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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Economic experts are predicting an energy crisis now that I
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for a freak off? Hi, everybody, I'm Kenny Webster. Thanks
for turning on your radio. Joining me this afternoon. Mike
Turmott is going to be here. He is the He
was the twenty twenty four Libertarian Party vice presidential candidate.
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He just became a Republican. He's going to be joining
us shortly. Stick around for that. Also here this afternoon,
Sarah McGee is a local liberal Democrat who wants to
become a lawmaker in the state and for some reason
she thought being a guest on this radio show would
help get her elected. I don't know what, but she's agreed.
She's agreed to come join me in studio. If you
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stick around until the bottom of the hour. A left
wing agitator will be here in the room with me
to discuss why she thinks Republicans are stupid and she
can make them vote for Democrats to stick around for that.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
She's going to be joining us in just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Before we get to any of that, can we talk
a little bit about what is happening in the world
right now. It's a lot of dark, dreariness surrounding us
in all directions. And I don't know what your religion is,
if you're a Christian or a Jew, or a Muslim,
or a Hindu or an atheist, but one one thing
is for sure, the wars inspired by theological beliefs have
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never been more abundant. Everybody knows what's going on in Iran,
in Israel and Yemen. You've heard all about that right now.
Did you know that Isis has just killed dozens of
Christians in Syria after attacking an Orthodox church. A Greek
Orthodox Church of Christians where attacked Sunday a terrorist open
fire and then detonated an explosive device while worshippers gathered
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for divine liturgy. The death toll has risen to twenty five.
People were praying safely under the eyes of God and
someone just came in open fire. There were three hundred
and fifty people praying at the church when a terrorist
showed up tried to kill everybody. Just disgusting, unbelievable. Sadly
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not the only place where this happened. As a matter
of fact, in Nigeria, recent massacre of an estimated two
hundred Nigerian Christians is sending shockwaves around the world. There's
a headline today from the Christian Broadcasting Network babies were burned.
A Muslim gunman massacred up to two hundred Christians in Nigeria.
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It's not making a lot of news here in the
United States. Oddly enough, Donald Trump actually stood up for
these people in the past. I don't know how many
people remember that. But at the time when this happened
years back twenty eight April thirtieth, Donald Trump said, We're
deeply concerned by religious violence in Nigeria, including the burning
of churches and the killing and persecution of Christians.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's a horrible story. Those are his exact words.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He was in the White House meeting with then President
of Nigeria Muhammadu Buhari. We need Trump to speak up
again the horrible violence against Christians in Central and Northern
Nigeria has gotten much worse. I was just reading this
report about it from Sean Nelson at the Daily Signal.
Two hundred Christians murdered in a massive, coordinated brutal attack
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by a group the Fulani Muslim militants in the Benu
State in Nigeria. The victims were men, children, babies. The
attackers set their victims on fire after killing them with
guns and machetes. Machetes party me. Many of these Christian
victims were already among the most dispossessed on Earth. They
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were internally displaced people already struggling to survive in terrible
conditions after fleeing years long violence directed at their communities
by these extremist nut jobs. Now we see it happening again.
Officials in Nigeria are downplaying what happened. When Trump spoke
up about this in twenty eighteen, at least thirty seven
hundred Christians in Nigeria were killed for their faith. Trump
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took decisive action, placing Nigeria on the list of worst
religious freedom violators in the world. And there's a report
from the Global Christian Relief Group suggesting that between November
twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, ninety eight hundred
Christians were targeted and killed by Boko Haram, another radicalized
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group of Islamic extremists. There. We need Trump to step
up and do something here. Stand up and speak out.
Marco Rubio, we need you. We need peace in Nigeria,
just like we need peace in Israel, just like we
need peace in Iran. The first American Pope, Pope Leo
the fourteenth, spoke immediately following last weekends attacks in Benu.
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Trump and Rubio speaking should send a clear message that
the United States is not turning.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
A blind eye to this sort of thing. I hope
they do.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
In the meantime, here in the Houston area, Texas Democrat
Representative Al Green filing articles of impeachment against Donald Trump.
Green accused Trump of failing to notify or seek authorization
from Congress because ordering the US military to launch strengths
on three Iranian nuclear sites on Saturday seem to really
upset leftists. So now Democrats are trying to impeach Donald Trump,
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and Trump has just utterly humiliated Al Green and Acasio
Alexandria Casio Cortes. Saturday on social media, AOC argued that
Trump's disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a
grave violation of the Constitution in congressional war power. She
said that on social media. Trump responded earlier today, pointing
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out AOC's obvious intellectual deficiencies and just demolishing her and
everybody that agreed with her. Trump says, quote, stupid AOC
Alexandria Casio Cortez, one of the dumbest people in Congress,
is now calling for my impeachment, despite the fact that
the crookeet and correct Democrats have already done that twice before.
