Current Revolt and Kenny Webster

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, Tony Ortiz here with Current Revolt, and I'm
not really sure what episode this is because it has
been months since I've recorded a podcast, and I thought
it would be nice to sit down with a very
very good friend of mine named Kenny Webster to talk
about a story that we kind of kind of collaborated
on to regarding this congressional candidate who is just such

(00:27):
a character. So for if you're tuning in for the
first time again, my name is Tony with Current Revolt,
where you're a Texas media organization that covers just Texas politics,
and I'm joined here by Kenny Webster, a morning radio host. Kenny,
tell people a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey, greetings, thanks for having me. You know, I started
off as a comedy writer and a DJ in Chicago,
where I started working on this legendary radio show called
The Man Cow Show when I was in college, and
that was a great start. From Man Cow is like
sort of like if Alex Jones was mixed with Howard's.
In fact, Alex Jones was a regular on our radio
show back in the two thousands, and that's another story

(01:05):
for another time. But did radio in Chicago through my twenties,
got offered this job in Texas producing a really big
morning show called The Walton and Johnson Show, and these
guys moved me down and made me a big part
of their program. It's a comedy, political comedy, you know,
probably very similar to a lot of the podcasts and
radio shows your audience already listens to, but a lot

(01:26):
of satire. And I got my own show, and then
the host of the morning show it's these two partners,
John Walton and Steve Johnson, radio broadcast legends. One of
them passed away about five six years ago at this point,
and we didn't know if the show would keep going
or not. Steve wanted to keep doing it, so he
asked me if I would sit in john seat and
our morning show. Somehow everybody was betting on us to lose.

(01:49):
And that's another long story I won't bore you with.
But like a lot of radio shows, when the host dies,
you don't expect it to keep continuing after that, but
it did. In fact, the audience is bigger now than
it's ever been. John built this great machine for us
to keep his legacy alive for him, and so today
we still continue to make a living reaching over a
million listeners a week, heckling and mocking and telling fart

(02:12):
jokes about some of the worst people in America, by
which I mean politicians, right.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And radio is so important, Like I you know, growing up,
I grew up in Chicago, as I believe you did too, right,
didn't you spend some time in Chicago?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's exactly right? Yeah, I was on the Man Cash Show,
Yeah right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Of course, I remember. I used to have to.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I used to listen to it, and I used to
get I think I used to get in trouble for
listening to it as a kid. This was just anyway.
But radio is so important, especially to like the conservative side,
because the conservatives, I still listen to radio, Like the
left owns Hollywood, right, and they kind of own the
the movie sphere space right, But the right owns radio.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
And yeah, it's such like an important tool.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
And I grew up listening to My father was the
only conservative in our family, and so getting taking to
school or like hanging out with my dad, he'd have
the radio on. And that's kind of how I got
my first like dip into like conservative politics was listening
to morning radio.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So super super important thing.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
And you know, like you, I feel so blessed that,
like we can make somewhat of a living at least
doing what we love, like talking about politics and talking
about satire, making jokes and just connecting with people. So
I'm really happy to have you on.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, dude, that's what I like about Current Revolt. You
guys are doing hard news, but it's funny. It's a
funny website. I mean, you guys have a sense of humor,
and you know, I know your audience already knows this.
But there are people out there, I mean, powerful, rich
people who hate Current Revolt and there's a they do
not like it, and they and there's a reason why,
you know, and and good they should hate it. They

(03:46):
should be very afraid of people like Tony Ortiz.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I appreciate that, you know. It's it's wild. I never
expected to kind of own my own business or to
run something like this. In fact, I was very political,
just man, maybe like fifteen years ago, like I just
didn't care about politics. And now here I am doing this.
So it's been it's been a wild time. But I

(04:09):
love it and I appreciate the kind words. So but yeah,
getting into I want to talk about a story that
you and I collaborated on and you brought to my attention.
Really uh And for listeners who haven't read us this week,
I published a story a few days ago. Actually we're
recording this here on a Thursday night, but I published

(04:30):
it on Wednesday, and it's about a congressional candidate named well,
she's nine different names, but we'll go by one of
her names, Chrissy Anne, also now known as Abe's Ava
z Alari, and she announced her run for Congress against
Dan Crenshaw and Kenny You you live in the district, right,
you live in Crenshaw's district.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'm okay, So to be clear, I live in Houston,
and District two is one of the places that our
morning show, I'm Out. We were on twenty radio stations
and you you're up and down. So in the Dallas
Fort Worth area, we're on eleven ninety where you are
with Jesse Kelly and Dana Lash and Michael Barry and
Clinton and Buck. It's a great radio station. But down

(05:10):
here in Houston, we are on a very similar radio
station called KPRC nine fifty, and we're the morning show
for District two. If you're in District two. There's three
or four talk radio stations that reach your area, and
I would like to think we're one of the most popular.
For sure. There's two stations in Houston, KPRC and KTRH

(05:31):
that are both owned by iHeartMedia and Michael Berry's the
Morning show on one. It's a little bit like Fox
News and Fox Business. You hear a lot of posts
on both stations, and they use our content and we
use theirs. So anyway, it's a long winded way of saying, like,
District two is very interesting to me because I cover
the politics that it's twenty minutes from here, to put

(05:52):
it bluntly, you know, and it's part of our listening
audience for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And like even if you don't live in the district,
people know if you're in politics, or if you're at
least somewhat interested in politics, Like you know who Dan
Crenshaw is, and you know, I think I speak pretty
honestly when the most most of the conservative right and
I identify as conservative right, we don't. We're not a
fans of Dan Dan Crenshaw, Like he's a moderate and
he's kind of a warmonger, and that's probably putting it

(06:18):
very nicely, and I think you could. You probably would
reflect the same.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Way, right.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh yeah, I mean I back in twenty nineteen, I
was uninvited from speaking events for young I'm a millennial
like you. I'm not a kid anymore, but you know,
a lot of my audience's younger right wing men. And
I was uninvited from speaking events because I wasn't a
big fan of Dan Crenshaw. I was asked to open
up for him as a speaker at the twenty nineteen

(06:44):
Texas Young Republicans convention. I was going to talk and
then he was going to talk. And that was the
night I learned that this guy is just an arrogant prick.
Can I swear on this show?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Whether yeah, please do?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, I don't swear a lot because I do you know,
terrestrial broadcasting. But the guy is a complete a whole.
Like I forget about politics for just a minute. I've
been around Dan Crenshaw. I've met the guy he is.
He's an ego main he's exactly what you think a
politician would be like. When the microphones and the cameras
are turned off, I remember that we were waiting for
he was the keynote speaker, and we were waiting for

(07:15):
the dinner to happen that night, and everybody's waiting in
line to get their food at the I forget where.
It was the Marriotte Downtown or the Hilton, you know,
one of those places. And Dan comes in and he goes,
I want to talk, and they're like, all right, you'll
be speaking in an hour and a half. We're going
to do dinner, and then there's a couple other people
speaking and then you'll speak. And Dan goes, nah, I
got to get out of here. I want to be somewhere.

