The number one mistake men make during a divorce

This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features journalist Brandon Waltens and attorney Todd Frankfort.  ( @KennethRWebster )

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Giganic government sucks. Suit of happinessradio is DeLux. Liberty and freedom will
make you smile. A suit ofhappiness us on your radio toil, just
as Cheezburgers lib rise at food.Okay, So the term eco sexual is

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now being used to describe people whoget sexually aroused by nature, and I
guess it replaces their previous label publicmasturbators. Hi, I'm Kenny Webster.
Thanks for turning on your radio today. A pleasure to be with you.
You might ask yourself, what's thedifference between KTRH and KPRC here in Houston,
Texas. Well? For one thing, I don't think anybody on KTRH

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opens their show with a joke abouteco sexuals. But you chose to be
here, so thank you for joiningus today. Lots going on, lots
in the news in Houston, Texas. There are rape kits, four thousand
of them that are finally being tested. And believe it or not, we
found matches. The known rapists havebeen walking around in our city willy nilly,

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nobody doing anything about it. Wecould have caught these. We'll get
to all that soon. Plus alittle conversation today with a family rights attorney
a local men's rights attorney, aguy named Todd Frankfurt, is going to
be stopping by to talk about whata lot of men do wrong during a
divorce. We'll get to all ofthat soon, so thank you for joining
us speaking of building a family today. Abortion not always a fun topic to

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talk about, but a necessary issueas we get into an election season.
Donald Trump telling us what he thinksabout it. They support abortion up to
and even beyond the ninth month.Well, this is what democrats think.
The concept of having an abortion inthe later months, and even execution after

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birth, and that's exactly what itis. The baby is born, the
baby is executed after birth is unacceptableand almost everyone agrees with that. That's
true right now. For the record, there are plenty of Democrats that agree
with that position. You'll find peopleout fact checking him today. That's not
really what democrats think, but actuallymany of them do think that. But

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what does Donald Trump think? Well, as it turns out, the president
responsible for helping to overturn Roe V. Wade actually has a very moderate federalist
approach to abortion. Many people haveasked me what my position is on abortion
and abortion rights, especially since Iwas proudly the person responsible for the ending

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of something that all legal scholars bothsides wanted and in fact demanded be ended
Roe v. Wade. They wantedit ended. My view is now that
we have abortion where everybody wanted itfrom a legal standpoint, the states will
determine by vote or legislation, orperhaps both, and whatever they decide must

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be the law of the land,in this case, the law of the
state. Many states will be different, many will have a different number of
weeks, or some will have moreconservative than others, and that's what they
will be at the end of theday. This is all about the will
of the people. Yeah, youmust follow your heart or in many cases,

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your religion or your faith. I'vehad a lot of people criticize me
for taking the stance that Donald Trumpnow has. I don't know why.
I don't know why. It bothersyou guys so much that we believe in
states' rights and the liberty movement.I know a lot of you don't necessarily
disagree with me, but some peopledo. There are some social conservatives who
argued that Roe v. Wade wasunconstitutional, and now they want a federal

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abortion ban, and so they're disappointedwith Donald Trump in his stance on this.
But if you thought that Roe v. Wade, a federal ruling on
legalizing abortion was unconstitutional, how couldyou think that a federal bahan on abortion
would be constitutional? Feels like acontradiction to me, right, So he

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posted this untruth Socially yesterday, hesaid his abortion policies should be left to
the states. The result, hepointed out, will be a wide range
of restrictions, with different states drawinglines at different points in what constitutes as
a pregnancy first term, second term, in places like New York or Los
Angeles, California, fourth trimester abortionis actually something people advocate for. Please

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fact check me on that. Hedoes not say which cut off he prefers.
He has previously said Florida's heartbeat law, which applies around six weeks and
prohibits most abortions, is a mistake. Frankly, I think the heart beat
is a reasonable approach to abortion.Once something has a heartbeat, you know,

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you waited till the things started todevelop into a baby, and then
he decided to get the abortion.That's terrible, it's grotesque. But by
ruling out federal abortion restrictions, Trump'sprovokes some criticism for pro life activists.
Okay, who are you going tovote for Joe Biden? Those activists will
never support Joe who not only viewsthe twenty twenty two reversal of Roe v.