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Trump pointed out that AOC is motivated by anger. The
president then turned his attention towards Jasmine Crockett, who apparently
has been unsuccessfully auditioning to become the next AOC. He
referred to her as a seriously low IQ individual. Oh,
you're probably wondering what about ilhan Omar. She got in
on some of the fun too. She found herself in
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Trump's crosshairs. He said, she does nothing but complain about
our country, Yet the failed country that she comes from
doesn't have a government.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He's talking about Somalia.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Samalia's drenched in crime and poverty, rated one of the
worst places in the world, yet for some reason she
thinks America is bad. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and
have to agree with Donald Trump on this one. If
you guys think it's so bad here, I gotta ask
why are you still here?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
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Speaker 3 (07:10):
This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
A new report claims that Mark Cuban was vetted to
be Kamala Harris's running mate. Could you imagine a Cuban
in the White House? Don't answer that, Bill Clinton. Hi,
I'm Kenny Webster. Thanks for getting connected with us. The
twenty twenty four presidential election feels like it was a
long time ago, and yet at the same time, it
also kind of feels like it was just yesterday. In
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a sense, both things are probably true. You may recall
having the choice between Donald Trump right, a right wing
populist somewhat liberal economic policies, and a full on communist.
That would have been Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know, Donald Trump not by.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Any means an Austrian economics enthusiast or a small government guy,
but probably more libertarian than say, Kamala Harris was right, certainly.
Now in that election, there were a few choices Kamala,
Donald Trump. There's also Jill Stein and Chase Oliver. Not
a lot of people remember Chase Oliver. People remember Gary Johnson,
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they remember Ron Paul right. But when you think about
the Libertarian Party in the last several years, things have
changed a bit. I think a lot of libertarians have
gravitated towards the Republican Party over the last several years.
Not because Donald Trump was a Libertarian, but because I
don't know. It's hard to explain it, you know, the
libertarian I'm a libertarian myself. I was a member of
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the party for a long time, back in my twenties,
and then in my thirties I became a little more pragmatic.
I think that's what happens to a lot of people.
You look at the Libertarian Party and other than what
is it, Kansas City is the correct me If I'm wrong,
I think the mayor of one major city, I think
it's Kansas City is a Libertarian. I don't have that
written down in front of me. I'm just I committed
that to memory. Other than that, I can't think of
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a lot of major elections that a Libertarian is won
in recent years. Still, if you're a fan of Milton
Friedman or Austrian economics, or you know, small government gun enthusiasts,
you might lean towards the Libertarian Party, thinking, well, the
Republicans have become too liberal, the Republicans have become too authoritarian,
and in doing so you basically supported a glorified book club.
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That's why a lot of people yours truly, for example,
have left the Republican Party over the last several years.
And it turns out even some of the leaders of
the Libertarian Party have left to join the Republican Party.
Now I'm not talking about Chase Oliver, but Mike Turmott
is an economics professor, and he was also the vice
presidential candidate for Chase Oliver.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Chase Oliver, I think was a very.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Unpopular person with Libertarians, with the Mesis Caucus for example,
if you're familiar with that is with what that is.
But Mike Turmott, an economics premiss professor, he was actually
quite well received by people in the Mesis Caucus or
the small government movement at any rate. The big news
this week from the Libertarian Party is that one of
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their most notable leaders. Mike is no longer a member
of the Libertarian Party. He has quit and he has
decided to become a Republican. We invited it on the
show today so we could find out why, and it
turns out he took the invitation. So Mike, thanks for
joining us this afternoon. How you doing, sir, I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
It's absolutely a pleasure to be with you. And by
the way, the mayor of Wichita, that's what it was
is Yeah, you're so close. No cigar, as Bill Clinton
might say, but you are very, very close, Mike. Lily
Wu is her name, She's terrific.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I knew it was something. I knew.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It was one of those cities in the middle of
the country that we don't visit much. But yeah, I
guess that Wichita. They don't even have a football team,
do they.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Not that I know of, but I'm sure Lily Wu
does and maybe we can negotiate with her to get
one there.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
All right, Mike, let's start off with this a little
on your background. You're an economics professor. I named my
dog Milton Friedman, and I love I'm a big fan
of Javier Malay, the leader of Argentina. He also named
his dog after Milton Friedman, Which famous economics economists?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Did you name your dog after?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
My dog's name is blue. He was named after his
collar because I could not settle the debate inside my family,
so he was known as the dog with the blue collar,
and it became blue for short. So you know, I
can't actually assume the mantle of being as good at
naming pets as you are. But if I were to
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name my dog over again, it might be Thomas Soul,
because Thomas is still alive, of course, and I would argue,
as Milton Friedman's acolyte, Thomas is our nation's greatest living economists.