(07:37):
Let me talk now. And granted, there's like a thousand
people there. It's the state convention for the you know,
the annual Texas Young Republicans Convention Tony, So there's people
people have traveled from all over the state to hear
Dan talk. They're waiting in line with their plates to
get served up, you know, slices of roast beef and
ham and that sort of thing. And Dan steps up

(07:59):
to the mic and just starts talking. They asked me
to introduce him, and I did, and it was quick
and blunt because he's in a hurry. And I remember
thinking like wow, what a jackass, dude. There are people
that flew here tonight to listen to you talk, and
you can't even wait for them to get out of
dinner line, you know what I mean. Like they're they're
holding their plates, everyone's standing in line. It's the most
awkward thing. He talks for fifteen minutes, leaves and then

(08:22):
they turned to the rest of us that are supposed
to speak, and they're like, okay, your turn. It's like, well,
that's that's odd. Why don't we wait for everyone to
sit down and eat and then we'll do it the
way we were going to It was a very awkward night,
and that was the first time I realized I don't
like Dan Crenshaw. And then we started looking at his
voting record. I mean, you know, everybody knows the story
about the five hundred million dollars COVID vaccine database or

(08:43):
whatever that that he wanted to support. And even his friend,
what is it a Marcus Latreux, a local right wing
lawmaker that some people associate with the neocon movement. Marcus
is a nice enough guy. Even he called him out
on it. There's a story about it on Texas scorecard
dot com and of course he signaled support for red
flag laws and then walked it back. And everybody's heard
that story before. And there's all kinds of stories about

(09:05):
his suspicious, weird relationships with people in the military industrial complex.
You know, odd rumors around Capitol Hill, inside the Beltway
in Washington, d C. About people coming to meet with him.
And I don't want to get sued or anything, so
I'm not even going to swim into that part of
the deep end. But let's just say that this guy
has a weird relationship with a lot of big money

(09:28):
donors from the military industrial complex. So if there's a
bill to send money around the world, you can bet
guys like John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham
and that jackass up in Oklahoma, they're all going to
vote with Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw is the John Cornyn
of the House. And you know, he's the one Republican
that will hang out with the liberal Democrats. He'll sit

(09:49):
any swampy, murky bill that you wouldn't want him to
vote for, he'll vote for it. But then when you
get close to the midterms, when you get close to
the general election, suddenly he's a maga ca. I always
find it interesting how people act right after they get
re elected. You remember, here in our you know, our
own state of Texas, John Cornyn was not allowed to
speak at the state I mean, he was booed at

(10:12):
the state convention a couple of years back because he
passed a gun control bill. A Texas senator, the senior
Senator of Texas, was the sponsor of a gun control
bill that was signed by John Cornyn. And you know,
a lot of people assume Dan Crenshaw's the next John Cornyn.
They're practically twins, you know what I mean, right, And like.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Knowing all this, you think that it would be easy
to primary this guy and replace him.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
But it hasn't been.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
He's you know, I was looking at past records, like
he's faced a primary opponent ever since he's been elected,
and they all lose. And I attribute some of it
to just you got some goofy people running against him,
and that kind of brings us to where we're at now,
and this is we've got this lady that cannon kick
kind of came out of nowhere, and you know, because

(11:03):
you brought her to my attention, so you saw her
startup before I did it. Maybe you can tell the story.
But like she's announced her or she announced her run
against Dan Crenshaw, So how did you first come across her?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, so to be clear, And I hate hyperbole, I
hate sensationalism, I hate Nazi analogies and politics. I feel
like we need to choose our words carefully when I
tell you what I am about to say, Tony, I've
been doing this political comedy stand up comedy, you know,
parody on the radio, making fun of politicians, making fun
of politics for a living for about twenty years, but

(11:36):
roughly since I finished college back in the early two thousands.
Ava Zallari aka Chrissy Ann aka all of her other
weird names that she has is probably the worst Republican
primary candidate I've ever seen in my life, the most suspicious,
the most peculiar, the most bizarre Republican primary candidate I
have ever met. Right, I've ever come across this woman.

(11:59):
The short VERSI. The story goes like this, Houston's a
big city, but it's a small community for politics. We
all know each other kind of like all the bloggers
know each other, all the radio people know each other,
all all the stand up comics in Texas know each other.
Everybody in the political scene in Texas District two seems
to know each other. Usually people don't just come out
of nowhere. So I'm on Twitter X. I'm on, well,

(12:20):
X is what it's called. If Chuck Growsley can call
it X, and he's ninety three, I can call it X.
A little while back, I'm on this is less than
a month ago, Tony. I'm on X. And I see
that there's a space, a public chat room for a
political candidate, and the name of the room is me
meet Dan Crenshaw's new primary opponent. Exclamation mark, American flag,

(12:41):
that sort of thing. And I click into the room
and I begin to listen to a conversation, and I'm
immediately struck by a few things. The first thing that
I noticed is the first thing that sorry, the janitor
just walked in here. That's what'snnoy? Did you hear that?
In the background. I'm at the radio station at night,
and so some guy just walked in here with a
vacuum in a mask. They just scared the shit out

(13:02):
of me. Anyway, Sorry, So the story goes like this,
So I jump into the space and The first thing
I immediately noticed is I've never heard of this person,
and I know everyone in district too, Tony, So you know,
that's a little odd. And the candidate has a first name.
It's it's like like sort of like Mark Wayne Mullin
up in Oklahoma. This woman's name is Chrisianne. It's two
words jam together, but no last name like share or

(13:25):
something like, wait, your name's just Chrisianne. What's your last name?
No last name, just Chrisianne. And she has an AI
generated profile photo. Now AI is not new, it's been
around for a few years. We can tell when a
photograph is fake.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, I want to talk about them for a single
whole because like you and I can tell because we're millennials, okay,
and I'm going to make my boomer listeners upset. But
the boomers cannot handle AI like they think it's real.
They can't discern whether or not AI is real or
if it's fake.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
They just can't. They can't sense it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
And so you know, I remember showing her profile picture
to a couple boomer friends of mine and they were like, Wow,
she's beautiful, and I'm like, bro, like it's fake. And
they're like, wow, really, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
like you know, so sorry?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Continue, but yeah, no, how could you know? You're right?
How do people not know? And that there's a much
longer conversation to be had there about older people that
missed out on the digital revolution. But now they're in
their sixties or seventies, they're retiring, they have money and time,
and they're trying to get into social media. They like politics,
but they missed out on learning all this stuff, Tony,

(14:34):
they missed out and just how does the system work?
They don't know. This guy's worked in the shipping industry
for forty years. Now he has time for X and podcasting.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It really isn't you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Like they watched Sean Hannity for years and they think, oh,
I understand this. I'm gonna get into politics. And that's
who her supporters are. People older, no offense older people,
but like older people that don't know what the hell
they're talking about. And it's a shame. And that's not
to say that all older people that are into politics
are idiots, but that's her demographic is like lonely, divorced
older men who are right leaning and have a very