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Wade as a grave injustice, butfavors legislation that would re establish a
federal right to abortion. And Imight remind you the Democrats were in control
of the executive branch and both houses, the Senate and the House, when
Roe v. Wade was overturned.There's a reason they didn't propose a law
to legalize first trimester abortion on afederal level. They wanted to campaign on

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that issue. You understand they couldhave legalized it, but Kenny, Republicans
would have voted no. Give mea break. There are plenty of people
in this country. There are plentyof Republican senators, moderate, wishy,
washy, limpristed liberal senators that wouldhave Republicans that would have voted for some
simple first tart something like that.Right, you think Mitt Romney or who's

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at checkup in Maine, Lisa Collins, You think these people wouldn't have Of
course they would have. They wouldhave voted yes. But I really think,
as Republicans in the state of Texas, for those of you that are
social conservatives, you're not considering thebest part of this. Consider this.
If this is the state's right,if it's left up to the states,
and we all know a big problemwe have right now in Texas is people

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moving here from California. What ifthis is the issue. What if this
single issue is the thing that keepsour state from moving from red to blue.
What if simply the fact that wehave very strict abortion laws in Texas
and California doesn't is the is thecatalyst that stops leftist, far left Marxist
nut jobs from moving to the state. I think, actually there's a silver

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lining doll of this, and it'sa lot better than people realize. Now.
I'm not a fan of the governmentdoing anything. This is the pursuit
of happiness. Radio on KPRC AMkind of an exciting day here at KPRC

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Radio. I was contacted by TheNew York Post a short time ago for
a quote about a video I foundlike a lot of you yesterday, I
was a little underwhelmed by the eclipsebecause here in Texas, at least in
Southeast Texas, has a lot ofcloud coverage, you couldn't really see it.
So instead of looking at the eclipse, we looked at other things.

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One of our local lawmakers, maybeyou've heard of her. Her name is
Sheila Jackson Lee. Are you familiarwith this woman? She ran for mayor
almost one came in second place,and I don't know there were several candidates.
Wit Meyer crushed her. You knowthat. I mean, I'm sure
you know that if you're listening tothis station. But anyway, Sheila Jackson
Lee is at Booker T Washington HighSchool yesterday during the eclipse, hanging out

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with a bunch of high school kidstalking about space. Now, if you've
heard Kamala Harris talk about space before, know how funny that could be.
Somehow, Shila Jackson Lee has outdoneKamala Harris in absurd observations about space exploration.
According to Shila Jackson Lee, theMoon is made out of gases and

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the Sun is almost too hot toget near, but not too hot provide
unique light and energy so that youhave the energy of the Moon at night.
And sometimes you've heard the word fullmoon right, Sometimes you need to
take the opportunity just to come outand see a full moon is that complete

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rounded circle which is made up mostlyof gases. That's why the question,
the question is why, well,how could we as humans live on the
moon? Uh huh? Are thegases such that we could do that?
The Sun is a mighty powerful heatand it's almost almost impossible to go near

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the sun. The moon is unmanageable. Oh and you will see in a
moment, and at a moment,you'll see in a couple of years.
Uh huh that NASA is going backto the moon. Wow. Brilliant stuff
here from a top lawmaker in Washington, DC. I now bring on Brandon
Waltons from Texas scorecard dot com.Brandon, this woman makes decisions that affect

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hundreds of millions of people. Thatis incredible. I haven't seen this video.
I just heard the audio just now. Was she reading that? No?
Something? No? I think she'sjust winging it. She's at a
podium, she's got notes. Okay, if somebody wrote that for her,
good Lord, that person you rememberthe audio of her berating her own employees,
her own staffers. If somebody preparedthis speech for her, that person

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is losing their job today, AmI right? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,
so that makes it a little bitbetter. All right, Okay,
she's given an impromptu speech. Iguess about the moon and the side.
Look, I'm no likes, I'mno scientist. I'm no sure you know,
expert. But some of that didn'tsound quite right to me. Did

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you know that the moon was madeout of gas? I thought it was
solid, But apparently we could breatheon the moon according to the clip I
just played for you. Well,I thought it was made of cheese,
So I think you both might bewrong. I'm very excited for what we're
learning today from Shila Jackson Lee.Shila Jackson Lee says the sun is almost
too hot to get here. Now. I think that means you and I