He's made huge contributions to the economics literature as well
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as to popular jargon in economics.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It is ironic that you couldn't come up with the
You couldn't decide who to name the dog after with
your family members.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You being a libertarian.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The Libertarian party is I think the only political party
where it is actually a party rule that none of
the above must be listed as an option every time
you guys vote on something, I mean your former party,
that is to say, because sometimes libertarians don't like any
of the candidates, So it is possible in a libertarian
election for nobody to win.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
It is possible, And indeed, I think that's why Blue's
name is blue, because none of the names carried the day,
and it does have You know, you pointed out that
it was a contentious decision for Chase to be our nominee. Well,
first of all, I think it's important to mention he
did get more than fifty percent of the vote, so
he wasn't that unpopular, right. He did get more votes
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than everybody else, He got more votes than none of
the above. He got more votes than I did, right,
So I have every reason to remember that he wasn't
all that unpopular, And I thought he did a pretty
good job of during the campaign representing the party and
as best he could represent all of the party, notwithstanding
the contentiousness. But our party has been in trouble the
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past few years for a variety of reasons, not the
least of which is the internal in fighting over small,
relatively small policy differences, and that has rendered the party
relatively incapable of raising money and supporting candidates the way
that we wish it could.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
All Right, I will tell you I don't love what's
going on right now with Iran and israel I. Actually,
I enjoyed the fact that Donald Trump came out today
and he was very critical of Israel, just as he
was critical of Iran, and both of them are not
adhering to the rules of the ceasefire. But one of
the reasons why I say all that, to make this point,
one of the reasons I left the Libertarian Party and
started supporting the Republicans wasn't because Donald Trump's a libertarian.
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He certainly isn't, but his advocacy for free speech and
gun rights and anti war, at least that's what we
sort of thought of the time. Where do you stand
all that? On all that, why did you leave the
Libertarian Party? Now, of all days to quit?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I joined the Republican Liberty Caucus, which is the libertarian
minded elements of the Republican Party. It was started by
libertarians out where you are in Texas. We have a
terrific chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus. If there's anyone
in Texas who can hear my voice, you ought to
reach out and become a member. We have terrific leadership
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and terrific membership in that organization. And so that created
a great opportunity in the leadership of the Republican Liberty
Caucus at the national level as well as the state level,
has been extremely welcoming toward me and toward my campaign team.
Remember that we're joining with approximately fifty other people, about
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half of which are coming along with me from the
Libertarian Party. These are, in no small part, folks that
helped on the presidential election campaign last year, and then
a bunch of Republicans who are not new to the
Republican Party but are new to the Republican Liberty Caucus.
And an answer to your question, the reason now is
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not only because we have lost a little bit of
faith in the Libertarian Party's ability to get things done
going forward, but all because we think that there is
appropriately a sense of urgency about what it is that
we need our government to do and not do. When
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President Trump leaves office in I guess it's you know,
just just three years from now, right when he leaves office,
that's going to leave a political vacuum the likes of
which we have not seen before. However you feel about
President Trump, you have to admit that he is a
unique political force and inside the Republican Party. Therefore, there's
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going to be a major battle to determine the future
of the party. And we believe that the future of
the republic Party is most of the future of American politics.
I think it would be hard to argue, for example,
that the Democratic Party is going to play a major
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leading role in fostering the kind of intellectual debate that
we need to have in this country. I think the
Democratic Party will eventually capture the White House again, but
I seriously doubt that they're going to be at the
forefront of intellectual debate to do it. And I think
that you also have to admit that independent movements are
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at least as difficult as we ever thought that they were. Right.
What we learned last year is your name can be
Kennedy and you can have one hundred million dollars and
it's still hard. So the Republican Party is where the
game is going to be played. And we believe that
President Trump has libertarian leanings. I believe he gets bad
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staff work, and I believe that there's going to be
a food fight to decide how to replace him.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I would agree with most of that.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I might have explained it a little differently, But there's
nothing you said that I fervently disagree with.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
You know, you're you're an Austrian economics professor, You're you're
a small government advocate, You're a textbook libertarian. Is there
any libertarian policies or positions you don't agree with?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yikes?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I don't think so. It depends on your taxonomy of that.
You know, it depends on what you call libertarian policy.
Most libertarians, but certainly not all, recognize that we need
to have some control over the border. I think most
America that's.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Where I was going to go. Yeah, I would agree
with that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I figured, yeah, I always figure there's this old trope
that libertarians are for open borders, and I feel like
that's anarchy. You that's not liberty, that's you know, if
you don't have immigration laws, you don't have a country.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Well, in no small part that is a little bit true.
And I think that the debate is over what those
controls look like, how easy or difficult it should be
to come into the United States legally. And the next
debate is, you know, how do you handle deportations. Being
a nation of laws, we recognize that if you're here illegally,
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the law says that you've got to be deported. How
that has managed matters. As libertarians, we always stand up
for due process. I don't think that there should be
much of an argument about that fact, but there is
an argument to be had in a variety of different
cases about what due process is right, what it should be,
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how much due process is required. So you know that
ranges from if you've already been adjudicated a criminal. I
think you've had enough due process for me personally, that's plenty.
