Why are people asking Holly Hansen for pictures of feet?

This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features journalists Holly Hansen, Brandon Darby, and Michael Quinn Sullivan. 

Episode Transcript

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The Giganic government sucks. Suit ofhaving us radio is DeLux Liberty and freedom
will make you smile. A suitof happing us on your radio tol just
as cheeseburgers a living fries at forfood time. Sunday is Mother's Day.

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It's estimated there are eighty five millionmothers in America. All thanks to Nick
Cannon. Hi, I'm Kenny Echester. Thanks for turning on your radio.
It's good to be here with yourkids. Today's a big show because it's
Friday, it's the end of theweek. Today's the day we review.
We look back on bizarre news storiesfrom the week, things we didn't spend
a lot of time talking about.Okay, one of those things obviously would

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be the Boy Scouts of America changingtheir name to Scouts of America. As
a matter of fact, Michael QuinnSlivan's going to be hearing just a little
bit to talk about that. He'sthe creator at Texas Scorecard dot Comedy used
to be a boys Out and I'dlove to get his two cents on it.
We're gonna we're gonna talk a lotabout history on today's show. As
a matter of fact, the BoyScouts the Indian Guides the YMCA. But

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before we get to any of that, well, what the hell, Let's
start with history right now, shallwe? Here? Here, young lads
and lasses, shut your filthy gobletholes and listen up, because here are
some things that happened on this dayin history. Today's May tenth. Hang
on, let me double check.Yes, it's May tenth, one hundred

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years ago today, one hunt.This is the one hundredth anniversary of one
of the worst events in history forAmerican civil liberties. A twenty nine year
old man named j Edgar Hoover,a cross dressing weirdo, assumed the role
of director of the then Bureau ofInvestigation eventually became the FBI. He was

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ambitious, he was power hungry,he was conniving. That's how Matthewharwood put
it at Reason dot Com, andhe epitomized the snake in the proverbial garden.
Back in the twentieth century, liberalsand Democrats knew Jay Edgar Hoover was
a problem. Well, liberals knewit, and conservatives seemed to like him.
And then now that's flipped, hasn'tit. Here In the twenty first

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century, neoliberals they like the FBI, and then Republicans and conservatives don't like
the FBI. If I told youthere was a branch of our federal government
that gets almost an unlimited amount offunding, and they don't have to tell
us what they do with the funding, and they don't have to tell us
what they're doing, and they canoperate without any oversight, without any authority.
They could do all they could commitcrimes. You would probably say,

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well, we better get rid ofthem. We're having a very bizarre moment
in the news right now where thisweek Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the
House, came out and he said, no matter what happens, he's going
to protect Jack Smith, the federalinvestigator that went after Trump over those classified
documents. And this happened right afterwe found out the FBI put fake cover

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document It's props if you will likemovie props, like props in a community
play as the cover pages on abunch of classified documents they found at Trump's
office. Remember last year when thathappened as a big scandal. It's about
a year ago. Oh no,Trump, he can never be president again.
He had classified documents in his possession. Well, who else did everybody

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else in the federal government. Basicallyeverybody else had ever been in the federal
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, NancyPelosi, Mike Pence, God knows how
many classified documents. Dick Cheney isbuilding a ford out of right now at
his home, wherever the hell heis. But this whole problem with intelligence
agencies trying to rig elections and startwars and all the things that they've done

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during our lifetime, it all startedwith Jay Edgar Hoover. Under his watch,
which lasted until his death in nineteenseventy two, the FBI emerged as
an alarming adversary to constitutional freedoms,an alarming enemy of your basic civil liberties
and freedoms, your god given rights. But it all started at the Justice
Department back in nineteen seventy two.Excuse me, nineteen seventeen. Sorry,

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he died in nineteen seventy two.In nineteen seventeen, he started his career.
He was twenty two years old,and he ascended the ranks, climbed
the ranks, often at the expenseof American civil liberties. Of course,
we felt a little differently about thoseback then. Two years after joining nineteen
nineteen he was in charge of theJustice Department's Radical Division, The Radical Division.

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What did they do well? Theywere charged with destroying the supposed communist
infiltration of America. I'm not againstthe idea of that in theory, but
boy, that went in the wrongdirection. He had a lifelong disdain for
communists. That's something I may haveagreed with him on. But strangely,
in an effort to stop leftist authoritarianism, he engaged in quite a bit of
authoritarianism himself. So he's the headof this group, the Radical Division,

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and he began developing some really dirtytricks. What kind of stuff he would
become known for, tactics fundamentally atodds with a free society, you know,
he started compiling secret files that madehim infamous and feared by the political
elite. How did he know thatit was important to go out and make
secret recordings of high ranking government officials. Well, for one thing, he

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knew that he was doing disturbing,weird stuff behind closed doors. He was
a cross dressing weirdo after all,So why weren't other people doing those things
too? Under his leadership, hefueled something called the Espionage Act of nineteen
seventeen, federal agents aggressively pursued radicals, communists, socialists, anarchists. They