(15:05):
low IQ. That's who are audience.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
He's a demographic for what I believe she's maybe trying
to pull off, right.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh yeah, that's that's writing on the wall here for
what we're about to discover about her, which is a
big giant what looks like I don't want to get
suit here, but certainly what seems like a big giant
scam that she's been pulling on a very specific kind
of person, which I've just described to you, and so sorry, yeah,
oh yeah, that's okay. So in the space, I hop
into the space and it's just people like you and me,

(15:31):
Tony average x users are asking her questions, and immediately
a few things occur to me. They're asking her questions
about Dan Crenshaw's many scandals, Like there's a viral video
of him where it sounds like he's saying Jesus isn't
real and she doesn't she's not aware of that video.
And there's another viral video of him at a town
hall in district too, where a young female voter is
asking him about that video and she's and he snaps

(15:53):
at her. Now, a lot of your listeners who are
real into Texas politics have probably seen one of, if
not both, of those videos. They're easy to find, that
been circulating on social media for years now. She's not
aware of any of those videos, which is weird. You
want to primary this guy, but you don't know about
any of his obvious clickbait scandals that kind of thing.
Not aware of his support for the military industrial complex,

(16:16):
his relationship with APAC, which you know, this isn't even
about APAC. But if you don't know what APAK is,
you probably shouldn't be running for Congress because you're going
to need to navigate the Israel lobby. You're going to
need to navigate the Ukraine lobby. You know, Lockheed Martin
raytheon things like that. You're going to need to know
what those things are in order to go to Washington,
d C. And have an intelligent conversation. She doesn't know

(16:37):
any of these things, Tony, and it's like, wow, well
why are you running? And someone asks her that she says, well,
a bunch of military veterans said they needed me to
primary Crenshaw. Who needed you to? Who needed someone that
doesn't know anything about the candidate? You just know that
he's unpopular, that's all you seem to know about the guy,
and you know that he's unpopular on social media, but

(16:57):
you don't know anybody in district too. You're suspicious, fake
profile name, unaware of what you're doing, no real explanation
for where you came from. So I raised my hand
in the space to ask a question, and I ask
a really simple question, Tony. And this is where the
fire start. This is the domino effect. In less than
a month of Kenny Webster and Tony Ortiz and you know,

(17:18):
tea party activists like Donnie Ferguson and Rolando Garcia and
so many other established members of this community asking questions
about this woman and finding weird answers. And my first
question was this, Tony, do you live in District two? Yeah?
I live in District two, she says. I was like,
how long have you lived in District two? And she said, ah,
a few years. And immediately I get kicked out of

(17:39):
the space, Tony I get. I'm like, well, well that's interesting.
There's that's the most obvious, like, huh, you don't live
in the community. You could have said you lived and
near it a weird answer, and then I'm ushered away,
not even allowed to continue to listen. I don't handle
this well. I'm a you know I do this. I
do talk radio for a living. I troll politicians for
a living. I have time. Most people don't have time

(18:00):
to do what you and I do, Tony. We get
paid to do this. We get paid to pick around
on social media and research things and write tweets and
write wise cracks and make podcasts, to make blog posts.
Most people don't have time for that. Immediately, I'm curious,
who is this woman? And I reach out to other
people and we all start asking questions, and we look
up help me out. I hope I'm using the right

(18:21):
term for this. Not her paper that she registered to run,
but her pack registration.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Am I explaining to this.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think it's like her declaration to run and her committee,
her committee that she chose to help her get started.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Essentially, so we look that up. This candidate. I didn't
even look it up. A friend of mine did that
works in Washington, DC. And I didn't even ask him to.
He just did it because he was there as well,
asking the same questions as me. And we we look
it up and we see, huh, California area code a
home address that is not in district too, it's near
district too, it's not in district too, And her and

(18:56):
her office for her campaign is a PO box in
Austin Tech Like, that's weird. You know you don't live
in Austin. Why do you have a PO box in Austin, Texas? Well?
Why wouldn't you just get a PO box near your
house or in district too? PO boxes aren't expensive. I
don't want to jump around too much in the story here,
but we come to find out that pobox is like

(19:16):
a public service that Ken Paxton offers to domestic violence victims.
And it's my understanding, and I could be explaining this wrong,
but you don't have to prove you're a domestic violence
victim to get one. If you feel like you're in danger,
the state of Texas will provide you with a mailing
address where you can have things sent so people can't
find you, right.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
But basically, yeah, you need to you need to prove
that you have like a case open or have been
granted a temporary restraining order, which is commonly known as
a TRO. And for those listening, I don't want to
get too much into it. Getting a TRO is incredibly easy.
I mean, Kenny, I could you could get a tro I.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Mean tomorrow if you really really wanted to write.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
And so she was at one point granted a tro
and we'll get into that later. So she qualified for this.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Program, right, yeah. So I'm message her and I'm like, Hey,
what is the deal, dude? Are you a real are you?
My first thought, Tony is that this isn't even a
real person. She's giving a lot of short, weird answer.
It sounds like AI her photos, AI, her face isn't real.
We can't look her up online. We look around. Do
you know how hard it is to not have a

(20:20):
digital fingerprint. There's nothing on the internet. You don't have
nothing out there, just Chrissy and there's no there's no
Facebook for you, there's never You've never like immediately, it's
just weird. We can't google you. And so my first
thought is I think, is this a Chinese bot? Is
this software? Is this even a real person? For me
to question if you're a real person, like, not even

(20:42):
a real person, You've got to be pretty suspicious looking.
And so I message her. I hit her up, but
she says the weirdest thing to me, Tony. She says, Hey, listen,
it's it's it's it's it's not what you think. I'm
not a scam artist. I'm not a fraud. I'm paraphrasing here.
I've got the message in my DM somewhere. In fact,
why don't I just read it to you. It's an
it's I haven't looked at this in a while, you know,
weeks at a couple weeks. At this point, she messages

(21:04):
me online and goes, hey, Kenny, can I call you?
And I say sure, and I give her the call
in number for our morning show eight six'. SIX i LOVE.
Wj it's a toll free. Number and she, REPLIES i,
said call us right. Now we're on the. Radio we
will give you airtime for your congressional. Campaign our, morning
my afternoon show has tens of thousands of. Listeners it
can be heard In, houston and we have podcasts. Downloads,

(21:26):
obviously the morning show is. Massive it's on the radio
In georgia And. Oklahoma it's the biggest thing In New.
Orleans it's. Massive she immediately replies and, says, no this
conversation needs to be, private AND i, GO i don't
think you're ready to run for. Office you don't you
can't have a. Conversation she sends me this long message
about having a backbone and ethics and courage and the political,

(21:46):
establishment and she, says you're a smart. GUY i respect
that you need to Understand i'm a domestic violence. Victim
And i'm, like that doesn't make any. Sense if you're
a domestic violence victim who needs to hide your, identity
you wouldn't be running For. Congress that's an insane thing to.
Say there are three reasons to change your. Name you got,
married you went into witness protection OR i don't know
what the other thing, is what would or you're a scam?