It's time for you to go. But after that, there's
all kinds of gray areas.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, there certainly is.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Mike Turmott, we went a little long on this interview,
but you are an interesting person. When I heard you
were joining the Republican Party, I was excited to get
you on. They say that the libertarian ideology makes up
about ten percent of the Republican Party voters. I don't
know quite where we stand on that at the moment.
I've just seen polling data in the past that said that,
and there's a lot of people that would probably agree
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with most of your positions in the party. We're the
political party that freed the slaves, we're the political party
that defends free speech and gun rights, and I think
most people probably welcome you with open arms.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So welcome to the GOP brother.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
From your lips to God's ears, it's a joy to
be with you. I look forward to staying in touch.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Hey, find Mike Turmott on social media.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He spells his last name ter spacemaat like that. It's
unusual spelling based on how it's pronounced. But I'll post
a link to his X account on my X account
and you guys could follow him from there.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Hey, quick break, Speaking of people.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That some of you might not be ideologically are aligned
with by party lines. Coming up in a little bit,
Sarah McGee is a Democrat who I think she can
flip Republican voters here in the Houston area. She is
running for state legislators. Stick around, she's coming up next.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
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All right? We're connected? Are we on? We are on?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Rest in peace to Fred Smith, the FedEx founder. Fred
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If you're listening to us live on the radio, we
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We are live streaming today on social media, and I
have a special guest in studio, somebody that is not
normally here. I often invite people that don't agree with
us ideologically on the show, liberals, communists, pinkos, authoritarians, socialist,
neo cons. Very rarely do they take the invitation. Almost never,
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as a matter of fact. One person who did take
the invitation is Texas lawmaker oh Well, Texas House of
Representatives District one thirty two primary candidate Sarah McGhee, who
is very well known to some of our listeners on
x AS. You are frequently on and I invited you
on the show, and you accepted the invitation I did.
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How does it feel to be here in the uh
You're in the den of Republicanism right now.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
No, it's good. It's good.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
I live in the Den of Republicanism, so this is
almost like home to me.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You are running for office right now against Mike's showfield
I'll be honest with that. I don't know a lot
about Mike is any kind of a you know, he's
a sort of a right of center, kind of wishy,
washy Republican.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I don't know a lot about the guy.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh, he's he's far right.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You think he's on the far right.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah, he's all right. And actually, to be honest, not
many people know much about him. He's pretty quiet.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
He doesn't he doesn't post on X, hasn't posted an
over year in turned on his Facebook page, and it's
just a picture of him shaking hands at different events.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And he's not real politically active now. To be fair,
he won his district this last time around by about
twenty points, almost twenty points, eighteen points. The time before
that again, roughly nineteen points in a victory. There.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Let's see the.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Time before that a little closer. He beat Gina cal
Kalani by only a few points. But for the last
few years he's been crushing it. And then he was
in office, he left office, he came back to office.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Am I understanding this correctly?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
He's been around for a while.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
There was a brief go there where he left office
and then he came back and that's I would say
most of the time, if not for a little blip
on the radar, this has been a deep red district.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But you describe it as a purple district, I do.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
And the reason I say that is because the last
time that my district flipped, he didn't leave office.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
He was elected out of he was yes, he was
on election.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
The last time my district flipped was during the midterms
of Trump's first term.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
What did Gina do? What did Gina do to get
rid of him? And then why did he come back?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
So basically exactly the same thing I'm doing, which is
just I decided I was going to run for office
shortly after the election, and I knew that I wasn't
going to have because to earn his seatback, he spent
one point eight million dollars on a state house race,
which is pretty incredible because usually they run around one
hundred grand. So I made the decision that in order
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to beat that, I was going to be everywhere, meet everyone,
have face to face conversations. I am out in my
community every single day. And that's the same thing Gina did.
She knocked on over ten thousand doors and just had
face to face conversations with people.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
She went door to door. But you're very active on
social media.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
I am, I am, and that's an element to it.
But it's crazy because ninety percent of the people that
I meet out in the community don't have Twitter.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Does that work? Do you think that being on Twitter helps?
Because you see there's this scam. Now I don't know
if it's a scam. It's a grift where people are
pretending to run for off Oh yeah, but they're not
running for office. Yeah, they're running for social media followers. Yeah,
but I mean it's true.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Well absolutely yeah, And there's a reason why.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
And it's in my highlights And it was pinned for
a while a post where I posted all of the
pictures from all of the events that I've done, because
that's the craziest thing. Like I made this decision and
I was like, okay, running for office. You know, followed
my favorite work at the state, set up all my socials,
set up my website, you know, the things that you
have to do for office. My Twitter will say that
it was set up in twenty twenty three, but it
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was really just like my alt account that I would
use to look at people who had blocked me before, but.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Like you do.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
And so it was like December when I actually started
using that account and I had five followers, okay, and
I just yeah, so I am absolutely running for office.