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tapped their phone lines, they interceptedtheir mail. Now, Iang, I've
always had mixed feelings about that.I want to stop communism, I want
to stop socialism, I want tostop anarchists. We still want to do
that today. But we tried thosetactics. We've been doing them for one
hundred years, guys, one hundredyears. And in the one hundred years
we've been attempting to do those tactics, we've been using his tactics for one

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hundred years. The communism in Americais as bad as it's ever been,
you know. In April nineteen nineteen, there was a coordinated anarchist campaign of
mail bombs targeted at prominent Americans.Seems like something we want to stop,
right. Hoover answered by organizing whatbecame known as the Palmer Raids. Went

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around raiding people's homes. Twelve hundredsuspected radicals. A lot of them ended
up in city jails for months.Hundreds were deported under the Anarchist Exclusion Act
in nineteen eighteen, and not unlikethe January sixth thing, an awful lot
of innocent people were arrested and caughtand imprisoned. They turned out later on

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to be completely innocent. But itwas Hoover's encore following January of that year
that epitomized what would become his legacyutter disregard for constitutionally protected rights. Beginning
at nine pm on January second,nineteen twenty, Jay Edgar Hoover led the
largest mass arrest in American history.The raids went on for weeks. Thousands

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were detained indiscriminately, many without warrantsor just cause. The actual numbers suggest
it was up to about ten thousandpeople swept up in the raids. He
notes that we will likely never knowthe exact number, as no official accounting
ever took place. Isn't that crazy? Today? The FBI is as corrupt

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as ever And it all started onehundred years ago today with j Edgar Hoover.
Everything you've heard is a lie,well unless you heard it from the
mouth of Kenny Webster. All facts, even the bit about is little Kenny.
Oh sorry, Brope, I meanBig Kenny. You're listening to Kenny
Webster's Pursuit of happiness. Buns Scabbyfucking ones, victories and all, Lisa.

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If pearl Ives was alive today,he would probably say, keep me
in this coffin. I don't wantto have anything to do with the insanity
that's going on today. You know, this was a pearl Ives song.
Once upon a time, a longtime ago, it was okay for boys
to be boys and girls to begirls. That was okay. Today it's

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okay for girls to be girls.I'll just nd the sentence right there,
because you all know there's no moreto that. What is it okay for
boys to be boys? No?Boys are overwhelmingly what's wrong with America today?
Who says that? Well, ourpublic school educators and I got to
assume the boy Scouts have taken onthis ideology of telling young men that they're
toxic, their toxic masculinity destroying theworld. Funny thing about that, I

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think we've talked about this statistic before. For the first time ever, right
now, young men in high school, middle school are pulling conservative. They're
pulling more conservative than they've ever pulledbefore. Why do you think that is?
It's the same reason why they werepulling more liberal than ever before back
in the nineteen sixties. I'm talkingabout teenagers. They go on and they

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ask them their opinions about things likethe economy, war, you know,
gender roles, that sort of thing. These research studies have happened for a
long time, and they're finding nowthat after telling young men you're what's wrong
with the world, you're destroying,you're a man, and you're a problem,
it's pushing them to the right.I say all that to make this
point. I think maybe there's asilver lining to the Boy Scouts changing their

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name to Scouts of America. Thisis one more thing that's going to push
young men to grow up and voteRepublican. I mean, I certainly think
so, because this probably it hasto upset you to be told you're the
cause of all the world's problems whenyou can't even drive a car yet.
I reached out to a friend ofmine is a lifelong Boy Scout. I

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was a Cub Scout as a kid. I was a Boy Scout as well.
It's one of the reasons I gotinto radio. As a teenager.
I worked in a recording scoot studioin my town where I grew up.
That was actually it was a BoyScouts program. They taught us how to
use recording equipment on the line rightnow, my buddy, Michael Quinn Sullivan,
Michael, I guess you won't haveanything to do with these people anymore,
even though for most of your adultyour young life, you were one

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of these people. Yeah. Look, I'm I was a Boy Scouts as
a kid Eagle Scout order of thearea, which was kind of a you
know, honor thing within within BoyScouts, as an adult assistant Scout Master,
Scout master of my son's Scout troop. And this push by the Boy

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Scouts of America to adopt the thefar leftist woke ideology has been has been
going on now for a couple ofyears, but most notably, it began
as revelations began to appear that thathomosexual men had been entering Boy Scouts for

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decades and had been molesting young boys, and and and the Boy Scouts covered
it up. Now that's horrible,it's sinful. The Boy Scouts rightly deserved
to be punished legally for having andhaving the practice of covering that up.
But the response, though, andit seemed the response from the Boy Scouts