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could go visit the side together.Yeah, it's close, but not quite
there. No, not quite thereyet. No. Here in Houston,
Texas, we elect the best andbrightest, don't we? And so texascorecard
dot Com today just published a reportfrom our buddy Charles Blaine, and it
talks about the unmatched rape kits.We have these DNA kits, uninvestigated rape

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kits from Houston, Texas. Howmany, over four thousand of them from
the last several years and they've justbeen sitting in a I don't know,
a refrigerator somewhere, I don't know. Seventy six rape kits've just been tested
finally after sitting ignored, collecting dustfor years, and now we're learning that,
oh some of the we've matched DNA. Apparently we could have gone out

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and busted rapists. Brandon Walton's thesame people that are responsible for this and
negligence are Sheila Jackson Lee's political allies, the people that propped her up and
said she should be in office.Yeah, and you know this is a
thing where I know you've talked aboutit before and some Charles has done quite
a bit of work on asorship inthe last few weeks where you Houston Police

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Department lo and behold, they've beensitting on, you know, over a
quarter million incident reports that went uninvestigated. You know, they said they didn't
have enough staff, they didn't havethe resources. Now those cases they're finally
getting through that backlog, and yousee here that some of that includes DNA
tests as part of rape kits thatyou know, people go and they do

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this and it's not a you know, it's kind of a tough choice to
make sometimes for these victims that theygo through with this little did they know.
I think a lot of them wouldbe very very surprised and upset to
find out that once they did that, they were essentially put in a warehouse.
And yeah, we're not even gonnatouch those unbelievable and nothing gets done,
Brandon, We keep electing these peopleover and over again, Shila Jackson

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Lee isn't new, right, thepeople Sylvester Turner and his cronies have been
controlling Houston, Texas for years.Rodney allis, these these people aren't new
on the scene, the people responsiblefor this. Why don't people get mad
about this? Well? I thinkpeople should be very upset about this,
right, I mean, I thinkit goes to not only you know what's
happening in Houston, but you know, you see this happening in cities across

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the state Democrat run cities. Youknow, you look at a city like
Austin, where you know they've defundedtheir police, they've cut major resources there.
You can look at, you knowa number of these major cities the
Democrat on cities, and you knowpeople should be getting upset. I think
part of that did come into playthough. I mean John Whitmeyer of course

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is a Democrat, but I thinkpart of that, you know, was
the reason that he woned not SheilaJackson Lee. It's the moon in the
Sino side. Yeah, right,exactly. It's always two steps forward,
one step backwards in terms of thesprint towards Marxism in Houston, Texas.
With Meyer's not a conservative, he'snot a Republican, you know, he's

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not a libertarian or any none ofthe things our listeners would want him to
be. He's just simply a Democratwho doesn't think we should empty out the
jails as quickly as possible. Andsomehow that was enough to get the conservatives
and moderates in Houston to prop himup and beat Sheila Jackson Lee. That's
amazing to me. Yeah, it'sa very small thing. Had we had
a similar thing actually happened here inAustin with different results where you know,

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the Travis County DA far left guyGeorge Soros back DA here, Patty Challenger,
and you actually did have some Republicansconservatives, you know, however many
there are in Austin go and tryto elect that person a challenger to that
person in the recent primary elections,but the George Storros guy won like hands

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down, so it wasn't as successful. Meanwhile, the best attorney general in
America at the moment, I think, Ken Paxton and a group called America
First Legal, along with the coalitionof other attorney generals from other states,
are asking federal courts to reconsider theTexas lawsuit against Joe Biden in regards to
the transportation of illegal aliens via airtravel across the country. We have a

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friend of the show, Ashley SaintClair, who was at a conservative conference
a while back, I don't rememberwhere and when she went to the airport,
having spent the whole weekend talking aboutpolitical issues regarding immigration, she noticed
something at the airport. There areillegal immigrants all over the airport being shipped
around is People would say, well, it's not taxpayer funded. No,
it actually is. They're getting themoney from what is it, non governmental