The Twitter blow up has been completely unexpected and now
it's just kind of a fun thing.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
What's the blow up? What is it? How is it?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
What's because I'm just saying the things that a lot
of people are thinking, like, if we're being completely honest,
you know, I'm not I'm not far left.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I mean, I'm looking at your tweets here, hang on,
let's let's put one up on the screen.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So you've got to get Republicans to vote for you,
and hang on, I want people to look at what
we're looking at here, and yes and yes, true.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, no, I said it. I'll stand by that honestly.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yesterday, Jasmine Crockett, who's considered to be one of the
most extremest left wing politicians in America, said that what
is that that our Republicans were complicit in endangering the
lives of American troops. I'm just I'm a I'm shortening
your tweet here, And then you said every Republican in
this country is complicit. Now you're gonna need to get
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you know, a lot of Republicans to vote for you.
Do you think it's kind of like when Hillary called
every Republican deplorable?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Is that? Do you think that works well for you?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I will tell you why.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
I don't have a problem saying things like that, and
if it if that pops up.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Because I have I have one thing. I don't have handlers.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Every single word and every single letter that you see
on that Twitter account comes directly for me.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Nobody runs my account.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I have one filter and one filter only, and it
is before I hit send, I'm like, how would this
look in an attack?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Adky?
Speaker 7 (26:08):
So that actually did run through my head. But I
don't think and I think this is something that's being
taken for granted so far as I don't think people
understand how many Republicans are.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Done so done.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
I have more Republicans in my DMS on Twitter than
I do Democrat by far, it's like four to one.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, let's look at the map real quick.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Okay, so this is where you're running right hold on,
let me get this on the screen here. I just
want everybody to see this. For those that don't know
where District one thirty two is. We're talking about Grimes,
if I'm not mistaken, Cyprus we are talking about.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
It's almost it's exclusively Harris.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
And then at Waller, Yeah, yeah, not Grimes Waller, Waller
County home to Kenny Allen, home to the Great Waller
County meth lab explosion of nineteen ninety two, Hockily, when
you drive out to this part of the state, do
you feel like these are people that are done with
the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I mean, I will tell you.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And this is why, this is why I'm following the
strategy of talking to as many But you have any
idea how many times I hear the I'm a Republican,
but I would vote for you. How often you hear
that every single time I have a conversation with Republicans.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Is it possible they're messing with you?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Now?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
So I'll tell you why this is. And this is like,
this is what's going on in Texas, right. We have
this crazy phenomenon in Texas where we tend to focus
only on national politics and people look at you know, wars,
no wars, immigration, tax rates, you know, all of the things,
and so people will lean, you know, on the Republican side,
and then they think that they have to vote up
and down ballot that way, and then you bring it
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back to a state level, people don't like Depending on
the poll that you look at, between seventy five and
eighty five percent of people think that.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Our abortion laws are too restrictive.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Okay, sixty five percent of people think that marijuana should
be legalized for recreational use.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, then they're going to love what the governor just did.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
I know, but it's not yet.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
But sixty five percent of people think that we should
have some sort of access to sports betting, like whether
it's online sports betting or you know, actual casinos. Sixty
five percent of people did not want school vouchers, and
so you just go down the list and down the
list and down the Listen, we're.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Talking about sixty five percent of Texans.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Orixon's sixty five percent of Texans. And so that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
So when I have conversations with these people and I'm like,
you know, vote however you want at the national level.
But when we're looking at the state level, these people
have they've lost the plot.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
They're working for their donors.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
You're not running for statewide office. You're running in district,
you're running in walt where people aren't going to be
spending most of their time at church or you know,
on a farm.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
So it's not Waller and I grew up so it's Katie.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I mean it is Waller. We just looked at the map.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
It's like a section of Waller.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But the most that's Waller right there. I mean that
that's it.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
That's the tip of it.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
But the like seventy five percent of my district, it
falls into Harris County.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, So I have came. We're not talking about like
the heights. We're talking about Katie Tech where, yeah, where
people are looking for a deal at Katie Mills Mall.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
But let me tell you the situation with Katie because
I grew up in Katie. Because that's that's why I'm
particularly like, okay energetic about this district is I've lived
in this district for forty one years.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
I grew up in Katie. I went to Katie High School.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
And so when I'm talking the home of Friday night
Lights did not want vouchers. I have talked to person
after person after person after person that will be switching
their vote for that in that alone, and I have
so I have half Katie and half side there as
I want.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
To talk about school choice.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Why is it that every leader in your party, particularly
Black Democrats a decade fifteen years ago, loved school choice,
and then the Randy Winegarden, the leader of the teachers Union,
got involved. You guys neglected to tell anybody she was
a leader in the DNC for what a decade just
recently stepped down.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Mysteriously. We all sat through the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We watched Randy Winegarden and the Democrat Party advocate to
close the schools. Yeah, for sure, kids in front of
computer screens. The reason why people suddenly like the school
choice movement, which you say they don't like, but overwhelmingly
seems to be popular with my listeners, who by the way,
live in the place that we just looked at on
that map, liked school choice is because of what I
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just described. They didn't want their kids sitting alone in
a room staring at a computer screen. Ten fifteen years ago,
Sila Jackson, Lee al Green, who's now trying to impeach
the president, the late Sylvester Turner, they all liked school
choice and then they suddenly changed their Mindhy why what happened?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Because it sounded like a good idea. It sounded like
a good.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Idea until you find out what actually is, what it
is actually comprised of.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
And then how do we know what it's comprised of?