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as well, we can make theseproblems go away if you'll just embrace the
abusers if you will allow homosexuals.You know, it was the Boy Scouts
had a policy when the abuse wasgoing on, homosexuals could not be in
the Boy Scouts of America. Ifyou were a homosexual man, you could

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not be participating in Boy Scouts.That was a stated rule. You know.
The the Scout Scout oath includes thephrase be morally straight right, and
everyone knew precisely what that involved.And so long come the Boy Scouts.
They're facing this problem, and theand the left to say, hey,
who are devoted to destroying the institutionsthat make America great? They said,

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had what, you know, oneway to deal with this problem is if
you'l s at homosexuals in, wewill will lower the heat, will lower
the criticism. And so the BoyScouts, being stupid, uh said well,
sure, we'll take that bargain.And what has now resulted is people
fleeing Boy Scouts. The Boy Scoutsof America is a shell of what it
used to be. It is itis in terms of that, the numbers

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have have dropped precipitously. And sothen came this push, well, let's
you know that, let's let girlsinto the Boy Scouts, and now we're
going to change the name. Wenow have uh, the Diversity, Equity
and Inclusion MERIT badge, all thesethings. They're turning Boy Scouts from a
wholesome activity for young boys to learnhow to navigate safely and properly a path

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and a manhood to now it isnothing more than a leftistant doctrination program.
As if we needed another one ofthose. Right your take right there about
how the Boy Scouts had a problemwith sexual misconduct and they tried to cover
it up. We all know aboutthat, and then they went in the
other direction with this. Instead ofyou know, covering up the fact that

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homosexuality was happening, they're now embracingit. You can now get the LGBTQ
Awareness Badge or whatever bizarre thing thatis. But the strangest thing about that
to me, Michael, is thatwe know this isn't unique to the Boy
Scouts, the idea of covering upsexual misconduct. Look, I'm a Catholic.
I mean, we don't do Ieven need to, you know,
but public schools. There's a storyon your website right now, Gatesville,

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what is this? Gatesville ISDT you'rearrested for sending nude photos to fifteen year
old kids or whatever. This sortof thing happens everywhere where there's young people.
It happens with every religion. Right. It's not just Catholics, right,
it's not Muslims, Hindus, ithappens Judaism. It happens all over
the place, and at public schools, anywhere where there's young kids. It's
sick, it's sad, it's disgusting, it's depraved. But the Boy Scouts

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marketing themselves in an effort to likeit's like, I made a joke about
that on Twitter earlier this week,but you're right, that's actually what they're
doing. I wonder, and Iknow you may not know the answer to
this off the top of your head. Is there any other organization that's ever
done that, that had a scandallike this that they got into trouble for
covering up and then eventually they're like, you know what, let's just own

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it. We're the gay Scouts now, we're Scouts of America. It's not
even for boys, it's for genderfluids and non binaries. And you know
what, we're going to have adultswho are openly gay be the Scout leaders
and they're going to go camping withyour six year old. Has anyone else
ever done anything like this before?It's such a bizarre move. The numbers,
the recruitment numbers must really be downfor them to do this, Michael,

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Well, they're they're down. Butit's it's this, you know,
it's just the it's the water goingdown the drain because the numbers have been
bad, and they're getting worse withevery iteration, it's getting worse. And
to answer your question, no,no one has ever done this, because
it's stupid. When when you werefound to have betrayed your principles, the

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the correct action is to acknowledge thatyou betrayed your principles and then work harder
to live up to them, notto abandon your principles. And yet the
Boy Scouts of America decided they weregoing to abandon their principles. And again
then as a result, the statyou sided at the front end about how
all these young men are pulling moreand more conservative, I think in part

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that's because all these young interesting Waita second, yeah, all the things
that should be available to me arebeing taken away. If you are a
you know, if you're a femif you're a biological female who identifies as
a furry and wants to hate God, there's all sorts of things that you
can join. If you're a youngmale who has you know, who you

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know, who wants to lead amoral life and provide for family, there's
now almost nowhere you can go.I mean, it's absolutely insane and looking.
You know, this is what we'vetolerated, this is what we've this
is what we have said that we'reokay with. And until we know you
and I specifically you and me asadult men, say, young men,

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young boys, you know, aplace to safely navigate into manhood. And
until we're willing to what's going tohappen and what makes me fear and tremble
for the coming couple of generations isyou're going to have this culture where young
boys can't safely navigate into manhood.And that what you find to look at

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inner city America where you have,you know, by government policy, you
know, entire neighborhoods of boys whohad no father figures, boys who had
no access to appropriate models of manhood. And that's to re see the gang
violence. That's where you see thedrugs. That's where you see, you
know, the heavy prison populations,and the list goes on of all those

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travails. It is not too muchto say that what we've seen happen to
boy scoumps is literally what the radicalleft who hates America what they want to
do is to destroy our institutions sothey can destroy our people. Yeah,
it's absolutely true. It's obviously backin the nineteen sixties they told young men,
you have to go to Vietnam,you have to fight communism, you

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have to stop leftism, and asa result they became leftists. And now
today we have woke ideology telling themyou have to stop right wingers, and
it's made them right wing. AndI just wonder, at what point in
society do we just give kids informationand let them decide for themselves. Is
that too radical of a thing todo. I suppose must be. But
you know, there's this other thingthat you just reminded me of the Indian

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Guides back in the twentieth century whenI was a Scout. I was never
an Indian Guide, but I rememberthat was like the alternative to Boy Scouts
and Girl Scouts. I was wonderingwhat became of that? The YMCA Indian
Guides are now called the Adventure Guides. Does that even exist anymore? You
know, it's been you know,it's funny as you say that, I
was trying to remember when was thelast time I heard about that group?