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organizations nngos. I don't understand whythis is legal. Why do we have
to beg the federal court simply toget the executive branch of the government to
obey simple laws. Lawlessness is thenew norm in this country. Brandon it's
confusing. Is there anything about thislawsuit we're not understanding? Learn its lawlessness
for certain people? Right, youknow, if you're an I llegal alien

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that wants to come into this country, you know, not only are we
going to say, okay, comeon in, but now we've gone so
far past that, right, it'sit's hey, come on in and let's
you know, we're gonna feed you, and we're gonna give you a plane
ticket, We're gonna fly you acrossthe country wherever you want to go.
We're even gonna give I mean amazingthat that picture I saw you put up
on x formally known as Twitter yesterdaywith the you know whether watching or handed

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out solar eclipse classes and you knowwatching watching the solar eclipse together yesterday.
You're just thinking, how far havewe come from from, you know,
being an actual country that's going toactually enforce our borders, let alone stop
the invasion that we're saying, we'reliterally facilitating this. Texas is sued against
This has been held up in federalcourt because I believe it or not,

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court said that well, Texas didn'treally have standing. There was no evidence
that this was going to be anegative problem to Texas? Are you kidding
me? You know, Texas hasseen the brunt of this illegal invasion,
and you know it's only because oflawsuits like this that we're able to fight
back. In that photo that wentviral, for those of you that haven't
seen it yet, it's on myTwitter account. As Brandon just explained,

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Brandon, did you notice that theillegal immigrants who were looking at the eclipse
with the border patrol agent, didyou notice they're all handcuffed? Yeah,
they're in handcuffed. Isn't that thewildest thing? Where did they get the
goggled the glasses the paper? Youknow, they look like three D glasses
you'd get in a movie theater.But therefore looking at the eclipse. Who's

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handing those out at the border?I don't know, but they've all got
him. The border patrol officer hasone. He's you know, standing alongside
him as they all gate at thesun. It's just absolutely bizarre. But
I think it's like the one pictureI think does such a good job of
summarizing where we are right now.Absolutely. Yeah, it's a thousand words,

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right, Okay, So Governor Abbottand hear from Texas and the mayor
of New York City Eric Adams arehaving a little dispute right now. Abbot
is urging Adams to step up anddo his job before passing judgment to Texas.
This all relates to the border crisis. Apparently, Eric Adams, after
spending the last couple of years complainingabout the immigration crisis, is now trying

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to get work visas for I don'tknow thousands of illeging immigrants. I don't
know what the exact number is inNew York City. Did Eric Adams ever
believe any of the things he said? Why has it come to this?
You know, I think the reactionfrom Eric Adams to the fraction right as
this fraction of what Texas sees asmall fraction of illegal aliens coming to his

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own city, really underscores just theentire last response to this, which has
been that they know that ultimately thisis not good politics. Those are not
good for November. Americans generally don'twant illegal aliens coming in to their community
right now. If you're somebody wholives on the East Coast and maybe you're

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okay with them coming into Texas oryou know, one of those those quote
unquote flyover states, that they talkabout, but once the problem actually hits
their backyard, the reaction is alot different. So I think that,
you know, I think that GovernorAbbott is right to call Eric Adams out
on this, especially because Eric Adamsis somebody who is backed Biden, who
is who has helped enable this,this whole problem to begin with. My

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man Brandon Waltons. You can findhis work at texas scorecard dot com.
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It's kind of Websterginia producer Kenny Well, Well, well, look I
just walked in here. Hang ona second. We're doing video. We're
live streaming on social media. Agood friend of mine just walked in here.
Mister Todd Frankfurt. You are you'rean attorney. You're a lawyer.

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You do family law, you domen's rights law. And he's kind of
a controversial time right now, asthere's this mass exodus of people in marriages
around the country, So it's avery exciting, strange time to be in
your industry. There's no shortage ofmarital strife in Harris County. Why why
is that? What's going on?Right? Like? Is it happening more
or does it just seem like it? I think it maybe just seems like

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it. My answer to why isI think is My answer is always lack
of communication. People aren't communicating aboutsomething. You're not communicating about money,
about how you're raising your kids,about sex, about whatever. It all
boils down, in my mind toa lack of communication. People assume that