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Because we're not the first, Like anything, Texas is usually
the loss to do a lot of things. And so
you've seen how it's been implemented in the I mean
exactly states, So like Arizona, like eighty five percent of
the people that are utilizing the school voucher system in
Arizona were already enrolled in private school.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
It's not helping the people that it's supposed to help.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, how do you know that's anecdotal, That doesn't mean
any of it anectal. So somebody's middle class family and
they're dipping into their annual or their monthly salary and
they're saying, I could barely.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Afford private school. But the public schools here are so terrible.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, with drag, queen story hour people coming to school
and I mean name.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
One place, see, And that's that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
And this is where face to face conversations are so
important in this election. There is not a single school
in District one thirty two that has drag Queen Story Hour.
So that's not relevant for the people that are going
to vote for me.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, but that's because we outlaweded here in the state.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Right, So why are we still talking about it?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Because there are people that don't want, you know, a
devout communist educating their children. There are people that look
at the public schools and they say, hey, I want
something that's more catered to what my kids want. I
want my child to be around people who have to
share my beliefs.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
So so what their parents want.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yes, what their parents want? Yes, well, yes, exactly, Yes,
it's parents. I mean, Sarah, A seven year old doesn't
know what they want, right. A seven year old wants
skittles for dinner?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Do you think that's a good idea to give them that?
Or do you think that we should let them eet
whatever they want?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Devents every once and while?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That depends what you mean?
Speaker 6 (32:02):
That dinner is okay? Little All right?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Hang on a second.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
You're listening to Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness. Please, if
you're offended by anything you heard, to get a piece
of paper, write down a detailed description of what bothered
you and facts it to one eight eight eight. Nobody
gives a all right.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
People are pretty mad about this.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
A report claimed that Ice agents were turned away from
Dodgers Stadium by the team because apparently no team wants
an all white infield. I can't think of another reason.
You know what else is funny about that? Apparently it
never even happened. Tom Holman came out said it wasn't real.
You know, there's a lot in this world that's not real.
I've just been told by my guests standing in front
of me that most of you watching me on social media,
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people that live in District one point thirty two don't
actually want school choice, which I am surprised to hear
you say that, Sarah McGee, she is a Democrat primary candidate,
because we just had an election last year and which
a lot of people that were against school choice got
primaried out. They did, and this was the number one
topic that people were discussing. But now you claim, because
appolling data, that they don't actually want the thing that
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they all just voted for. And I gotta ask, how
do you know?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Absolutely, And so if you go and look back at
what the primary candidates actually ran on. They ran on
border security and immigration and property taxes.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
They gotta disagree with you I mentioned.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
So if you go look at Glenn Rodgers's race, Glen
Rodgers is one of the Republicans that lost his seat.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Sarah, you're on a radio show right now where all
these candidates called in and talked about their support for
school choice. Yeah, in front of listeners who called in
and asked questions about were.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Those people just hallucinating? Were they on mar see? We
all remember last year? Did it not really?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Have they sat in the chair you're sitting in right
now and talked about it that did that not actually happen? Now?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Asked to see the mailers that went off to all
the primary voters.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Okay, but on this talk radio show and on social media,
and that's what we discussed. Yeah, something happen showing up
in your mail that discussed immigration. Wasn't the sum total
of the election, was it?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
No?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
It wasn't.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
But that's that was the fear mongering talking point that
was working law cycle.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
So that's what they went with.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Okay, that was what was the fear monger.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Ask a single, ask a single.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
What was the school choice or the immigration.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
There immigration Like you live in a.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
City where Joscelyn Nungary got raped to death under a
bridge by two illegal immigrants, and now we're naming an
animal preserve after or that's correct?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Did that not happen?