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And it's been years. Yeah,years and years and year years. I
think that you know the again,like some of these things, Oh,
we've got to change the name,so because you know you can't you can't
be an Indian Guide anymore, youknow, so we've got to change to
Adventure Guides. Well, when youstart making those kinds of changes, it
becomes very easy too. Well,then we should also get rid of this

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this whole discussion about being moral,you all, discussion about you all,
you start tchipping away at everything.And I think this is the problem with
our with this culture that has embracedthis, you know, you know,
radical radical leftist ok ideology, isthat you end up when you just embrace
it for marketing reasons. Well,we're going to change the name, Okay,

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that's fine. Yeah, but whenyou do that, suddenly becomes easy
to break all these to allow othersto dig deeper into ways to undermining what
you stand for I mean at thatpoint, you stand for nothing. The
Boy Scouts and the YMCA in thelate eighteen hundreds, that's when you started
to see this stuff pop up aroundAmerica, and it kind of this stuff

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really dwindled away in the twenty firstcentury. So it dominated our culture in
the twentieth century from the beginning tothe end. And now it's really gone
away and to the point where they'vehad to make it woke and bizarre.
And I know the scandals had somethingto do with it, but do you
think it also had something to dowith technology, Like kids don't go to
the YMCA anymore. Right, Well, so you had with Boy Scouts,

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you had to push Levice Strauss,the Big Blue Jeen manufacturer had been a
They were the official supplier of BoyScout clothing up until the nineteen early nineteen
eighties, and their company went leftistsand they demanded the Boy Scouts go leftist.
The Boy Scouts said, no,thank you, We're not going to

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do that, and Believi Streuss keptputting financial pressure on the Scouts. So
you had had that kind of pressure. Think about you know, we talked,
we've breeze past the name the YMCA. Okay, YMC Young Men's Christian
Association, Okay, young men's criticization. You no longer find YMCA on almost
any of their buildings. They've takenaway because they're really offended by the M

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and the C. When any YoungMen's Christian Association, they dropped the C.
In the early two thousands, youno longer found bibles. Used always
find bibles at that YMCA's. Theytook out the Bibles because that was offensive
to people. Then they took outthe men's because of course, you know,
we're open to men and women's,which now it's just the why.
And quite honestly, Kenny, Iwouldn't want my kids going to the Y

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knowing what they allow and stand for. I'm going to know. My parents
would drop me and my sister onat the YMCA to swim all day you
know, which was allowed, youknow, and we could swim all day
long there at the YMCA, andit was great and they didn't never have
to, you know, faunt orworry about it. Uh. I wouldn't
do that with kids today, quiteon usly because they have changed their value

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set. They'd just changed too,and what they believe and who they decided
to serve, and who they serveare adults who want to do bad things
to children. Yeah, I blamethe village people for destroying the YMCA.
And then and similarly, I blameGirl Scouts Cookies for making the boy Scouts
so unpopular because they're not getting ridof the Girl Scouts. No, no,

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the girl Scouts. Interestingly, herethe here, the boy Scouts have
gone to. They start layting girlsin calling so boy Scouts on. They
calling it the Scouting Scouting America istheir new name. And the girl Scouts
say, so, are you makingthese changes Girl Scouts? No, we're
out making changes. They don't callit. Biological males kind into there.

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Here they are the super Dei Warriorsand then biological and girl Scouts. That's
a that's a safe space for girls. That's a safe space for people with
xx chromosomes. Chromosomes. You can'tbe an x Y chromosome person and be
in in Girls Scouts. But apparentlyScouting America you can be a furry you

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know, whatever you want to beand be in there. Crazy crazy crazy.
I'm sure a year from now youand I will be doing a segment
on how they changed the name ofthe group to the Trans Scouts of America.
Because that's just as I'm calling itright now. Michael, Michael Quinton
Sullivan, we didn't even get timeto talk about Texas politics. We went
a little along on this, butthat's okay. Look, it's it's an

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interesting story, and I knew thatit was close to Michael's heart because he
is a former Boy Scout. I'llthat being said, Michael is a wealth
of knowledge on Texas politics, andso is his entire team at Texas scorecard
dot com. You must go totech to scorecard dot com today sign up
for their email list. It isThey're going to give you so much great
information about what is going on rightnow in and around the state of Texas.