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the pandemic caused more people to getdivorced, and it certainly seems that way.
Does it just seem that way oris there actually any research to prove
it. I haven't seen empirical data, but in my practice, there was
a big uptick in in filings duringand just after the pandemic. And then,
of course the other issue is,you know, for parents out there,

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there's so many deadbeat parents in thiscity. You must have a lot
of people reach out to you aboutthat. You have people who aren't paying
child support, you get people whoaren't like there are people who aren't paying
child support and then not going tovisit their kids. It's it's it creates
a bad situation for everybody. Wehave a lot of married people that listen
to this radio station. I thinkthe ratio is like men to women two

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to one. But okay, solet's start off with men. When a
man gets in a situation whereas marriageis falling apart, Let's say he's a
dad, they own a house,just you know, typical family. What's
the number one thing men do wrongwhen they get into a divorce? You
know, I think that when peopleget in a divorced situation, you I

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always think that information is key.You want to have as much information at
your fingertips as possible. I thinkthat a lot of times men want to
bow up because it's in our natureto bow up, and you know,
I'm going to show them whatever andthen create consternation and create a fight where

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there doesn't necessarily need to be one. If what I have advised folks to
do is if you're the bread winnerand your wife is a traditional stay home
mom kind of person, unless thereis a big problem, we should try
to kind of maintain those roles.Your lifestyle as the breadwinner and the guy.

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Your lifestyle is going to get better. Hers will likely get worse because
she won't have your income to providefor things anymore. Sure, Okay,
so more often than not, Likethat's how I would assume it is as
well. But it seems like latelya lot of the divorces I hear about
it's women leaving the men. Andif that's a worse situation for them,
why would they be the ones todo it? You'd have to ask them.

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I don't know why. I mean, I think unless I don't know,
you know when you say it's aworse situation. Okay, imagine being
a forty year old man versus fortyyear old woman. Forty year old man
could date twenty year old girls,right, twenty five year old forty year
old woman is not gonna be datingwomen. There's not gonna be dating guys

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who are that that young, right, No, exactly, they're going to
date, if anything, probably anolder guy than the one they just laugh.
Maybe so, but the women typicallyare going to be the ones who
are concerned about Okay, how amI going to get little Johnny to school
every day and work a job whenthey haven't necessarily had to work a job
previously. But today most women,not most, but many women work outside

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the home. I don't want to, you know, pigeonhole myself into or
pigeonhole. You know, all womenstay home, all men, you know,
traditional gender roles. Whatever. Butthis is a conservative talk. Station's
shocked by that. You be right, So most of the time dad goes
to work, Mom stays home andraises kids. If mom's the one filing
for divorce, you would hope thatshe's got some kind of vision as to

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how things are going to look downthe road. She might understand, Okay,
well, now that I'm getting divorced, I might have to go get
a job, job, And youknow, sometimes it just that does not
ring true with with folks who arefiling or folks who are on whom folks
who are getting divorced. You andI talked about this before. A therapist

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told me that when there's a marriagethat's falling apart, very often one person's
having a midlife crisis and the otherperson couldn't handle that person's midlife crisis anymore.
So the person not having the midlifecrisis is the one who filed for
divorce. Do you witness anything likethat or is that just someone's observation?
Absolutely, that's absolutely you know,you like you see people who are,

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Okay, I'm gonna go start,I'm gonna go spend a whole bunch more
money on clothes, I'm gonna makemyself look better, and I'm gonna go
get a super fast car and allthe cliche things. Cliches exist for a
real like, there's a reason clichesexist, right, And so you get
somebody you know running around in theirbrand new red Porsche with you know,

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expensive clothes and whatever, and that'sa mid you know, midlife crisis,
and the their spouse may not wantto be along for that ride or may
not have the patience to wait itout. Yeah, in your experience,
right, Like, people get intodivorce, what do they fight about?
The house, the kids, thecars. Money's an obvious one of all

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the disputes that one of your clientsever had without saying who it is,
obviously we protect anonymity. What wasthe weirdest thing that two spouses ever argued
over when they were getting a divorce? Oh my gosh. Okay, so
the best, the best one I'veever dealt with. My favorite was and
this was years ago, so plasticSanta Claus place mats. I'm sorry what

