn't break in, so
they tried to talk to some neighbors.
Speaker 18 (44:41):
Six o'clock. I knocked on the neighbor's door, just because
I had noticed that he had a.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Ring camera, so I just wanted to know if, like,
because it's facing the street, so you would have saw
her car drive past that house. So it's like, Okay,
we know she came here, but did she ever leave
so with the client like how they were supposed to
or did she only ever like here?
Speaker 18 (45:00):
And he told me it was Shabbat and he cannot
help me.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I know religion is important to some people, but can
you imagine if that was your loved one inside. As
the knocks grew more frequent and police arrived on scene,
Zebe began to freak out and dragged Kate into his
parents closet, and that's when she let out that fateful scream.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
But that was the one time and they kind of
gave confirmation that it's like high up here because I
screamed when he was taking me from the main part
of the house with like the living room, Mary in
the bedrooms we had been in over to his parents'
bedroom and closet.
Speaker 9 (45:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
At that point, the cups were around, and he was
starting to get rid of he himself was getting really scared.
At one point he asked me to feel his heartbeat,
but he was also getting weirdly turned on, and he
kept asking, even fucking the closet, and I kept telling him, no, no, no,
I gonna loved this anymore. And I still had to
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cuddle him, you know, with his heart beats up against me,
and every time I tried to move away while we
were laying on the floor in the closet, he would
pull me back.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Man, this Kate was being held in the closet with
z trying to rape her again while the cops surveyed
the perimeter of the house and he waited with her
friends outside and talked with the officers. She was getting
fed up.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I waited here and then they got when they got
back here. Two of them showed up and I explained
the situation, and they did their little walk around, and
then they were in the back and they came up
and me and all my friends heard it. We all
heard a scream and they came in and he said,
you guys heard that too, and we said yes. And
then it still took three hours for them to get
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inside that house.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
So many things went wrong during those hours while the
police figured out if they could get inside, Like the
sergeant at the top of the episode said, just check
in all the fucking boxes. But while they were handling protocol,
Kate was stuck in a closet being held at knife
point by a deranged twenty year old who had repeatedly
raped her for the last fifteen hours. I mean, fuck protocol.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
They laughed, and they told me my friends to go
get breakfast while we were sitting out here begging them
to go inside. And then when I did get them
briefly for the two seconds, she was telling me that
the only thing that kept.
Speaker 18 (47:28):
Her going was hearing me yell at the cops outside
to do something.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
So I just don't understand how this can be the
correct way to handle this situation. To have your deputies
be telling us that we should be going for breakfast
and brunch when this was happening, and chit chatting with
the neighbors who were outside drinking their coffee, watching us
have mental breakdowns on the road because no one's doing anything.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
How could anyone have known what was happening inside that house?
The cops had to play it safe to avoid being liable,
and and he was emotional and frantic. Her got firmly
telling her that her girlfriend was in trouble and was
behind those doors. But finally they got in, and eventually.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
As more and more knocks started to come more frequently,
and he eventually heard the drill of the door or
the saw of the door that was going to be
knocked down. He wouldn't give me any answers, but he
just told me. He was like, and you do exactly
what I say, you know, and telling me that I
can't say a word, and that I say a word,
that I could have been dead. So he holds me
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up in the closet behind me, with me in front
of him, and he pulls out the knife and he
has it up to my neck and then he says,
wait a minute, and then he is going through his
mom's clothing and he picks out address of hers and
asked me to hold it up and hold it. And
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I tried to put the hook of it, you know,
over my neck, so that he couldn't.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
You couldn't.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
We picked up on that knee, lowered my hand and
he held with his hand his arm down and put
the knife up to my throat and waited for the
comps to come. And he had been saying how hold
bless he was, And at this point it was shaking
and crying and just saying, please let me go. It
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doesn't have to be this way. We could do something else,
like please, I'm scaredly, Please don't hold the knife up
to my throat.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
That's when the female officer broke in the locked door
and found Kate and z huddled at the back of
the closet, the long silver blade held tightly against her neck.
Then all the police swarmed in.
Speaker 23 (49:43):
Within a matter of seconds, a gunshot went off, and
I heard it in this ear, and then a ringing
came on and I couldn't look back, and I was
shuffled out of there.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Ze Allswang was shot in the front of the head.
The bullet hit him right above his left eyebrow. It's
not like it is in the movies. If you give
them an opportunity, they will shoot you dead if you're
threatening someone with a knife. This one was a near bullseye,
And the most shocking thing of all was he survived.