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Things the Houston Chronicle doesn't want youto know about. And while you're
at it, following my buddy Michaelon social media. I know a lot
of you already do, but Ialways just think it's a good reminder.
He's a great follow on Twitter.Kenny Webster the best looking dude on radio.
Yep. And if you've seen thecompetition, that's not saying a whole
hell of a lot very ugly there. It's not a blank check. Yeah,

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every war on Earth, we haveto fund it. Why is that
it's not a blank check? Guys, I'm going to do something right now,
and some of you are probably goingto be confused by it. I'm
going to say something that won't beterribly critical of Biden. Biden and now
I know why he's doing it.Biden says he wants to pull support for
Israel because Israel is going to invadeRafa, and I agree. We know

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it's important to support it's important tosupport Israel. There's still eight citizens currently
being held hostage among the two hundredtwo hundred days in Rafa. Now,
well, we don't know where theyare exactly, but somewhere. I don't
feel like we have to. Ijust don't feel like we should have to
support every single did y'all watch LindsayGraham and Hannity earlier this week reacting to

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news that Biden will stop supporting Israelif they invade Rafa. Graham and Hannity,
we're both furious about this, andthey keep going on and on about
all the reasons why and it's bad. But then at the end of the
interview, Graham and Hannity both admitIsrael can win the war without our support.
And if that's true, you know, we are thirty four trillion dollars
in debt. Why do fiscal conservativeswant us to fund every flipping war?

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Now? I get it, thisis different. There's Americans there, I
understand. But if we have tofund this war, why do we have
to fund Ukraine? If we haveto fund Ukraine? Why do we have
to fund Yemen? If we haveto fund Yemen? Why are we getting
involved in the thing in Venezuela andguy Yana? What? You know?
What? Why did we stay inAfghanistan for twenty years? Why were we

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in Niger? Does anyone even know? I think I know one guy that
might have some answers. Sounds likesome Texas justice to me. And now
live from the border. It's BrightBart's Brandon Darby with the cartel chronicles only
on KPRC radio. Are there It'scitizens currently trapped in Gaza. They claim

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among they've been there for two hundreddays. There's also American citizens in North
Korea and China and Russia. There'syou know, there are definitely American hostages
around the world. I hate that. The question is this, how much
money? How much time should wespend and is pulling out of the war
in order to win the electoral collegein the state of Michigan. Is that

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a good reason to do it?I know it's a lot to unpack.
Brandon Darby, where do you wantto start with this? Well, the
bottom line is that when we talkabout there are American citizens who aren't being
held hostage all around the world,where are these American citizens and what were
the context in which they were beingheld hostage? So in Russia we have

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some people who were captured while theywent to Ukraine to take up arms against
the Russian military and they're prisoners ofwar. Right. We have a journalist
who is being accused of being aspy who was arrested and is being detained.
I do not know whether or nothe was a spy. I know

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that historically journalists are accused of beingspies and many or not. And I
know that historically intelligence agencies have usedjournalists as spies. You know, the
US accused of several US citizens ofwho claim to be journalists, of being
spies, right, including foreigners.So that is one set of circumstances.

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A bunch of people doing a militaryassault murdering civilians and capturing US citizens because
they're Jewish, and in holding themin holes in the ground, and it
being an organization we deem as aterrorist organization is a different set of circumstances.

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So what is going on with FAMASand what is going on in Gaza
is that terrorists have kidnapped American citizensand have kept them in holes in the
ground for two hundred days. Iwould say that we either go get them,
or that we do the sensible thing, which is to continue funding someone

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else to go get them, whois also our ally. So I very
much support Israel. I think thatthere are a couple of countries around the
world that we should continue to supportmilitarily. I also do not support the

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funding that we're giving Ukraine. It'snot an either or to me, it's
or a black and white. Itdepends on the circumstances. With Israel,
I think they're a true ally andI think we should support them. I
think it's in our nation's best interests. That said, even if you hate
Israel and you don't think we shouldsupport them, or you like Israel but
don't think we should support them,we should still support their effort to get

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the hostages back because eight of themare US citizens, and there were more,
but now they're allegedly eight, andwe should get them back. Absolutely,
we should get them back if itmeans our blood being still doing it,
or we should get them back ifit means their blood being still doing
it, or if we can't getthem back, we should make sure that

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the wrath that we display across acrossthat region is so extreme that people think
twice before ever Kidnapping American citizens,probably sexually assaulting them as they've done many
others, and then keep them inholes and tunnels in the ground for two

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hundred days absolutely unacceptable to me.I'm not a big war guide. I'm
a big guy. I'm all aboutus using our resources to support our own
people in this country and to supportour own borders. But again, I
do think there are some situations inthe world where it warrants, it warrants