(22:08):
Artist like what else could there?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Be? Right and you would, think like if you're running for,
office being invited Like Willie neely to be on one
of the an incredibly successful talk radio show is like
a golden, Ticket like why wouldn't you that'sh LIKE i
would you would stop everything you're doing to be, like, yes,
please let's let's let's get on and.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Talk you, know publicists charge candidates money to get on
shows like, ours and they charge them, hundreds if not
thousands of, dollars and we don't book a lot of
GUESTS i will book a guest if it's a fascinating
Per we Had Congressman Wesley hunt on. Today Ken paxton's
been on the, Show Tony buzby The, attorney going After Sean,
Puff Daddy combs or. Whatever you, know people Like Ted,

(22:47):
Cruz Charlie. Daniels we don't let a lot of people
on the. Show but this to me was, Interesting like
you're a you're AN ai? Generator is are you even?
Real are you In? China she will not do the,
Interview and to, THAT i, say THEN i think you're
a scam. ARTIST i don't think you should be running For.
Congress we don't know who you. Are are you a real?
Person get involved in local in the local, scene run

(23:09):
for a local, office support a local. Charity we all
know each. OTHER i know all the, charities the right
wing conservative. Causes no one's ever heard of. You you're
not going to be our champion to take Down Dan
crenshaw with your fake. Photo she blocks, Me she accuses
me of. Defamation i'm, like this is, crazy. Lady so
we keep picking around here and looking into, it and

(23:31):
we start to discover more and more weird things about,
her and we're posting about them On, twitter and it
was around this TIME i THINK i brought it to
your attention and a handful of other people's. Attention this
person is clearly up to. Something when there's, smoke there's, Fire,
tony you don't want us to know your last. Name
so we look it up. Online we find out her
real name Is Ava, zalari but she's running for office
under the Name Christy ann For. Congress it's, like, well

(23:53):
wait a, second you can't run for office under a
different name than your real. Name Donnie, ferguson a tea
party activist that used to work For Congressman Steve, stockman
points that out On, twitter and she immediately goes and
changes the file, around so It's Ava ava quote Unquote
Christianne zalari For. Congress, like immediately what goes and changes
the paperwork because she's finding out the rules from her

(24:16):
critics On. Twitter, Tony i've never seen anything like this.
Before it's it's insane to. Me so as this goes,
on and obviously this Is i'm making the story longer
than it needs to, be So i'll get to the punchline,
here she starts accusing us of, defamation starts telling us
We're doxinger starts saying she's gonna sue. Us and here's
where shit hits the fan for. Me i'm in the
park about two weeks, ago jogging. AROUND i run a,

(24:38):
lot you, know And i'm real fired. Up i'm amped,
up AND i get a text from somebody and it, says, hey, dude,
chick that weird chick On twitter is accusing you of
working For Dan crenshaw And blackrock and the, cartels the.
Cartels what does that even? Mean like which, cartel the golf,
Cartel Los, Aetas, Sineloa they're not all the. Same you

(24:59):
don't work like there's a lobbyist for the. Cartels you
don't work for them. All they're at war with each.
Other what a dumb thing to. Say that's the kind
of thing that somebody that watches too MUCH hbo would,
say this person works for the. Cartels it's, like you
don't work for the crips and the. Bloods you more
on like you, were you know WHAT i? Mean so
that that really that irked. Me i've never been accused

(25:19):
of working For Dan crenshaw. Before for, YEARS i was
somebody that was uninvited from things BECAUSE i Criticized Dan
crenshaw and now you're suggesting That i'm an operative for.
Him so that was when we decided we wanted to
confront her about. This she was invited to The Cypress
Tea party a little over a week ago to speak
at a barbecue joint out in the. Suburbs and it's

(25:41):
not you, Know i'm in the, city so it's easy
for me to get to any of these Suburban republican congressional.
Districts hop in my, car drive out there with one
of the news guys from our from our, NEWSROOM ktrh,
newsroom a young kid named name Named, ethan real smart,
guy And ethan's gonna videotape. It he's going to do
a story about this for our for our news. Channel
down the, hall our sister. Station and you, know we walk.

(26:02):
In everybody Knows i'm going to be. There everyone Knows
Ethan buchanan's, There Kenny webster FROM, Kprc Ethan buchanan FROM.
Ktrh one of them's a talk show, host the others
a journalist and. Reporter immediately It's i'm basically kicked. Out,
Immediately wait a, second you can ask one question and
only one. QUESTION i was, like, Well i've got a
lot to say about this. Woman i've never had a

(26:24):
congressional candidate go on social media before and accuse me
of being in Black rock or working For Dan. Crenshaw and,
oh by the, WAY i forgot to Mention. Tony she
told people On twitter if they see me in the,
streets they should kick my, ass like she said, that
and then she said it was a. Joke and then
she tried to campaign off of that video Where Tucker,
Carlson Dan crenshaw on a hot mic says he wants

(26:44):
to Kill Tucker, Carlson, like you can't Criticize Dan crenshaw
for calling violence against a member of the media who
criticizes him when you just did, that you. Hypocrite SO
i get. Kicked half the people at The Cyprus tea
party meeting want me to be, there half of, them
don't you. Know it's, like all, right, Fine i'm trying
to protect you boomers from a scam, artist AND i

(27:06):
was gonna let it. Go after, that we, left we moved,
on and a couple days, LATER i find ON X
i'm being contacted by members of her family and it's
almost as Though. Tony there's a support group not just
around the, state not just around the, country but around
the world of people that claim that they've been scammed
by this, woman or screwed over or for whatever. Reason

(27:27):
the way that her own family member described family members
describe it is that this is a woman who changes
her name all the, time is constantly taking, money borrowing,
money owing people, money scamming people out of. Money that's
how they describe. It to. Me i'm not Suggesting i've
seen her bank records or THAT i but isn't it odd, that,
like there's people In california saying, this people In texas saying.