Speaker 6 (34:30):
No, that absolutely happened. It was an absolute tragedy.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Okay, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
I hate that the conversation goes to because of this
one person was killed by an immigrant, let's ignore all
of the other women that are raped and murdered every year,
like we never talk about them, which is very unfortunate,
but that.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Doesn't but that doesn't stop this from happening. Between last
year and right now. Have you seen how much the
murder aid has gone down? It has dropped X men
like double quad a double point, Like we're talking ten
twenty percentage points in some parts of the country. And
they attribute that to exporting illegal immigrants that were involved
in organized crime.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Do you think that wasn't happening?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
So, do you have immigration numbers because they've not been
made publicly available immigrations since February.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Pertaining to what to deportations, You don't think that we're
deporting criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I don't not at the numbers that we were under
Joe Biden. I don't you think, I'm I absolutely don't, Sarah.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
This is amazing to me. I just want to repeat
what you just said.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Kenny. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Hang on, let me drive there.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You think you think that Joe Biden was deporting more
illegal immigrants than Donald Trump?
Speaker 7 (35:42):
I absolutely and I will tell you why. I will
tell you why. Do I think that Donald Trump is
detaining more people? Yes, detaining, yes, deporting?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
No, you don't think he's deporting more people.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
No, he's detaining more people.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And what are you based on this story?
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Well, a few things.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
If you look at the bill that they're trying to
pass through Congress, the detention budget has gone from six
billion dollars a year to forty five billion dollars a year.
And then look at the private prison donors that Donald
Trump has been collecting from. They're opening all of these
private detention centers, and they're funneling government money into these
private prisons, okay, and holding them there indefinitely.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Would you have a problem when we were doing that
with the NGOs doing what taking private money and giving
it to public money and giving it to private organization.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Well, I mean it depends on what your beliefs are,
because those are also NGOs.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Landing out Kamala Harris's book and Caprice Sons and Lunchable's
daily legal immigrants at the border. I mean that's just humanitarian,
humanitarian to give them a free coffee of Kamala Harris's book.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
I mean, okay, but Caprice Sons and Lunchibles like you're
gonna wrap it all up like I d.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And corn syrup is very bad for their health.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Sarah, I'm pretty sure is starving kid that just walked
across the desert is happy to have a capriced in a.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Don't you hate?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Don't you think it's market turning than a child just
walked across the desert alone. I mean that's terrifying, right,
It is terrifying, and so we're helping about. I mean,
if a child, it's unaccompanied minors is what we call generally,
they're being trafficked by somebody. So now you you say
you're an Extrapublican, and now you're joining a political party
that advocated for that system. No, and you're gonna flip
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a red district.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Okay, here's the problem. Here's the problem with immigration.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Nobody allows this conversation to have any sort of nuance whatsoever.
It's either open borders or don't allow anyone.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
No, I'm for I'm for immigration. I love it, I
love I love immigrant.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
Nobody has ever had the conversation about why are immigration
numbers jump so high?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
To begin with, the President and the Vice president are
both married to immigrants.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Do you think Republicans or no? They are.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
I know, sure they are, But that's not why.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You said no to me. Are you just did you?
Are you conditioned to just disagree with me? I just
told you something you knew to be true.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
No, no, No, I wasn't disagreeing with you. You just
disagree with me.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You did disagree with these eras I said the President.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
I wasn't saying no in a way like I was
disagreeing with you. I was like, no, but we're still
not talking about like that's what I was going out
with that.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
I wasn't saying no, you're wrong, like I know the immigrants.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But we want immigrants both most peopleants and we want
legal immigrants.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
And we still won't talk about why immigration went up
in the first place.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
What, okay, why did immigration got.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
So COVID destroyed the world obviously for different you know,
for different reasons, and we can blame it on whoever.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
And you know.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
What would we blame it on?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
What?
Speaker 6 (38:29):
What would we blame COVID on?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah? What caused the pandemic? Oh?
Speaker 7 (38:33):
I mean, I guess the most recent data said that
there was a lab week from lableek from China.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Okay, we agree on that. Okay, I mean moving forward.
So COVID, so COVID.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
So, COVID destroyed the world.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
It destroyed supply changes, it destroyed you know, economies, especially
economies that were in the you know, countries that were
to the most.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
You know that we share borders with Okay, and.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Then America recovered faster than any other developed nation in
the world. So when you have countries accord data to well,
I mean any data that you can.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, if you watch CNN and MSNBC, they all
overwhelmingly said that America was handling the pandemic the worst,
that we were.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
We had that business.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Well, yeah, until we passed the Inflation Reduction Act, until
we passed.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
The Do you think the Inflation Reduction Act saved us
from COVID?
Speaker 7 (39:16):
I don't think it's saved to st COVID, But I
think it helped our economy recover faster nation.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
How did it do that?