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us being involved. I do notthink Ukraine is one, but I do
think that Israel is one. Okay, so Israel, Hannity, So I
guess you agree with Hannity and LindseyGraham that is supportant for US sport to
support Israel in this war. Doyou agree with them that Israel could win
the war without our help? Well, yes and no. So again there's

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a nuance to this, right,So, could Israel win Israel has nuclear
weapons? Could Israel win without ourhelp? Yes? Could Israel win without
our help without inflaming a lot morewar that we're going to end up getting
pulled into anyways, probably not.Israel's going to have to use dumber artillery,
right, more basic weapons. They'regoing to have to be much more

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brutal than they would have to beif we don't give the precision and the
resources and the intelligence right that we'regiving them, They're going to have to
be much more brutal. But Ithink that you know, the question is
whether Israel should if drafa, whetherIsrael should do whatever they're doing. The
question is, and what people shouldbe calling for is why is Hamas not

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releasing the hostages? Right, that'sthe question. Israel should do whatever they
have to do in order for thatto achieve that goal. They can.
If we if someone did what tous, what those Palestinians did the Israelis,
we would have already annihilated them.Case in point, look at a
rock. They didn't even do thatto us, sure, right, And

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look what we did to Fallujah,right, We told those people will get
the hell out and if you don't, you're gonna die. And then everybody
who didn't, a bunch of themdied. We didn't care. So when
it's us who has an interest,all of a sudden, we're not so
moral, right, all of asudden, war is war. But when
it's them, now, all ofa sudden, we expect them, we

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expect them to behave differently. Ifyou look at the percentage of civilian casualties
in this conflict between Israel and thePalestinians right now with with gossins, if
you look at they're doing a muchbetter job than we did in Iraq,
you know, percentage wise. Andyet we're complaining why because they're Jews.
Are Jews supposed to be held toa different standard. Then then then the

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overall mixed population of the United Statesor or other countries in the world know
they're at war and they should beat war for what happened. So to
me, all bets off until theyrelease the hostages. Once the hostages are
released, then we start to go. Okay, all bets off, and
until everyone involved in that attack isslain. Once they're slain, now we

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can talk about peace. That's howI feel. We would do the same
thing. That's our friend, that'sour ally, and we should continue to
have their back. Could they doit without us? Yeah? They They
could absolutely do it without us.Could they do it well without us?
Could they do it without shedding moreof their blood? Could they do it
with as high of a likelihood ofgetting hostages back, including eight Americans?

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No? Could they do it withouthaving to be more brutal? No?
So? But could they do it? Yes? I think so, but
not as well. No. Iwill add this. I don't disagree with
really anything you just said, butI will add this point. Israel is
the only place in the Mid Eastwith a government that resembles ours, with
freedoms and liberties that resemble ours,that where life seems to at least seem

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something close to what life is likein the West. There's nowhere else in
the in the Mid East it's likethis where women have rights and religious minorities
of only Israel and Israel alone.Israel, interestingly enough, is also the
only place probably in the world,where our regime change tactics have worked,
because remember, once upon a time, you know, the British government controlled

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that region. That region was sortof a something of a lawless land in
the early to mid twentieth century,where not lawless in the sense that it
was like anarchy, but it wasa lot of religious nomads out in the
desert and very friendly with Adolph Hitler. Interestingly enough, during World War Two
he traveled there to meet with Muslimemams to talk about how he was against

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Zionism and saw that being said,it's the one place where our policies on
regime change have actually kind of worked. They didn't work in Afghanistan, they
didn't work in Syria, they didn'twork in Iraq, didn't work in Niger,
didn't work in Yemen. You namea place where we've sent military and
CIA agents to try to spread democracy, to create a represent Only in Israel

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did it work. Is reel asconstantly on the brink of World War three
as we see today. If welearn one thing from all this, it's
that, yeah, maybe we shouldsupport Israel, but we should never try
to do this again anywhere else inthe world. Would you I only have
a minute left here, Brandon,would you agree or disagree with that?
I don't know. I think wedid a pretty good job job in Japan,

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Okay, okay, okay, butI'll have to name a bunch of
success stories where we intervened and didregime change and they worked out. Okay,
okay, Japan, Japan, fine, But but look what happened to
the men in Japan. You know, they're not having sex anymore, Brandon,
They're Japanese culture isn't even going toexist in another generation. There's more

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people dying than being born there,and I got to think the nuclear bomb
had something to do with that,Brandon. Well, so again, I
just want to caution people. Wetend to do this thing where we're like
either against foreign intervention or for it, or yeah, neocons or were peace
activity. It's like, look,every situation is different. General principles we

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should not get involved. But thereare some true allies in this world.
Australia, you know, England,Israel, right, we do have some
true allies who are worth standing beside, and I just hope that we continue
to. I'm sorry that that thereare many folks who don't want to.
I think it's very important that wedo, and I think that Israel should