(27:49):
This none of these people knew each other before they encountered,
her other than her own, sister but they all have
this one thing in. Common they keep in touch with
each other because this, woman who has nine, aliens which
is something that you, discovered owed the, money screwed the
amount of, money took advantage of their, kindness whatever it may.
Be her own sister gets on the phone with us

(28:10):
and says something that floored. ME i never heard anybody
say this. Before she, says are you in the. Media i'm, like,
yeah she, Says i've been waiting for someone from dateline
to call me for. Years, No, tony nobody's ever said
anything like that to me. Before i'm, like what do
you mean you've been waiting. Dateline she's, like. Yeah there
are men all over the, country all over the world
who think that my sister is a scam artist and

(28:32):
she may be married to more than one person at a.
Time she's a big. Amiss she changes her name all the,
time multiple credit. Cards and that was WHEN i, thought
if she did something, illegal WHICH i don't, KNOW i
want to get a real journalist. Involved And Tony ortiz
is a regular contributor to my afternoon show In. Houston
we cover a lot Of texas And houston. Politics AND i,
thought you, Know tony is a guy who has taken

(28:54):
down some corrupt. Politicians he is a guy that has
taken down some people in poled and in a funny
way cut hard AND i just, thought you, KNOW i
know a lot of, journalists BUT i don't think there's
any more more qualified for this Than. Tony and why
don't you take over the story from, Here, tony Because
i'd love to hear your perspective from this, Point.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
And so, admittingly you send it over AND i look
at it and we get so many, tips you, know
AND i my initial thought, is this is this this
is just a goofy boomer that's just running for. Office
that's just gonna grift and she's gonna lose because that, happens.
Right you get these people that want to run for.
Office they think that there's some sort of internet. Celebrity

(29:32):
we know a few maybe the first name starts as
the t ends with AN, m and, uh they're kind
of a big internet celebrity and they get a lot of.
Attention but then they run and it's like not one
hundred percent of serious, run, Right and AND i thought
it was just. THAT i was, Like, okay this is
just like an internet celebrity chick that's like running for.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Office AND i.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Call, HER i ACTUALLY i actually call her up, right
and she tells me that the REASON i attempt to
pull a voting register record and a that AND i
can't find.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It and she tells, me, well you.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Know i'm a domestic violence victim and that's the reason
why you can't pull.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
It blah blah.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
BLAH i don't even believe that Because i've never heard
of this. Program and she's very good on the, phone
she's very. Sincere she didn't, stutter she didn't LIKE i,
mean she struggled to answer basic policy.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Questions but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Anything abnormal for somebody who was pulling this kind of.
Grift and SO i end my conversation with, her And i'm, like,
yeah this is just some goofy lady. Grifting AND i
look up the program right to see, if like there's
an actual program that exists for, this and like you mentioned,
earlier there's this program by The Attorney general and what's
it called, Here it's called The Address Confidentiality, program like

(30:41):
we talked, about and she's part of that and it
protects your identity and among other. Things And i'm, like, okay,
WELL i guess she's telling the. Truth and SO i
kind of, ADMITTINGLY i kind of.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Like blow it.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Off i'm just, like this is a boo boofy boomer.
Lady but then more and more starts to come out,
right AND i can't. Remember maybe you can remind. ME
i can't remember what the catalyst. WAS i think it
was when the family contacted. You, yes it was is
when the family contacted. YOU i started telling you some
things and you passed it over AND i was, like, okay,
yeah this is this is, serious, right.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, YEAH i was gonna give up on the whole.
Thing and then we come to find out like there's
a somebody that works at a courthouse In california that
has a dossier on this. Woman and then her ex
husband was an interesting character for if anyone is from From,
houston you probably know this. Story but back in the,
day back in two thousand and, one there was this
woman Named Andrea. Yates And Andrea yates was a mom

(31:32):
who murdered all five of she drowned all five of her,
kids and it was a national news story at the,
time but people In houston really remember. It and one
of the people that she was accused that Not Andrea,
yates but this political candidate of scamming is the first,
responder the firefighter who showed up and discovered these dead.
Babies These so this was a guy from the community

(31:53):
that was somewhat well known among Local christians and people
IN ptsd support groups and stuff like. That and the
way that the story explain to me was she preyed on,
him like she she seduced him and married him and
then like the way he describes it is she took
advantage of, him she took things from him and left.
Him and this is sort of a repeated the way

(32:13):
that it was described to us over and over again
from people in her personal, life is she's done this
all over the. World she flew To india and did.
This her own family thinks she's been married at least
five four or five six. Times they don't know how many.
Times tony figured out she's had nine different, aliases either
legal names or like personas on the. Internet, Now, TONY

(32:33):
i think a lot of us Like I'm, Kenny Kenneth,
ken you, know but like that's basically the same Name You're,
Tony you're Probably. Anthony this woman calls Herself ava And
kristen And chrissian and.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Like she crazy And, caesar.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Multiple more than One indian last, name you know WHAT i?
Mean like her last name was, like like how Many
indian Name you're not Even? Indian how Many indian last
names do you? Have and people start sending us photos
from her weddings and divorced. Documents and this is a
woman that had described herself over and over again as
being a domestic violence of, victim and you were one

(33:09):
of the first people to notice. It when we look
through the documents and the, paperwork would you say she
was a?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Victim, well that's what was, interesting, Right so she clearly
or she had at LEAST i think she's part of this.
PROGRAM i didn't even bother to try the pir open
records request this information from her BECAUSE i, assume since
it's part of some protection program that they wouldn't give
it to. Me but you, KNOW i, assume giving her
the benefit of, Doubt i'm gonna assume that she's telling
me the, truth which is probably a, mistake But i'm

(33:34):
going to assume that she's telling me the truth and
she's part of this. Program and, then like we said,
earlier the bar for getting into this program is pretty. Low,
well you, KNOW i start doing background and pulling police
reports and records on previous divorces and all this, stuff
AND i find out that she was involved in two
domestic violence issues scenarios regarding one ex husband. Each so

(33:57):
two separate ex, husbands, okay both of the both of
The american, ones not The indian. Ones, okay because she's
got a lot of. Husbands there's like husbands and so
the first, one which was back in like two. Thousand
i'm looking here two thousand and. Seven these are all,
allegations by the, way for everything we're talking, about these
are all.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Allegations, yeah these are just how people explained it to,
us you know Where this is how it was explained
to us by people directly connected to.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Her.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Right and SO i find this police report from out
of out Of, California Beaumont Police, department out Of, California, Beaumont,
california and it says here that the police officer's writing
this report Says Kay, hudson because she went By Christine
Ann hudson at the, time admitted to me that she
became in rage at the. Victim the victim was her,
husband and quote went, wild began striking him with her

(34:45):
fists and. Fingernails and she admitted that she did not
sustain any, injuries and she admitted to punching. Him and
she states here that she punched him approximately fifty times
in thirty. Seconds, Okay and so the officer arrested, her
arrested her and charged her with corporal injury to a. Spouse,

(35:07):
Okay and she was booked into.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Jail.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Okay so that's the first domestic violence, incident all, right
a domestic violence incident where she was the perpetrator of, this, Right,
Okay so skipping past that, now let's go to the
second domestic violence, incident which was the most recent one
here In. Texas and she was married to the firefighter
we were. Talking actually they were both, firefighters which is

(35:32):
also an interesting part of this.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Story multiple, firefighters according to her own. Sister she's memorized
how the public servant pension plan, works according to her
own family, members and she marries these men and then
takes part of their pension and leaves. Them now that's
how it was explained to. Us we have no idea
if that's really what's happening in her. Head but you
got to admit marrying multiple firefighters and then getting part

(35:54):
of their, pension if, true that's. CRAZY i would have
never even thought of.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
That, yeah most people have a physical, type and her
physical types all over the. Place she's Got indian, men
she's got White american. Men she's got at least got
a career, type and it's definitely. Firefighter and so you,
know this second incident with The texan, man Mister hudson
out of out Of houston, area out of The houston. Area
she called nine one one on him and and and