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plastic Santa Claus place mats? Sonot Jewish people, I'm just Jewish.
We were we were in in mediationand this guy wanted to bow up over
where. You know, I wantthose those place mats Like what yeah?
And I got to get those plateslike I'm hearing you right, place mats

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like yeah, they're the Santa Clausplace mats we use at Christmas and they're
special. Mike. You know,there's a target half a mile from here,
and for what you're paying per hourto sit here and argue about plastic
Santa Claus place match, you couldliterally go buy every single place mat in
the target. Maybe we should lookat it that way. Did he ever

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explain what was there something unique aboutit? Were he's designed by mister t
or what was the point? Ithink that he just had in his mind
that he wanted those place mats becausewhen his kids came over, he wanted
to have familiar place mats for themto celebrate Christmas. I think there are
some battles you should pick and thatwould not be one of them, right,
exactly, unless you've got more moneythan since it makes it doesn't not

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a good idea. In this dayand age, people spend an absurd amount
of money on their dogs, andsome people are spending as much money on
their dogs as they do on theirkids. Visitation rights on a dog during
a divorce that's a thing, Nope, you know in unless you agree,
if they if there're if the partsagree, that okay, you know you're

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gonna get the dog on the firstthird, and you know every odd week
of the year, and I'm goingto get the dog every even week of
the year. And you put thatin a court order. Sure. Sure.
If you went to court and hada fight over I want the dog,
you know he wants the dog,whoever wants the dog, and then

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asked the judge to come up withsome kind of possession schedule for the dog,
the answer would be no, thedog is chattel. It's like having
a cow. You're not going tohave possession rights over a cow, and
the judge isn't going to order possessionrights over a dog either. So I've
tried a cat custody case though,and that was fun and explain that he

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wanted the cat, she wanted thecat, and they like, I'm not
giving in. I want the cat. Okay, So we went and had
a two and a half hour hearingover who got the cat. As a
dog person, I cannot think ofanything that's bigger waste of energy than fighting
over a cat. Absolutely, Icouldn't agree with you more. Okay,
So the laws are written so thatpets are property, and it's probably better
that way. What do you thinkwe shouldn't treat pets like kids? I

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love my dog, You love yourdog. I love my dog, and
I love my kids. You knowI'm not I don't I agree with you.
I don't think that it wise tospend the kind of time and money
and effort arguing over dog that youmight arguing over your own offspring. Brother.

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I mean, I agree with you, and yet there's people that think
we're crazy. If you're just tuningin, I'm talking to Todd Frankfort,
one of the top family law attorneysmen's rights attorneys in the city of Houston,
Texas. We're going to talk moreabout the Great Divorce Exodus. Right
after this hold on power. Thisis Biney sent this and you are listening
to the Pursuit of Happiness radio.Now give me all of your money,
because that's the only thing that's fair. Cat, Cat, I'm hanging out

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right now with Todd Frankfort, oneof the top attorneys for family law and
men's rights in the city. Ifyou're dealing with problems with your family,
if you're having a custody battle,a court case, a dispute over property,
that's what he does. I couldtell you he's a friend of mine.
I can recommend the guy. Icould tell you I'm not paid to
say that. I find him tobe a good attorney. I would recommend

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the guy if you're in that position. But Todd, you're kind of an
unlikely guy to be an attorney.A lot of people were shocked to learn
after Jerry Garcia died and Grateful Deadbroke up that Ann Coulter was a huge
fan of the Grateful Dead. Shewrote about them in Rolling Stone magazine.
You wouldn't have thought that. Now, you ran as a Republican candidate for
judge in Harris County during an electionwhen unfortunately the Left cleaned up, which

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it was sucked for us. Butwhat can you do but you're also a
die hard fish fan, kind oflike Hann Coulter loves the dead. People
wouldn't expect that about you, No, Gratefully, it all started for me
with the grateful dad. And thenI got to give a shout out to
my daughter Lucy for introducing me tofish. And now she and I go
around. Right before I left myoffice to come here, she and I

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were talking about the next fish showwe're going to try and go to together.
And I told you Primus, whowas very popular with jam band enthusiast's
playing at the Woodlands this weekend.I offered to get you tickets. And
you do not like the Woodlands pavilion. What's wrong with the Woodlands? I
love the Woodlands. I love theWoodlands Pavilion. I don't love driving an
hour or two and from and I, frankly, I'm just too old to
do that. I find that inHouston it's the strangest thing. Like in