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The twenty year old rapist and kidnapper would have to
face what he did. On that horrible Shabbat Saturday, Z
showed up in court in a wheelchair with a plastic
beige helmet on his head. He was charged with first
degree attempted murder, kidnapping, and several sexual battery charges. No
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one and his family attended his court appearances or spoke
to the media on his behalf. Remember how Kate mentioned
that Z had a previous sexual assault charge that had
been sealed. It was also for rape, and he served
not a minute of jail time because the victim's family
did not press charges. He was let out back into
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the free world a rapist. Can you believe that?
Speaker 19 (51:05):
Now?
Speaker 9 (51:05):
These are the court papers right here that detail a
fifteen year old girl's accusation that cev Afswang raped her.
All Swang was sixteen at the time, and the victim's
attorney told me tonight. Because of all Swang's age and
his lack of criminal history, they decided to give him
a break. It's a decision they'd all now like to
have back.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Even Z's first victim's lawyer regretted underestimating how dangerous this
man really was.
Speaker 8 (51:32):
So because of his young age and the fact he
had never been arrested before, Roderman and the prosecutor agreed
to ask the judge to go easy on all Swang.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
That we would agree to probation with the special conditions
that he undergo an evaluation and any kind of follow
up treatment.
Speaker 8 (51:47):
The judge agreed, and Roderman says even the victim's family
was on board with all Swang only getting probation.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Z had planned Kate's attack out carefully. The police were
able to obtain video footage of him buying plastic bags
and other supplies from Party City, of all places before
the kidnapping. And check this out. This is the part
that should sound some alarm bells and teach you a
little bit of a lesson about how the world works.
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Z all Swang. This rapist chose Shabbat, a religious holiday,
because he knew that no one in the neighborhood would
be using their cell phones, ring cameras, or any other
electronic device. Shabbat meant the Jewish world was turned off,
so even Z's parents would be out of communication and
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out of town. That bought him a lot of time,
a lot of leeway, and he knew it. Even Kate's
boss was an Orthodox Jew. Z knew this too. His
sick plan would only work on this quiet Holy day.
What a sick fuck. Remember, Z was angry with Kate
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for relaying the wrong information to his father about a
job application. Like that was a justifiable reason for anything.
In his twisted minds, he thought that this was the
perfect excuse to kidnap, rape, and torture the woman who
was assigned to help him. The judge showed Zee no mercy,
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and thank God for that. He handed him down four
life sentences for his crimes to make sure that he
would never be able to hurt another woman ever again.
Kate lived through a woman's worst fear, but she survived.
I have to think that her education and social work
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helped her survive this situation.
Speaker 19 (53:45):
It must have.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
She used her compassion to her advantage and was wise
enough to trick her kidnapper into thinking that the girl
he was texting was only a roommate, not her beloved
girlfriend of five years. So many things went wrong in
this story, between the cops and Kate's friends and family,
but the most important thing is that Kate should have
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never been allowed to be alone with Ze. He had
a history of sexual violence and rape. Men who do
this are going to do it again. Letting Zee off
so easily the first time only told his underdeveloped brain
that he could possibly get away with this kind of
behavior again. But this time he took it too far
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and he underestimated Kate's prowess and Annie's devotion. Despite the
CoP's missteps, this truly is a story of love. Annie
saved Kate. She never gave up, and she trusted her gut,
even when the cops were moving too slow or telling
her that they just had to follow protocol. This was
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simply not acceptable. Annie's love for Kate is what saved her,
and that, in its own way, is what makes this
tragic story kind of beautiful. Well, I hope that by
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the time you hear this story, we're are done with
all that replacing cops with social workers bullshit. Perhaps we
should stop listening to people that come up with really
retarded ideas like that. But I'm sure those of you
that believe that sort of nonsense will just complain and
whine instead like you always do. Maybe just leave the
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adulting to adults. Adults have a way of being able
to keep you safe. Then again, the cops weren't really adulting,
were they.
Speaker 18 (56:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but
I do think we need to stop making excuses for
those with mental illness. Just because you have an illness
doesn't mean you're not responsible for your actions. I think
we need to stop selling that lie, because even at
the height of madness, you still have choices to make,
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and those choices say who and what You are fundamentally
sorry if you don't like that and your kid's mentally ill,
It's just the cost of living in a society. The
good of all outweighs.
Speaker 19 (57:01):
Ship Snake, she sup skip ship ship so sh