(36:19):
alleged that he had assaulted. Her, okay this is while
they were. Married police come, out they arrest Mister, hudson
and Uh. Hudson hudson tells, me, Sorry i'm using used
the Wrong, No i'm, Sorry i'm using the wrong name
this entire. Time there's so many marriages.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
That i've got.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
McClellan that's the. One tim. McClellan revisa is a guy
From texas.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Guy i'm.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Sorry, yeah, okay let's just call Him texas. Guy, Yeah texas.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy so The texas, guy you, know gets the police
called on him in their in their in the most recent.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Marriage police come. Out revisa tells.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Me The texas guy tells me that the police are
so aggressive with the way they arrest him that he
actually gets his orbital eye socket cracked, broken and so
he gets he gets hurt pretty.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Bad and mind, you this is a guy that a
lot of people squeaky clean legal, Record i'm, told and
this is somebody from The houston area that a lot
of people regard as being a. Hero he was the
one that Discovered Andrea yates's dead. Children it's a national news.
Story he's not just some guy from the. Community he's
a public servant and a first responder that a lot
of people in this community revere as a.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Hero and SO i pulled the police, report and sure
enough he was. Arrested and THEN i come to find
out the state Of texas filed a motion to. Dismiss
they decided to drop it because there was. Nothing and
in the divorce records THAT i, pulled there was never
any mention of. Abuse he actually gave her money as
part of an agreement to, separate, right she got her

(37:46):
share of. Things and of course this is a side,
note but the court ordered her to change her name
back To kristin and And, oberg So christi And. Oberg
but the sum of all that is that in the
first marriage she was the assault, person that she was
somebody who committed. Assault and in the second, marriage the
ex husband got.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
No charges for. That the cards were.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Dropped so she was never actually any much at least
according to court records THAT i found a victim of domestic.
Violence so but this is something And i'm sure you've seen.
It when she does These twitter. Spaces at these interviews with,
people she constantly cites that she is a victim of domestic,
violence and at least based on the documents That i've,

(38:31):
pulled there's no evidence for.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That and you, know it's funny about. That something that
domestic violence abusers will often do is tell their, victims
if you report, me if you tell, Anyone i'm gonna
sue you for. Defamation it. Is that is textbook behavior
for domestic violence, abusers and that's exactly what she does
to journalists and activists on social media that asks questions about. Her,

(38:54):
Hey i'm just saying that's very it's really on the,
nose that's All i'm.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Saying, yeah and here here's what's.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Interesting, Okay and we're getting long in, Time so for
our listeners that are holding on TO i want to
kind of summer up a little bit more of. It
so there's all of these, allegations, RIGHT i start to
research it AND i get really deep into, this. RIGHT
i SPENT i probably spent probably a total maybe about
eighteen hours straight on this, story just making sure that

(39:21):
everything was on the dot and pulling, documents pulling to
putting it, together drafting the, article, right all, that and
over the time of pulling of doing all, THIS i
find out she has nine different names that she's gone
by right, wow with multiple spellings of some of the same.
Name she has one that she was born, with one
for a husband that she was married out Of, california
one that she just went by on social media by

(39:43):
the last Name caesar and sometimes spelled, incorrectly one when
she was married to An indian, man Another indian last
name THAT i can't find any association, with one when
she was married To Ammanny, houston and then one she
just started using, recently and then another one that WHERE
I i think.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
She just misspelled.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
It she went By Ava zari for some, reason so
it was not Even Ann, zelari it was Just.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Ava it was almost like she hadn't decided what name
to go with, yet so she came up with, that.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Right and So i'm finding all this, stuff, right And
i'm finding all these documents and then, PEOPLE i find
her wedding photos from her idiot wedding and they're pretty.
Hilarious and you, know my goal with this is just
to discover the. Truth i'm not out here to destroy people's.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Lives i'm not out.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Here To, no we wanted this woman to be a good.
CANDIDATE i might remind anyone listening to. This we want
A Dan crenshaw primary opponent that'll. Win that's why we
were interested in.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
It AND i remember even telling you.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
THIS i was, LIKE i just want the truth out
of this because it's so, Odd LIKE i just want.
Answers and SO i drapped all this, UP i get
all my questions AND i call, Her, okay here's something
THAT i didn't write in the, article which is pretty.
Funny so for anybody listening now this laid it to
it's pretty little bonus for. YOU i call her. Okay, now,
REMINDER i have called her. Before we have text message,

(41:00):
history so this isn't the first Time i've called her.
Okay BUT i call her again the day before the
article to get comment and to ask her questions SO
i could get her, full, transparent hopefully honest truth to the.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Story and.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
She answers the phone just, hello AND i say, Hey
Chrissy ann and she, goes who is This AND i, said, oh,
hey It's Tony Ortiz Current revolt and she's, like this isn't,
Her this isn't, her but it is what and she's,
like you've GOT i showed something along lines if you've got.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
The wrong, number.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Okay And i'm like And i'm, like BUT i. Don't
AND i start. Laughing i'm actually start. Laughing i'm, like
BUT i.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Don't like we've told it's not the nineteen. Eighties your
numbers in my, PHONE i know how to read. You,
Yeah and she's, like you need.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
To lose my.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Number i'm, like, okay, okay so like this is, you,
right AND i, said, well maybe it's. YOU i don't
know you're going By Ava zelari today and she's just,
like what do you? Want And i'm, like, WELL i
have some questions about your about your, history And i've
talked to some people And i'm writing a bigger. Story
i'm like to talk to you about. It and she's, like,
WELL i have nothing to say to.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
You And i'm, like, okay well that's a good. Sign,
Yeah AND i.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Said, well, LOOK i want to get your side of the,
story so you, know if you change your, mind let me.
KNOW i have a deadline of ELEVEN pm. Tonight AND
i think WHEN i called her was like two o'clock
or three. O'CLOCK i, said just give me a call
back or shoot me a, text, right and so SHE
i think she texts me. Back she, goes after talking
to my campaign, manager it's our. Team our, team she,

(42:27):
says team has decided that the best course of action
is to communicate with you through. Email please send me an.
EMAIL i, said, Okay i'll send you the interview questions over.
Email SO i sent her a pretty big, questionnaire very,
detailed asking her everything she was accused, of, right the
multiple names to clarify her legal, name the multiple, divorces
The indian whether or not she's still married to This indian,

(42:49):
guy because based off of court records that we all looked,
at she's very very likely still married to This indian.
Guy she never finished the divorce from this.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
As far as we could, tell, right, Right. Yeah the
other weird stuff, too like a lawsuit involving a repo
guy taking her car and she tried to. Sue there's
so much stuff we couldn't even include in this report
because we didn't know it was just weird.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Allegations but really could do a DATELINE, nbc like one
hour long show on this, thing, Okay, Right and SO
i asked her all these questions in very detailed fashion
and a lot and they're all open ended so she
can explain or deny or, whatever, right AND i take
it takes quite a long time drafting this questionnaire for,
her AND i email to her AND i see her
campaign manager okay or? Whoever, yeah well her campaign manager