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Chicago, we had the Ravine ifyou know what that is. It's an
outdoor music venue and they open itin the spring and they close it in
the fall, kind of like theWoodlands. That makes perfect sense in Chicago,
where it's freezing balls in the middleof winter. But here in Houston,
wouldn't it make more sense if wedid the opposite. I've been to
the woodlands in the middle of thesummer, and it's like standing in a

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furnace. It absolutely is. I'vebeen to the woodlands in the middle of
the summer, too, and that'sI know why I don't really want to
go back. It's too hot.All no, all right, what made
you become a lawyer? Is thisa family thing or did you You know
what made me become a lawyer iswhen I was in college, I was
a business major, and you know, I didn't love it. I switched

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to American history. And when Iswitched my major to American history, I
had a conversation with my father whotold me, you better go to law
school because you need to be ableto pay your bills. And so I
did. I went to law school. He had been a lawyer, and
he was a CPA kind of anexpert witness in family law cases. And

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so really I got my first tastefor it just by talking to my dad.
And then as time went on,I got out of law school and
did a short stint as a realestate litigation attorney, and I did some
a couple of years as a dealguy doing real estate deals. Then I

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went on my own. And whenyou go on your own, I had
a wife and a mortgage and akid, and you do whatever walks in
the door. And a friend ofa friend needed a divorce. I signed
him up. And the circumstances ofthat case were interesting enough that I really
enjoyed it. I got another referral, and then that guy started dating a

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married girl, so I did herdivorce before too long. And so between
those three folks and my kind oflittle marketing efforts, I ramped up and
became a divorce lawyer. I enjoyedbeing married. I did not like getting
divorced, But divorce happens. Halfof people that get married to get to
that's what they say, and apparentlythat's going up. It's unfortunate having gone

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through a divorce. One of thethings I learned about my divorce is my
divorce was very boring. We didn'thave anything that interesting. Wasn't cheating,
there wasn't abuse or anything like that. But when you go through a divorce,
you have time to read and study, and you learn all these things
about divorce. And I was fascinatedto learn that if half of divorces happened,
because I mean, half of marriagesdon't make it, they get to

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end up in divorce. I readthis thing that said, and I think
you and I talked about this offthe air. Conservatively speaking, would you
say ten percent of people that staytogether only stay together for money? Right,
that's conservatively speaking. Would you agreewith that? I mean, you've
get I feel like, of thefolks who stay together, some people stay

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together because financially it makes more sensefor them to stay together than not.
Right. A whole lot of peoplestay together for the kids. Okay,
that's another Let's say conservatively, that'sanother ten percent. I think that's more
than ten percent. Okay, soright now we're looking at seventy percent of
people, the fifty percent that areunhappy, and let's say the twenty percent

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that stay together for either the moneyor the kids, they're unhappy. That's
seventy percent of marriages are unhappy.Right. Is that the legal definition of
negligence? I mean, is thatwhat that is? It's well, I
don't know. I think that peopleget married. I think in today's age,
I look at my parents sure.My parents met when they were fourteen

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and they're still married. Yeah,and they've been together this whole that whole
time. They are this summer willcelebrate their sixty or fifty eighth, maybe
fifty ninth wedding anniversary. We don'thave that same commitment, or most folks
don't have that same level of commitmentto a marriage that the older generations do.

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Right, my folks are seventy eightyears old. It's just different.
My dad dated one person ever,unbelievable. And are they religious? Yes?
Yeah. My parents were married rightup until my dad died. They
were together for decades, and Ialways assumed I would be like that.
But it's just not like that anymore. Sure, I guess not. You
know, it's funny. I wentto a sixtieth wedding anniversary party this past

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weekend and asked. I asked thethe husband, what's the secret? He
said, I do whatever she says, that's it. Just say yeah,
how to win every divorce or howto win every argument? Say yes,
dear, you're right, absolutely,okay. Uncontested divorces are when both parties
agree these are my assets, thoseare yours. Let's part ways in your