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plow ahead and do whatever they haveto do to achieve their goals, which
is to get their citizens and ourcitizens out of the holes in the ground
and back home with their families.That's what I'm all about. You know,
I don't necessarily agree disagree with anythingyou said there either. I just
think that we should always proceed withskepticism, especially with a guy like Joe
Biden in charge. And you knowwhat else is interesting about this segment,

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Brandon, Of all the times thatyou and I have taken a slightly different
stance on a hot button issue,I bet this is probably the one time
when more of our listeners would probablyagree with you than me. Probably,
Brandon, I hope you. Ihope you. I hope you have an
awesome weekend. My man, youtoo, My friend Brandon Darby. Find

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him at Breitbart Texas, follow himon Twitter. What is Pursuit of Happiness
radio basically political memes in audio format. Happy the Frog, Eat your heart
out. I've done a lot ofradio segments with my friend Holly Hanson over

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the years. Holly Hanson of theTexan News, this is a good show.
Today you have Michael Quinn Sullivan ofTexas scorecard dot Com, Brandon Darby,
the creator of Breitbart Texas and theCartel Chronicles, and now my friend
Holly Hanson Thetexan dot News, theofficial conservative news reporter of Southeast Texas for

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what is one of the only digitalnews other than talk radio. There's not
a lot of places where conservatives cango get news in the state of Texas.
But all three of those people ontoday's show, three heavy hitters on
Texas political news, all three greatjournalists and reporters in their own right.
I want to start this conversation withTroy Finner. We have a police chief
in Houston, Texas. What wedid, who knew about all kinds of

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terrible things and he lied about it. The Sylvester Turner era of Houston,
Texas. It isn't quite over yetbecause we still have Chris Hollins, our
horrific Houston controller to deal with andhis feud with the Houston Firefighter union trying
to get rid of their funding.As if first responders are getting paid too

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much in Southeast Texas. That's whatthe Sylvester Turner Democrats like Chris Hollins seem
to think. But we had abigger scandal this week, and it involved
an investigation, a report from alocal news outlet involving Troy Finner. If
you don't live in Houston, youmay not know who Troy Finner is.
And that's okay. He was ourpolice chief right up until a few days
ago, and thank god he isn'tanymore. He had to go KHO.

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You did an investigation and they realized, going as far back as six years
ago, he knew about hundreds ofthousands of credible cases, credible criminal cases
that were either dismissed or ignored,including thousands of rapes, four seventeen sex
crime cases that had been ignored.And you know, they had these untested

(38:28):
rape kits. So if I'm notmistaken, my understanding of this is they
went out and they finally tested theserape kits recently. These about one hundred
of the DNA kits that they finallytested. They reviewed realized, hey,
we actually might be able to arrestsome of these people. Imagine being one
of the victims. Imagine being oneof the women or children that was a
victim of one of these sick people, knowing your DNA is sitting in a

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locker at the Houston Police station andthe only thing that's preventing them from using
that to go find the guy that'sresponsible for the crime is incompetence of local
elected officials, local non elected officials, the deep state of Harris County in
Houston, Texas, if you will. Anyway, it was a long introduction
to this segment, but Holly,what am I leaving out here? You

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know, this was such a disturbingsituation, and when this news first broke,
I remember thinking to myself, there'sno way that the police chief survives
this scandal. And sure enough,he did tender his resignation this week.
Initially, he had said that hedidn't know about the youth of this code
until twenty twenty one, and thathe of course was appointed by Mayor Turner,

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and that he had ordered staff tono longer use the code. But
as you noted, there was anews report this week that there's at least
one email indicating he knew about asearly as twenty eighteen. It is a
little ambiguous this email it refers toone of these cases, but it is
incredibly disturbing. But I think thatit's pretty obvious to anyone who's reading about

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this story, looking into the storythat it's not just Troy Finner. I
mean, it had to be manymany officers complicit in using this code.
And I think there's a lot ofconcern about what's happening in the culture at
Houston Police Department, and I thinkthat's something people can say while at the
same time supporting the police and supportingthe work that they do. This is

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just one of those examples of howwe have to be careful not to overgeneralize
about the police or any other professionsfor that matter. As you know,
they're not all good guys, andthey're not all bad guys, and they're
not necessarily bad guys that they usethis code, but it is super concerning
for the citizens of Houston and HarrisCounty, especially those victims. And you

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mentioned the more than four thousand adultsex crime incidents that were ended here,
and some of them may have legitimatelybeen suspended because they're you know, not
credible or something like that, butas they learn more, they are learning
that there were legitimate cases. Therehave been some new charges filed, and

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as you mentioned, you know,those sex crimes are horrific for victims.
It's really hard for them to comeforward and testify about these things and what
happened to them, and to justbe for all, you know, lack
of a better word, betrayed bythe authorities who are supposed to be enforcing
the law and trying to protect them. It's just so disheartening for these people.