(43:35):
is a real person coming, okay who by the, way skipping,
ahead she dropped like she quit her. Campaign her, campaign oh,
okay after our, story and so her campaign, manager oh,
Sorry SO i sent her this questionnaire and maybe like
two hours, later she emails me back and she just,
Says i'm very disappointed That i'm being targeted as a
domestic violence.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Victim i'm not gonna basically.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
To, summarize it's Like i'm not gonna answer your. Questions
And i'm just, like, okay and so email your. Back i'm, like,
well if you change your, mind, like please email. Me
so for those, listening, like she was given every opportunity to, clarify,
Right AND i asked her even simple questions like just, like,
hey what's your legal, name what is your? Fool what
is your full legal? Name are you still? Married like

(44:20):
just simple stuff like, that and she refused to answer.
Them and, so, yeah we, published.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
And those shouldn't be hard questions to. Answer that should
just there's no way that that's the thing that you're
nervous about telling people. About that's a weird thing to
not want to tell, people you, know.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
If you're a candidate running for, office and even if
you're working for a candidate and it's like your first
run in, politics because the first time you're a campaign
manager and the person you're working for is running For
congress and they don't want to give the media their
legal first name.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Or whether or their marital. Status you, know right, what there's.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Your ultimate red.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Flag either the flag couldn't be any redder or, larger right,
Like and she refused to answer any of.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
That so we published this.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Piece and you, know she she had a speaking engagement
that's actually going, on was supposed to go on, tomorrow
that was, canceled Right her campaign manager dropped her from her,
campaign and she goes and she puts out a statement and,
saying you, know, again it's a whole bunch of, nothing
and you, know if you're On, twitter you can go read.
It but essentially it's like crying about that she's still

(45:22):
the victim and she's still a victim of domestic, violence
that these are targeted, attacks and that she's all About
america first and all this, stuff and that she's going
to continue, campaigning and it's just it's a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Nonsense, Yeah and if anybody's listened this long and you're
still and you, KNOW i understand this is a long.
Story but For tony AND, i all of this happened
in less than a. Month someone asked me, Yesterday they're, like,
wow you must have spent a lot of time working
on this, story Or tony or. Whoever it's, LIKE I
i met this woman a couple of weeks ago On.
Twitter this all happened in a real short period of.
Time and one of the things she kept telling People

(45:52):
tony whenever she do a space or a public town
hall or, whatever Is i'm a mom and my son
AND i are so. Tight what we've been to and
over again by people close to her that her son
won't speak to, her he won't have anything to do with.
Her and as you AND i have been recording this,
PODCAST i get a notification on x from a user Named.

(46:13):
Lexicon lots of new people have come out of the
woodwork since this article was published someone NAMED i don't
know who lexicon, is and it, says here your. Story
she's sending this To Ava. Zolari your story is riddled
with lies and. Fabrications this person's directing it towards the,
candidate not. Us we know the. Truth your son knows the.

(46:33):
Truth you should be worried for him to share the real.
Story he wants nothing to do with. You that speaks
volume despite your. Efforts we're a. Family this is our.
Reality and then there's photos of all these people that
apparently hate, her including her. Son and isn't it amazing
that since this article was, published nobody's come out to defend,
her but more people have come out of the woodwork to,

(46:55):
SAY i, too am one of the people that was
screwed over by this, Woman, like, wow that is really.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Telling That's that's exactly What i'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Say, like she's had so many family, members or at
least a, family no actual multiple at this, point family
members come out against her, friends come out against her
former ex. Husbands not a SINGLE i have yet to
see a single person from her.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Past come out to defend this.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Woman, yeah AND i think that's another huge. Redfact this
lady is riddled with red. Flags and here's a sad,
part AND i do kind of want to start wrapping this.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Up, sure here's the sad. Part she's going to continue
running and she is raising money.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
And people will give her, money lonely older men that
are kind of like the kind of guys that she
supposedly purportedly praise.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Upon if you go to Her twitter and It's Ava
zolari FOR, tx so a v a z o l
a Ri i FOR, tx her account is.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Filled with old men that are, just.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
For lack of a better, words simping for, her lonely
lonely and they're just promoting her and they're just absolutely
in love with. Her and it's so funny, because like
it's been very, public made public what she actually looks. Like,
right she does not look like a profile picture by any.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Means.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
No in, FACT i very rarely will do What i'm.
ABOUT i don't think you should shame people for How
god made, them but this is a very ugly. Person
like she's just she's not in good. Shape she has
a lot of Bad she looks Like Jay leno in
the chin and like you, know Like i'm, sorry you're
a bad. Person you deserve for us to say this about.
You and for the, record, like you, KNOW i can
vote for an ugly, person BUT i can't vote for

(48:26):
a dishonest liar or a purported scammer or a con,
artist you know WHAT i?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Mean And, yeah and the here's what's so, Strange like
she's making public, appearances, right and you think that like
if your profile pictures so wildly different from the way
you look and you show up looking like how she looks,
like you don't think your base is gonna be, LIKE,
whoa what's going on?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Here? Right like it's just it's just. Strange.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah most of her SUPPORTERS i don't think even live
in district. Too they're just some guy In seattle that
follows her ON, x you know WHAT i. Mean, Yeah and.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
She's done a fantastic job of promoting. Herself i'll give her.
That like she has more followers than. Me she has
forty three Thousand twitter, Followers, Okay and she does this
thing WHICH i refer, To AND i don't think it's
unique in.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
THIS i think a lot of people refer. To it's
just it's just.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Slop she just produces, slop like pro right Wing Republican
america first.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Slop she repeats generic.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Talking points WITH ai photos and beats a drum that's pretty,
soulless and people retweet that or like it or engage with,
it and she gets a following and she's she's very
good at. That and so, yeah she's gonna run for,
office or she is running for, office and she's gonna
raise some. Money WHERE i think she may end up

(49:42):
in trouble, though is that she is going to have
to file AN fec, report, Okay and THE fec is
already not happy with. Her they sent a notice to.
Her they have problems with the way she filled out her.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Form isn't that? Amazing, like, yeah that's just one of the.
Things like And i'm told now that there are people
out there who who have nothing to do with this
story that work in law, enforcement AND i am told
that they've looked into this and they're very curious about her.
Past and SO i will tell you this to anybody
out there that, thought, oh this seems like a SCAMM
i could pull, OFF i could go understand that if
you splash around in the pool, enough someone's going to notice.