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Because it invested in our economy, it started creating jobs
that started helping started to.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Help, you know, getting people back to work.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Tell me someone who got a job because of the
inflation reduction.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Finished my thoughts before we know, let me finish my
thought before we jump to the next one. Okay, I'm
just talking to have an economy when unemployment is dropping
faster than any other nation in the world, and you
can look at that, you can actually look that up
and verify it. And you have nations that border you
that are sitting at thirty to forty percent unemployment and
still haven't recovered from from the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Probably because they didn't end the lockdowns.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
People were desperate for jobs. They're just trying to feed
their families, so yeah, they're going to look for someone.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Did you say the real reason why we probably recovered
from the pandemic is because we opened up our economy
in Red States, while in Europe and Australia they kept
it locked down. The very things that you're talking about
are things that liberals wanted, right They wanted the economy
to remain closed, and then when we opened up, well,
of course they did. Then why did Australia close their economy?
Why did Chicago and Los Angeles and New York wait
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until two years after the pandemic was pretty much over
to finally say, okay, you can go to bars again.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Yeah, but if we wanted that, why didn't we do
it when Joe Biden was inaugurated?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh do what?
Speaker 6 (40:28):
We didn't close the economy back down.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
When Joe Biden was inaugurated, the Blue States were all closed,
the Red States were all open, and we saw that
the economy in the Red States was recovering vastly. Fat
If you're talking about what part of the American economy
recover the hang on, Sarah, If you're talking about what
part of the American economy recovered the fastest during the pandemic,
it was Florida, it was Texas, It wasn't California, it
wasn't New York, it wasn't Illinois. Weirdly enough, the Inflation
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Reduction Act benefited the Red States the most, Sarah, Come on.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I know, but here and here, and I'm so glad
you said that. I'm so glad you said that, because
that is the difference between Democrats and Republicans is you
value money and I value lives.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Because more people.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Died there, people died in the Red States than in
the Blue states.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
They did, Yes, they did.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
They absolutely did. No look at the people who Okay,
this is where this is where we're getting off the mark.
I work at a hospital, so I mean I was
in the thick of it, So you can tell me
that COVID was a hoax and it didn't this and
then that when you have a truck outside that you're
having a stock you know, bodies and a refrigerated truck, like,
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it's going to be kind of hard to sell the
conspiracy theories with somebody that was actually in the thick
of it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
So, okay, well, let's look at it. Number of COVID
deaths in California. Let's see number. Let's I'm just looking.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
We'll go per capita.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Number to be to be okay, well, in that case,
so we're going to compare it to what like, uh,
let's compare it to Florida per capita, because Texas is
a red state but it's.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
On the border. Would you agree that that probably affected
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
I don't have that. I mean, I'm not going to speculate.
I don't have the data in front of me.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You don't think that us being on the border may
have had some effect on our COVID infection rate. We
had people walking over the border, unvaccinated, unvetted, not being
screened for COVID, just walking over.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
You don't think that affected us at all?
Speaker 7 (42:17):
See that you say that, And then you have Riley
Gaines who's complaining that her husband can't get immigration status
because he refuses the COVID vaccine, which basically proves that
they're they're you know, one of the stipulations to becoming
an immigrant is having a COVID vaccine.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I don't know anything about Riley Gaines's husband. I don't
know anything about it.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Well, that's her, that's her issue with.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
COVID death rate per capita.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Let's say California, okay, where you say it's pretty low, right,
and then we'll put in the same thing for Florida
per capita. COVID death rate per capita Florida, Okay, this
is I'm hey, I I'm sure you're probably right about this.
You're a medical professional, but i'd like to look it
up here. Let's see two hundred and eighty one deaths
per one hundred thousand in California, and it's still calculating
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it on Florida.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I don't know while we're waiting for the computer.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Okay, but the point you're getting at is it had
nothing to do with the fact that red states opened
up sooner. It had everything to do with the Inflation
Reduction Act.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
No, no, no, that's that's honestly, that's that's not but that
is what you said. I mean it is. I'd said
the Inflation Reduction Act helped. Okay, but you know another thing.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
That's disappointing is that we have drifted this conversation to
relitigating COVID when I'm running for like a state house
seat in one point thirty two, and then.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
You brought up COVID.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
You know I you brought I didn't.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Bring it up.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
Well, we were we were talking about why immigration got
so bad so we can debate on what made our
economy great.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
And it was COVID.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
You say, anyway, it wasn't bad before twenty nineteen. The
immigration wasn't an issue.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
That I mean, that's it stayed pretty consistent over the years,
it stayed pretty consistent.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
During the Trump years it went down right, and then
during the Biden years, we opened up the border and
it shot up.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
You don't think that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
Okay. See, here's whe the pandering comes in.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
Though, because you you can go back to live streams
of the Texas Legislature in twenty nineteen where they're sitting
on the floor discussing how bad the border crisis is
in Texas. At the border, Briscokine was one of the
guys that was in or not that hearing.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Let's call him, Call Brisco. Let's call Brisco. All right,
I'll tell you what. If you're watching us on social media,
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Sadly enough, but we're running out of time on the radio.
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