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experience. How often does that happen? Fairly often? I mean you get
people who a lot of times theycome in and they're ready to like go
have a fight, and then theyrealize what it will cost them to have
a fight, and they're like,you know what, let's just agree it's
easier, it's faster, it's cheaper. Let's just agree. I'm gonna take

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this stuff. You're gonna take thatstuff. But it being able a boop
done right, And that is it'scertainly easier to do that. And in
Texas we don't have alimony. Isonly after ten years of marriage? Is
that right? Alimony? It's funny. I teach at law school here and
which one at TSU Law School.It's a good school, it is,
and the really great litigators come outof that place. We're talking about alimony

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tonight in my class. And inTexas we have alimony, but it is
so severely limited. You have tobe able to if you're trying to get
alimony, you have to be ableto prove that you're unable to provide for
your minimum reasonable needs. And thenwe talk about what constitutes minimum reasonable needs.

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Well, you know, rent somefood groceries and healthcare. Yeah,
and your bills. And sure youit's not cable or cell phones or it's
not. It's it's not driving aroundin a range Rover. Certainly, you
know, it might be driving aroundin a Chevy and putting some gas in
it. But you have to beable to show that you can't. You

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can't do that all right. Oneof the things I was surprised to learn
from hearing other people's stories about theirdivorces, things like cheating. You would
assume that would be a big thingand avore divorce unless the person spend a
lot of money on their lover.That doesn't really matter. No, you
know, it's funny. I thinkthat if the way I explain it to
folks, it's terrible held cheat andit's it's awful. It's devastating, you

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know, personally and mentally. Itmesses with your head. But the judge
who's going to hear your case rightbefore the first, the case before you,
he will have heard about a babywho was born addicted to crack.
Good God. The case right afteryou is going to be about some kid
who got beat by you know,within an inch of his life, or

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a woman who got beat within aninch of her life by an abusive spouse.
The fact that your husband has beenchipping around with the secretary is not
going to shock the judge. It'snot going to shock the judge. He
sees it every single day now.Granted, if he sees it and he
hears about it, he's be disappointed. He or she will be disappointed.

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And altly, where I think thatcheating might make a difference is when you
divide assets. It starts at afifty to fifty sure, and then if
you're if you can prove that there'sbeen infidelity, then that fifty to fifty
will get adjusted somewhat, but notas much as people would assume. Not

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as much as people would assume unlessthere is a huge spend expenditure of money
on the other bought car or somethingbought somebody car, sent them cash.
Yeah, kind of thing. Howabout this? Okay, So we live
in a day and age now wherethere's swingers and polyamorous people and pan sexuals
and stuff. What is a divorcejudge here when they say that, when

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they hear about that, what theysay, I don't know what a divorce
judge here is. But what Ihear is, you know, I had
a woman come in my office andcry me a river about her husband's cheating
on her, like wow, andit was. It went on for long
enough that I finally am like,okay, well, ma'am, if you
ever had a relationship outside of yourmarriage, and she dried it up like
that, it's just like snap upa figure, and I'm like, okay,

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and so what I don't know?What does that mean? I mean,
have you had sex with anybody besidesyour husband since you got married?
And her response was, well,I mean we're swingers. So like,
lady, you know you can't comeand complain about all this and then tell
me that so it doesn't have thesame effect. Todd Frankfurt. For those
of you that need a good look, I tell you Todd's a good guy.

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He's a friend of mine. Idon't get paid to say that.
I think he's a smart man,he's trustworthy. I think he's an honest
dude. If people are dealing withfamily law, property law, men's rights,
that kind of thing, you canhelp them out. How do they
find you find me? I workfor the firm O'Neill. Weisaki here in
Houston. I promised everyone in myoffice that I would give a shout out
to them too. So hey,everybody, and our phone number seventy one,

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three, two, two four,eighteen hundred. Well you ever run
for judge again? Probably not?Politics sucks, doesn't it. I did
not. I liked running was fun. I think I'm good at it,
but I think that in I'd likewinning, and I really don't like having
no control over the outcome of whetherI win. And you would never run

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as a Democrat. Probably not,because in this town it doesn't matter what
your policies are. Just feels likeDemocrats win, Republicans lose. That's the
way it is a lot of times. It's true. Todd Frankfurt. Find
him, look him up. He'snot hard to reach. I'm Kenny Webster.
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