(50:13):
You and we, did AND i don't you, know ALL
i wanted was a good primary candidate For Dan. Crenshaw
and WHAT i ended up with was finding a very
suspicious person who encouraged people to be violent against, me
told PEOPLE i worked for the, cartels and THEN i
reached out to one of the most dangerous men in
political news in the state Of, texas And tony, wrote
WHAT i think is just it's just a funny article

(50:36):
to read if you're not one of her, victims and
if you, are it's. Tragic you, know you know what's.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Interesting and we were talking about this earlier over text like.
This we turned this around in what like forty eight.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Hours, yeah it didn't take.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Long, no from the minute you, know you helped connect
me with the right people and sent me some, documents
to doing, interviews to drafting the article to going live
was a total OF i think almost exactly forty eight.
Hours and that's one of the things THAT i think
that you AND i like we do so well THAT
i think mainstream media cannot do because there's so much

(51:10):
red tape for, them is we could turn around stories lightning,
fast and we did with, this AND i, HOPE i
hope that people see the article and if you're not
in the district or if you haven't been affected by
somebody Like ava Z, lari that at minimum it makes
you more cautious about who you support before giving them
money or promoting them on social.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Media because, yeah, Totally she's not.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Unique Inness.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
No and one of the other things That tony AND
i had the advantage of that a lot of people
don't is while we're not necessarily in corporate corporate media
LIKE i work For walton And JOHNSON. LLC i, Work
i'm an independent. Contractor tony's basically the same. Thing but
we do have access to, lawyers we do have access
to people in law, enforcement which makes us just a
little different than your average activist with A twitter account

(51:56):
because we know what we are allowed and not allowed to.
Do and also if things get dangerous or, scary we
have we have people we can call to protect. Us
and you, KNOW i just want to throw that out
there before this podcast at is BECAUSE i have no
idea what this woman isn't want to make it very.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Obvious and then avazlar is even listening and to any,
Anybody i'm still open and will always be open to
hearing her side of the. Story AND i even emailed.
HER i, said if you.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Want to hop on a podcast and talk about, this
let's do it.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
SAME i will absolutely platform whatever she has to say
if it's the, truth in order to give her side
of the.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Story and instead she blocked me On.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Twitter and she hasn't responded to me about anything else going.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Forward so that's it and and same. Thing remember how
this story. Started we've been talking for an hour. NOW
i Met ava AND i invited her on my radio
show and she, said, NO i want to have a
secret conversation with you to try to explain to you
why no one can know WHO i. Am, okay? Weirdo that,
fine protect your, identity but you can't run For congress
if we can't do background checks on. You people got

(52:57):
mad that they couldn't See Joe biden's health. Records do
you think we don't get to know your last name
while you run For? Congress you're asking us to give
you power and money and. Fame are you out of
your frickin? Mind she won't be the.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Last she's definitely not the. First she won't be the.
Last there will be many More Ava's, laris and she's
not gonna. Win here's what's gonna. Happen she's gonna raise some.
Money she will make some, purchases some campaign. Purchases you
can buy all sorts of things when you run for,
all you can buy a car with. Donations, okay she's
gonna make some big, purchases possibly if she gets enough.
Money AND i suspect that a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Maybe had but maybe.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Not maybe enough people read the article and they'll change their,
mind and enough people will obviously see Your twitter and
listen to your radio, show BECAUSE i know you've talked
about it on the.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Radio, YEAH i want to make. This you AND i
have explained so much in this podcast THAT i. WANT
i think that we need to distribute this to all
of our different. Channels so for those that don't, know
this podcast can be heard on The Current revolt. CHANNEL
i think we should also put it on The pursuit
Of happiness channel and The walton. Channel we have a,
smartphone a lot of our listeners on the radio on social,

(54:04):
media our podcast. Audience if you combined all the people
together that Follow, tony that follow, me that follow my radio,
show the SHOW i, produce it's hundreds of thousands of
people that know about this woman now and there are
other people out there like. This you, know people need
to learn that this is a thing people are gonna.
Do now That maga's, Popular now That maga is acceptable

(54:24):
in the, mainstream now that you can wear A maga
hat on main street without getting, attacked people are going
to come out and try to exploit its. Popularity this
is just one of the many grifters it.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Is it is so so that about WRAPS u, Up.
KENNY i appreciate you hopping. ON i, KNOW i THINK
i said this is going to be like twenty, minutes thirty.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Minute, yeah we said it was going to be, short
but once we, started there's just so. Much it's such
a weird. Story and, FRANKLY i don't want to have
anything to do with this woman. Anymore But, AVA i
know you're probably. Listening at the very, least you are
still invited on the.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Show, Yeah, eva if you're, listening or anybody associated with,
Her i'd love to talk to you On let's let's
do a, Podcast let's let's hash it outstead of blocking
me On, Twitter let's hash it.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Out but you, know here's WHAT i anticipate will.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Happen she will continue keeping her ai profile picture, open
she will continue generating fake profile pictures or pick pick
pictures on Her, twitter and when the time gets closer
to campaign, season she will beat the drum to raise
as much money as.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Possible and THEN i, suspect and this is just a,
PREDICTION i am predicting that before this primary season even,
Happens i'm just. Guessing and this is just a, Guest.
TONY i could be wrong that, someday before we really
even get into the, primary she's going to take all
the money she collected and skipped. Down, uh that's just a.
Prediction that's just a. PREDICTION i could be. Wrong but
when people act like, this it's very, suspicious you know

(55:47):
WHAT i, Mean.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It's very odd and the multi AND i assume she'll get.
IN i don't even know where the Names lauri comes.
From we were able to find out kind of where
these other names generate, from, Right Like ava comes from
her great grandmother who was Named, octavia who went By
ava because her legal, name her birth name Was kristen
And Oberg, like you don't Get ava from any of, That, No,

(56:12):
no she definitely pulled it from somewhere, Right.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
And some of these other names like Cower Ku are, like,
yeah it's almost like she made up An indian name
so she could marry An indian. Guy but we don't.
Know these are just. Guesses it just.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Seems LIKE i asked her about. IT i asked her
about her names and about The indian. Marriage is no,
response so we'll see what. Happens but we're up on
the hour. Now So, kenny thanks so much for spending
an hour of Your thursday night with. Me for all you,
listening thank You saints again for tuning. In I'm Tony
ortiz With Current.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Revolt CAN i just plug one thing before we? Leave
if you if you go To walton And johnson dot,
com you can find an affiliate. MAP i know a
lot of your listeners are Into texas. Politics i'm on
the radio every morning In Corpus Christy, Houston, Tyler. Texas
i'm on the radio In dallas For i'm on the
radio And texarcana and we have a big signal out Of,
Shreveport louisiana that reaches almost all Of East. Texas lots

(57:07):
of other affiliates, too and you may hear. It you,
Know i've used bits and pieces Of tony's interviews on that,
show so you will hear him on that show as
well or have in the.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Past and if you're listening to and you're On twitter OR,
x you definitely have.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
To Follow kenny ON. X he's got some great.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Content it's At it was At KENNETH. R webster ON
x and if you're not ON, x you should. Be
it's it's probably the only place where you can get
pretty much almost exclusively you, know free speech at.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
This and you may catch us scamming politician like we,
did you.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Know, yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Awesome, well thanks again for coming, By, kenny and thank
you all for. Listening we'll see you next time, sure
as y'all