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So your big development this week,of course, you know, Mayor
witt Meyer accepted the resignation of TroyFinner, and there are a lot of
questions about wit Meyer and how he'sgoing to go about replacing the police chief,
and he has not yet determined,he said, whether or not the
replacement will come from within the departmentor from outside of the department. But

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you know, a lot of peopleare suggesting that perhaps it would be better
to bring in someone from the outsidewho has not been a part of this
culture that has you know, suspendedall these cases. I think here it's
also important to note that the caseswere suspended under a code that was lack
of personnel. And you know,it does it's difficult as all this is,

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it does lend creatives to the ideathat we don't have enough staff in
the Houston Police Department, right andthat's a problem in police departments in many
other areas of country as well.They're having a hard time recruiting people because
of the atmosphere, because of thetreatment of police officers that we've seen.
You know, on the other sideof the coin, you've got to look

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at there are some bad cops.We had Gerald Goins, right, who
is still awaiting trial for murder forthe no Knock raid and kind of a
setup what appears to have been asetup of some people who were ultimately killed
in that raid and appropriately, So, you know, a lot to kind
of dissect here, right, Yeah, don't even get me started on the

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Gerald Goyns thing. But hey,I want to ask you about this.
I don't want to run out oftime in this segment, because there's at
least two more things I want toask you. One of the questions I
want to ask you is about thisacting Chief of Police, Larry soder White
is his name. He served asExecutive Assistant Chief of HPD. He oversaw
field operations. If you just hadto guess, is this guy a little
too close to Troy Finner and SylvesterTurner? Can he be trusted? What

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do you think? You know?He seems like a trustworthy guy, And
I just want to say I mean, Troy Finner, very likable, very
personable, Holly, I've ran anarda Arnavedo is a nice guy. Do
you want him to be police chiefagain? Exactly No. And that's the
point I was trying to make,is that you can have some guy who

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are just you know, they're mostlygood guys, very likable, but you
have to look at the policy andwhat happened here, and you know,
Satn White is probably too close tothe leader. I'm a nice guy.
I'm a nice guy, Holly,I'm fun at a party. I should
not be police chief. I don'twant to oversee. That's crazy, right,

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because because let's know what happened here. That's my concern about Larry.
What you just said is my concernabout Larry that he's too close to Troy
Finner. Because Finner announced that allthe sex time crime cases, all these
crazy cases had to be reviewed,and one hundred DNA hits just popped up
in the system. That means thatthere's one hundred creepy perverts out there who
raped and we could have done somethingabout it. And I don't know if

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you realize this, Holly, butthere are a lot of perverts in this
town. There's creepy, weird pervertsall over the place. There's perverts listening
to this radio show. There's pervertsfollowing Holly Hanson on social media, and
earlier today, earlier today, Holly, one of those perverts asked you to
say pictures of your feet? Trueor false? Uh? True. It's

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it's a great world out there,you know. I mean there's all kinds
of people with all sorts of interestsand such, and uh, you know,
it's sad in these cases, becauseI believe in one of these cases,
it's been revealed that no no,no, no no no no no
no no no no no no no, we're talking about these no, we're
talking about the footpick thing. Now, why did someone ask you for pictures

(45:27):
of your feet? I don't know. I you know, I Yeah,
we can't. We can't end theshow on rape kits. We have to
end the show on something funny andlighthearted somewhere. No, exactly exactly,
And just for the record, Ido not send pictures of my feet to
anyone or any other body parts.I don't. I don't, Holly.

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I there's a park near this radiostation called Memorial Park, and every day,
almost every day, I go there, and I run somewhere between three
and nine miles, depending on howmuch time I have, and my feet
are horrific. I at no pointdo I not have a blue toenail.
I got blisters. I don't knowthe difference between corns and bunions, and
I don't know the difference, butI know that whatever I have on my

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feet right now, nobody would wantto look at it, but somehow someone
probably does out there because that's howsick and twisted people are. Please do
not post pictures. Now. Ido get pedicures, so you know I
don't have that same issue, Butplease, dear God, do not post
pictures of your feet on social media, and do not send them to people.

(46:36):
Holly, I don't know why peopledo this stuff. I love you,
Holly. You're awesome. You didn'tdeserve what happened to you today.
That's weird. Holly's a good journalist. She doesn't deserve these stupid questions.
I'm asking her. You know whatshe does deserve, though, is for
you to follow her on social mediabecause she's a really good journalist and she
does awesome work. You can findher work at the TEXANDT News. I
love you, all. I lovemy friend Holly. God loves you,

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God loves all of us. Ihope you guys go to church this weekend,
have an awesome day. I willbe tonight. Where am I gonna
be today? I'm gonna be atthe Riot tonight. Check it as a
funny comedian in town, Jeffrey Asmus, if you see him there, if
you see me there, come buyme a beer. I'm happy to drink
it. You are listening to thePursuit of Happiness Radio. Tell the government

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to kiss your ass when you listento this show.